Turks overview (2024 update)

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    1:15 Gunpowder units created faster
    2:05 Gunpowder +25% HP, techs -50% cost, free chemistry
    3:32 Gold miners 20% faster
    4:30 Scout line free upgrades and +1 pierce armor
    UNIQUE UNIT AND TECHS
    6:20 Janissary (deep dive video: • How Good Are Janissari... )
    8:45 Unique techs
    TECH TREE
    10:12 Archers B+
    10:35 Infantry C
    10:50 Cavalry B+
    11:13 Siege B+
    11:41 Navy C+
    12:02 Monks B
    12:18 Defences A-
    12:40 Trash units C
    12:56 Strategies and final thoughts
    14:25 Squarespace
    Original Turk overview (2015): • Turks Overview Part 1
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    Background music from Epidemic Sound: www.epidemicsou...
    Game: Age of Empires II Definitive Edition

Комментарии • 237

  • @spookynya3066
    @spookynya3066 Месяц назад +628

    Very clever Mr. Sotl, you release a Teutonic Knights analysis and then you surprise us low guard with a Turks overview. Very clever indeed.

    • @Fernybun
      @Fernybun Месяц назад +36

      Literally Sun Tzu the art of the war

    • @Septimus_ii
      @Septimus_ii Месяц назад +21

      I got recommended a Best Bombard Towers video this morning, so I just assumed that was recent too!

    • @atordoadu
      @atordoadu Месяц назад +15

      He's just tricking us, no janissaries video to get us ready! Really clever Mr SOTL!

    • @yuuya5985
      @yuuya5985 Месяц назад +1

      11

    • @NUCCubus
      @NUCCubus Месяц назад +14

      Spirit off the Guard

  • @jasv49
    @jasv49 Месяц назад +314

    Wowowow civ overview without the unique unit overview a few days before? SotL catching us all off guard

    • @stephenpimm5940
      @stephenpimm5940 Месяц назад +8

      Thought I saw a Janisery one last week or so

    • @cvampaul
      @cvampaul Месяц назад

      A few months ago, you mean?​@@stephenpimm5940

    • @estellebright2579
      @estellebright2579 Месяц назад +3

      Janissary got their own review a few weeks ago though. Maybe a few months ago, but it did happen.

    • @eRic-hr3yl
      @eRic-hr3yl Месяц назад +4

      @@estellebright2579 If by ''a few weeks'' you mean over a year ago then yeah it did happen

    • @estellebright2579
      @estellebright2579 Месяц назад +1

      @@eRic-hr3yl I didnt check how far back that Jannisary review was, and I only found out recently that it was released 1 year ago.

  • @innertuber4049
    @innertuber4049 Месяц назад +79

    "Like janissaries, they're a little hit or miss."
    Underrated line.

  • @Zachariasiss
    @Zachariasiss Месяц назад +141

    that excitement when you click on a SOTL video to learn about his newest side business, this man can do anything!

  • @Davtwan
    @Davtwan Месяц назад +106

    And now the “How Good Are Janissaries?“ video over a year ago finally gets a follow up. You could say he’s the Spirit of the Long (Game).

  • @julibean5125
    @julibean5125 Месяц назад +24

    I know it is still on every overview you do.. but hearing your iconic Intro again made me smile from ear to ear :D

  • @benjaminduperreault4447
    @benjaminduperreault4447 Месяц назад +204

    Last time I was this early, Istanbul was still called Constantinople

  • @sebastianrossetti6167
    @sebastianrossetti6167 Месяц назад +18

    I don't believe people realize the amount of effort put into each of these videos. You have single-handedly raised the bar for the rest of RUclips. Thank you!

  • @Alche_mist
    @Alche_mist Месяц назад +5

    Turks are a Gunpowder Civilization: Yusuf Dikec approves.

    • @abdullahtokgoz
      @abdullahtokgoz Месяц назад

      This is the comment I was looking for 😂

  • @Ahmad_code
    @Ahmad_code Месяц назад +11

    My favourite civ lets go, thanks so much :). Also I'm sure I've seen parts of this video from you before, but it's cool you put it all here.

