Just remember that these are guidelines, not hard rules. And every mix and voice is different. Start there and sweep around to find the sweet spot in each vocal, and do it with the mix playing so your mix doesn’t suddenly have way to much 7k after boosting a bunch of vocal presence when you could have gotten the same impact from a balance of air and boom. Male vocals will usually be a little lower for the fundamental/fullness, I find my own voice gets nice and warm with a boost between 80 and 100. 120 starts getting into my boomy range already, so just keep your ears open and stay flexible and open and you’ll be fine!
Keep your ears safe, in the first part and don’t make boosts. Just three months of shelves in headphones, and one becomes partially deaf in high frequencies.
@@sevchykFym “don’t make boosts” lol. Just don’t make obscene shelf boosts. You don’t need to boost +12db on anything. But 1-3db isn’t gonna harm your ears.
Man, I love your guides, they literally got me from intermediate To pro engineer... Thank you a lot... I love the Air part, it clearly makes the vocal stand out in the mix
ill use these setting fo rmy next video, not plugging my channel but im am an amatuer at studio work but i need to improve my sound. Vocals are the hardest part for me to capture right.
Those vocals sound so nice, when you turn the volume up and down nothing sticks out. I wish people spoke more about this also Because then when it’s time to eq it is for taste and dimension
so true. im not messing with engineers like streaky but their job so easy. i can do the same, maybe even better when i take records like this. its almost sound like full mixed already. so clean, so good really good recorded
It would be more noticeable with an instrumental behind it, because you’d hear it filling in the frequencies he removed, etc. Which is exactly why you don’t mix vocals without the instrumental present
Here’s my guide for eq-ing vocals…. Just a frequency, any frequency will do, and cut it (or boost). If the music feels you picked wrong, choose another frequency. But don’t ever just sweep around otherwise you’ll just train yourself how to hear phasing and not what a vocal sounds like.
Agree... It gives me things to learn and to try that are new and interesting. I' make a basic beat and try out these new techniques. Sometimes it inspires be to go beyond the loop and create something brand new.
@@iloveeverything4380 Yeah. Just three months of high shelves in studio headphones three hours a day and your hearing will be partially blown. Don’t experiment…In-the-box mixes don’t need boosting, every track or vst is already bright as hell, they need cutting instead to produce what sounds similar to radio records…
@@SaltSpirits Do you know that sound pressure increases twofold just with a 3 db increase? Because of ear fatigue, say, after an hour of mixing, it will seem to you that the higher frequencies are not enough, and you will boost it on the eq, increasing the temporary threshold shift that is already there due to that fatigue. You will be playing with destiny whether that shift returns back or not). And when in the world do you need a high frequency boost? Vocals? They are already bright and sibilant when you record them. Bass guitar? Doesn’t need high frequencies. Acoustic guitar? It is already harsh recorded. The whole mix? High frequencies from other instruments already accumulate and smear it, so you have to cut instead. You have to cut them, but nobody on this fucking internet talks about that, beside the best engineers. Thousand of people on youtube tell you how to mix, and all of them tell you to boost something. Copycat idiots, don’t know the real mixing with safety precautions…
Would like a full vocal chain start to finish too. Are they different depending on the gender/range of the singer? What does each step in the chain accomplish so I can recreate it.
Trust me, there's no such thing as a "standard full vocal chain". You should always process audio for what is needed to obtain what your ears and brain want.
@@mttlsa686 That's true. But there are some standard inserts you could use. Something for tone, compression, clarity and air .. adjust to taste rather than not use entirely. There must be some things that people use either as standard or because they work so well on vocals. The clariphonic II is great for lift in the high end and midrange presence. I use that quite a lot
@@MOSMASTERING Yes mate, whatever it takes and fits to reach your goal and satisfy your brain to get close as possible with the sound that you've got in your mind and body. Personally, to give an example, if i want to give some clarity and air to a vocal, i prefer to use an EQ and tweaking it detailedly to perfectly get the sound that i've got in my mind, instead of using a plug in that automatically give clarity and air according with its parameter in a limited way (even if limitations are often good because they increase creativity) but this is probably some sort of mental illness so don't take this way as better than the others and do what you want and whatever you like as long as it fits and sounds good, the important thing is the knowledge. Learn the rules before masterfully breaking them, if and when you want.
