Good OC spray and a good flashlight are a far better self defense combination than many people realize. I fall back to your "it's something in between a harsh word and a gun" quote all the time. So I buy two six packs of POM OC spray every Christmas to give as gifts. That way people don't need to remember to buy new spray every year. I do it for them.
I think you covered just about everything. From an LE background, I would add consider your environment when using pepper spray. If out doors, which way is the wind blowing,; you don’t want to have the spray blowing back into your face. Secondly, if used indoors, even with a stream, there can be a residual mist of the spray that can affect you in addition to the bad guy. Finally, pepper spray may not work on people under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or are in mental health crisis. Food for thought when considering deploying pepper spray. My experience was with a weaker pepper spray that really wasn’t all that effective. People were able to fight through it. When we switched to Saber Red, it was quite effective. But it affected us cops too if we walked into that “wall” of residual mist. It can be an effective tool to give you time to get away from the situation.
Spray entire can. Then carefully walk backwards. Sabre red and fox labs are the best pepper sprays on the market only losing to giant 10 inch cans of bear spray
Lucky Gunner has an excellent video on pepper spray testing to augment Ms. A&S's fine look at the subject. I carry a POM spray in the pocket, and a Sabre or Fox Labs when wearing a jacket.
I also carry the POM and add a glued zip-tie over that kinda small finger guard. This reminds me that mine are 2yrs old now should probably replace them.
OC freaking SUUUUUCKS to get hit by. I've experienced it once so far when getting certified with it and whew it was some of the worst pain of my life. Had to force my eyes open with my hands to see where I was going. Definitely a defense option worthy of consideration.
@@JonCampo91what did you get sprayed with. I'm a LE training instructor and I've never seen anyone not affected assuming it was deployed properly. I have seen individuals not affected much by weaker sprays but never the higher capsaicin sprays.
@@HAMMERHEAD-g3hOC resistance is a thing, in the MP corps we had a few people who had almost no effect on it. We were all like “bro you F-in suck” lmao
One more positive thing to add is that it's a range tool, unlike fists, batons, knives, etc. Granted the range is small, but still it allows you to stay 5-7-10 feet away from the threat.
Hi Tessah, I just wanted to comment and say that I've appreciated your videos a lot because of their clear, concise (sometimes very concise) explanations with very helpful visuals to back them up. I recently decided to take the step from an off-the-rack FOMI clip holster to a custom piece that carries the pistol/light combo that I've wanted for a while. Your tips about and demonstrations of carry styles, belt clips, and more have been indispensable. Do you think that some time you could make a video about why you choose to own guns and why you concealed carry? I think that a lot of people who are a bit confused about or made nervous by guns would really appreciate hearing what in your philosophy and/or worldview led you to do so because you present things in a calm, logical way without a tough guy routine or fluff. More people need to hear why kind, calm, normal people are involved with guns and therefore make informed decisions. Thank you, stay armed, stay styled!
POM is part of my EDC. I walk in the neighborhood every day and keep it in my hand when dogs are around. I've nearly used it three times. I would never shoot a dog unless it was biting me or maybe if it were something like a pit bull lunging at me.
I love walks by the river where I live. There are paved paths and lots of super cute pups to meet, along with geese and ducks. I always carry my pepper spray when walking. Whether dog, human or fowl, I think I'm prepared for any "unwanted attention"...lol. POM is wonderful!!!
I always carry 2 on me. Strong side and support side. Because of our incredibly uninformed lawmakers size restrictions are put on the canisters. Therefore in a real situation with multiple attackers or a missed shot having more than one is a good idea. I also us POM. It is a great product and their customer service is top notch.
Nice video 👌 I carry oc on and off duty, lots of people don't think about it but a person may have combat skills but oc will help to minimize contact (you never know what that person may have on them) with whomever they encounter. Its good to have the fighting skills but id rather oc them than to have to have physical contact if i have the choice. I've never had to deply it and hopefully I'll never have to. 👍
If you don't know those yet, you might want to take a look at the Piexon Guardian Angel, it is a two-shot pepper spray device that uses small explosive charges to propel a really thick spray. Good thing is it can be safely used against the wind and has plenty enough pressure to push the liquid right through the fabric of a ski mask, around large sunglasses and so on. The stuff will shoot straight up somebodies nose when hit in the face, even with eyes firmly closed it will make direct contact with the eyeball, effects are pretty much immediate, very nasty stuff. You only have two uses, but I consider this an advantage as I can shoot off both charges rendering the device inert, ready to be dropped to quickly free my hands without the possibility to be picked up and used against me.