  • @Zakuzelo
    @Zakuzelo Месяц назад +18

    9:40 the sheer force of that cannonball flying through the air was too much for that poor cannon.
    That gunpowder tech discount is so archaic. Really feels like it should have been replaced with something else by now, or at least reworded to make it clear that it just effects two techs.

    • @kOaMaster2
      @kOaMaster2 Месяц назад +1

      Turks got the scout line armour bonus

  • @franciasii2435
    @franciasii2435 Месяц назад +101

    Hey this isn't a Teutons overview!!

    • @perrypougins379
      @perrypougins379 Месяц назад +11

      Well, SOTL had to appease the Turkish population in Germany somehow

  • @RobertLey60
    @RobertLey60 Месяц назад +5

    I want the old texture for Janissary! The hat is a must!

    • @ordinaryrat
      @ordinaryrat Месяц назад

      There is a mod for it I think.

    • @Gaius__
      @Gaius__ Месяц назад +1

      @@ordinaryrat Indeed there is, it replaces the regular Janissary with the Royal Janissary, which wears the hat. The mod is called "Janissaries with hats [standard UHD]".

    • @RobertLey60
      @RobertLey60 Месяц назад +2

      @@ordinaryrat Stil not the same. I want the devs to fiix it

  • @andrewgus8763
    @andrewgus8763 Месяц назад +5

    You forgot to mention they can’t cut on Black Forest due to lack of onager, that’s a huge down and you have to rely on pushing the opponent fast

    • @isaisotarriva8162
      @isaisotarriva8162 Месяц назад

      Also they are almost a perfect Michi civilizations, but no Onager means you are at the mercy of your enemy dictating the timing of the engagement, which is pretty bad on 1v1 Michi.
      That could mean booming to 200 pop, then camping for a while and suddenly cutting and then you have 200 Persian elephants on your base.

  • @et34t34fdf
    @et34t34fdf Месяц назад +6

    On a side-note, Zeroempires little vid on the turks is still funny AF.

  • @SerinVeya
    @SerinVeya Месяц назад +1

    I lit up like a Christmas tree when I saw this in my notifs, Turks are my go-to civ since Conquerors, through thick and thin. So excited to see an up to date overview for my low-tier kings!

  • @daniellison9182
    @daniellison9182 Месяц назад +68

    WHY THE JANISSARIES DONT HAVE THE HAT?!!!!!!!!

    • @strelet555
      @strelet555 Месяц назад +33

      The story goes, they did originally, but it was thought that they superficially resembled KKK hoods (a plausible concern in the much lower resolution of the original Age of Kings release.) So they lost the hats.

    • @funkymonkeyman1000
      @funkymonkeyman1000 Месяц назад +9

      @@strelet555really? I heard a dev say in an interview they didn’t want a unit that looks like the pope being killed but could be both

    • @mesuttig2366
      @mesuttig2366 Месяц назад +3

      Janissaries didn’t wear those hats during war, those where part of their civilian uniforms

    • @strelet555
      @strelet555 Месяц назад +2

      @funkymonkeyman1000 I've also heard the Pope version before. Honestly either or both of them could be true, the main point is that the apperance caused concern because of an unfortunate resemblance to something else. @mesuttig2366 Quite. There are other weird things about AoE2 Turks, like how they appear to simultaneously represent the Seljuk Turks and the much latter Turkish Ottoman Empire at the same time. AoE2 is a game that is somewhat informed by history with, in my opinion, reasonable deviations from history/reality to facilitate gameplay and emphasize aesthetics. It's a game that invokes and echoes history without having to recreate it perfectly.

    • @mesuttig2366
      @mesuttig2366 Месяц назад +1

      @@strelet555 bro relax I was just trying to pass on some fascinating history knowledge, I wasn’t attacking this game or anybody on here. I’m well aware of everything you just said.

  • @berkokten4444
    @berkokten4444 Месяц назад +4

    Free light cav is really nice but I think the turks need a buff on mid game, they're kinda desperate against good cav civs, I don't think halbs would be a solution but maybe a small bonus damage for janissaries against cav

  • @derricksmith8354
    @derricksmith8354 Месяц назад +3

    I love going spear and skirm in castle age so i can save the gold for getting to imp quickly. It catches people off gaurd and good fun!

