"Look at the chassis....." Just NOT too closely. You may notice the horrible welds and areas COMPLETLY missed during the corrosion protection process. Honda is a shell of the company it ONCE was.
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I have none of the adjustable screen , tubeless rim, electronic suspension, tft screen .. a 2019 standard manual takes me to places I like just the same with fun and enjoyment. The Africa Twin regardless of year model will always be a great adventure bike.
😂 are you telling me that you can go places without apple play, built in gps, Bluetooth, etc??? I don't believe you because all the "experts" tell me opposite
The 2024 AT is a great upgrade, finally honda have fitted tubeless wheels (which will benefit atleast 90% of owners, who spend most of their riding on roads). Out of all the big ADV bikes I’ve owned or spent a decent time on, the Honda showa electronic suspension is the best. So with those new additions and cruise control, an adjustable screen and Apple CarPlay, the AT is the top of the pile for me now 👍🏻
@@TheZakkmylde And it appears that Canada only gets red color in the ABS(base), but it's growing on me. As for ES, I've never had it before and I'm an old dirt biker used to dialing in my own suspension, so I'm fine without it and will gain from 4.4 lbs less weight. Set up your suspension for off road without extra payload and then you will only need quick preload change when you add payload.
More power to you bro, that's super fantastic that you still ride! I bought the 2024 and it's fantastic, but I still love my 2016. Truth be told, I only need one, and the refinement of the 2024 is palpable.
Nice, but TOO top heavy 🤢 SO MANY will never buy this Africa, because they CAN'T lift it - if dropped. Their prettyy much USELESS ( unless upgraded, until it costs like the Africa...) TRANS - also top heavy, no CC, crappy tubed wheels..... We prefer the NC750X - IF it's PROPERLY updated : CC, tubeless-spoked wheels, proper suspension, C-ABS, TFT with connect.... Till Hondas' "smart" management computes in their heads, that they should invest in their BEST bike concept - Honda is NOT interesting ! 🤷♂
Great video… I own a 2021 DCT standard Africa Twin and was close to pulling the trigger on a DCT Adventure sport last year… so glad I didn’t the new standard bike with DCT And electronic suspension is definitely going to be my next bike… not that fussed about the adventure sports bigger tank as mine gets 200-220 miles per the tank anyway
Finally, I get to see the Base model. I bought one in Canada and it’s coming in May but nobody’s making videos about the base. It’s always about the adventure. I really wish you touched more on the windscreen because I’m 6 foot tall so I’m curious if it’s adequate enough sports.
My biggest issue with all these bikes is long term what will the Tech be like after countless dirt road vibrations, falls, water, dirt, dust I generally keep my bikes 10 years will the Tech and instrument cluster hold up to the abuse for that long?? Can anyone answer that??
Ye I can answer that, I have my Africa twin 1100 since 2020, I have clocked 60k miles on it, everything works still as the day I bought it 4 years ago. All the tech and electronics work , it's been through lots of rainy days so it has a few rust spots but nothing that is of any concern,mostly paint chipping off. I dropped it in mud a few times,not too much cause I didn't really take it through mud like a dirt bike but did many gravels and soft dirt roads, many many motorways miles and lots of city ride too. That's an average of 15k miles a year on it, it's bulletproof.
Undoubtedly the best looking adventure bike, 100%. Finally tubeless wheels and Apple CarPlay is superb, just one thing Honda, where do I put my phone? Bluetooth dongle works brilliantly with the AT’s Apple CarPlay, why the hell do all the other manufacturers fit huge tft’s, and not utilise Apple CarPlay and Android alternative. 👍
A TFT without CarPlay rally is missing the mark in 2024. IMO Honda has stolen a march on everyone when it comes to actual liveability there with the dual display. Very, very well done.
The big question: Should I switch from my 2023 Yamaha Tracer 9 GT to a African Twin? We are planning a trip from Gran Canaria, Morocco and up through Europe to Denmark.
I cant recognize any of it unless you compaire the bike to a bike lige a GS. The AT is slow on the road and unprecise offroad, on top of that the quality of the wiring and electronics is even worse than the bmw
An AT is slow on road? Hardly. Compared to the BMW granted it's final drive won't grenade, the spoked wheels won't go loose, the gearbox won't self destruct, the forks won't fall apart and unlike the latest GS you won't need to re-torque the big end cap bolts. Honda really need to up their game!
