Small Shop Dust Collection - Affordable & Effective Solutions
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Ever wondered how I keep the DP shop so clean? Watch this special episode showing all the dust collection solutions I use in the DP shop to keep it clean without breaking the bank. Wood dust is both a health hazard and time consuming to clean up. Learn how to effectively collect the dust at the source and which setups to use.
For more information, read my article here:
www.danpattison.com/blog/2016...
I use a combination of a 1 HP dust collector with an Oneida Super Dust Deputy, a Bosch VAC090S dust extractor, a Shop Vac with an Oneida Dust Deputy kit, and a Delta ambient air cleaner. These 4 machines combined with efficient collection ports and shrouds make for some excellent dust collection. Also check out my shop made jigs and dust collection aids that further improve dust collection capabilities such as the dustless jigsaw table, circular saw cross cut jig and table saw overarm dust collector. Links to those videos are below:
Dustless jigsaw table - • Dustless Jigsaw Table ...
Circular saw cross cut jig - • Circular Saw Cross-Cut...
Table saw overarm - • How to Build an Overar...
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Dan, your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Very high quality and production values in the videos themselves - not to mention always very well thought out and useful tips for doing high quality woodwork!
+Peter Brown thanks!
Another fantastic video. I really admire how clean your workshop is.
You are wise beyond your years! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
That was an amazing presentation, Dan. Thanks so much.
Great content Dan, thanks much. I use two of the (Grizzly) overhead shop air cleaners mounted so that they form a nice circulation loop around the shop ceiling, works really well in this configuration, especially good when CNCing MDF.
Great content, as usual, Dan. I like the combination of the canister filter with the felt filter below to increase air flow.
+pgfollett thanks! That filter set up really does make an improvement in air flow.
Great video I'm working on setting up my shop and this was very informative!
Excellent video Dan - thanks very helpful for a beginner.
I did exactly the same with my DE, canister on top, felt bag underneath. It really increases the time between clean-outs.
Thanks for all the detailed explanations. Very helpful!
Great video Dan, thanks for posting it.
Excellent presentation and some good and useful tips. Thank you mate, Antonio/Thailand.
Dan, please keep up the good work! Your videos are always informative and well edited.
I see lots of comments about dust filters. I hate dust particles of any size in my workspace. Here's my solution. I have a large, central Dust Deputy and I vent the dust collector directly outside through a hole in the back of my garage. That's what sawmills do and they create big piles of dust outside. In my light-duty case, I have yet to see any build up. The dust just blows away. No filters at all!
Thanks, glad you find the videos helpful! Venting the dust collector outside is great in terms of no dust being put back into the shop. The only problem is in this climate you also lose your heat in the winter.
that's what I want to do in my garage. any tips for dust collection for a beginner?
Great Video Dan! Lots of fantastic ideas! Have A Super Week!.....Gus
+TheWoodWerker thanks you too!
Great tips Dan, thanks mate
I wish I could keep my garage that clean and organized.
so geeky! amazing! will use some if those ideas for my first workshop! :)
thx from berlin!
Excellent video, very informative. Will definitely check out your others.
Very helpful to see how you keep the trash bag open even though it's under suction.
Nice set up Dan!
+Jim Dockrell (The Watertone Workshop) thanks Jim!
Very interesting, I'm in the process of setting up my shop (13' x 33'), so it helps to see what others are doing.
Very nice setup
+David Caplette thanks. I actually just moved to a new shop space that is twice the size so I'll be working at setting that up. You can follow the progress on my Instagram if you're interested.
instagram.com/dpshoptalk/
Dan Pattison I will follow your progress and check your other videos, have fun in your new shop :)
Excellent video! Very helpful. Thanks!
Very cool setup!
Thanks Dan. Very useful.
I found a decent portable seperator at harbor freight for 35$. Works great with my axial glide miter saw and Hitachi table saw. It's really similar to the small dust deputy. I just run it to my rigid shop vac when I'm trying to keep the dust down at work. Believe it or not, it catches about 80 to 85% of the dust from the tool and nothing gets to the vacuum except when I'm cutting mdf. Hardly anything catches that stuff. But any type of wood, it's like night and day
Very, very informative. Thanks!
