Hello and thank you for these great videos. I've been a carpenter most of my working years but I love rebuilding old car's and trucks. I attended an auto collision and paint school just after high school it was good but geared more towards main stream collision shops and not as much time in reworking metal as speedy replacement of factory panels. Dad was a mill Wright so I learned many skills but my knowledge of restoration technologies leaves much to be desired. You tube is awesome in that from what I have seen it is growing a new industrial revolution. Technologies and skill sets that were thrown on the scrap heap of time due to newer innovation are being revived. And younger generations are learning skills and merging old school craftsmanship with new. I've learned better ways to get better results in many of my projects and some of the old school ways I never knew existed. So keep on doing what you do so well I'm sure as more folks discover your channel it will rank very high. I'm waiting to see how things start to go when these super high tech super high priced vehicles of today reach the point of no return. The cost of replacing gizmo,s will put them out of reach. Already there are used car dealers with car's priced to high to sell. Due to the manufacturers using proprietary components of their own design most won't interchange and are extremely expensive. No one can afford to fix them. So they get recycled. Much their price as new is a buffer. Like the rebates that are just added in for the guy that trades in a broken down heap.
Over 15,000 views and only 33 comments? I'm surprised, but also it makes it easy for you to see my comment. I'm new to this hobby so I've never seen a shrinking disk before, but you made it very evident that a large area can be worked. That's pretty cool. Thanks for helping me see what options are out there.
Glad you are learning new things from my videos. Seems like my profession is a dying art, not many people watching and the next generation has no interest in learning these skills. Hopefully I will encourage someone to get out there and get their hands dirty and try something new. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment. The few subscribers I have make it worthwhile to make new videos. Brian
You certainly will not bore anyone with you techniques ! I find these tips very interesting, even though they are shown in real time, I have always used a flame to achieve this, but you have to be so quick not to put more distortion into the panel, one thing I would have really liked to see was a view of the area with a straight edge for comparison, like you started to do with the pencil, but after you had flattened the panel.
Don't worry there are more videos coming that will show before and after scenes. I am trying to keep the videos shorter based on some comments, so will have multiple videos to show the entire hood project.
I love this stuff, I am restoring a 56 GMC 3/4t and have made some body panels. Sandbag and hammer (well not a sandbag just sandy ground) I am going to make a hardwood buck to hammer out an elongated master cylinder opening to weld into the floorboard for accessing a dual master. My brother got six jeeps given to him from a guy who he tended his orchard for, and the dame guy who I learned auto mechanics from. He got 3 CJ2As 2 flat nose pick ups (one a 1 ton) and an FJ 170 (not sure about the 170 part, it is a long wheelbase) I am going to get all 3 CJs here, and try to make 2 out of the 3, and keep one for my labor.
Never seen that sort of fluted style shrinking disc before....just purchased a flat spun disc for a 4" grinder to try on a replacement door skin. Looking forward to trying that...good job.
The fluted disc you see in the video works much, much faster that the flat ones being sold these days. The little 4" discs work even slower. They do work though, so be patient when shrinking a big area, it will take some time.
That is the whole purpose of my videos.... getting people to stick with original parts and repair them themselves is great. Let me know if you have any questions along the way.
This is interesting. I started watching this because I just had my Jeep painted. a never in an accident jeep and now it has hood warping that looks like it has been straightened from being totaled... anyway I started watching for that then I got interested in the whole process. thanks for a fascinating video
Glad you enjoyed it. I always prefer to save the original stuff over buying reproduction junk from overseas. Took a while to get this back in shape but it is now perfect. Brian
Yes the hood was sandblasted to clean it down to white metal. Properly sandblasted parts won't warp if you are careful and know how to sandblast. I have sandblasted many parts and never warped a single one.
I can do a YJ project any time. I am not sure what you might find in your area as I am not familiar with Nova Scotia. Look for shrinking discs on ebay.