Honestly it is great bike . In my opinion not for heavy off-road. Great that now has 19. Inch. I have done on older one more then 150000 km and it is good . As I mentioned to expensive i case fall. Crash bars help if you just drop it.
Really like the tubeless wheel setup and the rims look amazing! Of the three colours I prefer the white and if possible would spend the extra for the suspension upgrade. But would settle for the base model.
Hi. If you must to choose in between DCT or electronic suspension what you choose? I ask this because with two future together the price increase to much! Great job I love your channel!
Can you put these wheels on a Transalp given they are 18 and 21 inches, the same size.? Expensive I’m sure but means I’d keep my Transalp for a long time which would be much cheaper than replacing it. Even had conflicting answers from the Honda sales team, but that may have been before this iteration.
I go with my friend who has a new AT on all the dirt roads, off road camping...I prefer my Ducati Multi V4S which does everything the AT does but i feel better. 🤭🤫 Dont tell him that. We both dropped our bikes cause he had the bright idea to stop on a steep incline, i was to close and he ended up rolling back into me taking us both down like bowling pins. With all my tech bits nothing broke and everything still worked. Got a few scrapes which i like having on the bike showing everyone what a bad ass i am. ;) Im bias.
When i selected my adventure bike i made sure i rode them all. And i did. I rode the AT, GS, Tiger's, Tenere, i opted not to do KTM because i loath the way they look. If it were the best id hate walking up to it. I took the Duc because it was the most comfortable ergo, AND ride quality. Super soft if you want, nice and hard if you need it, fantastic sport which none of the others offer, and capable off roading. Like i said i ride off road and on w/ this lots of moto camping, it has the chops to do it all. Heated grips AND seat, radar cruise, quick shifter, rev match i mean it does do it all. The others did some or most but not all of that. On top of that the next best GS was not as comfortable in the ride quality! Im splitting hairs here but if I'm dropping 30k on a bike I'm gonna SPLIT HAIRS. Brand aside i was biased and came away buying the duc and loving it for it.
Shame we don't get the NT 1100 in the U.S. would be a great commuter/touring bike. (Commute in the U.S. can be 15 miles each way or 50+) I agree that the Africa Twin is good looking for an ADV, second favorite would be a Desert X.
I’m considering trading my Tenere 700 for one of these exact models. I do love the Tenere but most of my riding is on the road where sometimes I feel the Teneres 72hp is a little lacking. Time for a test ride I think
I thinking the same! Had the tenere fourth season. Es But i Don’t know about dct? Must try ! Love the tenere But 80% road i think the AT is a better bike🇸🇪
Couldn’t agree more……but I felt that way in 2016 when it first came out….then again in 2018 with the ADV Sports model. Honda blew it in 2020 until this updated 2024 IMHO, seemed too unfocused until this model. I could go on but aside from a wee more power and less weight in the future, this new ones in basic form would be my pic. Nice review Bob. 🖖
CarPlay/Android Auto should be available on so many more bikes. And tubeless tires for the win. Wish it had a touch more HP but otherwise, great mid/large ADV option.
Why more power? It already limits the maximum speed to avoid risking the tires. If you haven't ridden one, go for it, as it seems more powerful than others that claim the same or more power. What other big trail mirrors your cell phone on the dashboard ?
Thanks for another awesome review. I just can't get my head around the 19" front on the Adventure. Down here in Africa and probably Aus we need fuel range. So the Adventure model would be the default for proper overlanding. BMW or Honda, same option for both. Who love fuel bladders 😮 So why would you buy the larger fuel tank bike if you not planning to do proper overlanding? If you gonna do proper overlanding you need a 21" front. This is the same as Land Rover fitting out a old Defender with road tyres and suspension as factory and trying to sell you a Discovery as the most capable model.
Off the stand, the bike is so top heavy. That fact has always put me off, the otherwise brilliant Africa Twin. As a side note, that tripod on your back, whilst riding, is not a good idea, being a big liability, for back injuries, if you have a fall. Thanks, for your excellent reviews.
The bike is more than amazing, but there's something else I'd like to ask you: What is the name of the model of boots you are using at 2:28? Thank you so much for your time and answer.
How have the Honda version of the perimeter tubeless spoked wheels held up on the AS model? I always wanted this on my 2016 and then experienced very early failure on the european bike that I replaced it with that had the perimeter spoke design. Are Honda's tubeless spoke wheels up to serious offroading?