YES YES YES!!! Pepper spray (I prefer gel) is the *most underrated* but also the *most useful* self-defense tool! Mine has already saved my bacon once heh. The gel I use was effective even though the dude (who was wearing glasses) was a split second from being on top of me with his aggression so I'm gonna press X to Doubt on the claim that they don't work as quickly ... Personally, I feel that *every* good person should carry at least one non-lethal option and one lethal option for self-defense :)
The problem with "less lethal" forms of self-defense is that if you are surprised, it's not always possible to determine the actual threat level of a potential attacker, and if you guess wrong, not only will there very likely be no time to change your mind, failure to meet an attack with potentially lethal force could prove fatal for you. Self-defense scenarios play out in much less time than your brain can handle, and even trained soldiers and police officers who are already operating in a heightened state of situational awareness can still be taken by surprise when unforeseen, uncontrollable, chaotic events occur. Based on Tessah's advice here, I've ordered a POM OC Clip, and I'm going to begin carrying it, but it will never bee in a position on my person where I will reach for it instinctively if I am surprised. It will only ever be placed where I have to think about where it is, so that I will only ever draw it if and when I have time and presence of mind to draw it in preparation for a potential threat. Real life is not a Hollywood movie or a television show. The action you see on the screen is contrived and heroically dramatized. Real fights are terrifying and chaotic, and the good guy doesn't always win in the end. A swung fist can easily kill or maim you with one punch. If you are at the point where you are justified in spraying someone with pepper spray, you are very likely also at the point where you would be justified in using potentially lethal force to stop an attack. Pepper spray is not a joke, and should never be used lightly. Never use a weapon of any kind merely to threaten. Never brandish a weapon of any kind unless you are in a situation where you would be justified in pulling the trigger. Fear alone is not a justification for the use of force of any kind. OC spray should be treated with every bit as much care as a lethal weapon. But, pepper spray is also not a magic wand, and it won't necessarily incapacitate an attacker (or a aggressive animal), either.
So we just moved into condo complex and had a bit of a scare when my nine-year-old nephew nearly got snatched while walking the dog. Fast-forward a few weeks and we wanted to go to the complex pool but because it was around Labor Day we were in sure if it was open. So my wife has the idea of sending our 14-year-old down to look at it and he drives his feet because he selectively decides to be scared even though he goes out all the time. My response was to pull my pom out of the pocket and hand it to him. "He has but how do I use it" I explained " just lift the cap and press the button,"but she probably does into the wall behind us. For context my whole family was gathered around a king size bed a good 5 to 7 ft away. We instantly all felt the effects and started choking and coughing uncontrollably and had to evacuate the room. The good news is that we know it works now the bad news is I came this close to paternal homicide.
From an European point of view, it's interesting to call it 'underrated'. It's pretty much the #1 thing people would buy for self defense. Inexpensive, more reliable than say a taser, and may even help you escape from multiple assailants (assuming they are unarmed, or 'only' have knives and such). As far as non-lethal self defense goes, there aren't many other tools that offer both range and the ability to hit multiple people in quick succession. I'm thinking of getting some as I'm planning to buy an e-bike, bought an alarm for it, but that leads to the question - what next. I see a bunch of people trying to steal my bike, and then what. In my area they are unlikely to have firearms, but may have knives, power tools (for stealing the bike), or just be big guys and have numbers advantage. So it would be unwise to approach too close. But I think spraying them from afar then running away would be better than just accepting that the bike will get stolen before the police arrive (if they even bother to arrive for bike theft). And of course having a pepper spray on me could come useful if I ever become a target, rather than my possessions. Or if I need to protect someone from violence.
Also carry POM. When I'm ask about the rock-paper- scissors with the gun and carrying pepper spray I say all 3 are use differently. Rock" gun" is for the worst and more law involved after, scissors "pepper spray " is for less but still dangerous and less law involvement, and paper "verbal" is important but the least of the law problems.
I carry Fox 5.3. I got it free. Did a test spray, aggressive jet, would probably be empty in a couple seconds and it's a large can. Once it got in the air, I had to leave the room for a while.
Choose a different church. I attended New Life Church in Colorado Springs and had decided to not attend the Sunday a shooter was there. I am sure that was God’s protection, but the people there were affected. Crazies don’t respect a church. They are driven by demons to kill. As a smart Christian you are responsible for your fellow humans. I implore you to reconsider thoughtfully. You are going to go to heaven if you know Jesus as your Lord and Savior, but it’s probably better to not be in a hurry to get there.😉
As a former LEO from large inner city my experience with pepper spray is that it never really bothered me... Perhaps because we were all sprayed down in the academy and there was no mystique or anxiety about it. What I did notice, particularly in warmer weather, is when we were rolling around fighting in the street the scumbag would get really "slippery" so it was hard to get them on their stomach and cuff them. Of course in the civilian context I guess that is rarely a concern.
In my workplace (commercial security), I'm not allowed to carry a firearm. The facility produces fumes that could easily present a great big fireball of a hazard if the muzzle flash is in the wrong place. I am issued OC spray. Aside from practicing drawing and spraying, I haven't needed it. One of the things I like about spray is that because it's far less lethal, if I find it necessary to use it, I'm not going to face the same type of legal troubles I would face using a firearm. I'm statistically more likely to have use for a very basic traumatic bleed kit than I am a firearm. I carry a Live The Creed pocket pack with gloves, some QuikClot, and a SWAT-T elastic band (can sort-of work as a tourniquet, but also can function to keep the QuikClot in place).
