I was speechless when I first reached this scene, I was already suprised when they said they were going back to their real home, thank you so much for this soundtrack. Also i really wanna see the look on the faces of people who said "ZZZ doesn't have a story and there's no goal" It had a story since 1.0, they were just too busy skipping everything
I agree, this scene kinda blew me away. I just think the voice acting, the song, the dialogue, all just comes together for a really powerful moment. I hope there's more scenes like this in the future
@@hungshun yeah, and not to mention even Fairy felt bad for them, I'm used to her being being funny and making fun of Belle (since i chose Wise as my protagonist) so I wasn't expecting that. And don't worry, knowing hoyo there are probably gonna be more scenes like this
Only idiots couldn't tell they were cooking.Just like Genshin they laid all the crumbs and lore foreshadowing of the amazing story that lied ahead, while focusing on a fun, exciting hook with memorable memories to get us started. But never was there a time where we couldn't tell there was something far deeper, assuming you had any reading comprehension. ZZZ IS PEAK
@@leho_123 yeah so many questions and plot points hidden behind the casual look of the game, i get that ZZZ's style isn't for everyone but goddamn some people were really grasping at anything they can criticize about it, i saw someone criticizing the fact that Caesar's shield makes the character glow. Honestly I kinda started ignoring those people ever since they started saying it should have been yet another open world gacha that seems to be flooding the market
Yep, this is game is hitting close to the kids born in the 90s if it sounds like that. And dammit, this feels like a somber nostalgia for how things were good back then.
I just knew after hearing this, as well as the dialogue between the characters I had to come back and listen to this. Eng cast did an amazing job for this melancholy scene.
If you ever have to say the words ENG VAs did a great job, you can very well just say every performance was great since EN is always the bottom of the barrel in expectations for good voice acting. Well, maybe KR is worse than EN but no one pays attention to KR for anime dubbing anyway
@@thepeoplesXD they really haven't lol. Cartoony and fake performance, clearly sounding like they're acting, not being the character. Not to mention low skill ability in emotional expression + weaker range amongst other factors. But I guess its good if thats your bar.
I was looking for this song since the 1.0 if anyone is asking about this ost it was in the story chapter where nekomata found her family heirloom and start explaining to the cunning hares that she was with the red fang gang and silver was her family and she doesn't want revenge anymore so yeah that was first time the player hear this ost
im so happy we finally know what is the siblings' reasons for doing all these proxy jobs. they didnt tell fairy about this before cuz they dont trust her, im glad they trust her now
Mihoyo games and their mysterious worlds. I love this one especially because it shares some similarities with dark and futile theme of Arknights (even if zzz carries itself brightly on the surface).
I greatly appreciate ZZZ's story direction so far, and giving us a much more "grounded" setting compared to the other games. The cozy vibes I feel from this game are incredible, and I can't wait to get to the more dramatic story chapters now.
Only idiots couldn't tell they were cooking.Just like Genshin they laid all the crumbs and lore foreshadowing of the amazing story that lied ahead, while focusing on a fun, exciting hook with memorable memories to get us started. But never was there a time where we couldn't tell there was something far deeper, assuming you had any reading comprehension. ZZZ IS PEAK
Im sorry to say, but genshins early stages were terrrible in terms of story. Until they wrap everything and finish the grand reveal, genshins story will forever stay low tier
@@noirysp3293 your opinion is pretty unmeasured. mond was simple, but not trash whatsoever. just a classic intro hero story, 6/10. Liyue was a step up introducing vital world building and factions naturally, 7.5/10. Inazuma suffered from rushing and couldnt reach its potential, so fell to 7/10. Sumeru and Fontaine were both easy 9/10s, easily. Thats just main story, lore wise and world building throughout world quests + collectible lore has been a 10/10 all throughout. Calling that low tier is hilariously off mark.
My single biggest gripe going into this game was that the story is poorly represented. Like the grand plot. We were left completely in the dark on our main protagonist's motivations for 3 whole versions. That is a problem. The actual state of the world is poorly explained in game. Even now it still isn't clearly explained in game that this is an apocalypse and New Eridu is the only city left. There is no good reason for this. The game is carried so hard by its characters and gameplay it is crazy.
