The New USPS Delivery Truck Review | Next Generation Delivery Vehicle | Interview with James Boxrud
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2023
- This is the new USPS EV truck called the Oshkosh Next Generation Delivery Vehicle (NGDV) and looks super dorky.
I've interviewed Mr. James Boxrud, who gave us all of the detail about the truck that will soon be delivering your mail and packages.
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If they could’ve just put ac in our llvs I’d be fine. They’re the perfect size and easy to whip around in. Bigger isn’t always better.
Do you know how much gas and maintenance and lv required over the year ... Is in sane
Yeah, the LLVs are good vehicles. I will be very sad to see them go. Especially being replaced with these ugly things. I am sure they won’t last anywhere near as long.
@@ivansepulveda854Not as costly to maintain as the new MB Metris fleet they've put in place to replace the LLV with. MB warranties almost nothing on them, so we're stuck fixing brand new Mercdes prices for parts that are under warranty, up to and including engine replacements of over 16 thousand dollars.
@@ivansepulveda854They are all from the 80’s and 90’s that’s why. If they copied the LLV, put in A/C it would be fine.
Knowing that this is from Oshkosh I wonder where is the composite armor and crew controlled turret on the truck so I can safely deliver mail in the most peaceful day in Chicago.
Oshkosh b’gosh
GOP fraud truck. Show me the kick backs
@@davidgruss6295 me too thanks
@@davidgruss6295I’d rather be defrauded than de-alived in Chicago.
@@BB-ed4omThen stay out of red states 😂😂😂 Can’t read and die obese at 40, even while getting every handout
Looks like something out of the movie cloudy with a chance of meatballs
I’ve been a letter carrier for 27 years and I’m excited to get this new vehicle. Looks good and practical.
You’ll be retired by the time we get it😂
Doing my shadow tomorrow. Any advice?
@@anapg2so reading this now, how’d your shadow day go?!?
I’ve been a carrier for 10 months this is going to be a horrible vehicle it’s basically the pro van with a bit more room in the front.
I'm more concerned with the ground clearance and turn radius.
re: Ground Clearance? Why is that a concern?
Because not everywhere we have to go is a paved road
Quite frankly, the shelf space up front of the LLV with the standing room in the back of the Promaster, with AC, thats a winning combination on paper. All I need to know now is ground clearance, turning radius, and will it drive uphill in the snow?
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It looks like the pro master we current use in the back it’s the same.
Having had EVs in Norway for some time now with the temperatures and steep hills. This will probably be a good fit in the US too considering this.
Not sure what you meant but the temperatures aren't uniform across the US
@@cyclone8974 EV are less efficient in cold temperature, so if EV works well in Norway, it will works well everywhere else.
Norway has only used a couple electric mail trucks in cities. Vast majority of their mail fleet including all rural routes still use combustion power.
Thanks for the vid
Always a pleasure!
That's nice! ✅️
Can't wait to deliver in it👍😎
Waiting like 30 years
, I love all of your videos, I watch them daily
Are the shelves adjustable? It varies from day to day the package sizes.
I like the wheel taken from the ford spare parts bin
I'm not saying they're flawed, all I'm saying is that they're too low to the ground and the post office delivers to alot of off road bumpy roads that aren't paved and it may or may not get damaged pretty bad
Well I live in a rural area and all the mail carriers drive personal vehicles around where I live I only see these USPS trucks in town where the roads are paved
That's because they are Rural Carriers (country side) and not City Carriers (in town/city). But all the Rural Carriers in our office drive postal trucks.
@@justinjones6810Rural carriers only use POVs (personally owned vehicles) when the route is over 40 miles. Some rural routes are less than 40 miles, so they get an LLV/Matris. In my office, every route now has either a Mercedes Matris or LLV. They've been using LLVs for the past couple of years as backups only when the Matris vans need maintenance or repairs. POVs are still used for non-assigned routes in my office, though. Basically, if I just come off my assigned route and I need to go back out to help someone else finish their route, I'll take my POV and get paid mileage.
Paved or no doesn't matter. All city carriers use a postal vehicle since they're sort of the face of the USPS on the streets, even though the rural carriers do the bulk of the work.
You handled the interview so well!!!!
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Keep in mind that postal carriers used to deliver mostly letters. Today, they deliver way more packages than envelopes, so they need larger vehicles.
Post routes are smaller in geography than UPS or FedEx and remain static in size no matter what, whereas UPS and FedEx will expand or contract the geography of their routes to accommodate the package load. They will add or subtract routes on any given day to suit their needs.
