How To Install A Catch Can
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- Опубликовано: 8 авг 2017
- Today we are installing a Black Forest Industries BFI Catch Can on a 2015 Tiguan. This is a Volkswagen CCTA engine and the DIY applies to most VW TSI engines. This may help reduce carbon build up on the intake valves for GDI or Direct injection engine More about carbon buildup • Preventing and Fixing ...
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Thanks for yet invaluable DIY vid! Just replaced Intake Manifold on my CC with the upgraded one I bought from deutsche auto parts; cleaned whole bunch of carb with B-12 & drill wire brush. I really don't want to take out my manifold again, so this neat catch can will be my next project.
I love that you keep mentioning to leave fasteners finger tight. Something that was taught to me at a young age by a wise old mechanic, leave it loose till everything is in place, then tighten and torque.
IT makes life so much easier LOL
Great video and I like your detail to connects and the way you explain. Definitely a good thing to do to any car I would say.
Just picked up a 2014 Tiguan, with just over 50K on it, have to say your vids are what made me choose it. You do an awsome job of laying out the things that need to be done and how!
Thanks so much Tim 🙏
Great video,as usual.👍👍
In a world of over-engineered oil catch cans, this one actually has some features that justify some of the expense. You've got a few super complicated hose connections (thanks VW?) that they give you connectors for, and it has a dipstick. I would still make one with a vintage oil can and some steel wool and tubing though. Making you take it out to drain it, or supply your own valve is lame though. Adding $3 to the price for a valve and some hose would not have scared off the kind of customer who would have bought it at $430.
For a long time, I scoffed at the number of Allen Bolts that VW uses, including on the breaks. Now I am using allen bolts on my subaru oil pan because it's narrower, and I don't have to worry about getting a narrow 10mm on the bolts anymore. Now I have respect for the allen.
MAN! You really have to be very HUMBLE to keep putting up with VW! I gave up on them years ago! I loved them when I was younger ,but I liked working on them all the time. I'm 54 now and can barely walk, must less bend over at all. I am subscribed, I let you do the work for me while I watch! LOL! I live 117 miles NW of you HUMBLE, NW of CAMEL CITY if your old enough to remember that nickname. It's NW of the GATE CITY, if you remember that too! If not ask someone older, they will know for sure. Love your video's! Thanks for all the time and effort! If you ever get rich, I've got a friend who is 2nd from the top at NORTH STATE Bank! HA HA! He also does investments! I think you and him live close by. I was ASE CERT. on cars and Heavy Class 8 Trucks, but am disabled now so, no need to recertify! I live through guy's like you! It's hard on you when you can't do anthing anymore! Can't even dress without a little help.THANKS again for all you do! Stay safe and keep those fingers out of the way! BLESS YOU HUMBLE! PEACE................................................................................................................
You have a great channel and even though I don't own a VW, one can still learn a ton from watching your videos. Both my vehicles have GDI engines and both have catch cans (from a different manufacturer than one shown in the video). Do your research before buying one and locate a good install spot as that will be pretty crucial to ease of maintenance/compatibility. Both work as they should and even if they only take out 50% of the bypass oil/vapor mixture, that's that much less going on your intake valves and caking them up. Cleaning those things is a nightmare and over time, buildup can cause poor engine performance since it can't breathe properly. Again, thanks for the video and you may want to link the one you did a while back about GDI engines and some of their shortcomings.
Charles, you are really good at this.
Thank you. 💙
hey great post. that's old school type stuff from back in the days before the pcv valve we had drip tubes or a catch can most cars just dripped oil on the ground
Hmmm well wow. As i just bought a used tiguan with 140k miles on it. And seeing all your videos on oil deposits on these cars . Looks like i better get a catch can on this baby asap. Great channel by the way
Many of you will be asking
"does it work to stop carbon?"
"how does it work?"
Those are great questions. I will show you how it works in a different video. As far as "does it work", It will take some time to see how well it performs.
thanks Charles, will be waiting for that other video, maybe you should add an extra question to the list : why cars don't come with catch can from the factory ?
HumbleMechanic never believed in these, plus the ea888 has a built in catch can. That is what the block mounted (under the water pump) oil separation valve is for.