I'm an active LEO here. I carry pepper spray on duty because its a choice of a less lethal options and knowing the risks that I can be potentially exposed to it and knowing that I can fight through it (I've been exposed twice for OC certification). I was working a university homecoming event when a huge brawl broke out and some of the campus officers deployed OC spray. I remember me and several officers were running towards the brawl when we got exposed to it :| Was another experience of a lifetime for sure.
I carry POM daily as well for work and off work. I'm just a security guard and seen way to many other guys self people season themselves with none flip tops. I'm in plain clothes 98% of the time so the smaller footprint it alot easier to have on me than the 4 oz. cans I carry in uniform. Best "deployment" times on other people was when they were crossing from verbal to actual physical confrontations. I only used OC spray on one dog, jerkface sicked his dog on me and I sprayed the dog and that stopped it, than I sprayed the owner for making me spray the poor dog.
I want to add another tidbit about gel pepper canisters and its application. Unlike sprays or fogs, gels do not interact with indoor ventilation systems. I work in a building occupied by other people where I might have to use my pepper gel, and I don’t want to risk contaminating the whole work place with this substance. I’ve read and found other videos warning about using pepper spray in environments where innocent bystanders might be affected by the residuals that h stay in the air after the incident is over. An example might be a restaurant bathroom or classroom where other unintended targets might be affected as a result of the ventilation system. If I can find the video where I learned this, I’ll link it below.
I must have forgotten to put those links in the description, but they are linked in the video itself. You should see the links popping up on your screen as I talk about them.
In my state ny ( I live on long island) it is the only self defense weapon permitted . Even a pocket knife can be viewed as a weapon. Fighting! With your fists to defend your self is illegal because now you have to prove who is and who is not the attacker.
In some states (like California) using a gun for self-defense when an attacker isn't using "deadly force" is considered a crime. Using pepper spray instead is a great option in those scenarios. For example, if someone punches/shoves you, and you retaliate by shooting them, that would be illegal in CA because you escalated to use of deadly force, despite it being in self-defense.
If all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. Everything is not a "nail". There may be a time when the threat has not yet or never reaches the level of death or great bodily harm but you do not want to receive minor bodily harm or run the risk of it escalating to great harm. If you shoot someone because they were slapping you up because they thought you scratched their car in a parking lot. As for use against dogs self defense spray is more powerful than bear spray. I used some spray on a dog about 25 years ago. It worked great, good thing because back then all I had was a fog type and it got me almost as well as the dog. We were both incapacitated. Thank you for the great information.
@sternonicois Doesn’t foam, like gel, take time to aerosolize and expand, and therefore have a delayed impact? (NOTE: I don’t know this to be true- that’s why I’m asking.)
@@KrisCox the best part about foam is that it doesn't aerosolize at all. It just sticks right to where you spray it and you don't risk it blowing back at you or anyone else. It's also really hard to remove so your target will probably be affected by it for longer than a regular spray. There is no delay of pain. Edit: Also it expands just enough to coat skin really well
My dog has been attacked by off leash dogs on two separate occasions and I've been attacked once when out walking by myself. Now I always carry a police size canister (110 gram) of Sabre Red, model M-120FT-OC police magnum. It's saved me more than once. Great stuff works like a charm on dogs and nasty owners. But be careful as some states have size limits on personal defense sprays (California).
I *ALWAYS* carry pepper spray. Always. Even on runs. I have an escalation path: pepper spray > knife > gun, depending on the level of the threat. You couldn’t even tell I’m carrying it in my hand when running, it just looks like I’m carrying my keys.
I have 3 different pepper sprays myself. All of them are pepper gel since it's a little stronger than normal spray. I always take one of them anytime I go out in public. You never know who may get violent or threaten your life. That's why I carry any of them just to be safe. I thought I was gonna have to spray a husky chow mix dog after it bit my leg. When I got my can and pointed it at him, he walked away. Me and my mother talked to the owner. We decided not to press charges. I'm doing good and staying away from that street. That's one reason why I carry my pepper gel.
@@tessahbooth I only have experience with LE spray never used off the shelf I wouldn't just with what I've seen with LE stuff but again something is better then nothing.
Excellent video, as a retired police officer If a woman does not have a German Shepherd a Rottweiler or a Doberman Pincher, not a French Bulldog as her companion and guardian on a daily basis! She needs to carry pepper spray! A woman just recently maces a psychotic male with a knife who stabbed her boyfriend on a New York City subway(Woman maced stranger who stabbed her boyfriend on new York city subway New York Post October 20,2020)! If she did not do that they both would’ve been dead! What the Sexual Predator will do is take out the protector and go after the prey! Excellent job on your video and I hope every woman takes your advice!People do not plan to fail,the just fail to have a plan!
Great video. I've designed my self defense system from myself > out: some basic Krav Maga, Benchmade tactical knife/Atomic Bear pen (strobing LED & glass breaker), Sabre pepper spray (I may switch to POM next time, I also don't like the "safety". Although I did really appreciate the test water canister they include on Amazon)
im 6'3 and other people think im weird for carrying oc spray...their ignorance is annoying...I dont want to have to shoot anyone, and i dont want to risk bodily harm. plenty of people would pull out a knife in the middle of a fist fight.
