As someone who once walked home intending to write a suicide letter, I'll say this. The thing that stopped me was that a friend saw me walking and stopped me in my tracks. She asked me what was bothering me because my pain was written on my face. She listened. She empathized with me. She gave me a hug and told me that she would be there to help me through it and that I wasn't alone. After that, she checked on me daily, told me that she loved me and that she was here for me. Because of that, I changed my mind and decided that it might be worth it to stick around and hope for better days ahead. I didn't have a chemical imbalance in my brain. I was miserable, alone, going thru a hard time, and hitting a wall every time I tried to get my life back together. There is no medication for terrible life circumstances. The only thing that gets you through that is the love and support of people who care about you. We need to bring people back together as a community, start empathizing with one another, and start showing people we care about them.
What if there is no one? And sick with chronic pain yet no home? And must care for two cats that live with a really mean person that does nothing for the cats so I live there and slave for this mean person so that the cats will be okay?
Good point. True community is a sparse thing nowadays. We willfully isolate and wallow in superficial relationships online. While some of these connections can be real, mostly they are not. Real empathy, real community comes with real sacrifice or the self with the intent of being part a greater whole. Religion can do a lot to make a community, but just being a friend can get you there too. A real friend, like the one you described.
I did not have that kinda love or support.As what was left of my family was falling apart.So I spent time running from something,I could not run from as it's embedded in my head.Didnt matter where I ran, couldn't get away from that image.But I'm great full you are still with us and having a good friend during that time,made all the difference for you.Stay strong in those times . Don't let it get you.I believe there is a purpose for you and me.Not sure what but I keep that in mind.You are very kind.
It’s sad that we have made our lives like this, people would rather die than live the life we created. We are completely disconnected with nature and earth and live in fake societies doing things we all don’t wanna do because the people before us made them “normal” or “the social norm”. I personally struggle with this here in Southern Utah, and have my whole entire life. I’ve personally lost 8 friends to suicide. The society we have created feels wrong
You are right. This isn't natrual. And it seems like we are going in the wrong direction. It is depressing, but it is our job to put out good vibrations back into the universe to possibly help those who lost hope.
I loved the last time I made a suicide hotline call. She asked if I needed to talk to someone in real life. I said yes. Then cops drag me to mental health facility. Then I got better....but wait for it...then got a nice letter about a medical bill. The thoughts blew up again. Thankfully I never paid and moved to a different state where a friend helped me get back on my feet.
When I called they sent some men to my home who then handed me a paper on who to reach out to if im feeling depressed. Maybe the hotline is just a directional help service?
I wonder if the dispatcher thought you might've been a threat to others. Whenever I've admitted my depression to my Doctors they always ask me that question.
When a country's citizens get to the point where they'd rather be dead than continue in this society, it might be a good idea to re-think our handling of healthcare, education, shelter, food, mental health treatment and needed taxes to cover such things. What's the use of billions in defense spending, when people feel their lives are too unhappy to defend anymore?
I had classes with Lyle when this happened. He used to help me work on my car. He was a nice kid. Rest in peace. I've lost my dad and sister to suicide in Casper, Wyoming. There's a heavy dark energy in that state. It's heartbreaking. Really hopeful for this program.
Could it be that the isolation, the lack of connection with the world is a part of the problem? I wonder if diet and poor nutrition, lack of sun and cultural mindset adds to it.
Ever heard of organized stalking, cointelpro operation. Community policing. MK ULTRA, Secret Spying of the CIA, FBI and NSA handed down to the most dangerous and corrupt force. The local officials and corrupt police.
I moved to AZ from NY in 09 and my neighbors were from Wyoming. I remember the daughter saying the same thing you just did, there's a dark energy about it. And then she went on about some rolling road you bring your car too and it moves on its own, and some other weird stuff.
brought me to tears. lost my mom to suicide 4 years ago. i’ve never been the same. i’m only 19 i wish i could do more to stop stigma. my heart goes out to all of those who are survivors ❤️
Sorry for your loss. But be on guard, beware that when something like that happens in the family, it can happen to others next. If I were you, I would dedicate myself to Christ and live a life connected to him. He is the only one that can give us a real purpose in life and can give us peace a midst any suffering.
The past generations who didn't have the resources to help and had the mentality that if you didn't talk about it, it would go away. It all went away but the gift of the symptoms, which then lost a reason, and just cause a malaise that doesn't quit and seems just a part of life.
The should impose to lose weight first, then that's the big first step to all these problems, if not they'll be surprised even these helpers/councilor/concerned staffs they themselves are having suicidal thoughts but they are just good in keeping it under the rug.
Unfortunately even when you do ask for help, people usually don’t care. It’s only when you’re dead that they wish they would of done something. When I was going through a hard time, I called family members just so they can talk to me and they couldn’t care less. Never herd from them till this day.
Same. It was tough during the pandemic. I live in Seattle and I live alone. I was so isolated for about 2 years. The few friends and family I reached out to didn't care either. They told me to find a therapist. I still distant myself from everyone.
I have always found this to be true.....when you get into the very pits and darkness of depression no one wants to hear you or even be around you as at that time you are seen as just needy and weak....they for the most part want to get away from you....don't want to deal with it....and depression can spiral into a very very dark very excruciatingly dark place of which there seems to be no escape so very overwhelming and sometimes one gets to that dark hard cold precipice and cannot pull themselves back in time and one would do just about anything to escape that place....
The same thing happens in my family. Their hearts are so cold that their love is nonexistent. So sorry you went through that but God said that love would wax cold in these last days.
This is the reason why people need to stop bringing children in this pathetic world. This world is filled with greed and self centered human beings. Stop making babies.
@@rawkneepea5973 when was the TRUTH negative? The truth hurts and unfortunately for you, you can't handle the truth. So keep living in your delusional thinking.
The help is not out there. There are NOT enough mental health professionals. Anywhere. Any state. Loneliness must be far more destructive in isolation. Idaho and Wyoming really struck me as lonesome.
It’s not about the state people in New York City can feel extremely alone and isolated. Imagine the compounding effect of sadness when you’re surrounded by people who don’t care? You’re not literally alone but you may as well be.
@@Americano3232330 it is about the state. The state literally dictates what they will support with tax payer dollars and what they don't. Some states spend more money on healthcare (this include mental health) than other states. And some states even have come up with a plan to get people to where they need to go. But mental health can make you lonely no matter who or how many people you are with.
As the father of a suicide victim, I can tell you one thing that can work wonders to get them over the "hump", and keep them alive. TALK to your children, no matter how old they are. Keep them in your thoughts, but also talk to them. Let them know that they are not alone. And do this often. If you don't, you may join the same club that I'm in. A club member that talks to an empty place at the table, a club member that still--twenty-three years later-- makes too much food when cooking, and wishes that he'd spent more time listening.
Existence on Earth is meaningless. People should be able to choose if they wish to exit the "ride", because they sure as flunckin' hell didn't get to choose entering it. Some humans "find success" and wonderful $#1+ falls into their laps all day long, every month, and every year. Others are just CONSTANTLY F'ed decade after decade. It gets old, monotonous, stupid, and POINTLESS. Let them *GO*. Allow them to be free, because it's not your daemn choice, anyhow. Ya friggin' narcissists, lol. 😂🤣😂
My buddy used to rodeo in Wyoming. He said a lot of his friends would die from suicide in Wyoming all the time. I asked him why so many would die from suicide ? He said it's because the wind never stop out there. I didn't understand until now what he really meant. Life never stop coming at these men with no reprieve.
@@Thought_Police It is given more respect in New England rather than shitholes like Wyoming. I feel no pity for the idiots who decide to live in shitholes, vote in idiot shithole leaders, and do nothing to protect themselves against the world. The problem will solve itself, when everyone in Wyoming has finished their lead dinners
Blaming the wind for something as drastic as suicide sounds like something they'd do if they're afraid of some genuine introspection and figuring out whats truly eating away at them. I can't really imagine someone of a healthy mindset would completely end their life because of windy weather when they know well they can just re-locate.
The states with the highest rates of suicide tends to be rural, have majority low income White and Native American populations, didn't expand Medicaid under the ACA, and have very weak firearm laws and regulations. Until these truths are faced head on, the suicide epidemic will continue unabated.
@@nunya8903 Men who owned handguns were eight times more likely than men who didn’t to die of self-inflicted gunshot wounds. Women who owned handguns were more than 35 times more likely than women who didn't to kill themselves with a gun. While prior studies have found higher rates of suicide among people who live in homes with a gun, these studies have been relatively small in scale and the risk estimates have varied. The Stanford study is the largest to date, and it’s the first to track risks from the day of an owner’s first handgun acquisition. “Our findings confirm what virtually every study that has investigated this question over the last 30 years has concluded: Ready access to a gun is a major risk factor for suicide,” said the study’s lead author, David Studdert, LLB, ScD, MPH, professor of medicine at Stanford Health Policy and of law at Stanford Law School.
It always baffles be that people have such trust in thinking that counselors will solve anything. For some it might, but as someone who have known people who have killed themselves and people who have survived attempted suicides (often to continue living lives that often has me wondering if it wouldn’t have been better for them to have died) I find myself thinking that it’s ironic, at least in the country where I live, that we throw enormous sums of money on mental health care, but are very unwilling to accept people who are different, help people who struggle to make it month to month financially, etc. If we don’t want people to kill themselves perhaps we should work on making society a little more bearable to live in, not throw all the resources into stopping people from killing themselves when they have nothing. At that point, perhaps suicide is the most rational option. When you’re older, extremely lonely, perhaps living in poverty and maybe declining health, what exactly is it you are supposed to live for? Maybe instead work on a society that doesn’t put people in that position.
Thank you. Seriously, thank you. Someone needed to speak reality. You described my life. I'm just biding my time. If it wasn't for my son I would have done it already. I keep going through the motions for him. Anyway, thank you.✌🏻💙🆓
@MultiCatster You are very welcome. I’m sorry to hear that you are living this. I’m not going to spew the regular crap I see people come up with when talking to complete strangers they don’t know anything about who says they have thoughts of suicide like “you have so much to live for”, “life is totally worth living you just can’t see it right now” or “I promise it will get better”. If you feel like you have nothing (except your son) to live for then that is likely true, and I am in no position to be promising you that anything will get better, I absolutely know that in many cases it doesn’t. I will say that I respect you for your sense of responsibility for your son. I _hope_ there are things you can do to improve your situation, but I also know that that’s not always the case. In any case saying things like “maybe you should find some help and talk to someone” seems genuinely provocative and patronising, so I am not going to say that. How is talking to someone going to help you pay your bills? How is it going to make life less of a constant struggle? I think most people contemplating suicide (which they often do for years before they actually commit suicide) often know what would make their lives worth living, but the obstacles are just too great and over time the constant struggle of keeping your head just above the water just wears people down. And that’s the endpoint: that is not the point at which people need help. They need it 15 years earlier, so that they can envision a future for themselves and have some quality in their lives _before_ they are completely broken. I do hope things get better for you, and you are really being responsible towards your son for getting up every morning for him. That’s probably quite the struggle, I applaud you for doing all you can.
@@josephinenilsson1541 thank you for avoiding the toxic positivity. If talking helped, I'd be cured already. I'm 58, broke most of the time, unhealthy physically and mentally, have no friends, no social life, no one to grow older with, I'm watching my country go backwards and all our freedoms, rights, and acceptance slip away, my youth has slipped away, and my future looks darker every damn day. (I hope I'm still allowed to say damn.) I don't belong in this world anymore, if I ever did in the first place. My view of what life should be like for everyone is far too advanced for most people on this planet. Look at me spilling my pain out on the interwebs. 😬 I'm just tired of it all. So. Very. Tired. 😩
The only way to combat this is to put more emphasis on community. American suburbs are isolating and depressing as hell. It certainly doesn't help that they're in Wyoming. Back when humans actually lived in close-knit communities, you knew most everyone and could talk your problems out with others. However in suburbs, people are left to wallow in their own dark thoughts.
@@fm-9129 I think what makes cities different is you are more likely to interact with people making you less likely to be lonely while suburbs and rural areas can be very boring if you don't have access to transportation.
Because so many (probably MOST) people are competing with each other, guarded, afraid of being too honest/real/vulnerable, and therefore, not sharing from the heart. I wish you good luck and real, beautiful connections...real, loving and mutually supportive relationships.
You can thank women’s movements.. feminism and their entitlement here in first world countries making all these laws against men from being men . Causing more loneliness for everyone
It has to be pointed out that this country has backwards priorities in terms of government investments. The government spends far more on weapons and warfare than on healthcare, health and wellness. This spending contributes to more PTSD, more deaths, and more rapid climate change (as the military industrial complex is the largest polluter on the planet). This lifeline was inspired by veterans, who are a population that is directly effected by both warfare and suicide. The roots of the problem need unearthing and addressing.
You're wrong America spends 5x more in healthcare than the military. In fact, I'd argue the biggest expenditure in the military is healthcare for the millions of Americans it employs.
No, America actually spends far more on the military/defense budget than we do on healthcare. Yet it is true that we spend 5x more money on healthcare than other developed countries, but our health outcomes are noticeably worse than those countries. The big reason for that is because it's funded by the capitalist market and not a government sponsored universal healthcare plan like Canada and much of Europe.
That's because we have presence in so many other countries. We need to back off and focus on ourselves. Other countries don't spend that much on military because they rely on us to pick up their slack.