@@mttlsa686 Thanks for your detailed reply, always appreciate talking with fellow sound-obsessed folk like myself :) I work as a mix and mastering engineer so I get to mix other peoples vocals fairly often, depends on the job I've been given. As for me personally, I make a lot of EDM.. I've just spent 3 solid days working on a kick and bass combination and I am so happy with it.. now I need to find sounds that fit over the top of it. I write a lot of music but I have never had the luck or chance to collaborate with anyone in 20 years of production. It would be an honour to just mess about making something with someone and see what happened
@@MOSMASTERING I love to talk about music, even more if "philosophically". I'm 38 and i'm into music since i was 7 when i've started to play guitar, self taught after learning just the very basic chords from my parents while listening to music by artists like The Queen, Metallica, Lucio Battisti (amazing and brilliant Italian musician/producer/singer/arranger, i suggest to listen to his music if you don't know him by any chance), Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Eric Clapton and other great Bands/Singers thanks to the good tastes of my family (God bless them). At 16 after my first clubbing night i gained interest in electronic music and i've started to make the first steps in music production and DJing. After 8 years i had the opportunity to play as a Dj in some renowned clubs in Rome but i've quitted for various reason so i've stared to study the art of mixing as much as possible in every possible way while making music just for fun (more for a physical need to be honest) and now it's only 4 years that i'm making my first productions, taking some friends/singers songs to life in my home studio (being paid for what i honestly deserve) but again, i do it firstly because it's a physical and mental need which I can't do without. Moreover i'm a perfectionist and the biggest critic of myself so i'm never happy and i'm struggling every fucking day because i'd change something every time i listen to what i've made. 🤣
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Just remember that these are guidelines, not hard rules. And every mix and voice is different. Start there and sweep around to find the sweet spot in each vocal, and do it with the mix playing so your mix doesn’t suddenly have way to much 7k after boosting a bunch of vocal presence when you could have gotten the same impact from a balance of air and boom. Male vocals will usually be a little lower for the fundamental/fullness, I find my own voice gets nice and warm with a boost between 80 and 100. 120 starts getting into my boomy range already, so just keep your ears open and stay flexible and open and you’ll be fine!
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Keep your ears safe, in the first part and don’t make boosts. Just three months of shelves in headphones, and one becomes partially deaf in high frequencies.
@@sevchykFym “don’t make boosts” lol. Just don’t make obscene shelf boosts. You don’t need to boost +12db on anything. But 1-3db isn’t gonna harm your ears.
Should you ever boost that much tho?
Not only does it depend on the voice, it depends in the mic as well.
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Man, I love your guides, they literally got me from intermediate To pro engineer... Thank you a lot... I love the Air part, it clearly makes the vocal stand out in the mix
Great video!!!
Good stuff 👍🏽
Thank you
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ill use these setting fo rmy next video, not plugging my channel but im am an amatuer at studio work but i need to improve my sound. Vocals are the hardest part for me to capture right.
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Those vocals sound so nice, when you turn the volume up and down nothing sticks out. I wish people spoke more about this also
Because then when it’s time to eq it is for taste and dimension
so true. im not messing with engineers like streaky but their job so easy. i can do the same, maybe even better when i take records like this. its almost sound like full mixed already. so clean, so good really good recorded
It would be more noticeable with an instrumental behind it, because you’d hear it filling in the frequencies he removed, etc. Which is exactly why you don’t mix vocals without the instrumental present
@@SaltSpirits you dont think you would do a good job doing a vocal mix then add instruments in?
@@Dane_Riazerfor me it’s the other way around, get the best out of the instrument part, only then i mix the vocal
Nice
Here’s my guide for eq-ing vocals…. Just a frequency, any frequency will do, and cut it (or boost). If the music feels you picked wrong, choose another frequency. But don’t ever just sweep around otherwise you’ll just train yourself how to hear phasing and not what a vocal sounds like.
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Great tip
take the range he mentioned for function guide area, being every vocal is different. same goes for presets
definitely remembering this
I open your channel anytime i want to start a mix
Agree...
It gives me things to learn and to try that are new and interesting. I' make a basic beat and try out these new techniques. Sometimes it inspires be to go beyond the loop and create something brand new.
This is the Only RUclips channel that's very helpful for audio guides.
there are others
Produce Like A Pro is great, Warren is fantastic and explains everything really well
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Boosting high frequencies = producing rapid hearing loss.
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@@iloveeverything4380 Yeah. Just three months of high shelves in studio headphones three hours a day and your hearing will be partially blown. Don’t experiment…In-the-box mixes don’t need boosting, every track or vst is already bright as hell, they need cutting instead to produce what sounds similar to radio records…
@@iloveeverything4380Only if you severely overdo it. 1-3db should be fine depending on the vocal. Anything over that is pushing it.
