The Fastest HillClimb Monster || 630Hp/760Kg Mercedes SLK Judd V8 - St. Ursanne Full OnBoard

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Undoubtedly the fastest HillClimb Monster currently racing in Europe is Reto Meisel´s creation, the Mercedes SLK340 Judd V8. This spaceframed, Carbon Fibre bodied 760Kg Monster is powered by a 3.4 Judd V8 engine unit nowadays producing around 630Hp/11.300Rpm.
    Here it is beating the All Time record for the Touring Car Class at the Legendary St. Ursanne - Les Rangiers HillClimb.
    Special thanks to MaxiPixelRallye for the outside footage provided, without which this video would be impossible to make. Subscribe to their awesome Channel at:
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Комментарии • 202

  • @acewilliams351
    @acewilliams351 6 лет назад +58

    Tech inspection declared it was only 759kg by the end of the event

  • @andrew27259
    @andrew27259 6 лет назад +47

    very good, almost as 134 Judd Georg Plasa ... but the sound of the Georg car is inimitable!

    • @SJgunguy24
      @SJgunguy24 6 лет назад +4

      andrew27259 The 134 Judd that Plasa drove sounded intoxicating.

    • @STILLNIGHTPEARL
      @STILLNIGHTPEARL 6 лет назад

      The exhaust sounded better in the 134 no doubt.

    • @titialatiatia1695
      @titialatiatia1695 5 лет назад

      Georg plasa était le meilleur pilote.

    • @titialatiatia1695
      @titialatiatia1695 4 года назад

      @Thierry Kamette Argument de débile ...

    • @Illuminwhy
      @Illuminwhy 2 года назад

      I can’t believe I’m saying this but, the slk340 sounds better than 134 at lower rpms

  • @hogan326
    @hogan326 5 лет назад +7

    What an amazing machine and body. Unbelievable power, great footage and last but not least a driver who know what he does. Simply both thumbs up bro

  • @MattyK166
    @MattyK166 6 лет назад +4

    Absolutely love the sound of that engine and exhaust. Perfection.

  • @joostinatortje
    @joostinatortje 6 лет назад +2

    How can it still be so fast with the driver's balls being that big. Insane sound and performance, simply love it.

  • @dyslexiusmaximus
    @dyslexiusmaximus 6 лет назад +163

    the car isn't low enough

    • @lloyddotimas6302
      @lloyddotimas6302 6 лет назад +14

      Ride height should be -10 cm

    • @dyslexiusmaximus
      @dyslexiusmaximus 6 лет назад +15

      yeah, i know right, what a bunch of armatures.

    • @la6335
      @la6335 6 лет назад +8

      Needs about 40° of camber too xD

    • @dyslexiusmaximus
      @dyslexiusmaximus 6 лет назад +1

      at-least haha

    • @jonas626
      @jonas626 6 лет назад +3

      He needs to be low enough to drag a leaf

  • @rokk144
    @rokk144 6 лет назад +5

    Very fast car with a very fast driver.

    • @drunkenmessiah
      @drunkenmessiah 6 лет назад +2

      If you ignore all the sparks from the titanium skid-plates, it actually looks very smooth and un-dramatic at speed. You can tell how good the driver is and how well set-up the car is by the lack of nervous, twitchy movements. No heavy steering correction, no over or understeer. Just pure grip, pure speed. What a machine.

  • @garykrank9763
    @garykrank9763 6 лет назад +5

    awesome reflexes! Just stunning ability to react so quickly!

  • @Illuminwhy
    @Illuminwhy 2 года назад +2

    Damn ground effect is amazing lol

  • @blastedgone
    @blastedgone 3 года назад +3

    I absolutely love how it completely disrespects the road as it straightens out those corners lol

  • @STILLNIGHTPEARL
    @STILLNIGHTPEARL 6 лет назад +3

    I would love to see this car run at Tsukuba, laguna seca, spa, one of those tracks, just for the heck of it. That acceleration at 3:18! 😳

  • @jayboy10thousand84
    @jayboy10thousand84 5 лет назад +4

    0:59 is the best part!

    • @Quantum973
      @Quantum973 4 года назад

      Taking corners like that at 120 mph is insane

  • @gordonsmithsa115
    @gordonsmithsa115 5 лет назад +1

    Those gear changes are lightning..... great camera angles and a big thank you for NO music.... the car was music enough.....

