Charli Baltimore: Irv Gotti Told Ja Rule to Ignore 50 Cent's Disses, That was a Mistake (Part 21)
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Charli Baltimore reflected on the rise of 50 Cent and the beef with Ja Rule. She confirmed appearing on one of 50's early mixtapes, which revolved around the feud. Baltimore says she even released her own diss mixtape. As things escalated, Murder Inc.'s office was raided by federal authorities. The artist said she remained focused on her own work amid the turmoil. Baltimore also criticized Murder Inc.'s CEO, Irv Gotti, suggesting he underestimated 50 Cent's growing support in the street, leading to missed opportunities to 'nip it in the bud.' She felt Ja Rule’s failed response was too late, and had he responded sooner, the outcome might have been different. Baltimore concluded that the mentality of Invincibility at Murder Inc. at that time was a downfall.
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Irv was probably like “don’t respond. We’ll do him like puff did pac.” It just didn’t pan out that way
💯 percent
You right
Haha
Yeah 50 didn’t quit! PAC only quit becuase he died I don’t think pac would’ve destroyed bad boy because big was great rapper…
From what I heard, biggie was planning on leaving bad boy
50 had a whole machine behind him. I don’t think going back to back wouldn’t worked either
thats fair and probably correct
50 didn't have a machine in 2000. That's where Murder Inc drop the ball.
Ja should have dropped diss records and definitely had Black Child or Cadillac Tah on the records to give it more street credibility
@@hmosesmamulu6491you smart
@@hmosesmamulu6491that’s stupid why would they diss 50 in 2000 when nobody knew who he was and Ja was HOT in 2000? Then u would be blowing him up for sure! That’s like Jay Z coming out in 2023 dissing a underground dude because he dissed him. It sounds nice and we all playing Monday QB because we know what 50 will become but nah!
@@IsmokeHiphopLiveno he’s not
But shouts to Ja for making the phrase Clap Back popular tho
I actually never thought about it because People were already saying Clap Back. But you’re right that song may have popularized it
Shout to 50 for making the term, "Wanksta" popular. Not sure if he invented it but fa sho nobody outside of Southside Jamaica ever heard it.
Eminem created the word "Stan"
Just how nas made ether as a verb,that how 50 cent made ja rule name as a verb like u got ja ruled
@@lukekhalid896dick riding 50
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50 cents came at Jay-Z with a diss and Jay-Z responded on stage at summer jam with " I'm about a dollar who the fuck is 50 cents".
“You gonna brag about your chips, until we run in your crib.”
“Then you gonna ask dumb questions like…Can I live?”-50
@@TDashem "They said they don't know me internationally, n!gg@s on the road did" ~ Jay Z
And your point?
ignoring 50 and continue making hits would have worked. dissin 50, em, and dre was the mistake
As a pale biracial woman myself, I'll never forgive 50 for saying Charlie looks like she died last week😩😂
Stop being a groupie, Charlie still sexy af. She aged well.
Lmao
😂😂😂😂
I feel you sis 😭😂
Lmao 🤣
The problem was there's was nothing Ja Rule or Murder Inc was going to do to stop the rise of 50 Cent especially after he Link up with Dr Dre and Eminem who was the biggest rapper in the game at that point
Em is still the biggest rapper man, who's bigger ?
@@Sti11Loading659 who's relevant ? Drake ? Hahaha
They literally tried the Puff/2pac strategy but it didn’t quite work out. 50 became Pac after Quad shooting. Took Supremes best shots and survived. Became a bit of an urban legend to the white kids.
@v-kingzbeats7221 while you trying to be funny drakes catalog is way harder than Eminem. When is the last time someone played Eminem in the club at a party or the radio? Foh..Drake been going hard for bout 15 years straight.
@@Shiftnlift damn no club is playin Vinnie Paz and he is even harder, but who cares 😉
50 had 2 goals in life at that time: Become successful and shutdown Murder Inc by any means necessary. 50 was relentless and had nothing to lose. There was nothing Irv and Ja could do about it.
He indirectly was shutting down preme who he had street beef with
Exactly
😂 very accurate 🤙🏿
And snitched on Preme, to get Murder Inc muscle out the way.