Some federal agencies do. When I worked for the feds, we carried Def Tec. I've been sprayed with both brands and they both do the same thing. Most sprays do. I've been sprayed with a few different brands. They all burn.
Your goal under any self defense scenario is to get out of that scenario. Use it and get out of there. Call the police and say what happened and again DONT STAY IN THAT AREA if they want to talk to you say you don't feel safe where you are and are headed to destination if they want to talk.
Another thing you can do about dogs is give them a firm no. The average dog knows what that means, and I’ve told a handful of loose dogs while walking my own “no” and avoided an escalation of the encounter.
As an NRA instructor, I teach don't carry a firearm UNLESS you have some OC spray! Many reasons have been given but another one is to illustrate to a District Attorney that you are not some vigilante with a gun but a responsible citizen trying to protect yourself. The hope is that the OC spray will prevent you from having to go to the gun. Learned more on this subject from Chuck Haggard than everywhere else put together!
A proper OC spray in correct context can save a lot of trouble. However, one major objection here. It is plain wrong to categorically say OC sprays are effective against dogs. I have personally witnessed a German Shepherd laugh off police OC spray and came back to attack people. A small scratch from a tiny dog is one thing. But, if you get charged by a Pitbull, you might be missing a pound or two of flesh by the time you found out whether if an OC spray worked or not.
I think that’s less of an objection and more of a call for clarification. So to be clear, I’m not saying oc spray is going to work on every dog, just as I’m also not saying oc spray will work on every human. When I said, “oc spray can and does work against dogs” my intention was not to communicate that dogs can’t fight past it, but to say that it can work on dogs.
@@tessahbooth On a related note, the only thing, other than a gun, that had an immediate effect on dogs with some drgree of dependability from what I have seen is are fire extinguishers.
I guess maybe some dogs might no respond to OC but I've seen many dogs been dosed and have still to find one that did not react... yeah some do react more than others, but in my experience they all just HATE it! Don't know, maybe you can train a dog to truck through? But again, I think that would be quite some training.
@@NiSE_Rafter It's the UK... they don't have rights over there. You are supposed to be maimed by the perps, because if you defend yourself and resist the constables might look bad in the public eye, and the King would be unhappy about it. :>0
Agree 100% that dogs HATE pepper spray. In fact my "OC use-case" is built around aggressive stray/feral dogs (a real concern in my little corner of paradise...). I've seen it work all the time and that's why I carry one. SABER Red, by the way because that's what's available over here. Particularly when I'm out and about with my own dogs for a walk with my family... And yes, absolutely feral dogs come fast and they come low; and as far as I'm concerned they would be more like shotgun targets if at all, maybe. But usually they are fairly easily deterred by OC. Once the underling of the pack sent to test the target gets dosed, the pack usually go find better things to do instead of pressing the issue. On humans I don't know, but I tend to think that not so much, really. I've seen a number of cases where perps did truck through and maimed their intended victims, or had to be shot in order for the incident to be done with. In fact I even went to a class some years ago where we where lavishly dosed with OC, and then required to accomplish a task in order to graduate. Most of us graduated. It was NOT fun, not even remotely, and I don't think I'll be joining another such class anytime soon, but definitively doable. So yeah... Dogs? a 100% (ok, nothing is a 100%... but it's really high up there). Perps? It depends on the perp I guess... great info!
It's a really bad idea to carry OC spray with a gun in my opinion. I strongly suggest that people don't take her advice as well as others in this consideration.
Good OC spray and a good flashlight are a far better self defense combination than many people realize. I fall back to your "it's something in between a harsh word and a gun" quote all the time.
So I buy two six packs of POM OC spray every Christmas to give as gifts. That way people don't need to remember to buy new spray every year. I do it for them.
I think you covered just about everything.
From an LE background, I would add consider your environment when using pepper spray. If out doors, which way is the wind blowing,; you don’t want to have the spray blowing back into your face.
Secondly, if used indoors, even with a stream, there can be a residual mist of the spray that can affect you in addition to the bad guy.
Finally, pepper spray may not work on people under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or are in mental health crisis.
Food for thought when considering deploying pepper spray.
My experience was with a weaker pepper spray that really wasn’t all that effective. People were able to fight through it. When we switched to Saber Red, it was quite effective. But it affected us cops too if we walked into that “wall” of residual mist.
It can be an effective tool to give you time to get away from the situation.
This is why I carry Sabre Red pepper gel :)
What weaker pepper spray did you use initially? So Sabre Red worked for you guys? Did it stop the bad guys in their tracks?
Spray entire can. Then carefully walk backwards.
Sabre red and fox labs are the best pepper sprays on the market only losing to giant 10 inch cans of bear spray
Lucky Gunner has an excellent video on pepper spray testing to augment Ms. A&S's fine look at the subject. I carry a POM spray in the pocket, and a Sabre or Fox Labs when wearing a jacket.
I also carry the POM and add a glued zip-tie over that kinda small finger guard. This reminds me that mine are 2yrs old now should probably replace them.
OC freaking SUUUUUCKS to get hit by. I've experienced it once so far when getting certified with it and whew it was some of the worst pain of my life. Had to force my eyes open with my hands to see where I was going. Definitely a defense option worthy of consideration.