@simonportlock586 after converting my Africa Twin to tubeless using an Outex Kit I did just that. Luckily I never had to use it. I still preferred a quick plug and go that tubeless gives me and kept the tube as an emergency measure only. With this new Africa Twin and its perimeter spoke design, my concern stands with the easily damaged wheel. They can be expensive, as I have learned the hard way.
Couldn't agree more. Lots of people complaining about the 19" front on the Adventure Sport, but in 2024 Honda have simply given you the best of both worlds. I have a 2023 Adventure Sport, but if I was going again, it would be the base model with ES and I would probably stay with the DCT as well. Maintains the offroad focus of the base model (without compromising it in any way), but with options for all the goodies that were only previously available on the Adventure Sport.
I'm about to buy an africa twin. Maybe you can help me with your opinion. Should I get a 2023 adv sports or a 2024 base model? I like the 21 inch wheel.
It’s also the best sounding adv bike out there. Of course any parallel twin with a 270° crank is. I have a 2017 still absolutely love it. I have an Ohlins shock and Ohlins internals in the forks but it makes me wonder how easy electronic suspension is to service. I’m debating getting a new AT in the next year or two.
So does the electronic suspension give you automatic height adjustment? As I’m 5’8 “ that would be pretty handy. Previously owned a Honda XLV750 with shaft drive.
Thanks for your very well-balanced review. Just watched it again and the following thoughts have surfaced for me. The 2024 Africa Twin is an incredible improvement on the release of the 2020 model when it was upgraded to the current 1,084cc motor. The torque has increased and is much smoother and more measured in its deployment from zero to high rpm. It really is a pearler of a twin motor with a great traditional 'twin' sound with the upgraded 2024 muffler. I'm a fan and a Honda tragic from way back and can hardly wait to own one. I would very much like to buy the '25 model next year. HOWEVER, Honda will NOT be getting my money until at least some or all of the following glitches/negatives are resolved: 1) The atrociously long time it takes to boot the TFT screen and THEN it requires a touch on an 'OK' button before giving you access. WTF Honda?! No other manufacturers spoil the ride experience like this so WTF Honda?! 2) The switchgear needs an overhaul - simplify it AND include backlighting 3) An easy way to get the seat height BELOW 800mm. Please don't try to tell me it can't be done Honda. I'm 5'6" (167cm) and I would like to be able to flatfoot. 795mm seat height is a worthy goal Honda. 4) For the top-of-the-line model (mainly road use owners) ditch those ridiculous spoked wheels and give us some tasteful forged cast aluminium wheels. Cleaning spokes is an absolute nightmare. We already have enough cleaning with the chain drive, so, please Honda - some alloys. 5) For two-up touring it most definitely needs some more power. They should either bump the capacity to 1250cc for another 30hp OR, preferably, finally release the supercharged model on which they hold a Japanese patent and as such has been in development since 2019. One would think that simply in the name of competition with the Multistradas, GS1300s, Triumphs et al, Honda would want to increase the power at least somewhat. It is great for low speed stuff but 2-up with luggage on the highway it does need quite a bit more. Please! (from all reports the supercharger design is for low-mid range torque - not meant to be a high-rev Kawasaki H2 competitor). 6) Not mandatory for my purchase but, with DCT, a reverse gear for parking such a heavy baby would be handy. You'd only need 'impulse power' Scotty :-) 7) Does that great sounding rear muffler really have to be the size of a boat anchor? So there's my list of gripes for a bike I love a lot. My wishlist. How about it Honda - all for '25?
@@TheZakkmylde They’re fine but the Michelin Anakee roads are better. If you’re happy with them keep them and perhaps consider the Michelins when you need new tyres.
Amazing bike not sure I would be happy trashing such and expensive bike on adventure trails. Most of us can afford only 1 bike theses days it’s not the 80s when you had an XR650 a Ducati Monster and a Harley Love the blogs thanks so much. Partner Kids home loan dogs car and bike that’s the highrachy if you as the account it’s probably dogs kids home loan partner note no motor vehicle is on the list 😂
Fantastic bike, but its probably coming to an end for this "generation" AT? Just guessing, but since the upgrades for 2024 its gonna be some years before a new AT. Im waiting hopefully for a bigger engine upgrade.
Not being able to ride a 2024 AT 1100 and really wanting to, this is a question for MotoBob or others who have ridden both of my candidates for the next bike, would you buy a 2024 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro or this 2024 Africa Twin with the suspension upgrade plus some other goodies? Thanks for your input.
