Simon Jordan EXPLAINS Why Manchester United's Share Prices Dipping is IRRELEVANT to the Glazers 😳
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- With Manchester United's share prices dipping, Simon Jordan explains why this is irrelevant to their owners, the Glazer family.
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Simon is a 100% realist. Only us fans believe the myths and stories around our clubs. It is a business and Simon is not wrong!
Speak for yourself. Ony YOU believed it.
@@funny573ff what do we only believe?
Jim is such a melt. Always playing the 'I'm one of you, the people' card
There all melts
@@Darth-Boner*they’re
Jim knows all the facts. He’s just playing devils advocate to start a conversation
@@chrisconnor1312 I really don't think he does. He should simply defer to Simon on any financial matters.
Simon spitting facts
Sir Orillion = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
A mortgage is nothing like 75% debt. Thick as pig muck.
Apart from he’s lying about a 6BN bid for United. He’s right with the share price not mattering though.
@@stretfordender11share price does matter😂
It must be PAINFUL for Simon to have to explain this stuff to people with no clue. Manchester United are not an item in a shop with a fixed price. It’s a bit like buying a house. There’ll be a market guide but the value is decided by the buyer and seller
Jim and Danny do have a clue though, its why Danny Murphy doesnt speak, he gets what they're doing.
Jim knows, but he is playing his role, his 'man of the people' role, its quite irritating the way Jim plays dumb but its so they can rehash this subject again and again, its been explained by Simon so many times now but its like he keeps saying, some Utd fans dont listen and keep on with the 'Glazers OUT NOW' screaming when its just not going to play out like that.
And share price is a vital indicator of value 😂
It's nothing like buying a house ffs! So many different variables. Wow. Trying to be clever are we?
@@tyroneraman6395 Paradigmatically, it’s quite similar actually. The breadth & scope differ along which comes more variables to be valued, but at the end of the day, all those variable added up equate to a particular number from the seller’s position and the potential buyer’s. If they meet, sale is done if not, they either walk away or continued to go back and forth until an agreement is reached.
@samwize28Imagine letting go of all the board. You'd have total chaos and you can't do that either way. There would be legal action
Ed Woodward was replaced and this shows again that there is no guarantee that the next replacement will be much different because it simply doesn't work that way
The glazers didn't hire those people btw. That's left to adminstration, shareholders and other interests
As a trader I can tell you Simon knows his stuff and given a small bit of knowledge, bringing up their stock price in this situation is very silly.
100%...
Facts. The way the stock is moving is just on short term speculation
AHHHH RIGHT ,,, THIS VIDEO STILL WONT CONVINCE HIM THE GLAZERS ARE BELLENDS . SHARE PRICE IS INDICATIVE THOUGH sry for all caps I know
That's true only If they don't fall off.... If they fall off as a brand and in the football sense they will become a Liverpool or Everton. So yes for the moment.... All rosey..... But they are falling behind MASSIVELY. All it takes is a few more poor decisions and boom. Mid table club and that stock price becomes worse.
It’s irrelevant to those ppl who have bought stock in the hope to make a quick profit when The Glazers sell. It’s also irrelevant as the market now believes that the club is less likely to be sold that it was last week. What makes the stock price irrelevant though is the fact only a small portion of the club is floated on the NYSE.
Hate to agree with Simon, but yes right. If the glazers could get the management correct to run the club properly, no one would complain. They deserve blame, but if they don’t want to sell there’s nothing anyone can do.
Let Simon square a circle
People are tired of fans and pundits scapegoating the Glaziers every time Utd are not doing well.
In the past few years Utd have spent a lot of money (apart from Chelsea) and the self entitled club think success is their daily bread.
Did the Glazier suggest the buying of Evan ?
Did the Glazier encourage the manager to call out Sancho publicly??
Crazy
@samwize28 Don't give up on your team, just don't buy their products until the ownership changes. The Glazers and other shareholders rely upon international fanbase that buys shirts and buy rights to play games on TV and streaming. If you want them to sell join the protests and don't buy their products, that will devalue their investment (by lagging product sales and lower brand attractiveness) and cause a sale. Unfortunately Man U are a global brand so your individual protest won't matter but over time the market stagnation of the brand and ROI can make the stakeholders start to sell.
