@M What the hell is that comment about? This is a video on basketball. Nobody mentioned soccer. I have no idea what we be the most popular sport in 2070 and don't care.
@USAFO6 yes more opportunities to get rebounds=naturally higher rebounding totals due to a different natured game. When people are doing direct player comparisons they're going to call those stats "inflated" because they are for that purpose. Dont be pedantic
Pete Maravich, Oscar Robertson,Jerry West & Bob Cousy etc actually played by the Legit rules of basketball. For all of Pete Maravich's showmanship.....never saw him travel or carry the basketball.
and Willis is just a pleasure to watch!! a capable big man who could run had an outside shot, could postup and play great defense, he was cut short by injuries!
Love Bobby Dandridge's game. Solid mid range shot, good defender, constantly running and getting open. One of the most underrated stars in his and any era. He brought the Bullets their only title in 79'.
Today's fans don't understand why Robertson was so great, but watch the sequence beginning around 45:20. He gets the rebound, runs the fast break and makes a perfect pass. There's no flash at all...just perfect fundamental basketball.
I have a young man whom I mentor who I encourage to watch clips or games from the 1960s and 1970s that feature Oscar Robertson. He was undoubtedly a very fundamentally sound player. Watching him is like watching a basketball training video, but in real game situations.
This was always the photo of Oscar Robertson that mesmerized me when I would see it in books imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-s3.si.com%2Fs3fs-public%2Fimages%2F1959-Oscar-Robertson-017075457.jpg&w=1000&q=70
@@RatedRex1 you mean they were not allowed to palm the ball travel and double dribble like today.. and they got pushed while shooting unlike today when you breathe on a guy and a foul is called
@@bjmartin2437 Pistol Pete Maravich and Earl the Pearl Monroe were my favorites because they were such magnificent ball handlers, I enjoyed Wilt Chamberlain, Walt Frazier, Super Lou Hudson, Artis Gilmore, Bob McAdoo, etc,...
This series was my first memory of liking and watching basketball....through the years my recollection of it was Jabbar's skyhook and Walt Frazier's play. I also like how they didn't feel the need to stuff the ball all the time
Impossible to compare, because of the way the game is officiated now as opposed to then. Back then no wrestling allowed inside. Very little contact allowed off the ball. No moving screens. You lower your shoulder and drive to the basket, and it's an offensive foul. No palming the ball. No 3-4 steps allowed. No changing pivot feet and getting away with it. So the style of play is completely different as a result. And this also explains why the old school guys look a little more awkward and less athletic. Because the rules hampered them. They actually had to be a lot more careful to stay within the rules, and this made them look a little less smooth than the guys from today. But they were a lot more skilled than most give them credit for. As for style of play, there is no contest. The NBA might be more "popular" now, but that has nothing to do with the level or style of play being any better. It has more to do with better marketing---and especially better marketing of superstars---and making a deliberate appeal to the masses rather than the true die hard fans, and the antics of today's showboat players. The antics border on professional wrestling. And say what you want about it, but that kind of stuff sells. Especially with regard to the casual and less informed fan. But if the guys from the past played guys from now----with the old rules and old style officiating in place---the guys from today not only would lose, but they would find it impossible to compete. Because the way they play would result in massive numbers of violations and fouls. Would have nothing to do with how good or bad they are or what kind of brand of ball they played. They would simply be unable to play within the rules. That being said, if the game were officiated the modern way, then the old-timers would have trouble competing as well. So I don't know how it is possible to settle this thing.
Pedigree of talent is your tiebreaker. In the first year in 1976 of the ABA MERGER after the previous season teams went from 28 to 25 down to that merger season=22, look at how deep those rosters were. You had former all pros as starters put on the bench because the young ABA stars bumped them there, and every team was ten to 12 deep. Today, you check the pedigrees. Teams are 7 or 8 deep in experienced quality with two or three All Stars on two or three teams, if that. Those guys then played 2-3 years of college against prospects that were seniors and jrs., and on freshman teams to learn the game. The athleticism..yeah today they are better, but the basketball, naaaah..not even close.
Noah Springer real basketball nobody running right to the 3 point line & fundamentals. The 3 can be exciting but I can take it or leave it. Better during the ABA days
@@leroypinckney1803 absolutely. It seems like the ABA didn't overdo it, though, two things to consider. One, shooting today is better, but two, the line's been brought in.
R H Jackknife Jumpers from Lucius Allen, Rainbows from Jonny Mac. Lew in the toaster kicks it out to The Electric Eye, Flynn Robinson. I was once there, too, my friend but I got old.
@@rafikz77 the refs in those days really earned their money, not like today where they have to go to the court side camera or call the NYC Center Command for Rules and Regulations. The last two minutes can last thirty minutes, smdh.
Bob Dandridge was one hell of a player. IMO his hall of fame induction should have come much sooner. He was so damn fast. He had a great jump shot and could drive to the basket and finish well. He also could pass well, and played great defense. And, from everything I've read about him, he was a great teammate. He was one of my favorite players from the 70s.
Love these old broadcasts, they have great sound and a raw look to them. Big fan of those early 70s Knick teams, just a beautiful team to watch and Frazier is in my Top5 Favorite NBA players. Just a smooth player.
God,it is so enjoyable to watch these teams play a motion offense and not just isolate the floor and kicking it out for 3. Damn Hubie Brown and Bernard King.
Funny you mention Hubie Brown. He was an assistant coach with the Bucks before heading the Knicks. Don't blame Hubie for getting rid of the motion offense. The Knicks needed a change in style by the early 1980s after having been a pretty moribund team for several years. Bernard King was great in his time, as was the motion offense that Red Holzman developed for the Knick championship teams. However, that style didn't work as the league evolved. Holzman and the Knicks were caught up in a culture change.
The style the knicks used with holzman is similar to what spain and puerto rico did in the olympics that year they beat the nba team with james,iverson and company on it.Obviously those forign teams were not as talented as the championship knick teamsof the 70s but they beat nba allstars that year anyway because good ball movement and a well run motion offense will beat a bunch of guys who are more athletic but just standing around.
Yep, and Fratello fell into that trap with Nique and the Hawks too. But those teams were never a match for the Celtics, Sixers, Bucks and Lakers -- and Detroit later on in the '80s -- all teams that played very unselfishly and had multiple stars. Philly probably stood around the most of those five.
This video takes me back to my childhood! Growing up in Milwaukee, I remember this Bucks team so well, and undoubtedly watched this game when it aired. Indeed one of the all-time great teams, and Alcindor was a BEAST! The Big O was maybe a year or so removed from his prime, but it was his acquisition that gave this Bucks team their lone championship later in the year. And "Johnny Mac" as he used to be called, was a pure shooter who would've been a deadly 3-point shooter. Boy, how different the NBA was then!
Remember. When the ABA started in 1967, they included the 3 point line until the league folded at the end of the 1976 season. And it was put in play in the NBA in the 1979-80 season. And the rest is history.
One dimensional, death of the mid-range jumper history..the three pointer should be the most difficult shot based on the defensive front as an obstacle to stop it and the offense's teamwork to play "chess" and pass and get in position to shoot through the defensive difficulty, not distance.
@@robertsprouse9282 everybody chucking up threes, guards getting double digit rebounds, stretch four, stretch five, the three point shot was/is a double edged sword. They don't even have to play b-ball anymore, just chuck up threes, the game now is like playing Around The World where you just chuck up threes.
I appreciate the history that you're distilling. I hope those who are reading your comments appreciate it as well. You're right about Barnett and Oscar. They played against each other in the Indiana high school championship. Oscar's team won.
i had to chuckle when keith jackson talked about what a big deal in terms of prize money the championship team would earn that year: $16,000 per man! with today's 40 million per year contracts, the best paid players probably make about $16,000 every minute of every game the team plays. to someone like lebron james, $16,000 is chump change!