Unfortunately the Post Office has no such mechanism for expanding and contract volumes. So on a normal day the cargo space shown will be sufficient for the route and then some, depending on the volume. But during Christmas and say the first year of the pandemic, when you greedy little bastards buy your pretty little hearts out, then multiple trips become required. One trip being for the mail and what packages you can carry. The second trip for the remaining packages you had to leave behind the last time.
Lol greedy little bastards quick question I'm assuming that just like ups and fed ex the mail trucks do not have ac I wonder if these will
You’ve obviously never had a route count
I hope they have smaller versions. Cause that would be way too big for my route. Until maybe Christmas, but I'm not sure
I currently work for you usps it's not worth working for the company these days one of my family members retired from them and I told them of how my position we are not getting even 30 hours a week from what I was told by my family member who retired years ago they are no longer doing things the way they used to according to my family member who has been with the company currently for 2 years. If they actually do send out these new vehicles that will be great from what I've been told they've been talking about it for years safety features on that sound great because the ones we currently use if it's raining you will slide
Thank you for sharing! That's awesome. I hear from my friends, who's folks worked for USPS before, that the benefits are great as well (given your tenure). Appreciate the input.
Where are you from? Before the new rule that was implemented a week or two ago which prevents carriers from working over 60 hours, I was getting 70-72 hours a week since I was hired in October 2021
These new mail trucks better be AWD and better in snow.
There is always the charge them at night factor. Are we going to install massive charging stations? Hire employees to stay all night and swap vehicle chargers as needed? Will they be able to charge at any charging station so if on break that can be done? Just not sold on electric. To many variables for repair and upkeep. But hey if it has AC I’m sold. It’s hot here in Florida.
They're not electric.
That thing looks low to the ground here on the east coast theres a lot of pot holes
Looks good, reminds me of flying car 2 from cloudy with a chance of meatballs
Does it actually have acs now?
Basically management just approved overtime
It looks like a giraffe's car in Zootopia LOL
that's going to bottom out on every incline it goes over
This probably isn’t going to be the final version of this so it’s not an issue. Usps drivers drive in the snow they wouldn’t make something that couldn’t even drive ins. Couple of inches of snow like alone an incline without snow.
Holy balls it's so friggin big...... This would get fucked up so bad on any of the rural routes in our county.
"Back them up and plug them in"...... LOL not in our station you won't. This thing and a charging station take up the space of 3 LLVs and the parking area we have forces us to park ours 4 deep and 2 across...... So just TWO of these would all we could store........ Now we would just need to figure out where we would be putting the other 13..........
It looks like it won't clear Speed bumps
Am i still gonna be able to hear the mailman coming from my porch so i know when the mail came
They could’ve just put ac in our old llvs and refresh paint on older vehicles I’d be fine. They’re also unable to take a car fix it and bring it back in less than 9 months. @HardwareSavvy the new trucks look much safer in the back. The old LLV just have a steel wire holding the door up and down. Like very old thin steel wire, looks almost like a fishing line.
Where'd the cobalt come from for the batteries?
Slave child labor. Rare earth minerals are mostly from Africa, yes using children as slave labor.
They will use none cobalt batteries, we now are using sodium ion batteries, woke!
@@rodneycrawford4338 Where do you get that information? Please cite your source.
Same place oil comes from? The ground. At least it doesn’t burn up into a gas after you use it.
Instead of strictly fixing the problems our current vehicles have - the braking system, rear-wheel drive, no AC, and blinds spots [for the newbies], and leaving the rest well enough alone. They decided to invent a whole host of new problems, which at this time will be completely unfixable. How on earth is that thing going to take a bumpy dirt road or fit in any of our stations? Need I mention that I drove more than 100 miles today...
Bumpy dirt roads are handled by rural carriers who drive their personal vehicles.
The EV version has a range of 70 miles. There are also gas version for the longer and more rural routes. The big debate has been the proportion of EV versus gas. At the beginning, under Trump, it was 10% electric. Now, I believe it is like 65% EV.
Honestly they should add air conditioner some mail trucks don’t have A/C
Is this usps vehicle AWD???
Business routes and CBU/MBU routes will do well with this vehicle but Not too sure about curb side. Thats my postal geek comment for the day
OMG 70 miles!!! This thing hopefully doesn’t cost more than a golf cart!!!
59,000+ each unit.
The packages definitely will fall like a landslide.
All delivery trucks are pretty much the same.