The world chose 50. Irv bragged about getting 50 blackballed from the industry only for Murder inc as a whole to be blackballed after the feds raided their offices and froze their assets so they can't help Preme.
As 50 himself said- associating with someone of Preme's status made them a liability, but Irv wanted to be gangsta so badly that he stuck to his guns to the bitter end.
“You had a whole mixtape dissing 50”
“Yes I did”. Ain’t nobody hear that bullshit!
I heard about it on a 50 vs Ja Rule video
@@avace917Did you hear the actual mixtape
@@bigolbabyhuey I did not hear it. That's why I said I heard about it. Guess I worded it wrong
I remember on the Beef📀back then when they asked Ja Rule abt 50 Cent and he answered sarcastically "Who?"... they asked him again and he said "Who?" lollll. That 50 🌪swept everything in its path shortly after including the whole Murder Inc. record label
Lol yea and he called 50 and buddy hustler meanin he chant names to eat of niggaz plates wit his quote “make a nigga die it’s nothing,make a nigga die breathing then u sayin something “ lol I watched that dvd a zillion times
@@stizzle8174I remember that quote😂😂😂
“My back shots'll help Ashanti hit them high notes
And Big been taught Charli B'More to deep throat”
When you at the top it’s only one way to go and that’s down. When you winning a lot. Ppl want to see someone else win. That’s what happen to Ja.
Truth is Ja could've come back immediately and hard and people would've still only seen him as that hook singing pop rapper versus 50 the real goon. Vlad is right, Ja should've stayed focused on making commercial hits and moving numbers. Soon as Murder Ink fell off it opened the door for a list of rappers to start doing that same crossover rap style and cashing in big (Nelly, Fabulous, Chamillionaire, Flo-Rida, etc)
@@Sti11Loading659nelly was him aagaha
I wish that Charlie Baltimore mixtape dissing 50 Cent would be released.
Clap back has got to be the worst response ever 😂
I liked Clap back, I think It came out to late, 50 was already to huge by then.
Crown was better
Word I remember back then thinking when he dropped clap back.. he waited to long, and it wasn't hard
The song definitely was hard but just was too late
That track was lame as fuck it was a good laugh 😂
Kim went crazy on Charli 50 spoke facts on charli
Before I even watch the interview,Salute to Charlie Baltimore!She went hard💪🏾💯
I remember on the BEEF DVD the interviewer asked Ja “what’s going on with this cat 50”!? And Ja was like “Who”? That’s how Ja and Murder Inc felt at the time that 50 wasn’t bigger enough to diss back. But just like the pale lady just said 50 was getting bigger and bigger so I get both.
Pale lady LoL. I call her Morticia 🕸️🕷️
It’s really hard to know what was the best response. Because Jay Z has taken the approach to ignore certain artists at times as well. Ja tried the same approach with 50 and it cost him.
@@MichaelElam2good point... its hard to say what is the best route to take.
Its really hard to say which course is the best route... say your name and make you famous... or let you keep saying my name until you are famous
Pale lady 😂😂😂
Charli Baltimore is fiiiiiiiiiiiine 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I agree, but she looks like a heavy smoker. 🚬
LOL!!
I’m just saying.
I’m doing a Ja Rule vs 50 Cent Verzuz Tonight…Both 50 and ja rule are legends
As soon as ja rule did that song “clap back” it was over after that.
Clap back was hard but the machine had took over
@@kidwray4313 facts 💯
@@kidwray4313Clap Back beat was hard.The song was trash along wit the video😂😂🤦🏿♂️
@@markmercado89 yea he wasn’t spitting on that MF he shoulda put Charlie on there
Clap back sound like a song u fight to on def jam ffny
I thought ja could’ve went full ladies route but even ll responded to canibus
This the ART OF DIALOGUE interview remix
There’s a saying if you ignore a small problem it’ll turn into a big problem. That’s what it did and it was too much to handle at that point. Murder Inc lost touch and thought everything was sweet. If it was anybody else it might’ve worked but 50 was and is a different type of animal.
