nah i play most mmo or fps but i multi task a lot steam or record and game or 2 at same time am happy with it but still dont now if worth it @@theivadim
AMD for a long time now. Intel for my very first rig a decade ago but may change based on performance/market conditions. More info below. Been AMD since my first Gaming PC build with an i5-6600K died 1 month after the 1-year warranty period at the time. Went to a FX-8350 from a friend that kindly dono'd the older build he had to me. Had a Sapphire R7 260X and lived with that build for 2 years before building my 2nd PC. Ryzen 5 3600X with a MSI 5700XT. Wanted 1080 ti tier performance give or take 5% perf. Unsure of the exact time thinking back on it. Went to a 5950X and an ASRock OC 6950 XT. Then upgraded 1 month ago to a 7800X3D and an ASRock Taichi 7900 XTX. I always try to factor in price/perf ratios and a performance leap as soon as generations of CPU and GPU release. Dangerous but I like to have the "best" as soon as I can. I'm thinking of swapping to NVIDIA next GPU cycle due to RDNA4 being reportedly without a HALO/Top-End stack of products. I just wonder if AMD is going to lose more drive and market share due to increasing competition from Intel and NVIDIA. It's great being a price/perf style of buyer but with increasing Ray Tracing Demands and NVIDIA features, it's getting hard to stick with AMD there. Just makes me wonder if Intel is going to bite back enough in consumer CPUs to warrant switching over to them in the farer future.
Anyone that offers the best bang for the buck. I started with an i5 10400 for my first build then upgraded it to a 10900k down the line with a 7900xt. Its served me well playing both sides!
Thanks, but tbh, nothing matters until we get the proper independent benchmarking, and see the actual prices. Anyone who runs a 12th gen intel LGA1700 mb, with a cpu up to 12600k, might well find a great value upgrade deal in the 14th gen intel cpus. Especially if their RAM is DDR4. 15th gen might be amazing at the highest levels, but it'll need new mb & DDR5 RAM, so an extremely expensive choice, if simply upgrading your existing LGA1700 kit will provide everything you need for the next several years.
So what I'm planning is to get a 15th gen when it drops in price after 16th gen releases (for around $350) for my GTA 6 PC. what do you think about this idea.
Right now it looks like both Intel and AMD will be highly competitive in the CPU space over the next few years. However, with Intel's recent underwhelming releases (14th gen and Meteor Lake) I'll have to see it to believe it. Intel's next generation could easily fall short of even conservative expectations in terms of performance.
Late 2026 17th Gen Nova Lake true next gen cpus to anything from last few years. 17700 is supposed to have a 144mb cache. That's true next gen. Current strong cpus only have 20-35mb cache. If your cpu is really old getting anything beyond a 12700k-13600k now is a waste of money.
yeah tbh I’m just now looking at all these lakes man, I’ve been laptop basically since birth but I need a desktop to replace the old intel core i5 5200U 😭💀 stupid ahh all in ones can’t do shit for gaming and video editing and just all around everything tasks except maybe Macs but ehh intel core i5 13600k looks interesting tho it surely must be a beast in 2024 right?
@@rafaelacash7 12600K or 13600K would be 600-800 percent faster than that old I5 it's really about how cheap you can find them. Amazon you can find 12600K/motherboard/DDR4 32GB/cpu fan for 350 bucks that would be a fantastic bang for buck. Go for 12600k then get 17th gen Nova Lake(2026) for cheap in 2028-2029. or just wait till late 2026 and get 17600k or 17700k new.
im still on my i7 8700k... i do alot of surfing, illustrator and photoshop , it still is very good - i dont even have a gpu the uhd 630 can play most games i like on low resoultion... i think the next cpu im getting will be 15th or 16th gen...
Then you should be happy that the integrated graphics on the next generation will be much better than what you have now. Why don't you go for a laptop with an even nicer integrated graphics instead of desktop? That's what I did to do my work. It is very nice to be able to move around the house or go work outside instead of being stuck at the desk.
@@theivadim im almost 40... i had a couple laptops before never really was happy... last laptop i had was the surfacebook pro - i sold it after 3 month... i know they changed alot too but im working alot with creative cloud and blender and a laptop just isnt right for me.... i need my mouse and my wacom :D i got me a ipad pro m2 last year for drawing and stuff , its nice but i still sit a t my desktop all the time :D only thing i want to still test is a macbook air sometime in the future...
hi i am thinking of upgrading my cpu from 12th gen to 14th gen is it worth upgrading for gaming i play on a 32" monitor at 1440p mosply play fs2020 and age of empiers 3
I wonder why Intel's Cpus 14th gen aren't at 5nm or even 7nm but use 10th nm; right there that would boost speed and less power. Intel own fabs are limited to 7 or 10nm... but Intel could still go to TSMC or Samsung.... who can do 5nm. Just wondered....