  • @raigarmullerson4838
    @raigarmullerson4838 Месяц назад +3

    Love the content. Cheers from Estonia.

  • @Predator20357
    @Predator20357 Месяц назад +14

    0:10 Lore Accurate Turks right here, good job AoE2

  • @YossarianVanDriver
    @YossarianVanDriver Месяц назад +1

    I do love when a civ has a pretty decent part of the tech tree through unconventional means, like the archery range here or the saracen stable.

  • @mertsasi2248
    @mertsasi2248 Месяц назад +3

    as a real turk i can confess that i love gunpowder and magnificent mustaches

    • @EvilDoresh
      @EvilDoresh Месяц назад

      A hard-to-resist combination, that's for sure

  • @gamingminds7093
    @gamingminds7093 Месяц назад

    I never realized that hand cannon & bombard cannon had to be researched before! Makes sense as I played AoK from the patched 2.0 version. You learn something new everyday

  • @xkerberosx1
    @xkerberosx1 Месяц назад +1

    In context with the current happenings of the olympic games, it is safe to say that Turks being a gunpowder civ is very accurate

  • @victorskwrxsti7899
    @victorskwrxsti7899 Месяц назад +2

    It's crazy to look back that we used to have to research Hand Cannon, Bombard Cannon, and Cannon Galleon after Chemistry to use those units. I wonder what happened to those pesky Researcher Guild gauging our precious resources...

  • @volcanic_sloth
    @volcanic_sloth Месяц назад +2

    i completely forgot cannon galeons don't have to be researched anymore -_-

  • @AbsoluuttinenTotuus
    @AbsoluuttinenTotuus Месяц назад +3

    My mother's mother's father's father was Turkish. Otherwise I'm Finnish :)

  • @AtlasJotun
    @AtlasJotun Месяц назад

    Hi Spirit! I've been neglecting Turks lately, they're a tough civ for me. This presentation served as a good reminder to keep practicing fast Imp. with them, maybe even try some RedPhosphoru shenanigans with Janissaries garrison-hopping rams. Thanks!

    • @teddyhaines6613
      @teddyhaines6613 Месяц назад

      I mostly use them in team games rather than 1v1s, but from my experience it's also worth keeping in mind that Turks can do a boom game as well if the situation calls for it. In that case you're more likely to aim for an army of heavy cav archers and hussars rather than janissaries. They're more versatile in general than they get credit for.

  • @lucasgarcia5427
    @lucasgarcia5427 Месяц назад +4

    7:40 I'm a little confused, where is that extra armor coming from? Shouldn't it be +3/+4? 🤔

  • @sashiniranjannair922
    @sashiniranjannair922 Месяц назад +7

    Hi Spirit, law of the guys here

  • @erikdw8379
    @erikdw8379 Месяц назад +17

    At 06:43 why does the Janissary have 35 HP? Thanks to the Turk Gunpowder HP bonus they should actually have 44.
    Also, at 07:41, why does both the Elite Janissary and Hand Canoneeer have +4/+5 armor? That is an armor distribution that the former can never get, and, for the latter, it's possible for Hindustanis, not Turks, and they also can't get +4/+5 armor AND the Turk HP bonus at the same time, as shown here.

    • @Max15691
      @Max15691 Месяц назад +2

      ¿Maybe the map editor? Having a Janissary with a civ other than turks, they won't have the hp bonus. Or maybe playing with full tech tree, the civ bonuses don't apply.
      As for the second part, I can only think of a mod that allows sharing civ bonuses among all allies. But it's usually a 10x civ bonus silly mod. I haven't checked if there's one that only shares the civ bonuses and doesn't multiply them by an X number.

    • @UnDeaDCyBorg
      @UnDeaDCyBorg Месяц назад

      I was about to ask the latter when I found your comment. That was puzzling. I thought maybe I've been out of the loop for too long and they had an extra armour bonus, but nope.

    • @thomashaslinger8535
      @thomashaslinger8535 Месяц назад

      Was wondering the same things

  • @geodudism
    @geodudism Месяц назад

    Still loving these!❤

  • @Barzonius
    @Barzonius Месяц назад +6

    33 seconds ago is crazy...

