QB: Complains about tank only having 470 view range with premium consumables, calls it barley acceptable. Me: You can get tier 8 mediums to that much view range?!?
And quite often if you’re sitting in a bush and fire, get spotted, pull back, and wait 10 sec to get unspotted, it doesn’t matter what you’re rate of fire is. A Leo 1 for example would have to wait 10 seconds to fire again whereas this tank still only waits 12 seconds
11:41 Those are actually ATGM launchers. Fortunately, just like the T49 and Sheridan's real-life ability to launch an ATGM out of their 152mm guns, that capability isn't included in World of Tanks. The launchers are purely cosmetic. Also, watch out for a "122 TH" in the future as a Tier 10 reward tank. Would basically be the same as this except with better DPM, better acceleration and handling, and siege mode like the STB-1 and Swedish mediums. Because the original 122 prototype in real life had hydraulic transmission, hydropneumatic suspension, and hydraulic steering (thus being nicknamed "Triple Hydro"). Chinese industry wasn't capable of mass producing such technology at the time (it was doable on a hand-made prototype; the 122-1 actually existed), so they made a second downgraded prototype with conventional transmission, suspension, and steering. This was the 122-2, that was nicknamed "Triple Mechanical". I'm presuming that's why this premium has "TM" in its name. In reality, the second prototype didn't have the missile launchers, so cosmetically this premium is based on the original prototype. But stat-wise it's the downgraded second prototype. (Hopefully if Wargaming does that, it'll be as the next set of campaigns, or even a bonds shop tank. Or perhaps even the top of a new branch of the Chinese medium tech tree. It's a cool tank that I wouldn't mind seeing in the game, but I would want it to be accessible to more than just the elite players.)
The best I can get this reload time down to is about 13 seconds with brothers in arm crew, improved bounty rammer, vents, food, and rammer directive. This gets the DPM up to a whopping 1,800 give or take.
With bond rammer and vents + bia you can reach 1830 DPM which is equal to M4A1 Rev. without any equipment or bia. And Rev. isn't known for it's great DPM
Not really. It has some armor. Most relaible t8 gun. Reminds me of Lowe. Slow DPM but it delivers consistently also faster than lowe and more alpha damage.
Despite the reload, I love how this tank looks! A chinese medium tank with good accuracy, aimtime and gun depression combined with amazing turret armor will make this tank a hulldown monster in my opinion. This will for sure make a great birthday present for myself, and thank you for the review QB!
@@BlackoutGootraxian yeah but funny story, its way harder to pen 122tm turret frontally even with tier 10 gold than it is to pen maus turret, most of the time at least
Sometimes having lower dpm isn't such a bad thing . When you have a high dpm low alpha tank every second after realoading you don't fire you are losing dpm that makes you takes high risk shots which ends up killing you more quickly thus you don't do good damage either way. With a solid tank like this you get to have relaxed gameplay . You don't have constantly be hypervigilant about hitting enemy thus allowing you to make cool headed desicions that often results in you winning more.
I don't really focus much on dpm. Vk 75.01 k, amx cda 105, kannonenjagdpanzer are my fav tanks and they do have abysmal dpm. It really isn't that often that one can use dpm fully (mostly when someone rushes). And even if one would be to use dpm to dictate which one would win that wouldn't be so obvious. For example Maus has bad dpm but reliable armor and a ton of health. Let's say a obj140 is going 1v1 with full gold both of them so that all shots will penetrate. Maus has far more hp and would stand victorious in this duel. Therefore I suggest to look at tanks considering health times dpm. That would be the Combat Effectiveness (CE) where CE=DPM*HP/1000 (divided so we don't end up with millions). Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@@robinkhn2547 More like because the expectation would be to have a derp gun, and if it wasn't primarily derp they would get yelled at for not giving it one. If it did have a derp gun, people would complain that they put a big derp gun on a premium tank. There's very little middle ground there, it's a challenging balancing problem
No, the other aspects more than make up for it. It has heavy tank armor with gun depression, great penetration accuracy and decent mobility. I actually enjoyed playing the t44 with the 390 alpha gun so I’m really looking forward to seeing what this tank can do
My first 2 tier 10s in the game were the Chinese ones, it's great as after playing 1000s of games in them everything else I played from other nations after felt like easy mode 😅
WG is full of bias, gold type 59, silver WZ111, now come up with this shit......WTF are they think? May be they should make a Vodka camo for Obj 140. LOL
I actually like the high alpha in return for low dpm, because I don't usually find myself in drawn out, stationary fights. I'm either trading shot for shot, or taking occasional shots at targets when I see them come up.
regarding the design, this is one of the prototypes for the WZ-122 project. the tubes on the turret are for wire-guided missiles. yes, this thing was designed to fire ATGMs
I feel like this will be a pain to play against with that alpha, pen, and armor.. Also it will be situationally a pain to play but in most games it'll be fun handing out those big alpha sledge blows.