We did it at Arsenal, now Josh Kroenke had to move to a hands-on position in the co-chairman role and reform the club's structure to bring back the corporate box spenders and the long term season ticket holders. His changes meant that Arsenal now have a director of football (Edu) that invests in the playing staff and manager to provide success on the pitch which is driving brand deals and competition revenue higher than pre-2018. The addition of Champions League returns and subsiquent deals mean that high expenditure in the short term can be offset and eventually negated by latterly produced net income.
has you seen the stadium? been to it in the last 10 years? if u had you would know why. that 1b taken out on intrested could of fixed the issue, training ground is outdated, the academy has no guidence anymore. i reacently worked with a guy who worked for my company part time and full time as united academy, was there for like 10 years, hes just left@@triunf1
and gone to man city , says there set up is amazing.
Jim is so good at winding Simon up 🤣🤣🤣
Absolutely facts by Simon. It’s hard to accept but the truth
Simon nailed it on the media narrative 😂
Love Simon on this show at times😂
Me too ❤
It’s fine for there to be a difference between the share value and what someone is willing to pay. If someone was offering 6+bn the shares still weren’t worth that much even before the dip. Its only worth how much someone is willing to pay at a given point in time. And there are a ton of ways to value a business!
Very few companies get sold for what their market cap position is worth, their will be a margin of goodwill which sits on the new owners balance sheet but Jim and Co dont understand that
@@terrymccan5891 indeed, goodwill was the key phrase missing
Correct but nothing stays the same. So just as much as its worth 6 billion today tomorrow it could be worth 1 billion. If they keep up these poor results and their asset keep dropping In value so will the clubs selling price
@@thedreamer3454in case that they loses some sponsors
@@thedreamer3454Incorrect
Love to hear Simon talking about business!! He's totally clear in his understanding of the financial aspects of football.
Not the only one who does though. He's just inflammatory when he's waxing lyricals
Right sit down class here is lesson by Simon Jordan 😆
It’s very simple. Before the Glazers there wasn’t any debt! Now there is around 1billion of debt. What is wrong with fans being angry about that?
Correct 🔰🔰🔰🔰🔰
Because the debt doesn't effect the fans or team for that matter.very simple
Yeah but why do you care. It's not like it stops the club from buying players. The only club to have spent more than united in the PL over the past five years is Chelsea. Debt is being lumped onto the club, but as far as you are concerned that doesn't stop you enjoying football.
@@samsmyth-nh4ko everything about our club effects us fans. Win lose or draw.
@@samsmyth-nh4koless to invest in the rotting stadium and training ground when you are paying massive interest payments on the loans. Having that level of debt is never good
Man Utd is nowhere near the biggest european club here in Brazil or Latin America. Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Kaka never considered playing for them. Real Madrid and Barcelona are way bigger.
Their are 6 continents in the world
North America ,Africa specially sub Saharan Africa, Asia specially china ,India,Japan,korea, indoneshia, Australia which league dominate ...
And man UTD play in which league......
That redbull Ferrari analogy is so on point
At No point in history have United been a bigger club than Real Madrid by any measure....Man United is not even bigger than Barcelona....There is a world outside the corridors of Britain....
Danny Murphy looks bored to death 😂
Doesn’t have a clue what’s going on.
If Man United fans were so upset stop spending on season ticket, a full kit for your child, programme. You doing all doesnt go into the club it goes in glazers pockets
Simon talking facts Danny hated it 😂😂
Maybe someone can explain this, but how would a World Cup in US increase the value of a club in England? I don't get it.
More/New eyes on the game. Maybe then US companies want to invest into United.
American eyes and media will be on the game. Stocks are fickle and will raise and fall based on anything but if there's attention on something, they will usually rise.
Bigger share of a bigger financial package via advertising and sponsorship.
Because they’re that disconnected from reality and thick they probably think United will play in it
@jamiiiedee3196 actually the revamped Club World Cup is in the US in 2025, so they might play in that.