The last Q is easy. COST! but it's a good point to bring up in video
That is the primary oil separator. That gets the big particles. The fine oil separator is built into the PCV valve.
I see.. well.... just thinking load... I guess cost may not be an issue for German manufacturers, they sell expensive cars anyway, at least it should be available as an option for some engines...
Great video, thank you. I have a 2018 2.0L in an Audi A5 is this same procedure other non-transverse mounted? Also some have a replacement PCV plate. I noticed this was done on the Tiguan.
Greetings!! Great video! Why should be the back side of the pcv blocked? If you block the rear end doesn't it affect the way oem pcv works? The vapors should all be gassed out from the front side?
Hello, I see that you cancel the pcv valve, it is possible to install it without canceling it. It will work the same? Thanks
Great Video, Do you have a link to the parts/kit used, especially the connecting pipes with the squeeze push clips on them ?
I'm a late comer but the 2.5 is the biggest needer of a can versus all other VW gas engines with its PCV/MAP issues.
Hi noticed when you took apart the rear pipe @ 4min there was a lot of oil in your pipe. If the PCV is working shouldn't you get near to nothing in there?
Nice video
That is a very nice kit, I looked into a 303 performance kit but I like this one better. Time to start saving some money.
Sweet!
HumbleMechanic Hello ,sure am learning from you about diesel motors, I just purchased a used 2014 2.0 tdi, really a 2013 comfortline package, has 68000 k local Volkswagen dealer here in Ottawa Canada. Bought certificate , put the Mechanical breakdown protection plan for 3 years or till 147,829 k. Would like to keep it for life ,I’m a back yard mechanic, haven’t done diesel, but I would like to learn tricks and practice at junk yards, and collect parts. About putting a catch can on this,and what the Dealer will say thanks
Great video. Does this catch can fits on jetta TSI MK6 with canister ?
The catch can is instal in the same area where the canister exist.
Thanks a lot
I have seen all kinds of oil catch can starting at $25 and up. I guess one has to custom fit/make the hoses for the application that he/she needs. I have a 94 f150 (bought it from my friend) and the owner gave it a crappy life. It leaks everywhere around the engine and i plan on installing a catch can, in between the throttle body and the engine breather on top of the valve covers. I want to do this to all my vehicles. Thanks for the video Charles
Does this also work for 1.8 tfsi CABD engine since pcv system looks the same?
does this work with the 2.0 TDI engines of the a3 8p?
You're my hero.
Which catch can do you recommend for the 2019 Jetta GLI?
It shouldn’t conflict with the six-year 72,000 mile warranty?
Love the vids ...keep up the good work. First time VW owner last night(2015 Tiguan base model) Would it be possable for you to do a video on Stereo upgrades? My Tiguan has no back up camera or Nav. like to know about issues with factory upgrades or Aftermarket ... and if anything else is needed to do either upgrade?
Hey! Question, couldn't you just hook the catch can back into the intake manifold? Instead of running it through the air system in the back?
So is there a catch can that you recommend for the mk4 TDI ALH?
Hey humble mechanic, I wanted to know more about a PCV block off plate, is it good for your engine or just a worse mod to do?
Did this help with the car using oil? Thanks
Mk4 1.8t GTIs already have an oil catch can. If you've never taken out the intercooler ever then look out, once you pop off that hose you'll have a bit of a spill. The intercooler is the low point in the intake system so that's were it all ends up.
With this modification does the crankcase have enough ventilation? Does the lower ventilation affect the engine oil quality? Does this modification void the factory warranty? If I were to do it, I would route the output from the PCV valve into the can and route the output of the can into the intake manifold to preserve the original design of the PCV system from the factory.
I have some question hope to have your feedback. i installed the catch can like you have done it but after 4000Km I check today and see no oil inside the catch can is there anything wrong with my car? Car is a Gti Mk6. thanks in advaned and Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year!