I think this tank is just a heavy support. Im no unicum (or even ranked) but my instincts tell me their intent was a medium that can move into a heavy lane (especially if it has ridges) and aid its team's heavies
To see just how “good” this tank is, see Claus Kellerman’s review. He shows off its mobility and gun accuracy to best effect and how regular players will find game play.
After getting this tank in the boxes this christmas event, the statistics are abysmal but in practice it is a very fun and amazing tank. This and the Skoda T56 are my favorite tier 8 tanks right now.
Finished the marathon in 7 days. Could have done it in 6 if I really tried. Averaged about 8-10 hours play everyday which is not viable for people with full time job ofc. Pretty tired after the marathon, but I really like the tank so far.
I like the balancing on this tank. The idea I have of it is that is allows the tank to perform equally well against every tier. So instead of having 2000 dpm where you shred tier 6s, but then not being able to pen tier 10s, instead you just get to plunk away at your enemies with low dpm at every tier
DPM is kind of a misleading stat though right? It's a theoretical maximum if you're able to shoot as soon as your reloaded and that your shot will pen? Would you rather pen 13/13 shots in a game with 400 alpha or pen 13/17 shots in a game, with 390 alpha? These aren't the actual number but you get the idea.
Considering the launchers are linked to be pointed the same way as the gun, in essence aimed at the same time, and their size compared to other smoke launchers in-game on the tanks, those are probably rocket tubes, not smoke launchers. Think Zuni Rockets from BF4, probably.
I'm late for the review, however when I play this tank I use it for brawling purposes against (Heavy tanks) not medium tanks. My equip setup is (Bounty Turbo for the Engine power, Bond vents, and bounty gun rammer) It does me very well matches and with a skilled crew maybe it could get 435 to 440 meters view range. Still at 2 skilled crew.
Ok just hear me out on this... this tank as the tier 8 heavy in a new branch. The 113 brought down and rebalanced as the tier 9, and then a chinese brawler tank like a 60tp or vk72 at tier 10. Could have bad depression, and weakspots but maybe the 560 alpha version of the 5A gun.
This tank is in my top three favorite tier 8 premiums. It's made me a better player by forcing me to think about positions and shots much more carefully. That gun is ridiculous. And in a tier six game, you can pretty much be a heavy tank. 9/10 for me Edit:. It's also one of the coolest looking tanks. Except for that really garish skin, that is just tacky haha
My fav premium is 122 TM. I love the gun DPM is awful but I love 400 alpha with 233mm of APCR pen with great velocity and 299mm of HEAT pen with decent gun handling,8° of gun depresion,awsome turret armour,troll hull armour it's very solid tank. I thought this tank is terrible because of DPM and lot of peoples still hate this tank because it has worst in class DPM. But when other stats are awsome DPM doesn't matter. It's kinda like a T20 at tier VIII
I wish that Wargaming would take the armor model that this tank has (strong turret, but with weak points you can at least hit) and apply it to the over powered heavily armored tanks in the game
Grinded out the CS LIS, not gonna bother with this one... might pick it up on the last day with whatever discount I accumulated from my usual play time.
The thing with balancing a tank with its DPM is that DPM often times doesnt matter unless you're fighting on an open, plane field. If you're on a city-map for example or just fight an enemy using covor, where the engagement is really stationary, like it often is these days, the DPM isnt that important. Because if you're in a position where you cant get rushed by the enemy, it doesnt matter if they can fire 2 or 4 times in the time that you are reloading cause you're not leaving cover before your've finished reloading anyway. So in that situation its always a 1 to 1 trade of shots thats always won by high alphadamage, good pen and armor. And this new tank has all of this. So its gonna be strong most of the time. Imagine a dream-scenario where you're inside this tank and you're playing in a platoon with an autoloader that has a high clip-potential. You're sitting there trying to hold enemys back with your armor and damage and if someone tries to rush you they get taken out the game by your friend. So all in all its gonna be a strong one imo.
Mr. QuickyBaby i love your vids. I know u like Sabton. I have recently found them and quite enjoy their music vids. As a colonial from the NA server thanks for your vids in most aspects i have somewhat improved. Keep up the great work
QB has spent the last 2-3 weeks complaining about the awful dpm of the Italian heavies, so it’s really weird to see him in an apologist role for this tank. “The dpm is so bad that the enemies forget about you!” O.k., that’s just weird praise.