Jim being hysterical again without any understanding of how business works
Is the business not listed on the stock exchange for everyday people to buy and sell? If it is, then a drastic shift in the stock price does effect everyday people buying and selling shares. Simon is addressing the impact on the Glazers and not taking into account the large number of normal people who own shares
It works on supply and demand though. Those other shareholders can just not sell their stock. You aren't forced to sell any stock even if you are a minority holder. The stock price dropped because that is what the market currently thinks its value is. As soon as the glazers consider selling, the market will think its going up. The price of the stock means nothing outside of an outsider estimate at what the club is worth at this moment of time
The only people that matter are the majority shareholders. Not Bob and Deidre with their 4.5 shares for retirement.
No, the class B shares that the Glazers hold are not available on the stock exchange. This is why Sheik Jassim is negotiating with the Glazers and not just buying the club via the stock exchange.
But they weren't sold for 6 Billion. Nobody was willing to bid that much. Simon saying 'they're not doing too badly are they, going for 6 billion' only if someone actually pays that. But not even the Saudi's who've been paying over the odds in multiple arenas for multiple ventures are even willing to match that.
To compare house mortgages to buying Manchester United with huge debt is ludicrous. If someone else was paying my mortgage whilst I watched my house appreciate in value then I could begin to see Simon’s point of view. Some times he just loves to flap his gums.
Never heard of buy to let?
Why would someone else need to pay it for you? The debt is on the club, not the Glazers.. The club generates cash and pays it’s debt, you go to work, you generate cash and you pay your debt.. The club isn’t paying off a debt the Glazers have, it’s paying off a debt it has..
In simple terms, if United is put up for sale right now the share price will shoot up again.
@@Primitive01 that’s exactly his point. United are paying off the debt for the Glazers, as opposed to you going to work to pay off your own debts i.e. a mortgage, which was Simon’s example.
@@philthornton1382 I suppose the difference is the tenant isn’t forced to be there paying the debt. United fans and the club as a whole have no choice.
One element simion is ignoring is they are banking on utd holding it's value. As we have seen businesses don't always do that. If Newcastle, Chelsea and spurs overtake them results and performance wise it's gonna be hard to maintain this icon status and value
Spurs?! LMAO
United has been rubbish on the field for over 10 years and their brand has grown exponentially in that period. If they start winning, it will be a problem for everyone. Their brand dwarves all other brands in football bar 1 or 2
What a load of tosh
@@user-dq6se6er8j as much as spurs sometimes is a joke their structure and infrastructure is sustainable. If sold they are easily highly attractive and have a foundation for success. Utd need so much done due to the neglect it's literally living off its brand. Stadium, training facilities, youth academy, assets and recovery management all need rebuilding. It's a massive job.
@@OfficialINZ agreed but what you are admitting is they are living off their brand. That will only last for so long. Attitudes and legacy gets forgotten QUICK. Especially in this era. Also their brand is in line with growth of the Premier league.
Thank goodness for Simon.
If Manchester united could be bought by ‘buying all the shares on the stock market’ then Qatar would have done it wouldn’t they for a few Billion less than they offered.
You cannot by the class A controlling shares the glazers own.
People should use their brains.
It is because the Glazers are the majority shareholders.
All Manchester United shares on the stock market ≠ all Manchester United shares
@@TehApolloElevenExcept 100 percent of United is not on the stock market. They floated a percentage of their shares, so no, you are completely wrong.
Other than drawing a picture in wax crayon, I don't know how much clearer Simon can make this for Jim!
Utd ARE NOT the most icon club at all anymore😂😂😂
Honestly🤦🏻♂️
Things don’t stay the same for ever simon!
Madrid, Barca, Liverpool, Man City, Bayern, Chelsea, United, Arsenal, AC Milan, Juventus, inter,
@@zelig1799 so from your time scale and reasoning utd are what? Zero
MU fan, Simon sometimes gets under my skin but he's spitting facts here.