@@cpovey1It’s just the way the parcels stacking up in the truck will fall like landslides. This is definitely the stupid management persons knowing nothing about how to arrange the parcels to prevent the landslides of parcels putting up for the show.
Who designed that truck? Fisher Price?
Form follows function
Exactly 😂
Ups is testing Rivian edv500! Do you know that? Why?
It's powered by hopes and dreams.
As a carrier in Maine, is it all wheel drive? Driving an LLV in snow is very stupid.
I would advise you move out. Maine sucks
They AC better blow hard. Cause with the delivery window open all day, you cant design the AC to cool the rig, just the driver.
He didn’t safely exit the vehicle
I want to work for the USPS, the NGDV looks like something from Pixar, if I work for them and have a position as a driver, I don't want to drive them, they would look better if they looked like the usps vans, or even the UPS or FedEx truck design would look better than this
Nice looking vehicle
If you're in the toystory movie😂
It's missing the basic necessities like a porta potty.
I'd love this.
The reason our mail is late 90% of the time is because the USPS is now trying to be a package delivery company now. It takes a lot more time to deliver packages than mail. Look at the ground clearance?!? 5 inches? I drove for UPS for 10 years.
Not really lol if your area doesn’t have an Amazon place to deliver there own Packages then yea it will take long but if you live somewhere with an Amazon place then the usps ppl get nothing for packages I sadly live in a place with no Amazon and I on my route get up to 300 packages everyday and it’s not fun with mail so they aren’t try to be a package company lol it’s just thrown at them and it’s easier to deliver packages then mail 😂
USPS is god tier, anyone who shames that try letting UPS or FedEX do the same job, USPS literally delivers 100 times the volume of UPS AND FedEx combined
USPS is the original "package delivery" company.
They gave up packages in the late 90s because they thought letter mail was the way to go.
Unfortunately, back then the brains of the outfit and I use the term "brains" extremely loosely, couldn't see email in the near distance so, the f*cked up. Now they're trying to get package delivery back so they can survive.
Problem with the P.O. is, it's a multi- billion dollar company ran by people with high school educations and no business degree.....
UPS pays the USPS to deliver packages on Sunday. Unfortunately, people don't really write letters anymore, send cards, or even get their bills in the mail. If it weren't for packages and junk mail the USPS would be in pretty bad shape, and you'd be lucky to even get your mail every day.
@@humantwotwentyone641 They are already in bad shape. Over the past 60 years, the USPS has had a budget deficit for all but 9 years.
The vehicle sits wayyyyy tooo low… did they ever think about how streets are in certain areas!??? I mean I’m smashing in an LLV around town… you basically have to to make it on time … these will be slow everything down… unless they plan on over hiring and that will spread out the load then maybe you wouldn’t have to have supervisors calling you all the time
Who's the manufacturer?
Oshkosh I believe.
What brand?
Yeah, what brand?
Definitely not Tesla.
Osh kosh. US defense contractor
Once the ac breaks it will stay broken. You don't really think they will fix it do you?? 😂
4x4?
Damn i'm still too tall As long as there's not a camera in the back Of the vehicle And it has good suspension. There shouldn't be an issue lot of pot holes lot of dirt roads where i'm at
I wonder how tall that guy is
I am 6’2” fam!
He said in the video.
What video did you watch?
Dang you’re tall!
😂 I work in the field as a letter carrier and clearly this vehicle is going off of looks only. They must not know that parking is already a pain for us b/c people like to double park especially in certain neighborhood where it’s crowded in certain cities soo, we are going to have a harder time finding parking and wasting more time looking for parking. In reality you cannot put the DPS aka letters with the trays in the front seat due to theft it belongs in the back truck on the ground you know that. To me it’s not worth it. The person that made this must not have been carrying letters for long to know that it’s too low at the bottom for cities like San Pedro or other cities with hills, the package set up will all fall out of place when you start to drive, the clearance for the top is going to be a problem… Money wasted…
Death Trap waiting to happen. Not enough Room. Way too Low to the Ground. Postmasters and Supervisors will have the Air Conditioner unhooked because they will be concerned you may spend a precious extra few minutes in it cooling off.
😂😂😂 Yes, my thoughts. They look like they gonna be comfortable!
@marchangel7462 I'm sure they will be more comfortable than the LLVs. Only bad thing is that if your Evil Supervisors see that you spending a few minutes after every Relay in that Air Conditioner on those 100 degrees they just have it unplugged because they will say you are wasting too much time in the Vehicle and it's Costing them Valuable Street Time minutes. I know in the Office I worked in they would do this. They were Nasty Evil Women that couldn't do the Job on the Street so they became Supervisors and tried to tell you how to do a Job they themselves couldn't do. Hard to Respect anyone like that.