Today's players may be more athletic, but not smarter! I miss this type of basketball: fierce competition, teamwork, defense, fundamentally sound basketball!
Look at the defending, perimeter and post. See the ball, see your man. No show boating, no pointless dunks. The pace was high temp and end to end. And everyone could shoot, from 5 to 1. I watch this video, and I realize that the league might have lost something over the years.
The showboating "pointless" Dunkers did exist back then. David Thompson, Larry Kennon, Joe Caldwell, and Doctor J for example. Even George Gervin was a flashy dunker when he was in his absolute prime.
No Showboating dunks because there weren't a lot of guys who could showboat in those days. These teams would be slaughtered in today's game. The pace was faster in those days, but the game is faster now. Imagine Oscar trying to guard Westbrook, Kyrie, Rose or Curry. I'm 58 years old. I grew up watching these players, but I'm not one of those guys who refuse to admit that the game has evolved.
For all you basketball challenged people when players are compelled to play the game BY THE RULES its much more difficult. No palming the ball, no changing pivot feet, no jump steps (BTW if Wilt was allowed to jump step he may have averaged 80 ppg), no moving screens (the ball handler is suppose to control the defenders and run them into the pick), no running with the ball before a driving shot.
Thank you for this upload. It brings back great memories of the NBA Game of the Week on ABC Sports. Love the fact that the original commercials were added, as well. Thanks, again. May Keith Jackson RIP.
Willis Reed proved in this game and many others throughout his stellar career that you don't necessarily have to be a 7-footer with long limbs in order to play the center position effectively. Long as you got an outside jumper as your main offensive counter, solid footwork in the post, a strong commitment to defending the paint, and are physically able to outwork your opponent on the boards more often than not, then you qualify regardless. Too bad Elton Brand and Carlos Boozer weren't used at C more often during their careers because they both remind me of Reed at times (though Willis had WAY MORE heart and drive than those two by comparison-lol). Jon McGlocklin of the Bucks also impressed me in this game. His outside shooting would've made him an even more potent offensive player in the ABA at that time (where they were already using the 3-point line). Btw, I wonder if anybody at that game EVER thought Phil Jackson of the Knicks would come back to completely take charge of the day-to-day basketball operations of that franchise today... ;-D
Bob McAdoo, Elvin Hayes, Dave Cowens, and Willis Reed all had outstanding jumpers! Reed was strong as a bull, the announcer during a game noticed how Reed could keep Wilt outside! That is how strong Reed was.
Well when phil jckson was with the knicks people knew he was an intelligent well read zen practicioner who was thinking about getting into politics like bill bradley did.These are bright guys.And he jackson, was a smart effective role player with limited skills.But no one knew he would become this legendary coach at this level?
Yep but it's interesting that the 90s Knicks are remembered more fondly than the early 70s Knicks. Definitely one of the most underrated championship teams in the history of the game.
@@blueblur2329 the 69-70 team is the greatest Knicks team of all time they had the mvp Willis Reed the best point guard in the nba Walt Frazier an all star forward Dave Debusschere 2 of the best outside shooters Bill Bradley and Dick Barnett and on the bench they had guys like Cazzie Russell Dave Stallworth Nate Bowman and Mike Riordan
Two amazing teams playing at the top of their game with HOFers all over the place. It's amazing to watch and listen to a full game instead of highlights. I'm old enough to remember well when the score wasn't always on the screen and you'd have to wait or ask someone watching if you missed part of the game.
I watch alot of older games and the thing that always stand out to me is the pace. players are obviously more athletic but they don't play faster than teams played back then. it was a far more free flowing game, players allowed to play on instinct and push the ball to get easy baskets yet were smart and skilled enough to keep turnovers very low. unlike in today's game coaches didn't over coach.
I know this is an old comment (hell, it’s an old ass game as far as that goes), but I have to comment on one thing: I actually don’t buy that athletes are so much better now. Players back then had poorer shoes than we do now, which limited cutting; they had stricter rules on their dribbling, which limited flashy dribbling and blow bys; at least some players here played college ball at a time when dunking was banned, and therefore wouldn’t have placed much emphasis on flashy dunks during their formative years, unlike now; the three point line wasn’t invented yet, which means spacing is worse, preventing players from getting downhill as easily as players do today. There are too many era specific differences here for me to feel comfortable making blanket statements about the level of athleticism between eras.
@@bobthabuilda1525 Touche'! Today's pampered celebrities would not last 10 minutes in those crappy converse rubber sneakers (with no ankle support). "Sports medicine" had not yet been invented, physical therapy was in the stone age and "artificial enhancements" - courtesy of modern medicine - did not exist. In short, today’s coddled athletes/ entertainers were neither as rugged nor as resilient as yesteryear’s athletes.
Thanks for putting this up. This is the first time I've seen Willis Reed play a full game with no injury. And he does great against Lew Alcindor/Jabbar no less. I think Bob Dandridge was even better with the Washington Bullets years later. Now I always read that Oscar Robertson unlike Jerry West wasn't that good a defender and didn't like the fasbtreak offense, but I see him playing solid defense here and running the fastbreak at times. A really great fundamental player. Keith Jackson was such a versatile sportscaster too, with such a nice voice. Oh, when did they start calling Jabbar's hookshots as "skyhooks"?
Great passing, great shooting, great team play. Today's game may be more athletic, faster and acrobatic, but games from the 70's are real basketball games, not the mix of Cirque Du Soleil, WWE and any TV talent show that we get served today.
The players today are technically better . Better shooters,players can shoot with Left and Right,Better dribblers,Better passers,ect.....There's no argument to be made in those facets of the game. Anybody who tells you otherwise is an idiot who doesn't play the game. That's like saying Sir Bobby Charlton is as good as Messi or Ronaldo.
@@tynitty516 better shooters from farther out because it's practiced more... Not better passers... It's easy to be a better ball handler today because palming double dribble and traveling are not called anymore... And many of the older guys could shoot with both hands
Watched 3 minutes of Highlights from Denver vs Heat from game 5. If they had to follow the actual posted rules between carrying, walking, traveling and changing the pivot foot, there were at least 14 violations in three minutes of highlights. Today players have it good and would have their "game" seriously restricted if rules were by the book. Three steps even running in a straight line coming up the court simply isn't called today. Carrying isn't ever called, even changing the pivot foot is allowed virtually every time. Like I said it's great to be a modern day player. They would be crying if they had to follow the same rules these guys did.
Kareem had just an amazing career. He competed in two COMPLETELY different Era's. One that featured Wilt, Jerry, Clyde, Hondo, Rick Barry, and Oscar. And then one more time with Magic, Julius, Larry, Isiah, Jordan, and Hawkeem. Crazy..
I'll even go further. He came in early enough to play some against Elgin Baylor(who retired in 71.) And stayed late enough to play some against Reggie Miller and Scottie Pippen. He missed Bill Russell by a half a year on one end, and David Robinson by a half a year on the other end.
The old Milwaukee Arena, located at 4th and Kilbourn. This is where Al McGuire coached his Marquette Warriors for over a decade. And Eddie Doucette was calling Bucks games on "the Milwaukee Bucks radio network". Damn, I'm in 6th grade again. Thank you Hal15Greer!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucius Allen (Bucks backup Guard) was injured late in the 1973-1974 season and was out for the playoffs. Without Allen, aging Oscar Robertson had to play more minutes in the Celtics series and he wasn't up to the task. The Bucks had the league's best record that season, but without Lucius Allen the Bucks were at less than full strength and that's why they didn't win the Finals in 1974.
So nice not seeing James Harden/ Devin Booker type antics here of jumping into the defender and getting bailed out by the refs. Much purer game back then.
