I got this when I saw you using it in a recent video. I was stumped when it came to using it so went back to my grain synth. Now I gottem both popping!!! 🤯🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Testing this thing out, they need to fix the retrigger when the X-sub is introduced...it's not on all the notes, just some. I think that's a bug because the sound is different every time I hit a key...in some cases, it's like half the sound. Not liking that one bit. Kick 2 wins this one again. UPDATE: I contacted FAW about adding phase reset after writing the above comment, and they confirmed it will be in the first update coming out "very very soon"...and, they replied within a few hours! Freaking great!
This is the most in dept review of this product...you also added tons of jewels and gold nuggets to take your 808s to crazy levels. FAW should have paid you for this overview or link it to their website. It was THAT GOOD. You infeugo bro!!!!!!!!
Got this a couple of weeks ago when MG first have a short review and gave the link from Mr. Different TV that have a discount. This is a more detailed review. Thanks!! This plugin is nice. Well worth the $$
I think what Jason Joshua was talking about was using a plugin like SigMod to divide the frequency spectrum of 808s to different tracks. That way you can have the low of the sups in the middle and the higher part on the sides.
still not sure if i should cop it cuz serum has been working pretty well for me. the beat in the video is super fye tho 🔥 you been snapping on these videos lately.
Bruh....bruh....them jokas just made a real dope plugin. LOL.....I opened an account just for you MG, just so I can point and click after watching your reviews. Gots to have this. LOL...But we need tou to do a video on that free Sonib'e EQ. LOL
Perfectly timed video. I was binging on Rhythm Roulette and thinking I really need to step my 808 game up. So if all I've used for 808's thus far are samples, that I'm not always in love with. Would you recommend getting this to better customize the sound to my liking?
1) Take your favourite 808 track. Open it up in MAnalyzer's sonogram. Other analyzers could work. 2) Look at bass harmonics, at their balance. Which of them are present? (for example, a lot of people are skipping the 2nd one or making it very soft) 3) Fire up any synth with wavetable edit capabilities. Serum, Dune 3, Phase Plant. Through trickery, you could use something less complex, but it has to provide good envelopes and they have to be assignable to pitch. 4) In the editor, you draw the balance of the harmonics you saw in the reference. With an envelope, you create a snap and a tone descent to your taste. Basically you're done. It's a synth patch, you could change speed, tone. Change harmonics balance. Even change it through time with a wavetable morphing. Whatever you would need to. Throw a waveshaper on it if you want to. Or any mixing aid that doesn't screw your subtone. You don't need to limit it or anything, you have a direct control of the balance in the synth. Which is awesome.
I've been using this for a few days and I LOVE it. Also, MG, could you check out Fanso's beat tapes if you have a minute? They're a bunch of Spanish kids making lo fi beats and raping over them. I think you'll enjoy it and... maybe you'd break it down and show us how they get their sound... :)
Sooo... I've been having this question for the past few days... and while searching sublab on RUclips I actually got a partial answer but I didn't see how u did it. How in studio one did you set your sublab to mono track?
hey MG do you buy all these plugins and DAW's ? or you just buy some and use pirated ones as well. In every video I see you are using different DAW's, studio one, FL, ableton, etc.
So basically it's THE plugin for people who can't use Serum. Or Dune 3. Or anything decent at all. The _most_ basic toolset, available in practically every DAW with stock plugins and even more achievable if you have any decent modern synth. With more versatility. Harmonics move, you see? Are you kidding me? Since when it's a freaking feature? Wow, what a disaster. Disaster with a slick design. But I don't think someone who gets affiliate links as their business would tell you that. 14:12 "Good". Oh yeah. Awesome. Bury me under the ground.