Awesome work and videos, Brian! I have a Bantam trailer with a solid floor that has sagged between the supports. Would you recommend a shrinking disc be used on the underneath side of the trailer? Should it be hammered back first, then shrunk? Thanks for the help. Randy
Yes they are all smooth now. Too many people used the one I show in the video and hurt themselves. The manufacturer decided a long time ago to stop making them and they can no longer be purchased. Smooth discs work but they don't shrink as fast. Another case of a few people ruining it for everyone.
@@metalshaperJeep It was invented by a California bodyman in the early Eighties, and were widely advertised in resto publications of the day. However, by the late Eighties, they were nowhere to be found. I called Eastwood and was told they'd been dropped for safety reasons.
Is there a way to do this with out cutting the hood in half? I have a gradual bow inward from the sides of the hood. I have a shrinking disc but am wondering if that is the best way to go after it? Thanks!
Depends on how bad the hood is. I don't always split them in half unless they are in real bad shape like the one in the video. If yours isn't too bad you may be able to do your shrinking with the hood in one piece.
@@metalshaperJeep I tried a little hammer on dolly first, that made some big oil canning and 2 large waves and ridges on each side of the hood. Also made the metal feel very thin. I assume I should try to go after it with the shrinking disc and go after the ridges from both sides of the hood. Thanks!
Try caustic soda or Oakite with boiling water with gloves and safety face shield shield let soak shake tank drain and steam clean. And see what goes . Might need to repeat. 🙌🔔🔔🔔 .
You mention "you can't over shrink using a disc" what about on a low crown panel such as a roof? My roof has been jumped on, is very flimsy and is oil canning. I have a large disc I could run over the roof to find and shrink high spots, which may help to stop oil canning but worried I might overshrink and make it worse
don't worry about overshrinking the roof. Using the disc is a slow process and it is easy to shrink down stretched areas. Keep checking your progress and soon the roof will be tightened up and no more oil canning. You won't overshrink so jump in and get started.
you can find shrink discs on Ebay, or the Eastwood Company. The style I use has not been available for years due to too many people filing lawsuits when they misused it and got hurt. You will only find smooth discs with a safety edge these days.
the shrinking disc I am using in the video is no longer made. Too many people were not careful and cut themselves so the company went out of business. You can get smooth discs now with a flanged edge but they don't work as well as the fluted one shown in the video. You can check ebay or the internet for shrinking discs and you should be able to find something.
I usually just repair old hoods, but if I have to make a new one I just use an old, original hood as a reference. To make an accurate, original looking hood takes a lot of time, patience and skill.
Glad you are watching some of my other older videos, and enjoying them. Spread the word about them so more people can find and view them. Thanks for being a continued supporter of my channel.
Yes, it is very hard for people to understand the time and effort that go into sheet metal work. Hoping to get people to understand what it takes. Brian
Hello and thank you for these great videos. I've been a carpenter most of my working years but I love rebuilding old car's and trucks. I attended an auto collision and paint school just after high school it was good but geared more towards main stream collision shops and not as much time in reworking metal as speedy replacement of factory panels. Dad was a mill Wright so I learned many skills but my knowledge of restoration technologies leaves much to be desired. You tube is awesome in that from what I have seen it is growing a new industrial revolution. Technologies and skill sets that were thrown on the scrap heap of time due to newer innovation are being revived. And younger generations are learning skills and merging old school craftsmanship with new. I've learned better ways to get better results in many of my projects and some of the old school ways I never knew existed. So keep on doing what you do so well I'm sure as more folks discover your channel it will rank very high. I'm waiting to see how things start to go when these super high tech super high priced vehicles of today reach the point of no return. The cost of replacing gizmo,s will put them out of reach. Already there are used car dealers with car's priced to high to sell. Due to the manufacturers using proprietary components of their own design most won't interchange and are extremely expensive. No one can afford to fix them. So they get recycled. Much their price as new is a buffer. Like the rebates that are just added in for the guy that trades in a broken down heap.
Over 15,000 views and only 33 comments? I'm surprised, but also it makes it easy for you to see my comment. I'm new to this hobby so I've never seen a shrinking disk before, but you made it very evident that a large area can be worked. That's pretty cool. Thanks for helping me see what options are out there.