For 2026 will arrive new generation, with radical change of architecture, vlwi for all, and new a big surprise, sse on new itanium architecture. Core 16.
I think - no. If you weren't compelled to upgrade to the 13900K then there is no reason to consider the 14900K either. I'd keep enjoying that 12900K and see what 15th gen will bring.
You don't need a bigger case and AIO. If you're limited by the thermals.... just lower the maximums. 13900K in particular is much better than 12900K at lower power draws. If you actually needed that much performance, to draw 300W constantly from the CPU, you wouldn't have asked here if it's worth the upgrade. And 14900K might be another significant improvement of performance at lower power draws (125W or lower). Still, in general, if you can't put your finger on what you NEED, then you shouldn't upgrade. Some people are still perfectly fine and very well serviced by 9900K.
IMHO that'd be a sensible choice, depending on the price. Motherboards are reasonably priced, the platform is stable at this point and my experience with the 13th gen platform (I upgraded from an ancient Haswell platform) is very positive so far.
If you've yet to do so, try bumping your clocks up to 5GHz (or as close as you can). 7700k OCs nicely. I'd personally recommend holding out until 15th Gen unless you _need_ the extra cores.
your fascinated and excited with cpu advancement related to gaming limitations. You forgot the other side of the equation. How this break neck advancement is also helping the evil AI being used to destroy ourselves. I can't wait till they develop drones that can take any shape, wait in my mailbox to take me out
Storage mostly, don't need 4GB/s PCIe lanes but I do need at least 64x at 1GB/s, that's mostly because of what hardware is available. My Asus Rampage board has 12x SATA 3 6gb ports which is a nice start, but 40 PCIe lanes gives me some NVMe drives and additional SATA as well.
Desktop? I would wait for the 14th. Grab a 13th gen if it is discounted (as it should be). Because otherwise you'll overpay for the 14th gen while not getting much more performance.
sounds like intel themselves isn't that confident on their 14th gen chip.. i wonder if we will see a lot of fail chips that make the system unstable in the future when people adopted the 14th gen cpu...
@@queenofstamford3141 no cpu upgrade above 10th gen is fully worth it until intel irons out their latency issues. Maybe only if you run a fat gpu above 4070/3080 at a lower resolution or if there's a need for many cores
AAA gaming is a waste of time so no need to upgrade. AAA gaming is unoptimised, clunky, with nested menu systems which along with the loading screens IS the game play. Quality games ended with 2077 and even that was a dumpster fire when released. The Starfield 4090 with current CPU narrative is BS.
Late 2026 17th Gen Nova Lake true next gen cpus to anything from last few years. 17700 is supposed to have a 144mb cache. That's true next gen. Current strong cpus only have 20-35mb cache. If your cpu is really old getting anything beyond a 12700k-13600k now is a waste of money.
@tanyaiamyourfather so you don't advise going for 14th gen whether i5 or i7 at the moment ? I have been considering a new cpu lately, might wait until 15th gen is out and buy a new one.
@@Jolly-Green-Steve I have an i5 9400f. Been using it for years now, a big change is all I am for. Looking at the power these new i7 processors consume, I am rethinking my options and doubting whether it's worthy or not. I saw the ryzen 7 7800X3D and it's very strong and uses less power than it's peer the i7. What do you think?
@@yousef9181 I always use userbenchmark website to compare cpu strengths. is your cpu giving you problems in anything? i have a 2600k so it sucks for video editing. if you have to upgrade now I would go with a 13600k because i don't think a 12600k is a big enough of a jump compared to your cpu even though it is amazing at low power/heat. I have never been a fan of AMD products because they always gave me issues with games/emulation but maybe they are better now. 15th gen and 17th gen intel is supposed to be huge jumps so I'd probably wait for those if I were you. I myself am probably gonna go 12600k then 17600k in 2026.
Intel7 is 10nm, which is almost twice area than actual7nm. Now intel4 may be a 5-6nm Chip as per intel naming scheme. f intel4 is only 20% efficient than 7 then it's just a naming thing. No actual improvement. TSMC4nm AMD chips gives twice performance per watt than intel in heavy power using apps . AMD4nm CPU and Nvidia 4nm is the best combo. For real intensive RTgaming and productivity usage with more lasting 🔋 than intel . AMD is yet to release 4nm APU with 16CU for iGPU for some real gaming and should be cheaper than intels SOC assemblage. It's good to see more competition but I'm skeptical about actual delivery of this intel4 on laptops.