Thanks, very informative.
Very informative. Thanks for sharing. Subscribed. I'll follow your other social media as well. All the best!
+JD Fidler thanks!
Well presented, thanks for all your efforts.
Great Video!
So, I did the same thing except that I sealed off where the cloth bag attaches in order to save space. I mounted the cartridge and spin section horizontally on the ceiling to save more space. Works perfectly. I rarely have anything at all catch in the pleated filter.
Thanks for sharing Brian. I've actually given thought to doing that but wasn't sure how well it would work. Good to know that it works well.
Veeeery useful.. thanks!
You convinced me. Just bought a super dust deputy and 2 dust deputies from Amazon. Would have used your link, but I didn’t see one.
I'm sure you'll like them Pam. They definitely make a big difference in collection efficiency and keeping filters clean. I don't think I had links in the video but I do in the blog article that goes with the video. If you're ever looking for links again, my website is always the best place to find them. Always appreciate the support👍
very nice video.
I , like you, used 4" duct work in my small shop. The dust control was terrible. I read on RUclips that you should never use 4" duct as it kills the CFM. So I removed it and replaced the duct work with 6" PVC, S/D I ran the new 6" all the way from the blower to the machines. I also removed the twin 4" duplex covering the 6" inlet to the blower. This made a big difference in dust collection but I still felt it was not enough CFM. So I opened the stock 4" inlet to the saw etc. and attached the 6" duct to the new opening. This again made a huge difference in CFM. You should try this. My blower has a 14" impeller if you have a 10" impeller it will clog the duct work. If I had it to do over I would use a 15" impeller to start with. I'm thinking I can add a 15" impeller as the motor is still not fully loaded as tested with an ammeter. Check the amps on your motor. You probably are not even close to the max amps.as written on the motor case. Increasing duct size will increase the amps. If you pull to many amps a plywood restriction can be added to the blower inlet to avoid burning the motor up.
show, very well !
Enjoyed this very much. In your background is the tool whose dust I haven't had success with: the chop saw. Its movement defeats my efforts - I can't keep anything close-fitting.
+David Kenagy glad you enjoyed the episode. Did you see the episode that I just did on the dust collection upgrades to my Bosch Axial Glide miter saw? That may give you some help with your miter saw dust collection.
Good video Dan. Not sure if you see these comments on old videos, but here goes... I got the smaller dust deputy unit some time back and secured it to a large plastic garbage bin. It was well sealed and so on. I was using a larger Craftsman shop vac to power the set up and found, to my dismay, that the filter on the vac was still constantly getting clogged up; not much different than before without the cyclone. Do you suppose the vacuum I was using was just too powerful for the little cyclone? I have been trying to reason this out and haven't come up with a satisfactory answer/solution. Anyway, always enjoy your videos. Thanks for your efforts. Cheers.
As far as I know the power of the shop vac shouldn't cause that issue. I've had dust get by my small Dust Deputy before when I had an air leak where the cyclone joins to the lid of the bucket. If everything is air tight then I'm not sure what would be causing that. The only thing that sounds like it is different with your setup is the size of the garbage bin. I use the standard 5 gallon bucket with my setup.
Thanks Dan, very informative video, Why did you choose to have multiple dust collection systems in your shop, versus having flexible hose extension and port adapters for your bench top tools?
Thanks
The main reason I use two systems is that you get optimal performance that way. A portable dust extractor has a higher velocity air flow which works better with smaller diameter hoses and ports. If you try and step down to those diameters from say a 4" line from the big dust collector, you lose a lot of velocity and reduce the effectiveness. Basically the dust collector provides high volume air flow and the extractor provides high velocity at a lower volume.
Interesting video and it covered many aspects of dust extraction.
Do you find any necessity to ground your dust collection system? I noticed on one of your photographs of a commercial system, which had metal pipes, do you really need to ground them?
thanks
+icespeckledhens for the kind of system I have in my shop I haven't found any need to ground it. The larger systems that I've set up in other shops were metal and were self grounding. There are different schools of thought on grounding but some people ground their plastic pipe DC systems.