Fun fact: The world champion Knicks of the early 70's took a page from college basketball and outlawed dunking from their players. Many Knick greats believed the rule gave them better team discipline and unity. When asked if he ever thought about breaking the rule, Knick captain Bill Bradley replied, "I almost broke the rule in practice once".
No doubt. Abdul-Jabbar, Reed, Frazier and Oscar all got their due, rightfully. Some very underrated stars in DeBusschere and Dandridge. Bobby D. with one the best (at that point in his career) rebounders on his team, still averaged bet. 6-8 rebs per game in addition to his consistent 20 pts per nts and solid defense. All Dandridge did was help his teams win at Mil and Wash. Overlooked in Wash too, cause of Hayes and Unseld to some degree.
This was the day after Thanksgiving, 1970. That explains the network disclaimer slide at the start. Don't know if there was much college football offered at this juncture, such as you see these days. A great team of shooters and passers, that's how the Knicks impressed me as a 10-year old just getting into the game.
Dpal93 One of the best overall guards period. He and West really played both guard positions. Even Frazier, Maravich and Bing did too, to a large extent.
I started watching basketball in the late '70s, when Kareem/Lew had already started to slow his game down. This video was really cool to see him at a young age with a lot of energy and some pretty good footwork in the post! I don't remember hearing about McGlocklin, but he looked like a terrific shooter. Thanks for uploading this video!
Big10 Gentleman Jonny was a great outside shooter and did it for years for the old Cincinnati Royals before coming to the Bucks. He's been a Bucks broadcaster for many years and has his number retired by the Bucks.
Knick fans are to men's pro basketball what the Cubs are to American baseball. We are consistently hopeful that a bad product will get better, despite all evidence to the contrary!
Keith Jackson was a Legend. He also did Monday Night Baseball, College Football, and Boxing, Amateur, and Professional for ABC for decades.Chris Shenkel was not far behind!
@@robertsprouse9282 yes he was.I thought Jackson was so underrated. He had more longevity too...Especially doing the College ranks.Shenkel was rhe laid back type and a very respectful person.
Willis so much better than Ewing. He averaged 27 points a game against Lew and shot over 53%. Ewing facing an old Jabbar shot 41% and averaged 17 points and Jabbar averaged over 20 points in 29 minutes shooting almost 60%. Remember that Jabbar was 38 to 42 years of age against Ewing and yet dominated Ewing. Willis on one good leg against Chamberlain in the 1973 finals scored 61 points in the last three games leading the Knicks to another NBA title and he only played 30 minutes because of his bad knee. Pat Ewing was so overrated.
Reed also had a MUCH better supporting cast. Playing the 1970 team you had to deal with Frazier for one, a much better playmaker than anyone Ewing played with. It's very easy to take a look at the Knicks records by season. Before Ewing they were terrible, with Ewing they won every year...and after Ewing they've been terrible. There's no better illustration of his value to the franchise.
To be fair, Ewing was drafted as a defensive specialist. He had a very Limited offensive game early on. He surpassed his offensive expectations and became the best perimeter shooting center of all time.
Bucks were 17-1 coming into this game, which took place on Nov 27, 1970. Willis essentially played Alcindor to a draw. Willis with 34 points (15-27 from the floor) and 10 rebounds, and Alcindor with 33 points (14-25) and 26 rebounds. The following night, these same two teams played again and this time the game was even closer with the Knicks winning 100-99. In that game, both centers shot poorly. Jabbar (12-28) for 35 points and Willis (5-20) for 18. The Knicks were 4-1 against the Bucks this season, and the Bucks only lost a total of 16 games. These two teams seemed destined to meet in the Finals, but Baltimore got in the way.
@@MORE1500 You're right; it was a typo. I took the opportunity to check Alcindor/KAJ's stats for the year to see how many times he shot under 50% from the field during the 70-71 regular season. It was only 19 times. The centers who seemed to have the most success against Kareem in terms of keeping his FG% down were: Elvin Hayes (San Diego Rockets, who "held" Jabbar to games of 20,25,25,25,22), Reed (who held KAJ to 11-32 shooting night in a game on 1-26-71), Wilt, of course (who held KAJ to games of 13-32, 13-30 and a season worst 7-21 on 3-3-71), Thurmond, again of course (Warriors, who held him to 12-30 on 2-20-71). Other than those great centers, KAJ really dominated the rest of the league. Overall he shot 58% while ave 31.7ppg. People who didn't see him play may not know just how dominant he was in his early years with the Bucks.
@@MORE1500 If you look at the top centers today (Jokic, Embiid), they have the ability to shoot from the outside, and drive to the basket starting from the three point line. These weren't Kareem's strengths. I have no doubt that if the three point line existed in the early part of Kareem's career, he would have conquered the ability to hit threes. After all, he had a nice touch from the free throw line. But, given the era he grew up in, there was absolutely no reason for him to shoot from the outside. Not when you can average over 56% from the two-point range. So he didn't need to develop the three point shooting skill. If you could transport a 1970 KAJ to today's NBA, it would be very interesting. He would still have a high ppg average and shoot over 55% from inside. Would he get the ball as much though, given how teams have fallen in love with the three. One thing for sure... KAJ probably wouldn't get double-teamed as much as he did in the 1970s. If he did, he would kick it out (he was a good passer) to a teammate standing wide open beyond the arc.
I still can't believe the Knicks lost to the Bullets in the ECF this year and the Bucks swept the Bullets, the Knicks would've given the Bucks all they could handle.
1:28:08 - Dandridge tries to Euro-step through the lane and is called for traveling. And the referees actually know what they're doing. The pace is faster here, the players just as athletic as in any era. These are the top 2 teams in the NBA at the time, championship level hoops on another level, but what a difference 47 years has made.
Remember that during this era in basketball the overwhelming majority of players went to college and played college ball for four years. These days it's a miracle if a pro basketball player has two years of college ball.
@@KSmall109CAB if a guy is really good, college coaches today don't expect to get more than a couple of yrs out of them. Oscar, then Pistol Pete, wouldn't have amassed the scoring records they have. Teams woulda tossed huge money at em and they wouldn't have completed 4 yrs.
The referees didn't know what they were doing. Eurostep is legal, it is by the rules and it has always been by the rules. Smooth brain people (of all generations, apparently) have trouble understanding this. Euro step is 2 steps just like 2 steps that have always been allowed in basketball. Changing direction while performing those 2 steps can't change the legality of the play. Either both normal 2 step and eurostep are legal either both of them are illegal.
@@KSmall109CABWhy would anyone in their right mind go to college instead of immediately playing basketball professionally and getting paid for it? I live in Europe, there is no such thing as college basketball here. Only a moron would go to college and play for free instead of immediately getting payed as a professional basketball player.
I can recall this time very well. I was 12yrs old and was into my second year of playing the game of basketball in the CYO League, which stood for Catholic Youth Organization. There are a some details about this game: This would be the final season when having the players last name on the back of their uniforms was optional per team. The 1971-72 season it was required. At the start of EVERY quarter a jump ball was required, now it's done ONLY to start the game and to start the second half. Also if you take notice on the uniform trunks, on the lower right hand corner it has the NBA logal sewin on to commemorate the NBA'S 25th year of existence. And one thing to note of, two of the BEST referees ever to officiate the game: Mendy Rudolph and Jake O' Donell, I had the pleasure of watching them in person when I would attend the Seattle Supersonics games etc.. Back in those days you could afford to attend the games at the Seattle Center Coliseum.... Those were some GOOD TIMES!!