@@DarthTalon5 thats a skill issue, tbf. They’ve dropped plenty of hints of depth since day one for the twins. The world is very clearly apocalyptic, with old eridu completely turned into hollow zero, etc. If you didn’t pick up on these you weren’t paying attention/skipping/dont have good reading comprehension Its like reading a good book with high level techniques but saying it was bad cause you didn’t understand it, right?
@@leho_123 The people in the world do not act even remotely like the world could end at any moment. We have schoolkids walking around worried about phones and snack dates ffs. The means of the world coming to an end is literally a power source that society runs on that corporations will go out of their way to enable just to earn more money. Hollow Zero/Old Eridu, doesn't need to refer specifically to apocalypse and moreso natural disaster, akin to something like Pompeii. By the twins do we mean the Ballet Twins or Old Eridu/New Eridu? Because the Ballet twins is a story of tragedy in a very small scale hollow comparatively and the Eridus would be twin only in name, not in terms of age or even similar design making that a weird point. The only real thing I have found that says "This is a world encompassing threat" is one of the early trailers and the only thing that says "New Eridu is the last city" is the wiki and probably some random ass tweet made by the devs. NONE OF THAT is in game. As far as in game is concerned there could be plenty of other cities out there that also have to contend with the same problems. Let me ask you this, what is the "Black Wall" I can guess from context that it is probably a massive hollow that basically would consist of whatever else is left of the planet, but that would surely be visible on the horizon and almost certainly cause huge issues regarding sunlight so that can't be it since you experience a normal full length day and we never see the damn thing. Or is it just another really big hollow more massive than hollow zero, because that would just be underwhelming. Do you see where there are problems now? Where the cracks start to form? I haven't even touched upon how we the players didn't even know our protagonists' motivation until the end of chapter 4 because it was left intentionally vague where even the characters themselves would talk cryptically to each other with no one else around. Or how anything that occurs in the game that isn't them doing stuff in Hollow Zero once they obtain access to it is a complete waste of their time. They have this big goal, yet they functionally do nothing to actually pursue it. I understand everything just fine...do you?
I REALLY TRY not to keep comparing ZZZ's soundtrack to Persona's but THE INFLUENCE IS DEFINITELY THERE, IT'S HARD TO IGNORE of course, im not complaining, and it still has it's own separate vibe, but it really takes me back to those feelings I'd get on my first playthroughs of the persona games.
i am just really happy with this scene. the story had a proper mystery but the goal felt a little aimless. it seemed more like we were just following whatever was happening with vision, with the side bet of figuring out what that monster was. this... this is it. now I know what they're actually fighting for, and i want to see what comes of that! beautiful scene all around!
This exactly. As a consequence this makes a lot of what has been done so far just seem like a waste of time as most of it has done nothing to actually aid them in their goal. Like sure they are doing good things, cool. But they also do absolutely nothing to further their goal. It makes it feel like they are just waiting for something to just fall into their laps rather than actually working toward their goal.
@@thecommentor3845 Yeah that is a good thing. But as a consequence it also means that anything that isn't them doing Hollow Zero is a waste of their time.
@@DarthTalon5Not really. Them helping Cunning Hares chase Perlman and Vision, learning about Sacrifices, and Ballet Twins is still align with their main goal: Finding the culprit behind "The Fall of Eridu", proving that their teacher is innocent from past allegations.
@@TheWijasmara It doesn't though. It is tangential and coincidental that despite supposedly years or at least months of being the "legendary phaethon" they effectively accomplished nothing and honestly just got lucky recently. Outside of their preexisting connections with the Cunning Hares and Shepard. Nothing they've done prior to the story started has actually helped their goal. Everything happening now isn't a direct thing of them working to their goal it is usually coincidentally related. Perlman was coincidentally connected to some shady shit. The mutant in the statue, same thing. Rain a hacker (and has realistically done nothing since saved) was coincidentally kidnapped in the same location the blimp was being hijacked. Them even visiting Old Eridu after helping Son's of Calydon was also a coincidence since they decided to drop by only because they were in the area where they coincidentally met Miyabi which will be important to the next major plotpoint. They are literally stumbling their way luckily into their goal. All of their investigating has realistically done almost nothing.
