'Not surprising at all': Trump not allowed to testify in closing arguments
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- MSNBC Legal Analyst Danny Cevallos says he’s not surprised that Judge Arthur Engoron did not allow Donald Trump to testify during closing arguments in his civil fraud trial in New York.
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This is misleading. Engoron didn’t deny Trump’s request per se. Engoron actually said that Trump can deliver part of the closing arguments IF AND ONLY IF Trump adhered to the rules he set and ONLY IF Trump’s lawyers and Trump himself will attest to those and sign a conforme. The judge gave Trump 3 deadlines to enter their agreement. They refused. That’s why Trump will not deliver closing arguments.
Edit: The rules the judge set are the rules of court that govern closing arguments.
Exactly!
Thank you for pointing this out.
Great context.
Very good caveat
Weird that the "liberal" media just forgot to point that out.
@fuzzyhook39 what? You are brilliant, surprised you're not on trumps legal team.😂😂
So sad that a former president cannot be trusted to behave in a court.
Not a criminal, corrupt and racist one which Trump is.
It's those diapers, maybe the pins - he gets feisty!
and outside court as well, so basically not to be trusted where ever. Not behave is a big understatement for worse things like lying constantly and stirring up his cult by the way.
Sad? Trump is irritating.
So sad that a former President cannot be trusted to behave anywhere!
It’s not shocking what Donald did, it’s shocking how people twist themselves into knots trying to justify it.
It’s about time the judge shut him up😂😂😂
Trump would just go on a tirade of political BS and lies. We know what he would say anyway. He is a broken record.
You're a warped record that obviously sounds broken
@@catdragonjand yet you can not refute the comment.
Do you? Are you God? Are you his psychologist? Stand down and understand that you dont know what anyone is thinking. So speak for yourself instead of on behalf of others you know nothing about as if you do
@@kevinbossick8374Because there’s nothing to refute. What evidence is there to refute here? He’s just giving baseless claims with no evidence to support anything. The only thing someone can say in response is “no he wouldn’t”. Not really a rebuttal is it?
@@ScarletSword22 we know exactly what Orange Jesus would say. He says it every day. The court room is no place for that B.S.
Trump anticipated that he did it on purpose so he can tell people the judge wouldn't let him talk
not talk but wouldn't let him rally, lie and stir up his cult-followers
Yup
@@ericschout8058
CORRECT
The judge thought about it, but realized he only had 8 hours left in his day.
Victimhood is the GQP bread and butter
My understanding was the Judge did agree to allow Trump to speak albeit with guidelines. It was Trump who didn't agree to abide by them. Hence he didn't get up to speak.
Yup three times they waited But nobody came in get the story straight please!!!!
I meant the News People
So because Trump didn't agree to the rules the judge rescinded his permission for him to speak.
@justsomeguy6474 Trump was given the opportunity, and it was Trumps choice not to abide by the guidelines.
@@donnalogan3386 And that is why the judge rescinded his permission. I can't believe I not only had to explain that...but I've had to twice now. Trump does love the uneducated.
Engeron required trump to sign a commitment to follow the rules of argument. They would not sign it! Trump cancelled himself!
Yep.
You aren't covering the fact that Trump missed a filing to adhere to court decorum. Therefore the judge had no choice but to say no . Again, Trump missed a filing deadline and that is why he is not giving closing argument.
Heard you the 1st time...
In fact, he missed three filing deadlines.
There's much more detail to this. The judge was going to allow it IF trump agreed to the normal rules around closing statements. He missed three deadlines to agree so the judge denied.
I hope that's right. Since Trump is going to appeal - and he's going to appeal everything - no reason to give him a chance to prevail on something stupid like this.
Trump will Buzz Light-year, appeal to infinity and beyond.
Can you please attach proof of your statement please?
Whose rules? It's bs.
@@jamesmason2228Trump can't appeal based on the fact he was denied a chance to speak during closing arguments. Defendants generally aren't allowed to and its at the judges sole discretion
Judge doesn't want to hear Trumps BS.
