@@risadoobie right? I want him for my pharmacist. Just don't tell my current pharmacist 'cause he is pretty sweet too. He's the only reason I don't leave Walgreens, as much as I dislike them. When he retires, I'm out! Lol
34 years pharmacist here.. Maurice, it's a blessing. Greater things, especially peace in your soul, is definitely in your future. Retail pharmacy ruined my health and I regret taking the only employment options had. There was never any appreciation, especially for the extra hours we work. I worked 55hrs per week and no OT pay. Anyway, God with you. Btw, I still love the science of medicine and study 3 hours per day the newest developments. P.S. You mentioned not getting a bathroom break.. That's why I'm convinced I have CKD Stage 3 because I never drank water during a 13 hour day for 34 years. My anxiety and blood pressure was sky high. I would move so fast I'd sweat!! Wearing a shirt and tie and smock...I looked like I was always sick. .... The words "metrics" triggers me to so much anger because I saw my patients as my grandparents because they were someone's grandparents. I prayed with them, cried with them, hugged them, and would even walk them to their car. I got to the point where I just didn't care about corporate.
Much respect for you and I hope you are doing better now, health wise, no one deserves what you've said you went through. I think I wound up with two UTI's because I wasn't going to the bathroom enough...and since I couldn't go enough I wasn't drinking enough. I'm already a bit prone to them...but not 2 in a year.
Man, I’m just a laymen, but I don’t think I could do what you did. Part of that is because I have always pee’d a lot haha. But seriously, you are da man. God bless
My wife is a pharmacist. Her job is very stressful and cvs is ridiculous to them. You should do a show on pharmacists and their importance to society. My wife feels greatly underappreciated and I'm sure many pharmacists feel the same! We love your doc vader skits!
All the respect to your wife. I'm a cvs pharmacy tech, I understand some of the stress. CVS doesn't give a single bit about any of us. They just want us to push things - to meet metrics. That's all they want...they don't care about us. Tell your wife that as I tech I appreciate the hell out of her.
@@DreamsRemorse I showed my wife and she said "Thank you! She said "She definitely appreciates all the work you guys do as a tech and pharmacists couldn't do their jobs without you guys!" Back to me: I feel you guys are in a difficult field with little appreciation from customers and your companies..I have even heard doctors can treat pharmacists and techs poorly.
@@LGSRIDE Thank you to her as well. Team work makes the dream work. We need to work together and support each other - we need it. And yeah, I'll agree with that about some doctors, as well as those who work in their offices. I've heard a secretary or two curse out a pharmacist on the phone with them.
pharmacy tech here. i walked away from walgreens & went to a smaller chain pharmacy. i am convinced walgreens is the biggest detriment to our industry.
Agreed!! Did you hear about the Walgreens Pharmacist who was fired because he worked in a bad neighborhood that always held them at gun point and he defended himself? He brought his registered gun to work and he defended his techs and store employees.
@@bevieboo13 we are told from the get go to just let them take what they want, and let them go. Even the front end can’t stop a shoplifter from leaving. If we do we will get fired. No second chance, you are canned. Not sure what the front end is doing business wise, but if it was anything like what we deal with at my corner of stressful and depressing even calling for emergency help from front end is useless, because they never respond.🤬
@@sherforlife1 I agree, that's the first thing I thought, too. Walgreens is a horrible environment, I can see that just as a customer. I am switching to a small, locally owned pharmacy due to the constant problems I have every month with my rx - it's ludicrous.
I worked in retail pharmacy for 16 years and hearing the craziness he dealt with was THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH and it was giving me anxiety just hearing it.... that’s why I left retail
I feel Maurice's pain!! I worked CVS as a pharmacist for seven years, four of those as a pharmacy manger, no negative performance reviews...We had a change in our district manager and suddenly I was in their cross hairs. I had to find a new job after seeing the writing on the wall. Thank you Maurice for sharing your story and Zdogg for hosting! Let's change healthcare!
Same!!! I'm a pharmacist comedian as well but I refuse to work retail because of crappy treatment employees get. I'm now at a point where I'm working research jobs and non-traditional jobs since these corporate giants completely ruined the profession.
@@MuditVerma Sorry to bother - what kind of non-traditional jobs do you mean? I'll be starting PGY1 for pharmD in the fall, and the one thing I'm certain of so far is that I want to avoid retail pharmacy. Still trying to figure out what better options exist.
@@ambergolchin4233 No need to apologize! I worked as a medical writer for a small Contract Research Organization right after graduation for a year. The role mainly pertained to ongoing clinical trials for client pharma companies worldwide developing new drugs. I also helped with regulatory documents and compiling ongoing research when writing content for RFPs (Requests For Proposals) to potential leads. I quit after a year to canvass for Andrew Yang 2020 and I also took a deep dive into stand up comedy to better get to know myself. I now work part-time remotely for a mental health advocacy non-profit as a research/content officer as I wait out the lockdown!
I worked as a tech in retail for several years, I'd get home and just be brain dead for like an hour, retail pharm is rough. Thank you for having a pharmacist on your show, love it!!!
I wonder if his manager was personally jealous of him for having an interesting life outside of work plus being on track for a corporate position? Or covertly racist? I think he should apply for the corporate gig in Chicago anyway; considering the protests in past nearly ten days, the corporate office may be motivated to hire him by ignoring the bad and unjust decision of the manager with one of those "Karen's" who complained about "too many" black technicians.
Glad to read in the comments that I'm not the only one who suspects race might have played a factor in this. Walgreens should look into who else was fired by this manager and whether more POC versus not happened to get shitcanned.
These chains are garbage. If you are an employee and mix social media with anything affiliated with a place like WAGS--- a hair too far in corporate's eyes and they will cook you. Sad.
Wow - this interview was incredibly refreshing, especially during such turbulent times. I'm a pharmacist-turned-comedian and I currently avoid retail precisely because of the issues discussed here. I hope big corporations begin listening to healthcare providers sooner rather than later - I'm confident the two of you will synergize our voices such that the big chains listen. I'm really excited to see the upcoming music videos between you two and I can't wait to see what larger initiatives bloom from this. I also hope policy makers consult with the two of you moving forward - the world would definitely be a healthier and happier place with you guys in charge. 🙏🏽
RxComedy (aka Dr. Shaw) is one of the kindest pharmacists I know. As someone who's gone through a similar route, I'm glad that both are you are creating content!