Or...or...its a dedicated 808 instrument with built in variable glide and kick key detection with side chain...which none of what you mention does. And best part....I don't get affiliste commission. Yikes
@@MGTheFuture Ok, good for you, I didn't know that, I apologize. Synthing harmonics "automatically" to a kick is a cool feature, yes. Saves 30 seconds. But from there, it's all downhill. I get the consolidation argument. But the X-Sub or whatever is just a load of bullshit. "Psychoacoustic" oscillator, seriously. Psychoacoustic marketing department. A user hears it and he's stiff like an 808. > its a dedicated 808 instrument Which market asks for only because they don't have a second clue about how to easily do it in every wavetable synth, especially with sample overlays. And you can balance harmonics in a synth. Wow. Such a "rare" feature. Where to look, I won't even know. BPM-synced glide is definitely not a thing in any of the synths above (you can program it in with modulation but it won't be the same), I don't see anyone killing with the feature; but... let's go further with the checklist, shall we? "Variable glide"... means that it does what, goes to different notes with different speed depending (or not) on a pitch, and there's a curve to it? Well, Serum does it exactly this way. In fact, even Massive did it, without the curving part. In 2007. "Kick key detection" I suppose is nice, it is done by looking at its sub with an analyzer for one milisecond, and is not relevant since we want to create a clean sub without intersecting phases (which I'm COMPLETELY sure this thing discards wholeheartedly, judging from a terrible wobbly combinations it offered in the demo). Serato, Melodyne? Great ideas for pitch detection of a single clicky synth note. I'm being sarcastic. 1) By analysis: you open a SPAN or MAnalyzer (both free) and you point at the bass frequency. Everyone can do it. It says the note right there, don't even have to look it up. 2) By ear: you pitch it octave up and just play notes. But yeah, you shouldn't do it, because you shouldn't blindly intersect your synth tone and your kick tone at all if you don't want the volume wobbling around randomly (like it does here). You _can_ overlay, with clever use of delay and allpass, but without it, it's going to get you worse sound, not better. Weaker, not beefier. > with side chain It ducks the synth under a sample. Duh. Not only Serum but a freaking 3xOsc would do that. Any synth with a volume envelope. Isn't it every subtractive synth out there? Hundreds of them? :) If not thousands. If it would react to an external audio input, then okay, cool -- I wouldn't use it of course, because simple volume envelope is always the way to go (maybe with a sprinkle of freq separation, bur I rarely like the effect). And it's an instrument, not an effect, so... So I guess -- yikes? > 13:43 It's blasting my channel. Oh, poor channel. You have a beautiful voice and delivery. Sure you're a great guy. Just deliver better knowledge. Your DAW passes the audio around in 32 bits floating point internally. 32 bits float offers, wait for it, +770 dB of headroom. You don't have to worry about it until your last plugin in your master processing chain. And it was meant to be blasting, cause you wanted a supersolid bass and you have nothing going on in the lows otherwise. References: www.paulcecchettimusic.com/understanding-audio-setup-in-studio-one/ www.sounddevices.com/32-bit-float-files-explained/ And you can bump your quantization to 64 bits in Studio One. So you could fit a fucking nuclear explosion. Not a tipy blip you saw there. > 15:00 The bass is the most important part in the urban music, and it helped to dial it in perfectly. No. It didn't. Here, it sounds muddy as hell, it clips (yeah, because you don't need to use a frigging limiter to balance the volume out if you're GENERATING THE SOUND YOURSELF...) and despite all the harmonics business, almost all the notes are lost, cause you've buried them in the sub region and brought fifths up instead. If one would pitch the whole track an octave up, they would know which notes you've meant to use. If one knows how to select a correct key for the lowest end, he won't end up in A minor. And so on. And so forth. If you're doing it for yourself, it is all fine, whatever. We all know that you can learn by stumbling around and googling. I did as well. If you're a teacher, an explainer, you shouldn't pass mistakes around. I think so at least. == The software is a well-dressed cash grab. It poses like you can't do it without "clever" (ahem) routing and smooth vector lines. I hate these kinds of things. They annoy me. People should know basics, instead of adding layers of nothing and feeling better about it.
@@MGTheFuture I don't know why I was so harsh and pressing, I'm sorry. It was an asshole tone. I guess that the combination of a lot of people watching, bad product and misleading guidelines got me furious, but it's not a good thing to do. I'm sorry. Hope you'll have a great time creating and learning.