And neither do we!
I honestly get nauseated when Trump speaks...
Closing arguments are no place for a delusional political rant, kudos to the judge for injecting some sanity to the proceedings
A lot of times he uses this as fundraising and propaganda. The dudes going down, and all his screaming won't stop it.
Trust me, if the communists win and manage to imprison their political enemies. You’re setting a new precedent and you’re all coming down too.
The judge as made the right decision he would just have babbled on with the same old same old. He does not like being told he can't do something that he wants to do but at the end of the day the judge rules the court room NOT him.
In fact, Judge Engoron gave Trump several, extended opportunities to do so, with the condition that he abided by normal court rules, as any other person would be expected to.
Of course, Trump refused to abide by normal court rules, as he wanted to grandstand, threaten, complain and turn the court into his own personal circus.
This is what Engoran forbade, not Trump's ability to contribute. Trump could have agreed but he had nothing to say apart from his usual whines and threats, which he was not allowed to indulge in.
Such a shame that news outlets collude with Trump to give the impression that he had been shut down unfairly. He chickened out is all.
Agreed, Trump was never forbidden to testify. he _was_ forbidden to abuse the court room as a campaign rally. And I think the Judge extended the dead line for him to agree several times.
Given how much Trump loves to play the victim (unless of course he's playing the big strong man with absolute power) I think there's a fair chance that he's more interested in making that 'OH NO THE EVIL CORRUPT WOKE JUDGE SILENCED ME' claim than he ever was in testifying.
Except the judge didn't say, "no." He said, "Trump needs to comply with several conditions." Trump said, "No."
What were those conditions?
@@sarosp9330 Pretty simple stuff, really. He couldn't use it as a soapbox to give a campaign speech, make false claims, that sort of thing. He wouldn't agree to that and so needs to abide by his own decision.
@@sarosp9330also that he couldn’t violate his currently imposed gag order during the closing argument
@@PeytonWind freedom of speech isnt so free in the eyes of a democrat. They felt the same about people 150 years ago too.
Exactly. _and_ those conditions boiled down to ''testify but don't hold campaign rally in my court room''.
Thank you Judge!
But some of us enjoy watching trump continue to make a fool of himself.
Here!
True, but his lawyers are almost as entertaining anyway...Trump gets boring rattling on with the same talking points overandoverandover...🤣🤣🤣
He can (and will) do so NOT on the court's time.
The entertainment value is really high with DJT.
There are plenty of places to go watch that. 😂
I don't understand why Biden doesn't just throw Trump in Gitmo if presidents have absolute immunity.
My point exactly,Lock the GERM up.
Why stop there?
According to Trump, Biden could have TRump assassinated because he would have complete immunity to do so. Well, alright, then.
Biden’s not a pathological wannabe dictator.
Trump should thank his lucky stars that Biden’s a decent man.
Based on the arguments of one of Trump's own attorneys, Biden could go even further than that. He won't, because he has a better understanding of the law and of the Constitution than that. Higher ethical standards as well.
The most annoying thing for Trump is he got treated like a normal person.
The office conceded that Engoron could allow Trump to speak, but noted that the judge had already found “Mr. Trump is prone to giving irrelevant speeches, lacks self-control, is evasive in responding to questions ... and has repeatedly violated court orders for which he has been sanctioned.
Trump SHOULD BE in Jail!
Engoron gave Trump 3 extensions to say if Trump would stick to what had been discussed in court - and not attacking anyone or give a campaign speech. Trump said 'No, I'm good' because those were the two things he wanted to do, not testify about the case itself.
Plus TFG would not sign agreement to follow summation rules he wanted the floor to tell lies.
Too lenient.@@donnarmills9902
We’ve seen crowds gather on DJT’s motorcade route and make humour of imagining him in a convertible. The opposition have created the conditions for a tragedy so they can install candidates from within in a seamless manner.
This is the most opportune time for the opposition to relinquish ALL responsibility and prepare a back story.