Awesome! Maurice is such an asset to health-care and society!!!! This was inspiring to do projects to help educate and serve outside of our jobs. Thank you to both of you!
Please have Maurice back! He is what helps me lighten the "moral injury" (as you aptly called it) that we are receiving in a job that under uses the training we received and demoralizes us in all the ways Maurice's jokes about. It is somehow easier with his humor. It is also so encouraging to know that someone else in the medical profession sees what happens to your pharmacists in the community. Maurice already has done a bunch for all of us in the pharmacy profession.
I love how he has helped so many people in Healthcare to tell their stories. They do suffer from the way the public is abusive toward them and the way they have to keep it inside. I love how he talks about communicating their pain. They're supposed to pretend they're never mistreated. Humor does alleviate painful situations.
Pharm D. here. When I worked retail we would work 12 hour shifts, exact numbers like Maurice here. We were so busy I couldn’t even leave to even change my tampon. Well it leaked bad. I was so mad/frustrated/defeated. Was accused of adding something to someone’s medicine once. They asked to see what ingredients were in it, but we changed manufacture and I told them so. Next thing I know I get a gasp, bug-eyes and an exclamation “what do you mean, you don’t make your drugs back there?!”!!!!!!! Another time a guy in a wife-beater comes and asked me what he could use to get a cockroach out of his ears...I asked him straight-faced how he knew he had a dead cock-roach in his ears and he said he felt it moving in there the previous day and killed it. I didn’t ask any more questions and suggested an otc ear wash.... A teen came up to the pharmacy one night and asked to borrow a pill of OxyContin.... I have so many stories lol
30+ years ago my husband was pre-vet-med in undergrad and picking up some hands on experience at a mixed animal practice in our college town.... back when large animal vets were allowed to do in-house compounding. Mixing up concentrate for water medication of some kind the vet-owner of the practice explained to my husband (then fiancé) that “you have to make sure you get the right shade of yucky red” (or maybe green?) “because otherwise the clients won’t believe it’s the same thing that they got last time” He found that odd at the time, then about ten years later, he’s the vet explaining to staff that no, you can’t substitute lime jello for cherry jello in the water medication (the sugar makes it more palatable to the pigs) because some farm hand will think the farmer got the wrong stuff. I always appreciated that little sticker on my Rx that said “this is the same medication you have received in the past but the shape or color may have changed.
I'm a tech but one of our pharmacist got accused or licking a lady's pills one time and even a couple years later it is an ongoing job in our pharmacy. Gotta find the humor in the things that happen in retail pharmacy or you will loss your mind.
Exactly..... Like the customer who went ballistic and wanted our badge numbers and the phone number to the state nursing board because we would not sell her syringes for her "dying cat". Uh, we ain't nurses or police officers. She actually argued with me that we DO have badge numbers. Stated the pharmacist had one on his name tag. I had to calmly explain to her that I knew for certain he did NOT have a badge number on his name tag because I was, in fact, the one who made his tag -- only one of so, so many stories.
@Karmen I agree all the chains suck, but I have to agree, Walgreen's is head and shoulders the WORST of all of them. That's been my opinion for ten, fifteen years.
This guy got screwed. I've never associated somebody's sideline with the company they happen to work for. Might I suggest a new Pharm-D emoji on the channel for Maurice to get his brand of comedy out?
Maurice totally resonated with me...a retired NICU RN WHO NEVER WENT TO THE BATHROOM OR HAD LESS THAN 75 SECONDS FOR THE BATHROOM. Never got 3 min to eat in my 12 hr shift . then the patients hated me anyway. Thanks maurice
It seems nurses and pharmacists have a lot in common. I’m a pharmacist and two siblings are nurses. It’s a shame and doesn’t help anyone, including the patients!! Thank you for what you have done and especially for the countless ways and things no one knew of or appreciated the sacrifices mentally, physically and otherwise. 💕
I loved this video! I watched the whole thing and what a wonderful person Maurice is. His humor and kindness really shine through. I work as an RN and can relate to so much of what was discussed. I am so happy to support his channel and other platforms. We need more humor in the healthcare setting. It makes such a difference to patients and fellow coworkers as the environment can already be so stressful. I can remember laughing so hard with my coworkers on the night shift and it really does get you through certain situations. I really, really liked his point about how it would be a great idea for health professionals to also have other areas to generate their income so you don't have to be so afraid if you lose your job. This really resonated with me and although I have been a mother/baby nurse in the hospital, I also love this area of photography and would love to start my own business. I could take their photos and then give them breastfeeding education or help answer other questions or provide support. I agree, that I think this guy has so much to offer the world with his kindness, knowledge and humor and maybe his success and fulfillment can now be accelerated due to not being tied down to Walgreens anymore. 💕
I’m a current pharmacy student who was delayed in school for similar reasons: because of corporate reasons my preceptor dismissed me for wanting to practice in a caring way: autonomous, sense of purpose, and mastery. It hurts and I while I love the patients and interactions I get, the negative back-end is so disheartening sometimes.
Nurse Practitioner here. I don’t know any pharmacist that isn’t smart as hell. The only happy pharmacists I know work in the hospital. Thanks for your explanation on how it is difficult to switch from routine tasks to something that requires critical thinking. Totally explains some of the conversations I have had with pharmacists.
I feel this so hard. Phone hold times are to pharmacy what updating whiteboards are to nursing... customer service metrics that miss the real reason why people are unhappy with their care.
We have this same problem in tech. We write your software, we build & manage your networks (including the internet), and we suffer this moral injury / burnout thing constantly. That should scare you. I did healthcare IT for 7 or so out my 25-year IT career, keeping clinics’ network running, testing new medical equipment, doing large-scale Epic (EMR) buildouts... I’ve don’t almost everything. These days I have a total breakdown every 6 months or so now, and I have to take off and head to the coast for a week each time. It’s really bad, and we’re all feeling it as these jobs go from excruciating to impossible. I honestly don’t know how technology can even survive as there’s too few of us who have these niche skills, and we’re all burning out at a crazy pace. Tech is simply too complicated. If something else doesn’t get us first, tech entropy will screw us all over. Things can only get so complicated before they break down entirely. A Gordian knot of hell. Anyway I have a special understanding of what’s being discussed here.
MANY Years ago as a registered nurse I read an article for nurses about how important “Jocularity” is when caring with patients. It was a good thing. Humor could help in healing etc etc. I don’t know why this guy was fired but how sad if it had to do with his form of JOCULARITY! .... definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary Is the quality of being happy and liking to make jokes!