Tubeless tires are all great and fun, until you get a hit to your rims and bend them! All the plugs of the world won’t be enough to fix that! And these alloy rims crack, bend and break like there’s no tomorrow!
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"Look at the chassis....."
Just NOT too closely. You may notice the horrible welds and areas COMPLETLY missed during the corrosion protection process.
Honda is a shell of the company it ONCE was.
Hi , what make is the tyre repair plug pls ?
I wished honda would allow the U.S. spec standard AT with the electronic suspension over here
What jacket are you wearing?
How many mpg on the scooter? and is it better than a BMW?
Keepn life simple… Tuareg 660. 450lbs… got every feature you’ve mentioned. All for $11.5k
But it’s not a Honda AT
2016 MT tubeless rear tube front not giving this one up it's my big DS it's just as easy to ride as my 94 KLX650 just a lot faster....
whai is wrong with honda right now with the e clutch nonsense
Still wish Honda had done a 750cc version of this bike instead of the Transalp. Great video, Thanks.
Then it will be a conflict of interest haha
What would have been the difference in your opinion between the new Transalp and what a baby Africa Twin could have been?
@@thomasbelanger8715 Looks. The AT just looks better.
@@TT-ch2pz agreed
@@TT-ch2pz Agreed
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I have none of the adjustable screen , tubeless rim, electronic suspension, tft screen .. a 2019 standard manual takes me to places I like just the same with fun and enjoyment. The Africa Twin regardless of year model will always be a great adventure bike.
If u don’t have it how would u know what it’s like? Lol
Exactly
😂 are you telling me that you can go places without apple play, built in gps, Bluetooth, etc??? I don't believe you because all the "experts" tell me opposite
@@stephenbarabas6286 the experts are salesmen
@@stephenbarabas6286 the experts are the salesmen
I love the mobility scooter parked right outside the garage door 😅
Bob's Daily Driver :)
Is that mobility scooter a new 2024 Yamaha model 😉😁
Tenere 25 x4 review coming soon 😂
8 best features of this Mobility Scooter…..
@@eightballsidepocket’Tenere 25x4…’. Isn’t that just a Volvo 😂
The 2024 AT is a great upgrade, finally honda have fitted tubeless wheels (which will benefit atleast 90% of owners, who spend most of their riding on roads). Out of all the big ADV bikes I’ve owned or spent a decent time on, the Honda showa electronic suspension is the best. So with those new additions and cruise control, an adjustable screen and Apple CarPlay, the AT is the top of the pile for me now 👍🏻
But is it easy to drive on tarmac for everyday use as the adventure?
Why not available on standard in Canada the ES 😢
@@TheZakkmylde And it appears that Canada only gets red color in the ABS(base), but it's growing on me. As for ES, I've never had it before and I'm an old dirt biker used to dialing in my own suspension, so I'm fine without it and will gain from 4.4 lbs less weight. Set up your suspension for off road without extra payload and then you will only need quick preload change when you add payload.
I have a 17 DCT I bought new and love it. I have the DCT because I only have one arm (thanks Honda!)
You now have me wanting a new 24 lol
More power to you bro, that's super fantastic that you still ride! I bought the 2024 and it's fantastic, but I still love my 2016. Truth be told, I only need one, and the refinement of the 2024 is palpable.
Nice, but TOO top heavy 🤢
SO MANY will never buy this Africa, because they CAN'T lift it - if dropped. Their prettyy much USELESS ( unless upgraded, until it costs like the Africa...) TRANS - also top heavy, no CC, crappy tubed wheels.....
We prefer the NC750X - IF it's PROPERLY updated : CC, tubeless-spoked wheels, proper suspension, C-ABS, TFT with connect.... Till Hondas' "smart" management computes in their heads, that they should invest in their BEST bike concept - Honda is NOT interesting ! 🤷♂
What puncture tool is that?
Dynaplug Pro Xtreme. Slightly more expensive than the Stop&Go that I have that Touratech sell.
im stuck between this bike and the KTM 890r... honda i would say is more reliable but the KTM is lighter and should be better offroad
The 890 Adventure R is way better off road. Just not even in the same category. The Africa Twin is a lot better on the road for touring.
The 2024 year is without doubt the ugliest AT ever !