Intel or AMD?
atm AMD am on 7700x with 4080 am happy with it think to change to 7800x3d but dunno
@@evilmonkey836 why are you thinking about changing to 7800X3D? For better Starfield performance?🙂
nah i play most mmo or fps but i multi task a lot steam or record and game or 2 at same time am happy with it but still dont now if worth it @@theivadim
AMD for a long time now. Intel for my very first rig a decade ago but may change based on performance/market conditions. More info below.
Been AMD since my first Gaming PC build with an i5-6600K died 1 month after the 1-year warranty period at the time. Went to a FX-8350 from a friend that kindly dono'd the older build he had to me. Had a Sapphire R7 260X and lived with that build for 2 years before building my 2nd PC. Ryzen 5 3600X with a MSI 5700XT. Wanted 1080 ti tier performance give or take 5% perf. Unsure of the exact time thinking back on it. Went to a 5950X and an ASRock OC 6950 XT. Then upgraded 1 month ago to a 7800X3D and an ASRock Taichi 7900 XTX. I always try to factor in price/perf ratios and a performance leap as soon as generations of CPU and GPU release. Dangerous but I like to have the "best" as soon as I can.
I'm thinking of swapping to NVIDIA next GPU cycle due to RDNA4 being reportedly without a HALO/Top-End stack of products. I just wonder if AMD is going to lose more drive and market share due to increasing competition from Intel and NVIDIA. It's great being a price/perf style of buyer but with increasing Ray Tracing Demands and NVIDIA features, it's getting hard to stick with AMD there. Just makes me wonder if Intel is going to bite back enough in consumer CPUs to warrant switching over to them in the farer future.
Anyone that offers the best bang for the buck. I started with an i5 10400 for my first build then upgraded it to a 10900k down the line with a 7900xt. Its served me well playing both sides!
Its Time to Dump that 13900K and RTX 4090 in the Dumpster...Nasty old tech can't run Starfield at 1080P.
lol
13900KS please
😂😂😂
So what's wrong with that game exactly?
@@xXxC0nSUm3rXxX1337 IMO Poopy Graphics
Thanks, but tbh, nothing matters until we get the proper independent benchmarking, and see the actual prices. Anyone who runs a 12th gen intel LGA1700 mb, with a cpu up to 12600k, might well find a great value upgrade deal in the 14th gen intel cpus. Especially if their RAM is DDR4. 15th gen might be amazing at the highest levels, but it'll need new mb & DDR5 RAM, so an extremely expensive choice, if simply upgrading your existing LGA1700 kit will provide everything you need for the next several years.
Does this mean that the motherboard with the LGA 1700 socket is not suitable for the new generation of CPU?
I wonder if Intels 15th gen & 16th gen will use the same sockets... like we have with the 13th & 14th gen :)
You can definitely count on the that next socket to support two CPU generations. So yeah, 15th and 16th should be on the same socket.
15900K.
RTX 5090.
What about AMD
So what I'm planning is to get a 15th gen when it drops in price after 16th gen releases (for around $350) for my GTA 6 PC. what do you think about this idea.
Right now it looks like both Intel and AMD will be highly competitive in the CPU space over the next few years. However, with Intel's recent underwhelming releases (14th gen and Meteor Lake) I'll have to see it to believe it. Intel's next generation could easily fall short of even conservative expectations in terms of performance.
Late 2026 17th Gen Nova Lake true next gen cpus to anything from last few years. 17700 is supposed to have a 144mb cache. That's true next gen. Current strong cpus only have 20-35mb cache. If your cpu is really old getting anything beyond a 12700k-13600k now is a waste of money.
yeah tbh I’m just now looking at all these lakes man, I’ve been laptop basically since birth but I need a desktop to replace the old intel core i5 5200U 😭💀 stupid ahh all in ones can’t do shit for gaming and video editing and just all around everything tasks except maybe Macs but ehh
intel core i5 13600k looks interesting tho it surely must be a beast in 2024 right?
@@rafaelacash7 12600K or 13600K would be 600-800 percent faster than that old I5 it's really about how cheap you can find them. Amazon you can find 12600K/motherboard/DDR4 32GB/cpu fan for 350 bucks that would be a fantastic bang for buck. Go for 12600k then get 17th gen Nova Lake(2026) for cheap in 2028-2029. or just wait till late 2026 and get 17600k or 17700k new.
im still on my i7 8700k... i do alot of surfing, illustrator and photoshop , it still is very good - i dont even have a gpu the uhd 630 can play most games i like on low resoultion... i think the next cpu im getting will be 15th or 16th gen...