  • @SnackZatPC
    @SnackZatPC 6 лет назад +7

    This dude be reaching 200 by the time i reach second gear

  • @edwardzimmer2171
    @edwardzimmer2171 11 месяцев назад

    I wish there was a tachometer reading beside the speedo. Great video. Thank you.

  • @jobmunene3263
    @jobmunene3263 3 года назад

    If I could open out like that with these masterpieces of automotive engineering I would be at complete peace with the world.

  • @blkpig6664
    @blkpig6664 6 лет назад +5

    Masterpiece... 10 Stars ********** B.P.

  • @drongojonkins8945
    @drongojonkins8945 6 лет назад +17

    Surprisingly quiet inside the car..

  • @dalkaklaric7199
    @dalkaklaric7199 2 года назад

    Wow this driver has some big balls!! AWESOME!!!!

  • @Sii6X
    @Sii6X 5 лет назад +9

    Why make such a light car and then weigh it down with those god dam huge balls 😱

  • @timventers742
    @timventers742 5 лет назад +1

    That cars just working for him.

  • @hillclimbracingfan5821
    @hillclimbracingfan5821 6 лет назад +39

    Except Peugeot 208 t16 Pikes Peak,no other car is this fast.I would like to see this happen-Sebastien Loeb in his Peugeot 208 t16 Pikes Peak against Reto Meisel in his Mercedes SLK Judd in European hillclimb championship.That would be an epic duel.

    • @Vilius07Kam
      @Vilius07Kam 6 лет назад +11

      Give Peugot factory money To Reto Meisel and Reto Meisel will pass away Peugeot 208 T16 with his car :)

    • @guillaume6119
      @guillaume6119 6 лет назад +1

      Vilius Okam i think his car his from factory

    • @hillclimbracingfan5821
      @hillclimbracingfan5821 6 лет назад +6

      +Vilius Okam Well,this car costed 700000 euro to build and 4 years to develop.That's a lot of money and time.Let's not forget it has some of the best stuff racing technology can offer.It's already fast enough to take on Peugeot 208 T16.And it's continously upgraded to be even faster.

    • @hillclimbracingfan5821
      @hillclimbracingfan5821 6 лет назад +3

      +guillamume Meisel's car was developed with help from Carlsson,so it's still a private project,but very impressive one.

    • @Tom_pr
      @Tom_pr 6 лет назад +6

      nobuhiro tajima with one of the suzuki pikes peak cars can compete;)

  • @Jons_broken_toe
    @Jons_broken_toe 6 лет назад +7

    Yes. Yes. I love this channel.

  • @oscarzt1652
    @oscarzt1652 6 лет назад +1

    a very unique sound from the judd 3.4

    • @ivannevistic1368
      @ivannevistic1368 6 лет назад

      Oscar Thorpe and makes Insane power! has almost 200hp/liter on regular race fuel!

  • @brian6speed
    @brian6speed 6 лет назад +9

    Fireworks!!!

  • @mavericvinaleclirycF35V
    @mavericvinaleclirycF35V Год назад

    What a magnificent 😱 760kg with 630bhp
    Super GT500 class have 650bhp with 1100kg, imagine if this Merc were on racing circuit, bet it can go faster than LMP1

  • @joeybandit2861
    @joeybandit2861 3 года назад

    Sounds pretty civilized, a civilized monster how can it be, yes it can !

  • @MrSapper21
    @MrSapper21 6 лет назад +74

    2.3 G WOW.

    • @mrbandz2147
      @mrbandz2147 6 лет назад

      Wat is that comparible with!?

    • @Devills_hill
      @Devills_hill 6 лет назад +3

      @jan peter kankerbende beste naam ooit! anyway, 3g basically means a fat ass of 100 kg ends up waying 300kg in the corner.. ish... it's a bit complexer but if you actually want to know the shit you're way better of googling as there is much in play lol

    • @ARtroncatbama
      @ARtroncatbama 6 лет назад +1

      I saw 2.4 so far 😱

    • @bingoberra18
      @bingoberra18 6 лет назад +2

      Basically a really good sports car can pull slightly over 1G, and a touring car on slicks pulls 1.8G, so 2.3 wow!