They actually don't need to do that. Postal workers have devices they use for scanning and route info that also sends their location. When their location gets near your house, a delivery event is created, and that's how you can be notified of your package or mail delivery. Using those location "breadcrumbs", managers actually can already tell if you are sitting doing nothing. They even have certain data elements generated around this type of thing. Thankfully USPS workers are unionized so they do have protections and push back against certain things if they start getting misused.
@BryanStetson Yes you are right. I retired from the USPS a few years ago. That's what I am talking about when I mentioned if they see you spend a little extra time cooling off. Our Local Union is Weak.
70 mile range. Ok but from let's say avg 10 a.m till 6 p.m or later especially in the winter will it really last in range of miles I highly doubt it I'm not driving 17 miles in 20 mins I'm idling all day I just highly doubt 17 miles will only be 17 with a range of 70 theirs no way.
I worked for the post office for 29 hrs and 20 yrs ago they brought in electric vehicles made by ford about 15 of them. After about 10 months they took them all away with no explanation gave us back the old gas vehicles and crushed all of the electric ones. What a waste.
That's the usps I worked for 😂
It’s a gigantic POS that cannot do rural deliveries. Is it all wheel drive?
Wayy too big for mail delivery. For PARCEL/PACKAGE delivery, its perfect.
That's what usps is now...
@@fishjuice3987 Exactly
I don't think people realize how much power it takes to charge EV's
still more efficient than a gas vehicle
@@VictorMartinez-zf6dt Don't be ignorant to the facts. Ev's use up to 110lbs of lithium, 200 lbs of copper, 15 lbs of cobalt which all have to be mined. In turn, these mining practices are reason to cause major, and i mean major, environmental and humanitarian concerns. The earth simply does not have enough raw materials to supply mass EV production. So, define "efficient" because there's another side to that coin.
@@unaffiliated_x9279 L take. Electric cars can break even as low as 20K miles or as high as 90K miles. Either way these trucks will get much more use than that. Running these long term will be cheaper. I don’t see why my tax dollars should be wasted buying more expensive gas trucks unless necessary (particular routes and environments), just to support some BS ideology…
I dont think people realize lithium is not the only battery option and EV uses renewable energy, unlike fossil fuel, which will run out eventually, and the whole civilization will collapse if we keep depending on it.
@@unaffiliated_x9279 In the long run they are more efficient than gas powered vehicles, despite their higher use of some materials. According data from Argonne national laboratory, a “Tesla Model 3 only 13,500 miles to resolve any added harm to the environment caused by the EV's construction and operation when compared to a Toyota Corolla driven the same distance” The lifetime carbon footprint is lower than a gas car. Also, mining companies and car manufacturers are not working to address the mining problems and working to make it more efficient and ethically sourced. But even with the current traditional mining, the short and long term environmental impact of EVs are less than gas cars and are significantly more efficient at converting their fuel source into motion.
You're going to see alot of those upside down. Stevie Wonder can see that thing is topheavy. One sharp turn too fast is all it will take
I honestly think the shelves are annoying I'd be removing them maybe keep 2 higher up ones. Btw air conditioning? Ya but my window is open all day or the door getting out constantly
It's like the promaster
@@fishjuice3987 the promasters get stuck in 1 inch of snow with a slight ice covering complete trash
Now if only the supervisors would let us do our jobs in peace and not complain about every minute we go over on our breaks and focus their attention on getting new hires that they don't over work and quit within a week. Just because you can do something with technology doesn't mean you should. Stop the surveillance. Leave the carriers alone who show up everyday.
70 miles ok
I know I was shocked to hear that, too. But after what he's said, it is understandable.
Carrier here. 70 miles would be more than enough for our routes.
Okay
It not good because wtf you do if you have 15 big package😂 pluses route aren't that short like he say. My 982 stop 4 apartment in it and I drive 38 mile
As a rural carrier, I am not looking forward to driving these.
Oshkosh don't they make baby clothes? How much this thing weigh? What safety measures have been taken to protect the driver for the inextinguishable lithium fire? I bet this thing would kill another gas driver in a smaller vehicle if there was a wreck.
Not good for ellijay Georgia we have big routes and lots of offroad routes
They always bankrupt. Where they getting this money to build all this? I'm sure everything will be costing more now. Glad i don't really ever use them anymore.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
i think that these evs will be a massive success for the post office!!
