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  • Simon Jordan praises the Glazers for holding out to sell Manchester United until it suits them.
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  • @philiph99
    @philiph99 10 месяцев назад +226

    Anyone that goes to United games, is probably wearing a shirt, paid 70 quid to get into the stadium, bought a pint and chips for 10 quid. Chanting "we want Glazers out" literally does nothing. If you want to hurt them, stop going to games, cancel subscriptions"
    If you genuinely think chants are going to drive businessmen out of a club, then youve been brainwashed by Sky sports.
    The fanbase can say theyve been "protesting for 18 years" but theyve only had one effective one where they got the game cancelled against Liverpool

    • @TheAuthorizedJay
      @TheAuthorizedJay 10 месяцев назад +22

      I agree.
      It's so weird to see people protesting against the owners after they've paid probably over 100 quid to said owners to watch the game live.
      If they stopped giving them money, maybe they'd leave.

    • @philiph99
      @philiph99 10 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@TheAuthorizedJayit's laughable. Even last week, when fans stayed in the stadium "protesting". The same people paid to get into the stadium. They should do what Milan did, and literally boycott games

    • @cestrian5294
      @cestrian5294 10 месяцев назад +3

      Been saying this for years, but nobody will ever do that. I hope the Glazers never go back to OT because they will be in danger.

    • @TheAuthorizedJay
      @TheAuthorizedJay 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@philiph99
      Imagine paying someone you hate to leave & being surprised when they stay 🤣🤣🤣

    • @user-dq6se6er8j
      @user-dq6se6er8j 10 месяцев назад

      That reads like a liable threat. Be careful what you post online

  • @carlosKH13
    @carlosKH13 10 месяцев назад +192

    Most Man United fans will agree on the business part of what Simon says. What I take issue with is how Simon always reduces the blame on the Glazers for our poor performances.
    Who do you think employs these incompetent employees??
    You always say about how much money we spend but never take into account that we literally overpay for everything! A £40mil player for Liverpool would end up costing us £70mil plus double the wages.
    Our recruitment is a shambles because the Glazers employ incompetent employees.
    Also when Gary Neville says the Glazers are broke, he doesn’t mean they literally have no money and Simon must know this. Neville clearly means that they do not have the means to spend a billion on the rotting facilities in Old Trafford and Carrington.
    The only money that gets spend is purely on the clubs revenue or our increasing debt, which they quite simply cannot afford to keep increasing.
    People do not realise WE SPENT AS MUCH ON DEBT INTEREST LAST YEAR AS WE DID ON TRANSFERS BUT THE GLAZERS STILL TAKE DIVIDENDS

    • @DevilSince77
      @DevilSince77 10 месяцев назад +5

      Well said 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @Darth-Boner
      @Darth-Boner 10 месяцев назад +4

      I'm not reading that. You are someone who knows nothing.

    • @josephkerrigan733
      @josephkerrigan733 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@Darth-Boner you're *

    • @carlosKH13
      @carlosKH13 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Darth-Boner you don’t have to

    • @carlosKH13
      @carlosKH13 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@Darth-Boner everybody who comments is “a no one” so why are you in the comments section

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 10 месяцев назад +24

    I quite enjoyed Stuart Pearce thoughts on this matter something Gary Neville should do more often.

    • @alistairpayne5357
      @alistairpayne5357 10 месяцев назад +3

      Lol enjoyed that .

    • @swiss300173
      @swiss300173 10 месяцев назад +3

      Pearce made some valid points 🤣

    • @Othraerir
      @Othraerir 10 месяцев назад +3

      it looked like he was gonna say something, but simon just kept talking

    • @sammybeck4855
      @sammybeck4855 10 месяцев назад

      LFC Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber

  • @keithstitt9532
    @keithstitt9532 10 месяцев назад +22

    Glazer's delusional. The same people who thought Woodward was an excellent businessman, Ole was an elite manager and Martial is a top player! High stakes poker players.

