For the past few months, I was set on getting a new H-D Street Glide Special. Then, some 3 weeks ago, I took a test ride on an Indian Chieftain Dark Horse. I ride the Chieftain home that same day. I still have 2 Harleys, but I love this Chieftain. Among other things, I just installed a Rinehart exhaust. Now, my Chieftain sounds insanely awesome. Already have over a 1000 miles on it. Gotta love it!
This is what I like to see. People think it's taboo to love both brands. I am really considering a Chieftain, because lets face it - the H-D suspension is outdated and uncomfortable. How would you compare your first thousand on the Indian vs the Harley? I am looking at getting into a bagger and love the idea of the Chieftain. I just need to find a dealership so I can do a proper test ride on an Indian. The dealership I have here in town are filled with a bunch of pretentious asshats
@@HvyMetal4Ever Personally, having test driving many demo runs on the H-D Street Glide and driving friends’ SGs, the Chieftain opened my eyes to a better alternative. YMMV The first 1000 miles have all been smiles ear to ear. The suspension and ergonomics have been stellar. Next weekend, I venture out of Las Vegas to San Diego and meet with family and friends. From there we all ride up the Pacific Coast Highway and enjoy. They all ride Street Glides and have no idea that I now have an Indian Chieftain DH. 😂
@@360Tinman LMAO - I live in Vegas! I know that route all too well. Well enough to know that El Cajon is going to be a true test of how it does in the wind lol. Did you buy that over at Sin City Indian?
@@360Tinman sounds like you had a good salesman. I went in for a Demo, and the most they let me do (after I scheduled it) was to ride down to Rainbow, over to frontage road, and back up. They told me I couldn't take it on the freeway. Finished the "ride" and haven't been back since.
I have a roadglide...I must say that I ALWAYS liked Indian. That cheif looks amazing! Painted inner fairing,STANDARD! ADJUSTABLE windshield, and at HD you have to get a CVO to get remote locking bags. AND! THAT 116 IS ONE CUBIC INCH SMALLER THAN THE CVO...I BET ITS FASTER TOO. I must test ride one!
Yup the 116 has better torque and hp I think you have to get stage 2 on the Harley to match. Shoot, the HD 121 has claimed 139. That’s 10 higher than 116 actual
I've got a 2020 Chieftain DH. Got the mid rise bars, heel shifter and heated grips installed this winter. I get her back from winter storage this Tuesday, can't wait!
I also like that from a 100% dead cold start, you don't even have to hit the power key. Just tap the start button and it all comes to life immediately.
The best thing for consumers in the US is to have both Indian and Harley make great bikes. Personally I ride a 2022 Chief Dark Horse and have never ridden a Harley but I like the looks of several of the Harley models.
It looks like some of the Victory styling coming back in or was it Indian styling creeping into the Victory line before it was stopped? On a side note the Steel framed Victories also feel light for the weight.
I went to two Indian Dealers here in Georgia, and the salespeople are garbage. I Asked to test ride a couple of bikes and they pretty much said that I would have leave a down payment to do so. I left there, contacted the local Harley Dealer, and rode off the lot the next day on a 22' road glide special. They maybe great bikes, but they have a long way to go with customer service.
I like the gauge cluster better with the black background compared to the older models. Looks alot like a street glide. I guess it's just preference at that point. Price is comparable to the HD
@@jordipi7652 Time for me to have something with a little more class and design I'm not putting harley down its just to me they got lazy and also just for more parts your basically paying for another bike things that should already come standard the want you to pay for
@@anthonyferrell6376 Competition always benefits the motorcyclist, that said, Harley's catalog for customization is infinite, compared to Indian, which is very limited. Both must survive an increasingly small and competitive market.
@@jordipi7652 Very true I agree both companies are not going anywhere that said im changing up for now im going with indian smother ride and maybe later another harley
Ive had my eye on the chieftain DH for a couple or so months now. Currently have a Vulcan Mean Streak but Ive been saying for the past year now that the next bike i get is a Indian. We finally have gotten a Indian dealership here in town. Going next week to their bike night and can't wait to see it in person. Hopefully within the next month will have that bad boy sitting at the house. Great video makes me want it even more.