OC had virtually no effect on me
@@JonCampo91what did you get sprayed with. I'm a LE training instructor and I've never seen anyone not affected assuming it was deployed properly. I have seen individuals not affected much by weaker sprays but never the higher capsaicin sprays.
How long did it last?
@@HAMMERHEAD-g3hOC resistance is a thing, in the MP corps we had a few people who had almost no effect on it. We were all like “bro you F-in suck” lmao
One more positive thing to add is that it's a range tool, unlike fists, batons, knives, etc. Granted the range is small, but still it allows you to stay 5-7-10 feet away from the threat.
Excellent presentation, per usual.
Great video very informative. I used to carry OC along with my EDC , but stopped for unknown reasons. You convinced me to start again. Thanks
Hi Tessah, I just wanted to comment and say that I've appreciated your videos a lot because of their clear, concise (sometimes very concise) explanations with very helpful visuals to back them up. I recently decided to take the step from an off-the-rack FOMI clip holster to a custom piece that carries the pistol/light combo that I've wanted for a while. Your tips about and demonstrations of carry styles, belt clips, and more have been indispensable.
Do you think that some time you could make a video about why you choose to own guns and why you concealed carry? I think that a lot of people who are a bit confused about or made nervous by guns would really appreciate hearing what in your philosophy and/or worldview led you to do so because you present things in a calm, logical way without a tough guy routine or fluff. More people need to hear why kind, calm, normal people are involved with guns and therefore make informed decisions.
Thank you, stay armed, stay styled!
POM is part of my EDC. I walk in the neighborhood every day and keep it in my hand when dogs are around. I've nearly used it three times. I would never shoot a dog unless it was biting me or maybe if it were something like a pit bull lunging at me.
I was charged by a VERY aggressive pit, he definitley responded to spray.
Will you do a "what's in my range bag" video in the future?
Great information! Thank you for sharing! I have 3 threat prevention tools available: pepper spray, knife, then firearm.
I love walks by the river where I live. There are paved paths and lots of super cute pups to meet, along with geese and ducks. I always carry my pepper spray when walking. Whether dog, human or fowl, I think I'm prepared for any "unwanted attention"...lol. POM is wonderful!!!
This is so true! OC Spray can solve so many more problems than a gun can.
I always carry 2 on me. Strong side and support side. Because of our incredibly uninformed lawmakers size restrictions are put on the canisters. Therefore in a real situation with multiple attackers or a missed shot having more than one is a good idea. I also us POM. It is a great product and their customer service is top notch.
Great point
Lots of cogent arguments for OC. Thanks for this breakdown!!
Nice video 👌 I carry oc on and off duty, lots of people don't think about it but a person may have combat skills but oc will help to minimize contact (you never know what that person may have on them) with whomever they encounter. Its good to have the fighting skills but id rather oc them than to have to have physical contact if i have the choice. I've never had to deply it and hopefully I'll never have to. 👍
Why carry both OC and a gun? Why does you car steering/brakes, but also air bags?
I carry oc and a gun too. For the same reasons.
If you don't know those yet, you might want to take a look at the Piexon Guardian Angel, it is a two-shot pepper spray device that uses small explosive charges to propel a really thick spray.
Good thing is it can be safely used against the wind and has plenty enough pressure to push the liquid right through the fabric of a ski mask, around large sunglasses and so on. The stuff will shoot straight up somebodies nose when hit in the face, even with eyes firmly closed it will make direct contact with the eyeball, effects are pretty much immediate, very nasty stuff.
You only have two uses, but I consider this an advantage as I can shoot off both charges rendering the device inert, ready to be dropped to quickly free my hands without the possibility to be picked up and used against me.
YES YES YES!!! Pepper spray (I prefer gel) is the *most underrated* but also the *most useful* self-defense tool! Mine has already saved my bacon once heh. The gel I use was effective even though the dude (who was wearing glasses) was a split second from being on top of me with his aggression so I'm gonna press X to Doubt on the claim that they don't work as quickly ...
Personally, I feel that *every* good person should carry at least one non-lethal option and one lethal option for self-defense :)
The problem with "less lethal" forms of self-defense is that if you are surprised, it's not always possible to determine the actual threat level of a potential attacker, and if you guess wrong, not only will there very likely be no time to change your mind, failure to meet an attack with potentially lethal force could prove fatal for you. Self-defense scenarios play out in much less time than your brain can handle, and even trained soldiers and police officers who are already operating in a heightened state of situational awareness can still be taken by surprise when unforeseen, uncontrollable, chaotic events occur.
Based on Tessah's advice here, I've ordered a POM OC Clip, and I'm going to begin carrying it, but it will never bee in a position on my person where I will reach for it instinctively if I am surprised. It will only ever be placed where I have to think about where it is, so that I will only ever draw it if and when I have time and presence of mind to draw it in preparation for a potential threat.
Real life is not a Hollywood movie or a television show. The action you see on the screen is contrived and heroically dramatized. Real fights are terrifying and chaotic, and the good guy doesn't always win in the end. A swung fist can easily kill or maim you with one punch. If you are at the point where you are justified in spraying someone with pepper spray, you are very likely also at the point where you would be justified in using potentially lethal force to stop an attack.