Can they find a record of DJT seeing a therapist for a couple of sessions during the most stressful moments of his presidency? Maybe he placed a bet on a football match once? Maybe there was a couple of weeks where he drank excessively and there is a record of the doctor prescribing him a recommendation of going teetotal for a month?
The aim for the opposition is to find something tangible which everyone can point to and say: ‘Oh yeah. That tipped him over the edge!’
But we know DJT will still have the audacity to go for the American dream once more. The public will rejoice as they see him get to the top with his lovely, beautiful and young wife by by his side. DJT will have it all and America will be great again.
It's about time these judges started to stand up to Trump!!!😊😊😊
He who represents himself has a fool for a client.
He who allows a client to play with the law is a fool.
Those who use quotes that make no sense are very funny 😄
That's as corny as Joe Biden being president 😂😂😂😂 you ain't black if you vote for Donald Trump 😂😂😂😂
Letting the defendant rant during closing arguments would be like letting a toddler light the BBQ! A disaster in the making! He can't be trusted to behave himself!
or a turkey fryer.
“You don’t want to hold the former president in contempt” why tf not?! He’s just a citizen now. I’m glad Engeron denied him though. It would’ve been a ridiculous mini Trump rally.
Exactly. Judges do not want to treat him like they treat everyone else.
Like he won't call a press conference and do it anyway
@@Randy-jz9ox Outside the court proceedings and not part of the trial record. Unless Trump plans to (again) violate appeal court procedures and submit a transcript of his ramblings with whatever appeal comes after this.
better to prevent than to hold in contempt - would just allow for more delays . .
@@jamesmason2228 lol you're pretty naive, because the judge offered him a deal to talk. He could have signed to stay on topic and talk, just as I assumed he'd have the right to do. I'm sorry you want to persecute the guy. I'm no supporter of his, but I'm not supporting anything that deprives anyone of due process. You can sign your rights away, but stay away from mine and others.
Court recognizes your legal counsel in the court room, not you as the defendant. You do not speak unless spoken to, or called to the stand to give testimony. Engoron has had more than his fill of Trump's crap and BS and wouldn't have given one second of consideration to this request.
He wants the whole world to turn into a reality TV show with him as the only star or plot points.
It must eat him alive when someone tells him 'No'
He knew this "No" was coming. He will now falsely pronounce that the judge should be jailed for violating Trump's Constitutional Rights, even though Trump is not allowed to speak because he refused to follow the basic rules of any Court in this country, rules any of us would have to follow. We should pronounce Trump the "Lord of Entitlement". After all, he claims that rules and laws do not apply to him.
We all know trump would've thrown a temper tantrum.
He cannot accept good legal advice even if it is given to him.
"He cannot accept legal advice even if it is given to him." Fixed it for you.
His lawyers are equal lunatics.
@@magicsaint only a lunatic would take on a client with a repeated history of scamming and cheating his own lawyers lol
When you have a communist party trying to imprison you for opposing views, you might have a severe lack of trust in higher power.
@The.Dingleberry-003 no
Not allowed because he missed the deadline, he would rather whine
No doubt the judge helped Trump by preventing this. It would have gone about as well as Darrell Brooks representing himself.
Wasn't he that democrat racist that ran over children and old folks in a Christmas parade?
no pal, he castrated Trump's attempt to spew more lies and propaganda since he has had over 3 years to have his say, and spouting nothing but and poison and threats.
He would make Brooks look intelligent.
Trump would have sounded more like a victim impact statement.
Darrel Brooks is a perfect comparison to Trump's erratic and uncontrollable behaviour. It's exactly what I thought some days ago.
And, btw, a perfect argument for televising Trumps criminal trials: If you allow a relatively unimportatnt (no offense to the victims!) case like Brooks to be televised, there is no argument left why you shouldn't allow the public to see the trials against a former President for insurrection charges.
We all know if he was allowed to talk during the closing argument it would quickly devolve into a two hour rant about 'windmils' , slow flushing toilets, Mr. Potato Head and whatever else the Trumpies are upset over this week.