Then you should be happy that the integrated graphics on the next generation will be much better than what you have now. Why don't you go for a laptop with an even nicer integrated graphics instead of desktop? That's what I did to do my work. It is very nice to be able to move around the house or go work outside instead of being stuck at the desk.
@@theivadim im almost 40... i had a couple laptops before never really was happy... last laptop i had was the surfacebook pro - i sold it after 3 month... i know they changed alot too but im working alot with creative cloud and blender and a laptop just isnt right for me.... i need my mouse and my wacom :D i got me a ipad pro m2 last year for drawing and stuff , its nice but i still sit a t my desktop all the time :D
only thing i want to still test is a macbook air sometime in the future...
My 14th Gen is on my desk. AI changes what people truly need as opposed to rich children who want to play games.
hi i am thinking of upgrading my cpu from 12th gen to 14th gen is it worth upgrading for gaming i play on a 32" monitor at 1440p mosply play fs2020 and age of empiers 3
No dude, don't upgrade now, wait till late 2024 or early 2025 as 14th Gen isn't a lot better
@@SC-kd5ln But the 13th gen is a lot better than 12th gen
Notepad really needs this performance uplift :-)
I wonder why Intel's Cpus 14th gen aren't at 5nm or even 7nm but use 10th nm; right there that would boost speed and less power. Intel own fabs are limited to 7 or 10nm... but Intel could still go to TSMC or Samsung.... who can do 5nm. Just wondered....
For 2026 will arrive new generation, with radical change of architecture, vlwi for all, and new a big surprise, sse on new itanium architecture. Core 16.
Intel needs to fix the Heat/Power Draw problem
You cant even get the max out of 13th gen without going with a custom loop and a delid
That they do, indeed.
This is false. People just don't know what they're doing.
I have a thermal right air cooler on mine… with no issues
i9-12900k worth the upgrade to i9-14900k ? im considering it ..thoughts ?
Nop
I think - no. If you weren't compelled to upgrade to the 13900K then there is no reason to consider the 14900K either. I'd keep enjoying that 12900K and see what 15th gen will bring.
@theivadim ya. Only reason I didn't go with the 13900k is I would've had to get a bigger case and aio. Which now I have.
NO!!! whait for 15 Gen, if u gona get the new Nvidia RTX 50 series GPUs!!!! RTX 50 series minimum is 15GEN arrow lake for intel MOBO
You don't need a bigger case and AIO. If you're limited by the thermals.... just lower the maximums. 13900K in particular is much better than 12900K at lower power draws. If you actually needed that much performance, to draw 300W constantly from the CPU, you wouldn't have asked here if it's worth the upgrade. And 14900K might be another significant improvement of performance at lower power draws (125W or lower).
Still, in general, if you can't put your finger on what you NEED, then you shouldn't upgrade. Some people are still perfectly fine and very well serviced by 9900K.
Intel Core i10 10gen👍
I got i7-7700K thinking about buying i7-14700K should I do it? Or looking for smth else. I buy pc for like 5years or more
IMHO that'd be a sensible choice, depending on the price. Motherboards are reasonably priced, the platform is stable at this point and my experience with the 13th gen platform (I upgraded from an ancient Haswell platform) is very positive so far.
get 7900X or 7950X or 7950X3D when they go on sales.
@@hieuluutran7572 14700k is 20 cores
If you've yet to do so, try bumping your clocks up to 5GHz (or as close as you can). 7700k OCs nicely. I'd personally recommend holding out until 15th Gen unless you _need_ the extra cores.
your fascinated and excited with cpu advancement related to gaming limitations. You forgot the other side of the equation. How this break neck advancement is also helping the evil AI being used to destroy ourselves. I can't wait till they develop drones that can take any shape, wait in my mailbox to take me out
40% sounds good and all but wake me up when Intel release HEDT
Do you need HEDT for more cores/performance or for more PCIe lanes?
Storage mostly, don't need 4GB/s PCIe lanes but I do need at least 64x at 1GB/s, that's mostly because of what hardware is available. My Asus Rampage board has 12x SATA 3 6gb ports which is a nice start, but 40 PCIe lanes gives me some NVMe drives and additional SATA as well.
should i buy the 13th gen or wait for the 14th gen?
For laptop, wait for 14th. For DT, 13th and 14th are the same.
