A Hard Look at VIOLENCE in the Comics with Frank Miller, Byrne, Sienkiewicz, and more!
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A Frog Is A Frog disturbed the shit outta' my 13 year old psyche! My introduction to Bissette until Swampy.
Ed, casually: "That last time I saw somebody get shot, it was this kinda deal."
Me: "So there have been MORE times??"
Hell yeah! I got this off the rack when I was a kid, huge influence on my developing brain.
This is the content we're here for, let's be honest!
Good looks calling out that Scott Dunbier is looking for art. I have a Veitch Swamp Thing page and a Bissette cover prototype. I hit him up a moment ago and gonna get him some scans 👍
@ 20:08 -- It took me several years of owning this magazine before I actually read this story start-to-finish (I usually just read the Hama and Bissette stories and admired the art for the rest). It's all summed up in the opening and closing movie reviews. The critic starts out as a hardcore crusader against gore movies. After killing the Hangman, the review on the last page has the critic praising and justifying the use of graphic violence in slasher movies. I believe the theme is that committing an act of violence fundamentally changes a person rather than simply viewing it. Fist, meet ham.
The cool thing about this story to me was that it's part of the Marvel Continuity. Hangman was a "Werewolf by Night" villain and this story is part of his character history in "The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe"!
"Straight Sybil Danning lookin' chick..." Those are truly great words to live by, Ed. Sigh, those were the days. I'm missing some Maria Ford myself xD.
The Nam magazine is good, and worth a visit to see Michael Golden's art bigger and in black and white.
Wow! Can hardly wait to see this one when I Get of work!
@ 26:57 that Bissette face Ed points to on the left page reminds me of Jim’s Rambo 3.5
I don’t know if I’ve seen this “confirmed” anywhere, but I always thought “Philistine” was Denny’s and Frank’s answer to the criticism that the Comics Journal published in those days. When Gary G interviewed Denny in TCJ, they got into an extended discussion about “art” vs. “commercial art.” The curator’s viewpoints sound an awful lot like GG’s …
While I own some B.A. issues, I've never seen this one. Will need to keep an eye out for it for the art. Thanks for sharing this one.
Your reviews are great as always, guys you deserve more subscribers cause the professional analysis of comic books.
I bought this off the stands when I was 13, and it blew my little mind (though you're right -- that Miller/O'Neill story is still a mess!)
I had my copy confiscated by my Latin Teacher. He gave it back after I pleaded my case that it was Parody.
I like SR Bissette's comic. It's actually *about* violence, in a thoughtful way. And the art is beautiful as always. The bottom panel of that ninth page is amazing. I've never seen anything like that.
I have that same flannel, Jim. Good taste! Lol.
Hey guys, Thanks for taking a look at this. I do agree it's a failure on the writing side, but I figured you guys would like the art, and | do agree the strongest pieces are the Hama ones. Recondo Rabbit sticks with me because it goes so hard on the Vietnam/PTSD on the writing side then doing it in funny animal form, it goes past funny to something kinda queasy and almost horrific for me, the way it contrasts between the two.
I promise if I suggest anything else again it will have better writing!
Take care, love the channel.
BIZARRE ADVENTURES was a unique collection of tales which launched characters like PARADOX by Bill Mantlo and STAR-LORD by Engalhart. The Horror issue has excellent work by Bissette in a wild Dracula origin tale. Keep the Kayfabe comin'!🖖♾
Huh, the rabbit war story is interesting. The concept reminds me of a manga called Cat Shit One which is a funny animal comic set in the Vietnam war.
That Art story is AMAZING ! I don't why you guys don't connect with it.
Good video boys 💪🏾
I can kind of see the point you're making at the end, but what is a short story that you might cite as a counter-point of having been well done?
Hey. Are those girls in Larry Hama's story the inspiration for Michael Golden's cover to Savage Tales #1?
I mean there's a side car and if I remember correctly one is blonde the other brunette.
You guys should do one on Jose Bea's Peter Hypnos stuff from Eerie.
Wow, my memories of this don't match up with the slightly negative take here. And since I recently ran across this issue when I was unboxing 20 shelves worth of magazine-sized comics, I'm going to go grab this and read it. Be back in 30. OK, yeah, don't get the negative comments. I saw things differently in cases. My take on the Herb Trimpe story was that this was kind of a parody of Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos (1963). I see the Vietnam parallels now that you point them out, but I still can't escape the Sgt Fury mirroring. But I read the whole thing through and enjoyed the trip back 40 years ago. And back then, I was sad that this was the last issue. This was the era where Marvel really was trying to make comics for adults (late 1970s through early 1980s), and I guess that market was just too small.
My counterpoint would be it's not that the market for adult comics was small, au contraire there were plenty of underground hits, and heavy metal and Warren Magazines make good bank and had great distribution on news stands along the US coasts. And that's not counting how in Canada we had access to 2000 AD collections and how the eastern provinces had access to the entire bande dessin market. No this is not an issue of the size of the market, this really is an issue of quality on the news stand and since this is bizarre adventures but not Marvel Epic Magazine quality and this is in the beginning of Shooter's era, it feels like there's a grokking for something and when you can get a Warren magazine on the same 1970's magazine block with anthology stories that are more "feature complete" as it were with a bigger bang for the bucks. And in a healthy robust market with a lot of choice you've got aim for a high bar after Metal Hurlant / Heavy Metal is the high water mark you'd have to compete against (which oddly enough with the B+W Conan magazine they kinda sorta did), and if you're work is kinda middling and confusing it ain't going to pass muster with the reader.