The launchers I think are ATGM tubes, but WG covered em up to not give people false ideas. I guess WG was inspired by the WZ-122 prototype from the 60s, that had ATGMs mounted on the turret
@@ridge9066 enjoy the BR compression and stupid BR changes. After the new BR changes a T20 will be able to face an IS-3. The T20 in war thunder doesn't have a 90mm like in WoT, only the 76mm. It also doesn't get APCR. The T26E4 will face Leopards now which have 400mm of HEATFS pen for those WoT players who don't know. Enjoy the stupid balancing tactic of increasing repair costs on tanks that are overperforming(which btw does nothing but lock ftp players out of said tank), then later increasing the BR but keeping the same stupidly high repair costs. The british 6.7 tanks that went up to 7.0 and will now be 7.3 for example. Hope you like Gaijin bending the knee to the "gErManY SufFeRs" crowd. They're making the German M48, which is better than all the other M48s, 6.7, while all the other M48s are 7.3. Almost forgot, enjoy the bugs that Gaijin takes years to fix, like the hole in the Centurion Mk 10's gun mantlet. In short, you're running from a bad game to a BAD game. Take it from me. I'm still playing both for whatever reason
I think the key part is the Armor of this tank. Sure it's DPM is trash, but like you said, it's going to be Mid-long range, on a ridgeline, with a god tier turret... It's going to become a force to be reckoned with. And lower tiers, as well as same tier, will need to load the gold in order to deal with it. And even then, not all of them will be able to hurt it.
I like this tank allot. Kinda op I'd say. Yes the rof is bad but armour wise it's very tough compared to most other tier 8 mediums i have. Play it to it's strengths and it's a tank that rarely fails the player.
I guess the counter is to prioritize the autoloaders, retreat when needed, hold your fire as a "shell in being", and fight with team mates nearby -- don't try to lone ranger it in this tank.
I feel like this tank is pretty balanced. It is mobile but not super fast, has really good armor but with wakspots, awesome alpha and pen at cost of abysmal dpm and so on. WG did a good job. It is a shame that there are some tanks with no weaknesses.
I know this is 2 Y/O but my math isn't adding up unless I'm missing a stat of yours. Follow my Math(Credits earned in battle): Received: +79,274 Repair: -5198 Ammo:-16,515 Total should be: +57,561 Your total=+97,198. What am I missing sir! Thanks for your videos. Your the best in the Biz!
Hey QB I had a question I'm new and starting out and I was wondering if you think it is possible to get a tier 10 without a premium account? Also could you make a video about how to make the quickest money and how to not lose your money so fast on consumables and shells? Thanks!
Play with fire extinguisher, not food. Play with high standard penetration tanks. I recommend the obj 277 line or a TD line. You can also play light tanks, focus on spotting and staying alive until the end of the battle, when you can flank and penetration is not that important. You can go watch taugrim on youtube, he's super good, and plays only with standard ammo.
I’ve been thinking about this for a while, but if the game is being played too fast and they want to slow it down, why not lower the dpm globally? What I mean by that is to take all the dpms in the game and lower them by some degree in order to slow down the game. A good example would be lowering the average dpm at tier 8 to 1.8k and the average dpm at tier 10 to 2.2k (these numbers are without gunramers, vents and the like). I got this idea from being a Rainbow Six Siege player and when Ubisoft realized that the game was being played far too crackhead like (brainlessness was being rewarded more than planning and methodical action) they did a global ADS (aim down sight) speed slow down for all gun types. This not only gave angled grips (an attachment that sped up ADS speed at the cost of recoil) a purpose, but slowed down the game a lot more. Dpm like this wouldn’t be a problem if the greatest dpm possible at each tier was lowered more.
I imagine low DPM high alpha tanks are going to be introduced with more frequency as a way to slow the pace of the game down a bit, by forcing the high DPM tanks to choose between saving their HP or possibly getting knocked out in 2 to 3 hits.
That's gonna super challenging because good players will work around that. Example: sure I can get slapped for 400 alpha, but if I can then put two or three shots into you for one of your shots, I can kill you faster. Result is the game actually gets faster because you have tanks that can kill their way through something vs a tank that can't. It's like Obj. 140 meets Jg pz E 100 syndrome, if you know what I mean
@@Aquifilia That is a very possible outcome! I won't deny that! In fact it's very probable, given the skill gap between average players (like me) and good players. I know for a fact if I'm gonna get slapped for a quarter, a third ,or even half my hit points then I'm gonna hesitate and wait for an opening. I know that's not always the best response, but it's what I do in that situation. So if Wargaming can create that situation for more people more often, if they can create hesitation, the game should slow down a bit.
I think that dpm might just ruin it for me, I hate tanks with dpm that low... except the elc... thats a exception. Then again I love the rino... so maybe ill love this thing. also if a chimera can have 440 alpha and a 12 second reload how come this things reload is literally 1.5 seconds worse???
This is basically a tier 9 tank with a broken engine and ammorack.
True xD
Now imagine having broken engine and ammo-rack in this tank
@@mehmetozturk771 double the ammorack, double the damaged engine, double the "fun"
And nerfed HP, All tier8 tanks are basically that
@@mehmetozturk771 It woule be a tier 7
Alternative title:
QB having an existencial crisis 'cause he doesnt like tea
Brit and doesn't like tea? that's unacceptable lol
Hahaha I was just sitting here thinking...well I came to find out about this new medium, but instead I'm reminded how much QB don't like tea lmfao
But tea is amazing D:
Im bri ish and i hate tea. I like coffe 😂
@@AndrewMitchell123 I just heard the lemon guy from adventure time screaming when I read your comment. You gave me ptsd
QB: Complains about tank only having 470 view range with premium consumables, calls it barley acceptable.