Dan, have you done any dust collection improvements to the delta bandsaw that I see you have in the background of this video?
No I haven't made any dust collection upgrades to the bandsaw. I've found that the stock setup works decent with a good dust extractor hooked up to it.
Doesn't the felt bag on the bottom negate the filtration value of the canister on top? You are letting the 1 micron filters out the bottom, and then a HEPA canister on top restricting down to a smaller micron size.
+Chris H the canister filter on the top is a lower end model and doesn't actually have a HEPA rating which is why I was ok with using the bag filter on the bottom. If the canister filter was HEPA rated I would have been less inclined to put the felt bag on the bottom since like you said the filtration isn't as good. I always wear a P100 rated dust respirator when working in the shop so I haven't been overly concerned about having full HEPA rated filters on the DC but I wouldn't mind upgrading at some point. Over time a thin cake of fine dust builds up on the inside of the felt bag which helps somewhat with filtering the fine dust too. You're definitely right though. I just find that the boost in suction power is worth it for me given that I'm not dealing with a HEPA rated top filter anyway.
I would like to know what brand your pants are. They look pretty useful.
They are the Blaklader Brawny pants
Your setup will allow a significant amount of fine wood particles to enter your breathing environment. I suggest incorporating the plastic bag or use a respirator during usage.
+joel Mckenzie you're right, when it comes to super fine particles neither of the filters on the 1 HP collector capture them all. The reason I was ok with using the felt bag is the top filter is a cheaper model and isn't HEPA rated anyway. I always wear a P100 rated dust respirator when I'm working in the shop to protect my lungs from the super fine dust which is why I'm not as concerned about the filtration level of the DC filters. As one of the other viewers pointed out in another comment the filtration of fine dust does improve when a cake of fine dust builds up on the inside of the felt bag. Also where the bag hangs upside down that cake of dust never gets shaken off like when the bag is mounted on top so it stays there until it builds up too much and needs to be taken off and cleaned.
Idea: add a small vacuum hose between your metal trash can and the dust collector intake port, the vacuum line should then be at a lower pressure than the inside of the can thus keeping the bag from getting sucked inwards. A camera or plexiglass view-port in the wood can lid would insure this is working correctly. It's all about pressure-equalization.
+Joseph Malovich that's a very interesting idea. If I get a chance I'll give that a try. Thanks for sharing.
I am looking for a way to connect my dust deputy to my miter saw, but I can't seem to figure out what size hose I need! Please help?
+CJ Phillips what kind of miter saw do you have?
Really nice and concise.
Danpaterson Question I can't seem to find an answer to: for tools with small dust ports, is it better to use a 4" hose to a reducer adapter, or just use smaller hose on shop vac?
For tools with a smaller dust port you are better off using a smaller hose with a shop vac. When you step down a 4" line from a dust collector you lose a lot of velocity.
real woodshops are never clean.
j/k... great clean shops are an envy!
Lovely bosch gaz 35. One of my favorite vaccums💞💖❤💗💕. Is it Class "L" "M" "H"?
Dan, where did you find the reusable felt filter bag for your bosch vac?
+EJ Wu
I got it from Amazon. I'll put the link below. I use disposable bags
when working on site and my reusable bag when working in the shop.
amzn.to/2hlgFMR
that press-drill is rocks
+Attila Szabo the Ridgid drill press?
i did't recognised the brand. But based on the orange color, thats the one. :)
+Attila Szabo it's a great drill press, I've been very happy with it.
Where do you get those pants at..
I need them!
+UnkinglyLike they are the Blaklader Brawny pants. You can buy them from all different online retailers. I usually buy mine at a local store called Murphy Gear.
Hi Dan, curious weather the bag filter on the bottom would filter down as finely as the pleated top canister?
It wouldn't filter quite as fine I don't think but the top filter isn't HEPA so I don't think there is a big difference between them.
Your smaller Dust Deputy has two buckets. Are they too thin to use single? Will a single HomeDepot bucket collapse?