I am myself 33 years old and some thoughts never go away, there is no scape. In my case leaving my family back in El Salvador when I moved here to LA and my sister has been missing for 14 years takes a lot. Everyone lives their lives based on their own truth whatever that may be. My brother 21 and other sister 20 just got their green card and moved March 2022 here in North Hollywood that makes me happy 🙂
@@raven-cy1bt My dad brought me here at age of 15 I didn’t know him or my step siblings, I was separated from mom, my younger brother and sister. Finally 13 years later after hard work all 3 of them have the green card. I am thrill about this 2022 😎
When my family was moving to Kansas from Oregon, I had to drive through Wyoming. But the second we crossed the state border in, I started feeling a strange sensation. But as we made our way through the state it kept growing until finally I realized what it was: depression. I would look out the window in every direction and all I could feel was loneliness and discomfort. It still feels weird remembering it even today more than a year later. I still ask "why did i feel that?" And "why did it follow me from the time we entered to the time we left?" But I really hope these people get help. If I felt it just being in WY for about 24~28 hours (give or take), I can't imagine what people are feeling LIVING there
Keith Richard's experienced it for one day in Dunedin - a University town in New Zealand. He couldn't believe the effect the rainy day was having on him and called it the arsehole of the world. Needless, to say, 10 weeks down there and my mental health gave out. Certain places are not good for certain people.
Your 100 % right. I have always lived in a city so when driving to Wyoming for a Yellowstone trip I was shocked how sad and alone it felt . I laughed I loved the lack of traffic but it’s true it’s so alone ! I kept thinking “what if someone is having a heart attack , what if someone is sick , what about a fire how do you even help them quick”
I think the decision to end one’s life can be the result of a sober, level headed assessment of one’s situation. Especially with chronic illness. I have chronic daily migraine and have tried every available treatment. I do what I can with diet and lifestyle and no longer work because of this condition. It is arrogant and callous to say that I should deal with this for however many decades I have left (I’m around 50 and otherwise healthy). Death can be merciful. Don’t tell me what you think is best for me. When I’m gone, be happy for me.
I agree- but I think when the situation becomes an epidemic due to depression and people are asking for help they deserve to get it no matter where they live.
I'm sorry you have to go through this. I've had all sorts of health issues for awhile and it has worn me out. I'm starting to feel better as of late so I'm grateful. They say chronic pain is the most difficult thing someone can deal with and it causes a lot of other issues like depression. And assisted suicide is definitely something that can be the right thing to do for somebody in the right situation. I would encourage you to hang in there and keep trying to find some healing for your migraines. I had chronic sinusitis for 11 years and was at my wits end. I was told by 2 ENT's that I would always have it which depressed me. Thankfully I looked up things on the internet and came across manuka honey. I used that and xylitol for three years and I finally got rid of my sinusitis. I'll be forever grateful. Maybe keep looking to find relief for yor migraines. I think a lot more people are suffering mental emotional health issues that can be dealt with because I've had them too. The thing is I had to get severely depressed before I started looking for solutions or asking for help because it was so hard for me to do that Then little by little over time I got better. I had to unlearn all the the unhealthy behaviors I learned in my childhood like never talking about problems and having low self esteem and no boundaries. So these issues and many more can be worked on but we need to acknowledge them first. There is hope but it doesn't feel that way when your hopeless. Good luck to you.
This was me at least 10 days out of 30. Stumbled upon folate (not folic acid), panthethine (only this form of B5) and magnesium biglycerate and now I only get mid face pain on occasion.
Thank you for sharing this story. I've been traveling to Wyoming for work for years and as much as I truly love the kind people, the beautiful open landscapes, the wildlife and food, I could never live there. The wind is haunting and never stops, it's quiet and eerie, the winters are bitter and dark, and you feel so lonely in a matter of days. Bless these people to get help.
My mom lives in Cody and loves it. She has never been comfortable around a lot of people. She is a long distance runner, loves "running her mountain" daily and has a very good job in a factory. I love the outdoors but I would go crazy living there. Too small and not enough to do. I prefer the big city. But I am very glad she has found a place that brings her so much enjoyment.
@@jponz85 go drive from Rawlins to Casper and get out of your car a few times to enjoy the scenery, the wildlife, take some pictures and experience it for yourself. Stay awhile, you'll figure it out.
That pretty much sums it up. I’ve driven through Wyoming a few times also, and it definitely seems like a state you’d fall into depression in. From Cheyenne (southern Wyoming) to Casper (right around the center), there is pretty much nothing. It’s such a big state, but there’s hardly anything out there. It would be a nice state to go sight-seeing, but not to settle and live there forever. The winds are ruthless (60mph), and winters are long.
My father committed suicide in Casper WY in 1970. I never knew until now that it was/is epidemic. For many decades I have lived by choice in the sunny south, but this is very sad about Wyoming.
Suicide should be legalized. Humans don't get a choice to be born, but if situations are horrible, failures are plentiful, and there's no coin, connections, clout, communication, nor community for someone... LET 'EM GO! 🙂 It'll be the only thing people WILL remember them for. After all, if they didn't check out, it's not like people would acknowledge that they ever even existed, lol! 😂🤣🤣
My sweet, little sister, Brigitte took her life at age 19. Tomorrow would have been her 58th birthday. Surviving the suicide of a loved one is very different than death by other causes. You don't blame yourself if someone dies of cancer! But when there is a suicide, you spend the rest of forever asking yourself, What if I had done this? What if I hadn't done that? I am very hopeful that this about 988 mental health crisis line. We need to do something better in this country. If you have experienced pain like this, losing a loved one, or even more importantly, if you have that sad, darkness within you, my heart goes out to you! Please get support. R.I.P. Brigitte.
The should impose to lose weight first, then that's the big first step to all these problems, if not they'll be surprised even these helpers/councilor/concerned staffs they themselves are having suicidal thoughts but they are just good in keeping it under the rug.
The big elephant in the room is that a bad economy and poor wages with no hope of a better future destroys people internally. Nobody is taught how to deal with that and how to express despair. People would have better mental and physical help if their reality was simply better, and had a coping mechanism.
Theres many countries and regions in the world where the people would give everything they have to get to live in a place like Wyoming. The elephant in the room is American culture and mindset. Unless youve left to other countries you wouldnt know how odd people think in the US.
@@Yarmox "American culture and mindset" unless you've lived in Wyoming then don't speak about something you don't know. Obviously they have a high suicidal rate for a reason. You make it sound like people from other countries would kill to live there. Get real
@@jponz85 Yes people would actually kill to live there. Especially if they're from a 3rd world country. Also a part of their suicide problem in WY was already stated in the video. It's the openess of the state and the older generations mentally of hiding your mental problems. That type of mentally is why men die way earlier than women. Because it's taboo or "gay" for men to talk about their feelings. Which is a level of insecurity.
lost my father to suicide at the age of 4, so it’s really something that I carry with me every day. I think about my dad from time to time and I’ll have my annual cry, but at the end of the day if you feel alone just know that you are not!
@@ivix9536 I have memories of my own father. I wasn’t told he died by suicide tho until I was 14. I don’t got to explain myself to nobody what the hell i gotta lie on the internet for???
I used to live in Wyoming and I did become suicidal. I got help and then moved out of Wyoming. I haven't had a problem since. I since learned that 3 friends of mine living there have committed suicide.
May I ask what it is about that state that causes people to think the way they do? What did you realize was the reason for the depression you experienced?
@@raziele92 We’re social beings. Even here in CA, even on the worst days I realize sometimes people stick around for the sake of making it seems as though there’s “nothing wrong.” You can only do it for so long. It’s a matter of letting people know, there’s something wrong, but let’s talk, it’s not weird, it’s human to feel suicidal. But if there’s something we can do to help it makes such a huge difference. I helped a few friends after money problems because I knew how much it meant, sometimes it’s not a lot, it’s just the feeling of being in an inescapable situation. People gate keep their friend groups, their families. For people with socially distant family it doesn’t help.
@@christopher2206 During the great dust bowl of the 1930s, many people committed suicide. They found a suicide note one housewife- who lived in on a very remote farm- left. It simply said "Can't stand to hear this wind blow no more."
Wyoming has very few people and a very strict way of thinking overall. it makes for a lot of solidarity and can be hard to be yourself out there unless your into the common way of things.
I grew up in a family like that with a strict way of thinking and not feeling and from what I've learned, it's pretty common. That's why it's necessary for us to get the education to the self to learn to understand how our back rounds shaped us for better or worse. That way we can keep the things that are healthy and start getting rid of the unhealthy things like suppressing emotions, not talking about problems, not asking for help, connecting with healthy people and disconnecting from unhealthy ones even if it is your family and a lot of other things. It's the most important work any of us will ever do. It's not just Wyoming, trust me.
Wyoming is horribly cuckolded. Most of the young women from Wyoming leave and sleep around with street gang members, leaving Wyomings young men to live sexless, unhappy, and lonely lives of alcoholism, drugs, and suicide. Of course, they won't ever tell the raw truth about this though because truth is not PC in modern times.
@Mr. chicano and that is why I no longer live there. I can't condone the anger and hatred that my family has towards other people merely because they are different colored, or worship a different god.
My late Husband and I lived in Medicine Bow WY. There are a lot of things that factor into the whole problem of suicide in Wyoming. The towns are such a distance away from each other, there’s the depressed job situation. Most of the small towns don’t have enough jobs or activities for teens. Where we lived Our church closed because there weren’t enough parishioners and we had to go to church 20 miles away. The town that we went to church at, didn’t have a grocery store, a bank, a gas station and the major job offering there closed, because the government shut down the coal mining company. It was truly depressing to see people struggling to keep their towns alive. Those were just the problems close to where we lived. We left two years after we got there because my husband got so depressed because of the wind constantly blowing in the valley that we lived in.
I know about 25 people who took their own lives all mostly age 18 to early 20's and every single one was Male. Men's emotions aren't taken seriously and we need to talk to our Sons about Mental health from a very early age. It can still happen anyway what this poor Father is going through I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
As someone who works in mental health, this country needs more emergency mental health options. The demand is much higher then what mental health providers can handle.
I would say, the country needs to *take care of the vulnerable, with diversion and prevention* , instead of waiting till it becomes an emergency and throwing useless money and bodies at the "problem". By the time a person makes the decision to end their lives, they've been in pain for MANY YEARS.
Idiot. The options are here, they just all cost over $1000. This country needs to get rid of for-profit healthcare. End of story. Please don't be a fu*king id*ot and pretend any other way.
I live in Wyoming. I don't believe it's all about the "Cowboy Culture" here, you need to remember that the biggest drug highway runs all the way through Wyoming, from East to West, Interstate 80. Parents don't understand or want to understand, that Middle school & High school in Wyoming is hard, very hard. If you're not an athlete, a cheerleader, very smart, or have parents with money, then YOU ARE NOTHING on the school system of Wyoming. Not just from the kids who bully you, but also from the Teachers and Administration that educates you. Kids are taught, from a very young age in Wyoming, usually by their own PARENTS, don't associate with other kids who are beneath you. You ONLY associate with kids who have parents who are in the same wealth gap as we are, kids who wear the right clothes, or are into the same hobbies as we are. When America was starting to deal with bullying, Wyoming wasn't even addressing it. There's like a 2 generation gap in Wyoming from the rest of the US. Wyoming is 20 years or more behind the entire country. And now that we are being taken over by MAGAts, it's even worse!
These lifelines won't prevent suicide. Once someone's mind is made up they don't seek attention, they act like nothing is wrong and then it just happens.
Parents are part of the problem. If you have a child you need to have their back. You need to be open and accepting and not ram any religious beliefs down the throat of a child. I see so many kids who LITERALLY have not had any conversation with their parents. They are yelled at and an inconvenience The parents know NOTHING about the child's life I have talked with people who have had no childhood. They had no love and tons of neglect and abuse It is heartbreaking
Absolutely. You show me a healthy parent/s I'll show you a healthy kid. Unfortunately what you described is more the nomral. My childhood was like that and I'm still working on my issues and will be for the rest of my life. Thankfully we live in a time where we can start to understand what happened, how it affected us and using solutions to deal with them. My parents also grew up in dysfunctional families and so did their parents. This goes way back and just keeps getting passed on from generation to generation. Pass it on or pass it back as they say.
I'm one of those kids. I'm grateful for your awareness. I really wish abusers went to jail. It should be a crime to have broken me, robbed me of many things and many years of my life, to have me spend most of my life on recovery, obscuring my identity - I've been unsure of who I am for a long time, to the point I wasn't sure I was a person at all with my depression making me seem inhuman - and for irresponsibly having children they had no intention of caring for. I don't even know if it's safe to have a child of my own, I can only hope having a partner to help me could make that a possibility. For the first time in my life I feel good. It's been 2 months of that. I don't know if it'll last, and I'm not sure if I'm well on my way to being recovered. But never give up. Keep going, keep fighting.
I spent most if my life in Alaska and suicide is rampant there too. The miserable weather and darkness all winter play a big part. Nearly every town and village is disconnected and accessible only by air. These places offer little future to young people and life there can seem very unrewarding and hopeless.
Am praying for the people of Wyoming, sending them all my love and prayers for strong faith and support thru tough times. You are loved and people do care.
OMG THANK U!! I just received your thoughts and prayers fresh off the grill, still warm! Right as I was about to pull the tr*gger, your prayer came into my phone like a text message and the bullet went through my body without hurting me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD IS GREAT, GLORY TO HIM XDDDD
I have driven through Wyoming. I felt suicidal. Endless miles of nothingness. Drugs and alcohol contribute to depression. Loneliness, isolation, lack of support all contributors to suicide rate
I can't even begin to imagine the stress the hotline workers go through during a busy day. You just have to take on whatever a person is dealing with and just go on with your day. And then deal with the next caller. And the next. You can't keep that up alone.