    • @cupragamingog5110
      @cupragamingog5110 6 лет назад +2

      1min 15 secs pulling 2.6g

  • @imBigo
    @imBigo 5 лет назад +1

    3:11 3G to the left damnn!

  • @lucas23reyes94
    @lucas23reyes94 6 лет назад +5

    Legendary 💪☠

  • @gat0etern0
    @gat0etern0 3 года назад

    Pirelli tires did great job there

  • @xhall94
    @xhall94 6 лет назад +1

    Dope feature.

  • @timventers742
    @timventers742 5 лет назад +1

    Should be called St Insane.

  • @muckvariant
    @muckvariant 6 лет назад +8

    Hab ich da etwa noch Restgewinde gesehen? ;)

  • @edwinmejia4511
    @edwinmejia4511 3 года назад +1

    Adrenalina

  • @flyingdutchman700
    @flyingdutchman700 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome driving and freaking awesome AMG. Petty though the instability of the camera.

  • @usmanrai1244
    @usmanrai1244 6 лет назад +1

    nice driving

  • @DukeOfCurling
    @DukeOfCurling 6 лет назад +1

    With no doubt I'm saying that this is a Lotus 79 with an SLK body kit

  • @claudio8777
    @claudio8777 6 лет назад

    What a beast..

  • @joe125ful
    @joe125ful 6 лет назад +3

    Very scary car and crazy driver! +5Likes for Brave.

  • @simongruber8366
    @simongruber8366 Год назад

    would love to see this thing on the nurburgring or smth

  • @johncorboy7952
    @johncorboy7952 6 лет назад +1

    My old w123 could do with a Judd that is sweet 190ks around corners crazy

  • @RUL3_official
    @RUL3_official 6 лет назад +2

    WoW this is Dope! 🤘🏻🙌🏻

  • @nonopus3125
    @nonopus3125 6 лет назад +2

    Some motor!

  • @real_talk1180
    @real_talk1180 5 лет назад

    God get Reto to Nürburgring ASAP, I think hed give the Volkswagen ID a run for its money

  • @thecellm8tube
    @thecellm8tube 4 года назад

    That’s me to work!

  • @jurgenbussche
    @jurgenbussche 5 лет назад +1

    why does he move's his left foot ?

  • @mfadli6145
    @mfadli6145 6 лет назад +1

    Nice... 👍👍👍

  • @macdiddles7000
    @macdiddles7000 6 лет назад +1

    High Reving European v8’s are the shit

  • @O7ACON83
    @O7ACON83 6 лет назад +3

    Insane!

  • @adityaabirama
    @adityaabirama 4 года назад

    Weight to power ratio is insane

  • @jackpot6243
    @jackpot6243 3 года назад

    SCHEISS DIE WAND IS DAS EIN GEILES AUTO!!!!!!!!

  • @passioneslalom
    @passioneslalom 6 лет назад +2

    Awesome!

  • @AVE_LUCIFERUS_666
    @AVE_LUCIFERUS_666 6 лет назад +4

    Wonder how fast woud it be around the Ring? maybe under 7min.

    • @HillClimbMonsters
      @HillClimbMonsters  6 лет назад +10

      Well, well under 7 minutes..this thing is around 3 seconds faster than a GT3 car per Kilometer on a normal Hillclimb. Do the math now ;)

    • @argh1989
      @argh1989 6 лет назад +5

      I doubt it'd be that fast. A car that's quick around the Nordschleife isn't necessarily a good hillclimb racer - and vice versa. In the video we can see that it tops out at barely over 230 km/h. And while I'm sure they could change the final gear ratio to allow for higher vmax, the massive aero parts probably create too much drag. So the car would lose valuable time during fast sections like Schwedenkreuz or Bergwerk.

    • @donblub
      @donblub 6 лет назад

      and the roands in the video look very smooth, compared to the nordschleife, but still, even if it isn't 3sec per km, 2 sec per km it will be faster, with better suited gears and ride-hide of course

  • @hadzibabo1026
    @hadzibabo1026 6 лет назад +1

    Krank

  • @bikotheanimator6169
    @bikotheanimator6169 10 месяцев назад +1

    These track rally videos are excellent because people who say, "It's an automatic. I drive a manual so I'm a man," look silly. All of these hill climb drivers are using paddle shifters. Get over it.