Hey I love the videos I onw a 2009 volkswagen golf gti with the tsi just did my timing chains an tensioners with help of ur videos. My question is why not tee both the back an front pcv outlets into the same line then to the catch can. Why block off the back port? I know the front has the oil separator diaphragm an the back I'm assuming does not ? Just curious I run a catch can on my front pcv an the back outlet as well 2 cans one for each. But neither ever have anything in them. When I had the back poet block off like so in the video I had to empty half can of water each week. So that being said the 2nd question is without the back blocked off an using both outlets like I have it to separate cans why is there no water build up in either can now? Only time I get anything in the can is if i block off the back pcv outlet like in the video an only use the front. This pcv system is confusing I get the front works only under idle when its stock an the check valve let's it close off when in boost..an 3rd question is does the pcv system actually need to have vaccum or can it be vented to atmosphere?
hello there... where you buy the L adapter to clamp the hose to the Admision Pipe?
can this be done on a tdi cr engine?what will be the benefits on doing it?
what is the coldest temperature you run your catch cans in?
in a TDI 2.0 140cv: How much oil does it filter? Does it really work?
Question please. For a NA engine, can i connect the pcv valve and the breather together to the can's inlet and the intake to the can's outlet while cancelling and blocking the manifold's air inlet? would that be fine for the can's and engine 's performance ?
Have you recently had the intake valves walnut blasted and you are now trying to keep the deposits down ? if so, what mileage did you clean it at? thanks...I have the 2015 Tig as well
What happens if I connect PCV to inlet of oil catch can & outlet to the intake manifold.( any need to block the low pressure side of pcv?) plz help me to get a clarity
Does adding the africa plate and the catch can change the emissions?
Hey, how do you know which is 'in' and 'out' on the can itself?
Do you have a playlist of the modifications/ service you’ve done to the Tiguan?
I never made a Tiguan play list since I only did a few videos on it
so how did the catch can perform ? since the 2017 install , been 2 yrs ...ie. in your case did it reduce the amount of carbon build up on the intake ? and the back side of the valves ? I just picked up a used bpy head off a 2007 passat , it was badly carboned up , to the point that I'm considering the catch can approach . this head is going in my 07 quattro 2.0 t . thx !
We’re did u get the drain valve didn’t see it on there web site.
I am looking for a high end catch can for a 2012 honda civic 1.8l. Any ideas?
Rx performance catch cans do a great job with 1 way vacuum check valves before and after the throttle body so under light throttle and wide open throttle their is vacuum in the crankcase.
That's was my question how does the intake side of the turbo provide a good enough vaccum? Or do they even meed vacum to ventilate the pcv. Old cars vented it to atmosphere I believe it only is under vaccum since they had to reroute it back into the combustion chamber for emissions purposes only
Can you do this or is it needed on a 2014 Jetta SE?
Hi!
Good video, but you forgot to mention what it does and why people may want this upgrade 🙂
I didn't forget. This is strictly a DIY video. I am going to do that video in the next few days.
I have played around a lot with DIY only VS DIY and description. It usually works that the videos both better broken up.
Can we install the inlet hose From PC valve to inlet off cutch can . And the second hose from the outlet of PC valve to intake manifold
By any chance. Do you have the part numbers for the add-on?
Specs on the drain valve? Thread size?
Hey Humble Mechanic, I have been looking for a long time a Catch Can for my 2006 Audi TT 8j 2.0 TFSI (BWA), what do I have to buy?
very interesting videos, keep it up! from Germany :)
Is there a Catch can system for a 2016 Touareg VR6? Or is it needed on this car?
I just purchased a 2019 Volvo XC60 T6 Inscription with the 2.0 liter supercharged and turbo engine. I found out it's a Direct Injection engine. However, not all direct injection engines need a oil catch can. Do you know if i should install an oil catch can on the 2.0 liter Volvo engine
Hey Charles, can I got this in if I'm also running a Unitronic DV relocation kit. It looks like it goes where I now have the hose from the throttle body to intake. 2016 Tiguan
can I put a can in between my power brake booster hose? It is a chevy 385 race engine no pcv valve
Will one help with oil use on a 2014 TSI 1.8? Or is it just to catch carbon?
On any engine, with any catch can, does the PCV valve stay on the engine with the can's hose connecting to it?
I literally just bought some stuff from Deutsche (sp) Auto Parts and thought to myself, "Should I buy an oil catch can for my wife's CC? Yeah, but I don't know how to properly install it."
As Keanu would say, "Whoa!"
