Paul Baloche- Choosing a drummer
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
- Paul Baloche explains what to look for when choosing a drummer for your worship team. Paul's "Modern Worship Series" DVD's contain practical instruction for worship leaders and teams and are available at leadworship.com
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I was blessed to meet you last year. As a drummer for a Praise Team, you are absolutely right about all suggestions. I can't help to throw a bit of Neil Peart or Mike Portnoy into the mix, but where the rubber hits the road, the basic and steady thump is universal. Thank you so much for providing these resources!
I'm a drummer in HK, and play with worship term everyweek, your message is very useful...thanks..blessings
this was really good i use a drum machine to practice with and now have started using it for the band and we can see a big differance in our playing in time. if you work as a team and pull togeather god can really use you as a drummer i am teaching people in our church to play and we use the machine all the time to get the time into them. in the last 6 months I have really noticed that the band is tighter and the worship leader trusts me alot more to keep the band in tight formation. its great
Thanks a lot Paul for this video! God Bless!
As a drummer on a worship team I wholheartedly agree with this video. If we are to present our best to God we need to strive for that. This means practice, lessons (tons of free stuff on RUclips), and working with a click. I even use a metro during Sunday worship. Use whatever resources you have for the kindom and if you need more, God will provide. Remain faithful and teachable and God will guide your worsip.
Paul nailed it! No drummer is better than an o.k. drummer. The drums are the building blocks of the entire band and if the drummer isn't on a click track, forget it. Also, keep it simple and keep good time
praise God for drummers who play with feel and play in solid time!! If we realise as worship musicians that we are there to 1) personally worship, and 2) inspire and facilitate corporate praise and worship, we'll then appreciate musicians who make it easier to worship, rather than more difficult
Thank you so much!
love it.
Great and practical tips. Thanks Paul.
Great points by Paul. As an experienced working drummer, I see lots of younger guys working on their chops, when they really need to spend time in the woodshed working on their groove. Chops are cool, but the groove is what it's really all about. Fitting the music, being transparent, and laying down the tempo. And having really big ears!
As a life-long drummer and now keyboardist, I completely agree that having NO drummer is better than having a bad drummer. Great point.
When it comes to worship, inferior musicianship shouldn't be a badge of honor. King David chose master musicians for his tabernacle for a reason.
Musicianship allows you the freedom to play from the heart.
I'm a drummer on a worship team. What Paul is talking about is not "judging" anyone in that way. If you want to build a strong worship team, he's saying you need to be choosy and don't settle for a musician that isn't as talented as you'd like. It's about striving for perfection (of course never achieving it) when praising God. To have a good worship team, having a drummer that can keep a steady pulse is one of the most important things.
I agree paul. A common thing I hear is a drummer who can keep time until a fill then there is a tendancy to rush through the fill and loose that sense of time. Working with a metronome really helps that. Or even better if they have been involved in a drum corp or marching band because those are EXCELLENT ways to train that sense of time.
Great man!!! God bless...
This is so true. Iv been playing for about 4 or 5 years and for a while u think that drumming is all about those sweet solos but it often happens where people are in the middle of a solo and they get so pumped that they start to speed up and then once they bring a chorus in or another verse they are going way too fast and the song just doesn't sound as clean and wholesome as it did before the solo.
hmm i just started doing drums about a year ago for my church and, well i wasn't necessarily thrown into it, but i had no idea what a worship drummer is or does. heck im not even a drummer, im a guitar player, but this really does open the doors to what i do. just remembering playing drums today for church...well, theres really no other drummers in our church. i wish there was to tell me what im doing is right or intrusive or distracting. but this vid will keep me in thought of that. thanks (:
You have the BEST drummer ever!!! CARL ALBRECHT :)
I agree with Paul. Drummer doesn't have to be perfect has to have the right skill to play with others. Last year I was part of a worship team as a guitarist. The leader recruited someone to play the drums. And the song set he chose were fun, loud, rocky, and intense set. For example one was Deep Cries Out. And as we started the practice with the song, everything felt off. Because the drummer was off. And I went out to eat with the leader and found out that the guy had no experience and I
goldensleeves, I agree with you completely, it's a double-edged sword. Either sound really great because you chose the best players you could, or not sounds as great because you didn't "audition". I'm glad I'm not a worship leader and only a player, so I really don't have to judge and make the tough decisions. :)
So true...