Simon doesn’t understand,the issue is they have put the club in a ridiculous amount of debt. You can’t just say that’s business. That’s the argument. Their wasn’t any debt until they turned up. Anybody would be angry that their club has been put in debt, and never any intention of paying it off.
If the business is worth 6billion, 500 million is nothing.
Current market cap is usually irrelevant. If the market cap is currently 3 billion. Every shareholder could sell to get there equivalent of that 3 billion. If a company expects itself to grow over the next few years. It requires the buyer to offer more than what they’ll be worth X amongst years down the line. If my business is worth 3 billion now. 5 years down the line I expect it to be worth 6 billion. I could just wait and sell my shares then, giving me the flexibility to choose when to deal with the capital gains tax. If the glazers think it’ll be worth 6 billion in 5 years. You need to pay a premium to warrant me to sell now. That’s a very basic explanation of the market cap argument
Truly the only way to force the Glazers out is to see it in business terms. Protests are about our opinions and feelings and they couldn’t two shits about either. Business is about money. At least 90% of fans NEED to stop going to games, unfollow all social media and not buy any merchandise and they’ll be gone within a month or two. As soon as their pockets are hit that hard they’ll flee like rats on a sinking ship.
As a Man United fan I hate saying this but Simon has made some very good factual points. Fact is when u buy a brand u aren't buying it 100% straight cash there will always be leveraged debt involved. The Glazers unfortunately aren't daft people they know what they want & unfortunately their shares are very well secure so they can hold out for far more than what the club is worth.
I think the what us United fans are most pissed at is the debt they placed on us aswell as the amount of interest we've paid out regarding that debt over 900m which could've been used to upgrade Old Trafford aswell as Carrington. Also we haven't exactly had the right people running the club. If we had a proper DOF that knows what they're doing we wouldn't be as messed up we wouldn't of signed half the players we did on stupid wages etc.
Any competent business owner should want their business run well ( E.G. appoints a proper CEO ). The Glazers have not. They've had buffoons ( from a football Ops perspective, not financial ) managing and having final say over player transfer and development INF decisions for 2 decades now.
There is literally no excuse for that.
You can not say that abramovich did not love Chelsea
Simon Jordan
He should be a professor in Sports business at big Universities
If anyone involved in simple trade he'll understand what Simon is saying, people already offered 6b so that's the standard now because people were actually willing to pay that amount (real value)
English media twerking for oil money to take over United but complain when players leave to play for oil money 😅
The previous owners would buy the best players and still make a profit. The glazers didn't spend any of their own money when buying players overall the buying increase the debt they put on the club, which we didn't have before the glazers the servicing of the debt has hindered our purchasing especially this year we have had to sell to buy never in all the years have we had to depend on selling player's to get player's in so much so we have missed out on player's such as Kim min jae, lavia, kane I have a supporter since 1986 Simon seems to be part of the owners union he would probably say the glazers are better owners than the previous owners
Yes Simon, you work to pay off your mortgage to clear the debt, the Glazers are not paying the debt off!
To me as a supporter and fan of United this is good news the Glazers have to sell!
Many a Club would bite a hand off to have the success manU had under the Glazer's. If anyone thinks Glazer's selling ManU will immediately return them to dominance is in for a rude awakening
@samwize28 I would prefer the Glazer's leave and be taken over by Everton's owners
@samwize28 then my truest answer is that I really don't care and I don't think it will have that significant impact on Utd within the next 4 years anyway. I think Utd fans are more hoping and dreaming it will same as opposition fans are hoping and dreaming that the Glazer's are the biggest issue and will thus stay. I think both are wrong
@samwize28 not likely....and if a year after the takeover ManU achieves roughly the same results. You'll know why. But...don't think of me or anything...I'd likely have forgotten and moved on anyway
As a Utd fan, I agree with Simon's explanation. It's a business - but the Glazers have made football success a secondary issue
Highest net spend over the past 10 years in the prem.
But Glazers out.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Usually we fans get to hear ex players speak and having a former owner is so much more refreshing, what a gem he is mr Jordan ✅
The share price could go down to $1 it means nothing. Man Utd will be sold more than its worth on paper end of.
