The Silver Purpose - Renown 12 Valdrakken Accord [Lore]
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Four major factions party on the dragon isles. Each with their own renown to get and some with stories/quests to complete. Today we're going to dive into 'The Silver Purpose', the renown story given at renown 12 for the Valdrakken Accord.
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15:52 Alexstraza maintains an accusatory glare in the direction of Nozdormu, who puts his hands behind his back, lifts himself up onto his tiptoes and back down several times while looking away and whistling.
The voice actor is really channelling his inner Orson Welles for those fragmented data entries
GLAD im not the only one there
I still believe that we will create Galakrond through Iridikron and some weird form of Magic (perhaps decay) and that the creation of Galakrond will trigger Murozonds creation somehow.
I always thought Galakrond was too chaotic and suspected the old gods.
I mean, Odyn wasn’t really wrong about the dragon aspects. 4/5 of them have, or will, turn evil and attack us
not like the keepers have been particularly any better on that front lol
LOKEN and all the ulduar guardians got dunked on by Yogg. Odyn is a piece of shit. Tyr's dead. Ra got dunked on by Nzoth and Lei shen. And we murder hoboed the two guardians of uldaman lmao
Love your videos!
I kind of feel like Blizzard don't even know they have that lore about Galakrond and the dragon eggs.
I realized something when doing this story stuff in Tyrhold when seeing memories with Tyr. Neltharion has a human visage, same in the legacies shorts. But humans didn't exist then, right? They where created much later by being runts of the vrykul.
I suppose, but the titans also look quite human, and maybe that could be the explanation as to why they take a "human" form? I don't know. Good point.
In the legacies stories tou could say he looks like a vrykul. Pretty big and because the art style you can't tell what the skin is like, for me at least in his armour he looks something in between. The in game I think it's because he might have used that visage to infiltrate human society and it was shown us to be him, in other in game cinematics.
Just consistency inside in game models I believe
The truth of tyr and galakarond will be revealed to the aspects in the future I believe.
And will make a conflict between aspects as do we must fight the primals or not.
This expansion story is nice
*WARNING* for those who care, my comment contains (several months old at this point, but nonetheless) spoilers referencing datamined information regarding a future patch of Dragonflight
It's interesting that Ysera's model in the flashback is not the updated one (that we know exists) like Alexstraza and Nozdormu. I'm curious why they chose to use the old one. If I had guess, I'd say either a) they didn't have the model rendered at the time that this quest was finalized and shipped or b) they chose not to use the new model intentionally to avoid blatantly tipping their hand about Ysera's return; without knowledge of the datamined cutscene, the fact that Ysera's model in this quest is not updated would lead me to believe that she would not be returning to play a part in DF. Just an observation.
Also as a side note, very cool to see Malygos in his visage form! Only time we've seen his model in-game aside from the Yogg encounter if I'm not mistaken?
I think another reason is that, the model we have of her now is different than what it would have been canonically back then. Kinda like why we don’t use Janina’s BFA model in Wrath zones. Ysera’s new model has very noticeable ardenweald changes which would not have happened the 10000+ years ago that this scene takes place. Of corse, it could be a combination of a few, only the devs know.
@@samuelhellewell2880 - And yet they didn't think to use Alexstrasza's old model along with it. Sigh...
There is actually a story reason why she's using her old model here. I won't go into spoilers though.
@@nikolasoc9595 - So it's NOT the story reason Samuel thought of?
@@mokarokas-1727 The difference is that, at least as the devs want it now, Alexstraza has, more or less, always looked like her current model lore wise as seen in the legacies cinematics. So for her, makes total sense that she would look the same. She didnt really go through the changes that Ysera went through or anything simular. Same reason why most of the core races in zones made before Wod dont look like they do in classic.
Theory: Definitely feels like Koranos might be a portion of Tyr. Sindragosa's simulacrum sort of foreshadows that entities adept in arcane magic can reproduce copies of themselves and "store" these individual versions of themselves in various objects. Sort of like how the mage spell Mirror Image works. It's like WoW expansions. Keeper Tyr is Vanilla Classic stored on the Legion client. Koranos is Dragonflight - it's a version of Tyr that closely monitors the Dragonflight's discoveries and might gently push them in the direction of restoring Classic Tyr. It would fit with Tyr's personality, keeping secrets away from even Nozdormu through magic enchantments.