Me: You can get tier 8 mediums to that much view range?!?
470 is good but for us mortals it will be more like 430/440 which is less impressive
Y-yes. It's just usually players are satisfied with at least 445 so usually you won't use optics on a med unless it's an autoloader
Meanwhile i got 490m on my t100lt
@@meddlloide9188 do you not run optics?
@@Aquifilia yeah improved optics
Low DPM on paper, high effective DPM once you factor bounces and misses.
And quite often if you’re sitting in a bush and fire, get spotted, pull back, and wait 10 sec to get unspotted, it doesn’t matter what you’re rate of fire is. A Leo 1 for example would have to wait 10 seconds to fire again whereas this tank still only waits 12 seconds
@@absolutespoon2074 And sometimes you stay lit after sixth sense goes off so it doesn't hurt waiting 2 seconds extra
@@richardzheng231 yeah exactly
they should make it .23 dispersion if they plan to make a horrible DPM
@@absolutespoon2074 Leo 1 load 6.7 sek
11:41 Those are actually ATGM launchers. Fortunately, just like the T49 and Sheridan's real-life ability to launch an ATGM out of their 152mm guns, that capability isn't included in World of Tanks. The launchers are purely cosmetic.
Also, watch out for a "122 TH" in the future as a Tier 10 reward tank. Would basically be the same as this except with better DPM, better acceleration and handling, and siege mode like the STB-1 and Swedish mediums. Because the original 122 prototype in real life had hydraulic transmission, hydropneumatic suspension, and hydraulic steering (thus being nicknamed "Triple Hydro"). Chinese industry wasn't capable of mass producing such technology at the time (it was doable on a hand-made prototype; the 122-1 actually existed), so they made a second downgraded prototype with conventional transmission, suspension, and steering. This was the 122-2, that was nicknamed "Triple Mechanical". I'm presuming that's why this premium has "TM" in its name. In reality, the second prototype didn't have the missile launchers, so cosmetically this premium is based on the original prototype. But stat-wise it's the downgraded second prototype.
(Hopefully if Wargaming does that, it'll be as the next set of campaigns, or even a bonds shop tank. Or perhaps even the top of a new branch of the Chinese medium tech tree. It's a cool tank that I wouldn't mind seeing in the game, but I would want it to be accessible to more than just the elite players.)
Wow. Very interesting history lesson.
It's in wotc now with atgms
I guess nerfing one stat into the ground is one way to try to balance a tank.
its pretty unique and doesnt get fixed by just spamming gold which is pretty cool imo
@@leno7492 I mean yeah, it's better than releasing an absurdly overpowered tank. Forces the player to work within limitations.
The best I can get this reload time down to is about 13 seconds with brothers in arm crew, improved bounty rammer, vents, food, and rammer directive. This gets the DPM up to a whopping 1,800 give or take.
which is about 1,200 less than other mediums of its tier.
thats reload that i can work around with
With bond rammer and vents + bia you can reach 1830 DPM which is equal to M4A1 Rev. without any equipment or bia. And Rev. isn't known for it's great DPM
Which means anyone else who's kitted out is going to be much much better, and guaranteed to be so. It's not a knife fighter
In my country, This camo 3D look like funeral caravan.
LOL
And I can confirm it’s true.. especially with the iron-ish color and candles on top.. which usually placed on the coffin..
It looks like a Chinese brothel everywhere else.
So true
you know what's funny? This is just a tier 8 rhinoceronte without the burst damage.
The Rhinoceronte has worse armor than this one though
Yeah the rhino's turret armor can be pen'd by standard ammo of TDs...pretty bad
Not really.
It has some armor. Most relaible t8 gun. Reminds me of Lowe. Slow DPM but it delivers consistently also faster than lowe and more alpha damage.
@@azizella2778 have you seen the size of the cupolas on the 122TM? the hull armour isn't incredible either. similar case for both.
@@multicrogamer wow, you just described the rhino. some armour, horrible dpm, reliable gun IF you let it aim in like a grille 15.
Despite the reload, I love how this tank looks! A chinese medium tank with good accuracy, aimtime and gun depression combined with amazing turret armor will make this tank a hulldown monster in my opinion. This will for sure make a great birthday present for myself, and thank you for the review QB!
I balance my college life and wot by doing my homework during reload and game ques. This tank is really gonna help me
Imagine beeing a Tier 8 medium tank and getting 20mm more frontal turret armour than a Tier 10 superheavy Maus
Yeah but the maus is angled
@@BlackoutGootraxian yeah but funny story, its way harder to pen 122tm turret frontally even with tier 10 gold than it is to pen maus turret, most of the time at least
@@JWil97 Sadly yes. I really hate this hulldown meta... if i see any kranvagn or emil i just dont peek
Woah a double upload. It’s always a good day when this happens.
It's not smoke launcher, it's ATGM launcher, WG just wanted to hide it lol.