The only way the glazers may be pressured to sell is if there was literally a riot at old trafford and the offices/stadium/carrington are damaged and destroyed to a huge extent. Then and only then sponsors may distance themselves and maybe some pressure to sell. However man utd has so many fans that will just fill the seats.
I love the glazers, probably because I'm a 51 year old city fan.. the glazers have zombified the fans that gloried in my misery when my team had no future 😂😂
I love that man City get no credit for any of their success .. I love how every football fan talks about them as cheats 😂😂😂
Thankfully Simon explains why its not worth freaking out about. So many people talking out their butts on what the share price represents.
How can he say that United are the biggest club in the world with 3 European cups to their name?? Real Madrid have 14 and have consistently attracted the greatest players in history to play for them Puskas, Di Stefano, Raul, Zidane, R9, CR7 the list goes on and on Barcelona the same....United are the biggest brand in the world
Danny is watching and learning from Simon. Smart! Whilst Jim only understands a paystub.
in their pea in 2009, Cristiano Ronaldo left Manchester united to join Real madrid that did not cross 16 round of champions league for many years, there is no world in which Manchester united is compared to Real Madrid
You clearly don’t know much about football.
the value of a company is the value of every share in said company on any given day i.e. the *market cap* People will buy shares if available at the lower price until the market reacts to substantial buying of said shares and then it becomes supply and demand. So keep nibbling away and you could buy a chunk of Man United on the cheap and if lucky enough to own seven percent or more of the *market cap* you can under USA law have a seat on the board now that would be interesting.
''Hey Jim, what's your opinion on such and such?''
''I don't know, what do most fans think? I'll think that too.''
United fan here.
I'm not happy to say I told you so, but I'm a realist.
I get a lot of stick from fellow reds for my opinions but heres how I see the situation.
Ask yourself..... why would ANYBODY sell Manchester United?
Especially when it's obvious that the club value will only increase with the Saudis Qataris etc starting to invest in football.
Even when we're doing terrible for our standards, we STILL generate hundreds of millions of pounds a year.
No amount of protests will change that.
No boycott will work cos the ticket will get sold to a tourist who will spend hundreds in the shop and around the stadium.
Then, factor in that the ONLY reason they would possibly sell is to please the fans.
The same fans that celebrated their fathers death and now chant about killing them.
Owning MUFC gives unlimited credit around the world and secures the future of every Glazer for generations to come.
I believe the banks may have been asking for some assurances on the debt, this whole process would have reassured them comfortably.
The debt will be restructured and nothing will change.
Possibly a huge loan to pay for the training ground and stadium upgrades, heaping more debt on the club, which the glazers will never personally pay.
It's genius business, you have to admit.
Considering all this.... Again I ask....
Why would ANYBODY sell Manchester United???
I think Simon is missing the possibility that maybe the people looking to buy are not offering any more than the share price.
Manchester United is in somewhat of a financial situation, greenwood-100 million.
Anthony possibility -100 million.
Sancho possibility-75 million.
Stadium need money spending. 500 to 900 million.
Also to replace those players. 200 million.
Ineos and Qatar have both bid about £5.5b. That's three times what the stock market valued the club at before this process started, and double what the stock market currently values the club at.
Does Jim have any idea what he's talking about? One minute he's arguing if Man United have bigger expectations than Brighton then he's asking how much Real Madrid is worth. All over the place
"self entitled fans" 🤦♂ our own stadium is falling apart all we ask is a owner that will invest in fixing the club so the club can run it’s self.
This only affects shareholders and investors who will sell this moment of time, the owners want 10 bill which is not reflective of the share price.