I couldn't agree more. Tiny could break a defense down like few others ever have. A truly feared offensive player for any sized player. I recall the 75' All star game. He and Barry moved the ball beautifully and each could pass hit from outside. If Nate hadn't gotten injured w/the Nets and continued to score as he did at KC, he likely would've been known as the greatest little man ever. I still believe he may be. For reasons you mentioned.
Nate Archibald set the criteria for little men bossing in a big man game. "Tiny" Archibald. That's what I remember, he was nothing but trouble to any opponent.
Yep and don't forget Jon McGlocklin, he could shoot the lights out, could you imagine if they had a three point line back then. Also if you remember Dandridge went on to have some great seasons with The Bullets and win another ring. I loved watching The Bucks back then, when I played pickup ball I shot my free throws one handed like Oscar
McGlockin is also a really athletic dude, and smooth as silk. Just imagine if he were allowed to carry, travel, take three or four steps and have it not called on him. Dude is a stud.
Bobby Dandridge should be the next former NBA player to go into the hall of fame. He has won two championships in his career. One with the Milwaukee Bucks in 1971 and with the Washington Bullets in 1978 with two other hall of fame players; Elvin Hayes and Wes Unseld.
@panrell, Keith J. was much better than Schenkel. Twyman was an excellent analyst, and a great human being when you consider what he did with Maurice Stokes.
Yep, he focused that way, and you can tell he practiced free throws like everyone but Wilt back then, lol.. Reed also by taking a deep breath slows his heartbeat down and focuses easier.
Basketball was so far superior in those days. Notice 10 players moving non stop. Ball handlers dribbling with their palms down. And refs actually blowing the whistle for traveling violations. No slam dunks, no endless three point shots, no fist pumps. Just two teams actually playing like teams. Almost forgot how much i loved basketball. It just sucks now.
Bucks won the NBA title that year but the Knicks were the one team that gave them problems. They matched up very well. Knicks were eliminated by Baltimore in the playoff semi-finals so the Bucks didn't have to face them.
Oscar Robertson literally never makes a bad decision. I think he would have been elite in any era.
Of course
I totally agree my favorite of all time the Big O
The truth💯💯💯💯💯💯
@M What the hell is that comment about? This is a video on basketball. Nobody mentioned soccer.
I have no idea what we be the most popular sport in 2070 and don't care.
4:10 picks up his dribble when it wasn’t necessary and passes for turnover
I don't why I seem to enjoy this even more than the current , no defense nba.
I'm with you on that!
Can't believe how fast the pace is
That’s why players stats were so high because of the inflated number of possessions, 20 extra possessions equals to 40 extra rebounds. Crazy shit
20 extra rebounds, not 40
@USAFO6 well put
@USAFO6 I agree but they're right about rebounding stats in this era being inflated
@USAFO6 yes more opportunities to get rebounds=naturally higher rebounding totals due to a different natured game. When people are doing direct player comparisons they're going to call those stats "inflated" because they are for that purpose. Dont be pedantic
The absence of palming/carrying is absolutely stark.
Pete Maravich, Oscar Robertson,Jerry West & Bob Cousy etc actually played by the Legit rules of basketball. For all of Pete Maravich's showmanship.....never saw him travel or carry the basketball.
and Willis is just a pleasure to watch!! a capable big man who could run had an outside shot, could postup and play great defense, he was cut short by injuries!
Love Bobby Dandridge's game. Solid mid range shot, good defender, constantly running and getting open. One of the most underrated stars in his and any era. He brought the Bullets their only title in 79'.
That Frontline of the bullets was as great as it could be Hayes,Unseld,and Bobby D,wow.All three Hall of Famers in their careers
Bullets won in 1978, not 1979. They played the Seattle Supersonics for the ring in both 1978 and 1979. Sonics won in 1979.
Good player
He was smooth
I thought he was the only player to win a championship in college, ABA and NBA. I’ll have to look that up.
Today's fans don't understand why Robertson was so great, but watch the sequence beginning around 45:20. He gets the rebound, runs the fast break and makes a perfect pass. There's no flash at all...just perfect fundamental basketball.
pudman31 Right before the assist, Robertson slows down & slides to the right, giving himself a better passing angle.
I have a young man whom I mentor who I encourage to watch clips or games from the 1960s and 1970s that feature Oscar Robertson. He was undoubtedly a very fundamentally sound player. Watching him is like watching a basketball training video, but in real game situations.
This was always the photo of Oscar Robertson that mesmerized me when I would see it in books
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WHAT?!?!
Literally grabbed a rebound and made a pass to a cutter. I don’t see what’s so significant about that lmao
I started watching a ton of games in 1970 till today and these guys were great fundamentally sound players.Kareem was a beast in these days .
And so was Willis Reed, even towards the end of his career. One of the best outside shooting big men ever.
They weren't great fundamentally. They couldn't dribble with their left hand, and their shooting form was poor.
@@RatedRex1 dude get off these old school videos if you don’t like them. Get a life
@@Mr.56Goldtop yes
@@RatedRex1 you mean they were not allowed to palm the ball travel and double dribble like today.. and they got pushed while shooting unlike today when you breathe on a guy and a foul is called
My first memories of basketball were of this era- I wanted to be Walt Frazier when I was a kid. Great watch!
Yep, me too . . . and then the following week I wanted to be Willis Reed. LOL!
Me too, WALT "CLYDE" FRAZIER was great.
@@bjmartin2437 Pistol Pete Maravich and Earl the Pearl Monroe were my favorites because they were such magnificent ball handlers, I enjoyed Wilt Chamberlain, Walt Frazier, Super Lou Hudson, Artis Gilmore, Bob McAdoo, etc,...
This series was my first memory of liking and watching basketball....through the years my recollection of it was Jabbar's skyhook and Walt Frazier's play. I also like how they didn't feel the need to stuff the ball all the time
You can see with the constant hand checking D how much harder guys had to work to get their shots unlike the turkey shoot that is the NBA today.
Yes indeed
Man Kareem is unstoppable.
Impossible to compare, because of the way the game is officiated now as opposed to then. Back then no wrestling allowed inside. Very little contact allowed off the ball. No moving screens. You lower your shoulder and drive to the basket, and it's an offensive foul. No palming the ball. No 3-4 steps allowed. No changing pivot feet and getting away with it. So the style of play is completely different as a result. And this also explains why the old school guys look a little more awkward and less athletic. Because the rules hampered them. They actually had to be a lot more careful to stay within the rules, and this made them look a little less smooth than the guys from today. But they were a lot more skilled than most give them credit for. As for style of play, there is no contest. The NBA might be more "popular" now, but that has nothing to do with the level or style of play being any better. It has more to do with better marketing---and especially better marketing of superstars---and making a deliberate appeal to the masses rather than the true die hard fans, and the antics of today's showboat players. The antics border on professional wrestling. And say what you want about it, but that kind of stuff sells. Especially with regard to the casual and less informed fan. But if the guys from the past played guys from now----with the old rules and old style officiating in place---the guys from today not only would lose, but they would find it impossible to compete. Because the way they play would result in massive numbers of violations and fouls. Would have nothing to do with how good or bad they are or what kind of brand of ball they played. They would simply be unable to play within the rules. That being said, if the game were officiated the modern way, then the old-timers would have trouble competing as well. So I don't know how it is possible to settle this thing.
Agree 100%
Touche`!
And you had 2 (not 3) of the best refs of the day-Mendy Rudolph (#5) and Jake O'Donnell (#11) on the game.
Perfect
Pedigree of talent is your tiebreaker. In the first year in 1976 of the ABA MERGER after the previous season teams went from 28 to 25 down to that merger season=22, look at how deep those rosters were. You had former all pros as starters put on the bench because the young ABA stars bumped them there, and every team was ten to 12 deep.
Today, you check the pedigrees. Teams are 7 or 8 deep in experienced quality with two or three All Stars on two or three teams, if that.