Lol you are right on the money. It will turn into a "checked box" as in, "Yep, we are tackling our mental health crisis, look you can call 988 instead of 911, so now cops won't be guaranteeing your suicide. Now there's a chance you live" LOL For-profit healthcare is a tragedy. But I will defend it with every vote because hey, it's not every day you get to participate in bringing down America while also saying "told ya so"
You tell em to leave bro my dad always told me there’s not anything to do 17 years there’s nothing to do in Cheyenne so much depressing becoming Mormon you should told em to go to LA walk the beaches of Malibu
Suicide isn't always a decision (to die) as this father said of his sons actions. Suicide isn't always the objective of a soul tearing itself apart. Not everyone who pulls the trigger thinks, "I'll show them," in their final moments. Sometimes the momentum of the situation just carries them away.
well... im going to eventually.. what else am I going to do? Wait untill I die alone or am too weak to take care of myself? I dont have anyone to show anything.
@@Jack-yq6ui find true friends or get a pet and you won’t be alone and take care of yourself and you won’t need to be taken care of when your old (50/50, genetics might get ya regardless of how well you treated your body)
@@41052 you really missed the point of this video. You effectively told Jack to "cowboy up" by telling him to go find "true friends" (popular entertainment has warped the meaning of true friends) or a pet which is just making light of the seriousness of his situation. Oh, and "take care of yourself". Wow. Guess that never occurred to him. This is the definition of telling someone to "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" which does nothing but add to a person's self loathing if it doesn't happen. Why not just say, "Bro, you might be by yourself, but you are not alone." Maybe Jack is so messed up that thinking he can get off this ride if it gets too bad is the only thing that keeps him going. If that's true it's good enough cause crazy random stuff happens all the time and tomorrow something good might randomly happen that changes everything. Every day is a lotto ticket for us crazies and you can't win if you don't play.
Religions rules, bullying, loneliness, poverty are the most common reasons why people give up, so if they want to change those numbers they have to address those issues first
Yeah we have to stop trying to be such ugly monsters. It is not a part of our nature. So it only hurts us and drives us mad. If we were to be ourselves, we would all get along, naturally.
@@xaviercopeland2789 well Christianity definitely gives you the mind set that you’re not good enough. Think less of yourself. Being poor and meek is being a good person. Bad if you’re rich. Don’t enjoy your nature like sex (even though you’re designed for it) or pleasure. Be too uptight. Judge others and yourself. We are all sinners. Etc. it has messed a lot of people up I’m sure you’ll find lots of studies on this.
Everyone in the USA should have health care and access to mental health services and it should be free and paid for by taxes like it is in other countries
Absolutely. 2022 and The fact that we can send billions of dollars in foreign aid and yet we don't have free Healthcare...wake up people FYI I'm neither Democrat nor Republican im a realist
@@dmwanderer9454 tax the rich and billionaires and corporations. And better to pay taxes and everyone gets covered rather than pay the insurance premiums and millions of people are not covered or only partly covered
@roan: That's what 'defund the police' was all about. It was to transfer resources to mental health personnel to be called upon and not an armed, marginally trained bully/coward police to respond to people suffering mentally. So quickly the purpose of the 'defund' movement was perverted by ignorant, hateful people.
I can imagine how much support all the first responders need just to deal with the amount of suicide attempts and suicide completion... This is horrific.
Never a word about them in the news anyway that’s for sure. Can you imagine them ever declaring a national emergency over suicide like they did covid? Nope, because remember jabs make money, suicide just reveals the flaws in the system.
He probably had good reason to do so. Not every human is as lucky as the ones who have good, successful, loved lives. Some people just get cajoled, lambasted, ridiculed, F'ed, ignored, cheated, wrecked, and screwed for decades. When enough is enough, it's completely understandable to "call the game" and concede. It's not like anyone CHOOSES to be born. So, it's nice to select one's exit. Especially if it marks the only accomplishment one will ever be remembered for! 💪😎🤟
I consider myself a strong woman of faith but let me tell you when I get hit with depression or anxiety attacks I feel so hopeless. It’s a horrible feeling that only the person that goes through it can explain.
Depends on the part of the state. A large chunk of it is basically a western extension of Nebraska. There are parts that are great if you love outdoor recreation. I don't recommend it if living in a culturally/ethnically diverse place is important to you though.
I have PTSD and I sometimes hate the way I feel and it causes a lot of other problems like holding a job and keeping a roof over my head , my paranoia and anxiety causes me to stay away from people and makes me really uncomfortable
The problem is the people in wyoming, I’ve know 3 people who committed suicide in wyoming. All were lgbtq. The bullying they faced and the harassment of people. It’s the reason after I survived high school in that hell hole I got out.
For all the taxes that are paid in our country, we sure don't get much for what we pay for to improve our lives. One of 24 states, that does not invest in its people, but wants to expand the population.
@@Justmekpc Yet they've convinced the average person to vote for them and against their best interest, usually with wedge issues. Don't think the republicans are done with trying to get rid of social security and medicare, they're not. Also a state that wouldn't expand medicaid for the poorest of their citizens but I guess Jesus was a fiscal conservative who told his followers to pull themselves up by their boot straps, whatever that means because that's pretty much impossible.
Left California and moved to Wyoming to have a better quality of life. Unpacked everything and settled in. Been living here 14 days. Sit down in front of the tv and watch this while my pre teens ride bikes outside. What hell have I unknowingly stepped into.
The wind in WY and Casper especially has a weird effect on people. I've been to Casper several times and everytime it feels "heavy" or "oppressive". And it seems to never stop.
When we moved to Wyoming, I was told ppl committed suicide there often due to constant the wind. I thought that was a ridiculous reason to take your life until I'd lived there for awhile. It rly will drive you crazy
I pray blessings over Wyoming. It was actually a very hospitable place when I was traveling 🧳 with my family as a kid. Our van broke down and we were stranded in the days of no cell phones 📱 and technology, early 1990’s. A trucker took care of us and drove my family to the nearest holiday inn 🏨 I will never forget how they took care of us out there. May there be blessings throughout that land.
Educate yourself on the atrocities of Christianity. Your religion is fake and your prayers are you talking to yourself to make you feel better about yourself. Try embarrassing reality
Listen prayers are nice, it shows that you do think about the people that are in trouble. That you wish to help them. However, I'm sorry to say, action tends to be more helpful. Taking the time to listen and allowing someone to let out their emotions in healthy ways, art and writing, can be extremely helpful. Funding organizations dedicated to helping those with depression can be extremely helpful as well
Social media is available everywhere. I dont disagree that social media is a major cause of depression, but unless there are statistics showing Wyoming is using social media at a much higher than average rate, social media does nothing to explain the outlier suicide numbers in Wyoming.
I agree. And to the point below, social media should be examined as a factor, not direct cause. If the decedent's used social media, it's relevant. To the extent it factored in, is a conclusion for the experts.
I live in Wyoming, and this is the first time Ive heard of this program. Access to healthcare and even everyday services is very poor here. Laramie doesnt have a single psychiatrist outside of the inpatient hospital unit, for example. Then there's widespread poverty and alcoholism.
I tried to end my life when I dropped low when my son was kidnapped from me by his mom , from california all the way to utah when he was 3 years old . I still suffer from depression , but those thoughts of hurting myself just goes into anxiety mode . May all the lives lost Rest In Peace. ♥️
Did you call the authorities. Kids need both parents. Start reading the Bible so the next time you see him you’ll tell him something that can change his life.
Okay who has custody? If you both have it idk if it’s kidnapping, if she has it it’s definitely not kidnapping, but if you have custody it sure is. I’d recommend getting help from authorities.
With how inflation going up dramatically, I don’t see suicide incidents going down soon unfortunately. Most of these people would rather die and let all their debt go rather than be alive battling everyday to barely make it to the next check. It’s the sad reality we live in and it’s sad that we have to fight to LIVE.
I have lots of finances. I have no family and no friends. No one to love and love me back. Been suicidal for several years now, but fighting it as best as I can. I am blessed to be able to travel internationally, and just be around non-Americans for a while. It's not all about money. In fact, often times money might even make things worse (distraction, false sense of security, fake "friends" who just want free meals and free partying).
There is no weakness in getting help. It’s the hardest thing to do, not the weakest. How we treat mens mental health needs to change in the south and Midwest. More research needs to go into the causes of mental health, how it correlates to certain jobs, certain age groups, locations, etc.. My dad, grandfathers and Two uncles are doctors and all agree they see a higher rate in suicide and studies that chronic physical illness causes extreme depression and mental health issues and the quality of life is low often especially without access to pain management Which has swung too far to the side of refusing to treat serious pain. In a land where these men work their bodies so hard they are often facing failing physical health their mental health WILL follow if it’s deteriorating. Mental health issues and chronic physical health issues may overlap and how we treat it needs to be looked into. How you spent your free time. If your lifestyle values living and more just working.
there is no real help available. just a bunch of vultures in lab coats smiling at you while they make millions selling you ineffective medications and never addressing the core cause of all these problems
Well said. Having lived with extreme chronic pain for 13 years I can certainly relate. Thanks be to God I was relieved of this pain by surgery/ unexplained healing and the forfeit of my fertility. Though I no longer suffer I still remember the intense suffering and difficultly getting Drs to take me seriously. That was 6 years ago. Now with the supposed opioid epidemic people in legitimate pain are told to “deal with it” I know for many suicide will be answer… that is sad on so many levels.
I remember traveling thru Wyoming and my car was having issues at the moment once they saw me immediately I was being harassed by police not 1 but like 6 cops. I will never go or pass by Wyoming ever again…
Out of state tags that’s all.They really wanted to know why I was there after they searched my car checked my background and I showed proof of the reason why I was passing thru they finally let me go with my drive…
I heard a lot of police departments need o arrest people to justify the need to have such a large budget. That stop just smelled like they were trying to get you on something.
I lived there until I was 26 and I am in my early 60s. WY is not a very accepting place to live if you are different in any way. Judgement was extreme and still remains. Poverty if you are single, even if you have a decent career, esp if you are a female. If you are poor, if you dress different. For men finding jobs are few and far between. No expanded adult Medicaid which would positively impact more than 50% of adults there by paying partial or all healthcare even if you are working a full time job. Ppl work against themselves and do not vote for politicians that would allow the free federal assistance that is given to all states. Just myopic one team types that cut their noses off to spite their face. I love the place, but visiting is all I can tolerate.
It's great that the federal government is making counselors more easily accessible. But at the end of the day that's only addressing the symptom, not the cause. Yes we need counselors. But we also need to help prevent people for becoming suicidal in the first place. I'm sure there are many aspects that contribute to it and it's a very complicated situation, but making this country more equitable and reducing the wealth inequality and home affordability wouldn't hurt.
American culture is sick. You must be happy and dreaming of bigger things all the time. Money is the only recognized absolute. Education is for getting a job, instead of intellectual curiosity.
Just seeing them drive through those big open landscapes gives this feeling of "the void". If that makes sense. It feels like haunting emptiness that goes on forever, and I think the idea that no one is right next door is really lonely. Then, the sounds of the wind whipping through your bones. I can't imagine living there. It's like that state was designed to tear a person apart. 😢 May all the people who were lost rest in peace.
I’ve driven through there a number of times. I found it to be very boring because most of the state is desolate. 10th largest state in the U.S. yet it has the smallest population, even compared to tiny states such as Hawaii and Rhode Island. I can’t imagine living there outside of Cheyenne or Yellowstone. Outside of their biggest towns, I could see how human interaction is a highly limited thing. It has to be lonely living there.
Looking at that reminded me of the horror movie Jeepers creepers where the monster abducts people from their cars on broad empty highways in the middle of nowhere.
@@206Vin Those places are fine to visit but sucks to live there all year round. A lot of my folks live out in rural areas in NC and it feels very boring especially if you don't have a car.
The fact that most people don't know what there is in Wyoming, tells you why. Zero opportunities, zero money to go anywhere else, no light at the end of the tunnel.
Society is f*****. The government only cares about profit. The whole point in modern life is to get a job and work just so you can provide. Back then you could actually live a wonderful life in nature without having a work for money
"We were going in opposite directions instead of working together" I wish this would be plastered on every billboard and voiced to every person. we cannot heal alone. isolation is what kills. I hate being isolated.
I too live a very isolated existence friend. But I have just made contact with you and you are going to see what I have written. We are not as isolated as we think. It's just different friend. Just remember this comment represents a human being. Not some nameless, faceless algorithm. I am responding to something you put out into the world. You are not completely isolated. Fair it is to lament the lack of any close personal contact in our lives, but we should never lose sight of what we do have and never dwell on what we don't. Friend if you were truly isolated , you wouldn't be reading this right now. I hope that is an encouraging thought to you. You have the power to connect with people all over the world. People who otherwise wouldn't even know you exist. Use this power friend. Maybe you won't feel so isolated. Connect with people in the way you can. Your comment reached me. May my comment encourage you to reach out to others.
Equality or isolated people, punishment? We really don't risk equality. We prefer to torture some of us! Always will! Capitalism, jobs, poverty -. Sorry but not everyone can go indoors! But everyone Will work! For those who go inside at night! Human sacrifice is part of the freedom you have in america. Nobody thinks you can continue without torture for some, houses for you. I'm not like you. I would never go indoors. Home is for the haters who made me homeless. You are winning. You are the folk in the homes. The homeless aren't evil like you.
Oh, come on! Guns aren't the answer to why we have such a high suicide rate in Wyoming. There are lots of reasons why. It is difficult to make a living here and often we don't have anything to fall back on in hard times. Isolation is huge, although we pride ourselves on being individuals and don't like to be around a lot of people. Alcohol and drugs use causes a lot of problems. Bullying in school goes on all the time. Bullying against people who are "different". Being outdoors saves my soul.