None of the other demonstrators show how it applies to our culture! Your work is appreciated.
Culture????
Good stuff as always bro. It's crazy how much value is packed into this one plugin.
Yeah MGtheF, great overview. I got it when it first dropped, but your tutorial unlocked the magic for me! Firing up my DAW right now. Thanks.
Got it this past Saturday. I love it so far. Thanks for the informative video. I can definitely see my 808 game improving.
I got this when I saw you using it in a recent video. I was stumped when it came to using it so went back to my grain synth. Now I gottem both popping!!! 🤯🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Testing this thing out, they need to fix the retrigger when the X-sub is introduced...it's not on all the notes, just some. I think that's a bug because the sound is different every time I hit a key...in some cases, it's like half the sound. Not liking that one bit. Kick 2 wins this one again.
UPDATE: I contacted FAW about adding phase reset after writing the above comment, and they confirmed it will be in the first update coming out "very very soon"...and, they replied within a few hours! Freaking great!
Yes! Phase Reset has been implemented ✅
This is the most in dept review of this product...you also added tons of jewels and gold nuggets to take your 808s to crazy levels. FAW should have paid you for this overview or link it to their website. It was THAT GOOD. You infeugo bro!!!!!!!!
Never thought I needed another 808 plugin but maybe I do.
Got this a couple of weeks ago when MG first have a short review and gave the link from Mr. Different TV that have a discount. This is a more detailed review. Thanks!! This plugin is nice. Well worth the $$
Adding this one for sure!
Gracias señor MG del futuro!
Fire 🔥 Nice work 💿🔥💯
Great tutorial! Whallah I’m subscribed.
Thx for the demo bro. I'm buying it right now
Dayuum!, I just said I wasn't buying anything else and here YOU go. Come On Bro
Love this. And sublab is Fire🔥
thanks bro i just copped it !
Great explanation, *MG The Future* !
Appreciate it.
That bass was thumping!
Loved it.
Siiiick! Salute from Toronto!!!!
The gold and black looks great. Great video. Seems like a great product. You are always a go-to for information. Have a great day.
🙏🙏
I always like how professional you are man.
🙏
Dope!
🙏bro! So many gems!!!
This joint looks fire
Yooo MG, props for the Serato pack 👊✌
This plus XO got the drum game covered. MG can you do a quick video on the free EQ that came with this? Peace.
Its fire Bro... Got it..
“Stay woke lol” Subscribed!
Lol one dislike MG on his job! Haha DOPE review and that beat ? MG voice - Relax!
That beat is so nice
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
good video - from a technical perspective
Thanks
thanx
I think what Jason Joshua was talking about was using a plugin like SigMod to divide the frequency spectrum of 808s to different tracks. That way you can have the low of the sups in the middle and the higher part on the sides.
Multiband essentially. Yes. This splits Xband, filter, and harmonics. Very close.
dope
Just caught what you meant in the discord about this and glides 🌶
still not sure if i should cop it cuz serum has been working pretty well for me. the beat in the video is super fye tho 🔥 you been snapping on these videos lately.
Word
Bruh....bruh....them jokas just made a real dope plugin. LOL.....I opened an account just for you MG, just so I can point and click after watching your reviews. Gots to have this. LOL...But we need tou to do a video on that free Sonib'e EQ. LOL
Fire!!! Need that new hack video!
What's your go to vsts rn b/c your melodies are fire fam 💯🔥
😂 I didn't think you wasn't going to do a review for this. 🌶🌶🌶
Omm that Onzone is that finishing move!
Wondering are expansion packs useful? Is it worth $25 to buy them all, or the $40 SubLab itself is enough?
@pluginBoutique @FAW Cut the check @mgthefuture Just sold the hell out of this plugin i'm copping it now forsure !!!
Bruh, how do I get Reason to load this plug-in? It's working in Ableton Live 🤔
Do a spectral layers 6 review and tutorial
how about VS substance vst
Maannn - I was REALLY trying not to want this plugin! LOL!