+Jeffrey Wong no one bucket will work but the kit comes with two so that one has the wheels on the bottom and is attached to the vac and the other just lifts out of it for easy dust disposal
Have you considered connecting your tools with a 2-inch dust port to the 4-inch hose you use in your stationary system, by way of an adaptor? I would have thought that your dust collector with the 1 hp motor would create more suction than either the Bosch or the Shop Vac.
+Lyle Hough you actually get less efficient collection if you step down a 4" line to a 2" since it doesn't give enough velocity. Without getting into all the physics of it, a 1HP collector with a 4" line will move more CFM but a shop vac or dust extractor will give more velocity in the smaller 2" line which is what you need.
Thank you. As you can probably guess, I do not understand the physics of it. I will take your word for it and continue to use my Shop Vac for the tools with smaller ports. I still have lots of dust, but I am approaching it one tool at a time.
Thanks for the info.
Also, just in case you didn't know, there was some feedback is buzzing in a few parts of your video?
+imakeandimprove Yeah that was the last video that I shot with my old mic and it was having some issues. I've since upgraded and replaced it with a wireless mic system which is much better quality.
Dan Pattison nice! Never stop, never stopping! lol
I’m really enjoying your videos. I see you have a Delta table saw. What model and do you recommend it? Looking to spend $500-$750. Other recommendations?
Glad to hear you're enjoying the videos 👍 The table saw I have is an older Delta Platinum edition contractors saw. It is 20 years old so you definitely can't buy one new anymore. I'm not sure what the best saws in that price range are as far as new models but a lot of the older Delta models are pretty good if you can find one second hand. If I was to buy a new table saw I would probably get one of the Sawstop models although they are fairly expensive. I have a Dewalt portable table saw that I use on job sites and it works well for me. Hopefully that is of some help to you.
Great ideas. I got distracted from time to time with the Canadian accent..lol. But Good info.
Wait - youve used a 1 micron filter above them, presumably a 5 micron felt bag below?
I don't think the canister is even rated at 1 micron. It's not a high end filter by any means. Ideally it would be a HEPA filter. I'm not overly concerned about the filters though since I always wear a P100 dust respirator when I'm working in the shop.
Lots of great information. Prices would have been very helpful.
Prices vary widely between countries and retailers so it's hard to really give relevant prices on things.
Would you find it more helpful if your shopvac and bucket were also mounted on a small cart with wheels? Like a moving cart?
I've found that it works well with the shop vac and bucket strapped together and wheels on each of them. I've seen carts before for a setup like that but so far haven't really found the need for one since it moves around easily as is.
Great video Dan, very informative! My only criticism would be your use of the cloth collection bag on the Craftex dust collector. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that by using the cloth collection bag instead of the plastic bag, you're defeating the purpose of the 1 micron cannister filter. The cloth bag would allow larger particles of dust back into the shop, whereas the plastic bag would allow none to escape - all air/dust would have to go through the cannister.
The canister on the top isn't a 1 micron but if it was you would be completely right. The canister is a cheaper one which I think has a 5 micron rating which is why I've never been concerned about using the felt bag on the bottom. I always wear a P100 dust respirator when I'm working in the shop so I'm not super concerned about the filtration on my collector. For me it's more about keeping things tidier in the shop when I'm working which the extra air flow helps with. Ideally I would use a hepa canister top and bottom.
@@DPShopTalk I was about to pose the same question, so it looks like I have to keep the plastic bag on the bottom. It's not collecting a lot of dust anyway!
Hi Dan, I am building a DC system with a shop vac and I have the same dust deputy cyclone. I know Oneida sells an adaptor for the 2" outlet on the cyclone to work with a 2.5" DC hose, but it doesn't seem like you are using the adaptor. How did you connect your 2.5" hose to the cyclone directly? Thanks.
+Royal Poison the hose that I use has 2 1/4" ends on it and will plug directly onto the dust deputy. I'll put the link below for the hose that I use.
www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=62603&cat=1,42401,62604,62603
Thank you. Really appreciate your help. Great videos btw and super clean shop!
+Royal Poison thanks!