Yep...also we want this tank in WarThunder and with rockets ofcourse:):)
In real life, the 122-6(the tank wot based on) has ATGM&prototype 120mm smoothbore& hydraulic suspension
Sounds cool, sadly would be a premium i believe like the amx 13 ss.11
Sometimes having lower dpm isn't such a bad thing . When you have a high dpm low alpha tank every second after realoading you don't fire you are losing dpm that makes you takes high risk shots which ends up killing you more quickly thus you don't do good damage either way. With a solid tank like this you get to have relaxed gameplay . You don't have constantly be hypervigilant about hitting enemy thus allowing you to make cool headed desicions that often results in you winning more.
QB: I don't really like hot drinks.
The Queen: *sends voice message* I have revoked your British card. Go on, to Australia off you go, no dawdling.
wait... you're telling me the reload time of the 122 TM is the same as the T95 with the max gun that deals 750 dmg?
That's a tier 9 though
Gotta love it
Yes that is quite what I’m telling you
damn, i didn't know a tank would come out that would make the guard's dpm look good
Getting an ace tanker when the tanks not released
basically an inside joke at this point.
1300 base exp? That's pretty good regardless man, prob good enough for a ace live or very close
Your profile picture is terrifying ._.
@@DefinitelyNotEmma No it's wondeful in it's own way
@@DreamerXX wait a week or so, its gonna be 1,7k base exp
I don't really focus much on dpm. Vk 75.01 k, amx cda 105, kannonenjagdpanzer are my fav tanks and they do have abysmal dpm. It really isn't that often that one can use dpm fully (mostly when someone rushes). And even if one would be to use dpm to dictate which one would win that wouldn't be so obvious. For example Maus has bad dpm but reliable armor and a ton of health. Let's say a obj140 is going 1v1 with full gold both of them so that all shots will penetrate. Maus has far more hp and would stand victorious in this duel. Therefore I suggest to look at tanks considering health times dpm. That would be the Combat Effectiveness (CE) where CE=DPM*HP/1000 (divided so we don't end up with millions).
Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Not gonna lie, really had to fight off the urge to alt+f4 when I saw that dpm lol
Just a few hours in from the Marathon video, and we already have a tank review, nice.
Why do I suspect like halfway through the year WG will buff the DPM then make it available again in christmas lootboxes.
Wargaming is scared to release a t8 premium heavy tank for the Japanese.
y? because they know nobody would purchase it?
@@robinkhn2547
Wrong.
How tf does a game full of fictional and paper tanks still do not have Chi-Se or Ho-Ri variants is beyond me.
Even WT has two Ho-Ri is so funny.
@@robinkhn2547 More like because the expectation would be to have a derp gun, and if it wasn't primarily derp they would get yelled at for not giving it one. If it did have a derp gun, people would complain that they put a big derp gun on a premium tank. There's very little middle ground there, it's a challenging balancing problem
@@edwardcardona717 considering the HE rework it be the perfect time
sorry but that dpm negates pretty much everything else about that tank. I'd understand that rof it it was 490 alpha
No, the other aspects more than make up for it. It has heavy tank armor with gun depression, great penetration accuracy and decent mobility. I actually enjoyed playing the t44 with the 390 alpha gun so I’m really looking forward to seeing what this tank can do
It’s weird cause the T-34-3 has quite a few of those things besides the gun depression and armor and the DPM is way higher for 10 less dmg
@@chinaoof not really. The penetration and accuracy are way worse than the 122. The aim time is also worse.
Lol this thing had 135mm of hull armor during super test. It was nuts
Even with the 17.5 second base reload, this would be an overpowered monster if it had 490 alpha.
So conflicted about trying to grind for this guy. Looks like it could be really fun in some ways, but we'll see.
I think it’s a good tank but I don’t actively try to do these challenges anymore. Not worth the time or money
Personally, I'll wait for the Xmas lootboxes when I top up my gold. If I happen to get one, it looks good for some lols.
Yeah same. I know if I wanted I could complete this marathon. I'm also struggling with whether or not I want to do it though
looks like those cupolas are gonna get ripped up, my only turn off.
@@blackkilo2417 lol that reminds me how tier 6 tanks have better dpm than this thing
if u are considering getting this tank then u have chinese mediums, you are already dissapointed so its perfect for people like us :)
No I have the centurion AX so I guess im still used to an uncompetitive tank
I love my t-34-3, I will be trying my best to get this tank but i doubt I will have the time to get it sadly
@@stuy5283 Use your wallet buddy
@@jacobliu9595 I just found out that you can do that, I am now stress free!
My first 2 tier 10s in the game were the Chinese ones, it's great as after playing 1000s of games in them everything else I played from other nations after felt like easy mode 😅
The "smoke grenade launchers" are a bit large for being smoke launchers. Personally I think they are Rocket pods , a bit like a T34 Sherman Calliope
I suspect it's a Type 63 rocket launcher. They had variants of them mounted on the Type 69 and 80 tanks on the side much like this.