Glad you are learning new things from my videos. Seems like my profession is a dying art, not many people watching and the next generation has no interest in learning these skills. Hopefully I will encourage someone to get out there and get their hands dirty and try something new. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment. The few subscribers I have make it worthwhile to make new videos.
Brian
@@metalshaperJeep
I'm going to order a disk tomorrow & give it a shot! thanks for the info
thanks for showing how shrinking disks actually work. It was a bit of a mystery but not anymore :)
You certainly will not bore anyone with you techniques ! I find these tips very interesting, even though they are shown in real time, I have always used a flame to achieve this, but you have to be so quick not to put more distortion into the panel, one thing I would have really liked to see was a view of the area with a straight edge for comparison, like you started to do with the pencil, but after you had flattened the panel.
Don't worry there are more videos coming that will show before and after scenes. I am trying to keep the videos shorter based on some comments, so will have multiple videos to show the entire hood project.
I love this stuff, I am restoring a 56 GMC 3/4t and have made some body panels. Sandbag and hammer (well not a sandbag just sandy ground) I am going to make a hardwood buck to hammer out an elongated master cylinder opening to weld into the floorboard for accessing a dual master. My brother got six jeeps given to him from a guy who he tended his orchard for, and the dame guy who I learned auto mechanics from. He got 3 CJ2As 2 flat nose pick ups (one a 1 ton) and an FJ 170 (not sure about the 170 part, it is a long wheelbase) I am going to get all 3 CJs here, and try to make 2 out of the 3, and keep one for my labor.
glad you enjoyed the video. Sounds like a great deal on the Jeeps. I have plenty of other videos out there if you need to see how things are done.
@@metalshaperJeep Thanks I do enjoy the videos. I am catching up, just finished the gas tank series.
Never seen that sort of fluted style shrinking disc before....just purchased a flat spun disc for a 4" grinder to try on a replacement door skin. Looking forward to trying that...good job.
The fluted disc you see in the video works much, much faster that the flat ones being sold these days. The little 4" discs work even slower. They do work though, so be patient when shrinking a big area, it will take some time.
Thanks.
They appeared in the early Eighties, but were taken off the market due to safety issues.
I just found your channel and subscribed immediately. I am currently making room indoors for my 2a. Thanks for the motivation! Will in wash.
Very good shrinking disc demo. Thank you for making it.
Thanks for watching and commenting, glad you enjoyed the video. Be careful when using a disc and keep watching for more videos.
Good stuff. I've never seen it explained quite so well. Gives me inspiration to try to straighten the hood on my old Willys.
That is the whole purpose of my videos.... getting people to stick with original parts and repair them themselves is great. Let me know if you have any questions along the way.
This is interesting. I started watching this because I just had my Jeep painted. a never in an accident jeep and now it has hood warping that looks like it has been straightened from being totaled... anyway I started watching for that then I got interested in the whole process. thanks for a fascinating video
Lefty, glad you are enjoying the video. Check out some others, you may find them interesting as well. Keep watching there are many more videos coming.
I didn't even know they made discs like that deffinetly a time saver👍
The disc I am using in the video is no longer being made or sold. Too many careless people and lawyers have ruined it for everyone.
I had a nut come loose and metal disc go flying. Very scary. Always check nut is tight before using
best to check disc every half hour or so. Use lots of caution when shrinking.
ok thank you.love your tips on working metal
If you can't get a fluted disc anymore, try a circular piece of diamond tread plate.
Turning junk into gold ..nice job and great info ...
Glad you enjoyed it. I always prefer to save the original stuff over buying reproduction junk from overseas. Took a while to get this back in shape but it is now perfect.
Brian
Aside from the creases it looks like this panel was sand blasted. That will cause a large area to warp a normally straight area
Yes the hood was sandblasted to clean it down to white metal. Properly sandblasted parts won't warp if you are careful and know how to sandblast. I have sandblasted many parts and never warped a single one.
Interesting stuff..!! Can you do a project on a YJ in the future...? Where could I find shaping moulds to do the same thing in Nova Scotia...??