@m2redshirt very nice retort.
Primarily a guitarist, I pray I might continue learning to serve Plainfield Christian Church as drummer more effectively with times' passing, always with Jesus in my heart as metronome.
Very intelligent words from a wise man
Good advice and interesting as a drummer to hear about the role of drummer and the influence on a congregation.
Paul! I was wondering if you had any tips or advice for choosing a "percussionist" (congas, bongos, timbales, small perc, effects, etc)? I am from Puerto Rico and most of the music downhere has the latin music influence...I was very blessed to find all these instructional visuals of how to work with the music ministry. I would like to hear what you have to say about my question...God bless!
@m2redshirt I totally agree with everything you said here bro! God Bless!
Here are the traits of a GOOD drummer.
1. Never drowns the entire band
2. Plays with flair rather than strength
3. Knows various musical styles and apply the appropriate style to the song
4. Knows how to play a certain given tempo
5. Knows when to soften and when to be loud
6. Knows how to sync with the bass player
7. knows when to accent.
tat was more than choosing and havin a drummer
@mikeadiddle What i am saying is that not all instruments needed to be played throughout a song. There are certain parts where a particularly instruments should be silent in order not to ruin the music.
this is to true
NO, he said " I'd rather have no drummer than a bad drummer. And, you don't have to play to a click track if you're timming is good. I have been playing professionally for 45 yrs. and rarely play to a click. Also, we don't "keep it simple" in my church. We have over 4,000 people worshipping and it's pretty passionate and intense extravagant Worship. In a small church, I would say, Keep it Simple!
@denim98
I read a great quote once..
"Notes are a great way to get between times of silence."
or something to that effect.
@denim98
I'm not sure to what you are replying. I was pointing out those traits you listed are in no way exclusive to drummers, but traits of any good musician, regardless of his instrument.
"1. Never drowns the entire band
2. Plays with flair rather than strength
3. Knows various musical styles and apply the appropriate style to the song
4. Knows how to play a certain given tempo
5. Knows when to soften and when to be loud
6. Knows how to sync with the bass player
7. knows when to accent."
@cinger7 The reason of distraction is that most drummers are unable to control their volume. This is the hardest skill to master - dynamics. Some play the drums in a small room as if they are playing in a huge stadium , thus drowning the whole band. Furthermore an acoustic drum cannot be volume-controlled.
@richardshere Nice. I want a shirt that says "I am the click track" with a large picture of a drum set beneath.
beat box!!!
@ralphusbaritonusrex
Good post...............I own a Tama watch and its ok to get "Linear Timedown "in a Practice/studio setting. But I am curious how it helps in live situatons? I never use those time keepers in live gigs, to me it makes the music too ridged.Plus no one else in the group can stay in that micro % of time sequence. Maybe Devo...........lol.
Oh well to each his own.
Peace..
I just learned drum a few months ago still a beginner for my church..damn I feel I'm not fit to be a worship drummer
I feel the same way about piano players, who bang the keys to hard, and for the singers who cant sing.
i would do the same..
Well said. I'd also like to add that in my experience as a worship drummer it is important to have other musicians with a good sense of timing as well or the drummer will always be fighting against bad time keepers playing other instruments which makes it even harder for him/her. The band keeps the time not just the drummer.
Spanish subtitles please!!!
Edwing David Romero Rodriguez if you can request subtitles then I’m sure you can understand what he is saying.