Haven't heard the word 'Jocularity' since I heard it being used in an old episode of M*A*S*H! Whereby, that word was being used to describe the humor of Hawkeye Pierce.....Good word tho'.......I have blisters on my fingersssss!!!
As a former employee, I can relate. I can appreciate your candid and honest responses. I used to come home everyday and decompress in a comical way or simply talk my $#!% out of frustration. Just imagine enduring all that you know we encounter on a regular basis and so much more. The level of injustice I experienced was indescribable from the staff and leadership.
Great interview. I'm not in healthcare, but it's so good to hear the stories behind the scene. It looks like corporations are all the same at all industry. Capitalism and greed over humans and humanity.
I try to make my patients laugh whenever possible. My favorite joke I came up with is when my patient is badly constipated and hasnt gone for days, I reassure them and say, dont worry, I will give you an effective laxative regimen, and I will not relieve myself of duty until you do. (makes more sense when said aloud, duty/doody)
Working for Walgreens pharmacy is the worst. I was a technician for 8 years and was never treated worst by a company. So much better to work for another pharmacy now. Good luck
Well, it would be great if a couple of million people transferred their scripts out of Walgreens......tomorrow. They should start in the Chicago Area. I don't use Walgreens or any of the "big" Pharmacies out there. I used a small Mom/Pop owned Pharmacy. It costs me a little more, but I truly think it's smarter to keep the little guy in business.... I sure am glad i don't do business AT ALL with Walgreens. Haven't shopped there in YEARS (I think it was about 1980 the last time i was in a Walgreens TBH.)
I adore Dr. Shaw. His channel gets me through life in the pharmacy 😁. As a tech, I have stories about corporate Pharmacy. I have stories about mail order to 🙄. Thanks for being our voice, Dr.Shaw.
I did a day at a local clinic for low income adults. They treated HTN, diabetes, and hyperlipidemia. Staffed by NPs and PharmDs with a physician medical director. The MD saw the very complex patients as referred from the NPs & PharmDs. It was an excellent collaboration!
I truly enjoyed watching this. Maurice needs to run his own show on TV and online. There's nothing wrong with pharmacists or healthcare professionals embracing their talent. We're human beings.
Walgreens made a stupid mistake firing this man ! He is a very well educated and personable pharmacist . I think he should sue that district manager 😡😡😡
@Maurice as a pharmacy tech I think I speak for most of us techs when I say we love and support you!! Keep bringing to light everything the pharmacy staff go through!! I can tell you would be a great Pharmacist to work with!! Unfortunately after 10yrs pharmacy took its toll on me and I got out of the field for now. It's not worth the stress, belittling, conditions, corporate greed, and lack of pay for technicians. I took a job outside of healthcare that pays less in social services and have zero regrets! My health, mentally, emotionally, and physically are no longer suffering. Keep up the good fight!
Brilliant man. I'm only 1/3 of the way thru this video so y'all may touch on this in the rest of the video but he should not go back to Walgreens but start his own pharmacy system based in his research and experience to change the system. He knows his stuff. He is making a big difference in healthcare and will continue to make a huge difference in Healthcare.
The store I worked at was one of the largest grossing Rite Aids in the northwest region. Walgreen's came in and we went to the bottom in less than one year. after I quit they lost over half of their scrip's because they followed me.
We had gone to the same pharmacy in a retail chain for over 20 years. The retailer went belly up a couple years ago, and all local scripts were transferred to the newly rebuilt grocery store. Unfortunately, the grocery chain has not anticipated the neighboring retailer closing, and so the pharmacy space in the new store looks to my eye to be about half the space in the old building ... now with maybe twice the customer count. The disorganization and wait times due to transition were extremely frustrating for my adult daughter who works 50 hour weeks herself and has three small children, one with two asthma inhalers and two nebulizer meds being told she’ll need to come back later after already having waited 30-60 minutes after first checking in 😣 It’s getting better, and my daughter has stuck it out because one of the amazing PharmDs from our old pharmacy is now at the grocery store. And she is worth the wait!
@@tanya5322, I live in a smallish town, around 15K people, we got more than half of the scripts from Kmart when they closed a couple of years ago, and then we got all of the scripts and inventory (which was a disaster) from an independent that was in a grocery store that closed. We were authorized for OT for 2 months last year and 2 months this year. It was INSANE! We were behind for weeks!
“Not communalizing pain [can lead to] emotional detachment, substance abuse and mental illness”. This is so true. We need to band together! Thank you Mr Shaw for all you do for the world.
I absolutely love watching his videos. They make me feel like there are people who understand what we go through. I'm a pharmacy tech for almost 15 years, and I wanted to cry seeing that these people would fire someone who genuinely cared, and wanted to make a difference.
Well I didn’t like Walgreens anyhow so now I’ll definitely not shop nor have prescriptions filled. Comedy is to me sacred, it’s as important as music is to humanity. Walgreens made a massive mistake firing this hilarious amazing man.
What a wonderful post! Walgreens has lost lots of good pharmacists because of the lack of respect they show to their staff. A “pharmacy run by pharmacists,” treat their fellow pharmacy staff horribly. They should be ashamed.
Here's the hard truth. Corporate America is cut throat and the worst thing you can do as an employee is be good. Maurice said it himself that he wanted to be a corporate guy and was working really hard at it. Working for a district manager who saw him as a threat to his job was inevitable. I went through the same exact thing. I led my area in flu shots, our clinical outcomes were number one, we were number one in med reviews for medicare, and it wasn't enough for my DM to give me anything more than "needs improvement". Fuck corporate pharmacy and fuck Walgreens
And this is why some healthcare providers are scared to be themselves and have a personal life for fear of losing their job, license, livelihood. Its a terrible feeling and life to live for some that worry about that. Thank you for showing this and sharing.
His mistake was saying who he worked for. He should have just said "I am a retail pharmacist." Should have never said he works for Walgreens. I miss the old days of independent pharmacies.
As a pharm tech to you as a hospitalist (or your coworkers)-PLEASE have your name, DEA, and NPI legible on a handwritten script, or even a computer printed script. It cuts down on time for us to have to call the hospital to that info for a control or a C2. I LOVE the content from both of you!
I'm an electrical engineer and this is one of my favourite RUclips channel. I hope I'm not the only "not healthcare professional" here cos there is a lot of good information!!!