For what purpose, we've yet to see, but perhaps Koranos-Tyr is content in examining how the Dragonflight has progressed even with their divine aspect powers stripped away from them. He wants to monitor from afar in case the worse case scenario occurs: that without the Titan's order influence, dragons revert back to their primal forms and perhaps become corrupted by the Void. Basically, Koranos-Tyr has only recently awoken from his slumber and wants to catch-up on the WoW lore since his time. If we're to believe that all the other Keepers eventually fell to corruption, OG Tyr might've kept multiple copies of himself dormant for security reasons. Like restoring a backup of your software to a previous date if your PC was hit with malware. Modern Blizz plays it fast and loose with it's sci-fi emulating a lot of concepts we know such as 3D printing or data storage.
Koranos seemed pretty pro-active in the Dragonflight trailer, though.
But the Titans will would be the will of the 'Universe' in the sense that they are an emanation/essence of the first light. How are renown quests better than baseline lore! They did this on purpose to please basic zugs. AMAZING vid, keep this vids coming, sadly most wont go through this lore.
I think "most" is an overstatement. Sure, maybe "most" people only go through the leveling experience or play in previous expansions and ignore most of the end-game, I don't know. But most people who actually play the current content of WoW would naturally unlock renown quests as time goes on, especially on a low renown level like 12.
Regarding the titans, it's stated that elementals and all other early life is also seeded by the Light, and this would include the Incarnates since dragons and proto-dragons are descended from elementals. So for all the different forces seeded by the Light in the universe, I think it's wrong to say the titans alone should represent it.
You know, it's kinda weird that Tyr referes to Proto-dragons as Proto-dragons before dragons as we know them even exists.
Indeed! It goes to show how little thought goes into some of this stuff...
I thought because he was at it's inception he would know what is what
Small mistake. Ra-Den was appointed leader by the titans. He went to care for the southern half of the planet by himself and during his absence, the watchers voted Odyn to be the "prime designate". He was not chosen to rule by divine will but by democracy and took to it as he would take to crack.
Edit. Looks like I misread. It was indeed the pantheon that elected Odyn the prime designate.
That's not how I remember it from the Chronicle. Ra-Den was indeed the leader, but wasn't Odyn chosen as Prime Designate by the titans as recognition for his exceptional war exploits against the Old Gods?
'The pantheon appointed odyn the prime designate for his valorous deeds in the war with the old gods." Chronicles volume 1?
Eh. Some things just don't really need to be said. The dragons are pretty much servants of titans. They don't just get use their power and make use of their constructs and go "we still have a choice in how we want to run our own affairs right?"
Why do I have the sudden thought that at one point the Infinite will someone bring back Galakrond one way or another to Azeroth and make him the final big baddie of the expansion.
@@TheOriginalCameron And just repeat the cycle we supposedly ended at Cataclysm ? eeeh maybe, they're too dumb to figure out a decent excuse to do so
@@TheOriginalCameron - If a leak also contained lots of false information, you can't take any of it as fact until it's actually confirmed.
@@TheOriginalCameron - "hehe" no.
Dragonflight covenants, new allied race as preorder bonus, and release date in Q1 2023. Almost half the "leak" (3/8 points) was incorrect.
@@TheOriginalCameron - lol, excuse me? You can't just say "they were GOING to do it like that" and think more lies will solve the first lie.
And it's spelled Dracthyr.
@@TheOriginalCameron - Because you don't KNOW. You treat and present it like fact, but like you said: it's only "commonly suspected". I don't "clutch tightly" to one thing, I'm pointing out that nearly half the things were wrong - right after you lied and said the leak only "contained that information" that was correct.
And then you lied again when you said what happened to the covenant plans and such, because you're actually only speculating.
Guess what, buddy? Lying doesn't age like fine wine, even if parts of your speculation might turn out to be right. And the "leak" would still be just as wrong. ;)
My god the Orson Welles is strong with Tyr
Tyr will be final Boss of the expansion and keeper will be a boss as well, Mark my words!
I hope we get a reveal about the Titans being the subjugators of Azeroth, and when the Aspects do regain their power it isn't from the Titans but from Azeroth's world soul, as her chosen defenders.
I hope you realize that Tyr didn't act completely according to Titan's decree. And that Tyr's whole persona was to uplift others for the greater good. There are a lot of unknowns at the moment regarding the whole upcoming story whether Titans bad vs Primalists good and vice versa. But come on, seriously? :D
fun fact: Tyr has same voice as NZoth... connection?
The connection is... same voice actor, Darin de Paul.
What if Tyr's memories are all corrupted by the old gods? Or he isn't as "good" as we assume him to be mmm
The renown quests is first then the raid.
How do u explain Razagath being alive ?
Hmm where do they mention Razaget still being alive? The getting powers back is in line with having to face the new incarnates.
@@Nobbel87 after you fix that silver forge and get new Tyr body. Alextraza tries use the bacon and fails which Raza appeared and said you failed all on your own and kick started the raid event.