Those guys then played 2-3 years of college against prospects that were seniors and jrs., and on freshman teams to learn the game.
The athleticism..yeah today they are better, but the basketball, naaaah..not even close.
The court looks naked without a 3 point line
Looks good to me.
I agree, also its weird to hear Kareem referred to as Alcindor....hey, think we're related? Probably not but we have a great surname!
Noah Springer real basketball nobody running right to the 3 point line & fundamentals. The 3 can be exciting but I can take it or leave it. Better during the ABA days
@@johnperrigo6474 love oldies nba basketball, jump ball at both halfs
@@leroypinckney1803 absolutely.
It seems like the ABA didn't overdo it, though, two things to consider.
One, shooting today is better, but two, the line's been brought in.
As a kid I listened to Eddie Doucette call the games on radio in my room when I was supposed to be sleeping. BANGO!
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Jackknife Jumpers from Lucius Allen, Rainbows from Jonny Mac. Lew in the toaster kicks it out to The Electric Eye, Flynn Robinson. I was once there, too, my friend but I got old.
And Captain Marvel (Greg Smith), The Greyhound (Dandridge), The Cement Mixer (Dick Cunningham)............
The big O, Oscar Robertson was one of the best to ever step on a basketball court.
Frazier ate him up in this game.
Must be crazy. Frazier much better.
@@proplayer566 Frazier never averaged a triple-double for five years retired as the all-time assists leader (by about 2,500).
@@JimInNashville Oscar was past his prime here.
@@JAWrightonline Frazier was a much better defensive player than Robertson though
Thanks Hal for leaving this for us. You were a great player.
This was way better than i expected it to be
So once upon a time they actually called travelling and 3 seconds? Amazing. That's what makes this better. The refs actually enforced the rules.
And palming the ball.
It was still lose compared to 50-60s
They enforced the rules more in the Cousy era
@@rafikz77 the refs in those days really earned their money, not like today where they have to go to the court side camera or call the NYC Center Command for Rules and Regulations. The last two minutes can last thirty minutes, smdh.
@@aarondigby9859 Yes they earned their money by doing illegal stuff and coddling Jordan
@@vgr112261 yes
Bob Dandridge was one hell of a player. IMO his hall of fame induction should have come much sooner. He was so damn fast. He had a great jump shot and could drive to the basket and finish well. He also could pass well, and played great defense. And, from everything I've read about him, he was a great teammate. He was one of my favorite players from the 70s.
Dandridge was a shining star that came shooting out of nowhere.
Your right... he was smooth
@@aarondigby9859Norfolk State. NAIA school, I believe.
Love these old broadcasts, they have great sound and a raw look to them. Big fan of those early 70s Knick teams, just a beautiful team to watch and Frazier is in my Top5 Favorite NBA players. Just a smooth player.
How cool was Walt Frazier? Went his entire career without a single technical foul.
Clyde new how to guard people without the need to "hack" , "guerilla" or trash talk the opposing players!!!
exactly!
Yeah some great teams and players back in the day.
Frazier was smooth as silk, deceptively strong, and great defender.
God,it is so enjoyable to watch these teams play a motion offense and not just isolate the floor and kicking it out for 3. Damn Hubie Brown and Bernard King.
+Marc Thompson well, this Bucks team was arguably one of the best pass teams ever
Funny you mention Hubie Brown. He was an assistant coach with the Bucks before heading the Knicks. Don't blame Hubie for getting rid of the motion offense. The Knicks needed a change in style by the early 1980s after having been a pretty moribund team for several years. Bernard King was great in his time, as was the motion offense that Red Holzman developed for the Knick championship teams. However, that style didn't work as the league evolved. Holzman and the Knicks were caught up in a culture change.
I agree.
The style the knicks used with holzman is similar to what spain and puerto rico did in the olympics that year they beat the nba team with james,iverson and company on it.Obviously those forign teams were not as talented as the championship knick teamsof the 70s but they beat nba allstars that year anyway because good ball movement and a well run motion offense will beat a bunch of guys who are more athletic but just standing around.
Yep, and Fratello fell into that trap with Nique and the Hawks too. But those teams were never a match for the Celtics, Sixers, Bucks and Lakers -- and Detroit later on in the '80s -- all teams that played very unselfishly and had multiple stars. Philly probably stood around the most of those five.
These guys are better than I expected
Watching old basketball videos after the NBA got suspended from the coronavirus
lol
This video takes me back to my childhood! Growing up in Milwaukee, I remember this Bucks team so well, and undoubtedly watched this game when it aired. Indeed one of the all-time great teams, and Alcindor was a BEAST! The Big O was maybe a year or so removed from his prime, but it was his acquisition that gave this Bucks team their lone championship later in the year. And "Johnny Mac" as he used to be called, was a pure shooter who would've been a deadly 3-point shooter. Boy, how different the NBA was then!
Remember. When the ABA started in 1967, they included the 3 point line until the league folded at the end of the 1976 season. And it was put in play in the NBA in the 1979-80 season. And the rest is history.
One dimensional, death of the mid-range jumper history..the three pointer should be the most difficult shot based on the defensive front as an obstacle to stop it and the offense's teamwork to play "chess" and pass and get in position to shoot through the defensive difficulty, not distance.
@@robertsprouse9282 everybody chucking up threes, guards getting double digit rebounds, stretch four, stretch five, the three point shot was/is a double edged sword. They don't even have to play b-ball anymore, just chuck up threes, the game now is like playing Around The World where you just chuck up threes.
How about those God awful thick wide arse side burns, just looking at them side burns really got me seeing how much it has changed, lmao.
I was most impressed by Willis' feathery jump for such a big guy, and Dick Barnett's unorthodox shot. MAN...
Dick Barnett's shot was nicknamed "Fall Back, Baby!" Oscar Robertson had seen it going back to the high school days he shared with Barnett in Indiana.
I appreciate the history that you're distilling. I hope those who are reading your comments appreciate it as well. You're right about Barnett and Oscar. They played against each other in the Indiana high school championship. Oscar's team won.
Willis reed and dave cowens always gave wilt and kareem problems.
Loved Jerry Lucas setshot..just try to block it..
@@manny4552 old and knee surgery knees wilt, young early 1960s wilt would chew them up like candy🍬
The game was so much better back then
gmaqwert no
YES
gmaqwert oldhead detected
i had to chuckle when keith jackson talked about what a big deal in terms of prize money the championship team would earn that year: $16,000 per man! with today's 40 million per year contracts, the best paid players probably make about $16,000 every minute of every game the team plays. to someone like lebron james, $16,000 is chump change!
I can't watch the game today.
Today's players may be more athletic, but not smarter! I miss this type of basketball: fierce competition, teamwork, defense, fundamentally sound basketball!
what about the spurs?
You sir definetly have no idea on how play design is today. All i see is players struggling to even dribble with their left hand
Not only don't they play defense anymore... most of these guys (today) suck at the foul line!
The WNBA plays more akin to this style of basketball honestly.
Agree Thomas. I miss this style of play. I can hardly watch the game today without laughing.
Look at the defending, perimeter and post. See the ball, see your man.
No show boating, no pointless dunks. The pace was high temp and end to end. And everyone could shoot, from 5 to 1.
I watch this video, and I realize that the league might have lost something over the years.
SO RIGHT. EVRYBODY COULD BURY SHOTS BACK THEN.
The showboating "pointless" Dunkers did exist back then. David Thompson, Larry Kennon, Joe Caldwell, and Doctor J for example. Even George Gervin was a flashy dunker when he was in his absolute prime.
Tamentonen Hageshi this was the 1971 NBA---nor even Wilt Chamberlain dunked then. the players you mentioned were still playing in high school.