@ZDoggMD Until now, I knew absolutely nothing of what pharmacists actually did back there behind the glass. Thanks for this eye-opening interview. Hope good things happen for this guy. He talks about the shortage of experienced techs. But I don't see the push from that community to start a career as a pharmacy tech or pharmacist. But this is a good start. I have no idea why this video popped up in my recommended list. Outstanding interview! I think I'll subscribe!
I have sent to my friends in healthcare and to Linkedin corporate Walgreens managers. Love this. I had moral injury event after 15 strong years as an RN after having a craniotomy for a brain tumor. It was a challenge to come back to work and not function as well as I was before. The leaders just did not understand how to handle someone who was affected. I resigned before they could fire me, for no cause of injury to anyone. Just because of what they thought they heard me say, which I can't recall because of my brain processing. All is better now. But, that moral injury thing is so so real.
They’re working our pharmacists 9-9 right now with a 30 minute designated break and patients are losing their minds over us closing for 30 minutes. Lunch breaks are often cut short by 5-10 minutes because we can’t get patients out to close on time for lunch
As a pharmacy technician, with a father who is a retired pharmacist, I feel for this man! I would NEVER work for Walgreens! And,, if we don't have comedy within the pharmacy, it is horrible! And, we are ALWAYS understaffed! I feel for ALL pharmacy staff!!!
He’s hilarious! No worries, Sir! I was just refused by Walgreens to refill my prescriptions because they won’t accept my new insurance--after 30 years of being a loyal customer. Transfer with me to CVS. Not only do they take my insurance, but their food selection is much better than Walgreens!
I'm a retail pharmacy tech and Maurice's videos are always so spot on to what we deal with on a regular basis. We're all so physically, mentally, and emotionally exhausted. The metrics are impossible to meet, especially as corporate continues to cut our budget. My mental health has never been good and working in pharmacy has made it a million times worse. I left my old store because dealing with my store manager, constant floating pharmacists, and my fellow techs made me suicidal. I can't wait for the day I can finally get out of pharmacy for good and find a job where I feel like I'm actually doing good in the world.
I love these two guys. So inspirational. I support both of the issues you bring forth to the public. I'm going to tell ever pharmacist i go to how much i appreciate them. And you Dr Z... YOU'RE THE BEST.... continue to do what you are doing in educating us.
Unfortunately, corporate Walgreens only cares when their @$$#$ are being kissed and they are getting the full benefits from your hard labor without them giving back much. They don't take into account the times that you stayed late helping patients, skipping lunch, taking medications to their homes on your time, or even paying for their medications many times. Dr. Shaw seems like a great professional and human being. Walgreens doesn't deserve him. Good luck to him moving forward. BTW, at Walgreens corporate is ALWAYS involved in all decisions. The "It is the DM decision" statement is BS.
I'm a WAG (walgreens) senior tech for 11 years n yeah its overwhelming. I myself also joke around at work to get thru the day n am so compassionate n care so much bout my patients n they feel that. My compassion n how i try to help my patients when I hear not only when ppl tell me, but ppl telling me and crying bout how much it means to them when i go the xtra for them or a fam member. Or even explaining bout PAs so they understand what's goin on n how they can also follow up w the Dr or ins. Even tho it's crap pay n I have so much anxiety, I feel good when I can do good n help people
I am so sorry that this pharmacist was fired for his work in comedy. The district manager was wrong to make this judgement as well as the corporate people who allowed this to happen. Maurice's firing was not even based on his performance metric... I wish Dr. Shaw the best in the future! I hope he gets back on his feet! I also love the parodies at the end.
Dr. Shaw is too good for Walgreens.
Walgreens f*d up big time. But he finds something way better. Who wouldn’t want this guy working their Rx?
@@risadoobie right? I want him for my pharmacist. Just don't tell my current pharmacist 'cause he is pretty sweet too. He's the only reason I don't leave Walgreens, as much as I dislike them. When he retires, I'm out! Lol
I LOVE Dr Shaw!!! Maurice, you ROCK!!
34 years pharmacist here.. Maurice, it's a blessing. Greater things, especially peace in your soul, is definitely in your future. Retail pharmacy ruined my health and I regret taking the only employment options had. There was never any appreciation, especially for the extra hours we work. I worked 55hrs per week and no OT pay. Anyway, God with you.
Btw, I still love the science of medicine and study 3 hours per day the newest developments.
P.S. You mentioned not getting a bathroom break.. That's why I'm convinced I have CKD Stage 3 because I never drank water during a 13 hour day for 34 years. My anxiety and blood pressure was sky high. I would move so fast I'd sweat!! Wearing a shirt and tie and smock...I looked like I was always sick. .... The words "metrics" triggers me to so much anger because I saw my patients as my grandparents because they were someone's grandparents. I prayed with them, cried with them, hugged them, and would even walk them to their car. I got to the point where I just didn't care about corporate.
I'm so sorry your health was so deeply impacted 💜💜
Thank you for being an amazing human being.
So sorry for your experience and the effect on your health. Corporations are sucking the life out every one and everything, labor and consumers.
Much respect for you and I hope you are doing better now, health wise, no one deserves what you've said you went through. I think I wound up with two UTI's because I wasn't going to the bathroom enough...and since I couldn't go enough I wasn't drinking enough. I'm already a bit prone to them...but not 2 in a year.
Man, I’m just a laymen, but I don’t think I could do what you did. Part of that is because I have always pee’d a lot haha. But seriously, you are da man. God bless
My wife is a pharmacist. Her job is very stressful and cvs is ridiculous to them. You should do a show on pharmacists and their importance to society. My wife feels greatly underappreciated and I'm sure many pharmacists feel the same! We love your doc vader skits!
All the respect to your wife. I'm a cvs pharmacy tech, I understand some of the stress. CVS doesn't give a single bit about any of us. They just want us to push things - to meet metrics. That's all they want...they don't care about us. Tell your wife that as I tech I appreciate the hell out of her.
@@DreamsRemorse I showed my wife and she said "Thank you! She said "She definitely appreciates all the work you guys do as a tech and pharmacists couldn't do their jobs without you guys!"
Back to me:
I feel you guys are in a difficult field with little appreciation from customers and your companies..I have even heard doctors can treat pharmacists and techs poorly.
@@LGSRIDE Thank you to her as well. Team work makes the dream work. We need to work together and support each other - we need it.
