Made a change to ads on long-form. YT gives me 3 options, it defaulted to "moderate" but looking at the ads it looks absolutely insane. Future live stream are now set to "conservative" the lowest ad amount YT gives as an option. Deleted a bunch of adds manually on this stream replay specifically.
I'm still finishing the first tutorial quests but cant wait to jump to a dungeon, they look so fun, like most people if they see the gameplay they may think they are super boring but I am pretty sure they have that magic charm of old school mmo that makes them so enjoyable. Also I am playing enchanter and the enchanter gameplay seems so different in comparison to more traditional roles that I can't wait to try!
Definitely has that old school charm! Ans the enchanter is going to be a lot like the roll I'm playing here on the necro. You're essential. You can get your first taste of dungeons in the goblin caves. Then it's halnir then it's mad run then hanggore. But soon we'll also be getting black rose keep, another dungeon!
Dude I was VERY critical of this game .. and Played like 4 or 5 class/race combos .. and then I made a Halfling ranger ... and NOW this is MY game ... this game is awesome .... I will be cancelling my sub to WoW , as it has grown stale and caters to the solo player .... I want a GROUP mmo ... this game has SERIOUS potential ...I always played a Shadowknight / Shaman class. I have NEVER played a Ranger NOR a halfling combo .. and I was like "Hmm lets try it ... since it's "new" and OMFG THIS IS WHAT I HAVE NEEDED IN MY MMO LIFE .... the *SEEMLESS* transition between ranged and melee .. THIS IS WHAT EACH mmo needs to do with their "ranger" class ... It is SO intuitive it's DUMB ... I LOVE IT ! I cancelled WoW sub, I stopped/stalled playing POE 2 ( which is also an *amazing* game , it's my side game NOW, similar genre I will say , but not at all the same , I know ... ) And I was a Black Rose pledge X2 for this game TEN years ago.... and I am NOT a shill ... I dogged this game ALOT ... and I am a EQ and EQ 2 vet ... still love both ... but if you are a EQ fan of EITHER .. you must at least TRY this .. if you cannot afford the 40$ EA I get it . Economy SUCKS ass atm .. but if and when you can ... try it, but do NOT try the usual class you play ... unless you are a HARDCORE necro fan or Ranger fan .. ( I have yet to make a necro, which is ALWAYS my MAIN class, and I have YET to make one for this, contradictory, to my aforementioned comment of SK/Shammy comment ... give it a chance .. I want this game to actually succeed, prior to my previous thoughts and or comments and or mannerisms ( being selfish, I want to actually EXPLORE this world ...) I say this being a SUB to WoW sine it came out , and also since EQ2 came out ... which was a month difference and I played BOTH religiously .. like RELIGIOUSLY ...I was a world second American shaman in a competitive guild ... and have seen almost EVERYTHING in EQ 1 and 2 .. and I have dumped all 3 PLUS PoE 1/2 for this game ... ( My friends are PISSED, but I need *FUN* ) If you can afford it, try it... and give it MORE than 2 hours worth a try (steam users) ... It's a revamped updated classic MMORPG , that FOCUSES on the HOLY trinity, and SOCIAL aspects .... which was MEANT TO BE! Wanna solo ? pass on by please, and DO NOT leave a "negative" review, it's NOT meant for you ... this is meant for SOCIAL players who want to group up and have fun and bullsh!t with people as they play .. it's slow and NOT slow in an aspect .. it's HARD to put into perspective unless you played OG Eq and EQ2 .. and loved OG WoW to a degree, but slower still .. I seen lots of POSITIVE reviews with people saying it was refunded and not for them, which is UNCOMMON! But makes sense. It's nostalgia UPDATED. Again, I spread a lot of hate for this game in it's early aspects, and I have made a full roll, a full 180 degree turn ... and am enjoying this game MUCH MORE THEN I EVER EXPECTED! I was literally spreading "hate" for the game , and I am going thru and deleting what I can where I can ... I was ignorant , and I feel bad for being that ignorant ...
This actually looks decent. How is the volume of content, is there a full game or even half of a full game of content? Or is it just pockets of content like this?
Hm...I'd say 25% to 50%? There's a ton of content to play. Like you'll have potentially hundreds of hours depending on how much you grind or rush but you wouldn't have thousands of hours most likely unless you play alts. Content up to lvl 40. 6 big zones but it is still in early access so there's work to be done. Given their cadence over the last year id expect the game size to double by the end of 2025 because they went from 1 zone to 6 zones through 2024
I find 1-13 is far faster Solo (with buffs). I got Necro to 12, Summoner 13, Paladin 12 in about 6 hours (each) I got Shammy to 15 in like 3 days with Grouping, some solo. Some thing I feel that would benefit Grouping in general is FFXI Chains. You gain bonus exp on EM mobs and above with each successful pull within being pulled in a certain time which goes down as you get higher in chains and exp goes up. Til eventually it resets, because you can't pull fast enough.