They put a hit out on him then Irv tried to blackball him.. They never ignored Fif they just underestimated him
*50 Gets da last laugh!*
Didn't Ja dissed 50 first on BET Rap City?
Plus, it was a mistake for Baltimore to make a diss song towards 50. It was an A for effort but F for Charli's disses.
Ja dissed 50 on a track Pop Niggas on his last temptation album. Right after wanksta started getting heavy rotation on radio
And irv gotti and ja rule was calling 50 and yayo a 🐀 on hot 97 and what caused 50 and g-unit to make that mixtape automatic gunfire bombing on the whole murder inc
@@ishmaelpeah6623 It wasn't Ja's freestyle on Rap City or his diss on 50 and DMX from the Last Temptation album?
Ja was super big headed on that Beef dvd. 50 dissed Pun (Pun responded). Gotti thought he was too good to diss a street rapper with some mixtapes (big mistake)
I remember on that Beef 📀when they asked Ja Rule abt 50 Cent and he said "Who?"... they asked him again and he said "Who?" lol. That 50 🌪 swept everything its path shortly after including the whole Murder Inc. record label
He responded several times though.
And that was the mistake 😂😂
Ja couldn’t say nothing back the feds was watching
Finally someone says what i was thinking..... Although clap back was ja official response to 50 and others he had dropped different diss on mix tapes before clap back...... once clap back came out people kinda ran towards 50 already.
Lesson: Never wake a sleeping giant
Yeah he had one call loose change I believe
SNITCHING giant *
Fucking clown@@heavyizthacrown-5842
It wasn’t anything murder inc could do. Do it early or ignore it. 50 was coming regardless. People were starting to get kinda tired of ja by then.
Ppl forgot how Ja had hits
JaRule attacked first when he went after Hailey
Damn Vlad questions be so long-winded pretty soon he gonna be releasing videos of his questions in segments too
Blood in my eye was ok, but yeah, Ja Rule waited too long to come back and it was too late.
The whole first minute was the question
But irv wanted Nas to ride through the ghetto of Baltimore make it make sense
I still say we need a G unit murder inc vs 🤷🏽♀️
She a legend but DAMNNN on the other side of Hit Em Up & I Smell Pussssss is hurtful 😂🙁🤷🏽♂️
Music was changing. It was undeniable and add to the fact Em & Dre was backing him.
People forgetting Irv Gotti and Murder Inc was under investigation by the feds so thats what gave 50 the green light with diss records.
Damn Vlad a minute long question? Wtf!!!
I don't think it would have mattered, 50 was something different at that time .. And you was dealing with a man with nothing to lose.
Her song with Mobb ;Deep is my joint.
Vlads all excited yelling. 😂
Ja couldn't win if he wanted too, 50 was in beast mode, ja was against 50, em, d12, busta, x and dre
Charli’s right, by the time murder inc paid attention to 50 properly “in da club” just dropped
I never liked Ja's whole wannabe Tupac aura from the start in the "can i get a.." video so it was lovely when 50 came on the scene and started picking him apart. "Murdaaaa..." 🤣🤣
"2Pac cut his head bald,u wanna cut yo head bald!!! 2Pac wore a bandana,u wanna wear a bandana!!! 2Pac put crosses on his back,u wanna put crosses on yo back!!! U ain't 2Pac!!! Nigga,this 2Pac"- 50 Cent Realest Killaz
Blood in my eye is a classic pity he responded to 50s disses too late on that album....
It was to late us in Ny was sick of murder inc. radio kept playing them back to back and we needed change it was to much singing and soft 50cent was like our 2 pac and savior for gangster rap he had us the streets supporting the gunit movement the streets never lose Ja had no chance to survive 😂
Finally someone is speaking TRUTH about the whole situation🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
And then 50 took Ja style after he dismantled him. Y’all NY cats kinda messed up for that
@@MichaelElam2he already had that melodic style in his arsenal
SNITCH 50. A clown!!!!!!! Poser
It was anything Irv could have did to stop 50
Learn English and stop embarrassing your loved ones
Ja rule involved in that room with combs😂😂
“BIG been told Charlie be more then deep throat”-50 Cent
I still love this woman
S*** I never knew that never herd one song of her dissing 50
foolish was the biggest song from that label
Irv Gotti and ja y'all can't go against the hottest rappers in the planet Eminem 50cent c'mon man 😂😂😂
What I don't get is what's good music or just new wave hype? Cause if it really sounds good, lyrics on point, etc people wouldn't care if another artist is dissing you. Your true fans would still rock with you. Example: No matter how big Jay was he couldn't body Nas cause Nas's talent spoke for itself. Pac and Suge couldn't body Dre because Dre eventually came back with hits. Rather than responding he let his work speak for itself
But like method man said
Fans are fickle
At that point people wanted something Harder than what ja was giving them and a lot of fans unfortunately took sides .