    • @iso460
      @iso460 10 месяцев назад +1

      Glazers didnt look at Ole and thought "this is the perfect manager". Its people inside the club hired by them to make sporting decisions

    • @keithstitt9532
      @keithstitt9532 10 месяцев назад

      @@iso460 yes, just shows the level of negligence at United. Send financial reports and money. Everything else to be dealt with by the serving folk.

    • @iso460
      @iso460 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@keithstitt9532 I dont protect Glazers or anything. I just wanna spread, its pretty funny that Uniteds worth has growen over past decade just like Liverpool. But while Liverpool have owners who hire the right people, uniteds worth is by media, shirt sales etc.
      I think United are at a point where the WHOLE fanbase has to stop financing the Glazers pockets

    • @keithstitt9532
      @keithstitt9532 10 месяцев назад

      @@iso460 the only way to " hurt" the Glazer's is in their pockets. Totally agree.

    • @Johnster123.
      @Johnster123. 10 месяцев назад +4

      Man United fans asked for all this, they wanted Maguire, Pogba, Sancho, Sanchez, Martial etc and were happy with Ole until it all went wrong. Then they blame the glazers.

  • @paulgreeves6304
    @paulgreeves6304 10 месяцев назад +26

    I'm not sure that Simon Jordan does himself any favor's by saying that the Glazers don't need to sell because "they are not short of a bob or two". He is correct in that the Glazer family are wealthy but what Simon fails to acknowledge is that the club needs over £2 billion spent on the stadium, training ground and infrastructure, then on top of that the club is servicing a debt of over £1 billion. Gary Neville's point is that the club has none of it's own money to pay for investment needed, £3 billion +, and the Glazer family will not invest any of their own money in order to pay for all these improvements, they never have invested. Simon is also correct in saying that there are people within the club that are not doing their jobs well enough but that is where the owners should be stepping in and employing the right people in the right roles, remember that it is the DoF and his team that give out ridiculous contracts to players, some United players get over £200k a week where other clubs would be paying that same player £80k a week, which leads on to why it is near on impossible to move these players on when it doesn't work out. The club is completely mismanaged at the top. What we need to remember is that United before the Glazers always had over £300 million in the bank and had the best stadium and training ground in the country, all paid for. All the Glazers had to do was maintain what was there and make small improvements year on year instead of taking ridiculous amounts of money out in dividends. Instead the club is debt ridden with a decaying stadium and training ground and it has maxed out all of it's credit cards.

    • @davemufcwhitehead2863
      @davemufcwhitehead2863 10 месяцев назад +3

      Bang on the money Paul. Couldn't of said it better myself. We all know once the club is sold. And we have no debt and we have a buyer willing to put money into the stadium. Training ground and employing the best in class people in there respective roles the club will go places. I believe we have the right coach. We badly need a dof that knows what he's doing. The recruitment going forward is important to get the correct players to fit ten hags system. And get rid of all the toxic players. Player power at man united needs sorted out. But again if we have the correct owners and make the correct decisions the sky is the limit. We have what city don't have. The history, the fan base. We could over take them again in 5 years if done correctly. Getting rid of these leaches is another thing that's the problem. Holding out for 10 billion is simply outrageous!

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 10 месяцев назад

      You are totally correct in what you've stated with the possible exception of inflating the cost of doing the long outstanding infrastructure refurbishments. It is almost unbelievable that these greedy leeches aren't satisfied with a 6 billion return on the 200 million investment out of their own pocket to buy the club, which they've already had returned through dividends they have gauged out of the club. As we all know, the remaining borrowed money to buy the club was put on to United's tab and that debt has actually grown. They are running the club into the ground. If Qatar withdraws their offer to buy another EPL club, United will inevitably fall yet another rung down the ladder. For greedy people they sure know how to waste money by not appointing a capable Director of football to avoid paying highly inflated transfer fees and salaries for players that aren't priority signings.

    • @MrSupermanbe
      @MrSupermanbe 10 месяцев назад

      @@gustaaf1892 I am not even sure the £200m was from their pockets. It was a heavily leveraged purchase.