And yeah, I'll agree with that about some doctors, as well as those who work in their offices. I've heard a secretary or two curse out a pharmacist on the phone with them.
My pts love the pharmacists at the local CVS. When some one complains about the pharmacy, I give them NYT article to read.
@@ChanceNP my wife just told me she loves that! She isn't allowed to talk about that article as per her job. They really don't want it out there..
pharmacy tech here. i walked away from walgreens & went to a smaller chain pharmacy. i am convinced walgreens is the biggest detriment to our industry.
Agreed!! Did you hear about the Walgreens Pharmacist who was fired because he worked in a bad neighborhood that always held them at gun point and he defended himself? He brought his registered gun to work and he defended his techs and store employees.
@@bevieboo13 we are told from the get go to just let them take what they want, and let them go. Even the front end can’t stop a shoplifter from leaving. If we do we will get fired. No second chance, you are canned.
Not sure what the front end is doing business wise, but if it was anything like what we deal with at my corner of stressful and depressing even calling for emergency help from front end is useless, because they never respond.🤬
I've been following him for years. This guy is so funny. He will land on his feet! Walgreens please rehire this funny man.
I love fresh water fish! So cool!
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He doesn't need Walgreens he can get a better job.
@@sherforlife1 I agree, that's the first thing I thought, too. Walgreens is a horrible environment, I can see that just as a customer. I am switching to a small, locally owned pharmacy due to the constant problems I have every month with my rx - it's ludicrous.
@@SydMountaineer your absolutely right am with you there support small businesses these big corporations don't care.
Pharmacist here! We do love you Z! Love your platform.
I worked in retail pharmacy for 16 years and hearing the craziness he dealt with was THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH and it was giving me anxiety just hearing it.... that’s why I left retail
I feel Maurice's pain!! I worked CVS as a pharmacist for seven years, four of those as a pharmacy manger, no negative performance reviews...We had a change in our district manager and suddenly I was in their cross hairs. I had to find a new job after seeing the writing on the wall. Thank you Maurice for sharing your story and Zdogg for hosting! Let's change healthcare!
DMs are like fish left out in the sun. Makes everything stink around them!
This man is everything we need in a competent, caring pharmacist.
Which is precisely what Walgreens doesn't want, evidently. 😥
Comedy must be respected as a sacred art. I will never go to Walgreen's again.
Literally just called to move my Rx's from Walgreens to another pharmacy in my town
I have been advising people to avoid Walgreen's for about ten or fifteen years.
Same!!! I'm a pharmacist comedian as well but I refuse to work retail because of crappy treatment employees get. I'm now at a point where I'm working research jobs and non-traditional jobs since these corporate giants completely ruined the profession.
@@MuditVerma Sorry to bother - what kind of non-traditional jobs do you mean? I'll be starting PGY1 for pharmD in the fall, and the one thing I'm certain of so far is that I want to avoid retail pharmacy. Still trying to figure out what better options exist.
@@ambergolchin4233 No need to apologize! I worked as a medical writer for a small Contract Research Organization right after graduation for a year. The role mainly pertained to ongoing clinical trials for client pharma companies worldwide developing new drugs. I also helped with regulatory documents and compiling ongoing research when writing content for RFPs (Requests For Proposals) to potential leads.
I quit after a year to canvass for Andrew Yang 2020 and I also took a deep dive into stand up comedy to better get to know myself.
I now work part-time remotely for a mental health advocacy non-profit as a research/content officer as I wait out the lockdown!
I worked as a tech in retail for several years, I'd get home and just be brain dead for like an hour, retail pharm is rough. Thank you for having a pharmacist on your show, love it!!!
I wonder if his manager was personally jealous of him for having an interesting life outside of work plus being on track for a corporate position? Or covertly racist? I think he should apply for the corporate gig in Chicago anyway; considering the protests in past nearly ten days, the corporate office may be motivated to hire him by ignoring the bad and unjust decision of the manager with one of those "Karen's" who complained about "too many" black technicians.
Glad to read in the comments that I'm not the only one who suspects race might have played a factor in this. Walgreens should look into who else was fired by this manager and whether more POC versus not happened to get shitcanned.
I was just thinking this.
I was thinking the same thing after hearing his story!! Definitely the DM was a hater and corporate backed him to do their dirty work.
These chains are garbage. If you are an employee and mix social media with anything affiliated with a place like WAGS--- a hair too far in corporate's eyes and they will cook you. Sad.
Wow - this interview was incredibly refreshing, especially during such turbulent times.
I'm a pharmacist-turned-comedian and I currently avoid retail precisely because of the issues discussed here. I hope big corporations begin listening to healthcare providers sooner rather than later - I'm confident the two of you will synergize our voices such that the big chains listen.
I'm really excited to see the upcoming music videos between you two and I can't wait to see what larger initiatives bloom from this. I also hope policy makers consult with the two of you moving forward - the world would definitely be a healthier and happier place with you guys in charge. 🙏🏽
RxComedy (aka Dr. Shaw) is one of the kindest pharmacists I know. As someone who's gone through a similar route, I'm glad that both are you are creating content!
Agreed! 🔥🔥 You guys are the G.O.A.T.s!
Current Wag Employee, Maurice's vids have all been on point about Pharmacy. Hope he lands on his feet!
Awesome! Maurice is such an asset to health-care and society!!!! This was inspiring to do projects to help educate and serve outside of our jobs. Thank you to both of you!
@T Collins EXACTLY!Your comment is on target!
I'm a paramedic of 13 years turned hospital pharmacist 10 years ago. I'm in, I'll zoom call and vent stories anytime anywhere!
Please have Maurice back! He is what helps me lighten the "moral injury" (as you aptly called it) that we are receiving in a job that under uses the training we received and demoralizes us in all the ways Maurice's jokes about. It is somehow easier with his humor. It is also so encouraging to know that someone else in the medical profession sees what happens to your pharmacists in the community. Maurice already has done a bunch for all of us in the pharmacy profession.
I love how he has helped so many people in Healthcare to tell their stories. They do suffer from the way the public is abusive toward them and the way they have to keep it inside. I love how he talks about communicating their pain. They're supposed to pretend they're never mistreated. Humor does alleviate painful situations.
Humor disarms angry customers. Every time.
Pharm D. here. When I worked retail we would work 12 hour shifts, exact numbers like Maurice here. We were so busy I couldn’t even leave to even change my tampon. Well it leaked bad. I was so mad/frustrated/defeated.