I have a strange question. I just bought a Bosch dust extractor based on your review you posted. I also bought the newer dust deputy 2.5 as a separator when it’s in my shop to cut down on buying bags. I didn’t realize the end of the hose (that plugs into the extractor) has a locking mechanism tab that prevents me from being able to insert it into the dust deputy for a friction fit. Do you know if they make any couplers that can accept this little tab for the locking mechanism?
The Dust Deputy must have changed then. My Bosch dust hose fits over the inlet of the Dust Deputy with no issues. I'm not aware of any adapter though unfortunately.
@@DPShopTalk Yeah, the newer dust DD has larger ports for better airflow now. I ended up just getting a Fernco pipe coupler and it worked fine. Thanks for replying.
what bosch router did you get the dust collector from
+robert newton the dust shroud works on the Bosch 1617 router. I'll put the link below.
amzn.to/2AlKl53
Hey what’s the brand and model of
Those pants. I like those I think I need to pick up a pair or two.
Those are the Blaklader Brawny pants.
Is it worth it for me to make a dust separater for my 3 hp shop vac? Or should I get a more powerful shop vac
A dust separator is always a help regardless of the size of the vac or collector. It helps keep filters from getting clogged.
Does anyone else use an old Dyson vacuum in the workshop? This has a cyclone and filters. I just wonder what others think?
+Bulwul that's a great question. I've never used a Dyson vac but I'm interested to see what others have to say.
Dan,
Off topic, but where did you get those pipe clamps hanging on the wall. I can't find them anywhere!
The red pipe clamps or the orange pipe clamps?
@@DPShopTalk the longer ones (can't remember color)
The longest clamps are the older Bessey K body clamps. They don't make that version anymore but they do have newer versions.
@@DPShopTalk Thanks Dan!
Hi Dan i am searching the whole internet regarding a question and i can not find any answer. Its about a kind of Table saw surface. I am just buying a table saw right now, and there is something i don't know i should avoid it or go for it. Most of the table saw surfaces are smooth and flat. But there are some which has a kind of fluted surface. I am not sure what the purpose, advantage or even disadvantage of those flutes. Maybe its just to reduce the weight, or its a kind of sawdust trap? i have no idea. Is you, or anybody else here have experience with that kind of table saw surface?
the Ryobi BT3000 has exactly the same design of the surface for example
+Attila Szabo the purpose of a top with grooves in it like that is to reduce friction by reducing surface area and also avoid any suction to the surface if you have a material that is flat and making perfect contact with the saw top. It's the same concept as hand planes that have a corrugated sole. Having said that pretty much all stationary table saws have flat cast iron tops and work just fine so I wouldn't put too much priority on that when choosing a saw. Any saw top will work well if you wax it or use a product like Top Coat spray. Hope that helps.
Yes, your answer was pretty quick and helpful, thank you. No i was not looking for this kind of "feature" at all. Its just how the saw top is. I was afraid of disadvantages, but now i understand and i am ok with it. Tanks a lot again.
big fan of delta i see.
Yeah I bought a lot of Delta gear back in the day when it was still well made.
@@DPShopTalk what brand do you go for now?
I still have my Delta stationary equipment but for portable equipment I go for Bosch and Milwaukee.
favorite words "as well"
You don't realize how often you use a word or group of words until you record yourself and watch it back. I seem to like to use "now" and "so" a lot too. I never notice it in everyday conversations but notice it in my videos.
Woodworking is one of those industries where you can be meticulously clean, or you can be fast - but you cant be both. Personally I do all I can to collect as much dust as I go, make a right royal mess and clean up at the end of the day. I've seen fellas spend half their day cleaning and putting away every single tool every time they use it (even when they know they will need it again in 5 mins). Its nice, but you get very little done.
If you have good dust collection setups then working clean doesn't take much extra time. I find that I save time in the end and can do a job faster with good dust collection setups since I spend far less time in between jobs cleaning up. I don't generally put tools away unless I know that I'm done with them for the whole job. I've worked and made big messes and I've worked clean and I've found working clean is much more efficient overall. Clients really appreciate it when I'm working on site and work clean and it helps me get more work with repeat clients and referrals.