@@SaltSpirits Do you know that sound pressure increases twofold just with a 3 db increase? Because of ear fatigue, say, after an hour of mixing, it will seem to you that the higher frequencies are not enough, and you will boost it on the eq, increasing the temporary threshold shift that is already there due to that fatigue. You will be playing with destiny whether that shift returns back or not). And when in the world do you need a high frequency boost? Vocals? They are already bright and sibilant when you record them. Bass guitar? Doesn’t need high frequencies. Acoustic guitar? It is already harsh recorded. The whole mix? High frequencies from other instruments already accumulate and smear it, so you have to cut instead. You have to cut them, but nobody on this fucking internet talks about that, beside the best engineers. Thousand of people on youtube tell you how to mix, and all of them tell you to boost something. Copycat idiots, don’t know the real mixing with safety precautions…
@@sevchykWhy would you go off like that on such an inoffensive topic lmao
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what software are you using there?
Fabfilter Pro Q 3 plugin. And the software is logic pro that he uses the most. Tho the plugin is available on any DAW i guess
Always use the context of the mix
I agree
Streaky you should do a mastering competition with some sort of prize. Would get loads of views/clicks/interactions
Actually, what’s song is this?
What does air meaan
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Would like a full vocal chain start to finish too.
Are they different depending on the gender/range of the singer?
What does each step in the chain accomplish so I can recreate it.
Trust me, there's no such thing as a "standard full vocal chain". You should always process audio for what is needed to obtain what your ears and brain want.
@@mttlsa686 That's true. But there are some standard inserts you could use. Something for tone, compression, clarity and air .. adjust to taste rather than not use entirely.
There must be some things that people use either as standard or because they work so well on vocals. The clariphonic II is great for lift in the high end and midrange presence. I use that quite a lot
@@MOSMASTERING Yes mate, whatever it takes and fits to reach your goal and satisfy your brain to get close as possible with the sound that you've got in your mind and body. Personally, to give an example, if i want to give some clarity and air to a vocal, i prefer to use an EQ and tweaking it detailedly to perfectly get the sound that i've got in my mind, instead of using a plug in that automatically give clarity and air according with its parameter in a limited way (even if limitations are often good because they increase creativity) but this is probably some sort of mental illness so don't take this way as better than the others and do what you want and whatever you like as long as it fits and sounds good, the important thing is the knowledge. Learn the rules before masterfully breaking them, if and when you want.
@@mttlsa686 Thanks for your detailed reply, always appreciate talking with fellow sound-obsessed folk like myself :)
I work as a mix and mastering engineer so I get to mix other peoples vocals fairly often, depends on the job I've been given.
As for me personally, I make a lot of EDM..
I've just spent 3 solid days working on a kick and bass combination and I am so happy with it.. now I need to find sounds that fit over the top of it.
I write a lot of music but I have never had the luck or chance to collaborate with anyone in 20 years of production.
It would be an honour to just mess about making something with someone and see what happened
@@MOSMASTERING I love to talk about music, even more if "philosophically". I'm 38 and i'm into music since i was 7 when i've started to play guitar, self taught after learning just the very basic chords from my parents while listening to music by artists like The Queen, Metallica, Lucio Battisti (amazing and brilliant Italian musician/producer/singer/arranger, i suggest to listen to his music if you don't know him by any chance), Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Eric Clapton and other great Bands/Singers thanks to the good tastes of my family (God bless them). At 16 after my first clubbing night i gained interest in electronic music and i've started to make the first steps in music production and DJing. After 8 years i had the opportunity to play as a Dj in some renowned clubs in Rome but i've quitted for various reason so i've stared to study the art of mixing as much as possible in every possible way while making music just for fun (more for a physical need to be honest) and now it's only 4 years that i'm making my first productions, taking some friends/singers songs to life in my home studio (being paid for what i honestly deserve) but again, i do it firstly because it's a physical and mental need which I can't do without. Moreover i'm a perfectionist and the biggest critic of myself so i'm never happy and i'm struggling every fucking day because i'd change something every time i listen to what i've made. 🤣
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I know this is a really quick vid but to talk about vocal EQ while having some very hard-to-listen-to mic audio is pretty funny
Here's my guide for better mixing technique get out, get a job and let the engineers do their job. Remember don't fool yourself.
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So its ok to boost as much as 8 db on certain frequencies??
500 for boxiness
everyone posting the same stuff for months.
thank you. must post " c o n t e n t "
Right lol. This info is on every single mix blog n article online n has been since like 2002
I don't understand anything
Your getting old mate. We all are, but you are winning the race 😂😂😂