Have 2019 Road Glide. Had issues with transmission oil being sucked into primary (known issue with M8 motor) and now front wheel bearing noise/issues. Only have 2400 miles. Dealer refused to fix oil issue until it happened 3 times so I bought the $50 kit and installed myself. Rather simple having to drill hole in primary and install breather tube. Its the concept that I had to do this myself on new bike. Also - what about the damage on existing transmission running it very low on oil? Now with bearing noise I'm leaning on test driving Indian. Love HD but.......its more name and quality. Sad....
Unfortunately H-D uses their customers as product testers. They bring out an engine and it takes 5 - 7 years to work most of the bugs and engineering mistakes out of them which the customer pays for. Harley has nice paint but their engines are budget build engines.
Nice ride. I can say with confidence that this will be my next purchase. But I have to ask. Why do you keep reaching over to use the controls on the right with your left hand instead of your right thumb which is what you should be doing? Seems pretty unsafe to keep doing that.
I'm the proud owner of a 2020 scout bobber,I have a dilemma,I want to travel from Vero beach florida to Guadalajara Jalisco Mexico,the scout is way too small for the trip, I'm stuck between the roadmaster and the challenger or the chief.
New SGS ST with 117 and the 116 Thunderstoke both sport 126 ft lbs of torque. The difference is negligee there and both like to be in upper RPMs . Biggest difference to me is the Chieftain feels lighter and more nimble and the styling/features and that’s it.
Nice video. Whenever I decide move on from my 2016 Victory Cross Country (will be a sad day when that happens) I'll probably look to get a Chieftan Dark Horse.
Freedom of choice. Had plenty of HD's myself including a SGS but honestly their warranty/customer service or lack thereof will keep me from ever buying one of their new products again. Way to go Indian/Polaris!
I have 2021 razor 1000xp 2019 1000xp sportsman limited and a 2021 vr1 850 snowmobile and 10 previous sleds and atvs all are by Polaris all great products . Best sled for 2021 with the new matrix chassis . Tied in class of atvs and side by sides with can am and now Indians are over exceeding Harley in features comfort and horsepower for motorcycles. Not including there 3 wheel slingshot that’s more research and development. Bottom line is Polaris is striving to be the best in the power sports industry. Going to make Harley Davidson step up there game or be ran over.brother drives a HD I rode the chieftain and I loved it smooth and I love the power windshield and the deactivation of a cyclinder for low speeds . Not sue if harleys are doing that yet. Display screen is sweet .
Sweet ride. Love the color! Indian makes a great bike. Actually tested a Roadmaster before deciding on my RGS. I watch videos like this and wonder if I made the right choice. haha Love my Road Glide though. My wife wants a Roadmaster so, there will probably be one sitting next the the Road Glide in a couple of years. 🤘
Did I see a $28,000 sticker on that headlight??? That’s a gorgeous bike but I don’t see how in the world something with only two wheels can be that expensive.
I liked the video. Subscribed!. I looked at the Chieftain dark horse at a dealer in CT before I moved down to Greenville SC and I had the same damn problem with the kickstand. It was too far away from me. I'm vertically challenged 😅 lol. 5'7" 28 1/2 inseam. So the bike didn't exactly fit me but damn I like that bike. I ride a 2021 BMW S1000XR and I love it but maybe in a yr or 2 get a second bike. You have me looking at Chieftain again. Nice video.
The 2021 has the new slipper clutch. Apple Car play is standard on the 2021. It is a software download for the 2020. The V-twin motor is physically a bit slimmer on the 2021 versus the 2020. You would have to put them side by side to notice the difference. As the original poster mentioned the power button is moved to the hand controls on the 2021 which allowed them to put a SAE power outlet on the fairing to power accessories.
I see bikes with big ass fairings with TV screens and speakers and I think dude, get a car and just get it over with. I don't mind the Heritage and Road King screen.
I can tell these types of bikes must be comfortable as all get out, but baggers/touring bikes like these give me pot-belly old-man-cop-loving boot licker energy. And playing metal music over these portable lazy boys gives dentist flying colours on the weekend type of vibe.