I feel so bad for the people who live in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and some of Utah and don’t enjoy living there because they’re so isolated from the rest of the country and it makes them depressed.
we dont want all the trash moving here from other big city states! I was born and raised in WI, and lived here in WYoming for almost 30 years now... only thing I miss in WI is the cheese curds and smoked fish! We dont have to dodge bullets like folks back east do....even tho everyone here in Wyoming carries, there is hardly any violence except from some people from other states that come here...murder here in my WY city at a motel...guy from Calif came here and murdered and cut up a guy from here! SMH
My mother attempted suicide many times when I was a teenager. When I was older I found out that it was after she had an abortion…..now I’m much older and like my mom I’m disabled and unable to work. I’m grateful for a loving husband who helps me otherwise I would be homeless and on the streets. I’m praying and reading the Bible a lot for comfort. I want to help others and be useful as much as I can. I don’t know how many months or years I have left.
There have been several peer reviewed articles that link depression to higher altitude. Wyoming, the entire state, is above 6500 ft. in altitude with many places much higher. Isolation, no communication, wind and cold don't help much. My mother and her family came from generations in Wyoming (near Rawlins) without a suicide loss but they all moved out asap. They moved to pre fire Paradise and Magalia, CA where they lived long lives. (I was born and raised elsewhere.) Along with high altitude can come pulmonary hypertension of Type 1, a fatal disease of the pulmonary artery. I too have sensed the "darkness" in Wyoming and think it is related to altitude. The John Wayne/Regan cowboy culture is deadly and never really existed. Actors and game show hosts need to stay out of politics and perhaps Wyoming would have extended its Medicaid program.
The goddamned wind and cold in the winter will drive a lonely person insane and into depression. Folks with families and connections do better than isolated single or lonesome folks. It is a weird thing too save for summers that you can have have super nice weather in FoCo and then when you start getting close to the Wyo border and it is grey, dark and gloomy. Then you see the all seeing eye of Mordor on the horizon... just a bit of change in elevation and longitude can make a big difference.
@@titusflavius5668 it's not an exaggeration or an approximation; I have experienced exactly everything you have said with Fort Collins and returning to Laramie. Down to the loneliness.
There are many towns and cities above 6,500 feet in the world and they don't have an elevated suicide risk, don't just make things up because a bunch of conservatives offed themselves like they did in record numbers under Obama because snowflakes are gonna melt...
If you want to remove suicide Make sure everyone owns a home everyone Everyone has a secure job Everyone has access to health care being natural medicine naturopathy Everyone has organic food Everyone has friends and family Everyone has free counseling and free psychologist
As someone who lives just an hour away from the Wyoming border in Idaho, here’s what I have to say: Free healthcare(which includes mental health) would really help these numbers go down! As well as more resources for veterans, those apart of the LGBTQ+ communities, and for those who are homeless or live below poverty line which happens to be most in these areas, including myself.
Wyoming seems like a hell of it's own making. The tough guy attitude is horribly toxic. They're religiously devoted to their cowboy past and love their alcohol and guns and "freedom" yet use their nanny state to keep cannabis fully illegal, a wonderful medicine that can greatly help depression. It's so sad to see a state so stuck in their ways they'd rather kill themselves than evolve.
I suffered a dangerous suicidal depression for some reason for 2 years here in Gillette Wyoming. It turns out I was vitamin deficient. I haven't been depressed or had that dark scary cloud over me since I brought my levels up.
Setting up hotlines might help some people but it’s not going to make much of a difference. We need to make life and society more tolerant of people who are different or struggle with mental illness. Not everyone can function at the same level and that shouldn’t mean extreme poverty and isolation. If your born with poor health to family that’s not supportive and rich your basically screwed.
We have a corporate problem, they control your way of thinking 💭 without you even realizing it, and people vote against their own interest. We need to expand our social safety net and remove profit motive on certain sectors of our economy, starting with healthcare. No one should make a profit out of someones tragedy. MEDICARE FOR ALL NOW!!!!!
The more that communities come together to create support/lifelines, it becomes a bull horn of sorts that reminds us we're not alone. We all have a burden we carry that can make or break us. Making these suicide hotlines available are so important. Funding these services shouldn't have to be a challenge, it needs to be a priority. 🕊️
@@patricialongo5870 social media isn't social. Reaching out to neighbors, friends, volunteering, being available to others when possible, is social. Spending real valuable time with those we trust and love are lifelines. 🙏🏼
@@ovehlu true. Obviously not all people are welcome to reach out, and after being outside of society and outside of buildings while working, starving, losing it in the cold-. In america- , after working without sick days with covid - I can't just go inside a house and enter a bathroom.... It's way too late for me. It's impossible. My skin wants to be ripped off. I am not like the people who let others be homeless. You are the ones who go indoors. I couldn't. It's for you. I'm not a monster!
@@patricialongo5870 I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like you've been through difficult times. God knows COVID made everything 10 times as bad for so many people. We are complete stranger's to each other, but I want you to know, I'm thinking of you and sending positive thoughts your way, that things improve in your life, and that your heart becomes lighter, and filled with love. 🕊️
you all should be proud of someone you know who committed suicide. Yes it sucks. It really sucks FOR YOU. You think it was easy for them to do that? It takes someone to suffer for years to even start trying suicide. They did it finally with bravery.
Hopefully a way can be found to ensure a permanent funding for 988. More efforts to get the word out that this is available. Finally, infrastructure needs huge improvement so that people can use whatever technology to use the service. It’s totally unacceptable for people young people to not have access to mental health care.
It's totally unacceptable for anyone to not have access to any type of medical care. I think this fathers son probably had access but like his dad said, he felt like he couldn't say to his dad that he's struggling. So even when I had access to mental health care I didn't know how to ask because I spent my life acting like I was fine and also hadn't been taught as a child to be able to ask for help because that's how my parents were also taught. the healthier a family is the healthier the kids will be physically, mentally, emotionally and socially. I agree that 988 number needs to be funded as a first step that people can do who are in crisis. It's amazing how just opening up and starting to share your issues will mke people feel better and give them hope that they can get help.
While I was attending a University I became very depressed, (which happens often). So I went to their health clinic to set up an appointment to see a therapist, the wait for it was over 3 months.....I was appalled and saddened that the school didn't make that a priority for their students. And I want to call them out for it, this was at University of Santa Barbara where all the 'rich' folks go..
Im one of those who prefers my own company. The pandemic really hasn't impacted me mentally. I love rural America, i feel free there. When i go to the cities, its just too much for me. Its important to keep supplemented in places wheres theres less vitamin D for the sake of keeping mental health.
I agree, i think most people who are introverts did not have such a tough tine during the pandemic. I didnt, i am used to being alone so it wasnt hard for me.
As an introvert, I had absolutely no problem with social distancing during the pandemic. As an added bonus, I never once got sick because of the distancing and I felt like a was really enjoying myself during that time. It was so nice to go in public with no crowds and wearing the masks made me not worry about being recognized.
I moved away from WY with my mom when I was 8, I have been living in major cities ever since but go back to visit family there all the time. I have 4 family members that committed suicide in WY. I don't know anyone outside of WY that has though, crazy not that it doesn't happen elsewhere but that really is saying something considering how low the population of the state is.
As someone who once walked home intending to write a suicide letter, I'll say this. The thing that stopped me was that a friend saw me walking and stopped me in my tracks. She asked me what was bothering me because my pain was written on my face. She listened. She empathized with me. She gave me a hug and told me that she would be there to help me through it and that I wasn't alone. After that, she checked on me daily, told me that she loved me and that she was here for me. Because of that, I changed my mind and decided that it might be worth it to stick around and hope for better days ahead. I didn't have a chemical imbalance in my brain. I was miserable, alone, going thru a hard time, and hitting a wall every time I tried to get my life back together. There is no medication for terrible life circumstances. The only thing that gets you through that is the love and support of people who care about you. We need to bring people back together as a community, start empathizing with one another, and start showing people we care about them.
I agree. The loss of empathy is what puts us all at risk. But building community somehow seems to be the hardest thing to do.
What if there is no one? And sick with chronic pain yet no home? And must care for two cats that live with a really mean person that does nothing for the cats so I live there and slave for this mean person so that the cats will be okay?
Good point. True community is a sparse thing nowadays. We willfully isolate and wallow in superficial relationships online. While some of these connections can be real, mostly they are not. Real empathy, real community comes with real sacrifice or the self with the intent of being part a greater whole. Religion can do a lot to make a community, but just being a friend can get you there too. A real friend, like the one you described.
People are social animals, we NEED friends and 👪 👨👧👧 👨👩👧👦 family
I did not have that kinda love or support.As what was left of my family was falling apart.So I spent time running from something,I could not run from as it's embedded in my head.Didnt matter where I ran, couldn't get away from that image.But I'm great full you are still with us and having a good friend during that time,made all the difference for you.Stay strong in those times . Don't let it get you.I believe there is a purpose for you and me.Not sure what but I keep that in mind.You are very kind.
It’s sad that we have made our lives like this, people would rather die than live the life we created. We are completely disconnected with nature and earth and live in fake societies doing things we all don’t wanna do because the people before us made them “normal” or “the social norm”. I personally struggle with this here in Southern Utah, and have my whole entire life. I’ve personally lost 8 friends to suicide. The society we have created feels wrong
It is wrong, that's why it feels wrong....sorry you've had to deal with do many losses. Take care of yourself. Peace
@@pickledragonrebel I appreciate the kind words, I hope you do the same. Cheers!
We work our whole lives to die. It's a shame. N this shouldn't be
You are right. This isn't natrual. And it seems like we are going in the wrong direction. It is depressing, but it is our job to put out good vibrations back into the universe to possibly help those who lost hope.
we don't have control over our lives...
I loved the last time I made a suicide hotline call. She asked if I needed to talk to someone in real life. I said yes. Then cops drag me to mental health facility. Then I got better....but wait for it...then got a nice letter about a medical bill. The thoughts blew up again. Thankfully I never paid and moved to a different state where a friend helped me get back on my feet.
When I called they sent some men to my home who then handed me a paper on who to reach out to if im feeling depressed. Maybe the hotline is just a directional help service?
I wonder if the dispatcher thought you might've been a threat to others. Whenever I've admitted my depression to my Doctors they always ask me that question.
@@MikMoen No they just make more money when they send you to the looney bin for ever. They have no interest in helping anyone.
That’s a classic American story - and tragic beyond words. I’m glad you’re doing better and are still here though.
This happened to me as well. Everyone says to seek help, I need help to afford the help
When a country's citizens get to the point where they'd rather be dead than continue in this society, it might be a good idea to
re-think our handling of healthcare, education, shelter, food, mental health treatment and needed taxes to cover such things. What's the use of billions in defense spending, when people feel their lives are too unhappy to defend anymore?
Well said, thank you.
Yes!
The government can't make your life worth living. Only you can
Take women's rights away. See if men stop killing themselves
You can’t convince the hill billy crowd in Wyoming of that.
I had classes with Lyle when this happened. He used to help me work on my car. He was a nice kid. Rest in peace.
I've lost my dad and sister to suicide in Casper, Wyoming. There's a heavy dark energy in that state. It's heartbreaking. Really hopeful for this program.
I‘m so sorry for your loss.
Are you able to explain about the dark energy?
Yeah please do. That's so sad. Sorry for the loss
Could it be that the isolation, the lack of connection with the world is a part of the problem? I wonder if diet and poor nutrition, lack of sun and cultural mindset adds to it.
Ever heard of organized stalking, cointelpro operation.
Community policing. MK ULTRA, Secret Spying of the CIA, FBI and NSA handed down to the most dangerous and corrupt force. The local officials and corrupt police.
I moved to AZ from NY in 09 and my neighbors were from Wyoming. I remember the daughter saying the same thing you just did, there's a dark energy about it. And then she went on about some rolling road you bring your car too and it moves on its own, and some other weird stuff.
brought me to tears. lost my mom to suicide 4 years ago. i’ve never been the same. i’m only 19 i wish i could do more to stop stigma. my heart goes out to all of those who are survivors ❤️
I'm sorry. I lost my sis 10 years ago. It's an absolutely brutal thing to lose someone you love.
Lost my mom to suicide in May 2004. My siblings and I never seen it coming. 😞
I’m so sorry for your loss!
@@etherealbutterfly I’m so sorry for your loss!
Sorry for your loss. But be on guard, beware that when something like that happens in the family, it can happen to others next. If I were you, I would dedicate myself to Christ and live a life connected to him. He is the only one that can give us a real purpose in life and can give us peace a midst any suffering.
"The hardest burden our children have to bear, is the negligence and trauma of past generations."
The past generations who didn't have the resources to help and had the mentality that if you didn't talk about it, it would go away. It all went away but the gift of the symptoms, which then lost a reason, and just cause a malaise that doesn't quit and seems just a part of life.
So true
And with the reality of imminent doom, where can one turn?
Killing off the natives, killing the land -. Obviously it's supposed to hurt. You gotta give conservatives props -. We're licked. It's over.
The should impose to lose weight first, then that's the big first step to all these problems, if not they'll be surprised even these helpers/councilor/concerned staffs they themselves are having suicidal thoughts but they are just good in keeping it under the rug.
Unfortunately even when you do ask for help, people usually don’t care. It’s only when you’re dead that they wish they would of done something.
When I was going through a hard time, I called family members just so they can talk to me and they couldn’t care less. Never herd from them till this day.
Same. It was tough during the pandemic. I live in Seattle and I live alone. I was so isolated for about 2 years. The few friends and family I reached out to didn't care either. They told me to find a therapist. I still distant myself from everyone.
Call on JESUS Christ he will answer.
I have always found this to be true.....when you get into the very pits and darkness of depression no one wants to hear you or even be around you as at that time you are seen as just needy and weak....they for the most part want to get away from you....don't want to deal with it....and depression can spiral into a very very dark very excruciatingly dark place of which there seems to be no escape so very overwhelming and sometimes one gets to that dark hard cold precipice and cannot pull themselves back in time and one would do just about anything to escape that place....
🙏🏻&❤️to u all! Each one of u matter!!