  • @fabiorosa9435
    @fabiorosa9435 Месяц назад +1

    3:35 did that male villager really walk 6 tiles to get to the gold he wanted, instead of 1 tile and a half?

  • @specificgod3627
    @specificgod3627 Месяц назад +1

    Nooooo
    Bring back the OG closing music

  • @dolfy7591
    @dolfy7591 Месяц назад +2

    Never clicked this fast in my life

  • @lincolnvolk7609
    @lincolnvolk7609 Месяц назад +1

    Spirit of the la hire!!

  • @Ibrahim_Orhan
    @Ibrahim_Orhan Месяц назад

    A top quality content, as always.

  • @darkdill
    @darkdill 19 дней назад

    While the missing trash upgrades and lack of Onager hurt Turks pretty badly, I'd actually say that the lack of Herbal Medicine can also be a big detriment. Think about it: you have a lot of units that you want to keep alive as much as possible, so healing in a Castle would be very handy between engagements. However, without Herbal Medicine, that doesn't work nearly as well, so you have to rely on Monks.

  • @EvilDoresh
    @EvilDoresh Месяц назад +1

    The Magikarp of AoE2 civs

  • @moon2schyzo
    @moon2schyzo Месяц назад +7

    Hey Spirit, Guys of the Law here. No really. This is the FBI open up!

  • @johncohnor9655
    @johncohnor9655 Месяц назад

    4:24 I saw you, you were looking at me when you said that

  • @real-life_chemistry
    @real-life_chemistry Месяц назад +3

    As a turk i can confirm that we the best arena civ

  • @Beam_of_Love
    @Beam_of_Love Месяц назад +1

    I am only very much irked by the Land Cannon Galleon at 1:16

  • @rovsea-3761
    @rovsea-3761 Месяц назад +1

    There was something weird with the Jannissary/ Hand Cannon at 7:55, namely, the armor. Both had extra armor, is it possible when grabbing footage of them in the editor you had Hindustanis loaded up or something similar?

  • @andrelunkes6455
    @andrelunkes6455 Месяц назад +2

    Make Aztecs updated review 2024.

  • @Narthrivor
    @Narthrivor Месяц назад +1

    As others mentioned already, has a part of this been tested with Hindustanis tech tree perhaps ? Would explain lower hp but higher armour.

  • @snack711
    @snack711 Месяц назад

    the +1 pierce armor is actually insane against archer line

  • @RazorWinter
    @RazorWinter Месяц назад +2

    How can it be Turk if there is no feral cat unit?

  • @pedrofelck
    @pedrofelck Месяц назад

    I think the Turks should have a bonus to be able to make stables and (dark age stats) scouts. For pro players, it would mean just having stables (and maybe a scout or two) built when starting feudal age. It would make them a little more aggressive in feudal while not affecting their strength in closed maps. Also, it goes well with their current scout bonuses.

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-3262 Месяц назад

    jannisary also has zero delay on thir attack, like ye old mangudai, making them insanely good at kiting and microing.

  • @SuperMewKittyKatGaming
    @SuperMewKittyKatGaming Месяц назад +1

    "It takes a lot to make a stew
    When it comes to me and you
    And him and her and the JANIZARY, too
    Too many TURKS, it’s true
    The saying goes, it’ll spoil the broth
    Honey, I think that’s not true
    Well, maybe too many TURKS will spoil the broth, but they’ll fill our hearts with
    So much, so much GOLD
    Too many TURKS"

  • @vladmihailov8780
    @vladmihailov8780 Месяц назад

    Getting the SOTL intro feels good

  • @petrkubik5701
    @petrkubik5701 Месяц назад

    Mistake in video - not any other civ - with bohemians I have the better fast imp time and researching chemistry whilst going imp. So I’m hiting imp with chemistry as well.

  • @youstoletheinnocence
    @youstoletheinnocence Месяц назад

    Intro is back!!

  • @azurerider812
    @azurerider812 Месяц назад

    A strong candidate for the "Gold Princess Civ" moniker

  • @andreas23456
    @andreas23456 Месяц назад +1

    Why do these units at 7:48 have +5 pierce armor? Shouldn't be 4?

