Just finished a build with this case (white version) yesterday. 14 fans and yes, the (RGB + PWR + Hubs) cabling was challenging. Lots of ordering and reordering of cables and adapters and extenders from Amazon indeed. Also needed to get a PCI card for USB 3.0 connectors for front panel; there are two connections and my MSI WX only had one header. MSi WS WRX80 E-ATX motherboard, 14 Corsair QL fans (six for the 360mm push/pull vertical radiator assisting the H150i AIO cooler with ELiTE Digital CPU screen). Four 140 QLs -- two on top for exhaust and two more on undersides of the two horizontal "floor" plates to help push air up into the case. Four 120 QLs; two vertically-mounted behind the lower-front plate as intakes and two on the rear as exhaust. An eVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra video card and an AMD Threadripper PRO 5995wx CPU (64 cores) round-out this crazy build. Love this case. It's a work of art
I did something similar, but only used 11 QL fans. Two 120s sucking at the front grill, two 140s pushing through the floor, three 120s pushing on the left side ( I reversed that panel so the glass is towards the back of the case), two 140s pushing out the top and then I swapped the fans on a Noctua Uh12a for two 120 QLs. Seems to work. I dont overclock. Took quite a bit to configure the wiring for the fans, it sure would be nice if they gave you an extra foot or two of cable to work with. Absolutely love this case, it made the build really stand out.
I find that case a bit too big personally but I do like the change in design from the standard box cases we see all the time. It would be a great showcase PC if you are thinking of doing a really high end build in it mind.
I can't see how external cables are attached to the MB rear panel ports. like cable of GPU ? I'm wondering about the rear where the Display Port cables go into your motherboard/cards. Please let us know.
Hi, Mike. I am so tempted to buy this case and do duel water-cooling loops in it. The price is quite reasonable at $180. That is less than I have paid for the last three cases I bought.
Certainly interesting and kudos to them for doing things different, but for me, it would be a giant waste of space. Whilst I’m open to new form factors and layouts, I can’t get past this design looking fairly ugly. Looks far too clunky for my liking. Quality looks great though.
Sooooooooooooooo many possibilities for this bad boy. Magnificent case but you would need to fill all that space to make it a worthwhile purchase. I reckon this would look good with an 80s colour scheme......give it a chance to show off all those bright colours etc. Actually, maybe a Borg build in this would be more fitting, its about the same size and weight as a Borg cube lol.
request help gentlemen THERMALTAKE, Please can you tell me how to connect the 4 USB ports at the same time of this Refrigerator Type Cabinet. I ask because I just built this gamer PC with this case and the technician only connects a single USB 3.0 cable to the board, the exchange is carried out and if he connects one cable he does not connect the other, the problem is that it comes with two USB 3.0 cables. please help.
I can imagine this looking fantastic with a custom water cooling loop, loads of open space to route your tubes exactly where you want and loads of glass to show it off. I went for the Tower 200 which fits my needs much better, but this would be a great option for someone with those ambitious kinds of plans.
I can't find a single video of anyone hooking this thing up to a monitor. Like where the hell is the IO from the motherboard and where is the GPU access? 😶
@@mikesunboxing thank you. I finally found a reddit post explaining this. I'm building in this case this week when all my parts arrive and I was staring at scratching my head even after reading the manual about how you would hook things up lol
Could you possibly review the be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Black, Mid Tower ATX case really want to buy it but need a review on RUclips no other people go in great detail like you lmk what you think and if you would
Thermaltake should keep their cheap fans and add the extra fan brackets and I also like the hex holes over the long holes as hex is more open. I think the side panels should be full mesh on one side and 50% on the other.
So make it look like every other PC tower out there? The thing that makes the case unique is the panoramic glass on all sides that no other case has. You might as well get another case, cause this one ain’t for you.
It is also just the right size to modify by laying down the motherboard and cutting off 1/3 of the top similar to the Thermaltake Core V21 but in ATX then all I would have to do is get 1 piece of glass for the front.@@ToxicHAL
I'm wondering about the rear where the DisplayPort etc cables go into your motherboard/cards. I'd rather not have a big gaping hole there(don't want insects or whatever flying/climbing in). Why couldn't they put those rubber 'holes' there like there are next to the motherboard for motherboard power cable etc?
Quality case with massive amount of flexibility for sure. Not sure i would want the gubbins or cabling on show but i guess its bottom intake with top exhaust so hence all glass to front. Too complicated for my skillset & 2bh way out of my price and league. Thank you for thorough review Mike & Kath👍
Many thanks for posting such an incredibly in-depth review. You have shown me how bad this case design is so I can honestly give it a miss for the system I want to build.