Was accused of adding something to someone’s medicine once. They asked to see what ingredients were in it, but we changed manufacture and I told them so. Next thing I know I get a gasp, bug-eyes and an exclamation “what do you mean, you don’t make your drugs back there?!”!!!!!!!
Another time a guy in a wife-beater comes and asked me what he could use to get a cockroach out of his ears...I asked him straight-faced how he knew he had a dead cock-roach in his ears and he said he felt it moving in there the previous day and killed it. I didn’t ask any more questions and suggested an otc ear wash....
A teen came up to the pharmacy one night and asked to borrow a pill of OxyContin....
I have so many stories lol
30+ years ago my husband was pre-vet-med in undergrad and picking up some hands on experience at a mixed animal practice in our college town.... back when large animal vets were allowed to do in-house compounding. Mixing up concentrate for water medication of some kind the vet-owner of the practice explained to my husband (then fiancé) that “you have to make sure you get the right shade of yucky red” (or maybe green?) “because otherwise the clients won’t believe it’s the same thing that they got last time”
He found that odd at the time, then about ten years later, he’s the vet explaining to staff that no, you can’t substitute lime jello for cherry jello in the water medication (the sugar makes it more palatable to the pigs) because some farm hand will think the farmer got the wrong stuff.
I always appreciated that little sticker on my Rx that said “this is the same medication you have received in the past but the shape or color may have changed.
I'm a tech but one of our pharmacist got accused or licking a lady's pills one time and even a couple years later it is an ongoing job in our pharmacy. Gotta find the humor in the things that happen in retail pharmacy or you will loss your mind.
Exactly.....
Like the customer who went ballistic and wanted our badge numbers and the phone number to the state nursing board because we would not sell her syringes for her "dying cat". Uh, we ain't nurses or police officers. She actually argued with me that we DO have badge numbers. Stated the pharmacist had one on his name tag. I had to calmly explain to her that I knew for certain he did NOT have a badge number on his name tag because I was, in fact, the one who made his tag -- only one of so, so many stories.
@@qqq1q1qqqqqqq dying cat? Go to the vet?
You should write a book with these stories!
Not sure that being fired from Walgreen’s is a bad thing! Walgreen’s sucks!
@Karmen I agree all the chains suck, but I have to agree, Walgreen's is head and shoulders the WORST of all of them. That's been my opinion for ten, fifteen years.
Great interview!! So much to unpack here. Love the Dr and Rph conversation who get each other sooo well!! Appreciate listening to this.🔥
Corporate medicine doesn’t want to fix the things you complain about they want to shut you up!!
I hope someone shows Netflix his stuff. Would love to see a special.
@Magnan Imus
EXACTLY!
Netflix supports pesos no
@@norseczar27 lol yea my comment didn't age well at all 😂
He's still really good though.
This guy got screwed. I've never associated somebody's sideline with the company they happen to work for.
Might I suggest a new Pharm-D emoji on the channel for Maurice to get his brand of comedy out?
Great job to both of you guys. The info you talked about is so accurate.
Maurice totally resonated with me...a retired NICU RN WHO NEVER WENT TO THE BATHROOM OR HAD LESS THAN 75 SECONDS FOR THE BATHROOM. Never got 3 min to eat in my 12 hr shift . then the patients hated me anyway. Thanks maurice
It seems nurses and pharmacists have a lot in common. I’m a pharmacist and two siblings are nurses.
It’s a shame and doesn’t help anyone, including the patients!!
Thank you for what you have done and especially for the countless ways and things no one knew of or appreciated the sacrifices mentally, physically and otherwise. 💕
I loved this video! I watched the whole thing and what a wonderful person Maurice is. His humor and kindness really shine through. I work as an RN and can relate to so much of what was discussed. I am so happy to support his channel and other platforms. We need more humor in the healthcare setting. It makes such a difference to patients and fellow coworkers as the environment can already be so stressful. I can remember laughing so hard with my coworkers on the night shift and it really does get you through certain situations. I really, really liked his point about how it would be a great idea for health professionals to also have other areas to generate their income so you don't have to be so afraid if you lose your job. This really resonated with me and although I have been a mother/baby nurse in the hospital, I also love this area of photography and would love to start my own business. I could take their photos and then give them breastfeeding education or help answer other questions or provide support. I agree, that I think this guy has so much to offer the world with his kindness, knowledge and humor and maybe his success and fulfillment can now be accelerated due to not being tied down to Walgreens anymore. 💕
I’m a current pharmacy student who was delayed in school for similar reasons: because of corporate reasons my preceptor dismissed me for wanting to practice in a caring way: autonomous, sense of purpose, and mastery. It hurts and I while I love the patients and interactions I get, the negative back-end is so disheartening sometimes.
My advice to any pharmacy student is to stay away from retail. DON'T be lured by the extra dollars.
It only gets worse with time in retail
Nurse Practitioner here. I don’t know any pharmacist that isn’t smart as hell. The only happy pharmacists I know work in the hospital. Thanks for your explanation on how it is difficult to switch from routine tasks to something that requires critical thinking. Totally explains some of the conversations I have had with pharmacists.
Walgreens did this man super dirty!
Pharmacist here for 22 years..great content on this channel and Dr.Shaw is fabulous!
I can’t believe Walgreens did this! Such a passionate guy!!! Loved learning about his story.
Can't wait to hear your combined musical parody video with Maurice.
I feel this so hard. Phone hold times are to pharmacy what updating whiteboards are to nursing... customer service metrics that miss the real reason why people are unhappy with their care.
Sounds like a wrongful termination suit could be filed
Unlikely. You sign an at will contract in a position like this. The company can fire you for anything.
Walgreens, shame on you! He’s on point & hysterical!
We have this same problem in tech. We write your software, we build & manage your networks (including the internet), and we suffer this moral injury / burnout thing constantly. That should scare you.
I did healthcare IT for 7 or so out my 25-year IT career, keeping clinics’ network running, testing new medical equipment, doing large-scale Epic (EMR) buildouts... I’ve don’t almost everything.
These days I have a total breakdown every 6 months or so now, and I have to take off and head to the coast for a week each time. It’s really bad, and we’re all feeling it as these jobs go from excruciating to impossible. I honestly don’t know how technology can even survive as there’s too few of us who have these niche skills, and we’re all burning out at a crazy pace. Tech is simply too complicated.