They are nice and have value added such as ride modes and others but since 1901 is not accurate. Maybe for the Indian name but the original Indian went out of business In I think 1953. Polaris claiming heritage they bought. Just my opinion.
Well it is no different than AMF saving Harley Davidson. The Indian name has changed hands unbroken since 1901which is why Polaris, an American Motorsports manufacturer had to purchase the company. Harley Davidson is more of an apparel company.
Est 1901. Absent for 50 years. It's just a name with zero connection to the original. Now all the shitty styling cues that made Victory terrible are being slowly reintroduced as they gain sales and confidence. Decent product and I really like the new chief except for the victory back fender. Love the fact that Indian opened up the front of the bike with the window frame and kept it air cooled.. meanwhile Harleys m8 looks Japanese and has a radiator in the frame like a Honda. Times are strange indeed my friends
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For the past few months, I was set on getting a new H-D Street Glide Special. Then, some 3 weeks ago, I took a test ride on an Indian Chieftain Dark Horse. I ride the Chieftain home that same day. I still have 2 Harleys, but I love this Chieftain.
Among other things, I just installed a Rinehart exhaust. Now, my Chieftain sounds insanely awesome. Already have over a 1000 miles on it. Gotta love it!
This is what I like to see. People think it's taboo to love both brands. I am really considering a Chieftain, because lets face it - the H-D suspension is outdated and uncomfortable. How would you compare your first thousand on the Indian vs the Harley? I am looking at getting into a bagger and love the idea of the Chieftain.
I just need to find a dealership so I can do a proper test ride on an Indian. The dealership I have here in town are filled with a bunch of pretentious asshats
@@HvyMetal4Ever Personally, having test driving many demo runs on the H-D Street Glide and driving friends’ SGs, the Chieftain opened my eyes to a better alternative. YMMV
The first 1000 miles have all been smiles ear to ear. The suspension and ergonomics have been stellar.
Next weekend, I venture out of Las Vegas to San Diego and meet with family and friends. From there we all ride up the Pacific Coast Highway and enjoy.
They all ride Street Glides and have no idea that I now have an Indian Chieftain DH. 😂
@@360Tinman
LMAO - I live in Vegas! I know that route all too well. Well enough to know that El Cajon is going to be a true test of how it does in the wind lol.
Did you buy that over at Sin City Indian?
@@HvyMetal4Ever Yes, at Sin City on S Buffalo. Lol Hopefully, the winds will be kind.
@@360Tinman sounds like you had a good salesman.
I went in for a Demo, and the most they let me do (after I scheduled it) was to ride down to Rainbow, over to frontage road, and back up. They told me I couldn't take it on the freeway.
Finished the "ride" and haven't been back since.
I have a roadglide...I must say that I ALWAYS liked Indian. That cheif looks amazing! Painted inner fairing,STANDARD! ADJUSTABLE windshield, and at HD you have to get a CVO to get remote locking bags. AND! THAT 116 IS ONE CUBIC INCH SMALLER THAN THE CVO...I BET ITS FASTER TOO. I must test ride one!
Yup the 116 has better torque and hp
I think you have to get stage 2 on the Harley to match. Shoot, the HD 121 has claimed 139.
That’s 10 higher than 116 actual
I have a 2019 white smoke dark horse and love it
What’s you weight mate?
I've got a 2020 Chieftain DH. Got the mid rise bars, heel shifter and heated grips installed this winter. I get her back from winter storage this Tuesday, can't wait!
2019 Chieftain Limited rider....perfect bike after midrise bars, TAB zombies, Ultimate seat and KlockWorks shied. 22k flawless miles!
I also like that from a 100% dead cold start, you don't even have to hit the power key. Just tap the start button and it all comes to life immediately.
The best thing for consumers in the US is to have both Indian and Harley make great bikes. Personally I ride a 2022 Chief Dark Horse and have never ridden a Harley but I like the looks of several of the Harley models.
No doubt; no matter who you’re a fan of, competition is ALWAYS good for everyone.