Sadly, the US market doesn't get the red-white-and-blue color scheme in the standard Africa Twin.
why is he on the wrong side of the road? that VERY dangerous!😮
Great video… I own a 2021 DCT standard Africa Twin and was close to pulling the trigger on a DCT Adventure sport last year… so glad I didn’t the new standard bike with DCT And electronic suspension is definitely going to be my next bike… not that fussed about the adventure sports bigger tank as mine gets 200-220 miles per the tank anyway
Last weekend a road was closed unexpectedly, i had range anxiety after the extra 2.5 hr detour. It was at that moment I knew I fed up😂
Still the best looking ADV bike imo, and also gives the option of a DCT.
Vs the Tenere 700 and Tenere 700 world raid looks?
Can you do something on the best tyre plugging kit as the one in this vid looks miles better than the one I have Thanks
Finally, I get to see the Base model. I bought one in Canada and it’s coming in May but nobody’s making videos about the base. It’s always about the adventure. I really wish you touched more on the windscreen because I’m 6 foot tall so I’m curious if it’s adequate enough sports.
It sounds like you’ll be finding out soon, enough!
ruclips.net/video/fGrUZA35AMQ/видео.html - Honda Africa Twin 1100 long term ownership review. Best ADV in 2024. Africa Twin 2024.
My biggest issue with all these bikes is long term what will the Tech be like after countless dirt road vibrations, falls, water, dirt, dust I generally keep my bikes 10 years will the Tech and instrument cluster hold up to the abuse for that long?? Can anyone answer that??
I would imagine none of us can answer that seeing as none of us have a crystal ball.
Ye I can answer that, I have my Africa twin 1100 since 2020, I have clocked 60k miles on it, everything works still as the day I bought it 4 years ago.
All the tech and electronics work , it's been through lots of rainy days so it has a few rust spots but nothing that is of any concern,mostly paint chipping off.
I dropped it in mud a few times,not too much cause I didn't really take it through mud like a dirt bike but did many gravels and soft dirt roads, many many motorways miles and lots of city ride too.
That's an average of 15k miles a year on it, it's bulletproof.
Undoubtedly the best looking adventure bike, 100%. Finally tubeless wheels and Apple CarPlay is superb, just one thing Honda, where do I put my phone? Bluetooth dongle works brilliantly with the AT’s Apple CarPlay, why the hell do all the other manufacturers fit huge tft’s, and not utilise Apple CarPlay and Android alternative. 👍
A TFT without CarPlay rally is missing the mark in 2024. IMO Honda has stolen a march on everyone when it comes to actual liveability there with the dual display. Very, very well done.
Why bother showing all the desert shots .. no one will he doing that. 😮 ...lets get real Where is the Starbucks mode ? 😂...
I was watching the comparison video between 2023 and 2024 models and this video popped up!!
A wonderful machine. Versatile, modern, traditional and fun to drive. I'll pick mine up from the showroom soon.
When are you doing a African twin vs the motabillity scooter
Those early Africa Twins, with round headlights, still look the best.
The big question: Should I switch from my 2023 Yamaha Tracer 9 GT to a African Twin?
We are planning a trip from Gran Canaria, Morocco and up through Europe to Denmark.
Fantastic review. This is my new favourite motorbike 👏☺️
Wish they'd release a 450/500cc crf adventure.
I cant recognize any of it unless you compaire the bike to a bike lige a GS.
The AT is slow on the road and unprecise offroad, on top of that the quality of the wiring and electronics is even worse than the bmw
An AT is slow on road? Hardly. Compared to the BMW granted it's final drive won't grenade, the spoked wheels won't go loose, the gearbox won't self destruct, the forks won't fall apart and unlike the latest GS you won't need to re-torque the big end cap bolts. Honda really need to up their game!
@@BikingChap , we have had a lot of issues with the 2023 at,
Interesting, how many have you owned?
@@Africatwinrider1 , none, I've worked on a lot of them and would never buy a product from that manufacturer
@@gbjoo8 fair play but they're still one of the better ones. BMW have some real horror stories with each new model.
This is the best adventure bike...
Honestly it is great bike . In my opinion not for heavy off-road. Great that now has 19. Inch. I have done on older one more then 150000 km and it is good . As I mentioned to expensive i case fall. Crash bars help if you just drop it.
Tubeless tyre with spoked rims? sounds nice
Really like the tubeless wheel setup and the rims look amazing! Of the three colours I prefer the white and if possible would spend the extra for the suspension upgrade. But would settle for the base model.