They are ATGM's like the amx 13 HOT and amx 13 SS.11
3:57 The gun is actually 120 mm, though the name is 122
Yeah quite fun
122 is a code. 1= Army 2= Medium tank 2= No. 2 scheme.
@@しょう-x3g oh Tanks good to know :)
I’m gonna have a lot of fun not penning this
As a Chinese the pronunciation makes me laugh when QB tried to pronounce it.
玩美服吗兄弟
Same as your name...off...:)
@@kevinzhang6472 不是那么多，我住在新西兰，再美服有150-300ms
@@kevinzhang6472 我的主要账号是亚服。
WG is full of bias, gold type 59, silver WZ111, now come up with this shit......WTF are they think? May be they should make a Vodka camo for Obj 140. LOL
I actually like the high alpha in return for low dpm, because I don't usually find myself in drawn out, stationary fights. I'm either trading shot for shot, or taking occasional shots at targets when I see them come up.
regarding the design, this is one of the prototypes for the WZ-122 project. the tubes on the turret are for wire-guided missiles. yes, this thing was designed to fire ATGMs
Yas, finally a smart person :3
I think this is the most balanced tank in the game, maybe if they increased dpm by 100 or pen at 245 it would be perfect
I hope we see more tanks like this. Low dpm tanks that benefit from good positioning. Maybe after enough time the game will slow down a bit
I feel like this will be a pain to play against with that alpha, pen, and armor.. Also it will be situationally a pain to play but in most games it'll be fun handing out those big alpha sledge blows.
I think this tank is just a heavy support. Im no unicum (or even ranked) but my instincts tell me their intent was a medium that can move into a heavy lane (especially if it has ridges) and aid its team's heavies
To see just how “good” this tank is, see Claus Kellerman’s review. He shows off its mobility and gun accuracy to best effect and how regular players will find game play.
can you please make a up to date video for new players about what's the best tank to start and what not?
I love the addition of low dpm tanks, same with the Italian heavies. Coz maybe it brings the avg. match time up a bit...
After getting this tank in the boxes this christmas event, the statistics are abysmal but in practice it is a very fun and amazing tank. This and the Skoda T56 are my favorite tier 8 tanks right now.
Finished the marathon in 7 days. Could have done it in 6 if I really tried. Averaged about 8-10 hours play everyday which is not viable for people with full time job ofc. Pretty tired after the marathon, but I really like the tank so far.
Those are anti-tank guided missiles attached to the sides of the turret, yes.
The 122 TM can also be classified as Object 122 TM
That are not smokelaunchers, that are anti tank missiles, at least that is what the ingame description tells
Yeah cause wg cant balance arty better not put un alternative weapon systems on tanks
Well done QB!! Enjoyed the video. Very informative. Thanks
This looks like the perfect tank for me. I'm ok with the low reload speed when I can use that time to reposition.
I like the balancing on this tank. The idea I have of it is that is allows the tank to perform equally well against every tier. So instead of having 2000 dpm where you shred tier 6s, but then not being able to pen tier 10s, instead you just get to plunk away at your enemies with low dpm at every tier
Dame those are some thicc smoke grenades
But for real they are most likely 150mm missile lunchers for something like TOW or HOT missiles
The launchers on the side of the turret (according to the description) are ATGMs (or at least ATMs, I don’t know if they’re guided)
Remember when the hardest hitting mt in tier 8 was the lansen c?
revolarise should have the same pen as this IMO
I believe these are SAM launchers or for ATMs. Similar design can be found on North Korean T62s.
3:04 to be fair, I didn't expect anything less given it's literally a T-62A with an IS-3's gun shoehorned into the turret.
I got a Guard from bonds (I am free to play) and it is super fun. The alpha feels sooo good
Jokes on QB I wasn't in full screen when he said Alt+F4
DPM is kind of a misleading stat though right? It's a theoretical maximum if you're able to shoot as soon as your reloaded and that your shot will pen? Would you rather pen 13/13 shots in a game with 400 alpha or pen 13/17 shots in a game, with 390 alpha? These aren't the actual number but you get the idea.
Considering the launchers are linked to be pointed the same way as the gun, in essence aimed at the same time, and their size compared to other smoke launchers in-game on the tanks, those are probably rocket tubes, not smoke launchers. Think Zuni Rockets from BF4, probably.
I think WG really want to solve the turbo-match problem with those new tanks with super bad DPM like GSOR, Italian HTs and this
Just got the tank, after completing lvl 7 of the challenge. Gotta say I love it, and was worth it at
least with the 70% discount!
I use it like a heavy. I go to the front line, hide my lower plate and side scrape. I’ve had teir 10 bounce off me constantly.
I'm late for the review, however when I play this tank I use it for brawling purposes against (Heavy tanks) not medium tanks. My equip setup is (Bounty Turbo for the Engine power, Bond vents, and bounty gun rammer) It does me very well matches and with a skilled crew maybe it could get 435 to 440 meters view range. Still at 2 skilled crew.