@@mikesunboxing Thanks for the suggestion, but I need larger rather than smaller. I'm building a dual-cpu workstation and looking to air-cool it rather than liquid-cool it because motherboards for such systems are designed for a certain minimum airflow over them. Water cooling may solve the CPU (and possibly GPU) heat issues, but not the motherboard itself. I've built several such such systems over the years. It took a lot of research and experimentation on my part to learn how to do it and make it work reliably. My current build is over ten years old and has been my workhorse for both work and gaming pleasure! And, yes they can be rather good for gaming if you're prepared for a not-very-plug-and-play experience that pays off in the end in being able to run both the game's server and the game on the same system with multiple users and no loss of performance. I watch and read a lot of case reviews in the hope of finding something that will do the job better and make the build easier. But then I see case manufacturers building what is essentially the same case, with the same mistakes and poor design decisions when it comes to optimizing airflow and therefore cooling efficiency. Basic issues include bifurcating the airflow by having fans at 90 degrees to each other which always reduces performance, and not thinking the airflow path right through the case by having partially blocked off fans or good ventilation at one end of the airflow path and poor to almost non-existent ventilation at the other end. On the other hand, I've always found It necessary to carefully blank-off specific ventilation ports in cases of various builds to optimize the airflow through the case so that the heat transfer from all components is the best it can be. The most common failure in case design is to make no effort to direct airflow at components requiring cooling. There should be some airflow aimed towards the motherboard itself for chipset, RAM and other board-level cooling such as removing heat directed straight into the motherboard and its components from the GPU. If so much is put into these cases then why are no fans aimed towards the motherboard itself or any basic flow guides to direct airflow? I've used the louvered part of a tumble-drier vent as a simple and cost effective way to direct airflow when fitted to an intake fan. If such a thing was made specifically for PC fans as a proper part this would improve cooling when used inside a case and reduce noise if used externally by directing sound towards something soft or padded, such as carpet if the system was on the floor. It would cost pence to make, would either clip or screw onto the fan, and significantly improve cooling as well as looking 'cool'.
Mike, any ideas why case prices have really gone up and often times are out of stock, when other component prices are good right now and even dropping? Thank you.
Bit overkill but I do love the design. After the build I did for the production studio at work I am probably going to go with Fractal Torrent. That was an absolute joy to work with.
@@cloggedpitot1 the ports at the back of the mobo! how do you access them in this caseÉ it looks like there isnt an open are exposing them in this case
@@cloggedpitot1 well you see how the motherboard is screwed against the back, the the back ports of the mobo facing the top.... how do you access the hdmi, usb, ethernet. those ports in the back of the mobo..
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take a closer look at the removeable floor plates, you can mount fans under them for more static pressure
2001: A Space Odyssey, monkeys should have been touching this case instead.
😂🔥😊
Just finished a build with this case (white version) yesterday. 14 fans and yes, the (RGB + PWR + Hubs) cabling was challenging. Lots of ordering and reordering of cables and adapters and extenders from Amazon indeed. Also needed to get a PCI card for USB 3.0 connectors for front panel; there are two connections and my MSI WX only had one header.
MSi WS WRX80 E-ATX motherboard, 14 Corsair QL fans (six for the 360mm push/pull vertical radiator assisting the H150i AIO cooler with ELiTE Digital CPU screen). Four 140 QLs -- two on top for exhaust and two more on undersides of the two horizontal "floor" plates to help push air up into the case. Four 120 QLs; two vertically-mounted behind the lower-front plate as intakes and two on the rear as exhaust. An eVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra video card and an AMD Threadripper PRO 5995wx CPU (64 cores) round-out this crazy build. Love this case. It's a work of art
wow that is quite the system!
I'd hope so for the money you splashed out on it lol
I did something similar, but only used 11 QL fans. Two 120s sucking at the front grill, two 140s pushing through the floor, three 120s pushing on the left side ( I reversed that panel so the glass is towards the back of the case), two 140s pushing out the top and then I swapped the fans on a Noctua Uh12a for two 120 QLs. Seems to work. I dont overclock. Took quite a bit to configure the wiring for the fans, it sure would be nice if they gave you an extra foot or two of cable to work with. Absolutely love this case, it made the build really stand out.
@@cloggedpitot1 Sounds great!
Lmao 14 fans
I find that case a bit too big personally but I do like the change in design from the standard box cases we see all the time. It would be a great showcase PC if you are thinking of doing a really high end build in it mind.
Totally agree
I can't see how external cables are attached to the MB rear panel ports. like cable of GPU ?