Greg Smith of the Bucks had major hops back then though. He was doing reversals back then.
No Showboating dunks because there weren't a lot of guys who could showboat in those days. These teams would be slaughtered in today's game. The pace was faster in those days, but the game is faster now. Imagine Oscar trying to guard Westbrook, Kyrie, Rose or Curry. I'm 58 years old. I grew up watching these players, but I'm not one of those guys who refuse to admit that the game has evolved.
These freethrow shots! hahaha it's just amazing how they made these
I like that the players don't whine after every foul that's called. Also enjoy watching the constant ball movement on both sides.
For all you basketball challenged people when players are compelled to play the game BY THE RULES its much more difficult. No palming the ball, no changing pivot feet, no jump steps (BTW if Wilt was allowed to jump step he may have averaged 80 ppg), no moving screens (the ball handler is suppose to control the defenders and run them into the pick), no running with the ball before a driving shot.
good analysis. I agree.
Lew Alcindor was change its name to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar after the 1970-71 season.
Thank you for this upload. It brings back great memories of the NBA Game of the Week on ABC Sports. Love the fact that the original commercials were added, as well. Thanks, again. May Keith Jackson RIP.
Willis Reed proved in this game and many others throughout his stellar career that you don't necessarily have to be a 7-footer with long limbs in order to play the center position effectively. Long as you got an outside jumper as your main offensive counter, solid footwork in the post, a strong commitment to defending the paint, and are physically able to outwork your opponent on the boards more often than not, then you qualify regardless. Too bad Elton Brand and Carlos Boozer weren't used at C more often during their careers because they both remind me of Reed at times (though Willis had WAY MORE heart and drive than those two by comparison-lol). Jon McGlocklin of the Bucks also impressed me in this game. His outside shooting would've made him an even more potent offensive player in the ABA at that time (where they were already using the 3-point line). Btw, I wonder if anybody at that game EVER thought Phil Jackson of the Knicks would come back to completely take charge of the day-to-day basketball operations of that franchise today...
;-D
Bob McAdoo, Elvin Hayes, Dave Cowens, and Willis Reed all had outstanding jumpers! Reed was strong as a bull, the announcer during a game noticed how Reed could keep Wilt outside! That is how strong Reed was.
+clu4u yes but this is a young young Kareem Abdul Jabar ,he fills out
Rasheed played center, with Mcdyse *sp? and then in Boston with Garnett. though he is 6'11 so that doesn't really fit
Well when phil jckson was with the knicks people knew he was an intelligent well read zen practicioner who was thinking about getting into politics like bill bradley did.These are bright guys.And he jackson, was a smart effective role player with limited skills.But no one knew he would become this legendary coach at this level?
Willis had a few REALLY good, heady scoop shots that had me goin' WHOA !!Used the glass well, too !! SOLID fundamentals on BOTH teams, too !!
The Knicks from 1968-69 through 1973-74 were a treasure they had a roster full of hall of famers who played the game fundamentally sound
Yep but it's interesting that the 90s Knicks are remembered more fondly than the early 70s Knicks. Definitely one of the most underrated championship teams in the history of the game.
@@blueblur2329 the 69-70 team is the greatest Knicks team of all time they had the mvp Willis Reed the best point guard in the nba Walt Frazier an all star forward Dave Debusschere 2 of the best outside shooters Bill Bradley and Dick Barnett and on the bench they had guys like Cazzie Russell Dave Stallworth Nate Bowman and Mike Riordan
Two amazing teams playing at the top of their game with HOFers all over the place. It's amazing to watch and listen to a full game instead of highlights. I'm old enough to remember well when the score wasn't always on the screen and you'd have to wait or ask someone watching if you missed part of the game.
I watch alot of older games and the thing that always stand out to me is the pace. players are obviously more athletic but they don't play faster than teams played back then. it was a far more free flowing game, players allowed to play on instinct and push the ball to get easy baskets yet were smart and skilled enough to keep turnovers very low. unlike in today's game coaches didn't over coach.
I know this is an old comment (hell, it’s an old ass game as far as that goes), but I have to comment on one thing: I actually don’t buy that athletes are so much better now.
Players back then had poorer shoes than we do now, which limited cutting; they had stricter rules on their dribbling, which limited flashy dribbling and blow bys; at least some players here played college ball at a time when dunking was banned, and therefore wouldn’t have placed much emphasis on flashy dunks during their formative years, unlike now; the three point line wasn’t invented yet, which means spacing is worse, preventing players from getting downhill as easily as players do today.
There are too many era specific differences here for me to feel comfortable making blanket statements about the level of athleticism between eras.
@@bobthabuilda1525 Touche'! Today's pampered celebrities would not last 10 minutes in those crappy converse rubber sneakers (with no ankle support). "Sports medicine" had not yet been invented, physical therapy was in the stone age and "artificial enhancements" - courtesy of modern medicine - did not exist. In short, today’s coddled athletes/ entertainers were neither as rugged nor as resilient as yesteryear’s athletes.
Lew was on fire! And Dandridge has twice the quickness of Bradley. Great classic video. Thanks!
and Bebusschere beats up on Dandridge. which is why the knicks beat the bucks consistently.
Willis Reed was the REAL MR. KNICK!
Willis Reed had no weakness : great shooter;; defender; rebounder ; passer etc etc
Thanks for putting this up. This is the first time I've seen Willis Reed play a full game with no injury. And he does great against Lew Alcindor/Jabbar no less. I think Bob Dandridge was even better with the Washington Bullets years later. Now I always read that Oscar Robertson unlike Jerry West wasn't that good a defender and didn't like the fasbtreak offense, but I see him playing solid defense here and running the fastbreak at times. A really great fundamental player.
Keith Jackson was such a versatile sportscaster too, with such a nice voice. Oh, when did they start calling Jabbar's hookshots as "skyhooks"?
Thanks for the video I was only 3 years old. As a kid from Milwaukee always heard about the 71 bucks.
i love watching these old games and seeing how different the game was. it wasn’t much worse like some people suggest but it was just a lot different
what i love about watching these b ball games is the media and commercials, it really helps give you a more interesting picture of the times
Great passing, great shooting, great team play. Today's game may be more athletic, faster and acrobatic, but games from the 70's are real basketball games, not the mix of Cirque Du Soleil, WWE and any TV talent show that we get served today.
The players today are technically better . Better shooters,players can shoot with Left and Right,Better dribblers,Better passers,ect.....There's no argument to be made in those facets of the game. Anybody who tells you otherwise is an idiot who doesn't play the game. That's like saying Sir Bobby Charlton is as good as Messi or Ronaldo.
@@tynitty516 better shooters from farther out because it's practiced more... Not better passers... It's easy to be a better ball handler today because palming double dribble and traveling are not called anymore... And many of the older guys could shoot with both hands
Thank you so much for posting these lassie NBA films! The Bucks were my team!
Watched 3 minutes of Highlights from Denver vs Heat from game 5. If they had to follow the actual posted rules between carrying, walking, traveling and changing the pivot foot, there were at least 14 violations in three minutes of highlights. Today players have it good and would have their "game" seriously restricted if rules were by the book. Three steps even running in a straight line coming up the court simply isn't called today. Carrying isn't ever called, even changing the pivot foot is allowed virtually every time. Like I said it's great to be a modern day player. They would be crying if they had to follow the same rules these guys did.
November 27, 1970. I think this game was played at the old Wisconsin Field House.
Young Kareem had absolutely no business having so much swagger by speaking so plainly. His game told all. All-time great, absolute badass of a player.
this game was played on the friday afternoon after thanksgiving day!
Kareem had just an amazing career. He competed in two COMPLETELY different Era's. One that featured Wilt, Jerry, Clyde, Hondo, Rick Barry, and Oscar. And then one more time with Magic, Julius, Larry, Isiah, Jordan, and Hawkeem. Crazy..