  • @gordemn
    @gordemn Месяц назад +1

    timely upload

  • @renzoloco
    @renzoloco Месяц назад

    My favourite civ, especially when I was a kid 25 years ago! For me, having rifles earlier than anyone else was just OP so first time I saw the Janissary in caslte age I was sold on Turks as being the best.

  • @caglaralaca
    @caglaralaca Месяц назад

    You missed scout +1 pierce bonus Sotl... FU Scout cavalry takes 1 damage from enemy archers at feudal age. 65 hits. A FU Paladin takes 60 arrows from FU arbs.. Feudal age Turk scouts are extremely strong especially in TG's. They dominate feudal fights.

  • @JoeLiningToolFilms
    @JoeLiningToolFilms Месяц назад +1

    C for trash units is generous.

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 18 дней назад

    When are you going to give us a Huns Overview Update? It is by far your most out dated on as it doesn't even have the Ranking System.

  • @anhanguyen4051
    @anhanguyen4051 Месяц назад +1

    Can the Turk access imperial skirm if they have a Vietnamese ally? I have never tried that combo and haven't played the game for sooo long.

    • @hitmanx200
      @hitmanx200 Месяц назад

      No they can’t since they don’t get elite. Berbers are a good ally as they give allies genitours.

  • @seyproductions
    @seyproductions Месяц назад

    My main civ, and yes I love Gold

  • @Pixelbuddha_
    @Pixelbuddha_ Месяц назад +1

    A bit sad that you didnt mention that the elite janissary is the last unit in the game with an attack delay of 0
    You can literally shoot with jannissaries while walking, if you do it correctly

    • @Dhomden
      @Dhomden Месяц назад

      Janissary analysis inc

  • @TeutonicEmperor1198
    @TeutonicEmperor1198 Месяц назад +1

    Seriously the last review about Teutons didn't even include their +2 melee armour for barracks and stables units

    • @SvanTowerMan
      @SvanTowerMan Месяц назад

      That's because they didn't have it until DE.

  • @ottokarl5427
    @ottokarl5427 Месяц назад +1

    Turks becoming useless as soon as they run out of gold seems unintentionally historically correct with the Ottoman Empire...
    Also, idea for another list: Civs that are the least (or most) dependend on Castles (either for units or upgrades).

    • @teddyhaines6613
      @teddyhaines6613 Месяц назад

      Castle dependency depends on the game state, but in general you need them more if you either depend on the unique unit for your army or lack bombard cannons to push enemy castles in lieu of trebs.

  • @TheOhioNews
    @TheOhioNews Месяц назад

    Spirit of the Law is going to be able to retire soon with all these side hustles. But I hope he doesn't because I love this channel ❤

  • @Wicker0Man
    @Wicker0Man Месяц назад

    Spirit of the Gold

  • @victorperepchik7888
    @victorperepchik7888 Месяц назад +1

    Thx

  • @TimClauson
    @TimClauson Месяц назад +1

    when will Genitour become a prt of the conversation? same as seige tower, and missionary

    • @corpussakahagi2116
      @corpussakahagi2116 Месяц назад

      Genitours only become relevant if you have a Berber ally when playing as Turks.

  • @et34t34fdf
    @et34t34fdf Месяц назад

    Long range BBT is fine, but Portuguese BBT shooting fast was a problem, somehow.

  • @BeetsPerSecond
    @BeetsPerSecond Месяц назад

    Cheeky SotL, with the curveball. Probably having a good laugh now.

  • @jimchen3762
    @jimchen3762 Месяц назад

    Hi Law, spirit of a guy here

  • @nilslukacs1478
    @nilslukacs1478 Месяц назад

    Somebody please make a "transition to squarspace" compilation :)

  • @evan752
    @evan752 Месяц назад +1

    I hope this video explains why Constantinople got the works

  • @21Elyesa07
    @21Elyesa07 Месяц назад

    Spirit of the Law can u make a Tier list pls!:)

  • @irfandurmus1
    @irfandurmus1 Месяц назад +1

    Turks need Elite Skirmisher/Pikeman or new techs/bonuses.