Highest net spending (2014-2023)
1. Manchester United - £1,196.6m
2. Chelsea - £885.5m
3. Paris St-Germain - £865.8m
4. Arsenal - £746.9m
5. Manchester City - £733.8m
6. Newcastle United - £575.2m
7. Barcelona - £568.4m
8. Tottenham - £522.1m
9. AC Milan - £467.3m
10. West Ham United - £451.9m
11. Aston Villa - £414.3m
12. Liverpool - £395.3m
13. Al-Hilal - £391.3m
14. Juventus - £385m
15. Everton - £336.1m
16. Crystal Palace - £322.3m
17. Bournemouth - £294.9m
18. Bayern Munich - £294.1m
19. Real Madrid - £277.6m
20. Nottingham Forest
Whoever is the buyer, i mean, what kind of sense would it make to pay out the holders of public shares? Just pay for the glazers controlling stake, and let the public markets go wherever. If they collapse, and only then, buy up the rest, but otherwise its a waste of good money to pay the premium price to public shareholders.
if share price was a true representation of value then why did twitter go for 3x the share price
The real blame at man United was the previous owners to the Glazers. I have seen many businesses bought and sold, owners should have a responsibility to sell to someone that will do the right things for that business which may not always be the highest bidder. The financing for the club should have been looked at in that they should have said no to anyone who needed to buy something with credit in that way as clearly the business would be paying back the debt not the new owners so you are making the future of the business suffer. The club is more than just assets, their is a brand here and so the fans who love that club deserve to see it treated right. The sale should never have gone ahead, once the glazers had it of course they were going to suck money from it as they are commercial people and not real lovers of the club or even football
couldn't replace Fergie but they missed out on Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti
Danny Murphy looks lost, can't argue with Simon's sharp brainy arguments
Football is a business. Why is it so hard for people to understand? It's no longer your club now it belongs to Middle Eastern sheikhs and US based investment groups. Might as well change the name of the club to McDonalds United. Might bring in some extra dividend.
Simion is missing out that their current price of 5 billion is on the premise of them actually being successful again and their brand. That is the ceiling.... If it wasn't they would have pulled the plug already. I think it's them postering...
The biggest spending club in England, Ha Ha and they still blame the Glaziers, every time they lose its the Glaziers fault Ha Ha we all love these fans, PLEASE KEEP THE GLAZIERS HA HA
He's right on the business aspect bviously but continues to dodge the point that the goal of football is to win, and United have won almost nothing in the last 10 years because of the Glazers. Yes Boehly wants to see a return on investment, and yes petro states want to sports wash their reputations, but they all see winning as the way to do that.
The share price has gone up and down every day since United were listed and its never had this much scrutiny before 🤣
How thick is Jim White 😂😂
I wont lie I had no idea wtf they were talking about hahahahahahahahahaha
Danny hates hearing Simon say how big Man Utd are haha
"That's not the only reason. Hehe" Sounds like David Brent
Danny Liverpool Murphy cant stand to admit United might be the biggest brand name in football, he's desperate to say its Real Madrid
Bec its not, real Madrid are way bigger not just a little bigger, way bigger club, way bigger brand, so as Bayern Liverpool and Barcelona. You utd fans are deluded, no one wants to play for utd nowdays
Manchester United would sell for far more money than Real Madrid if they both went on sale tomorrow. Simply because of the commercial aspect of being in the Premier League. The share price is irrelevant.
Man U is living in past glory ……look at the new Madrid stadium to start with.
Simple economics. The value of something is what somebody is willing to pay for it.
Supply and demand. If noone wants to buy then your argument is irrelevant
Glazers out.. Plunge the stock
just to be clear on what is actually happening the Glazers have no debt the club has the debt and they are not clearing that debt they are paying the interest on the debt to stop it going up but that's all they are doing the debt remains exactly the same as it was and will for as long as the Glazers keep the club. The glaziers and shareholders are getting quarterly dividend from the club and putting the club up for sale did increase the share value it would be interesting to know if they took dividends out of the club at that point and find out if this was a con job all the time just for that purpose.
i feel the Glaziers have diminished the value, still one of the biggest clubs in the world commercially but compared to before they was so much further ahead than everyone else
Emotions have nothing to do with this, just because you 'feel' a certain way doesn’t make it true and did you really think that other clubs wouldn’t eventually catch on and do the same? Football is now a business, of course other clubs would follow and eventually catch up, that has nothing to do with the ownership as they can’t stop anyone copying their business model.