Pepper spray is not a joke, and should never be used lightly. Never use a weapon of any kind merely to threaten. Never brandish a weapon of any kind unless you are in a situation where you would be justified in pulling the trigger. Fear alone is not a justification for the use of force of any kind. OC spray should be treated with every bit as much care as a lethal weapon. But, pepper spray is also not a magic wand, and it won't necessarily incapacitate an attacker (or a aggressive animal), either.
My edc consist of pepper gel, tactical pen and tactical cane, I have several guns but I can't take the guns everywhere...
So we just moved into condo complex and had a bit of a scare when my nine-year-old nephew nearly got snatched while walking the dog. Fast-forward a few weeks and we wanted to go to the complex pool but because it was around Labor Day we were in sure if it was open. So my wife has the idea of sending our 14-year-old down to look at it and he drives his feet because he selectively decides to be scared even though he goes out all the time. My response was to pull my pom out of the pocket and hand it to him. "He has but how do I use it"
I explained " just lift the cap and press the button,"but she probably does into the wall behind us. For context my whole family was gathered around a king size bed a good 5 to 7 ft away. We instantly all felt the effects and started choking and coughing uncontrollably and had to evacuate the room. The good news is that we know it works now the bad news is I came this close to paternal homicide.
Do you have links for the Haggard instruction series ?
Yes, sorry I forgot to add them when I uploaded the video 🤦🏼♀️ m.ruclips.net/video/XQ12QQ4TfWo/видео.html
@@tessahbooth Really well done video and thanks.
From an European point of view, it's interesting to call it 'underrated'. It's pretty much the #1 thing people would buy for self defense. Inexpensive, more reliable than say a taser, and may even help you escape from multiple assailants (assuming they are unarmed, or 'only' have knives and such). As far as non-lethal self defense goes, there aren't many other tools that offer both range and the ability to hit multiple people in quick succession. I'm thinking of getting some as I'm planning to buy an e-bike, bought an alarm for it, but that leads to the question - what next. I see a bunch of people trying to steal my bike, and then what. In my area they are unlikely to have firearms, but may have knives, power tools (for stealing the bike), or just be big guys and have numbers advantage. So it would be unwise to approach too close. But I think spraying them from afar then running away would be better than just accepting that the bike will get stolen before the police arrive (if they even bother to arrive for bike theft).
And of course having a pepper spray on me could come useful if I ever become a target, rather than my possessions. Or if I need to protect someone from violence.
Also carry POM. When I'm ask about the rock-paper- scissors with the gun and carrying pepper spray I say all 3 are use differently. Rock" gun" is for the worst and more law involved after, scissors "pepper spray " is for less but still dangerous and less law involvement, and paper "verbal" is important but the least of the law problems.
I carry Fox 5.3. I got it free. Did a test spray, aggressive jet, would probably be empty in a couple seconds and it's a large can. Once it got in the air, I had to leave the room for a while.
This is fitting, I just became a POM dealer today
I've been pepper sprayed, it will definitely slow someone down. Plus far less likely to land you in a jail cell if you deploy it.
We are not allowed to carry at church. So this is the next best thing to carry. Thank you for your videos!
Choose a different church. I attended New Life Church in Colorado Springs and had decided to not attend the Sunday a shooter was there. I am sure that was God’s protection, but the people there were affected. Crazies don’t respect a church. They are driven by demons to kill. As a smart Christian you are responsible for your fellow humans. I implore you to reconsider thoughtfully. You are going to go to heaven if you know Jesus as your Lord and Savior, but it’s probably better to not be in a hurry to get there.😉
As a former LEO from large inner city my experience with pepper spray is that it never really bothered me... Perhaps because we were all sprayed down in the academy and there was no mystique or anxiety about it. What I did notice, particularly in warmer weather, is when we were rolling around fighting in the street the scumbag would get really "slippery" so it was hard to get them on their stomach and cuff them. Of course in the civilian context I guess that is rarely a concern.
In my workplace (commercial security), I'm not allowed to carry a firearm. The facility produces fumes that could easily present a great big fireball of a hazard if the muzzle flash is in the wrong place.
I am issued OC spray. Aside from practicing drawing and spraying, I haven't needed it.
One of the things I like about spray is that because it's far less lethal, if I find it necessary to use it, I'm not going to face the same type of legal troubles I would face using a firearm.
I'm statistically more likely to have use for a very basic traumatic bleed kit than I am a firearm. I carry a Live The Creed pocket pack with gloves, some QuikClot, and a SWAT-T elastic band (can sort-of work as a tourniquet, but also can function to keep the QuikClot in place).
Great Video
I'm an active LEO here. I carry pepper spray on duty because its a choice of a less lethal options and knowing the risks that I can be potentially exposed to it and knowing that I can fight through it (I've been exposed twice for OC certification). I was working a university homecoming event when a huge brawl broke out and some of the campus officers deployed OC spray. I remember me and several officers were running towards the brawl when we got exposed to it :| Was another experience of a lifetime for sure.