They've talked about that specifically. The chains. But the downside is that encourages spam killing (like wow) which isn't what they're going for. They want meaningful ttk. But they're working on some exp refinements.
@@Redbeardflynn I'm not quite sure I understand. XI was 100% group reliant, and you couldn't kill anything solo. Here, you couldn't kill an EM fast enough to break even 1 Chain solo. (Have only party Mobs give the bonus) RIght now, it's a group oriented game where you level much faster solo (Depending on Class). Not to mention, WoW and XI are nothing alike. WoW and XIV sure. You do the same thing in Pantheon you would do in old school XI. Sit at a camp and pull the same mob over and over for hours. There is no spam killing, so I am unsure what they were mentioning. It just incentives good group play. And my other concern is; They'll need to introduce level sync. So that higher players can sync down to lower folks and group up, as of now; unless you're in a big guild or on Blackmoon, you ain't getting a party around 14-19 at least not for hours at a time. Edit: While I love Pantheon and have waited for 10 years to play, we people are very, very few, and w/o measures put in to help people group together (the half +1 is awkward, and imo, not greatly done) then the game will slowly dwindle as people can only solo in a group oriented game. Just my thoughts.
@@BrokenCydeDF No no, not alking about group v solo. Talking about TTK or time to kill. Chains, that is, killing things faster which some other games have done as well, encourage spamming through mobs rather then individual encounters that are more challenging. And yes, a mentor system is planned for the game, I've personally pushed hard for it.
@@Redbeardflynn It's not TTK though, it's time between kills(TBK). Your chain counter starts as soon as you kill the mob. 30 seconds to grab next mob (chain 1) 25 Seconds to get next (chain 2) and so on. (Poor example, it's fairly easy to lose a chain and while it sucks, it's accepted.) Give you an example; Bard runs out, grabs Manor Mob, group gets it and starts killing it. Mob is around 25% Bard has brought another mob, and has it mezzed and awaiting the party to grab it. Repeat (Although this tends to work many different ways) It gives incentives to well thought out party play as well as gives a wider roll for everyone to play while making sure they're managing systems for the best outcomes. Risk vs Reward. There is nothing detrimental to having it, while giving slight boost to exp gained for "playing well". I think in it's hay-day FFXI was far more Group Oriented then EQ, and by far Pantheon. It's just something I was talking to about with my Guildies and everyone thought it was a great idea. (Some even knew, from playing XI and agreed, it would be an excellent addition.) I'm all for the Journey, specially in a game where there is nothing at the end. It took me a year and a half to get my Summoner from 1-75 back in the day playing 12 hours or so a day. (I was a nerd, and still am) Anywho! I know it's not going to happen but Jabba has stated he still felt Soloing wasn't rewarding enough or where he felt it should be (Maybe I misread and he is saying it's to rewarding. I forget lol), and I am saying the opposite. At least at the levels I've tested. It has gotten slightly better with a well formed group of people who know how to play however. (I'm aware that in XI TTK did matter to an extent, but I am not suggesting that. As my Manor group tonight was killing yellow/orange mobs in about 45-55 seconds anyways)
Also the HP etc should be switched to numbers so screen can be seen more and npc etc the name plates fixed and when you're casting they should put a aura under your feet going upwards with your hands that way it would look more better❤
I really love your content, BUT at the same time, I don't want to see things that I have not found myself. I like not knowing what is around the next corner 😂.
But this game shows promise if they upgrade those things also bring it to consoles that should boost the graphic detail and stuff too if they looking to get more money
To make this game really good thy need a bard' dancer or something to refresh mana also combat images need to be fixed cuz it look like you'r not even hitting anything
I mean it's enjoy it. But it's got a specific target audience who enjoy a slower paced more challenging social mmo. It's also still in early access so it's incomplete.
Made a change to ads on long-form. YT gives me 3 options, it defaulted to "moderate" but looking at the ads it looks absolutely insane. Future live stream are now set to "conservative" the lowest ad amount YT gives as an option. Deleted a bunch of adds manually on this stream replay specifically.
So far I’ve loved pantheon still figuring out what class to play; also wish anyone I knew was doing it - would love to play with folks
We're on the stormona server and have some friendly people in the guild Oathsworn. Some other really great guilds over here, too.
Awesome, I’m not very far on any character so I’ll just reroll over there!
love the game ! thanks for your energy , love and commitment :)
Thank you so much for your kindness! I'm glad you're enjoying the game!
Really great stream. You both paired as a team so well but admit it Basket was the star. Personally, thank you for the mention- I teared up.