You can look in the real view mirror in the video and there is no vibration. Awesome! Great review..
Just went and looked at the all black murdered out one. Had to tuck it in my waist band. One of the most beautiful bikes I've ever seen
Hegshot thank you. I’m still debating getting the Chieftain or the StreetGlide.
I wish they put the cornerIng ABS on this that they developed for the challenger.
First review I've seen that showed the inside of the saddlebags. THANK YOU!
It looks like some of the Victory styling coming back in or was it Indian styling creeping into the Victory line before it was stopped? On a side note the Steel framed Victories also feel light for the weight.
I went to two Indian Dealers here in Georgia, and the salespeople are garbage. I Asked to test ride a couple of bikes and they pretty much said that I would have leave a down payment to do so. I left there, contacted the local Harley Dealer, and rode off the lot the next day on a 22' road glide special. They maybe great bikes, but they have a long way to go with customer service.
It’s funny man because my Indian dealer is awesome and my local Harley dealers suck. Really depends on location I guess
@@HegshotRides That's crazy bro. Because I went unbiased as a new rider, and liked the Indian. Glad your experience was better. Nice video as always
Have a scout bobber was wondering when they are going to release the 2023 tested a 2022 cpl days ago and loved it so I signed
This kills the Harley Street glide and road glide, I wish now I had bought the chieftain instead of the street glide
truly appreciate your non bias review.....even as an HD owner.
I like the gauge cluster better with the black background compared to the older models. Looks alot like a street glide. I guess it's just preference at that point. Price is comparable to the HD
Like the features but still like the way my 18 street glide special in twisted cherry looks
Man Indians look and sound great.
I've had my eye on a Sky Blue Chief Vintage for a while I'm a sucker for all that chrome and valanced fenders.
I have a 2018 Springfield DarkHorse. Love it.
The older Touring bikes came equipped with a CB radio (Radios that Truck Drivers used)
Makes me wonder why people even buy Harleys anymore.
Oh trust me this dude right here aka "ME" lol 😆 will be getting one this summer no harley for me..
Because Harley still is a #1
@@jordipi7652
Time for me to have something with a little more class and design I'm not putting harley down its just to me they got lazy and also just for more parts your basically paying for another bike things that should already come standard the want you to pay for
@@anthonyferrell6376 Competition always benefits the motorcyclist, that said, Harley's catalog for customization is infinite, compared to Indian, which is very limited. Both must survive an increasingly small and competitive market.
@@jordipi7652
Very true I agree both companies are not going anywhere that said im changing up for now im going with indian smother ride and maybe later another harley
I’d like to see a Springfield review for sure. And a Chief as well. Thanks for the videos.
I wanted that one at one point, then I fail in love with the Challenger. They’re both great looking bikes.
It comes with a LED headlight ! Matter of fact all the lights are led
The opening music to this video was as cool as the bike
Springfield dark horse next!
I am obsessed with this bike
Ive had my eye on the chieftain DH for a couple or so months now. Currently have a Vulcan Mean Streak but Ive been saying for the past year now that the next bike i get is a Indian. We finally have gotten a Indian dealership here in town. Going next week to their bike night and can't wait to see it in person. Hopefully within the next month will have that bad boy sitting at the house. Great video makes me want it even more.
Thanks man and congrats. You’ll love it bro
If I had to choose between an SG and a Chieftain, it would really be very difficult, although my favorite is still the Road King.
This is hegshot guntuber right? What is your preferred carry method while riding?
Have 2019 Road Glide. Had issues with transmission oil being sucked into primary (known issue with M8 motor) and now front wheel bearing noise/issues. Only have 2400 miles. Dealer refused to fix oil issue until it happened 3 times so I bought the $50 kit and installed myself. Rather simple having to drill hole in primary and install breather tube. Its the concept that I had to do this myself on new bike. Also - what about the damage on existing transmission running it very low on oil? Now with bearing noise I'm leaning on test driving Indian. Love HD but.......its more name and quality. Sad....