I'm wondering about the rear where the Display Port cables go into your motherboard/cards. Please let us know.
out the top section and out through the rubber grommet
Hi, Mike. I am so tempted to buy this case and do duel water-cooling loops in it. The price is quite reasonable at $180. That is less than I have paid for the last three cases I bought.
i would love to hear your thoughts on it after a build in it
@@mikesunboxing I"m not 100% I will. But I am tempted. I might pull my TT Level 20 HT out of the closet and mod the hell out of that instead.
Certainly interesting and kudos to them for doing things different, but for me, it would be a giant waste of space. Whilst I’m open to new form factors and layouts, I can’t get past this design looking fairly ugly. Looks far too clunky for my liking. Quality looks great though.
yeah there is something about the design that still needs work i feel. also the inverted atx layout never really works well for me
Sooooooooooooooo many possibilities for this bad boy. Magnificent case but you would need to fill all that space to make it a worthwhile purchase. I reckon this would look good with an 80s colour scheme......give it a chance to show off all those bright colours etc. Actually, maybe a Borg build in this would be more fitting, its about the same size and weight as a Borg cube lol.
a borg cube would be a great idea, maybe one day
request help gentlemen THERMALTAKE, Please can you tell me how to connect the 4 USB ports at the same time of this Refrigerator Type Cabinet. I ask because I just built this gamer PC with this case and the technician only connects a single USB 3.0 cable to the board, the exchange is carried out and if he connects one cable he does not connect the other, the problem is that it comes with two USB 3.0 cables. please help.
You need a good motherboard with two ports or a pcie expansion card with more ports on it
I can imagine this looking fantastic with a custom water cooling loop, loads of open space to route your tubes exactly where you want and loads of glass to show it off.
I went for the Tower 200 which fits my needs much better, but this would be a great option for someone with those ambitious kinds of plans.
Cool idea
My Gigabyte Aero RTX 4090 wouldn't fit in this thing. I had to take out the PSU cover from the bottom.
nice rig mr white
I am actually able to buy this, but I won't. Added a LIKE though.
thermaltake have a really good global distribution network
10:41 , also check the width of your rad, an NZXT X62 for example is too wide to actually fit ...learned that the hard way.
thanks for the heads up
I can't find a single video of anyone hooking this thing up to a monitor. Like where the hell is the IO from the motherboard and where is the GPU access? 😶
it is at the top under the mesh vent
@@mikesunboxing thank you. I finally found a reddit post explaining this. I'm building in this case this week when all my parts arrive and I was staring at scratching my head even after reading the manual about how you would hook things up lol
Clearly not for the ITX enthusiast. Great video thanks Mike.
yes even the 100 was big for an itx
Currently 150 bucks on Amazon. Might buy it.
that is not a bad price for what you get
can you use a vertical gpu kit to have the GPU facing frontwards?
no sorry
Could you possibly review the be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Black, Mid Tower ATX case really want to buy it but need a review on RUclips no other people go in great detail like you lmk what you think and if you would
i'll see what i can do
@@mikesunboxing thanks I appreciate it lmk what happens
definitely too big for mid case, otherwise very capable case
yeah it does take up a lot of room. not really designed with smaller uk homes in mind
Like it or Love it. But Mike show things not many do.
saves your time & money.
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@@mikesunboxing as always, Willy's Support comment is worthy of support.
@@PapaMav Thanks James 🙂
You'll have to have a bloody big desk to put that on
a really big desk!
Can you put radiators on the side lower areas? Or just the front.
some smaller 240mm aios might fit in the front,but the sides i don't know sorry
"an absolute ton of IO"
*has a completely bog-standard amount of IO*
well either you haven't seen many cases or need an optician
@@mikesunboxing I just haven't seen many cases without that exact IO, minus the usb-c, even cheapo amazon shite, that's all
Thermaltake should keep their cheap fans and add the extra fan brackets and I also like the hex holes over the long holes as hex is more open. I think the side panels should be full mesh on one side and 50% on the other.
So make it look like every other PC tower out there? The thing that makes the case unique is the panoramic glass on all sides that no other case has.
You might as well get another case, cause this one ain’t for you.
It is also just the right size to modify by laying down the motherboard and cutting off 1/3 of the top similar to the Thermaltake Core V21 but in ATX then all I would have to do is get 1 piece of glass for the front.@@ToxicHAL
I'm wondering about the rear where the DisplayPort etc cables go into your motherboard/cards. I'd rather not have a big gaping hole there(don't want insects or whatever flying/climbing in). Why couldn't they put those rubber 'holes' there like there are next to the motherboard for motherboard power cable etc?
yes that is a good point
Could you tell me if a 4090 fits in there? ?
yes it should do
Excellent and insightful video
thats one nice case... cheers
thanks buddy
i like it the bigger the better
you would love the 900 then
Quality case with massive amount of flexibility for sure. Not sure i would want the gubbins or cabling on show but i guess its bottom intake with top exhaust so hence all glass to front. Too complicated for my skillset & 2bh way out of my price and league. Thank you for thorough review Mike & Kath👍
it is something to work with, and takes a bit of thought to plan out and visualise, not everyone's cpu of tea, but still very cool
Looks primed ready for a 27" monitor panel replacement? Good review as usual! 😀
modding really isn't my thing, i don't have the space or patience to see it through. one day i'll have a garage or workshop and it will be awesome
Is sfx psu ok with this case?
yes but you will need to use the adapter to make it ATX
"It's huge. It's absolutely massive".