Oh, I think we all have held Trump in contempt for some time now.
I have since the early 1980s when I became aware of him. Saw him for what he was. I was married to one much like him at the time, but with a lot less money.
Trump's lawyers should be happy with this decision. When Trump opens his mouth, he only gets himself into more trouble.
Of course. The last thing they want is Trump speaking in court.
Trump needs to be the victim 🎻😩 and campaign 🧺
But then, when he loses,they won't get paid 😂
Judge is too worried he might tell the actual value of his Mar-A-Lago estate, 18 million? What a joke 😅
That crew are hardly lawyers.
Danny Cevallos has a very keen legal mind, and an intimidating affect. It is a pleasure to listen to his analysis.
lol any trial attorney could have given the same information. This is very very basic procedure
Not WILLING to testify.
The judge gave him 3 extensions and bent over backwards to allow him to testify if he so chose.
Closing arguments are not for testimony. It is for arguing your position based on the facts of the case.
The judge did offer to accept Chump 45 closing arguments if he stuck to court rules. He refused.
Good for you Judge Engoron. Courtroom decorum matters.
Great move judge, trump would've use the court as a trump show
He should be forced to sit in a room and listen to what everyone thinks about him. That should entertain him for the rest of his life.
Does he care what they think? He does have his loyal minions and the followers who are all too willing to send their hard earned money to someone who is supposedly a billionaire. He laughs at his supporters all the way to the bank. He is a great believer in the PT Barnum axiom - "There's a sucker born every minute".
He just wanted the opportunity to use it as his own soapbox, and would not be adhering to the court rules, so good decision on the judge's part.
Judge Engoron knows trump's testimony would be more orange gaslight for sound bites to grift off than testimony.
misread grift as grind. both work.
@@kathyinthewallowas9190 Ha!
Exactly. Trump is such a malignant.
Closing arguments are not testimony they are summations. Trump said no not Engoron.
What would Trump say that would make any difference anyway? The case is already decided. The Judge is right in denying him as all Trump wants is a podium.
Engoron saved Trump from himself. Too bad. Now Donnie has another reason to whine and act like he's persecuted.
Instead , Trump has to listen to his own lawyers ...
Ha! Just wait. If convicted, he will file an immediate appeal that he was given terrible advice from his attorneys.
@@merrim7765
Which will be grounds for not paying them...😂😂😂
Probably the only time is does 😂
Will he even show up if he can't turn the court into a political soapbox?
@@merrim7765And the court will agree but will also find that the incompetence of the attorneys was also partially the fault of the defendant ordering them to advance spurious claims and their incompentence did not affect the final verdict to the point that it should be reversed. There was sufficient evidence to prove the guilt of the defendant and it was clear that the defendant advanced no facts or law in his defense that would change the result.
I mean, of course he wants to talk, last time he let his lawyers do all the talking, they said the sitting president can send a seal team after their rivals without fear of criminal prosecution.
No one is allowed to testify during closing arguments. Closing arguments don't happen until after all the testimony is over
Exactly. And since there's no reason to believe that Trump has any ability to confine his remarks to evidence presented at trial? He shouldn't be speaking to the court at this point.
@@jamesmason2228wow your 😅hatred for president Trump is showing
It's not hatred ,it's accepting the reality of the situation. When has Trump ever stayed on topic without wandering into NeverNever Land? 😂😂@@matthewclark8651
@@matthewclark8651 ummm 😂 obviously you have a hard time reading
@@matthewclark8651You don't have to hatred to know its true. He shows people everyday.
Finally somebody has said NO to Trump
Good job judge!!
Trump wasn't admitted pro-se at any time. In a way it would be fantastic for him to incriminate himself further at the end but rules is rules. Anyone who lets his attorneys advocate for the current administration to send Seal Team six after himself needs protection FROM himself.
They let him ramble for a whole day - on the record from the witness stand.
he would of just spouted out a lot more of lies. like he always does. good for the judge.