Desktop? I would wait for the 14th. Grab a 13th gen if it is discounted (as it should be). Because otherwise you'll overpay for the 14th gen while not getting much more performance.
ty vadim ;)
Lga 1700 gen 15 ok
sounds like intel themselves isn't that confident on their 14th gen chip..
i wonder if we will see a lot of fail chips that make the system unstable in the future when people adopted the 14th gen cpu...
Which ones, the desktop or laptop ? I'm sure that the desktop ones will be rock solid.
I'd avoid it too lol especially when performance gain is just 3%.
@@IAMNOTRANAwheres the benchmark? I wanna see that 3%.
Is it worth to upgrade from 13900k to 14900k?
No. Unless you care about an extra 5% performance.
No!! Only worth it if you're still running gen 11 or older
Even the i9-10900k is still pretty good
@@Beall_ True.. But would be a significant performance uplift from gen10 to 14 though
@@queenofstamford3141 no cpu upgrade above 10th gen is fully worth it until intel irons out their latency issues. Maybe only if you run a fat gpu above 4070/3080 at a lower resolution or if there's a need for many cores
when come 20th cpu procesor ? lol
AAA gaming is a waste of time so no need to upgrade. AAA gaming is unoptimised, clunky, with nested menu systems which along with the loading screens IS the game play. Quality games ended with 2077 and even that was a dumpster fire when released. The Starfield 4090 with current CPU narrative is BS.
So you don't play any games and don't have the slightest clue of what you're vomiting out of your behind. Gotcha ;)
Add 1-2 quarters and them youll have the true launch dates. 😂😂
After 9 months its not true😂 intel getting more efficient and more powerful
COME NEW CPU 14DEN AND NEW MOTHERBOARD CHIPSET TOO
Same mobo
@@Mr.Meow011 i think make after 6 montch new cipset for gen 14 suport
13 gen = 14 gen.
I want 16Pcores and 16E cores.. make it happen Intel..
Late 2026 17th Gen Nova Lake true next gen cpus to anything from last few years. 17700 is supposed to have a 144mb cache. That's true next gen. Current strong cpus only have 20-35mb cache. If your cpu is really old getting anything beyond a 12700k-13600k now is a waste of money.
@tanyaiamyourfather so you don't advise going for 14th gen whether i5 or i7 at the moment ? I have been considering a new cpu lately, might wait until 15th gen is out and buy a new one.
@@yousef9181 what is your current cpu?
@@Jolly-Green-Steve I have an i5 9400f. Been using it for years now, a big change is all I am for. Looking at the power these new i7 processors consume, I am rethinking my options and doubting whether it's worthy or not.
I saw the ryzen 7 7800X3D and it's very strong and uses less power than it's peer the i7.
What do you think?
@@yousef9181 I always use userbenchmark website to compare cpu strengths. is your cpu giving you problems in anything? i have a 2600k so it sucks for video editing. if you have to upgrade now I would go with a 13600k because i don't think a 12600k is a big enough of a jump compared to your cpu even though it is amazing at low power/heat. I have never been a fan of AMD products because they always gave me issues with games/emulation but maybe they are better now. 15th gen and 17th gen intel is supposed to be huge jumps so I'd probably wait for those if I were you. I myself am probably gonna go 12600k then 17600k in 2026.
Intel
👍
Meteor lake is already a dumpster fire. Hahahaahah intel is DEAD! Going the way of IBM
Intel, better with RAM, better overall stability, much less headaches, i dont care power, i undervolt my cpus, my 13600K used 67 watts in mw2
Intel7 is 10nm, which is almost twice area than actual7nm. Now intel4 may be a 5-6nm Chip as per intel naming scheme.
f intel4 is only 20% efficient than 7 then it's just a naming thing. No actual improvement. TSMC4nm AMD chips gives twice performance per watt than intel in heavy power using apps . AMD4nm CPU and Nvidia 4nm is the best combo. For real intensive RTgaming and productivity usage with more lasting 🔋 than intel .
AMD is yet to release 4nm APU with 16CU for iGPU for some real gaming and should be cheaper than intels SOC assemblage. It's good to see more competition but I'm skeptical about actual delivery of this intel4 on laptops.
What TSMC calls 7nm is THE SAME in almost all respects as what Intel calls 10nm.
This is OLD NEWS and has been very well documented.
starshit.
Found the troll. Get a life.
no intrest in 14 gen. ve need 15 gen, for the new RTX 50 series!
RTX50 series? That's new to me
Rtx 5000 next gen gpu
@@wow22815 thanks, looking forward to it
Nay, pure Intel build:
ARC Battlemage
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