Good vst
Perfectly timed video. I was binging on Rhythm Roulette and thinking I really need to step my 808 game up. So if all I've used for 808's thus far are samples, that I'm not always in love with. Would you recommend getting this to better customize the sound to my liking?
I use it all the time
1) Take your favourite 808 track. Open it up in MAnalyzer's sonogram. Other analyzers could work.
2) Look at bass harmonics, at their balance. Which of them are present? (for example, a lot of people are skipping the 2nd one or making it very soft)
3) Fire up any synth with wavetable edit capabilities. Serum, Dune 3, Phase Plant. Through trickery, you could use something less complex, but it has to provide good envelopes and they have to be assignable to pitch.
4) In the editor, you draw the balance of the harmonics you saw in the reference.
With an envelope, you create a snap and a tone descent to your taste.
Basically you're done. It's a synth patch, you could change speed, tone. Change harmonics balance. Even change it through time with a wavetable morphing. Whatever you would need to.
Throw a waveshaper on it if you want to. Or any mixing aid that doesn't screw your subtone. You don't need to limit it or anything, you have a direct control of the balance in the synth. Which is awesome.
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I've been using this for a few days and I LOVE it.
Also, MG, could you check out Fanso's beat tapes if you have a minute? They're a bunch of Spanish kids making lo fi beats and raping over them. I think you'll enjoy it and... maybe you'd break it down and show us how they get their sound... :)
Can you hook this plug in into Redrum...where you don't have to use a keyboard?
I don’t think so - just midi or piano roll
Would you still add additional effects e.g. RBass , compression and distortion before mastering? It looks like this plugin has everything covered
You can swap that out - but typically no
What if you just want the kick to play in a section and drop the sub bass?
You can turn each generator down
Sooo... I've been having this question for the past few days... and while searching sublab on RUclips I actually got a partial answer but I didn't see how u did it. How in studio one did you set your sublab to mono track?
Not sure honestly - I think you can open mono instruments
so could you use sub lab for just kicks ?
Anything really
How do i get in touch with future audio work shop. I cant seem to Install my sublab
Hi, you can submit a request here: support.futureaudioworkshop.com/
Plug and play 808’s 🌶🌶🌶
Not this time...this the MG edition 😅
Unfortunately activation on Win7 seems to be a real pain for some folks.
spice fam gon' sub bass this world
hey MG do you buy all these plugins and DAW's ? or you just buy some and use pirated ones as well. In every video I see you are using different DAW's, studio one, FL, ableton, etc.
I buy em
Does it work in maschine?
Yes! SubLab is NKS-ready ✅
You look like The Game!
#Drip #KeepBangin
🌶 vs 🌎
I told u about da baby last year . 💪🏿
Yeah, I knew him was baby jesus when I was working with young Blaza. Glad he switched the name.
Yeah, I knew him was baby jesus when I was working with young Blaza. Glad he switched the name.
Had this this for months and never used it! You just put a cat in the game!
You sold me on it brauh... beat is fyi by the way...
🙏🙏🙏
I can't wait until the NKS update comes and I can use this in my Maschine MK3
Yes! NKS-ready ✅
So basically it's THE plugin for people who can't use Serum. Or Dune 3. Or anything decent at all.
The _most_ basic toolset, available in practically every DAW with stock plugins and even more achievable if you have any decent modern synth. With more versatility.
Harmonics move, you see? Are you kidding me? Since when it's a freaking feature?
Wow, what a disaster. Disaster with a slick design.
But I don't think someone who gets affiliate links as their business would tell you that.
14:12 "Good".
Oh yeah. Awesome. Bury me under the ground.
Or...or...its a dedicated 808 instrument with built in variable glide and kick key detection with side chain...which none of what you mention does.
And best part....I don't get affiliste commission. Yikes
@@MGTheFuture Ok, good for you, I didn't know that, I apologize.
Synthing harmonics "automatically" to a kick is a cool feature, yes. Saves 30 seconds. But from there, it's all downhill.