Unfortunately H-D uses their customers as product testers. They bring out an engine and it takes 5 - 7 years to work most of the bugs and engineering mistakes out of them which the customer pays for. Harley has nice paint but their engines are budget build engines.
How do you put apes on this thing with those gauges in the way
Which one has the highest value at 2 years old
Nice ride. I can say with confidence that this will be my next purchase. But I have to ask. Why do you keep reaching over to use the controls on the right with your left hand instead of your right thumb which is what you should be doing? Seems pretty unsafe to keep doing that.
Harley Shmarley, Indian is where it's at😎
I am glad the saddle bags lock and unlock, they wouldn’t be much good if they didn’t unlock 😂
I'm the proud owner of a 2020 scout bobber,I have a dilemma,I want to travel from Vero beach florida to Guadalajara Jalisco Mexico,the scout is way too small for the trip, I'm stuck between the roadmaster and the challenger or the chief.
What bike has better performance cheiftain or Milwaukee 8 street glide. I’ve ridden the chieftain and love it but curious on new street glide
New SGS ST with 117 and the 116 Thunderstoke both sport 126 ft lbs of torque. The difference is negligee there and both like to be in upper RPMs . Biggest difference to me is the Chieftain feels lighter and more nimble and the styling/features and that’s it.
Nice video. Whenever I decide move on from my 2016 Victory Cross Country (will be a sad day when that happens) I'll probably look to get a Chieftan Dark Horse.
Freedom of choice. Had plenty of HD's myself including a SGS but honestly their warranty/customer service or lack thereof will keep me from ever buying one of their new products again. Way to go Indian/Polaris!
Are you saying Harley has lack of warranty or Indian does?
Please note: this Bike does have an LED headlight, all lights are LED...
Just about to buy one of these....... Only fault I find is the position of that foot stand!! .. I'm only 5'4" and really cant reach it.
I like the Indians and it looks like a great bike. I am still in the wait and see mode after Polaris and the Victory.
I have 2021 razor 1000xp 2019 1000xp sportsman limited and a 2021 vr1 850 snowmobile and 10 previous sleds and atvs all are by Polaris all great products . Best sled for 2021 with the new matrix chassis . Tied in class of atvs and side by sides with can am and now Indians are over exceeding Harley in features comfort and horsepower for motorcycles. Not including there 3 wheel slingshot that’s more research and development. Bottom line is Polaris is striving to be the best in the power sports industry. Going to make Harley Davidson step up there game or be ran over.brother drives a HD I rode the chieftain and I loved it smooth and I love the power windshield and the deactivation of a cyclinder for low speeds . Not sue if harleys are doing that yet. Display screen is sweet .
In your opinion, what pipes sound and or perform the best on the Cheiftain?
I wanna see the Icon model or Springfield
I’m 5”1 is this a good first bike for me?
Sweet ride. Love the color! Indian makes a great bike. Actually tested a Roadmaster before deciding on my RGS. I watch videos like this and wonder if I made the right choice. haha Love my Road Glide though. My wife wants a Roadmaster so, there will probably be one sitting next the the Road Glide in a couple of years. 🤘
Ya darn skippy. Never heard it. I like it. Good review.
Gorgeous bike fantastic review
Indian challenger review next
Springfield dark horse with 116.
These look amazing... would love to hear one with a Stage 2 atleast....sound a bit like a sewing machine... but I really like these latest models.
Dude, just trade in the Harley! I suggest the big boy bike, the Challenger!
Did I see a $28,000 sticker on that headlight??? That’s a gorgeous bike but I don’t see how in the world something with only two wheels can be that expensive.
BA! Just ordered mine!!🇺🇸
I liked the video. Subscribed!. I looked at the Chieftain dark horse at a dealer in CT before I moved down to Greenville SC and I had the same damn problem with the kickstand. It was too far away from me. I'm vertically challenged 😅 lol. 5'7" 28 1/2 inseam. So the bike didn't exactly fit me but damn I like that bike. I ride a 2021 BMW S1000XR and I love it but maybe in a yr or 2 get a second bike. You have me looking at Chieftain again. Nice video.
Haha I’m in Gville as well!
the new Chief DH review please.