@Redbeardflynn you are still my favorite. Don't tell her though.
I'm still finishing the first tutorial quests but cant wait to jump to a dungeon, they look so fun, like most people if they see the gameplay they may think they are super boring but I am pretty sure they have that magic charm of old school mmo that makes them so enjoyable.
Also I am playing enchanter and the enchanter gameplay seems so different in comparison to more traditional roles that I can't wait to try!
Definitely has that old school charm! Ans the enchanter is going to be a lot like the roll I'm playing here on the necro. You're essential. You can get your first taste of dungeons in the goblin caves. Then it's halnir then it's mad run then hanggore.
But soon we'll also be getting black rose keep, another dungeon!
Goblins are intense just wrapped the bottom floor it was no joke, manor is great loot and comparatively low effort
Dude I was VERY critical of this game .. and Played like 4 or 5 class/race combos .. and then I made a Halfling ranger ... and NOW this is MY game ... this game is awesome .... I will be cancelling my sub to WoW , as it has grown stale and caters to the solo player .... I want a GROUP mmo ... this game has SERIOUS potential ...I always played a Shadowknight / Shaman class. I have NEVER played a Ranger NOR a halfling combo .. and I was like "Hmm lets try it ... since it's "new" and OMFG THIS IS WHAT I HAVE NEEDED IN MY MMO LIFE .... the *SEEMLESS* transition between ranged and melee .. THIS IS WHAT EACH mmo needs to do with their "ranger" class ... It is SO intuitive it's DUMB ... I LOVE IT !
I cancelled WoW sub, I stopped/stalled playing POE 2 ( which is also an *amazing* game , it's my side game NOW, similar genre I will say , but not at all the same , I know ... )
And I was a Black Rose pledge X2 for this game TEN years ago.... and I am NOT a shill ... I dogged this game ALOT ... and I am a EQ and EQ 2 vet ... still love both ... but if you are a EQ fan of EITHER .. you must at least TRY this .. if you cannot afford the 40$ EA I get it . Economy SUCKS ass atm .. but if and when you can ... try it, but do NOT try the usual class you play ... unless you are a HARDCORE necro fan or Ranger fan .. ( I have yet to make a necro, which is ALWAYS my MAIN class, and I have YET to make one for this, contradictory, to my aforementioned comment of SK/Shammy comment ... give it a chance .. I want this game to actually succeed, prior to my previous thoughts and or comments and or mannerisms ( being selfish, I want to actually EXPLORE this world ...)
I say this being a SUB to WoW sine it came out , and also since EQ2 came out ... which was a month difference and I played BOTH religiously .. like RELIGIOUSLY ...I was a world second American shaman in a competitive guild ... and have seen almost EVERYTHING in EQ 1 and 2 .. and I have dumped all 3 PLUS PoE 1/2 for this game ... ( My friends are PISSED, but I need *FUN* )
If you can afford it, try it... and give it MORE than 2 hours worth a try (steam users) ...
It's a revamped updated classic MMORPG , that FOCUSES on the HOLY trinity, and SOCIAL aspects .... which was MEANT TO BE! Wanna solo ? pass on by please, and DO NOT leave a "negative" review, it's NOT meant for you ... this is meant for SOCIAL players who want to group up and have fun and bullsh!t with people as they play .. it's slow and NOT slow in an aspect .. it's HARD to put into perspective unless you played OG Eq and EQ2 .. and loved OG WoW to a degree, but slower still .. I seen lots of POSITIVE reviews with people saying it was refunded and not for them, which is UNCOMMON! But makes sense.
It's nostalgia UPDATED. Again, I spread a lot of hate for this game in it's early aspects, and I have made a full roll, a full 180 degree turn ... and am enjoying this game MUCH MORE THEN I EVER EXPECTED! I was literally spreading "hate" for the game , and I am going thru and deleting what I can where I can ... I was ignorant , and I feel bad for being that ignorant ...
I'm glad to hear you're having so much fun 🙂
Just finished a 10 hour stream of goblin stomping myself.
This actually looks decent. How is the volume of content, is there a full game or even half of a full game of content? Or is it just pockets of content like this?
Hm...I'd say 25% to 50%? There's a ton of content to play. Like you'll have potentially hundreds of hours depending on how much you grind or rush but you wouldn't have thousands of hours most likely unless you play alts. Content up to lvl 40. 6 big zones but it is still in early access so there's work to be done. Given their cadence over the last year id expect the game size to double by the end of 2025 because they went from 1 zone to 6 zones through 2024
@@Redbeardflynn Very nice, perhaps I will take a look!
I find 1-13 is far faster Solo (with buffs). I got Necro to 12, Summoner 13, Paladin 12 in about 6 hours (each) I got Shammy to 15 in like 3 days with Grouping, some solo.