If something else doesn’t get us first, tech entropy will screw us all over. Things can only get so complicated before they break down entirely. A Gordian knot of hell.
Anyway I have a special understanding of what’s being discussed here.
MANY Years ago as a registered nurse I read an article for nurses about how important “Jocularity” is when caring with patients. It was a good thing. Humor could help in healing etc etc. I don’t know why this guy was fired but how sad if it had to do with his form of JOCULARITY! .... definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary
Is the quality of being happy and liking to make jokes!
Wow! I learned a new term here - makes sense!
Haven't heard the word 'Jocularity' since I heard it being used in an old episode of M*A*S*H! Whereby, that word was being used to describe the humor of Hawkeye Pierce.....Good word tho'.......I have blisters on my fingersssss!!!
What a story!! Thanks for covering this. Maurice, you rock!!
Thank you for everything you do. As a male RN I feel like you're who I'd want to be if I were a MD. I love how unabashedly you share your opinions.
As a former employee, I can relate. I can appreciate your candid and honest responses. I used to come home everyday and decompress in a comical way or simply talk my $#!% out of frustration. Just imagine enduring all that you know we encounter on a regular basis and so much more. The level of injustice I experienced was indescribable from the staff and leadership.
Great interview. I'm not in healthcare, but it's so good to hear the stories behind the scene. It looks like corporations are all the same at all industry. Capitalism and greed over humans and humanity.
That beginning was priceless! 😂
I try to make my patients laugh whenever possible. My favorite joke I came up with is when my patient is badly constipated and hasnt gone for days, I reassure them and say, dont worry, I will give you an effective laxative regimen, and I will not relieve myself of duty until you do. (makes more sense when said aloud, duty/doody)
big bottle, little bottle joke is so damn funny!!!
Working for Walgreens pharmacy is the worst. I was a technician for 8 years and was never treated worst by a company. So much better to work for another pharmacy now. Good luck
Well, it would be great if a couple of million people transferred their scripts out of Walgreens......tomorrow. They should start in the Chicago Area.
I don't use Walgreens or any of the "big" Pharmacies out there. I used a small Mom/Pop owned Pharmacy. It costs me a little more, but I truly think it's smarter to keep the little guy in business....
I sure am glad i don't do business AT ALL with Walgreens. Haven't shopped there in YEARS (I think it was about 1980 the last time i was in a Walgreens TBH.)
I adore Dr. Shaw. His channel gets me through life in the pharmacy 😁. As a tech, I have stories about corporate Pharmacy. I have stories about mail order to 🙄. Thanks for being our voice, Dr.Shaw.
I did a day at a local clinic for low income adults. They treated HTN, diabetes, and hyperlipidemia. Staffed by NPs and PharmDs with a physician medical director. The MD saw the very complex patients as referred from the NPs & PharmDs. It was an excellent collaboration!
I truly enjoyed watching this. Maurice needs to run his own show on TV and online. There's nothing wrong with pharmacists or healthcare professionals embracing their talent. We're human beings.
Maurice is a gem-for sure. Thanks for interviewing him. These kinds of interviews may be ‘silver linings’ of the Coronavirus.
Walgreens made a stupid mistake firing this man ! He is a very well educated and personable pharmacist . I think he should sue that district manager 😡😡😡
The. Medical system is sooooo broken. Thanks Dr Zdogg for keeping us in touch with human emotions🥰
@Maurice as a pharmacy tech I think I speak for most of us techs when I say we love and support you!! Keep bringing to light everything the pharmacy staff go through!! I can tell you would be a great Pharmacist to work with!! Unfortunately after 10yrs pharmacy took its toll on me and I got out of the field for now. It's not worth the stress, belittling, conditions, corporate greed, and lack of pay for technicians. I took a job outside of healthcare that pays less in social services and have zero regrets! My health, mentally, emotionally, and physically are no longer suffering. Keep up the good fight!
Brilliant man. I'm only 1/3 of the way thru this video so y'all may touch on this in the rest of the video but he should not go back to Walgreens but start his own pharmacy system based in his research and experience to change the system. He knows his stuff. He is making a big difference in healthcare and will continue to make a huge difference in Healthcare.
Completely agree!! God bless the child that got his own!
The store I worked at was one of the largest grossing Rite Aids in the northwest region. Walgreen's came in and we went to the bottom in less than one year. after I quit they lost over half of their scrip's because they followed me.
We had gone to the same pharmacy in a retail chain for over 20 years. The retailer went belly up a couple years ago, and all local scripts were transferred to the newly rebuilt grocery store. Unfortunately, the grocery chain has not anticipated the neighboring retailer closing, and so the pharmacy space in the new store looks to my eye to be about half the space in the old building ... now with maybe twice the customer count.
The disorganization and wait times due to transition were extremely frustrating for my adult daughter who works 50 hour weeks herself and has three small children, one with two asthma inhalers and two nebulizer meds being told she’ll need to come back later after already having waited 30-60 minutes after first checking in 😣
It’s getting better, and my daughter has stuck it out because one of the amazing PharmDs from our old pharmacy is now at the grocery store. And she is worth the wait!
@@tanya5322, I live in a smallish town, around 15K people, we got more than half of the scripts from Kmart when they closed a couple of years ago, and then we got all of the scripts and inventory (which was a disaster) from an independent that was in a grocery store that closed. We were authorized for OT for 2 months last year and 2 months this year. It was INSANE! We were behind for weeks!
" We should all be standing up for what is right." Spot ON.
“Not communalizing pain [can lead to] emotional detachment, substance abuse and mental illness”. This is so true. We need to band together! Thank you Mr Shaw for all you do for the world.
Maurice, you are sooooo gracious my brother... God bless you.
I absolutely love watching his videos. They make me feel like there are people who understand what we go through. I'm a pharmacy tech for almost 15 years, and I wanted to cry seeing that these people would fire someone who genuinely cared, and wanted to make a difference.
Thank you, for bringing another view/angle from another fellow healthcare worker. A comedian is just the cherry on top! Will follow.
ZDoggMD you are on point and Dr Shaw is too. Blessings to you both! If more people think like you both the world would be a better place. Much love❤
Well I didn’t like Walgreens anyhow so now I’ll definitely not shop nor have prescriptions filled. Comedy is to me sacred, it’s as important as music is to humanity. Walgreens made a massive mistake firing this hilarious amazing man.