0:30 bit unfair to leave your other vehicle outside isnt it?
Hi. If you must to choose in between DCT or electronic suspension what you choose? I ask this because with two future together the price increase to much! Great job I love your channel!
DCT.
thank you
I would say es
Can the ride modes be changed on the fly?
Yes indeed.
Really hoping you’ll review the new Adventure Sports model.
Can you put these wheels on a Transalp given they are 18 and 21 inches, the same size.? Expensive I’m sure but means I’d keep my Transalp for a long time which would be much cheaper than replacing it. Even had conflicting answers from the Honda sales team, but that may have been before this iteration.
I go with my friend who has a new AT on all the dirt roads, off road camping...I prefer my Ducati Multi V4S which does everything the AT does but i feel better. 🤭🤫 Dont tell him that. We both dropped our bikes cause he had the bright idea to stop on a steep incline, i was to close and he ended up rolling back into me taking us both down like bowling pins. With all my tech bits nothing broke and everything still worked. Got a few scrapes which i like having on the bike showing everyone what a bad ass i am. ;) Im bias.
When i selected my adventure bike i made sure i rode them all. And i did. I rode the AT, GS, Tiger's, Tenere, i opted not to do KTM because i loath the way they look. If it were the best id hate walking up to it. I took the Duc because it was the most comfortable ergo, AND ride quality. Super soft if you want, nice and hard if you need it, fantastic sport which none of the others offer, and capable off roading. Like i said i ride off road and on w/ this lots of moto camping, it has the chops to do it all. Heated grips AND seat, radar cruise, quick shifter, rev match i mean it does do it all. The others did some or most but not all of that. On top of that the next best GS was not as comfortable in the ride quality! Im splitting hairs here but if I'm dropping 30k on a bike I'm gonna SPLIT HAIRS. Brand aside i was biased and came away buying the duc and loving it for it.
Is this the one that has a lower seat height? That was my main reason for not test riding previous models.
can you give us more detail on this :)
Losing the 21” is a huge mistake. A 19” is better on road but definitely worse on serious off-roading.
I wish they wouldn't break up the AFRICA TWIN name on the fairing. It's like a broken puzzle. Now I would go with the optioned base model too.
Lol
Off-road? Africa twin?
Take caterpillar trucks , they will also go through mud.
250kilo bike , an off-roader?
Is it fitted with an up-and-down quick shifter? I am so used to using one, it would be a backward step to not have one. Yes! I'm lazy.
buy it with DCT. ;)
Shame we don't get the NT 1100 in the U.S. would be a great commuter/touring bike. (Commute in the U.S. can be 15 miles each way or 50+) I agree that the Africa Twin is good looking for an ADV, second favorite would be a Desert X.
I’m considering trading my Tenere 700 for one of these exact models. I do love the Tenere but most of my riding is on the road where sometimes I feel the Teneres 72hp is a little lacking. Time for a test ride I think
Same here! And now i have tried the KTM 1290 Adventure, it was something else!
I thinking the same! Had the tenere fourth season.
Es But i Don’t know about dct?
Must try ! Love the tenere But 80% road i think the AT is a better bike🇸🇪
Couldn’t agree more……but I felt that way in 2016 when it first came out….then again in 2018 with the ADV Sports model. Honda blew it in 2020 until this updated 2024 IMHO, seemed too unfocused until this model. I could go on but aside from a wee more power and less weight in the future, this new ones in basic form would be my pic. Nice review Bob. 🖖
Awesome video! So which one has only DCT? Best!
CarPlay/Android Auto should be available on so many more bikes. And tubeless tires for the win. Wish it had a touch more HP but otherwise, great mid/large ADV option.
Why more power? It already limits the maximum speed to avoid risking the tires.
If you haven't ridden one, go for it, as it seems more powerful than others that claim the same or more power.
What other big trail mirrors your cell phone on the dashboard ?
Power is moooooore than enough. That thing is fast. Low end torque is much more important.
100 hp is more than you need
Lol
Thanks for another awesome review. I just can't get my head around the 19" front on the Adventure. Down here in Africa and probably Aus we need fuel range. So the Adventure model would be the default for proper overlanding. BMW or Honda, same option for both. Who love fuel bladders 😮 So why would you buy the larger fuel tank bike if you not planning to do proper overlanding? If you gonna do proper overlanding you need a 21" front. This is the same as Land Rover fitting out a old Defender with road tyres and suspension as factory and trying to sell you a Discovery as the most capable model.