Great overview, but that design is so ugly IMO. It almost feels intentionally bad...
Haha IKR? Almost like the cyber truck. Made to look dorky on purpose. But I kind of like it.
It looks like something from a cartoon.
No one will want to take it joyriding,
Goofy ahh ohia van
These trucks will be out on the road within 2028 😂 i work for USPS 😅 can’t wait for these trucks 😢
A civilian version would be great, I'd buy one.
Nobody wants electric mail trucks especially in the cold witch is nearly everywhere in the United States beyond stupid 🙄
Oh my god the back loading configuration is like the pro van. This is going to be a horrible vehicle 🤦🏻♂️
"our drivers didnt have the range left to make your delivery! it will be postponed for 2 more days"
cant wait
As stupid as it looks, it does seem very practical for curbside delivery, unlike that ungodly piece of trash Mercedes minivan.
I just wish it didn't look so stupid lol
Fortnite car
If you get ashes in your mailbox you know what happend.
😲👎
The post office can barley maintain a 40 year old mail truck an we're going electric? An have electric charging stations at old buildings? What a scam lie
Exactly. We have OLD ass buildings and tight parking. Some stations you have to park your postal vehicle on the street over night due to not enough parking spaces.
@paulcorreggio4925 yeah and the fact they think we can just "upgrade our post offices" is a joke have they not seen how long it takes to even adjust a route and remove / add wings or even maintain a NBU for replacing keys this electric vehicle I'd a scam
..... Y'know, I find that design more stupid. I mean look at it. HOW ARE YOU SAFE FROM COLLIDING IN THE FRONT!?
Maybe they should've just made modifications to the current USPS truck. Cuz I won't lie, the new ones are just inviting someone stupid enough to ram frontally into that poorly protected truck.
Ahh a non mail carrier reviewing a mail truck. Now let's the adults explain that this abomination is the wrong viechle for many routes, it's too big and will make the 100 u turns we make a day on our routes a nightmare. There too low to the ground for bumpy roads. The staged back end with no 40 pound bags of dog food from Amazon. The USPS chose wrong with this one and now we have to pay for they mistakes.
The low clearance is a big issue. I'm a rural carrier, and in our office, we got a lot of rough roads. There are a lot of positives to this one though. The shelves, as long as they can be adjusted or detached completely, would be nice. It looks like the tray up front will be able to move. The door slides back instead of opening up. I'd like to see this in person to see how big it is compared to our LLVs.
@@JordanLofgren434 There needs to be room up front below the tray to be efficient/ Hopefully we can remove the tray underneath. The stick design for the door is awful. The cca's will destroy that door handle in a month. Standing up in back is pointless, I just need to grab my parcels and keep it moving.
@@NirvanaMK Agreed on needing the room below the tray. In the LLV, I use the space under the tray for outgoing mail and the markers from my cased mail for packages. also can fit a hod of larger SPRs under it. What they shoulda done was invited a good number of actual mail carriers to help design it. It looks like they had a lot more input than with the Metris.
An EV paid for by government contracts to a company that has never made an EV that also does business with the Post Master General? 🤔 corrupt much?
I hope they sell burger on that vee hee kol
Will get stuck in snow
Yes it will
Definitely a New Look for the Postal Service and its Called "FAILURE" just like the direction the USPS is heading in. And this EV Definitely will be a Failure.
Do you not understand the concept of a concept car?
No room for trays of mail. Extremely poor design
I hope I retire before we get this POS forced upon us! Not 1 vehicle had been decent since the LLV came out. Over and over they strike out. Again management is clueless buying crap like the last scanners.
that thing is ugly looking
Only fifteen miles a day? Walk it and save the money! Lazy bum. (wink)
So we deliver to an entire zip code. Not all routes are going to be near the station. And given how much emphasis is placed on package delivery, it a little hard to haul all of those large heavy boxes you guys so love to have by foot.
That being said the procedure is thus: drive to the beginning of the route and park. Deliver the mail and and small packages that you can carry on foot. Return to the vehicle and deliver and large ungainly boxes that are impossible to walk( or for those households that purchase 5 to 10 items a day, it's more efficient to drive it off than waste satchel space on just one house of shop a holics). Continue onto the next part of the route, and repeat.
Routes are about 6 hrs long, although the Post Offfice is starting to make them 7hrs long. The remainder of the day is office time setting up the route, breaks and lunch.
Our government has sent way too much money to Ukraine fighting a proxy war to be able to afford a fleet of these.