It’s his game: propose, indirectly, something legally prohibited, and scream injustice when not “allowed.” Wait for it…
Oh, and the media go along with the game like lapdogs.
What media are you watching? I see several channels that don't.
Exactly.
@@kathyinthewallowas9190 they go along by reporting the “sources” bs to give him the standing to play his game. Who do you see not doing that?
Front step of the courthouse, seconds after the gavel drops...count on it.
@@kathyinthewallowas9190how about every rightwing channel?
Such a shame.. Nothing better than showing his ignorance and senility
That is not what happened; he set rules of decorum and he refused to abide by them. Read the email
That's the problem. No one has held this seditionist in contempt up to this point.
I have. But I'm not a judge.
He should not be allowed to spout lies to the court room without following the law. Thank you Judge.
He would've just made it political, like always.
Why should he? He’s just going to get up there to lie.
It’s because you can’t give testimony without being cross examined.
No book-maker would offer odds on what Trump would say, because we all know that he would pose as the innocent victim, pretend that the trial was a politically-motivated fix and recite his grandiose paranoid delusions again.
Kind weird that after 4 years of 45 'yleaning out the swamp' there's still all that terrible corruption around.
Well done Judge Engoron. All this ridiculous person would say, has had left his mouth about 584 times. DT will never,never admit his guilt.
That was the first rule of his first attorney, Roy Cohn - Never admit anything. Cohn's other tactics taught to Trump were Deny, Deflect, Distract, and Attack, Attack, Attack.
About time a judge does the normal thing in his own court room for this traitor .
He was allowed but he pussied out.
I don't see why someone who is constantly not behaving, who has doxed court staff, refusing to answer the questions asked, etc, etc, SHOULDN'T be held in contempt. If it was anyone else they would have been long before now.
Typical malignant narcissist. He believes if he can just get the chance to talk, he can hook people in with his swill.
You forgot to say dictator. I’m still voting for the malignant narcissistic dictator 😄
I just can't wait until we get to the point where Trump needs to pay. thats the Grand Finale!
They got you sheep so fixated on trump that you can't even see the lunacy of the current Biden administration😂
Civil cases are a joke, who actually pays them?
He'll pay, don't worry . . . He'll pay us back all the tax money Former Vice president Joe Biden stole from us to make SURE illegal immigrants can come in whenever they want, and the tax money Sleepy Joe STOLE from us to give ti his and Hunter's bosses in Ukraine.
That's all the "paying" Trump will do, when all is said and done.
This is a disgusting political operation. Nothing more. Most Americans know the truth
The Orange man is good. And you are not.
Not only is this criminal not in jail but the courts take every step they can to protect him from himself.
All the while he cries "This is so unfair, I'm being treated so unfairly it's unbelievable, folks"
I guess he was hoping to save some money by testifying himself. Maybe Habba can give him a coupon for a discount on her fees.
The Judge extended the time forTrump to agree to speak. He’s the one that didn’t agree to in time again. He had No intention of speaking, only whining about it when he can’t.
Ohhhh, I am so disappointed 😅. People missed the chance to find out about toilets and sinks not working properly and the water dripping. You know, the usual…….😅😅😅
The judge doesn’t want to hear the rants he can hear every time he turns on the TV - if he bothers to watch.
And then Trump will say that he wasn't allowed to speak, denying his first admendment rights (Regardless of protocol) and his followers will eat it up.
Why Don't They Ever Say... " Based On His Previous Obnoxious Behavior.. He Hasn't Earned The Privilege Of Speaking At Closing Arguments? That Would Be The Right Way To Phrase It.
You are villains.
He would give a speech to appear on 6 o’clock news!
About time he was treated like everyone else would have been treated in the courtroom
Trump knew that he would not be allowed to speak at closing arguments...Now Trump can whin that he was not allowed to speak...😒😒
Whining is all the POS ever does anyway.
Wait, Your argument is that Trump predicted he would be cheated, then he WAS cheated, and he's not happy about it, so Trump is in the wrong??