That's what she said.
she 100% didn't even though it has been rather warm here recently
Thanks Mike. You have the most detailed reviews of PC cases, appreciate that.
Glad you like them! we don't go crazy on airflow and temps, but the stuff you want to know as a builder
Many thanks for posting such an incredibly in-depth review. You have shown me how bad this case design is so I can honestly give it a miss for the system I want to build.
Take a look at the 200 that looks much better to me
@@mikesunboxing Thanks for the suggestion, but I need larger rather than smaller. I'm building a dual-cpu workstation and looking to air-cool it rather than liquid-cool it because motherboards for such systems are designed for a certain minimum airflow over them. Water cooling may solve the CPU (and possibly GPU) heat issues, but not the motherboard itself.
I've built several such such systems over the years. It took a lot of research and experimentation on my part to learn how to do it and make it work reliably. My current build is over ten years old and has been my workhorse for both work and gaming pleasure! And, yes they can be rather good for gaming if you're prepared for a not-very-plug-and-play experience that pays off in the end in being able to run both the game's server and the game on the same system with multiple users and no loss of performance.
I watch and read a lot of case reviews in the hope of finding something that will do the job better and make the build easier. But then I see case manufacturers building what is essentially the same case, with the same mistakes and poor design decisions when it comes to optimizing airflow and therefore cooling efficiency.
Basic issues include bifurcating the airflow by having fans at 90 degrees to each other which always reduces performance, and not thinking the airflow path right through the case by having partially blocked off fans or good ventilation at one end of the airflow path and poor to almost non-existent ventilation at the other end. On the other hand, I've always found It necessary to carefully blank-off specific ventilation ports in cases of various builds to optimize the airflow through the case so that the heat transfer from all components is the best it can be.
The most common failure in case design is to make no effort to direct airflow at components requiring cooling. There should be some airflow aimed towards the motherboard itself for chipset, RAM and other board-level cooling such as removing heat directed straight into the motherboard and its components from the GPU. If so much is put into these cases then why are no fans aimed towards the motherboard itself or any basic flow guides to direct airflow?
I've used the louvered part of a tumble-drier vent as a simple and cost effective way to direct airflow when fitted to an intake fan. If such a thing was made specifically for PC fans as a proper part this would improve cooling when used inside a case and reduce noise if used externally by directing sound towards something soft or padded, such as carpet if the system was on the floor. It would cost pence to make, would either clip or screw onto the fan, and significantly improve cooling as well as looking 'cool'.
Mike, any ideas why case prices have really gone up and often times are out of stock, when other component prices are good right now and even dropping? Thank you.
Cases being large items have a massive increase in shipping costs so that is having an effect right now, shipping containers are crazy expensive now
@@mikesunboxing thank you, makes sense. Yes, the crazy shipping container prices have been skyrocketing since the onset of the pandemic.
Bit overkill but I do love the design. After the build I did for the production studio at work I am probably going to go with Fractal Torrent. That was an absolute joy to work with.
look forward to using a torrent at some point
Thermaltake make some freaky designed cases, but all i want is an updated Core V1 and V21.
yes v21 has sort of been updated last year with the side split model, but needs a little more really
@@mikesunboxing Nah those divider cases aint it, overpriced-hotboxes. Great vid btw..
Looks good.
It does!
i love it
thanks! appreciate the comment
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Good take, nice video.
Thank you very much!
Mike are reviewing the Coolermaster 700 evo?
sorry never heard of it, i'll try and take a look
@@mikesunboxing its a big ass case. From there Haf series.
Finished a build with this case. Absolutely love it! They really made it nice wot work on.
how do you access the mobo inputs
@@OOHDAT which ones?
@@cloggedpitot1 the ports at the back of the mobo! how do you access them in this caseÉ it looks like there isnt an open are exposing them in this case
@@OOHDAT Really not sure which ports you are referring to. Can you name the ports?
@@cloggedpitot1 well you see how the motherboard is screwed against the back, the the back ports of the mobo facing the top.... how do you access the hdmi, usb, ethernet. those ports in the back of the mobo..