The same thing happens in my family. Their hearts are so cold that their love is nonexistent. So sorry you went through that but God said that love would wax cold in these last days.
This is the reason why people need to stop bringing children in this pathetic world. This world is filled with greed and self centered human beings. Stop making babies.
so true this world sucks
I completely agree
That's a poor attitude to have. Maybe you should be seeking help too. Negativity doesn't make anything better. I hope you find the joy in life one day
@@rawkneepea5973 when was the TRUTH negative? The truth hurts and unfortunately for you, you can't handle the truth. So keep living in your delusional thinking.
The help is not out there. There are NOT enough mental health professionals. Anywhere. Any state. Loneliness must be far more destructive in isolation. Idaho and Wyoming really struck me as lonesome.
Utah too
It’s not about the state people in New York City can feel extremely alone and isolated. Imagine the compounding effect of sadness when you’re surrounded by people who don’t care? You’re not literally alone but you may as well be.
trust me. I've tried to get help.
@@Americano3232330 it is about the state. The state literally dictates what they will support with tax payer dollars and what they don't. Some states spend more money on healthcare (this include mental health) than other states. And some states even have come up with a plan to get people to where they need to go.
But mental health can make you lonely no matter who or how many people you are with.
Try Alaska then talk to me about isolation 🙃
As the father of a suicide victim, I can tell you one thing that can work wonders to get them over the "hump", and keep them alive. TALK to your children, no matter how old they are. Keep them in your thoughts, but also talk to them. Let them know that they are not alone. And do this often.
If you don't, you may join the same club that I'm in. A club member that talks to an empty place at the table, a club member that still--twenty-three years later-- makes too much food when cooking, and wishes that he'd spent more time listening.
I'm so sorry for your loss. That's a very important message.
So sorry❤️❤️❤️
Your ptsd was pushed onto him, he did only what made sense to him because you became self aware after the fact
Existence on Earth is meaningless. People should be able to choose if they wish to exit the "ride", because they sure as flunckin' hell didn't get to choose entering it.
Some humans "find success" and wonderful $#1+ falls into their laps all day long, every month, and every year. Others are just CONSTANTLY F'ed decade after decade. It gets old, monotonous, stupid, and POINTLESS.
Let them *GO*. Allow them to be free, because it's not your daemn choice, anyhow. Ya friggin' narcissists, lol. 😂🤣😂
I'm sorry for your loss. 🙏🏽
My buddy used to rodeo in Wyoming. He said a lot of his friends would die from suicide in Wyoming all the time. I asked him why so many would die from suicide ? He said it's because the wind never stop out there. I didn't understand until now what he really meant. Life never stop coming at these men with no reprieve.
It’s called life and we all have to deal with it, they aren’t special it’s just mental health isn’t given the respect it deserves anywhere.
@@Thought_Police It is given more respect in New England rather than shitholes like Wyoming. I feel no pity for the idiots who decide to live in shitholes, vote in idiot shithole leaders, and do nothing to protect themselves against the world. The problem will solve itself, when everyone in Wyoming has finished their lead dinners
So y tf they won't leave smh
Blaming the wind for something as drastic as suicide sounds like something they'd do if they're afraid of some genuine introspection and figuring out whats truly eating away at them.
I can't really imagine someone of a healthy mindset would completely end their life because of windy weather when they know well they can just re-locate.
@@WarbroJavaCo it’s very windy here in New England as well. I don’t think the wind is blame
The states with the highest rates of suicide tends to be rural, have majority low income White and Native American populations, didn't expand Medicaid under the ACA, and have very weak firearm laws and regulations. Until these truths are faced head on, the suicide epidemic will continue unabated.
Well said.
Explain the firearm thing… 95% of us hunt. Guns are not used in most suicides. The rest of your points are valid!
@@nunya8903 Men who owned handguns were eight times more likely than men who didn’t to die of self-inflicted gunshot wounds. Women who owned handguns were more than 35 times more likely than women who didn't to kill themselves with a gun.
While prior studies have found higher rates of suicide among people who live in homes with a gun, these studies have been relatively small in scale and the risk estimates have varied. The Stanford study is the largest to date, and it’s the first to track risks from the day of an owner’s first handgun acquisition.
“Our findings confirm what virtually every study that has investigated this question over the last 30 years has concluded: Ready access to a gun is a major risk factor for suicide,” said the study’s lead author, David Studdert, LLB, ScD, MPH, professor of medicine at Stanford Health Policy and of law at Stanford Law School.
Indeed, and there are many more other reasons as well, such as being from an abusive family or having an abusive partner.
Ehhhh.. it goes much much deeper than that
It always baffles be that people have such trust in thinking that counselors will solve anything. For some it might, but as someone who have known people who have killed themselves and people who have survived attempted suicides (often to continue living lives that often has me wondering if it wouldn’t have been better for them to have died) I find myself thinking that it’s ironic, at least in the country where I live, that we throw enormous sums of money on mental health care, but are very unwilling to accept people who are different, help people who struggle to make it month to month financially, etc. If we don’t want people to kill themselves perhaps we should work on making society a little more bearable to live in, not throw all the resources into stopping people from killing themselves when they have nothing. At that point, perhaps suicide is the most rational option. When you’re older, extremely lonely, perhaps living in poverty and maybe declining health, what exactly is it you are supposed to live for? Maybe instead work on a society that doesn’t put people in that position.
Yeah but rich run the country they don’t care if poor people are killing themselves
Thank you. Seriously, thank you. Someone needed to speak reality. You described my life. I'm just biding my time. If it wasn't for my son I would have done it already. I keep going through the motions for him. Anyway, thank you.✌🏻💙🆓
@MultiCatster
You are very welcome. I’m sorry to hear that you are living this. I’m not going to spew the regular crap I see people come up with when talking to complete strangers they don’t know anything about who says they have thoughts of suicide like “you have so much to live for”, “life is totally worth living you just can’t see it right now” or “I promise it will get better”. If you feel like you have nothing (except your son) to live for then that is likely true, and I am in no position to be promising you that anything will get better, I absolutely know that in many cases it doesn’t. I will say that I respect you for your sense of responsibility for your son. I _hope_ there are things you can do to improve your situation, but I also know that that’s not always the case. In any case saying things like “maybe you should find some help and talk to someone” seems genuinely provocative and patronising, so I am not going to say that. How is talking to someone going to help you pay your bills? How is it going to make life less of a constant struggle? I think most people contemplating suicide (which they often do for years before they actually commit suicide) often know what would make their lives worth living, but the obstacles are just too great and over time the constant struggle of keeping your head just above the water just wears people down. And that’s the endpoint: that is not the point at which people need help. They need it 15 years earlier, so that they can envision a future for themselves and have some quality in their lives _before_ they are completely broken.
I do hope things get better for you, and you are really being responsible towards your son for getting up every morning for him. That’s probably quite the struggle, I applaud you for doing all you can.
Very well said.
@@josephinenilsson1541 thank you for avoiding the toxic positivity. If talking helped, I'd be cured already. I'm 58, broke most of the time, unhealthy physically and mentally, have no friends, no social life, no one to grow older with, I'm watching my country go backwards and all our freedoms, rights, and acceptance slip away, my youth has slipped away, and my future looks darker every damn day. (I hope I'm still allowed to say damn.) I don't belong in this world anymore, if I ever did in the first place. My view of what life should be like for everyone is far too advanced for most people on this planet. Look at me spilling my pain out on the interwebs. 😬 I'm just tired of it all. So. Very. Tired. 😩
The only way to combat this is to put more emphasis on community. American suburbs are isolating and depressing as hell. It certainly doesn't help that they're in Wyoming. Back when humans actually lived in close-knit communities, you knew most everyone and could talk your problems out with others. However in suburbs, people are left to wallow in their own dark thoughts.
Our nation is sliding into fascism, and the planet is sliding into climate catastrophe. If a person is NOT depressed, then they are in deep denial.
@@SuperTonyony Lol thats moronic. Plenty of people have strong social supports and live very happy lives. Get a grip dude.
These aren't the suburbs they're talking about. Suicide is a big problem in rural areas, as the video notes.
@@SuperTonyony a lot of talk about suburbs lol it’s just as soulless in cities. Architecture and culture play more important roles.
@@fm-9129 I think what makes cities different is you are more likely to interact with people making you less likely to be lonely while suburbs and rural areas can be very boring if you don't have access to transportation.
It’s because everyone feels so alone and empty .
Because so many (probably MOST) people are competing with each other, guarded, afraid of being too honest/real/vulnerable, and therefore, not sharing from the heart.
I wish you good luck and real, beautiful connections...real, loving and mutually supportive relationships.
You can thank women’s movements.. feminism and their entitlement here in first world countries making all these laws against men from being men . Causing more loneliness for everyone
@@andrewevans6826 Women aren't to blame. If you feel lonely it's probably something to do with your immediate environment and not women
Shut up
It has to be pointed out that this country has backwards priorities in terms of government investments. The government spends far more on weapons and warfare than on healthcare, health and wellness. This spending contributes to more PTSD, more deaths, and more rapid climate change (as the military industrial complex is the largest polluter on the planet). This lifeline was inspired by veterans, who are a population that is directly effected by both warfare and suicide. The roots of the problem need unearthing and addressing.
You're wrong America spends 5x more in healthcare than the military. In fact, I'd argue the biggest expenditure in the military is healthcare for the millions of Americans it employs.
@@seanthe100 do you have any evidence on that
USA spends a lot on incarcerations also.
No, America actually spends far more on the military/defense budget than we do on healthcare. Yet it is true that we spend 5x more money on healthcare than other developed countries, but our health outcomes are noticeably worse than those countries. The big reason for that is because it's funded by the capitalist market and not a government sponsored universal healthcare plan like Canada and much of Europe.
That's because we have presence in so many other countries. We need to back off and focus on ourselves. Other countries don't spend that much on military because they rely on us to pick up their slack.
I'm from Wyoming and 3 of my friends all killed themselves. When they were 17. I still struggle to understand why to this day.
I am myself 33 years old and some thoughts never go away, there is no scape. In my case leaving my family back in El Salvador when I moved here to LA and my sister has been missing for 14 years takes a lot. Everyone lives their lives based on their own truth whatever that may be. My brother 21 and other sister 20 just got their green card and moved March 2022 here in North Hollywood that makes me happy 🙂
I wish you well 💗 happy that’s your younger siblings are there with you now
@@bittersweet3925 Thanks and likewise 🙏 A new chapter in life now that they are here in the U.S for them and for me.
i hope being with your family brings you peace and comfort 💗 being in a new country is very lonely and difficult
@@raven-cy1bt My dad brought me here at age of 15 I didn’t know him or my step siblings, I was separated from mom, my younger brother and sister. Finally 13 years later after hard work all 3 of them have the green card. I am thrill about this 2022 😎
God bless you my friend. Don't give up.
I've said it once and I'll say it again without going into deep detail because I'm tired .."we have a societal issue not a suicidal issue"
When my family was moving to Kansas from Oregon, I had to drive through Wyoming. But the second we crossed the state border in, I started feeling a strange sensation. But as we made our way through the state it kept growing until finally I realized what it was: depression. I would look out the window in every direction and all I could feel was loneliness and discomfort. It still feels weird remembering it even today more than a year later. I still ask "why did i feel that?" And "why did it follow me from the time we entered to the time we left?" But I really hope these people get help. If I felt it just being in WY for about 24~28 hours (give or take), I can't imagine what people are feeling LIVING there
Keith Richard's experienced it for one day in Dunedin - a University town in New Zealand. He couldn't believe the effect the rainy day was having on him and called it the arsehole of the world. Needless, to say, 10 weeks down there and my mental health gave out. Certain places are not good for certain people.
That and I hear the entire state is in high altitudes.
Your 100 % right. I have always lived in a city so when driving to Wyoming for a Yellowstone trip I was shocked how sad and alone it felt . I laughed I loved the lack of traffic but it’s true it’s so alone ! I kept thinking “what if someone is having a heart attack , what if someone is sick , what about a fire how do you even help them quick”
I think the decision to end one’s life can be the result of a sober, level headed assessment of one’s situation. Especially with chronic illness. I have chronic daily migraine and have tried every available treatment. I do what I can with diet and lifestyle and no longer work because of this condition. It is arrogant and callous to say that I should deal with this for however many decades I have left (I’m around 50 and otherwise healthy). Death can be merciful. Don’t tell me what you think is best for me. When I’m gone, be happy for me.
Hang in there kiddo. Peace...
I agree- but I think when the situation becomes an epidemic due to depression and people are asking for help they deserve to get it no matter where they live.
I'm sorry you have to go through this. I've had all sorts of health issues for awhile and it has worn me out. I'm starting to feel better as of late so I'm grateful. They say chronic pain is the most difficult thing someone can deal with and it causes a lot of other issues like depression. And assisted suicide is definitely something that can be the right thing to do for somebody in the right situation. I would encourage you to hang in there and keep trying to find some healing for your migraines. I had chronic sinusitis for 11 years and was at my wits end. I was told by 2 ENT's that I would always have it which depressed me. Thankfully I looked up things on the internet and came across manuka honey. I used that and xylitol for three years and I finally got rid of my sinusitis. I'll be forever grateful. Maybe keep looking to find relief for yor migraines.
I think a lot more people are suffering mental emotional health issues that can be dealt with because I've had them too. The thing is I had to get severely depressed before I started looking for solutions or asking for help because it was so hard for me to do that Then little by little over time I got better. I had to unlearn all the the unhealthy behaviors I learned in my childhood like never talking about problems and having low self esteem and no boundaries. So these issues and many more can be worked on but we need to acknowledge them first. There is hope but it doesn't feel that way when your hopeless.
Good luck to you.
This was me at least 10 days out of 30. Stumbled upon folate (not folic acid), panthethine (only this form of B5) and magnesium biglycerate and now I only get mid face pain on occasion.