  • @shnoogums1
    @shnoogums1 Месяц назад +1

    :)) thanks guy

  • @TheFella69
    @TheFella69 Месяц назад +1

    Watch more SOTL than I play AOE 2 these days

  • @lizardemperorkorbac4281
    @lizardemperorkorbac4281 Месяц назад

    Age of Empires videos must be quite the hustle, if trading gold is only your side business.

  • @Doktersocks
    @Doktersocks Месяц назад +4

    You're getting unpredictable now.

  • @offroadturkey
    @offroadturkey Месяц назад

    I love playing Turks! I play vs ai and love getting massive jannisary numbers!

  • @Gerrit2686
    @Gerrit2686 Месяц назад

    Hm.. But some time ago you compared the trash-units and the take home message was something like: : Even if not upgraded, the trash can still fill their role

    • @historymax5479
      @historymax5479 Месяц назад

      It becomes a big problem when you're using them as a main damage-dealer instead of a support unit, like in post imp trash wars.

  • @Rika101OfficialYT
    @Rika101OfficialYT Месяц назад +1

    Ah, Turkiye...land of Hagia Sophia, Turkish delight and Arda Guler.

    • @Aphelia.
      @Aphelia. Месяц назад

      Don't forget the cats

  • @Name-fc8sk
    @Name-fc8sk Месяц назад

    im only here for the spirt of luster, but the ad for the Turks was nice

    • @drifter5875
      @drifter5875 Месяц назад

      Spirit of the luster is legit? I thought it was a joke

  • @yamchadragonball6983
    @yamchadragonball6983 Месяц назад

    Haven't played and payed attention in ages, wonder how my Chinese are doing these days? :)

  • @7vlusic
    @7vlusic Месяц назад +1

    Wonder why you never get bored on this game 😂 I play this game when I'm on kindergarten now I'm 20++

  • @jaikumar848
    @jaikumar848 Месяц назад +1

    Hi SOTL , please make video on red phosphoru and its strategies

  • @oivinf
    @oivinf Месяц назад +6

    I'll be honest, I don't like the Janissary. It's a strong and confusing unit which is a bad combination for less skilled players to play with AND against. It looks too much like a hand cannoneer while not playing like one at all
    Edit: I'd prefer the Janissary being a unique replacement for the hand cannoneer that works more like a slightly differentiated HC available in castle, and having a completely different UU instead

  • @WhitedeathSN
    @WhitedeathSN Месяц назад

    I have seen TV series that changed their epic intro music like underwear, this man uses the soundtrack until every last one of its haters loves it ^^

  • @jamesmattila-hine1133
    @jamesmattila-hine1133 Месяц назад

    I do not remember unlock hand cannons and unlock bombard cannons.
    Was that in the original Age of Kings but removed in the first expansion?

    • @hitmanx200
      @hitmanx200 Месяц назад

      I remember some of those still being in HD edition

    • @UnDeaDCyBorg
      @UnDeaDCyBorg Месяц назад

      I believe the Hand Cannon was made more accessible in response to a popular tactic of an Imperial Champion Rush.
      That would have been very early in the game, probably around the Conquerors.
      I think the original version also gave chemistry earlier than Imp, but that may be fuzzy memory.

  • @ChargingEve
    @ChargingEve Месяц назад

    Hi tendons, spirit of the law here. Today it is all about the Turks.

  • @outdra
    @outdra Месяц назад +2

    missed opportunity to make the ad segue Spirit Of The Au

  • @hau410929
    @hau410929 Месяц назад

    如果回到1999 帝王世紀的版本
    我會推薦土耳其文明成為第6個長篇戰役

  • @pbsoccer2
    @pbsoccer2 Месяц назад +1

    Would Turks having elite skirm make them OP?

  • @bunny_wilder
    @bunny_wilder Месяц назад +2

    That's not how you spell Teutons, Mr. Law

  • @petrpinc7695
    @petrpinc7695 Месяц назад

    Civ overview without UU overview first? Mr. Sotl seems to have dinned a funny porridge.

  • @ahbraveconscript997
    @ahbraveconscript997 Месяц назад

    *Quick Look At The Monks*!