  • @2fast4you25
    @2fast4you25 3 года назад

    How loooow can you gooo......
    YEAP RIGHT HERE low enough ??? 🥴🥴🥴🥴😳😳

  • @scadieee
    @scadieee 6 лет назад

    My hero

  • @robertvuitton
    @robertvuitton 6 лет назад +1

    I've never seen this engine used with an Mazda RX7. Is it even possible? I would've love to see that.

    • @chrissss696
      @chrissss696 5 лет назад

      Technically it is possible, but it would make no sense. Wankel engines are much lighter and smaller, a V8 would make the car heavier, not to mention it would ruin the perfect 50:50 balance it already has (i assumed you were talking about the FD)

    • @Thatdrii
      @Thatdrii 3 года назад +1

      @@chrissss696 bro,a judd v8 is lighter than a turbo 13b,let alone a 20b or a 26b,the only rotary that weighs less than a judd is the msp and the 12a na,and both dont even produce half the power of the judd

    • @chrissss696
      @chrissss696 3 года назад +1

      @@Thatdrii yeah mate just ignore what i was saying lol i didn't know shit 2 years ago

    • @piedra16kr7
      @piedra16kr7 2 года назад

      @@chrissss696 lmao

  • @phildouglas9086
    @phildouglas9086 6 лет назад +1

    Eh. This SLK might be able to place in the top 15 at Pikes Peak. Maybe even top 5 vs. electric cars.

  • @nawazwaseem2219
    @nawazwaseem2219 6 лет назад +1

    God damn, it's testicle Tuesday!!!

  • @1001lollo
    @1001lollo 4 года назад

    Geeeiilll !!!!

  • @lukedanielgalon1596
    @lukedanielgalon1596 4 года назад

    Never hear the onboard of this car for yrs i only got to see it outside.
    U thought f1 cars would spark change my mind.

  • @AdamAdamHDL
    @AdamAdamHDL 6 лет назад +5

    Few extra millimetres of clearances maybe... Scraping much?

    • @Wings_of_foam
      @Wings_of_foam 5 лет назад

      @@TheTazzietiger Yeah, this is not your average racecar. Insane how small changes on the body can have huge consequences to the car's performance. More speed, more air pressure to the car.

    • @Wings_of_foam
      @Wings_of_foam 5 лет назад

      Also, I'm pretty sure they are aware of the parts getting damaged and are ready to change them if needed after each race. Everything is organized and optimized ;)

    • @abdexa
      @abdexa 4 года назад

      That's feature not a bug.

  • @masonprophet6396
    @masonprophet6396 4 года назад

    Driver: This thing's too low man. It's scraping all over the place.
    Team: No way man, put a camera under there.
    *camera*

  • @danielalmeida5781
    @danielalmeida5781 6 лет назад

    Anda muitooooo ..

  • @기본충
    @기본충 6 лет назад +2

    F1 5g?

  • @ace-pv4hy
    @ace-pv4hy 3 года назад

    In memory of georg plasa 💯😔🤍

  • @lilkill5151
    @lilkill5151 3 года назад

    I wonder how much this thing costs to build

  • @iweoldtimer
    @iweoldtimer 6 лет назад +1

    Keto ni klu naik genting habih hacur bare bowoh..

  • @jaysonlee4394
    @jaysonlee4394 6 лет назад +4

    Hold my beer..

  • @radityaindera3442
    @radityaindera3442 6 лет назад

    How come these guys have so much money to put in a car

  • @nonyabusiness665
    @nonyabusiness665 6 лет назад

    I'm not an expert on this but shouldn't the car NOT scrape the road to prevent drag?

    • @djremotion2
      @djremotion2 6 лет назад

      No it helps immensely with the aerodynamics that it is so close. He would lose a ton of downforce if it was higher.

    • @nonyabusiness665
      @nonyabusiness665 6 лет назад

      But doesn't the drag generated by the surface scrapping also make it slower?

    • @Adam-og3sm
      @Adam-og3sm 6 лет назад

      they have put titanium block/strips under the car where it scrapes, titanium helps to minimize friction and also titanium makes a lot of sparks and it´s also really strong.

    • @nonyabusiness665
      @nonyabusiness665 6 лет назад

      That clears it up a bit more! thanks for the info!