So please tell me which other “proper overlanding” bike has 21” front wheel?
Hi sir can make a comparison between the honda africa twin and ducati desert x thx
Riding with one hand, like many other motorbike reviewers? Organ donor in the making.
Adventure bikes suck offroad, ur limited to pavement and hard dirt flat roads.
Off the stand, the bike is so top heavy. That fact has always put me off, the otherwise brilliant Africa Twin. As a side note, that tripod on your back, whilst riding, is not a good idea, being a big liability, for back injuries, if you have a fall. Thanks, for your excellent reviews.
higher ground Clearance gives *beneficial higher center of gravity = better handling above walking speed
Would really love Honda to make a 1300cc shaft driven adv bike
I am not familiar with shaft driven bikes. What would be the advantage behind it?
@@ryanfrancis5423 less cleaning and maintenance. I've never ridden one but hate dealing with a chain
If someone not liking Honda Africa twin than he is not a bike Rider or he is a nuts
What do you think, does completely new model coming next year? Or to buy actual. Regards from Serbia
And is rear brake on hand or down? Is it possible to bi on hand, i have xadv 750 2023 and I used to use hand brake
The worst switch gear, in the world! Probably.
Excellent review. On to the NT1100 review. Hope it comes to the States.
The bike is more than amazing, but there's something else I'd like to ask you: What is the name of the model of boots you are using at 2:28? Thank you so much for your time and answer.
Icon 1000 Elsinore :)
Me and my wife picked up 2 one dct and one manual the 2024 is awesome I'm glad we brought the twins home
Can you please let us know which one of the two versions worth it more for you DTC or Manual?
2024 Africa Twin or the Ducati DesertX? I know, I know. Different engine size, blah, blah. But priced almost the same in USA. Please compare.
Africa twin of course,more tech, much higher reliability, engine is a gem.
How have the Honda version of the perimeter tubeless spoked wheels held up on the AS model? I always wanted this on my 2016 and then experienced very early failure on the european bike that I replaced it with that had the perimeter spoke design. Are Honda's tubeless spoke wheels up to serious offroading?
Carry tubes and tools when going on an adventure on an adventure bike
@simonportlock586 after converting my Africa Twin to tubeless using an Outex Kit I did just that. Luckily I never had to use it. I still preferred a quick plug and go that tubeless gives me and kept the tube as an emergency measure only. With this new Africa Twin and its perimeter spoke design, my concern stands with the easily damaged wheel. They can be expensive, as I have learned the hard way.
Looking forward to the Mobility scooter review LOL!
Looks great 😍
Those tires for ATAS are super loud!
So this is not the adventure sport ? This is the base with es ?
what kind of jacket do you have on?
I just bought one of the last 2023 models available at a bargain price, probably be able to keep it a year & get my money back 👊✊️✊️
Couldn't agree more. Lots of people complaining about the 19" front on the Adventure Sport, but in 2024 Honda have simply given you the best of both worlds. I have a 2023 Adventure Sport, but if I was going again, it would be the base model with ES and I would probably stay with the DCT as well. Maintains the offroad focus of the base model (without compromising it in any way), but with options for all the goodies that were only previously available on the Adventure Sport.
I'm about to buy an africa twin. Maybe you can help me with your opinion. Should I get a 2023 adv sports or a 2024 base model? I like the 21 inch wheel.
What helmet are you wearing there mate?
I looooveee the bike i just hate the amount of buttons on it
anyone know the jacket he is wearing???
The only thing I dislike is the low RPM engine
dessert x?
It’s also the best sounding adv bike out there. Of course any parallel twin with a 270° crank is. I have a 2017 still absolutely love it. I have an Ohlins shock and Ohlins internals in the forks but it makes me wonder how easy electronic suspension is to service. I’m debating getting a new AT in the next year or two.
So does the electronic suspension give you automatic height adjustment? As I’m 5’8 “ that would be pretty handy. Previously owned a Honda XLV750 with shaft drive.
Bro got a t7 but want this AT so badly
Thanks for your very well-balanced review. Just watched it again and the following thoughts have surfaced for me. The 2024 Africa Twin is an incredible improvement on the release of the 2020 model when it was upgraded to the current 1,084cc motor. The torque has increased and is much smoother and more measured in its deployment from zero to high rpm. It really is a pearler of a twin motor with a great traditional 'twin' sound with the upgraded 2024 muffler. I'm a fan and a Honda tragic from way back and can hardly wait to own one. I would very much like to buy the '25 model next year.