Ok just hear me out on this... this tank as the tier 8 heavy in a new branch. The 113 brought down and rebalanced as the tier 9, and then a chinese brawler tank like a 60tp or vk72 at tier 10. Could have bad depression, and weakspots but maybe the 560 alpha version of the 5A gun.
2 vids in one day? This man workin!
This tank is in my top three favorite tier 8 premiums. It's made me a better player by forcing me to think about positions and shots much more carefully. That gun is ridiculous. And in a tier six game, you can pretty much be a heavy tank. 9/10 for me
Edit:. It's also one of the coolest looking tanks. Except for that really garish skin, that is just tacky haha
My fav premium is 122 TM. I love the gun DPM is awful but I love 400 alpha with 233mm of APCR pen with great velocity and 299mm of HEAT pen with decent gun handling,8° of gun depresion,awsome turret armour,troll hull armour it's very solid tank. I thought this tank is terrible because of DPM and lot of peoples still hate this tank because it has worst in class DPM. But when other stats are awsome DPM doesn't matter. It's kinda like a T20 at tier VIII
I wish that Wargaming would take the armor model that this tank has (strong turret, but with weak points you can at least hit) and apply it to the over powered heavily armored tanks in the game
Exactly
Grinded out the CS LIS, not gonna bother with this one... might pick it up on the last day with whatever discount I accumulated from my usual play time.
The thing with balancing a tank with its DPM is that DPM often times doesnt matter unless you're fighting on an open, plane field. If you're on a city-map for example or just fight an enemy using covor, where the engagement is really stationary, like it often is these days, the DPM isnt that important. Because if you're in a position where you cant get rushed by the enemy, it doesnt matter if they can fire 2 or 4 times in the time that you are reloading cause you're not leaving cover before your've finished reloading anyway. So in that situation its always a 1 to 1 trade of shots thats always won by high alphadamage, good pen and armor. And this new tank has all of this. So its gonna be strong most of the time. Imagine a dream-scenario where you're inside this tank and you're playing in a platoon with an autoloader that has a high clip-potential. You're sitting there trying to hold enemys back with your armor and damage and if someone tries to rush you they get taken out the game by your friend.
So all in all its gonna be a strong one imo.
You forgot the true T8 Chinese Premium Medium, the Type 59. That tank does have pref. MM and is a really good T8 Premium Medium Tank.
Any tank that has a side skirt is a + from me. Just give side skirts to the crusader wg
0:03 lol, the face on the barrel
As an OI player, I have had so many times on a long reload when the enemy forget that I'm there and focus on something else.
Quickybaby is going a little crazy in Quarantine but I love it
i feel like i do ok with vents, bounty rammer and turbo. just have to find some cover between shots and dont go alone. good support med/heavy
Mr. QuickyBaby i love your vids. I know u like Sabton. I have recently found them and quite enjoy their music vids. As a colonial from the NA server thanks for your vids in most aspects i have somewhat improved. Keep up the great work
Style is fire in terms of CG art. Not nice to look at for long periods.
And long periods are nasty things if painful ...
Sorry to break your bubble qb, but the VK 168s Cupola got 160mm so even tier 6 can easily pen it with standard ammo
QB has spent the last 2-3 weeks complaining about the awful dpm of the Italian heavies, so it’s really weird to see him in an apologist role for this tank. “The dpm is so bad that the enemies forget about you!” O.k., that’s just weird praise.
How about dropping Vert Stabs and use Turbo instead? It reload is slow anyway so you should have enough time to aim ;) I'd try that setup for sure
The launchers I think are ATGM tubes, but WG covered em up to not give people false ideas. I guess WG was inspired by the WZ-122 prototype from the 60s, that had ATGMs mounted on the turret
Hey QB do you recommend the tank as the first premiumtank ,becouse i want to give My friend a tank?
Another tier 8 premium. I literally couldn't care less.
:/
I went to the dark side. World of Tanks is mostly fantasy tanks now. I’ve gone to War Thunder.
@@ridge9066 Probably for the best.
@@ridge9066 War Thunder grind is even worse for F2P.
Wargaming sucks but Gaijin is a whole nother level of petty.
@@ridge9066 enjoy the BR compression and stupid BR changes. After the new BR changes a T20 will be able to face an IS-3. The T20 in war thunder doesn't have a 90mm like in WoT, only the 76mm. It also doesn't get APCR. The T26E4 will face Leopards now which have 400mm of HEATFS pen for those WoT players who don't know. Enjoy the stupid balancing tactic of increasing repair costs on tanks that are overperforming(which btw does nothing but lock ftp players out of said tank), then later increasing the BR but keeping the same stupidly high repair costs. The british 6.7 tanks that went up to 7.0 and will now be 7.3 for example. Hope you like Gaijin bending the knee to the "gErManY SufFeRs" crowd. They're making the German M48, which is better than all the other M48s, 6.7, while all the other M48s are 7.3. Almost forgot, enjoy the bugs that Gaijin takes years to fix, like the hole in the Centurion Mk 10's gun mantlet.