    • @rossmcgowan123
      @rossmcgowan123 10 месяцев назад

      How does Simon not do himself any favours? The glazers can bleed the club dry. They don't need to care about investment. They can keep their money and reap the revenue You've not made sense.

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 10 месяцев назад

      @@MrSupermanbe My understanding is that it was around 200m of their own money with the remaining 600-650m leveraged against the club.

  • @nathanliepner689
    @nathanliepner689 10 месяцев назад +26

    The problem with Simons closing statementn is he talks as if the glazers were the ones to bring success to united, which brings the proposed value of the club where it is today. All they did was piggy back off the success of Ferguson

    • @zl132
      @zl132 10 месяцев назад +1

      so what? no one gives a monkeys about your salty feelings. Least of all the glazers. They bought the club at a price the ex owners felt fair and will sell at a price they deem fair. if you don't like that, buy it yourself

    • @DB-07
      @DB-07 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@zl132they bought….not entirely. They leveraged the club and put the club in debt. How it was ever allowed to happen is a disgrace.

  • @TribalThief
    @TribalThief 10 месяцев назад +8

    Stadiums rotting, they've never spent a penny

  • @GKwan111
    @GKwan111 10 месяцев назад +5

    I like Stuart Pearce’s ability to listen and let Simon say his piece. Without interrupting. We should all try and do this.

  • @Joelinton1892
    @Joelinton1892 10 месяцев назад +18

    As depressing as it is for Man U fans protesting etc does nothing. When we wanted Mike Ashely out of Newcastle we did countless protests, 10000 fans didnt renew season tickets. None of it did anything. They will go when they want to.

    • @BatTaz19
      @BatTaz19 10 месяцев назад +5

      Newcastle sold their soul to get rid of Ashley.
      No longer a great club.
      Sportwashing for head choppers.

    • @Joelinton1892
      @Joelinton1892 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@BatTaz19 fake activist

    • @AdamDavis-ph8io
      @AdamDavis-ph8io 10 месяцев назад +1

      The soul of football was brought out years ago.
      If Saudi money turns Newcastle fc into a world class team then it’s win win,
      The fans get the titles and trophies they’ve never had and Saudi Win the eternal love of Geordies at not a head needs be lopped.

    • @wayne5240
      @wayne5240 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@BatTaz19original

    • @KingDamienthefirst
      @KingDamienthefirst 10 месяцев назад

      I'm a United fan with hope but your comment made a light bulb off and i realised 'Oh yeah it didn't help Newcastle' but please don't post comments like this, i'm depressed enough as it is and i'd rather live in a naive bubble of hope lol. You just sucked the joy out of the rest of my day loooool Good luck to Newcastle though, hopefully we can join you soon, we need Qatar

  • @kaisersolo76
    @kaisersolo76 10 месяцев назад +29

    While simon is probably correct - they'll have a shell of a club thats falling apart and losing value. Stadium is a serious concern.

    • @nickraoyj
      @nickraoyj 10 месяцев назад +1

      Imagine if a disaster happens at Old Trafford and the stadium requires instant repair, that would finally force their hand, as morbid as it sounds.

    • @ameypv
      @ameypv 10 месяцев назад +2

      the on and off the field failings will soon catch up to this club and the market value will dwindle rather than rise. United are a sinking ship and the day isn’t too far when this club will a shadow of its former self while the others are streets ahead.

    • @wukongsun6223
      @wukongsun6223 10 месяцев назад +1

      I see people that doesn't fully understand the financial market

    • @MadMurdock69
      @MadMurdock69 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@ameypvUtd as a club will never sink..

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 10 месяцев назад

      @@MadMurdock69 It won't disappear, but it is at risk of just becoming a run of the mill club that is not able to compete for major silverware. Truth is that it has already become that, but it could get a lot worse. People didn't think that a club like AC Milan could become an also ran, but they were for many years and are still trying to climb the ladder once again. United falls short on so many fronts that it is almost embarrassing. It can't even employ a decent Director of Football to avoid paying highly inflated transfer fees and salaries for players that aren't priority signings. There is a serious risk that United could fall out of the top 6 this season. I think that any of City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Brighton, Spurs, Villa and Newcastle will or could finish above us and we could finish around where I expect Chelsea to be.