Is that really your argument?? Really??
That's how you know it's a sham trial. You're not allowed to speak on your own behalf. Anybody want to go halfsies on Mar-A-Lago? It's only 18 million according to the kangaroo court. 😆
JYDGE DID NOT DENY DT TO SPEAK BUT DT HAD TO MEET WITH JUDGE TO HONOR LAWS REGULATIONS TO SPEAK TRUMP CHOSE TO NOT ATTEND THIS MEETING IT WAS TRUMPS CHOUCE TO NOT ALLOW HIMSELF TO SPEAKK
@@milesmonroe1028 and now whining against the law in the US ..great job joke Brandon
He was looking for his Beer Hall Putsch trial moment.
He’s got the Goebbels playbook well memorized.
Ja wohl…
This is one of those times when the curious side of me would have loved to hear what he would blabber on about. But the judge did make the right, sensible decision.
Correct, he could speak but he would have to follow the rules😂..could not agree to that
He can't agree as he doesn't understand what rules are.
Trump would have rambled on about his inauguration crowd size. Witch-hunts and perfect phone calls. Also how the election was stolen! lol😅
Is that the judicial version of "shut up you silly man"?
Even as a lawyer, it’s hard to keep up w his civil trial,criminal appeals and election challenges. I started a spreadsheet
This is wrong! He could have spoken if he agreed to follow the court rules!
Had an opportunity to take the stand in his own defense . . . . He is a scared coward of being confronted by cross......
Trump would not have been able to speak without committing contempt of court.
What a corrupt. Lawless. Pawns and system ! 😢
He doesn’t want to testify when lawyers can cross examine, and call out his lies
.. but he wants to do closing arguments so he can say whatever he likes without be checked.
Typical of a conman.
Kudos to the judge.
Justice system is going in the right direction, finally.
Seriously!? With the current President lining his own pockets and those of his family by using our tax dollars to make deals with criminal leaders in criminal countries through his drug-addicted son, you feel justice is served because President Trump made a speech to his supporters!? You are brainwashed by the news media, which is in cahoots with the Deep State to ruin the USA. You might want to do a little bit of deep thinking. Lol!
Donald Trump has the mindset of Charles Manson a cult leader in the 60s.🧐
Trump makes a speech, goes off track, causes a mistrial.
Orange man bad. we get it.
Oh no, Alina better hurry up and prepare a closing argument!
I thinks hers will boil down to "We won so you must dismiss the case and sanction the prosecution". Which will be added to the compost heap with all her other B.S..
I know she’d rather be pretty than smart, but even being both won’t help in this case. 😝😝
Diaper Don is going to be so miserable in jail....
Well, hopefully BUBBA will be sharing his cell and lend a little comfort…
The title is not technically correct. The judge said he could make a statement as long as he kept it germane to the legal issues and didn’t try to turn it into a campaign speech. He didn’t want to do that, he wanted to get up and do his normal unhinged rant, and if he couldn’t do it his way he wasn’t going to play.
Do not need him using the court as his grandstanding with his false politicking
Engoron has heard enough from the defendant. He's showing him mercy but refusing to let a fool be his own lawyer.
Now how in the world could Trump speak without a TelePrompter. It would just be him stumbling over made up words and doing the air accordion thing.
LOL!! "the air accordion thing"
I would label those flapping motions as hippo reflex hippos do that with their tails to spread their poo skump does it to prevent. From being buried in his own bs
ALL HE WOULD DO, IS A STUMP SPEECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love how this judge smiles at the camera... he's a happy guy i guess..😊
Decorum, courtesy, and respect in the courtroom is a two-way street.
Trump doesn't give any, so Trump doesn't get any.
Someone said that Trump doesn't play by the rules of evidence, he plays by rules of Trump.
That is an incorrect statement because Trump doesn't have any rules.
And yet a percentage of our population trusts that guy to be the President of the United States of America!!!
Similar to the percentage that think Biden is actually running this country.
70% disapproval for Biden Presidency now....
Hold on to your hat.