In my two car garage shop I put all the dust making machines near double garage. door half. Each time I finish for day ;I use blower to blowout and clean machines.I have cyclone collection but its impossible to get all the dust collected. Its also the first thing I do before starting next day. Because fine dust is still in the air that settles not collected either way. Best to wear good dust mask with some no matter what.
+David Davis that's great having the ability to blow the dust outside. My shop had a double garage door but I seldom opened it. My new shop is twice the size and actually has an overhead door at each end which will work great for blowing dust out occasionally. You're right that wearing a good dust mask is important no matter how good your dust collection is.
This was posted 2 years ago....would you change anything now?
No I wouldn't really change anything. I've actually moved shop spaces since this video and I've set up my dust collection pretty much the same as it was before since it works well for me. If you're interested in seeing the new shop space you can check out the new shop tour below.
ruclips.net/video/bg98NZPLkBM/видео.html
@@DPShopTalk THANKS!!!
Link to cyclone?
If you check out my blog article that goes along with the video you'll find all the links there:
www.danpattison.com/blog/2016/11/29/small-shop-dust-collection-solutions
Why would you have a portable table saw as well as a cabinet saw?
I use the portable table saw on job sites and the stationary saw in the shop. The vast majority of my work is on site but most times now I use my track saw for making rip cuts on site.
@@DPShopTalk cool thanks for the reply
Great video describing your comprehensive approach to woodworking! I was curious about the small dust collector on your drill press. Did you make it yourself? I've seen parts that look similar, but am scratching my head about how to hook them up to larger diameter dust hoses.
The detail is great as is the "theory." For example, you describe different tools and how and why you use particular dust collectors for them. For how important this is, there is often only lip service paid to it by manufacturers of tools, especially for hobbyist woodworkers. You've inspired me to begin to wear a dust mask when I'm in my shop.
Have you seen the Resp-o-rator? Here's video ruclips.net/video/6e20RahnaNg/видео.html I've got one and now will put it to more use. I may modify it for P100 filters.
+kbwoodworker thanks. The gizmo on the side of my drill press is actually a blower that hooks up to the compressor. I don't use it very often but there are times when it's handy to have a gentle flow of air when drilling certain things. For dust collection at the drill press I have a magnetic dust chute that I use with a 2 1/4" hose.
I've never seen the Resp-o-rator before but I just took a look at it. That's a cool idea. How comfortable do you find it? I used to have a beard but got rid of it since you can't get a good seal with a mask.
I've been using the Resp-o-rator Jr most. You can see it on the Hartville Tool website, I didn't see a youtube video of one. I think the regular Resp-o-rator (senior?) does a better job, but the Jr is extremely easy to use, which means I use it more. I like both Jr and Sr better than regular dust masks. They are not hot in the summer and don't steam up glasses/goggles. To me, both are much more comfortable than regular masks. The only downside of the regular Resp-o-rator is that it's drippy (saliva). But I prefer them to other masks for comfort. Wearing glasses or glasses/goggles, hearing earmuffs, and a mask together is always a challenge.
I'll probably adapt them both to use the P100 3M filters as shown in the video.
TV quality production and presentation. Along those lines, my only suggestion: Resist smacking your lips. In any case, please more videos and jigs and homemade tools. You have a unique touch.
+Jason J. Ayala P. Thanks very much for the feedback, I really appreciate it. I've noticed the tongue clicking/lip smacking too and I've tried to get rid of it but haven't been able to yet. I'm physically tongue tied so that could have something to do with it.
By the way fine dust is also very explosive,
True, another good reason to keep it out of the air.
If you're using that cloth bag as a filter you are allowing fine dust to exhaust into your shop. So fine you can't see. Use a plastic bag.
Wasted $$ on the pleated filter if it's the same 1 micron that Craftex claims they are for both,could have used 2 bags instead.
I bought the collector second hand and it came with the pleated filter. I do like having the rigid canister type filter on top since it doesn't flop around like the bags do.
I have that exact same drill press. Just saying...
It's a good drill press. It's too bad they dont make it anymore.
@@DPShopTalk : Bought mine on Craigslist about ten years ago for $100 from a guy who tried starting a business, but the business never got off the ground, so the drill press had still never even been used when he sold it to me. One of the best deals on a tool I've ever gotten.