@@brianwalsh1401 I'm really interested in the honey treatment. Wondering how this helped. Glad you're feeling better.
Thank you for sharing this story. I've been traveling to Wyoming for work for years and as much as I truly love the kind people, the beautiful open landscapes, the wildlife and food, I could never live there. The wind is haunting and never stops, it's quiet and eerie, the winters are bitter and dark, and you feel so lonely in a matter of days. Bless these people to get help.
My mom lives in Cody and loves it. She has never been comfortable around a lot of people. She is a long distance runner, loves "running her mountain" daily and has a very good job in a factory. I love the outdoors but I would go crazy living there. Too small and not enough to do. I prefer the big city. But I am very glad she has found a place that brings her so much enjoyment.
Sounds welcoming to me.
So it's always windy, but you say it's quiet. Which one is it lol
@@jponz85 go drive from Rawlins to Casper and get out of your car a few times to enjoy the scenery, the wildlife, take some pictures and experience it for yourself. Stay awhile, you'll figure it out.
That pretty much sums it up. I’ve driven through Wyoming a few times also, and it definitely seems like a state you’d fall into depression in. From Cheyenne (southern Wyoming) to Casper (right around the center), there is pretty much nothing.
It’s such a big state, but there’s hardly anything out there. It would be a nice state to go sight-seeing, but not to settle and live there forever. The winds are ruthless (60mph), and winters are long.
My father committed suicide in Casper WY in 1970. I never knew until now that it was/is epidemic. For many decades I have lived by choice in the sunny south, but this is very sad about Wyoming.
Suicide should be legalized. Humans don't get a choice to be born, but if situations are horrible, failures are plentiful, and there's no coin, connections, clout, communication, nor community for someone... LET 'EM GO! 🙂 It'll be the only thing people WILL remember them for.
After all, if they didn't check out, it's not like people would acknowledge that they ever even existed, lol! 😂🤣🤣
My sweet, little sister, Brigitte took her life at age 19. Tomorrow would have been her 58th birthday. Surviving the suicide of a loved one is very different than death by other causes. You don't blame yourself if someone dies of cancer! But when there is a suicide, you spend the rest of forever asking yourself, What if I had done this? What if I hadn't done that? I am very hopeful that this about 988 mental health crisis line. We need to do something better in this country. If you have experienced pain like this, losing a loved one, or even more importantly, if you have that sad, darkness within you, my heart goes out to you! Please get support. R.I.P. Brigitte.
988 is actually super unsafe for folks and doesn’t provide safety for everyone from police or humiliation - please do some research please
@@qdarling628 gfy
@@qdarling628 why is 988 unsafe?
The should impose to lose weight first, then that's the big first step to all these problems, if not they'll be surprised even these helpers/councilor/concerned staffs they themselves are having suicidal thoughts but they are just good in keeping it under the rug.
She’s with Jesus now living on forever until we meet again ❤️✝️
The big elephant in the room is that a bad economy and poor wages with no hope of a better future destroys people internally. Nobody is taught how to deal with that and how to express despair. People would have better mental and physical help if their reality was simply better, and had a coping mechanism.
Theres many countries and regions in the world where the people would give everything they have to get to live in a place like Wyoming. The elephant in the room is American culture and mindset. Unless youve left to other countries you wouldnt know how odd people think in the US.
@@Yarmox why is this happening to us?
@@Yarmox "American culture and mindset" unless you've lived in Wyoming then don't speak about something you don't know. Obviously they have a high suicidal rate for a reason. You make it sound like people from other countries would kill to live there. Get real
@@Yarmox and many Americans would kill to be elsewhere too…. Perspective…
@@jponz85 Yes people would actually kill to live there. Especially if they're from a 3rd world country.
Also a part of their suicide problem in WY was already stated in the video. It's the openess of the state and the older generations mentally of hiding your mental problems. That type of mentally is why men die way earlier than women.
Because it's taboo or "gay" for men to talk about their feelings. Which is a level of insecurity.
lost my father to suicide at the age of 4, so it’s really something that I carry with me every day. I think about my dad from time to time and I’ll have my annual cry, but at the end of the day if you feel alone just know that you are not!
Bruh how tf do u even rmbr him at 4 stop the cap
@@ivix9536 I have memories of my own father. I wasn’t told he died by suicide tho until I was 14. I don’t got to explain myself to nobody what the hell i gotta lie on the internet for???
I used to live in Wyoming and I did become suicidal. I got help and then moved out of Wyoming. I haven't had a problem since. I since learned that 3 friends of mine living there have committed suicide.
Where did you move to
May I ask what it is about that state that causes people to think the way they do? What did you realize was the reason for the depression you experienced?
@@raziele92 We’re social beings. Even here in CA, even on the worst days I realize sometimes people stick around for the sake of making it seems as though there’s “nothing wrong.” You can only do it for so long. It’s a matter of letting people know, there’s something wrong, but let’s talk, it’s not weird, it’s human to feel suicidal. But if there’s something we can do to help it makes such a huge difference. I helped a few friends after money problems because I knew how much it meant, sometimes it’s not a lot, it’s just the feeling of being in an inescapable situation. People gate keep their friend groups, their families. For people with socially distant family it doesn’t help.
The wind is sooooo bad. It's part of the problem. Constant annoying wind. Not much to do, no real opportunity. It's rough there mentally.
@@christopher2206 During the great dust bowl of the 1930s, many people committed suicide. They found a suicide note one housewife- who lived in on a very remote farm- left. It simply said "Can't stand to hear this wind blow no more."
Wyoming has very few people and a very strict way of thinking overall. it makes for a lot of solidarity and can be hard to be yourself out there unless your into the common way of things.
I grew up in a family like that with a strict way of thinking and not feeling and from what I've learned, it's pretty common. That's why it's necessary for us to get the education to the self to learn to understand how our back rounds shaped us for better or worse. That way we can keep the things that are healthy and start getting rid of the unhealthy things like suppressing emotions, not talking about problems, not asking for help, connecting with healthy people and disconnecting from unhealthy ones even if it is your family and a lot of other things. It's the most important work any of us will ever do.
It's not just Wyoming, trust me.
Yep, a harsh way of thinking. You better get up and get’er done.
Wyoming is horribly cuckolded. Most of the young women from Wyoming leave and sleep around with street gang members, leaving Wyomings young men to live sexless, unhappy, and lonely lives of alcoholism, drugs, and suicide. Of course, they won't ever tell the raw truth about this though because truth is not PC in modern times.
@Mr. chicano and that is why I no longer live there. I can't condone the anger and hatred that my family has towards other people merely because they are different colored, or worship a different god.
I'm glad I was born in a praying family. I pray every morning and avoid toxic attachments.
I love the sun and outdoors.
God is good !
My late Husband and I lived in Medicine Bow WY. There are a lot of things that factor into the whole problem of suicide in Wyoming. The towns are such a distance away from each other, there’s the depressed job situation. Most of the small towns don’t have enough jobs or activities for teens. Where we lived Our church closed because there weren’t enough parishioners and we had to go to church 20 miles away. The town that we went to church at, didn’t have a grocery store, a bank, a gas station and the major job offering there closed, because the government shut down the coal mining company. It was truly depressing to see people struggling to keep their towns alive. Those were just the problems close to where we lived. We left two years after we got there because my husband got so depressed because of the wind constantly blowing in the valley that we lived in.
I’ve driven through Wyoming and so much of it feels so desolate that I can see how many can be depressed there.
There’s plenty to do in towns but towns are design well
It's a bleak place. I can see how it would exacerbate depression.
Yes the climate in Wyoming is strange.
Wow a lot of us from other states think of nothing but beautiful nature and happy people in Wyoming.
I know about 25 people who took their own lives all mostly age 18 to early 20's and every single one was Male. Men's emotions aren't taken seriously and we need to talk to our Sons about Mental health from a very early age. It can still happen anyway what this poor Father is going through I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
Wow so young . Usually white males 45-55 have the highest suicide rate in America
Societal norms perpetuate the abuse of men .
Mentally ok men are the ones breeding more. This is better than constant help resources. Like me or hate me, I only speak the natural truth.
True
Women attempt it more, it's a shitty state to be in all around for everyone.
Not surprising with how difficult it is to live comfortably these days. If you don't have family to help you it's rough out here
As someone who works in mental health, this country needs more emergency mental health options. The demand is much higher then what mental health providers can handle.
I would say, the country needs to *take care of the vulnerable, with diversion and prevention* , instead of waiting till it becomes an emergency and throwing useless money and bodies at the "problem". By the time a person makes the decision to end their lives, they've been in pain for MANY YEARS.
myself as well, and I agree. 🙏🏽
@@ChineduOpara facts
It also needs to change it's culture. Complete rugged individualism isn't really conducive to mental health.
Idiot.
The options are here, they just all cost over $1000.
This country needs to get rid of for-profit healthcare. End of story.
Please don't be a fu*king id*ot and pretend any other way.
I live in Wyoming. I don't believe it's all about the "Cowboy Culture" here, you need to remember that the biggest drug highway runs all the way through Wyoming, from East to West, Interstate 80.
Parents don't understand or want to understand, that Middle school & High school in Wyoming is hard, very hard. If you're not an athlete, a cheerleader, very smart, or have parents with money, then YOU ARE NOTHING on the school system of Wyoming. Not just from the kids who bully you, but also from the Teachers and Administration that educates you.
Kids are taught, from a very young age in Wyoming, usually by their own PARENTS, don't associate with other kids who are beneath you. You ONLY associate with kids who have parents who are in the same wealth gap as we are, kids who wear the right clothes, or are into the same hobbies as we are.
When America was starting to deal with bullying, Wyoming wasn't even addressing it.
There's like a 2 generation gap in Wyoming from the rest of the US. Wyoming is 20 years or more behind the entire country.
And now that we are being taken over by MAGAts, it's even worse!
Well said
Great comment🌹
MAGA
Don't blame trump for an obviously generations old way of thinking about life. He probably doesn't even know where Wyoming is in the first place 😂
hahaha America dealing with bullying? You're funny teachers just say "its just words and move on"
These lifelines won't prevent suicide. Once someone's mind is made up they don't seek attention, they act like nothing is wrong and then it just happens.
Parents are part of the problem. If you have a child you need to have their back.
You need to be open and accepting and not ram any religious beliefs down the throat of a child.
I see so many kids who LITERALLY have not had any conversation with their parents.
They are yelled at and an inconvenience
The parents know NOTHING about the child's life
I have talked with people who have had no childhood.
They had no love and tons of neglect and abuse
It is heartbreaking
Prepare to see more of that, unfortunately.
Can’t believe how accurate this is
Absolutely. You show me a healthy parent/s I'll show you a healthy kid. Unfortunately what you described is more the nomral. My childhood was like that and I'm still working on my issues and will be for the rest of my life. Thankfully we live in a time where we can start to understand what happened, how it affected us and using solutions to deal with them. My parents also grew up in dysfunctional families and so did their parents. This goes way back and just keeps getting passed on from generation to generation. Pass it on or pass it back as they say.
I have suicidal depression & CPTSD for this exact reason....Childhood abuse does break a person.
I'm one of those kids. I'm grateful for your awareness. I really wish abusers went to jail. It should be a crime to have broken me, robbed me of many things and many years of my life, to have me spend most of my life on recovery, obscuring my identity - I've been unsure of who I am for a long time, to the point I wasn't sure I was a person at all with my depression making me seem inhuman - and for irresponsibly having children they had no intention of caring for. I don't even know if it's safe to have a child of my own, I can only hope having a partner to help me could make that a possibility.
For the first time in my life I feel good. It's been 2 months of that. I don't know if it'll last, and I'm not sure if I'm well on my way to being recovered. But never give up. Keep going, keep fighting.
I’ve been to Casper Wyoming, during the winter months. Being there felt alone, it’s something that hits different.
Fun fun fun
TILL YOU MEET A NIGGA WITH A GUN
Its not the guns, its not the altitude, its the fact that young people under 40, working a full time job- cannot afford a home, a family, a future.
Exactly.
That's a problem for all ages everywhere.
I spent most if my life in Alaska and suicide is rampant there too. The miserable weather and darkness all winter play a big part. Nearly every town and village is disconnected and accessible only by air. These places offer little future to young people and life there can seem very unrewarding and hopeless.
Dam, I was thinking of being an a
ALASKA state trooper too. I live in California and always wanted to become the trooper after the show.
@Lawrence Daniels - Dont think he or she wants to get robbed on the daily.
Am praying for the people of Wyoming, sending them all my love and prayers for strong faith and support thru tough times. You are loved and people do care.
OMG THANK U!! I just received your thoughts and prayers fresh off the grill, still warm! Right as I was about to pull the tr*gger, your prayer came into my phone like a text message and the bullet went through my body without hurting me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD IS GREAT, GLORY TO HIM XDDDD
@Ricky Smith Ok I will use Yahweh, the original pagan name
I have driven through Wyoming. I felt suicidal. Endless miles of nothingness. Drugs and alcohol contribute to depression. Loneliness, isolation, lack of support all contributors to suicide rate
Hang
I can't even begin to imagine the stress the hotline workers go through during a busy day. You just have to take on whatever a person is dealing with and just go on with your day. And then deal with the next caller. And the next. You can't keep that up alone.
Lol you are right on the money. It will turn into a "checked box" as in, "Yep, we are tackling our mental health crisis, look you can call 988 instead of 911, so now cops won't be guaranteeing your suicide. Now there's a chance you live" LOL
For-profit healthcare is a tragedy. But I will defend it with every vote because hey, it's not every day you get to participate in bringing down America while also saying "told ya so"
Boohoo
My brother works as a therapist in Cheyenne and has talked about how pervasive this issue is.
Interesting, thank you for sharing.