After watching this in-game, and reading some theories, technically, since we're Proxies, we're criminals, what if after all, WE are the real villain from the story?
Nahhh, that doesn't really make any sense. Proxy work is only criminalized because it's dangerous (and probably to control/supress information about the nature of hollows and etherium). It's not "evil", and proxies aren't "villains".
@@Dominichunter5 Agreed. They're only villains if they intentionally do evil work. Phaethon aren't villains, because they make sure things don't go out of control and contain the situation.
I mean… Wise didn’t really finish his sentence as to why they firmly believed their teacher is innocent. So, maybe we caused it. Unintentionally of course, and their teacher took the blame. This is me just speculating, but with this it would make Miyabi’s line a lot more impactful as the story progresses. Her vowing to seek revenge towards the ones who caused the fall of the old capital
@@hmoyu885 There is an image next to the Errands tab that has been partially burnt. It has a younger Wise and Belle in it and an image of a brunette crossed out with some kind markings that looks like formal dress wear. I believe that is the person that caused the fall of Eridu and it is possibly is Ms. Sarah. ZZZ loves their foreshadowing and that has been one since the beginning of the game.
@@Maxshark999 I recorded it from the cutscene (there is a way to re-watch cutscenes at the video archive I believe), and just looped it together which was easy cause the song has a perfect spot to loop it in. Shouldn't be compressed at all though, sounds the same to me
@@hungshun ok so that weird like distortion is intentional, It sounds similar but not exactly the same as the ost i downloaded so i wasnt sure if it was just that 1 song was badly compressed or not and came here and they didnt sound exactly the same so i wasnt sure. and the video archive is for agent stories. like the one you're forced to do to progress the story, its agent in the molehill (1) or something like that with soldier 11. Its just 3 missions for a handful of agents to unlock their hangouts. Thats why characters like nekomata, lycaon, grace, etc cant be hung out with even if you pulled the character
Honestly the only most important parts at Chapter 4. Tour de Inferno's whole plot is kinda... bland. The betrayal and sacrifice plot is too obvious and unsatisfying.
had to delete the game cuz my phone can’t take all 3 Mihoyo game at once why all the good stories have to be locked behind more than 30+ gigabytes(please optimize your games hoyoverse)
They said they plan on a resource management feature in future updates. This way maybe we'll be able to delete story data that we already completed and that we don't need anymore.
PEAK - so hyped to see more of the lore about the hollow disaster and the Helios Academy.
God, this scene hits so much more after seeing Miyabi's backstory... Thank you, ZZZ dev team, for this grace of melancholia.
I was speechless when I first reached this scene, I was already suprised when they said they were going back to their real home, thank you so much for this soundtrack.
Also i really wanna see the look on the faces of people who said "ZZZ doesn't have a story and there's no goal"
It had a story since 1.0, they were just too busy skipping everything
I agree, this scene kinda blew me away. I just think the voice acting, the song, the dialogue, all just comes together for a really powerful moment. I hope there's more scenes like this in the future
@@hungshun yeah, and not to mention even Fairy felt bad for them, I'm used to her being being funny and making fun of Belle (since i chose Wise as my protagonist) so I wasn't expecting that.
And don't worry, knowing hoyo there are probably gonna be more scenes like this
Only idiots couldn't tell they were cooking.Just like Genshin they laid all the crumbs and lore foreshadowing of the amazing story that lied ahead, while focusing on a fun, exciting hook with memorable memories to get us started. But never was there a time where we couldn't tell there was something far deeper, assuming you had any reading comprehension. ZZZ IS PEAK
@@leho_123 yeah so many questions and plot points hidden behind the casual look of the game, i get that ZZZ's style isn't for everyone but goddamn some people were really grasping at anything they can criticize about it, i saw someone criticizing the fact that Caesar's shield makes the character glow.