Yes, indeed.
I'll even go further. He came in early enough to play some against Elgin Baylor(who retired in 71.) And stayed late enough to play some against Reggie Miller and Scottie Pippen. He missed Bill Russell by a half a year on one end, and David Robinson by a half a year on the other end.
Well said
@@billybob5337 yes sir
@@billybob5337 duly noted he played against nearly all the greats
This....is the NBA that I miss these days....
and the old barn down on 6th and Wisconsin, downtown Milw. It's a part of UW-M now and on the National Registry.
They dribble with 1 hand....
@@bsexboy and so?
@@trollkenobi6727 your name I can't take you serious
Bro, it was absolutely boring
The old Milwaukee Arena, located at 4th and Kilbourn. This is where Al McGuire coached his Marquette Warriors for over a decade. And Eddie Doucette was calling Bucks games on "the Milwaukee Bucks radio network". Damn, I'm in 6th grade again. Thank you Hal15Greer!!!!!!!!!!!
The Arena was a great place to watch basketball. Not a bad seat in the house. I really enjoy watching the games from back then.
Game 7 of the 1974 NBA Finals saw the Celtics pop open the champagne in the Arena’s visiting locker room.
What a bummer.
Lucius Allen (Bucks backup Guard) was injured late in the 1973-1974 season and was out for the playoffs. Without Allen, aging Oscar Robertson had to play more minutes in the Celtics series and he wasn't up to the task. The Bucks had the league's best record that season, but without Lucius Allen the Bucks were at less than full strength and that's why they didn't win the Finals in 1974.
I'm still glad that The MECCA (now called UWM Panther Arena) still stands today and is still usable, even for just college basketball.
@@rokyericksonroks the great John havliceks seventh title out of eight... Never lost in the finals
So nice not seeing James Harden/ Devin Booker type antics here of jumping into the defender and getting bailed out by the refs. Much purer game back then.
Less skilled tho, these players aren't even close.....
@@bsexboy you don’t know what basketball skill is. Just hesi tween splash
Fun fact: The world champion Knicks of the early 70's took a page from college basketball and outlawed dunking from their players. Many Knick greats believed the rule gave them better team discipline and unity. When asked if he ever thought about breaking the rule, Knick captain Bill Bradley replied, "I almost broke the rule in practice once".
This is real basketball right here
No doubt. Abdul-Jabbar, Reed, Frazier and Oscar all got their due, rightfully. Some very underrated stars in DeBusschere and Dandridge. Bobby D. with one the best (at that point in his career) rebounders on his team, still averaged bet. 6-8 rebs per game in addition to his consistent 20 pts per nts and solid defense.
All Dandridge did was help his teams win at Mil and Wash. Overlooked in Wash too, cause of Hayes and Unseld to some degree.
This was the day after Thanksgiving, 1970. That explains the network disclaimer slide at the start. Don't know if there was much college football offered at this juncture, such as you see these days. A great team of shooters and passers, that's how the Knicks impressed me as a 10-year old just getting into the game.
The big o is one of the greatest point guards in my book
Yeah, I'd love to have had him on my team. He was an unbelievably complete player.
Charles Scott He's one of the greatest point guards in everybody's book...
Dpal93 One of the best overall guards period. He and West really played both guard positions. Even Frazier, Maravich and Bing did too, to a large extent.
Yeah, but Robertson wouldn't get away with that one hand shot in today's game. That shot would quickly get pushed back into his face.
Easy to think that. But .... he was a master of using his body to ward off
defenders. He knew how to create space.
I was expecting more by Oscar based on what ive heard. (i know this is after his prime) .Reed on the other hand left me a very good impression
Alcindor looks like he might have potential in the NBA.
Kareem-Abdul-Jabber has perfected the hook shot seriously
Classic! Both of these teams would be competitive in ANY era.
Is true my bro!! The style of the game is the same nowadays
I love classic games but this team wouldn't win a game in the 90s 20s or now
I started watching basketball in the late '70s, when Kareem/Lew had already started to slow his game down. This video was really cool to see him at a young age with a lot of energy and some pretty good footwork in the post! I don't remember hearing about McGlocklin, but he looked like a terrific shooter. Thanks for uploading this video!
McGlocklin was underrated when it came to driving to the basket also.
Big10 Gentleman Jonny was a great outside shooter and did it for years for the old Cincinnati Royals before coming to the Bucks. He's been a Bucks broadcaster for many years and has his number retired by the Bucks.
Yeah once mcglocklin got hot he could easily hit 5 or 6 shots in a row really quick.
Yeah Kareem in this era was as good as anyone who ever played.. I saw his whole career
I've seen this one. Love it!
Jump ball at the beginning of a quarter..wow! What memories
Thanks for posting this for suffering Knicks fans.
Knick fans are to men's pro basketball what the Cubs are to American baseball. We are consistently hopeful that a bad product will get better, despite all evidence to the contrary!
We have a slightly better track record than the Cubs. :)
We hated the Knicks in Milwaukee back then!
Great.Thank for the Post.
I miss announcers like this.
Keith Jackson was a Legend. He also did Monday Night Baseball, College Football, and Boxing, Amateur, and Professional for ABC for decades.Chris Shenkel was not far behind!
@@eddielester3589, Jackson was far superior to Schenkel.
@@robertsprouse9282 yes he was.I thought Jackson was so underrated. He had more longevity too...Especially doing the College ranks.Shenkel was rhe laid back type and a very respectful person.
I wish I could go back to these times.
six of the ten starters (Alcindor, Robertson, Reed, Frazier, Debusschure and Bradley are all Hall of Famers! incredible display of talent...
Now dandrige too
Willis so much better than Ewing. He averaged 27 points a game against Lew and shot over 53%.
Ewing facing an old Jabbar shot 41% and averaged 17 points and Jabbar averaged over 20 points in 29 minutes shooting almost 60%.
Remember that Jabbar was 38 to 42 years of age against Ewing and yet dominated Ewing.
Willis on one good leg against Chamberlain in the 1973 finals scored 61 points in the last three games leading the Knicks to another NBA title and he only played 30 minutes because of his bad knee.
Pat Ewing was so overrated.
Did you really call him Lew instead of Kareem?
Reed also had a MUCH better supporting cast. Playing the 1970 team you had to deal with Frazier for one, a much better playmaker than anyone Ewing played with.
It's very easy to take a look at the Knicks records by season. Before Ewing they were terrible, with Ewing they won every year...and after Ewing they've been terrible. There's no better illustration of his value to the franchise.
To be fair, Ewing was drafted as a defensive specialist. He had a very Limited offensive game early on. He surpassed his offensive expectations and became the best perimeter shooting center of all time.
@@artthomas8017 If Bernard King hadn't been injured...
Amen..Willis Reed was special.
Today's Knicks team should watch this game.
Today's Knicks team would beat this team
@@bsexboy younghead
Bucks were 17-1 coming into this game, which took place on Nov 27, 1970. Willis essentially played Alcindor to a draw. Willis with 34 points (15-27 from the floor) and 10 rebounds, and Alcindor with 33 points (14-25) and 26 rebounds. The following night, these same two teams played again and this time the game was even closer with the Knicks winning 100-99. In that game, both centers shot poorly. Jabbar (12-28) for 35 points and Willis (5-20) for 18. The Knicks were 4-1 against the Bucks this season, and the Bucks only lost a total of 16 games. These two teams seemed destined to meet in the Finals, but Baltimore got in the way.
Alcindor had 16 rebounds in this game.
@@MORE1500 You're right; it was a typo.