Some thing I feel that would benefit Grouping in general is FFXI Chains. You gain bonus exp on EM mobs and above with each successful pull within being pulled in a certain time which goes down as you get higher in chains and exp goes up. Til eventually it resets, because you can't pull fast enough.
They've talked about that specifically. The chains. But the downside is that encourages spam killing (like wow) which isn't what they're going for. They want meaningful ttk. But they're working on some exp refinements.
@@Redbeardflynn I'm not quite sure I understand. XI was 100% group reliant, and you couldn't kill anything solo. Here, you couldn't kill an EM fast enough to break even 1 Chain solo. (Have only party Mobs give the bonus)
RIght now, it's a group oriented game where you level much faster solo (Depending on Class). Not to mention, WoW and XI are nothing alike. WoW and XIV sure. You do the same thing in Pantheon you would do in old school XI. Sit at a camp and pull the same mob over and over for hours. There is no spam killing, so I am unsure what they were mentioning.
It just incentives good group play.
And my other concern is; They'll need to introduce level sync. So that higher players can sync down to lower folks and group up, as of now; unless you're in a big guild or on Blackmoon, you ain't getting a party around 14-19 at least not for hours at a time.
Edit: While I love Pantheon and have waited for 10 years to play, we people are very, very few, and w/o measures put in to help people group together (the half +1 is awkward, and imo, not greatly done) then the game will slowly dwindle as people can only solo in a group oriented game. Just my thoughts.
@@BrokenCydeDF No no, not alking about group v solo. Talking about TTK or time to kill. Chains, that is, killing things faster which some other games have done as well, encourage spamming through mobs rather then individual encounters that are more challenging.
And yes, a mentor system is planned for the game, I've personally pushed hard for it.
@@Redbeardflynn It's not TTK though, it's time between kills(TBK). Your chain counter starts as soon as you kill the mob. 30 seconds to grab next mob (chain 1) 25 Seconds to get next (chain 2) and so on. (Poor example, it's fairly easy to lose a chain and while it sucks, it's accepted.)
Give you an example; Bard runs out, grabs Manor Mob, group gets it and starts killing it. Mob is around 25% Bard has brought another mob, and has it mezzed and awaiting the party to grab it. Repeat (Although this tends to work many different ways)
It gives incentives to well thought out party play as well as gives a wider roll for everyone to play while making sure they're managing systems for the best outcomes. Risk vs Reward.
There is nothing detrimental to having it, while giving slight boost to exp gained for "playing well".
I think in it's hay-day FFXI was far more Group Oriented then EQ, and by far Pantheon. It's just something I was talking to about with my Guildies and everyone thought it was a great idea. (Some even knew, from playing XI and agreed, it would be an excellent addition.) I'm all for the Journey, specially in a game where there is nothing at the end. It took me a year and a half to get my Summoner from 1-75 back in the day playing 12 hours or so a day. (I was a nerd, and still am)
Anywho! I know it's not going to happen but Jabba has stated he still felt Soloing wasn't rewarding enough or where he felt it should be (Maybe I misread and he is saying it's to rewarding. I forget lol), and I am saying the opposite. At least at the levels I've tested. It has gotten slightly better with a well formed group of people who know how to play however.
(I'm aware that in XI TTK did matter to an extent, but I am not suggesting that. As my Manor group tonight was killing yellow/orange mobs in about 45-55 seconds anyways)
Also the HP etc should be switched to numbers so screen can be seen more and npc etc the name plates fixed and when you're casting they should put a aura under your feet going upwards with your hands that way it would look more better❤
I really love your content, BUT at the same time, I don't want to see things that I have not found myself. I like not knowing what is around the next corner 😂.
Haha very valid. I watched many of joppas streams at 160p to avoid spoilers
Fun stream!
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed yourself.
Also sub class would be a good idea
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Good content, but holy crap the ads. What are they set to every 3 minutes??
No idea. It's set to "moderate" YT's recommendation.
But this game shows promise if they upgrade those things also bring it to consoles that should boost the graphic detail and stuff too if they looking to get more money
Hate I missed the stream, was at a Christmas party,. Yeh, I know, "socializing" like a normie.....
Haha how dare you have a life! 😅 hope you has a good time
To make this game really good thy need a bard' dancer or something to refresh mana also combat images need to be fixed cuz it look like you'r not even hitting anything
Bard is planned as one of the two remaining classes. Bard + Druid.
Is this game great or mid
I mean it's enjoy it. But it's got a specific target audience who enjoy a slower paced more challenging social mmo. It's also still in early access so it's incomplete.
@ so like EverQuest ?
@SlamDance87 very similar. It's inspired by eq and had 2 of 3 of everquesrs creators working on it: Brad Mcquaid and Steve Clover
Best game since EQ 1