You tell em to leave bro my dad always told me there’s not anything to do 17 years there’s nothing to do in Cheyenne so much depressing becoming Mormon you should told em to go to LA walk the beaches of Malibu
Why isn't the State government doing anything?
@Momma Bear beautiful
You matter. Please don't think you don't. Hope is real and available.
Suicide isn't always a decision (to die) as this father said of his sons actions. Suicide isn't always the objective of a soul tearing itself apart. Not everyone who pulls the trigger thinks, "I'll show them," in their final moments. Sometimes the momentum of the situation just carries them away.
well... im going to eventually.. what else am I going to do? Wait untill I die alone or am too weak to take care of myself? I dont have anyone to show anything.
@@Jack-yq6ui find true friends or get a pet and you won’t be alone and take care of yourself and you won’t need to be taken care of when your old (50/50, genetics might get ya regardless of how well you treated your body)
@@41052 you really missed the point of this video. You effectively told Jack to "cowboy up" by telling him to go find "true friends" (popular entertainment has warped the meaning of true friends) or a pet which is just making light of the seriousness of his situation. Oh, and "take care of yourself". Wow. Guess that never occurred to him. This is the definition of telling someone to "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" which does nothing but add to a person's self loathing if it doesn't happen. Why not just say, "Bro, you might be by yourself, but you are not alone." Maybe Jack is so messed up that thinking he can get off this ride if it gets too bad is the only thing that keeps him going. If that's true it's good enough cause crazy random stuff happens all the time and tomorrow something good might randomly happen that changes everything. Every day is a lotto ticket for us crazies and you can't win if you don't play.
@@Jack-yq6ui Dude, f whoami and every other "normal" living their charmed bs life. If they had any sense they would be scared shitlezz too.
Religions rules, bullying, loneliness, poverty are the most common reasons why people give up, so if they want to change those numbers they have to address those issues first
Yeah we have to stop trying to be such ugly monsters. It is not a part of our nature. So it only hurts us and drives us mad. If we were to be ourselves, we would all get along, naturally.
Religion’s rules? Where is that study? I’ve heard all of the others but that one as reasons of suicide.
@@xaviercopeland2789 well Christianity definitely gives you the mind set that you’re not good enough. Think less of yourself. Being poor and meek is being a good person. Bad if you’re rich. Don’t enjoy your nature like sex (even though you’re designed for it) or pleasure. Be too uptight. Judge others and yourself. We are all sinners. Etc. it has messed a lot of people up I’m sure you’ll find lots of studies on this.
yup
@@qui_etes_vous I thought it keeps people from committing suicide so they do not go to hell.
God bless all the people struggling with depression 🙏
Loneliness, persecuted, helpless, and poor.
Everyone in the USA should have health care and access to mental health services and it should be free and paid for by taxes like it is in other countries
Tell Republicans to fund mental health bills !
Absolutely. 2022 and The fact that we can send billions of dollars in foreign aid and yet we don't have free Healthcare...wake up people
FYI I'm neither Democrat nor Republican im a realist
Even if it was free, Wyoming is a massive state with only 600k people having access to professionals in such a spread out place will be difficult.
Great, now I lose even more of my paycheck
@@dmwanderer9454 tax the rich and billionaires and corporations. And better to pay taxes and everyone gets covered rather than pay the insurance premiums and millions of people are not covered or only partly covered
So you’re going to send police officers to a suicide call instead of someone trained to emotionally intervene… Because that’s worked so well so far.
@roan: That's what 'defund the police' was all about. It was to transfer resources to mental health personnel to be called upon and not an armed, marginally trained bully/coward police to respond to people suffering mentally. So quickly the purpose of the 'defund' movement was perverted by ignorant, hateful people.
I’m struggling, but I am trying my best. I will never leave my kids the way my dad left us.
I can imagine how much support all the first responders need just to deal with the amount of suicide attempts and suicide completion... This is horrific.
It's terrible. I have a friend that worked for a biohazard clean up company. He said the suicides he saw still haunt him.
Never a word about them in the news anyway that’s for sure. Can you imagine them ever declaring a national emergency over suicide like they did covid? Nope, because remember jabs make money, suicide just reveals the flaws in the system.
My brother committed suicide when he was a student at the University of Wyoming. He was 19 years old.
I'm sorry for the loss of your brother.
@@redbloodedbutterfly thank you.🌼
He probably had good reason to do so. Not every human is as lucky as the ones who have good, successful, loved lives. Some people just get cajoled, lambasted, ridiculed, F'ed, ignored, cheated, wrecked, and screwed for decades. When enough is enough, it's completely understandable to "call the game" and concede.
It's not like anyone CHOOSES to be born. So, it's nice to select one's exit. Especially if it marks the only accomplishment one will ever be remembered for! 💪😎🤟
@@Novastar.SaberCombat you pretty much nailed it.
@JP Fan that’s absolute bullshit.
I consider myself a strong woman of faith but let me tell you when I get hit with depression or anxiety attacks I feel so hopeless. It’s a horrible feeling that only the person that goes through it can explain.
We drove from California to Nebraska and it amazes me how much land there is that's not being utilized... there's nothing to do in Wyoming that's why
In Wyoming you can eat spicy chili bowls and keep farting the next day.
Can say the same for Nebraska, don’t think they are as high on list
Depends on the part of the state. A large chunk of it is basically a western extension of Nebraska. There are parts that are great if you love outdoor recreation. I don't recommend it if living in a culturally/ethnically diverse place is important to you though.
You could round up all those homeless people in California and dump them in Nebraska. Plenty of wide open space for tent camping
You could round up all those homeless people in California and dump them in Nebraska. Plenty of wide open space for tent camping
I have PTSD and I sometimes hate the way I feel and it causes a lot of other problems like holding a job and keeping a roof over my head , my paranoia and anxiety causes me to stay away from people and makes me really uncomfortable
So u scared of people?
The problem is the people in wyoming, I’ve know 3 people who committed suicide in wyoming. All were lgbtq. The bullying they faced and the harassment of people. It’s the reason after I survived high school in that hell hole I got out.
I believe it. Remember #matthewshepard
Laco of Grindr and piss orgies is not a reason to off yourself.
For all the taxes that are paid in our country, we sure don't get much for what we pay for to improve our lives. One of 24 states, that does not invest in its people, but wants to expand the population.
Wyoming has no state tax and one of the lowest sales tax rates. They’re concerned with the wealthy not the common folk.
@@Justmekpc Yet they've convinced the average person to vote for them and against their best interest, usually with wedge issues. Don't think the republicans are done with trying to get rid of social security and medicare, they're not. Also a state that wouldn't expand medicaid for the poorest of their citizens but I guess Jesus was a fiscal conservative who told his followers to pull themselves up by their boot straps, whatever that means because that's pretty much impossible.
We got plenty of money for Ukraine and foreign aid tho.. smh
@Mr. chicano - I do hope so. States like Wyoming are in need of funding for health services.
@Momma Bear - 🤣😂😆
Left California and moved to Wyoming to have a better quality of life.
Unpacked everything and settled in. Been living here 14 days. Sit down in front of the tv and watch this while my pre teens ride bikes outside. What hell have I unknowingly stepped into.
Trouble. Kids need social interaction. So you have to be mindful of their well being. isolation is damaging to their health.
@@kappadarwin9476 as a recently widowed man. Caring for 5 kids. Ages 12,12,10,9,8,8
I’m a bit concerned as what is to come.
How’s everything going there?
@@travist6345 moved to Montana
The wind in WY and Casper especially has a weird effect on people. I've been to Casper several times and everytime it feels "heavy" or "oppressive". And it seems to never stop.
I hope Wyoming can solve the crisis , it's hard living alone and being isolated.
Montana is worse.
@@victorhardin2186 no I think you have it wrong , the people who take their lives were too strong and proud to ask for help , most have depression
@@johnsinger8503 makes sense I retract my previous statement
Absolutely,it beats u down.ive been having this weird feeling like I dont wanna be alone anymore,its overwhelming and scary
@@godblessacountrygirl5324 we all need someone to lean on , even if it's a Doggo
Only in america, where people have more access to guns than mental health professionals...
Guns bro 😎
When we moved to Wyoming, I was told ppl committed suicide there often due to constant the wind. I thought that was a ridiculous reason to take your life until I'd lived there for awhile. It rly will drive you crazy
Due to the constant wind.....
I pray blessings over Wyoming.
It was actually a very hospitable place when I was traveling 🧳 with my family as a kid. Our van broke down and we were stranded in the days of no cell phones 📱 and technology, early 1990’s.
A trucker took care of us and drove my family to the nearest holiday inn 🏨
I will never forget how they took care of us out there. May there be blessings throughout that land.
Too bad prayers do nothing
Educate yourself on the atrocities of Christianity. Your religion is fake and your prayers are you talking to yourself to make you feel better about yourself. Try embarrassing reality
@@auroramothergoddess Yes they do
Prayers worked for me and they can work for anyone if they just believe.
@@auroramothergoddess prayers according to Gods will aren’t.
Listen prayers are nice, it shows that you do think about the people that are in trouble. That you wish to help them.
However, I'm sorry to say, action tends to be more helpful. Taking the time to listen and allowing someone to let out their emotions in healthy ways, art and writing, can be extremely helpful. Funding organizations dedicated to helping those with depression can be extremely helpful as well
I think social media has a part in this too
Social media is available everywhere. I dont disagree that social media is a major cause of depression, but unless there are statistics showing Wyoming is using social media at a much higher than average rate, social media does nothing to explain the outlier suicide numbers in Wyoming.
I agree. And to the point below, social media should be examined as a factor, not direct cause. If the decedent's used social media, it's relevant. To the extent it factored in, is a conclusion for the experts.
@@vanadyan1674 Its social media and young people getting Fomo.
I live in Wyoming, and this is the first time Ive heard of this program. Access to healthcare and even everyday services is very poor here. Laramie doesnt have a single psychiatrist outside of the inpatient hospital unit, for example. Then there's widespread poverty and alcoholism.
Its hard to get out of Wyoming if you're poor
I tried to end my life when I dropped low when my son was kidnapped from me by his mom , from california all the way to utah when he was 3 years old . I still suffer from depression , but those thoughts of hurting myself just goes into anxiety mode . May all the lives lost Rest In Peace. ♥️
Did you call the authorities. Kids need both parents. Start reading the Bible so the next time you see him you’ll tell him something that can change his life.
@@amandavalentino3818 State probobly gave her the ok to take him
You seen your kids since?
The kid is her kid too, wouldn't call it kidnapping.
Okay who has custody? If you both have it idk if it’s kidnapping, if she has it it’s definitely not kidnapping, but if you have custody it sure is. I’d recommend getting help from authorities.
With how inflation going up dramatically, I don’t see suicide incidents going down soon unfortunately. Most of these people would rather die and let all their debt go rather than be alive battling everyday to barely make it to the next check. It’s the sad reality we live in and it’s sad that we have to fight to LIVE.
And you just assume these people are killing themselves because of this based off what?
True
Without the sun and warmth for most of the year I would be depressed.
Wyoming is sunny 95% of the time. Obviously you don’t live here. It’s not like Oregon or Washington…
@@nunya8903 True..I was thinking about the number of daylight hours in the winter.
It’s high desert, yo.
I live in Rawlins Wy since 2021 and we get a lot of sun in the winter!
@@dianabeurman364 so then whats the problem honestly suicide happens everywhere they're just blaming the city at this point 🙄
Help those people financially. Kindness goes a long way when people are alone.
I agree.
I have lots of finances. I have no family and no friends. No one to love and love me back. Been suicidal for several years now, but fighting it as best as I can. I am blessed to be able to travel internationally, and just be around non-Americans for a while. It's not all about money. In fact, often times money might even make things worse (distraction, false sense of security, fake "friends" who just want free meals and free partying).
Can be divert some of that 43 Billion Ukraine money? Or the billions to Israel every year?
You can ask the voters to raise taxes and spend more on mental health and the public safety net, but they have said no time and time again.
Great reporting 👏🏽
There is no weakness in getting help. It’s the hardest thing to do, not the weakest. How we treat mens mental health needs to change in the south and Midwest. More research needs to go into the causes of mental health, how it correlates to certain jobs, certain age groups, locations, etc.. My dad, grandfathers and Two uncles are doctors and all agree they see a higher rate in suicide and studies that chronic physical illness causes extreme depression and mental health issues and the quality of life is low often especially without access to pain management
Which has swung too far to the side of refusing to treat serious pain. In a land where these men work their bodies so hard they are often facing failing physical health their mental health WILL follow if it’s deteriorating. Mental health issues and chronic physical health issues may overlap and how we treat it needs to be looked into. How you spent your free time. If your lifestyle values living and more just working.
I'm still here, but I'll never talk to another person as me ever again. Obviously humanity deserves not me.
there is no real help available. just a bunch of vultures in lab coats smiling at you while they make millions selling you ineffective medications and never addressing the core cause of all these problems
Well said. Having lived with extreme chronic pain for 13 years I can certainly relate. Thanks be to God I was relieved of this pain by surgery/ unexplained healing and the forfeit of my fertility. Though I no longer suffer I still remember the intense suffering and difficultly getting Drs to take me seriously. That was 6 years ago. Now with the supposed opioid epidemic people in legitimate pain are told to “deal with it” I know for many suicide will be answer… that is sad on so many levels.
I remember traveling thru Wyoming and my car was having issues at the moment once they saw me immediately I was being harassed by police not 1 but like 6 cops. I will never go or pass by Wyoming ever again…
@Theophilus Eugene Connor enjoying the boot leather? ✌️
Out of state tags that’s all.They really wanted to know why I was there after they searched my car checked my background and I showed proof of the reason why I was passing thru they finally let me go with my drive…
I'm proud to say I'll never visit Wyoming. Sounds like a shithole. Look, nobody wants to live there so they're taking a lead dinner instead XD
I heard a lot of police departments need o arrest people to justify the need to have such a large budget. That stop just smelled like they were trying to get you on something.