Honestly I kinda started ignoring those people ever since they started saying it should have been yet another open world gacha that seems to be flooding the market
I wish I didn't just skip through the start. I only really started paying attention at Ballet Twins.
Yep, this is game is hitting close to the kids born in the 90s if it sounds like that. And dammit, this feels like a somber nostalgia for how things were good back then.
It got me so emotional to the point of crying. Anyone else?
Same is came out of nowhere and the ost just made the hit go deeper into my soul
@@zenik360, yeah...
gut punch to the soul, gacha game classic, "surprise mfer"
YES! Me too, and also the cutscene with Caesar after the boss fight
@@rayphantom, yeah, seeing Lucy crying a river. 😭
I just knew after hearing this, as well as the dialogue between the characters I had to come back and listen to this. Eng cast did an amazing job for this melancholy scene.
If you ever have to say the words ENG VAs did a great job, you can very well just say every performance was great since EN is always the bottom of the barrel in expectations for good voice acting. Well, maybe KR is worse than EN but no one pays attention to KR for anime dubbing anyway
@@leho_123 Fair enough, I didn’t mean any offense. I’m used to KR voices as well, but I enjoy english a bit more.
@@leho_123 What are you even on about. English dubs everywhere have been good to great for a decade or more.
@@thepeoplesXD they really haven't lol. Cartoony and fake performance, clearly sounding like they're acting, not being the character. Not to mention low skill ability in emotional expression + weaker range amongst other factors.
But I guess its good if thats your bar.
they're clearly good bro, stop being so edgy
I was looking for this song since the 1.0 if anyone is asking about this ost it was in the story chapter where nekomata found her family heirloom and start explaining to the cunning hares that she was with the red fang gang and silver was her family and she doesn't want revenge anymore so yeah that was first time the player hear this ost
Can't wait for zzz for get to dramatic chapter.
im so happy we finally know what is the siblings' reasons for doing all these proxy jobs. they didnt tell fairy about this before cuz they dont trust her, im glad they trust her now
Mihoyo games and their mysterious worlds. I love this one especially because it shares some similarities with dark and futile theme of Arknights (even if zzz carries itself brightly on the surface).
I greatly appreciate ZZZ's story direction so far, and giving us a much more "grounded" setting compared to the other games. The cozy vibes I feel from this game are incredible, and I can't wait to get to the more dramatic story chapters now.
This Chapter sure made me crying this shit man.
This scene made me genuinely cry like.. god damn
It's been less than a month, but somehow I already feel nostalgic about it. This gonna hit hard when I come back again after their story.
Only idiots couldn't tell they were cooking.Just like Genshin they laid all the crumbs and lore foreshadowing of the amazing story that lied ahead, while focusing on a fun, exciting hook with memorable memories to get us started. But never was there a time where we couldn't tell there was something far deeper, assuming you had any reading comprehension. ZZZ IS PEAK
Im sorry to say, but genshins early stages were terrrible in terms of story. Until they wrap everything and finish the grand reveal, genshins story will forever stay low tier
@@noirysp3293 your opinion is pretty unmeasured. mond was simple, but not trash whatsoever. just a classic intro hero story, 6/10. Liyue was a step up introducing vital world building and factions naturally, 7.5/10. Inazuma suffered from rushing and couldnt reach its potential, so fell to 7/10. Sumeru and Fontaine were both easy 9/10s, easily.
Thats just main story, lore wise and world building throughout world quests + collectible lore has been a 10/10 all throughout. Calling that low tier is hilariously off mark.
My single biggest gripe going into this game was that the story is poorly represented. Like the grand plot. We were left completely in the dark on our main protagonist's motivations for 3 whole versions. That is a problem. The actual state of the world is poorly explained in game. Even now it still isn't clearly explained in game that this is an apocalypse and New Eridu is the only city left.
There is no good reason for this. The game is carried so hard by its characters and gameplay it is crazy.