Ja had a legendary run. He's definitely underappreciated. But 50 just came in like a kamikaze pilot and irv and ja let it happen.
Plus once 50 had the whole rap division of interscope from em to Xzibit jump rule thrn they even got Busta Rhymes involved
The inc didn't have the spitters to complete with all that and outside of ja ...Ashanti was the only hitmaker so what exactly could they do plus ja was never considered the most lyrical dude ever.
He wasa slouch but he wasn't nas or Jay.
Had irv got nas.....I think thst was thier only shot
The Feds literally shut down Murder Inc. not 50. Ya’ll crazy
Ja shouldn’t of responded. Not even alittle bit and kept doing his thing.
Tbh I never heard of her even at that time back then. I use to watch bet and mtv but never heard any music from her.
Weird. You weren’t really there
She had a joint back in 1998 titled Money. She even performed it on Soul Train.
She has a Dj Premier track called "Everybody Wanna Know" I bump that...largely because of preemo he can make anyone sound good."Money" aint bad either...man they use to spend money on some videos back then.
You’re probably under 35 that’s why. That’s not a diss or anything.
A whole mixtape that nobody heard
Yall gotta remember, when dre is involved, yall should had yall 👀👀👀👀 open
Chuck B more
Respond how?? Rule ain't have no ammo 🤷🏾♂️
Her shirt says free what?
According to Ja Rule Blood in my eye was originally supposed to be mixtape but see Def Jam saw it as money opportunity.
Vlad's views are going down. He can’t get anyone recent on the show…. With all the drama goin on in hiphop, no one’s going to Vlad. So now he gotta chop these clips up into 40-50 parts
‘My back shots 'll help Ashanti hit them high notes
And Big been taught Charli B'More to deep throat’
50 cent on love me
Another interview where she “don’t know anything”😂
When Ja finally responded with “Loose Change” he spelled “Murder Inc” wrong in his own song 😂
“By the M-U-R-E-D-R Inc”
Great diss track though.
@@PaOwen1991 indeed, he got on Dre, 50 and Em’s ass he just couldn’t maintain
I swear I noticed that when I first heard it back then I rewound that shit like wtf
That was done on purpose. A way to circumvent legal response.
@@flymaluguy naw that nigga can’t spell
50 was the better diss rapper.
Ja isn’t a lyricist like dat.
And 50 was too hot to ignore.
Ja wasn’t ready and he didn’t play chess 🤷🏿♂️
Loose change....
50 was too paranoid to be a sitting duck like B.I.G
He also egged Jay-Z to make supa ugly. Irving Lorenzo is not built for beef.
"Blood in my Eye" was pure trash
Unconditional conversion! Rick Ross beat 50 Cent and no one likes to do videos about it. Ja run was over anyway 50 just made it more painful, these people live in a bubble, Ja audience was my sister and clubs they didn’t care about the beef.
Irv knew, just like everybody else, that Ja couldn’t compete with 50 in the booth. He actually probably prolonged Ja’s career with that advice.
50 had a new mixtape and a new song every week
🙄🙄🙄
Ja rule is a better mc pound for pound. 50 can’t rap.
However 50 makes better hits.
@@mattyamweelo602750 can't rap lol yet Power of the Dollar is lyrically better than anything Ja ever put out. Em even said when he first heard 50 rap and that album and mixtapes he wanted to quit rapping because was nice. Both in their primes 50 would destroy Ja lyrically maybe you should actually learn your hip hop history and learn how to know who is lyrically better.