I work in a not so good area I am really thinking about getting some OC spray
I carry POM daily as well for work and off work. I'm just a security guard and seen way to many other guys self people season themselves with none flip tops. I'm in plain clothes 98% of the time so the smaller footprint it alot easier to have on me than the 4 oz. cans I carry in uniform. Best "deployment" times on other people was when they were crossing from verbal to actual physical confrontations. I only used OC spray on one dog, jerkface sicked his dog on me and I sprayed the dog and that stopped it, than I sprayed the owner for making me spray the poor dog.
I want to add another tidbit about gel pepper canisters and its application. Unlike sprays or fogs, gels do not interact with indoor ventilation systems. I work in a building occupied by other people where I might have to use my pepper gel, and I don’t want to risk contaminating the whole work place with this substance. I’ve read and found other videos warning about using pepper spray in environments where innocent bystanders might be affected by the residuals that h stay in the air after the incident is over. An example might be a restaurant bathroom or classroom where other unintended targets might be affected as a result of the ventilation system. If I can find the video where I learned this, I’ll link it below.
You said you'd link all these interesting things "below", but there are no such links that I can find.
I must have forgotten to put those links in the description, but they are linked in the video itself. You should see the links popping up on your screen as I talk about them.
In my state ny ( I live on long island) it is the only self defense weapon permitted . Even a pocket knife can be viewed as a weapon. Fighting! With your fists to defend your self is illegal because now you have to prove who is and who is not the attacker.
In some states (like California) using a gun for self-defense when an attacker isn't using "deadly force" is considered a crime. Using pepper spray instead is a great option in those scenarios.
For example, if someone punches/shoves you, and you retaliate by shooting them, that would be illegal in CA because you escalated to use of deadly force, despite it being in self-defense.
And in the UK pepper spray is banned.
If all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. Everything is not a "nail". There may be a time when the threat has not yet or never reaches the level of death or great bodily harm but you do not want to receive minor bodily harm or run the risk of it escalating to great harm. If you shoot someone because they were slapping you up because they thought you scratched their car in a parking lot. As for use against dogs self defense spray is more powerful than bear spray. I used some spray on a dog about 25 years ago. It worked great, good thing because back then all I had was a fog type and it got me almost as well as the dog. We were both incapacitated. Thank you for the great information.
Pepper foam is really good as well.
@sternonicois Doesn’t foam, like gel, take time to aerosolize and expand, and therefore have a delayed impact? (NOTE: I don’t know this to be true- that’s why I’m asking.)
@@KrisCox the best part about foam is that it doesn't aerosolize at all. It just sticks right to where you spray it and you don't risk it blowing back at you or anyone else. It's also really hard to remove so your target will probably be affected by it for longer than a regular spray. There is no delay of pain.
Edit: Also it expands just enough to coat skin really well
@@sternonisoil thanks for the education.
never leave the house without pepper spray. thank you for the brand recommendations!
Also carry high power flash light
Sabre red pepper 🌶️ spray comes in handy
My dog has been attacked by off leash dogs on two separate occasions and I've been attacked once when out walking by myself. Now I always carry a police size canister (110 gram) of Sabre Red, model M-120FT-OC police magnum. It's saved me more than once. Great stuff works like a charm on dogs and nasty owners. But be careful as some states have size limits on personal defense sprays (California).
Always keep a pepper spray on you. Flashlights and pepper spray and excellent tools.
and a whistle. when you're (the perp) is already nervous, having a sensory overload as a surprise is completely jarring.
I *ALWAYS* carry pepper spray. Always. Even on runs. I have an escalation path: pepper spray > knife > gun, depending on the level of the threat. You couldn’t even tell I’m carrying it in my hand when running, it just looks like I’m carrying my keys.
Oh no, this hooman is spicy!
I have 3 different pepper sprays myself. All of them are pepper gel since it's a little stronger than normal spray. I always take one of them anytime I go out in public. You never know who may get violent or threaten your life. That's why I carry any of them just to be safe.
I thought I was gonna have to spray a husky chow mix dog after it bit my leg. When I got my can and pointed it at him, he walked away. Me and my mother talked to the owner. We decided not to press charges. I'm doing good and staying away from that street. That's one reason why I carry my pepper gel.
I’ve seen guys fight through or not be affected enough by spray or at all
Yep! Not everyone is affected by it the same way. However, the formula being used can make a significant difference.
@@tessahbooth I only have experience with LE spray never used off the shelf I wouldn't just with what I've seen with LE stuff but again something is better then nothing.
I carry it. I just need to stop sending it through the washer 😑
Hahaha that’s so relatable 😂
It’s in a pressurized container. Should be still potent, etc.
Not only will you disable the aggressor, but you'll leave them smelling like fresh laundry!
Appreciate the work you do! (Have a plan and keep it moving - nothing is 100%) be safe - carry on ⭐🔫🖖🇺🇸
Excellent video, as a retired police officer If a woman does not have a German Shepherd a Rottweiler or a Doberman Pincher, not a French Bulldog as her companion and guardian on a daily basis! She needs to carry pepper spray! A woman just recently maces a psychotic male with a knife who stabbed her boyfriend on a New York City subway(Woman maced stranger who stabbed her boyfriend on new York city subway New York Post October 20,2020)! If she did not do that they both would’ve been dead! What the Sexual Predator will do is take out the protector and go after the prey! Excellent job on your video and I hope every woman takes your advice!People do not plan to fail,the just fail to have a plan!