I can do a YJ project any time. I am not sure what you might find in your area as I am not familiar with Nova Scotia. Look for shrinking discs on ebay.
Awesome work and videos, Brian! I have a Bantam trailer with a solid floor that has sagged between the supports. Would you recommend a shrinking disc be used on the underneath side of the trailer? Should it be hammered back first, then shrunk? Thanks for the help. Randy
You can usually get the floor back in shape by hammering it flat. If any further shrinking is necessary the disc will work very well.
Amazing! I wish I could see it in person!
Quite interesting! You are an artist with metal! TY
Where do you buy this scrinking disc? Most of the one's that I've seen are smooth.
Yes they are all smooth now. Too many people used the one I show in the video and hurt themselves. The manufacturer decided a long time ago to stop making them and they can no longer be purchased. Smooth discs work but they don't shrink as fast. Another case of a few people ruining it for everyone.
@@metalshaperJeep It was invented by a California bodyman in the early Eighties, and were widely advertised in resto publications of the day. However, by the late Eighties, they were nowhere to be found. I called Eastwood and was told they'd been dropped for safety reasons.
@@r.j.dunnill1465 yes I am familiar with the history and downfall of this item. Too many people got hurt and ruined it for those of us that need them.
Is there a way to do this with out cutting the hood in half?
I have a gradual bow inward from the sides of the hood. I have a shrinking disc but am wondering if that is the best way to go after it?
Thanks!
Depends on how bad the hood is. I don't always split them in half unless they are in real bad shape like the one in the video. If yours isn't too bad you may be able to do your shrinking with the hood in one piece.
@@metalshaperJeep I tried a little hammer on dolly first, that made some big oil canning and 2 large waves and ridges on each side of the hood. Also made the metal feel very thin. I assume I should try to go after it with the shrinking disc and go after the ridges from both sides of the hood. Thanks!
Where can i buy a shrinking disc
Try caustic soda or Oakite with boiling water with gloves and safety face shield shield let soak shake tank drain and steam clean. And see what goes . Might need to repeat. 🙌🔔🔔🔔 .
You mention "you can't over shrink using a disc" what about on a low crown panel such as a roof? My roof has been jumped on, is very flimsy and is oil canning. I have a large disc I could run over the roof to find and shrink high spots, which may help to stop oil canning but worried I might overshrink and make it worse
don't worry about overshrinking the roof. Using the disc is a slow process and it is easy to shrink down stretched areas. Keep checking your progress and soon the roof will be tightened up and no more oil canning. You won't overshrink so jump in and get started.
Would this work on a hood that has been warped strecthed by sandblasting ?
yes, it will work great on your hood.
awsome video! where do they sell that disc at?
you can find shrink discs on Ebay, or the Eastwood Company. The style I use has not been available for years due to too many people filing lawsuits when they misused it and got hurt. You will only find smooth discs with a safety edge these days.
I have thought for some time that a shrinking disc is a tool I need in my arsenal. Where do you get yours from?
All the best!
Mike
the shrinking disc I am using in the video is no longer made. Too many people were not careful and cut themselves so the company went out of business. You can get smooth discs now with a flanged edge but they don't work as well as the fluted one shown in the video. You can check ebay or the internet for shrinking discs and you should be able to find something.
metalshaper they are still forsale at sunchaser in Pasadena
It doesn't work for me. When I hit the spot I want to shrink it sinks. I've tried for days fucking with this. It's super frustrating.
Thanks!
is the repair not more work than making a new one?
A lot of information thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Do you have a pattern to make new hood?
I usually just repair old hoods, but if I have to make a new one I just use an old, original hood as a reference. To make an accurate, original looking hood takes a lot of time, patience and skill.
Very Informative!
Glad you are watching some of my other older videos, and enjoying them. Spread the word about them so more people can find and view them. Thanks for being a continued supporter of my channel.
Brian, if you didn’t make this video the owner would never know the hour that went into it
Yes, it is very hard for people to understand the time and effort that go into sheet metal work. Hoping to get people to understand what it takes.
Brian
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