@@GodslayerSeiya ja rule is the better mc. 50 is a better artist.
By the time Ja dissed 50 back Wanksta & In Da Club was already big too late Ja
Clap back was a wack stil 😅
50 cent meets Eminem & Dr DRE. It’s was OVER for Ja rule. A
pain is love 2 is ja's lowest selling LP
🥷 can talk all the ish they want but a lot of people was scared of 50
Charlie is still fine as fuck !! ❤❤
Awkward memory they dissed first on the radio with Star and Buc on hot 97 before he even released his album on shady/aftermath I don’t even think Wanksta had hit yet … just the mixtapes … they stated he was fake and a restraining order .. they got what they asked for don’t make excuses own the L and the music was never that good and the image they played was alway corny
This old news 🗞️
Didn’t those two fight? They did more than what most these 🐈⬛ ass rappers do and squared off instead of talking tough on records. I’m not impressed with what these dudes say on the M-I-C!!
A whole mixtape 🦗
Never heard it
She still cute 😂😂😅
ONE CAME OUT ON PURE TALENT AND THE OTHER CAME OUT DISSING .I LOVE JA ❤.
Ja also piggybacked off the fact people thought he sounded like X and then he started dissing X because ppl kept comparing him
@@BiG_Daddy_Hollingsworth_843 he can't help who he sounded like. That's not piggybacking: They also don't sound anything alike. They just both got raspy voices..but ok.
@@AshockaBlack it's not piggybacking because of his voice, it's piggybacking because he was conscious of the fact that people thought they sounded alike and that his music was picking up a buzz because DMX was the hottest thing in Rap at the time and instead of creating an obvious separation he used his relationship with irv to befriend X and then when he felt he was hot enough stabbed him In the back, the same way Jay used both of them to sell out a tour and kicked them both in the ass when he became president of Def Jam
@@BiG_Daddy_Hollingsworth_843 There is no proof of that's how it happened: unlike the other case but whatever...uh huh ok.
@@AshockaBlack u would make a good lawyer man
What up gotti!
The trio of 50, EM and Dre was too powerful. 50 was talented and super creative. The Murder Inc roster was not strong enough. Song writing went down hill.
Ja's partner. Hey.. 🌈 🏳️🌈 breaking news
She stayed good for a redbone, they usually look like yoplait at her age
Come on man damn wtf
@@Cripsandbloodsaresellouts i aint lie
@@sickathanyouraverage4404 😂😂😂 🥛 🥛🥛🥛
There was nothing Ja could’ve done song wise to stop 50. The most he could’ve done was focus on making HIT records, but he couldn’t even do that besides New York. Charlie has been living a life of delusion for quite some time now, with all of these wouldve could’ve bullshit she’s been doin through the years. Let it go. You’re 50 years old love. Do something else in life besides talking about 50 Cent for the umpteenth time.
To be fair she was asked. But Ja Rule is gaslighting ppl into thinking the Fed case is what prevented Murder Inc. from responding to 50 Cent the way they wanted to. But in all fairness, 50's momentum was unlike any other so I don't think not even having to deal with a Fed case would've made any difference
As for as charli her studio hrs was a waste,she looks like she took a bag of flour on her face-PLK🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
50 Cent is what 2Pac wanted and invisioned to be
😂😂😂😂 other way around. 50 even says in his song I want them to love me like they love pac
2pac thug world wide 50cent was a queens local nigga
@@El_terrible1985 Pac was a busta
@@skullyready7786 😆😆😆 You act like 50 ain't worldwide. 50 can go anywhere. But besides that Pac was fake asf
@@3rdGenerationCancer so is you’re mother.
Charlie is just a bad chick.. still fine.. but talent wise.. meh
Yall woulda got smoked either way the mistake was ja thinking he could go toe to toe with a gang of lyrical monsters by himself and roster full of females.......remember ja got Eminem involved not 50 ja got Busta involved who was on aftermath at the time not 50 ja got Dre involved not 50 and then for some stupid reason ja goes at X around the same time and he jumps on team g-unit ja shoulda stuck to his singy song soccer mom tunes and ignored it whoever told him he was nice and could take on any of these guys did him very dirty