  • @andrewjoeljackson4653
    @andrewjoeljackson4653 6 лет назад

    ok am i the only one who notices the lack of clutch pedal

    • @dylanmccallister1888
      @dylanmccallister1888 6 лет назад

      Andrew Joel Jackson sequential, also I think it is like the f1 seq it downshifts for you and you upshift. He is shifting with his right hand, I dont see it move on down shifts as much. He sometimes moves his foot to the far left when off the brake, maybe he still has one for modulating throttle or something.

  • @procioneintubato
    @procioneintubato 6 лет назад

    How slower is this monster than faggioli’s osella for example? Can’t be too far behind

    • @HillClimbMonsters
      @HillClimbMonsters  6 лет назад

      It is a bit slower of course, but it is getting close. About 2 to 3 seconds per Km ;)

    • @AVE_LUCIFERUS_666
      @AVE_LUCIFERUS_666 6 лет назад

      and what is the weight and power of that Osella?

  • @duza695
    @duza695 5 лет назад +1

    760kg? did u include the 30kg balls of the driver?

  • @tadman3d
    @tadman3d 6 лет назад +1

    Probly lost a few seconds just from scraping friction

    • @chrissss696
      @chrissss696 5 лет назад

      A few seconds? Not even a tenth. The lower the car is, the more downforce it generates. A car this low has insane downforce, raising it would make it slower

  • @jan_mohorko
    @jan_mohorko 4 года назад

    Hoch wie ein Bus

  • @blackjin21
    @blackjin21 6 лет назад +1

    i want to be that low and that fast

  • @michelebresciano5907
    @michelebresciano5907 3 года назад

    👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @juergenseidelmann
    @juergenseidelmann 4 года назад

    Er hats nicht drauf! Was hätte wohl Georg Plasa mit dem gemacht???

  • @Gottgum
    @Gottgum 6 лет назад +28

    This thing is amazing, but it is not a Mercedes Benz anymore...

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 6 лет назад +41

      like most of the racecars...

    • @drongojonkins8945
      @drongojonkins8945 6 лет назад +12

      Yeah, it doesnt have that stupid crackly exhaust that all the wanky new AMG's have for one thing lol.

    • @rod253
      @rod253 6 лет назад +2

      Why? Because you said so?

    • @a.c9993
      @a.c9993 6 лет назад

      f1

    • @eDD77s
      @eDD77s 6 лет назад +1

      rodney abbey because the chassis is only left from MB, engine(!), gearbox, diff, suspension, brakes, fueltank etc. isn't MB anymore...

  • @jeffreyt4709
    @jeffreyt4709 6 лет назад +1

    Holly F

  • @Galaxy2Free
    @Galaxy2Free 6 лет назад +1

    He is pulling 3.0 lateral g's at 03:19....like a formula car.

  • @KimsonJohn
    @KimsonJohn 6 лет назад +1

    Some people's morals are lower..

  • @ClaireNewmann
    @ClaireNewmann 5 лет назад

    Que de la ball

  • @kopronko
    @kopronko 6 лет назад +1

    No Turbo - No Funnn !!! ! !!!

    • @chrissss696
      @chrissss696 5 лет назад

      It already has 900 hp, a turbo would make it impossible to drive

    • @Thatdrii
      @Thatdrii 3 года назад

      @@chrissss696 barely has 600 to the wheels bro...

    • @chrissss696
      @chrissss696 3 года назад

      @@Thatdrii now I'm wondering where the hell i got that number from lol

  • @Adin21st
    @Adin21st 4 года назад

    Now i understand why the european roads are so curvy 😂

  • @ForzaWiz11
    @ForzaWiz11 6 лет назад +3

    You gotta raise it a few cm... or stiffen the damping, something

    • @ThoR52
      @ThoR52 6 лет назад +23

      They beat the class record, so they must know a thing or two about suspension and ground clearance, wouldn't you say ?

    • @drunkenmessiah
      @drunkenmessiah 6 лет назад +8

      +1 The closer the lower aero surfaces are to the ground, the better they work. Front splitter and rear diffuser would be drastically less effective if they were even just a couple centimeters higher up off the ground. I'd say those crazy-ass numbers on the G-meter are evidence it is all working extremely well.