I took the opportunity to check Alcindor/KAJ's stats for the year to see how many times he shot under 50% from the field during the 70-71 regular season. It was only 19 times. The centers who seemed to have the most success against Kareem in terms of keeping his FG% down were: Elvin Hayes (San Diego Rockets, who "held" Jabbar to games of 20,25,25,25,22), Reed (who held KAJ to 11-32 shooting night in a game on 1-26-71), Wilt, of course (who held KAJ to games of 13-32, 13-30 and a season worst 7-21 on 3-3-71), Thurmond, again of course (Warriors, who held him to 12-30 on 2-20-71).
Other than those great centers, KAJ really dominated the rest of the league. Overall he shot 58% while ave 31.7ppg. People who didn't see him play may not know just how dominant he was in his early years with the Bucks.
@@ddenuci Kareem mentioned that Nate Thurmond was the best defensive center he faced. I think a primetime Jabbar would do quite well in today's NBA.
@@MORE1500 If you look at the top centers today (Jokic, Embiid), they have the ability to shoot from the outside, and drive to the basket starting from the three point line. These weren't Kareem's strengths. I have no doubt that if the three point line existed in the early part of Kareem's career, he would have conquered the ability to hit threes. After all, he had a nice touch from the free throw line.
But, given the era he grew up in, there was absolutely no reason for him to shoot from the outside. Not when you can average over 56% from the two-point range. So he didn't need to develop the three point shooting skill.
If you could transport a 1970 KAJ to today's NBA, it would be very interesting. He would still have a high ppg average and shoot over 55% from inside. Would he get the ball as much though, given how teams have fallen in love with the three. One thing for sure... KAJ probably wouldn't get double-teamed as much as he did in the 1970s. If he did, he would kick it out (he was a good passer) to a teammate standing wide open beyond the arc.
I still can't believe the Knicks lost to the Bullets in the ECF this year and the Bucks swept the Bullets, the Knicks would've given the Bucks all they could handle.
1:28:08 - Dandridge tries to Euro-step through the lane and is called for traveling. And the referees actually know what they're doing. The pace is faster here, the players just as athletic as in any era. These are the top 2 teams in the NBA at the time, championship level hoops on another level, but what a difference 47 years has made.
Remember that during this era in basketball the overwhelming majority of players went to college and played college ball for four years. These days it's a miracle if a pro basketball player has two years of college ball.
tbf he only took 2 steps. It should've been allowed
@@KSmall109CAB if a guy is really good, college coaches today don't expect to get more than a couple of yrs out of them.
Oscar, then Pistol Pete, wouldn't have amassed the scoring records they have. Teams woulda tossed huge money at em and they wouldn't have completed 4 yrs.
The referees didn't know what they were doing. Eurostep is legal, it is by the rules and it has always been by the rules. Smooth brain people (of all generations, apparently) have trouble understanding this. Euro step is 2 steps just like 2 steps that have always been allowed in basketball. Changing direction while performing those 2 steps can't change the legality of the play. Either both normal 2 step and eurostep are legal either both of them are illegal.
@@KSmall109CABWhy would anyone in their right mind go to college instead of immediately playing basketball professionally and getting paid for it? I live in Europe, there is no such thing as college basketball here. Only a moron would go to college and play for free instead of immediately getting payed as a professional basketball player.
this game was played on the friday after thanksgiving in 1970.
afternoon game no less.
I can recall this time very well. I was 12yrs old and was into my second year of playing the game of basketball in the CYO League, which stood for Catholic Youth Organization. There are a some details about this game: This would be the final season when having the players last name on the back of their uniforms was optional per team. The 1971-72 season it was required. At the start of EVERY quarter a jump ball was required, now it's done ONLY to start the game and to start the second half. Also if you take notice on the uniform trunks, on the lower right hand corner it has the NBA logal sewin on to commemorate the NBA'S 25th year of existence. And one thing to note of, two of the BEST referees ever to officiate the game: Mendy Rudolph and Jake O' Donell, I had the pleasure of watching them in person when I would attend the Seattle Supersonics games etc.. Back in those days you could afford to attend the games at the Seattle Center Coliseum.... Those were some GOOD TIMES!!
This is when the game was affordable for the average Joe,Susy and Sam. The women loved rooting for the guys.
man, thanks SO much for uploading this. what a game.
Man, those studded snow tires rock!
great upload!
I couldn't agree more. Tiny could break a defense down like few others ever have. A truly feared offensive player for any sized player. I recall the 75' All star game. He and Barry moved the ball beautifully and each could pass hit from outside.
If Nate hadn't gotten injured w/the Nets and continued to score as he did at KC, he likely would've been known as the greatest little man ever. I still believe he may be. For reasons you mentioned.
Nate Archibald set the criteria for little men bossing in a big man game. "Tiny" Archibald. That's what I remember, he was nothing but trouble to any opponent.
My name's George Nemitz. I wish we could go back to the 1970's, too then that way we can be young again.
So glad I grew up watching basketball during this era. So much better than today's game - so tired of the fascination with the 3 pointer
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@@bsexboy he is completely telling the truth
@@trollkenobi6727 we all have opinions
NBA on ABC (1965-1973, 2002-present).
Yep and don't forget Jon McGlocklin, he could shoot the lights out, could you imagine if they had a three point line back then. Also if you remember Dandridge went on to have some great seasons with The Bullets and win another ring. I loved watching The Bucks back then, when I played pickup ball I shot my free throws one handed like Oscar
McGlockin is also a really athletic dude, and smooth as silk. Just imagine if he were allowed to carry, travel, take three or four steps and have it not called on him. Dude is a stud.
This is insane, you've got the original commercials too?? Also, how nice that they used to just show ONE commercial, instead of 7.
Also, wow @ Oscar's one handed free throw.
I love how unorthodox the free throws are
I remember this game I was a Big Knicks Fan
Hey you all, my name's George Nemitz. When I was much, much younger, I don't remember any of these games. I was only 4 years old.
Six of the ten starters in this game are all-timers and in the Hall of Fame and Dandridge isn't in, but should be
You are right.
Yeah dandridge was a smooth underrated player indeed.
Bobby Dandridge should be the next former NBA player to go into the hall of fame. He has won two championships in his career. One with the Milwaukee Bucks in 1971 and with the Washington Bullets in 1978 with two other hall of fame players; Elvin Hayes and Wes Unseld.
@panrell, Keith J. was much better than Schenkel. Twyman was an excellent analyst, and a great human being when you consider what he did with Maurice Stokes.
Bumping this comment because Bobby finally made it
My left ear really enjoyed the broadcast.
Loved how Willis would take a deep breath and relax before the free throw.
Yep, he focused that way, and you can tell he practiced free throws like everyone but Wilt back then, lol.. Reed also by taking a deep breath slows his heartbeat down and focuses easier.
❤Willis Reed;; no weakness; great defender: shooter & scorer: rebounder; passer ;;
Olu Hamilton got that from bill Russell his boyhood idol
I love the organ music played before the game and during the time outs! I forgot they did this during that era.
Kevin Wilkin Frank Charles! He used to play at County Stadium, too.
What about Oceans and Street Life?
I think they started a few years later
Basketball was so far superior in those days. Notice 10 players moving non stop. Ball handlers dribbling with their palms down. And refs actually blowing the whistle for traveling violations. No slam dunks, no endless three point shots, no fist pumps. Just two teams actually playing like teams. Almost forgot how much i loved basketball. It just sucks now.
thanks for this :)
got to love those shorts.
I love the defense. Guys taking position for the charge, blocking off on rebounds, contesting the pass, no space under the basket. I miss basketball.
I remember this game, i was 13 yrs old
Bucks won the NBA title that year but the Knicks were the one team that gave them problems. They matched up very well. Knicks were eliminated by Baltimore in the playoff semi-finals so the Bucks didn't have to face them.
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