Not to mention using or even DRAWING a gun at all can get you in a ton of trouble, let alone if you have to use it
Great video. I've designed my self defense system from myself > out: some basic Krav Maga, Benchmade tactical knife/Atomic Bear pen (strobing LED & glass breaker), Sabre pepper spray (I may switch to POM next time, I also don't like the "safety". Although I did really appreciate the test water canister they include on Amazon)
"POM" PEPPER SPRAY is inferior to "FOX LABS" PEPPER SPRAY!! Hands down!😉👊🇺🇸 I agree Pepper spray is crucial!!!👍
im 6'3 and other people think im weird for carrying oc spray...their ignorance is annoying...I dont want to have to shoot anyone, and i dont want to risk bodily harm. plenty of people would pull out a knife in the middle of a fist fight.
Armed and Styled yo what up
Fed Gov uses Sabre Red
Yep! Saber has a great formula as well. It's just not my preference for carrying daily.
Some federal agencies do. When I worked for the feds, we carried Def Tec. I've been sprayed with both brands and they both do the same thing. Most sprays do. I've been sprayed with a few different brands. They all burn.
Your goal under any self defense scenario is to get out of that scenario. Use it and get out of there. Call the police and say what happened and again DONT STAY IN THAT AREA if they want to talk to you say you don't feel safe where you are and are headed to destination if they want to talk.
I shot at a pitbull less than 7 feet away from me and missed. They're definitely harder to hit than you think
Ameri do te isn’t a case of might work young lady it always works 😂
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Another thing you can do about dogs is give them a firm no. The average dog knows what that means, and I’ve told a handful of loose dogs while walking my own “no” and avoided an escalation of the encounter.
As an NRA instructor, I teach don't carry a firearm UNLESS you have some OC spray! Many reasons have been given but another one is to illustrate to a District Attorney that you are not some vigilante with a gun but a responsible citizen trying to protect yourself. The hope is that the OC spray will prevent you from having to go to the gun. Learned more on this subject from Chuck Haggard than everywhere else put together!
A proper OC spray in correct context can save a lot of trouble. However, one major objection here. It is plain wrong to categorically say OC sprays are effective against dogs. I have personally witnessed a German Shepherd laugh off police OC spray and came back to attack people. A small scratch from a tiny dog is one thing. But, if you get charged by a Pitbull, you might be missing a pound or two of flesh by the time you found out whether if an OC spray worked or not.
I think that’s less of an objection and more of a call for clarification. So to be clear, I’m not saying oc spray is going to work on every dog, just as I’m also not saying oc spray will work on every human. When I said, “oc spray can and does work against dogs” my intention was not to communicate that dogs can’t fight past it, but to say that it can work on dogs.
@@tessahbooth On a related note, the only thing, other than a gun, that had an immediate effect on dogs with some drgree of dependability from what I have seen is are fire extinguishers.
I guess maybe some dogs might no respond to OC but I've seen many dogs been dosed and have still to find one that did not react... yeah some do react more than others, but in my experience they all just HATE it!
Don't know, maybe you can train a dog to truck through? But again, I think that would be quite some training.
@@tessahbooth You were clear and never guaranteed it would work in all situations with all dogs. You have great patience my dear ! 😊
Illegal in the U.K. unfortunately
It's literally just a fancy spray bottle filled with cayenne pepper. What the heck.
@@NiSE_Rafter It's the UK... they don't have rights over there. You are supposed to be maimed by the perps, because if you defend yourself and resist the constables might look bad in the public eye, and the King would be unhappy about it. :>0
Agree 100% that dogs HATE pepper spray. In fact my "OC use-case" is built around aggressive stray/feral dogs (a real concern in my little corner of paradise...). I've seen it work all the time and that's why I carry one. SABER Red, by the way because that's what's available over here. Particularly when I'm out and about with my own dogs for a walk with my family... And yes, absolutely feral dogs come fast and they come low; and as far as I'm concerned they would be more like shotgun targets if at all, maybe. But usually they are fairly easily deterred by OC. Once the underling of the pack sent to test the target gets dosed, the pack usually go find better things to do instead of pressing the issue.
On humans I don't know, but I tend to think that not so much, really. I've seen a number of cases where perps did truck through and maimed their intended victims, or had to be shot in order for the incident to be done with. In fact I even went to a class some years ago where we where lavishly dosed with OC, and then required to accomplish a task in order to graduate. Most of us graduated. It was NOT fun, not even remotely, and I don't think I'll be joining another such class anytime soon, but definitively doable. So yeah... Dogs? a 100% (ok, nothing is a 100%... but it's really high up there). Perps? It depends on the perp I guess... great info!
It's a really bad idea to carry OC spray with a gun in my opinion. I strongly suggest that people don't take her advice as well as others in this consideration.