+Luke Edward hahaha I watched The Matrix last night so I feel ya. Lol
Thx for the video. WILL this work on my 2018 VW Tiguan Allspace here in Ecuador?
Question, What Engine type is your wife's 2015 Tiguan, as will all Tiguan for the America's, there are made in Mexico. I'm seeing if this Catch Can from Black Forest will work. I would have to import it as shipping here is a bear. Thank you. David with a great 2018 SE Tiguan
So does it work?
I want you to know that even though I don't own a Volkswagen I have learned tons of info from your videos. I am no mechanic by any means. Thank you!
I own 2017 Kia Forte5 Sx with a 1.6T GDi. I think I might have installed my catch wrong. I ran mine between my Pcv valve and intake manifold. But I noticed during my install that there is a hose from the top of my engine on the other side from Pcv valve that goes to my air intake tube.
Well I had to unbolt my air intake tube from airbox to run my lines for my can. While I did this. I noticed oil inside my air intake tube coming from that hose coming in. Should I have hooked my can up between there?
Does my car possibly have two pcv valves?
Should I buy another can and install it there?
I've watched install videos for my catch can on Hyundai Veloster's that have the same engine as mine. I hooked mine the same way they did theirs. But I just want to be sure.
I honestly value your opinion and info a little more seriously than I do most of anyone else on youtube. Any info on this matter would be extremely appreciated. Thanks for all the info I've learned from your other videos.
Just asking do you recommend any of the catch can kits that replace the stock pcv housing because I removed it when I bought the CTS kit for my mk6 cc! Now I’m really worried because I’m seeing on forums that I should keep the stock pcv
Hi, can you please help me out with your suggestion should I install catch can on my 2002 Golf MK 4 1.9 SDI 324000 Miles but still running fine. I would like to last as long as possible. Is it worth it ? Thanks in advance.
Should I install one on my Atlas VR6?
Will this fit a 2014 Beetle GSR with a 2.0TSI turbo?
`hello, does it also fit on a 2007 audi a3 2.0 tfsi bwa engine ?
Need to do this on a 2014 vw jetta s 2.0L would this be similar to this?
Is there a catch can kit for the 2015 2.slow engine?
Does this modification mess with your warranty at all
So after 9 months or so how clean is the intake? And how much oil have you collected?
Wish he would say.
@@hunter6099 sameeee....
Hello, i have a question, i was told that catch cans where specially designed for engines with a turbo installed. How ever i see in your video that this is a natural aspirated car, i am not very aware of the specs of that Tiguan, but it seems to be natural aspirated engine. I have a 4G69 2.4L mitsubishi engine that uses a VVT technology, would you recommend a catch can for this engine, whats brand would be the ideal? Thanks
would this be same installation for TFSI 2.0 Turbo charged engines since there is couple different ways people installing these catch cans regardless if there is only one correct way to install them lol.
Great video Charles, thanks. I followed it to install a BFI catch can on my 2017 Tiguan, but now I’m getting an intermittently rough/noisy idle. Kind sounds like a boat engine. Checked for a vacuum leak. Not much online about it, some people said a catch can will increase the crankcase pressure and make the rear PCV actuate a lot making the noise. Anyway, any idea if that’s the case or it’s a bad thing other than just being annoying? Thanks
I know nothing about your car. I replaced a pcv valve and could not get the hose to seal and kept getting vac leaks even though I kept tightening the clamp.. mechanic used some silicone around the hose opening and that solved it..hope this helps
Charles, i have a bew tdi, 04 jetta and i want to do this. Hiw can i find a kit for my car? I have looked and all i come up with is gas options. Can you help me? Thanks Bruce
Help! I have just got a BFI clean catch can for my 2020 GLI 2.0T (I think it is Gen 3), since I installed it I have been having bad fuel smell. So I removed the catch can and re-installed the original breather hose but the issue persists. I have re-installed the BFI catch can but this time I changed the original o-rings that come with the hoses for FKM (viton type) o-rings but still fuel smell! I have noticed the catch can hasn't caught any oil so I am wondering of my PCV valve has failed or not. Any advise? Thank you!