HOWEVER, Honda will NOT be getting my money until at least some or all of the following glitches/negatives are resolved:
1) The atrociously long time it takes to boot the TFT screen and THEN it requires a touch on an 'OK' button before giving you access. WTF Honda?! No other manufacturers spoil the ride experience like this so WTF Honda?!
2) The switchgear needs an overhaul - simplify it AND include backlighting
3) An easy way to get the seat height BELOW 800mm. Please don't try to tell me it can't be done Honda. I'm 5'6" (167cm) and I would like to be able to flatfoot. 795mm seat height is a worthy goal Honda.
4) For the top-of-the-line model (mainly road use owners) ditch those ridiculous spoked wheels and give us some tasteful forged cast aluminium wheels. Cleaning spokes is an absolute nightmare. We already have enough cleaning with the chain drive, so, please Honda - some alloys.
5) For two-up touring it most definitely needs some more power. They should either bump the capacity to 1250cc for another 30hp OR, preferably, finally release the supercharged model on which they hold a Japanese patent and as such has been in development since 2019. One would think that simply in the name of competition with the Multistradas, GS1300s, Triumphs et al, Honda would want to increase the power at least somewhat. It is great for low speed stuff but 2-up with luggage on the highway it does need quite a bit more. Please! (from all reports the supercharger design is for low-mid range torque - not meant to be a high-rev Kawasaki H2 competitor).
6) Not mandatory for my purchase but, with DCT, a reverse gear for parking such a heavy baby would be handy. You'd only need 'impulse power' Scotty :-)
7) Does that great sounding rear muffler really have to be the size of a boat anchor?
So there's my list of gripes for a bike I love a lot. My wishlist. How about it Honda - all for '25?
Fitted the new Michelin Anakee Road tyres to my 2024 tubeless AT ….. if you don’t go off road best tyres ever!!!
Why what’s wrong with stock. Karoo streets if what I’m getting. Garbage ?
@@TheZakkmylde They’re fine but the Michelin Anakee roads are better. If you’re happy with them keep them and perhaps consider the Michelins when you need new tyres.
you missed, you can have dct. its brilliant. imho
Yeah, the DCT is the largest selling point. With DCT, this is the best commuter bike I've ever owned.
Does it have heated grips as standard?
Got 2019 ATAS in tricolor the curvy model... new 2024 tricolor adventure looks like a dachshund with this 19" rim....lost its character for me
Bummer that that the US market cannot get the Electronic Suspension on the base Africa Twin, only available on the Adventure Sports in ‘24
MOTOBOB What is your Height? and the Seat Height of the New 2024 Africa Twin? Thank you! :) I'm 5'8 and looking for my 1st bigbike :)
Amazing bike not sure I would be happy trashing such and expensive bike on adventure trails. Most of us can afford only 1 bike theses days it’s not the 80s when you had an XR650 a Ducati Monster and a Harley
Love the blogs thanks so much. Partner Kids home loan dogs car and bike that’s the highrachy if you as the account it’s probably dogs kids home loan partner note no motor vehicle is on the list 😂
Fantastic bike, but its probably coming to an end for this "generation" AT? Just guessing, but since the upgrades for 2024 its gonna be some years before a new AT. Im waiting hopefully for a bigger engine upgrade.
Not being able to ride a 2024 AT 1100 and really wanting to, this is a question for MotoBob or others who have ridden both of my candidates for the next bike, would you buy a 2024 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro or this 2024 Africa Twin with the suspension upgrade plus some other goodies? Thanks for your input.
Only improvement worthwhile over my '21 Standard with DCT I miss are the new tubeless rims. I HATE tubes!!!
ATAS with 6-speed and 21” front wheel. Oh, they don’t make it anymore…ok, I’m outta here.
First price would probably be a " S " model with a 19" front. A offroad biased model with a 21" and then the Adventure model with a 21" .
Tubeless tires are all great and fun, until you get a hit to your rims and bend them! All the plugs of the world won’t be enough to fix that! And these alloy rims crack, bend and break like there’s no tomorrow!
Do they make a 500cc version? No solo adventure bike should be over 900cc, best if under 700cc.