OK, well think of things this way; what would you like Paul to say? "It really doesn't matter if you get a drummer who can't hold a tempo worth a flip, as long as the heart is in the right place, the music is not only second place, but it just really doesn't even matter at all", so take the first person that comes to you and just has a good heart and wants to worship God? I don't feel there's anything wrong with striving for greatness when building a band, ESPECIALLY one praising God.
Some folks say that real worship should not include drums at all because drums are not biblical and distract from true worship. Luckily, most of them are unable to access the Internet.
And yes, an acoustic drum set can be volume controlled and is the hardest part of it. Dynamics played with very well volume controlled. That takes a lot of practice and hard work. And I always recommend to any drummer to have an electronic drum set. There are some places like restaurants and small places that is better with an electric kit. Wide open places go with the acoustic.
@m2redshirt While I do agree with you somewhat, (because in order to draw people in and have them participate, we do need to have orderly sounding music) frankly, I think there's a nice thick line between order in MUSIC and order in WORSHIP. Do you really think God would be less pleased with a mediocre drummer who has a fiery passion for Christ than He would be with a luke-warm drummer with incredible skills?
4:34 lol "if your drummer is playing with a Time Machine"... Bring out the DeLorean
Haha awesome advice, Paul
(continuing on) and I told the leader its better if we recruit a new drummer. I didn't tell him this but in my heart I was saying, "they were in such hurry to get a drummer, they have put a button in a wrong whole." So we did get a new drummer, a drummer I knew for a longtime. And everything ekse went well. And we didnt kick the other guy out, we asked him if he can play anything else and he said hes been playing the guitar 4 a long time. And it was true as he stepped in as a 2nd guitarist.
The 6 dislikes come from drummers who think "the pocket" is where they keep their iPhone.
This is why drummers need to work on a click track and always play with it live. At first it's rough, but once you get the hang of it, you wonder how you lived without it.
Also, keep it simple. As a drummer for 13 years, I cannot over-emphasize the importance of staying in the pocket. Of course, everyone loves a cool fill, but in worship, keeping it low key and in time is the way to go. If you need any help, let me know what I can do.
I respectfully disagree. Playing along to music is more impoftant.
drums is a rhythm/percussion instrument...if the drummer can't keep time what use are they ;)
I play drums and love god and this is awesome..now im going to go to bed and sleep with the metronome under my pillow..sweet.
Ouch! This video puts me to shame as a musician!! I don’t always use the metronome!! From now on I will and most certainly my consistency will improve!! Great vid!!
We only have one drummer, but if he's not available on a Sunday, they still want to fill in that position and putting a person that doesn't have skill or basic knowledge of playing drums... Just hitting randomly..
@thenonprodigal
Having no pianist is better than having a bad pianist.
Having no bassist is better than having a bad bassist.
Having no guitarist is better than having a bad guitarist.
Having no accordionists is better.
mikeadiddle 😂😂
But one thing we all agree we could use...more cowbell 😉
@denim98
Those are all signs of ANY good musician.
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I think the Counting Crows would disagree haha!
Goldensleeves. The Bible says that worship should be orderly: "all things should be done decently and in order." (1 Cor 14:40). Apostle Paul had no trouble judging the disorderly Corinthians. A drummer who cannot keep a beat contributes to disorder. The "judge not" passage in the Bible does not prohibit judgment. Read it in context. The passage condemns HYPOCRITICAL judgment (Matt 7:1-5). Paul Baloche is not passing hypocritical judgment. He cares about orderliness in worship.
Most church drummers drown the rest of the band coz they think they are playing in a huge stadium instead of a small church hall.
@TimbaCristiana remember the percussionist COMPLIMENTS the drums. Lots of amateur percussionists tries to play the drums and make the rhythm sounds awful.
Thats bad theology. Practice and learn to present to the lord your best. God will do the rest. Like Paul said is so true. When the drums is not right it becomes a distraction and takes away from the worship.