What a wonderful post! Walgreens has lost lots of good pharmacists because of the lack of respect they show to their staff. A “pharmacy run by pharmacists,” treat their fellow pharmacy staff horribly. They should be ashamed.
I’m so glad that you featured him, he’s HILARIOUS and it’s so spot on it’s scary,
I have always followed his videos. Love his comedy about everyday pharmacy work life. Cannot believe they did this!
Here's the hard truth. Corporate America is cut throat and the worst thing you can do as an employee is be good. Maurice said it himself that he wanted to be a corporate guy and was working really hard at it. Working for a district manager who saw him as a threat to his job was inevitable. I went through the same exact thing. I led my area in flu shots, our clinical outcomes were number one, we were number one in med reviews for medicare, and it wasn't enough for my DM to give me anything more than "needs improvement". Fuck corporate pharmacy and fuck Walgreens
And this is why some healthcare providers are scared to be themselves and have a personal life for fear of losing their job, license, livelihood. Its a terrible feeling and life to live for some that worry about that. Thank you for showing this and sharing.
His mistake was saying who he worked for. He should have just said "I am a retail pharmacist." Should have never said he works for Walgreens. I miss the old days of independent pharmacies.
As a pharm tech to you as a hospitalist (or your coworkers)-PLEASE have your name, DEA, and NPI legible on a handwritten script, or even a computer printed script. It cuts down on time for us to have to call the hospital to that info for a control or a C2. I LOVE the content from both of you!
I'm an electrical engineer and this is one of my favourite RUclips channel. I hope I'm not the only "not healthcare professional" here cos there is a lot of good information!!!
@ZDoggMD Until now, I knew absolutely nothing of what pharmacists actually did back there behind the glass. Thanks for this eye-opening interview. Hope good things happen for this guy.
He talks about the shortage of experienced techs. But I don't see the push from that community to start a career as a pharmacy tech or pharmacist. But this is a good start.
I have no idea why this video popped up in my recommended list. Outstanding interview! I think I'll subscribe!
I have sent to my friends in healthcare and to Linkedin corporate Walgreens managers. Love this. I had moral injury event after 15 strong years as an RN after having a craniotomy for a brain tumor. It was a challenge to come back to work and not function as well as I was before. The leaders just did not understand how to handle someone who was affected. I resigned before they could fire me, for no cause of injury to anyone. Just because of what they thought they heard me say, which I can't recall because of my brain processing. All is better now. But, that moral injury thing is so so real.
We love him a tech from CVS he makes our day. Thanks for the laughs
Loved this conversation…two amazing human beings!
This was wonderful! I’ll be following him! He’d be awesome running a mobile interdisciplinary Unit through his local health dept! Thank you!
Amazing interview! ❤️❤️
They’re working our pharmacists 9-9 right now with a 30 minute designated break and patients are losing their minds over us closing for 30 minutes. Lunch breaks are often cut short by 5-10 minutes because we can’t get patients out to close on time for lunch
As a pharmacy technician, with a father who is a retired pharmacist, I feel for this man! I would NEVER work for Walgreens! And,, if we don't have comedy within the pharmacy, it is horrible! And, we are ALWAYS understaffed! I feel for ALL pharmacy staff!!!
Love this man..as a nurse you have to laugh...we have to laugh. Man o man my corny jokes might get me fired also..
He’s hilarious! No worries, Sir! I was just refused by Walgreens to refill my prescriptions because they won’t accept my new insurance--after 30 years of being a loyal customer. Transfer with me to CVS. Not only do they take my insurance, but their food selection is much better than Walgreens!
I'm a retail pharmacy tech and Maurice's videos are always so spot on to what we deal with on a regular basis. We're all so physically, mentally, and emotionally exhausted. The metrics are impossible to meet, especially as corporate continues to cut our budget. My mental health has never been good and working in pharmacy has made it a million times worse. I left my old store because dealing with my store manager, constant floating pharmacists, and my fellow techs made me suicidal. I can't wait for the day I can finally get out of pharmacy for good and find a job where I feel like I'm actually doing good in the world.
I respect pharmacist but it's Walgreens industry that sucks not the people that work for them
I love these two guys. So inspirational. I support both of the issues you bring forth to the public.
I'm going to tell ever pharmacist i go to how much i appreciate them.
And you Dr Z... YOU'RE THE BEST.... continue to do what you are doing in educating us.
Dude, we are just numbers on a spreadsheet.
Agreed, it's criminally inhumane.
100%
Unfortunately, corporate Walgreens only cares when their @$$#$ are being kissed and they are getting the full benefits from your hard labor without them giving back much. They don't take into account the times that you stayed late helping patients, skipping lunch, taking medications to their homes on your time, or even paying for their medications many times. Dr. Shaw seems like a great professional and human being. Walgreens doesn't deserve him. Good luck to him moving forward. BTW, at Walgreens corporate is ALWAYS involved in all decisions. The "It is the DM decision" statement is BS.
I have been at Walgreens for over a decade, ONE tech knows my name. I find that strange.
It is dehumanizing.
I’m only 5 min in and I love this guy!! Shaw’s are my peeps ❤️ (former Shaw here 🙌🏻 )
I'm a WAG (walgreens) senior tech for 11 years n yeah its overwhelming. I myself also joke around at work to get thru the day n am so compassionate n care so much bout my patients n they feel that. My compassion n
how i try to help my patients when I hear not only when ppl tell me, but ppl telling me and crying bout how much it means to them when i go the xtra for them or a fam member. Or even explaining bout PAs so they understand what's goin on n how they can also follow up w the Dr or ins. Even tho it's crap pay n I have so much anxiety, I feel good when I can do good n help people
I work in a Walgreens pharmacy and he’s spot on
I’ve been watching him for years! He’s hilarious.
This man is insane, succeeding in two careers while I’m struggling with one! Awesome guest, will follow
Thank you for letting him use your platform 🙏🏽
I am so sorry that this pharmacist was fired for his work in comedy. The district manager was wrong to make this judgement as well as the corporate people who allowed this to happen. Maurice's firing was not even based on his performance metric... I wish Dr. Shaw the best in the future! I hope he gets back on his feet! I also love the parodies at the end.
Walgreens doesn't want happy pharmacist!
Props to supporting pharmacy DrZ
Former Navy Corpsman, sorry it took so long to find you. This podcast is great!
That was an awesome show. I enjoyed him, what great human!!