Hi
Do you have a video of you fitting a catch can to a VW TDI engine? All the ones on RUclips seem to concentrate on petrol engines. My daughter has a 1.6TDI Touran (2014MY), her old one suffered turbo failure at 160,000 miles then all sorts of engine problems as the EGR kept clogging, it was a chicken and egg situation. did egr cause turbo or did turbo cause egr?
Anyway hope you could help.
Hi humbleMechanic! now I have a 2015 VW beetle which has a charcoal canister with two hoses come out of it, one goes to the purge valve and one goes to the what I believe fuel line comes from tank.
the question is... does install a catch can replace the charcoal canister?
in case not, could my car have both and how to do that?
Where can i purchase a block off plug for my aluminum intake pipe?
I have a Audi A3 2.0 tfsi Quattro 2006. Do you now any good catch can kit for this model ? And who sell it ?
Like your videos when you fix your cars. 😎🤘🏻
Fredrik from Sweden 🇸🇪
Does a 2017 VW Jetta 1.4 TSI need this mod.
Would it be worth it to instal it on 2017 1.4 TSI Golf 7.5 ? Tuned engine, currently being track modified.
Installed a forge on my tiguan 2.0tsi. Same setup as this. Car smokes crazy if left to idle for 5mim. Could the pcv valve be the issue? Any insight would be greatly appreciated thanks guys
can i use a catch can if i do the pcv delete?
Do u add it where the pvc valve is?
1. Just received my CCT004EK kit, have not installed it yet. BFI has not changed the bracket to accommodate the AC lines in the Tiguan, so it's Dremel time. Also, the can no longer accepts screw fittings. This has been improved: the hoses now have VW-style quick disconnects on both ends, and the pipes coming out of the can have been modified to accept these 'click-on' fittings.
2. Here is the BFI Item Number and Description for the drain valve and right angle fitting: EZ4513, EZ Oil Drain Fiting [sic]
3. Charles: It appears that the catch-can hoses will interfere with removal of the oil filter. Is this the case?
Does adding a catch can make the car fail a smog check?
I WILL USE THE TRANSLATOR, FORGOTTEN THE ERRORS: Excellent your videos Charles! One question: crank case ventilation port and PCV out, are they communicated internally? If I cancel, for example, the rear exit, the one that goes through a corrugated pipe in the form of S to the turbo manifold, ALL that vent will leave by the PCV? Is there any risk of accumulation of oil or dirt if I put the plug at the rear outlet of the valve cover? I ask you this because I'm doing a home PCV, THANK YOU, SANTIAGO FROM ARGENTINA, Club de Vento and Audi.
After installing a catch can, my upper timing cover starts to leak oil. Is my catch can not good? Or does the gasket need to be replaced? My mk6 GTI has just above 80.000km.
nice vid Charles. so ironic this is to prevent carbon buildup, yet VW may void your warrantee due to the modifications.
HAHA, never thought about it that way, but it sure is
I haven't got a return pipe, and my catch can is only catching water.
Is there any danger not having a return pipe?
Is it worth installing a catchcan on a older car? I have a 10 year old Scirocco
I heard this isn't a good idea during winter. Can I uninstall just as easily?
jesus lord, what a nightmare of overkill oem connectors...
* very well explained video
Hi charles,
normaly I installed the Catch-Can in the pipe section behind the throttle body ( pcv-valve to valvecover) and leave the breather pipe, which is installed before the throttle body( from the air manifold/airbox to the valvecover) like it is.
But in this video, you are closing the breather pipe.
I am asking, because of installing it in to our 1.2tsi VW Beetle , the next days.....
Is this because of an Turboengine, so it has to be this way and not the "normal way" like in an natural aspirated eingine ?
V/r
Andreas
I want to know if better to close it or put breather
The PCV system have 2 vent, I from PCV to intake manifold and 1 from crankcase to air intake, so did u just capped off and modify it to PCV to catch can to air intake? Whats gonna happen when your Tiguan is in boost and the PCV close?
Only the front pcv outlet has a check valve the back one doesn't. So with it being ran PVC to catch can to air intake side if turbo it will have consistent vaccum. Not much but constant. If he had routed it back to the intake manifold it would have had vaccum under idle but when in boost it would have closed off the check valve like u said it would..