    • @koettfaers
      @koettfaers 6 лет назад +4

      Guys guys he plays forza. He knows his shit.
      This is the new era, you see people watching weapons channels on YT talking about guns they used in cod and bf. And people who plays forza and think they know anything about driving and cars.
      Age isnt an excuse, i knew when i didnt knew shit about something as early as 7 years of age or something. They are all retards, no matter if they are 10 or 18+ asshats

    • @BarefeetB
      @BarefeetB 6 лет назад

      Idiot 😂😂😂

    • @chrissss696
      @chrissss696 5 лет назад

      "A few cm" dude in this car 5 mm is a huge change... 30 mm would be like turning it into a monster truck

  • @mechanicandi1064
    @mechanicandi1064 6 лет назад +2

    Crazy downforce 🙄

    • @ryanosbourne9945
      @ryanosbourne9945 4 года назад

      I've heard David Coulthard say that DTM cars can create almost as much cornering G as an F1 relative to its size! Massive downforce!

  • @fabienpiquet_BeFa
    @fabienpiquet_BeFa 6 лет назад +1

    😱😱 💣 😱😱👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Wildboy0001
    @Wildboy0001 9 месяцев назад +1

    Vegan?

  • @sipposbft
    @sipposbft 6 лет назад

    big dollar engine..basically two Honda motorcycle engines joined together by a custom crank case ..

    • @hillclimbracingfan5821
      @hillclimbracingfan5821 6 лет назад +1

      +sipposbft Nope.Judd V8 engine.

    • @sipposbft
      @sipposbft 6 лет назад

      hillclimbracingfan ... yes I know it’s a Judd V8... just like powertech V8s are based on the Hyabusa engine ... the Judd is manufactured using Honda (think CBR) parts

    • @hillclimbracingfan5821
      @hillclimbracingfan5821 6 лет назад +2

      +sipposbft They are,but Judd unit in Meisel's SLK is based on their DB engine design that replaced XV675 unit,which is made for endurance racing.Those are not made from Honda parts.Judd cooperated with Honda and Yamaha as well,but mostly make their own engines.This particular engine is not based on the design you mentioned.

    • @sipposbft
      @sipposbft 6 лет назад

      hillclimbracingfan ... ok so this is totally designed in house... even bigger dollars 👍

    • @hillclimbracingfan5821
      @hillclimbracingfan5821 6 лет назад

      +sipposbft I think brand new Judd V8 is priced at 70000-80000 dollars.

  • @spike4850
    @spike4850 6 лет назад

    There is no way that thing weighs 760 kg

    • @hillclimbracingfan5821
      @hillclimbracingfan5821 6 лет назад

      +An Audi RS6 It's completely made from carbon fiber and is using spaceframe chasis.

    • @spike4850
      @spike4850 6 лет назад +1

      hillclimbracingfan cool

    • @adams91olaf
      @adams91olaf 6 лет назад

      the minimum weight in e2 sh between 3000 cc and 4000cc is 780 kg

    • @spike4850
      @spike4850 6 лет назад

      adams91olaf ?? So this is underweight??

    • @adams91olaf
      @adams91olaf 6 лет назад +1

      if it were underweight it would not pass the checks.
      I think there is an error in the description, in many other videos the weight is 780 kg minimum regulation

  • @veitmauser5380
    @veitmauser5380 4 года назад

    📽️😍👌

  • @VitL-fg3sk
    @VitL-fg3sk 6 лет назад +3

    Aviao

  • @kaddymorgan1625
    @kaddymorgan1625 5 лет назад

    love that car. I woul like to have one her in Panama to kill an Audi on track

  • @donblub
    @donblub 6 лет назад

    cars like this are still called Touring Cars? yeah, prototype with the headlights from the street car.
    but still a nice car.

  • @bennydejung
    @bennydejung 6 лет назад

    Flugzeug auf Rädern

  • @amiigaf4476
    @amiigaf4476 6 лет назад

    "the fastest" *looks at peugeot 208 t16 pikes peak*

    • @argh1989
      @argh1989 6 лет назад

      Check out the description...

    • @eDD77s
      @eDD77s 6 лет назад +1

      Tim Leppin yes, but hillclimb is more than just pikes peak ;)

    • @hillclimbracingfan5821
      @hillclimbracingfan5821 6 лет назад

      +Tim Leppin A race held once a year can't be taken as measurement for whole hillclimb racing.Doesn't make sense and it's not fair at all.