@@DarthTalon5 thats a skill issue, tbf. They’ve dropped plenty of hints of depth since day one for the twins. The world is very clearly apocalyptic, with old eridu completely turned into hollow zero, etc. If you didn’t pick up on these you weren’t paying attention/skipping/dont have good reading comprehension
Its like reading a good book with high level techniques but saying it was bad cause you didn’t understand it, right?
@@leho_123 The people in the world do not act even remotely like the world could end at any moment. We have schoolkids walking around worried about phones and snack dates ffs. The means of the world coming to an end is literally a power source that society runs on that corporations will go out of their way to enable just to earn more money.
Hollow Zero/Old Eridu, doesn't need to refer specifically to apocalypse and moreso natural disaster, akin to something like Pompeii.
By the twins do we mean the Ballet Twins or Old Eridu/New Eridu? Because the Ballet twins is a story of tragedy in a very small scale hollow comparatively and the Eridus would be twin only in name, not in terms of age or even similar design making that a weird point.
The only real thing I have found that says "This is a world encompassing threat" is one of the early trailers and the only thing that says "New Eridu is the last city" is the wiki and probably some random ass tweet made by the devs. NONE OF THAT is in game. As far as in game is concerned there could be plenty of other cities out there that also have to contend with the same problems.
Let me ask you this, what is the "Black Wall" I can guess from context that it is probably a massive hollow that basically would consist of whatever else is left of the planet, but that would surely be visible on the horizon and almost certainly cause huge issues regarding sunlight so that can't be it since you experience a normal full length day and we never see the damn thing. Or is it just another really big hollow more massive than hollow zero, because that would just be underwhelming.
Do you see where there are problems now? Where the cracks start to form? I haven't even touched upon how we the players didn't even know our protagonists' motivation until the end of chapter 4 because it was left intentionally vague where even the characters themselves would talk cryptically to each other with no one else around. Or how anything that occurs in the game that isn't them doing stuff in Hollow Zero once they obtain access to it is a complete waste of their time. They have this big goal, yet they functionally do nothing to actually pursue it.
I understand everything just fine...do you?
Thank you for this
@@yeahwhy809 of course!
I REALLY TRY not to keep comparing ZZZ's soundtrack to Persona's but THE INFLUENCE IS DEFINITELY THERE, IT'S HARD TO IGNORE
of course, im not complaining, and it still has it's own separate vibe, but it really takes me back to those feelings I'd get on my first playthroughs of the persona games.
I was wondering what is the sibling’s goal. Now we know. It piqued my interest and now I want to know moaaar!
i start to cry when this song come up
God, I would love it if someone made a lofi for this beautiful track
The world building in this game is second to none, man
i am just really happy with this scene. the story had a proper mystery but the goal felt a little aimless. it seemed more like we were just following whatever was happening with vision, with the side bet of figuring out what that monster was. this... this is it. now I know what they're actually fighting for, and i want to see what comes of that! beautiful scene all around!
This exactly. As a consequence this makes a lot of what has been done so far just seem like a waste of time as most of it has done nothing to actually aid them in their goal. Like sure they are doing good things, cool. But they also do absolutely nothing to further their goal. It makes it feel like they are just waiting for something to just fall into their laps rather than actually working toward their goal.
@@DarthTalon5 it does also help contextualize why they are interested in hollow zero, meaning every run you do in it is canon lmao.
@@thecommentor3845 Yeah that is a good thing. But as a consequence it also means that anything that isn't them doing Hollow Zero is a waste of their time.
@@DarthTalon5Not really. Them helping Cunning Hares chase Perlman and Vision, learning about Sacrifices, and Ballet Twins is still align with their main goal: Finding the culprit behind "The Fall of Eridu", proving that their teacher is innocent from past allegations.