No Android Auto?
Do you think so much technology benefits or hurts the biker?
Absolutely Amazing bike!!!
Indian challenger next. Then the new chief.
Wow that looks incredible
I’m getting me a Indian chieftain dark horse. I own a fatboy 2018 but I’m going to own both
Harley's are a dime a dozen, trade up.
Does anyone know what the differences are between the 2020 Chieftain Dark Horse vs 2021 Chieftain Dark Horse?
The only difference I know of is the power up button is on the hand controls now. Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🇳🇿😎
The 2021 has the new slipper clutch. Apple Car play is standard on the 2021. It is a software download for the 2020. The V-twin motor is physically a bit slimmer on the 2021 versus the 2020. You would have to put them side by side to notice the difference. As the original poster mentioned the power button is moved to the hand controls on the 2021 which allowed them to put a SAE power outlet on the fairing to power accessories.
@@freddieriggins8212 They have also reinforced the closure of the glove compartment.
@@jordipi7652 True. Forgot about that.
@@freddieriggins8212
Hi, if you could would you get one or would you look for other options? Thanks!
10:25 you got pretty hands😳
Thanks bro.
Great video, awesome bike!!
Sounds like you adore this big bad gorgeous ride! Oh yes, so nice 👍🏻!
According to my owners manual the engine is 1890cc??cheers 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🇳🇿😎
Its like 1900.888 .... I googled the conversion earlier today ..
@@edwardmorgan3851 lol awesome! Cheers for that mate 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🇳🇿😎
Not to correct you, but they advertise 1890 CCs.
1901 CCs sounds better though!
I love the bike but why are you saying 1901cc's?
Conversion cubic inches to cubic center meters. 116=1900.89
Thanks for the clarification
Any fairing storage?
Small cell phone size storage above the display
@@dysfunctionalmoto5338 all I need.
I see bikes with big ass fairings with TV screens and speakers and I think dude, get a car and just get it over with. I don't mind the Heritage and Road King screen.
I can tell these types of bikes must be comfortable as all get out, but baggers/touring bikes like these give me pot-belly old-man-cop-loving boot licker energy.
And playing metal music over these portable lazy boys gives dentist flying colours on the weekend type of vibe.
Indian chieftain limited what’s the difference
Limited is chromed out. The darkhorse is blacked out. Otherwise there the same
keep getting pushed to the chieftan. next purchase fine.
Looks like a mint bike.
You drove past my house 🤣
Good looking bike.
That would be the BMW K1600GT.
I like the style of the Indian Bike, Harley Davidson on the other Hand I think their Over Hype
The brakes feel weird, like they don't bite in
I want one!!!
Want.
Sus Terminados Son Muy Corriente
"whos this bike for? ex harley riders!"...
They are nice and have value added such as ride modes and others but since 1901 is not accurate. Maybe for the Indian name but the original Indian went out of business In I think 1953. Polaris claiming heritage they bought. Just my opinion.
Well it is no different than AMF saving Harley Davidson. The Indian name has changed hands unbroken since 1901which is why Polaris, an American Motorsports manufacturer had to purchase the company. Harley Davidson is more of an apparel company.
I love it
It’s 1890 cc……Dude
Get real man by a bike of quality The true American motorcycle It sure aint no IndianHD NEIL AKA THE KRONK
Yeahhhh bro
Indian is owned by Polaris
Yes, a totally American made Bike in Spirite Lake Iowa that supports the American labor force.
Dude!
I have a 2016 Indian vintage Indian red Most Beautiful by G of all times. Sorry to say that the that they ruin the bike they look like Hondas now
Hard
That thing is f***** nasty
Me
Est 1901. Absent for 50 years. It's just a name with zero connection to the original. Now all the shitty styling cues that made Victory terrible are being slowly reintroduced as they gain sales and confidence. Decent product and I really like the new chief except for the victory back fender. Love the fact that Indian opened up the front of the bike with the window frame and kept it air cooled.. meanwhile Harleys m8 looks Japanese and has a radiator in the frame like a Honda. Times are strange indeed my friends