To say the share price is irrelevant is absolutely stupid. There's always a discount on what the company is worth and the price of the share. Even if the company is worth 100 billion pounds, the share price will never reflect that. The share price reflects what the general public thinks it's worth and is willing to invest in. It's irrelevant only in the sense that the owner isn't selling, but the share price is a reflection of how the company is performing at the moment and how it will perform in the future.
To say Man United is Ferrari is a bit of a stretch. They definitely were, but they're fast becoming Maserati. Huge name, but no one can get it right or run it properly. Man United not being able to find the right manager, is absolutely down to the owner and the board. They're not hiring the right person for the job, so of course, the results would reflect that. A company's success is always directly related to the people up top. No company in the history of mankind has succeeded with an incompetent owner and board. The fact that, after Fergie, almost every manager that was hired played a different brand of football. You never see Ajax, Barcelona play or teach a different type of football, even Arsenal always sticks to a particular brand of football.
Vouchers to Spearmint 🤣😂🤣 Sounds like Danny's knows his stuff
Simon Jordan at his best. Jordan knows business and he is extremely clever and knowledgeable when discussing football. When it comes to boxing my opinion changes; however, on football and the business of football clubs the man is very good and extremely interesting to listen too.
Danny Murphy having a nice little draw around 6 minutes.
Hes right but will effedt ffp and player bids
Simon is right….share price is simply a measurement a guide and not the true value. Things are worth what people are willing to pay
In hindsight I Bet Mike Ashley wished he’d have stuck a few zeros on the end of Newcastles asking price when he sold it
Share price only matters to current investors. You can buy on a low price and capitalise on it but who the hell in their right mind will bank on Manure bouncing back.
Abramovich was forced to sell, by Simon's logic then surely Chelsea would have gone for a lot more had he sold when he wanted to, so Man U's value when compared to Chelsea isn't as Simon suggests...
Why is it so hard to understand for, whats his name?, what Simon is telling him again and again in this show?
The price on the exchange can be whatever it is, if the owner of the shares ( in this case Glazers) isn't willing to sell for that price, it isn't going to happen in a thousand years.
United is NOT in the conversation with Real Madrid (14 cl titles)
It's about brand, global reach, financial juggernauts. If there were a crown with jewels, United would be center right of Madrid.
@@diddyxl Madrid is way above them in that matter too. Bayern Liverpool Barcelona are also bigger, and I'd say some other clubs are bigger than man utd
No, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Barcelona, Juventud, AC Milan are ahead of Man United by far.
Football has peaked. It's going to go the same way as the music industry and the film industry. Piracy will kill the revenue stream. It's coming down the track.
People have been saying this for 39 years.
Would be funny if this was just to drive the costs down for the saudis to buy the club. All the plebs buying united "shares" speculating they will get a good price when saudis buy. Little bit of noise and the price drops, lock in the deal at the reduced price. For 30% of shares outstanding on the market.
Again Simon misses the point. He says united havent replaced SAF. They have pretty much met the expectations set by the glazers over the last 10 years. Average of a 4th place finish. Minimum investment. No structural or infrastructure spending. Its all about keeping the show on the road. I think this is their last great bluff and it will backfire. Why pay 6b for mufc when you can buy LFC for 3, Spurs for 2, WH for .5b etc and by pass united in a couple of years. Sure these teams are not at united level in terms of income, brand recognition, but even if you buy liverpool for 3b, united would have to make 100m more in profits per year for 30 years for it to make sense as an investment. And no one makes investmets on that time scale. Theyd want to see that return in 10 years. Once qatar are off the table no one is spending billions on a PL team.
Dont hate the player, hate the game.
Simon please advise the glazers to sell… if they sell everyone will be happy … it’s a win win situation for them
So Simon bought Crystal palace as a fan he has always said, but basically he bought it as a business mind set to make money, why else would you buy a business/football team??
Simon's point always seems to be the same: "everyone is wrong about everything"
Btw, the listed share price is the latest price people have SOLD shares for.
Credit to the Glazers. They are the owners and they can and will run their business as they want. A very shrewd investment and they are not going anywhere.