I lived there until I was 26 and I am in my early 60s. WY is not a very accepting place to live if you are different in any way.
Judgement was extreme and still remains.
Poverty if you are single, even if you have a decent career, esp if you are a female.
If you are poor, if you dress different.
For men finding jobs are few and far between.
No expanded adult Medicaid which would positively impact more than 50%
of adults there by paying partial or all healthcare even if you are working a full time job. Ppl work against themselves and do not vote for politicians that would allow the free federal assistance that is given to all states. Just myopic one team types that cut their noses off to spite their face.
I love the place, but visiting is all I can tolerate.
It's great that the federal government is making counselors more easily accessible. But at the end of the day that's only addressing the symptom, not the cause. Yes we need counselors. But we also need to help prevent people for becoming suicidal in the first place. I'm sure there are many aspects that contribute to it and it's a very complicated situation, but making this country more equitable and reducing the wealth inequality and home affordability wouldn't hurt.
The greed is causing these problems. Corporate greed.
Counselors suck , mental health medications like zoloft and lexapro are better
American culture is sick. You must be happy and dreaming of bigger things all the time. Money is the only recognized absolute.
Education is for getting a job, instead of intellectual curiosity.
People need rise up against the government right now otherwise this result and others like it will keep happening and continue to happen
@@borrasca2311 and corporations, and really any authority right?
Just seeing them drive through those big open landscapes gives this feeling of "the void". If that makes sense. It feels like haunting emptiness that goes on forever, and I think the idea that no one is right next door is really lonely. Then, the sounds of the wind whipping through your bones. I can't imagine living there. It's like that state was designed to tear a person apart. 😢 May all the people who were lost rest in peace.
I’ve driven through there a number of times. I found it to be very boring because most of the state is desolate. 10th largest state in the U.S. yet it has the smallest population, even compared to tiny states such as Hawaii and Rhode Island. I can’t imagine living there outside of Cheyenne or Yellowstone. Outside of their biggest towns, I could see how human interaction is a highly limited thing. It has to be lonely living there.
Funny, I see those landscapes and find them incredibly appealing. I want to live there someday.
You're right, it's vast and feels very isolating, like being out in the middle of the ocean.
Just driving through it, it's a long stretch of highway
Looking at that reminded me of the horror movie Jeepers creepers where the monster abducts people from their cars on broad empty highways in the middle of nowhere.
@@206Vin Those places are fine to visit but sucks to live there all year round. A lot of my folks live out in rural areas in NC and it feels very boring especially if you don't have a car.
The fact that most people don't know what there is in Wyoming, tells you why. Zero opportunities, zero money to go anywhere else, no light at the end of the tunnel.
Society has a lot to answer for tbh
Have a few people I grew up with that suicide.....still trip out about it time to time. Just because someone wants you to die, it's not their choice.
I now live with severe social anxiety because of society...
Absolutely.
"We have a societal issue not a suicidal issue"
Society is f*****. The government only cares about profit. The whole point in modern life is to get a job and work just so you can provide. Back then you could actually live a wonderful life in nature without having a work for money
"We were going in opposite directions instead of working together" I wish this would be plastered on every billboard and voiced to every person. we cannot heal alone. isolation is what kills. I hate being isolated.
I too live a very isolated existence friend. But I have just made contact with you and you are going to see what I have written. We are not as isolated as we think. It's just different friend. Just remember this comment represents a human being. Not some nameless, faceless algorithm. I am responding to something you put out into the world. You are not completely isolated. Fair it is to lament the lack of any close personal contact in our lives, but we should never lose sight of what we do have and never dwell on what we don't. Friend if you were truly isolated , you wouldn't be reading this right now. I hope that is an encouraging thought to you. You have the power to connect with people all over the world. People who otherwise wouldn't even know you exist. Use this power friend. Maybe you won't feel so isolated. Connect with people in the way you can. Your comment reached me. May my comment encourage you to reach out to others.
Equality or isolated people, punishment? We really don't risk equality. We prefer to torture some of us! Always will! Capitalism, jobs, poverty -. Sorry but not everyone can go indoors! But everyone Will work! For those who go inside at night! Human sacrifice is part of the freedom you have in america. Nobody thinks you can continue without torture for some, houses for you. I'm not like you. I would never go indoors. Home is for the haters who made me homeless. You are winning. You are the folk in the homes. The homeless aren't evil like you.
@@patricialongo5870
Things aren't always what they seem friend. Hang in there.
Oh, come on! Guns aren't the answer to why we have such a high suicide rate in Wyoming. There are lots of reasons why. It is difficult to make a living here and often we don't have anything to fall back on in hard times. Isolation is huge, although we pride ourselves on being individuals and don't like to be around a lot of people. Alcohol and drugs use causes a lot of problems. Bullying in school goes on all the time. Bullying against people who are "different". Being outdoors saves my soul.
I feel so bad for the people who live in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and some of Utah and don’t enjoy living there because they’re so isolated from the rest of the country and it makes them depressed.
They live there for some reason idk why.
we dont want all the trash moving here from other big city states! I was born and raised in WI, and lived here in WYoming for almost 30 years now... only thing I miss in WI is the cheese curds and smoked fish! We dont have to dodge bullets like folks back east do....even tho everyone here in Wyoming carries, there is hardly any violence except from some people from other states that come here...murder here in my WY city at a motel...guy from Calif came here and murdered and cut up a guy from here! SMH
@@AndrewSmith-nf5yv The East isn't homogenous.
@@palmshoot I cant tell.
@Lawrence Daniels We get our share of fun and excitement: ruclips.net/video/h8-SnYHO27g/видео.html (When the trash comes to visit)
My mother attempted suicide many times when I was a teenager. When I was older I found out that it was after she had an abortion…..now I’m much older and like my mom I’m disabled and unable to work. I’m grateful for a loving husband who helps me otherwise I would be homeless and on the streets. I’m praying and reading the Bible a lot for comfort. I want to help others and be useful as much as I can. I don’t know how many months or years I have left.
Sounds like capitalism treated you just fine:)
@@iPeeOnBabies totally inappropriate comment
There have been several peer reviewed articles that link depression to higher altitude. Wyoming, the entire state, is above 6500 ft. in altitude with many places much higher. Isolation, no communication, wind and cold don't help much. My mother and her family came from generations in Wyoming (near Rawlins) without a suicide loss but they all moved out asap. They moved to pre fire Paradise and Magalia, CA where they lived long lives. (I was born and raised elsewhere.) Along with high altitude can come pulmonary hypertension of Type 1, a fatal disease of the pulmonary artery. I too have sensed the "darkness" in Wyoming and think it is related to altitude. The John Wayne/Regan cowboy culture is deadly and never really existed. Actors and game show hosts need to stay out of politics and perhaps Wyoming would have extended its Medicaid program.
The goddamned wind and cold in the winter will drive a lonely person insane and into depression. Folks with families and connections do better than isolated single or lonesome folks.
It is a weird thing too save for summers that you can have have super nice weather in FoCo and then when you start getting close to the Wyo border and it is grey, dark and gloomy. Then you see the all seeing eye of Mordor on the horizon... just a bit of change in elevation and longitude can make a big difference.
Honestly it sounds so eerie the way you talk about it. Almost like a horror movie. I've never been but I'm thinking that might be for the best.
@@titusflavius5668 it's not an exaggeration or an approximation; I have experienced exactly everything you have said with Fort Collins and returning to Laramie. Down to the loneliness.
@@comosellama5287 Actually Wyoming is pretty decent a place overall. Just from Oct to April you never know what you are going to get with weather
There are many towns and cities above 6,500 feet in the world and they don't have an elevated suicide risk, don't just make things up because a bunch of conservatives offed themselves like they did in record numbers under Obama because snowflakes are gonna melt...
If you want to remove suicide
Make sure everyone owns a home everyone
Everyone has a secure job
Everyone has access to health care being natural medicine naturopathy
Everyone has organic food
Everyone has friends and family
Everyone has free counseling and free psychologist
That would mean govt investment. And many ppl sadly aren't willing to do that.
You forgot, stop using social media
You mean bigger government? No thanks
So a move to Europe seems to be what you are recommending.
@@vanadyan1674 we can't always help ourselves and it is the government's job to help.
As someone who lives just an hour away from the Wyoming border in Idaho, here’s what I have to say: Free healthcare(which includes mental health) would really help these numbers go down! As well as more resources for veterans, those apart of the LGBTQ+ communities, and for those who are homeless or live below poverty line which happens to be most in these areas, including myself.
Hope that you are doing ok.
Live in Wyoming. So many suicides. 10 years ago my bf shot himself. 💔
Wyoming seems like a hell of it's own making. The tough guy attitude is horribly toxic. They're religiously devoted to their cowboy past and love their alcohol and guns and "freedom" yet use their nanny state to keep cannabis fully illegal, a wonderful medicine that can greatly help depression. It's so sad to see a state so stuck in their ways they'd rather kill themselves than evolve.
bingo
I suffered a dangerous suicidal depression for some reason for 2 years here in Gillette Wyoming. It turns out I was vitamin deficient. I haven't been depressed or had that dark scary cloud over me since I brought my levels up.
Which vitamin can you please share
Setting up hotlines might help some people but it’s not going to make much of a difference. We need to make life and society more tolerant of people who are different or struggle with mental illness. Not everyone can function at the same level and that shouldn’t mean extreme poverty and isolation. If your born with poor health to family that’s not supportive and rich your basically screwed.
We have a corporate problem, they control your way of thinking 💭 without you even realizing it, and people vote against their own interest. We need to expand our social safety net and remove profit motive on certain sectors of our economy, starting with healthcare. No one should make a profit out of someones tragedy. MEDICARE FOR ALL NOW!!!!!
^ Thisss
Yup but I don’t think that’s ever going to happen
The place in itself is a depressing place. Thank god I live in California. Talking to strangers won’t save lives, changing the status quo will
The republican heartland devoid of compassion and services.
The more that communities come together to create support/lifelines, it becomes a bull horn of sorts that reminds us we're not alone. We all have a burden we carry that can make or break us. Making these suicide hotlines available are so important. Funding these services shouldn't have to be a challenge, it needs to be a priority. 🕊️
And Facebook simply makes us suicidal anyway, so don't celebrate yet. Community? Facebook is really there. No community.
@@patricialongo5870 social media isn't social. Reaching out to neighbors, friends, volunteering, being available to others when possible, is social. Spending real valuable time with those we trust and love are lifelines. 🙏🏼
@@ovehlu true. Obviously not all people are welcome to reach out, and after being outside of society and outside of buildings while working, starving, losing it in the cold-. In america- , after working without sick days with covid - I can't just go inside a house and enter a bathroom.... It's way too late for me. It's impossible. My skin wants to be ripped off. I am not like the people who let others be homeless. You are the ones who go indoors. I couldn't. It's for you. I'm not a monster!
@@patricialongo5870 I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like you've been through difficult times. God knows COVID made everything 10 times as bad for so many people. We are complete stranger's to each other, but I want you to know, I'm thinking of you and sending positive thoughts your way, that things improve in your life, and that your heart becomes lighter, and filled with love. 🕊️
@Momma Bear Amen🙏🏼🕊️
you all should be proud of someone you know who committed suicide. Yes it sucks. It really sucks FOR YOU. You think it was easy for them to do that? It takes someone to suffer for years to even start trying suicide. They did it finally with bravery.
Hopefully a way can be found to ensure a permanent funding for 988. More efforts to get the word out that this is available. Finally, infrastructure needs huge improvement so that people can use whatever technology to use the service. It’s totally unacceptable for people young people to not have access to mental health care.
It's totally unacceptable for anyone to not have access to any type of medical care. I think this fathers son probably had access but like his dad said, he felt like he couldn't say to his dad that he's struggling. So even when I had access to mental health care I didn't know how to ask because I spent my life acting like I was fine and also hadn't been taught as a child to be able to ask for help because that's how my parents were also taught. the healthier a family is the healthier the kids will be physically, mentally, emotionally and socially.
I agree that 988 number needs to be funded as a first step that people can do who are in crisis. It's amazing how just opening up and starting to share your issues will mke people feel better and give them hope that they can get help.
While I was attending a University I became very depressed, (which happens often). So I went to their health clinic to set up an appointment to see a therapist, the wait for it was over 3 months.....I was appalled and saddened that the school didn't make that a priority for their students. And I want to call them out for it, this was at University of Santa Barbara where all the 'rich' folks go..
Im one of those who prefers my own company. The pandemic really hasn't impacted me mentally. I love rural America, i feel free there. When i go to the cities, its just too much for me. Its important to keep supplemented in places wheres theres less vitamin D for the sake of keeping mental health.
I agree, i think most people who are introverts did not have such a tough tine during the pandemic. I didnt, i am used to being alone so it wasnt hard for me.
As an introvert, I was honestly thriving during lockdowns 🫢🤷🏻♀️
As an introvert, I had absolutely no problem with social distancing during the pandemic. As an added bonus, I never once got sick because of the distancing and I felt like a was really enjoying myself during that time. It was so nice to go in public with no crowds and wearing the masks made me not worry about being recognized.
I moved away from WY with my mom when I was 8, I have been living in major cities ever since but go back to visit family there all the time. I have 4 family members that committed suicide in WY. I don't know anyone outside of WY that has though, crazy not that it doesn't happen elsewhere but that really is saying something considering how low the population of the state is.
I have relatives in Wyoming but thankfully they are moving out ASAP. That place ain't right.
Real men cry and ask for help when needed.
bottling up emotions will bring long lasting anger and saddness.
Please seek help dont be afraid.