I get the consolidation argument. But the X-Sub or whatever is just a load of bullshit. "Psychoacoustic" oscillator, seriously. Psychoacoustic marketing department. A user hears it and he's stiff like an 808.
> its a dedicated 808 instrument
Which market asks for only because they don't have a second clue about how to easily do it in every wavetable synth, especially with sample overlays.
And you can balance harmonics in a synth. Wow. Such a "rare" feature. Where to look, I won't even know.
BPM-synced glide is definitely not a thing in any of the synths above (you can program it in with modulation but it won't be the same), I don't see anyone killing with the feature; but... let's go further with the checklist, shall we?
"Variable glide"... means that it does what, goes to different notes with different speed depending (or not) on a pitch, and there's a curve to it? Well, Serum does it exactly this way. In fact, even Massive did it, without the curving part. In 2007.
"Kick key detection" I suppose is nice, it is done by looking at its sub with an analyzer for one milisecond, and is not relevant since we want to create a clean sub without intersecting phases (which I'm COMPLETELY sure this thing discards wholeheartedly, judging from a terrible wobbly combinations it offered in the demo).
Serato, Melodyne? Great ideas for pitch detection of a single clicky synth note. I'm being sarcastic.
1) By analysis: you open a SPAN or MAnalyzer (both free) and you point at the bass frequency. Everyone can do it. It says the note right there, don't even have to look it up.
2) By ear: you pitch it octave up and just play notes.
But yeah, you shouldn't do it, because you shouldn't blindly intersect your synth tone and your kick tone at all if you don't want the volume wobbling around randomly (like it does here). You _can_ overlay, with clever use of delay and allpass, but without it, it's going to get you worse sound, not better. Weaker, not beefier.
> with side chain
It ducks the synth under a sample. Duh. Not only Serum but a freaking 3xOsc would do that. Any synth with a volume envelope. Isn't it every subtractive synth out there? Hundreds of them? :) If not thousands.
If it would react to an external audio input, then okay, cool -- I wouldn't use it of course, because simple volume envelope is always the way to go (maybe with a sprinkle of freq separation, bur I rarely like the effect). And it's an instrument, not an effect, so...
So I guess -- yikes?
> 13:43 It's blasting my channel.
Oh, poor channel.
You have a beautiful voice and delivery. Sure you're a great guy. Just deliver better knowledge.
Your DAW passes the audio around in 32 bits floating point internally.
32 bits float offers, wait for it, +770 dB of headroom. You don't have to worry about it until your last plugin in your master processing chain. And it was meant to be blasting, cause you wanted a supersolid bass and you have nothing going on in the lows otherwise.
References:
www.paulcecchettimusic.com/understanding-audio-setup-in-studio-one/
www.sounddevices.com/32-bit-float-files-explained/
And you can bump your quantization to 64 bits in Studio One. So you could fit a fucking nuclear explosion. Not a tipy blip you saw there.
> 15:00 The bass is the most important part in the urban music, and it helped to dial it in perfectly.
No. It didn't. Here, it sounds muddy as hell, it clips (yeah, because you don't need to use a frigging limiter to balance the volume out if you're GENERATING THE SOUND YOURSELF...) and despite all the harmonics business, almost all the notes are lost, cause you've buried them in the sub region and brought fifths up instead. If one would pitch the whole track an octave up, they would know which notes you've meant to use. If one knows how to select a correct key for the lowest end, he won't end up in A minor. And so on. And so forth.
If you're doing it for yourself, it is all fine, whatever. We all know that you can learn by stumbling around and googling. I did as well. If you're a teacher, an explainer, you shouldn't pass mistakes around. I think so at least.
==
The software is a well-dressed cash grab. It poses like you can't do it without "clever" (ahem) routing and smooth vector lines. I hate these kinds of things. They annoy me. People should know basics, instead of adding layers of nothing and feeling better about it.
@@MGTheFuture I don't know why I was so harsh and pressing, I'm sorry. It was an asshole tone.
I guess that the combination of a lot of people watching, bad product and misleading guidelines got me furious, but it's not a good thing to do. I'm sorry. Hope you'll have a great time creating and learning.