That's a great deal👍 I bought mine new about 9 years ago and I think I paid around $300
Your not getting the efficiency you need with that felt bag. Small micron dust is getting into your shop and lungs. Put the clear bag back on and if needed, get a more powerful motor (2HP).
I always wear a dust respirator when I'm working in the shop so I'm not worried about breathing in any fine dust that makes it past the filters. The top filter isn't a HEPA filter so neither filter is going to get super fine dust but the filtration of the fine dust does get better as the filters load up a little bit. At some point I might upgrade the filters but for the amount of time that I'm in the shop lately it works for now. By far the majority of my work lately has been on-site.
I think it is worth moving the collection system outside. Vent your air outside and your filter bags or filter's small micron capture becomes irrelevant. Downside, hot shop air will be pulled out. But like OP, the super fine dust that is important to capture, moves past your cyclone into the cloth bag and then out the bag into the shop air. Smart, as u noted, wearing your 3m mask.
@@brandtl1486 having the dust collector outside would be great but definitely not practical in the climate I live in. In the winter I would lose all my heat and in the summer it would end up drawing in all the humid air from outside. From a fine dust standpoint it would definitely be the way to go though.
there's a lot of sources of suction in your shop but i think your forgetting the main one that sucks. .
and I just work outside
Stationery and stationary are not the same.
+Scott Baker you're exactly right, thanks for pointing that out. I never even noticed that it was the wrong spelling. I'll have to have a word with my video production editor ;)
LOL... no worries, mate. Just thought you'd like to know. Should've PM'd you, really.
Felt bag in the bottom? Sure way to defeat the purpose of a canister filter indeed.
Nice. But I would point out that by using a cloth bag below the pleated filter, you are reducing the effectiveness of catching the harmful fine dust in the air. The blower directs the air and fine dust from the Dust Deputy into the cloth bag and then up to the pleated filter. So you have effectively reduced what the pleated filter was designed to do. There is adequate flow through the pleated surface of that filter to not reduce the suction of your unit. The cloth bag becomes the “weakest link” and allows more fine dust into your shop.
That's true but the pleated filter is not a high quality one and isn't HEPA rated so I've never been too concerned about the bag. If the pleated filter was a HEPA unit then I would definitely not use the bag on the bottom because that would defeat the purpose. I always wear a P100 dust respirator when I'm working in the shop so I'm not too worried about breathing in the fine dust that might make its way through the filters. You're completely right though about the bag being the weakest link.
Maybe just a nitpick, but you pronounce Oneida as oh-Nigh-da not oh-Knee-da. Thanks for the video.
+John Oakes thanks. I wondered after I did the video if I was pronouncing it right.
How do you pronounce BEAUFORT, as in N.C. and S.C.?
By putting the filter bag below the canister filter instead of a non-porous plastic bag you are defeating the benefit of the canister filter. The canister filter may remove all but 0.5 micron particles, but the best filter bags can only remove up to 10 microns. You may get more air going through your sysrem, but you have more dust going into your shop.
+Paul Anderson you're right, the filter bags aren't as efficient at getting the super fine particles. The reason that I was ok with doing this setup is that the canister filter is a cheaper model and isn't HEPA rated so the actual filtration capability of it is questionable. I let a bit of a cake of fine dust build up on the inside of the filter bag which helps somewhat in capturing the fine particles too. In the end I always wear a P100 rated dust respirator when working in the shop so my lungs are protected against the really fine dust. So until I can afford a filter upgrade to a true HEPA system this setup has been working well for me. If I had a true HEPA canister filter on the top then the bag on the bottom wouldn't make much sense since it would defeat the purpose like you said.
I purchased a PowerTek 1 micron bag for my Harbor Freight 2HP dust collector - not being satisfied with the 5 micron bag that came with it.
Stationary, not stationery. Unless you want to send someone some snail mail...
Lol that's what I said...must just be my Canadian accent eh😉
nerd!
haha this guy doesnt do any real woodworking, not a single scuff or scratch on his benches!!!
Thanks Dan. Very useful.
+Mark Feliciano glad you found it helpful Mark.