@@TheWijasmara It doesn't though. It is tangential and coincidental that despite supposedly years or at least months of being the "legendary phaethon" they effectively accomplished nothing and honestly just got lucky recently. Outside of their preexisting connections with the Cunning Hares and Shepard. Nothing they've done prior to the story started has actually helped their goal. Everything happening now isn't a direct thing of them working to their goal it is usually coincidentally related. Perlman was coincidentally connected to some shady shit. The mutant in the statue, same thing. Rain a hacker (and has realistically done nothing since saved) was coincidentally kidnapped in the same location the blimp was being hijacked. Them even visiting Old Eridu after helping Son's of Calydon was also a coincidence since they decided to drop by only because they were in the area where they coincidentally met Miyabi which will be important to the next major plotpoint. They are literally stumbling their way luckily into their goal. All of their investigating has realistically done almost nothing.
As much as I appriciated this scene in game; I find Wise's expression funny.
名曲過ぎる
先生から預かったイアスも家族として扱ってるのがいいよね…
"There's a way back home"
I'm not crying you're crying
this has the same beat as "fall back dxwn - yoxen"
that's very interesting. is the track by yoxen the original or do they happen to also use the same sampled melody?
After watching this in-game, and reading some theories, technically, since we're Proxies, we're criminals, what if after all, WE are the real villain from the story?
Nahhh, that doesn't really make any sense. Proxy work is only criminalized because it's dangerous (and probably to control/supress information about the nature of hollows and etherium). It's not "evil", and proxies aren't "villains".
@@Dominichunter5 Agreed. They're only villains if they intentionally do evil work. Phaethon aren't villains, because they make sure things don't go out of control and contain the situation.
I mean… Wise didn’t really finish his sentence as to why they firmly believed their teacher is innocent. So, maybe we caused it. Unintentionally of course, and their teacher took the blame. This is me just speculating, but with this it would make Miyabi’s line a lot more impactful as the story progresses. Her vowing to seek revenge towards the ones who caused the fall of the old capital
@@hmoyu885 There is an image next to the Errands tab that has been partially burnt. It has a younger Wise and Belle in it and an image of a brunette crossed out with some kind markings that looks like formal dress wear. I believe that is the person that caused the fall of Eridu and it is possibly is Ms. Sarah. ZZZ loves their foreshadowing and that has been one since the beginning of the game.
does the song actually sound like this in game? Feels like its distorted or compressed sounding but theres no way to rewatch cutscenes for me to check
@@Maxshark999 I recorded it from the cutscene (there is a way to re-watch cutscenes at the video archive I believe), and just looped it together which was easy cause the song has a perfect spot to loop it in. Shouldn't be compressed at all though, sounds the same to me
@@hungshun ok so that weird like distortion is intentional, It sounds similar but not exactly the same as the ost i downloaded so i wasnt sure if it was just that 1 song was badly compressed or not and came here and they didnt sound exactly the same so i wasnt sure. and the video archive is for agent stories. like the one you're forced to do to progress the story, its agent in the molehill (1) or something like that with soldier 11. Its just 3 missions for a handful of agents to unlock their hangouts. Thats why characters like nekomata, lycaon, grace, etc cant be hung out with even if you pulled the character
@@Maxshark999 if you go to the video archive and click Phatheon's Story, you can watch the cutscenes there
blank dreams..
the famous jrpg?
blank dreams...
jerboa
Good sound track...hopefully there is extended version. Currently it is just 50 sec sound track on repeat....
Can't wait for when they start doing sad shit. Love me a good sad ost
Honestly the only most important parts at Chapter 4. Tour de Inferno's whole plot is kinda... bland. The betrayal and sacrifice plot is too obvious and unsatisfying.
had to delete the game cuz my phone can’t take all 3 Mihoyo game at once
why all the good stories have to be locked behind more than 30+ gigabytes(please optimize your games hoyoverse)
They said they plan on a resource management feature in future updates. This way maybe we'll be able to delete story data that we already completed and that we don't need anymore.
Are you still using 128GB in 2024 or something? I tried installing all 5 miHoYo games and they don't even take half my phone's 256GB storage.
@@justjuniorjaw sorry for having a bad phone i guess idk how else i could answer your question
@@justjuniorjaw good to know