The quest chain starts with her showing you the player that silver thingy which she asked the keeper about what to expect in tyr hold. Alextraza never been there.
I can't bite on the fact the titans order is not good, or there is grey morality and such.
Azeroth has a dormant soul in it, so all their actions are for the good of the soul which is their interest. Likewise if the soul is tended to by the Titans systems then the world gives back by being stable and working properly.
For us titans are the good people, against their interest or following another primordial order(light, void, chaos,life and death) would be fighting against Azeroth and dooming the world regardless of pointless "freewill" discourse
@justinb7494 the life of random beings is quite irrelevant in this scenario if they could mean the very world perishes with them. I understand like illidan there are more than one way to go about it. But in a vacuum their way is the way, I think the opposing faction gets little sympathy because of that. We are also at a third expac where Azeroth in the center piece of why you do what you do
So why does the projection of Tyr have both hands normal and intact? Like this is him shortly after the creation of the aspects, which means his hand would have already been removed. Even if he has his silver hand attached, it's stated this hand was permanently closed - a simple prosthetic, and both of his hands here are fully articulated.
The answer is actually quite simple, and can be summarized in three words: WoW's writers lulzors.
@@mokarokas-1727 i don't think wow writers are in charge of designing the models
@@ultravioletcatastrophe - There must be some input though, since they used the old Ysera model in order to not show her Ardenweald marks.
So Tyr did a Sauron/Voldemort?
Exp end boss confirmed?
I was gonna say. ancient mysterious dude create a loyal army of servants (dragons) and then sets into motion his own resurrection when there's so acknowledgement that they are thriving....
Pretty sus
I find it weird that there is no representative on Valdrakken council for the Greens. While I understand why Black Dragonflight is not present (Big S and Lil' W having their dick measuring contest) it seems weird to not have Merithra or any other important Green Dragon on the council. Am I the only one?
A recent (controversial) lore development is probably going to rectify that very soon. =)
@@mokarokas-1727 you mean the next Valdrakken accord rep quest? 🤔
@@jsmth99 - I don't know the order they appear in, but it concerns the leadership of the "Greens", as it were.
Is it just me, or does Tyr sound like N'zoth?
Whould it noy be fun to accidentally put the wrong titan keeper's mind into the body? Imagine if we put loken in there...
Oh no, or the Jailer's xD
Nobbel I feel like when you get to it you will like/love the renown 19 garden of secrets questline
My friend, what sort of depraved degeneracy have you partaken in to reach renown 19 already. That's incredible. Lol
@@NateLyell Well being a human helps, and then one evening I was just randomly farming keys in obsidian citadel, while in a discord call and got wrathion to true friend and sabelion to friend, but my iskaara tuskar renown is only at like 8 so anything where I could choose who to give it to, I chose valdrakken or the centaurs.
order and decay humm , looks like a future expansion after dragonflight.
or light vs void.
@@arbenzotaj8342 it can be as well friend
Memba when Legion hinted at Void in Mac'acree or whatever it's called now?
Until I see it I never suspect anything
If they make the Titans/Tyr the unquestionable heroes of this expansion's storyline, I don't know... I might just be done at that point? That would be the single most boring conclusion to this story.
"do we share what we found in uldaman" ya thats the issue i have with the writing team we do not know what the characters know which makes the story awkward b.c we know to much about them but we say....nothing?Our characters are just dumb drones and that is what makes wow sometimes really dumb, we are just drones. they need better writers and smarter devs to put this stuff in..but that would require hiring for talent and not to save money..a big blizz no no
btw I thought the reason why titans and titan made things were "better" is b.c they are not flesh so they could not be corrupted by void....
i feel like......Og Tyr vs Neo Tyr is going to be a thing.....
OG Tyr exploded, though.
@@mokarokas-1727 Did he? Were we, or a reliable NPC there to witness it? (i plain out dont remember him exploding)
@@TheJacob232 - I mean, it depends on what you consider reliable, but Ironaya and Archaedas saw his sacrificial explosion from a distance after fleeing from two C'thraxxi, and went back to confirm the kill and pick up his silver hand (source: Chronicle). Later we fought them both as bosses in Uldaman. Buuut since the writers have pulled an "old lore was just misinformation" several times before, anything is possible...
@@mokarokas-1727 yea Chronicle itself has been thrown into question over the past few years. To be completely honest i've felt that the 'Silver Hand' stuff was heavy propaganda since pre-wrath so I'm kinda hoping he isn't dead
you have no choice as a solo to do these quests as there is still no LFR Raid, just WB bearly more then Shadowlands had in open world.
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