In short, you're running from a bad game to a BAD game. Take it from me. I'm still playing both for whatever reason
I think the key part is the Armor of this tank. Sure it's DPM is trash, but like you said, it's going to be Mid-long range, on a ridgeline, with a god tier turret... It's going to become a force to be reckoned with. And lower tiers, as well as same tier, will need to load the gold in order to deal with it. And even then, not all of them will be able to hurt it.
U uploaded this on 2 o’clock? Respect to you my good sir.
I like this tank allot. Kinda op I'd say. Yes the rof is bad but armour wise it's very tough compared to most other tier 8 mediums i have. Play it to it's strengths and it's a tank that rarely fails the player.
Start tomorrow as in tomorrow of this being posted or recorded?
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Autoloaders are going to have a blast when they meet this tank, so you shot me, time to unload my full magazine :)
I guess the counter is to prioritize the autoloaders, retreat when needed, hold your fire as a "shell in being", and fight with team mates nearby -- don't try to lone ranger it in this tank.
@@gangfire5932 well yeah, but how many times does that happen? A lot of people rush and then complain in chat
Lmao every autoloader does that already to every other single shot tank
@@gangfire5932 sound logic, but unfortunately these days it’s not unusual for half the team to be autoloaders.
Progetto 46 comes, hits once for 240, reloads hits again, then unloads
960 damage 😂
When the dpm is so bad, you have to ram your target.
This DPM ??? Hard pass.
I feel like this tank is pretty balanced. It is mobile but not super fast, has really good armor but with wakspots, awesome alpha and pen at cost of abysmal dpm and so on. WG did a good job. It is a shame that there are some tanks with no weaknesses.
Even though the dpm is absolute garbage, I'm REALLY exited to play this tank.
what do you think is the best heavy tank line to go down?
QB do you think double stacking vert stabs and rotation is a good idea on this tank?
There's a little gun on the idea that follows the barrels angle on the side
I know this is 2 Y/O but my math isn't adding up unless I'm missing a stat of yours.
Follow my Math(Credits earned in battle):
Received: +79,274
Repair: -5198
Ammo:-16,515
Total should be: +57,561
Your total=+97,198. What am I missing sir!
Thanks for your videos. Your the best in the Biz!
Hey QB I had a question I'm new and starting out and I was wondering if you think it is possible to get a tier 10 without a premium account? Also could you make a video about how to make the quickest money and how to not lose your money so fast on consumables and shells? Thanks!
Play with fire extinguisher, not food. Play with high standard penetration tanks. I recommend the obj 277 line or a TD line. You can also play light tanks, focus on spotting and staying alive until the end of the battle, when you can flank and penetration is not that important. You can go watch taugrim on youtube, he's super good, and plays only with standard ammo.
I’ve been thinking about this for a while, but if the game is being played too fast and they want to slow it down, why not lower the dpm globally? What I mean by that is to take all the dpms in the game and lower them by some degree in order to slow down the game. A good example would be lowering the average dpm at tier 8 to 1.8k and the average dpm at tier 10 to 2.2k (these numbers are without gunramers, vents and the like). I got this idea from being a Rainbow Six Siege player and when Ubisoft realized that the game was being played far too crackhead like (brainlessness was being rewarded more than planning and methodical action) they did a global ADS (aim down sight) speed slow down for all gun types. This not only gave angled grips (an attachment that sped up ADS speed at the cost of recoil) a purpose, but slowed down the game a lot more. Dpm like this wouldn’t be a problem if the greatest dpm possible at each tier was lowered more.
Man that DPM is literally what happens to most tanks when they are ported to the Console version from PC.
Us console players just keep getting fucked in the ass
Those tubes on the side and attached to the mantle should represent anti tank missle tubes.
I imagine low DPM high alpha tanks are going to be introduced with more frequency as a way to slow the pace of the game down a bit, by forcing the high DPM tanks to choose between saving their HP or possibly getting knocked out in 2 to 3 hits.
That's gonna super challenging because good players will work around that. Example: sure I can get slapped for 400 alpha, but if I can then put two or three shots into you for one of your shots, I can kill you faster. Result is the game actually gets faster because you have tanks that can kill their way through something vs a tank that can't. It's like Obj. 140 meets Jg pz E 100 syndrome, if you know what I mean
@@Aquifilia That is a very possible outcome! I won't deny that!
In fact it's very probable, given the skill gap between average players (like me) and good players. I know for a fact if I'm gonna get slapped for a quarter, a third ,or even half my hit points then I'm gonna hesitate and wait for an opening. I know that's not always the best response, but it's what I do in that situation. So if Wargaming can create that situation for more people more often, if they can create hesitation, the game should slow down a bit.
I think that dpm might just ruin it for me, I hate tanks with dpm that low... except the elc... thats a exception. Then again I love the rino... so maybe ill love this thing. also if a chimera can have 440 alpha and a 12 second reload how come this things reload is literally 1.5 seconds worse???