  • @carlosKH13
    @carlosKH13 10 месяцев назад +65

    Simon needs to actually debate somebody who properly understands the terrible impact of the Glazers on our club. I have a feeling his lack of blame on them for our terrible performances is largely just for attention. Just wants to go against the grain for the sake of being devils advocate but the argument falls flat almost immediately with any sort of pushback.

    • @adammohamed..
      @adammohamed.. 10 месяцев назад +13

      So do they take credit when United won the league 5/7 years from 06-07 to 12-13?

    • @TheDevilsAccountant
      @TheDevilsAccountant 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@adammohamed..no fergie does

    • @PharmacyAve
      @PharmacyAve 10 месяцев назад +7

      Simon is spot on Glazers spent all the money got all the Ajax players for the manager got you a CR what else y’all want from an owner ?

    • @jebsshmeb224
      @jebsshmeb224 10 месяцев назад

      @@PharmacyAve The Glazers (i.e the owners) didn’t spend a penny on these transfers. They didn’t invest a penny into the football club. The money that was used for those transfers was from THE CLUBS revenue, NOT the OWNERS investment. There’s a clear distinction

    • @indobleh
      @indobleh 10 месяцев назад +13

      It's not *your* club though. It's the Glazers club, they own it. Simon debating you or anyone else outside of the owners isn't going to make any difference. The fans do not own anything, they are customers, who continue paying.

  • @andrewroberts4736
    @andrewroberts4736 10 месяцев назад +18

    If they decide not to sell, Gary Neville will spontaneously combust. 😂

    • @nickraoyj
      @nickraoyj 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lol if the Glazers truly don't sell, think we will finally see some genuine violence committed, either at Old Trafford or against the Glazers directly. Nothing is worse than dangling a carrot in front of a hungry person for so long and then snatching it away at the last second. Push someone too far, and you must get ready to pay. The violence against the Everton board last season is a harbinger of what's to come.

    • @whoknew2273
      @whoknew2273 10 месяцев назад

      Cue old Trafford invasion lol

    • @pabloes588
      @pabloes588 10 месяцев назад

      Think he will when Labour don’t win the next election as well 😂

    • @petemills5704
      @petemills5704 10 месяцев назад

      And will probably broadcast it for a fee

  • @cavior44
    @cavior44 10 месяцев назад +6

    The word is that the Glazers asked Maguire and he said no. He makes the decisions and runs that club.

  • @richyclubsport5155
    @richyclubsport5155 10 месяцев назад +8

    You might not like what Simon is saying, but that's how billionaires work, I've never felt they'd sell

    • @myhatmygandhi6217
      @myhatmygandhi6217 10 месяцев назад +3

      Simon was proven right. He knows the business side of things and called this ages ago.

  • @vo4068
    @vo4068 10 месяцев назад +8

    I sometimes think Simon is the only adult in the room, he has some logic !

    • @sopronunciareglignocchi7255
      @sopronunciareglignocchi7255 10 месяцев назад

      He's way off the mark

    • @myhatmygandhi6217
      @myhatmygandhi6217 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@-The-DarksideUtd fans going on about the stadium again. It's not that bad and when they do decide to sell the club they will get at least 6 or 7 billion. Ultimately, it's their business and they can do as they like.

  • @Moe226
    @Moe226 10 месяцев назад +4

    If they got only 1 buyer at around 6B what makes them think they going to get 10b in two years. Another case if there was a lineup of prospective buyers currently.

    • @nickraoyj
      @nickraoyj 10 месяцев назад

      You can thus deduce why United are operating in a confused, deluded manner.

    • @jamieh4357
      @jamieh4357 10 месяцев назад +2

      Especially if they drop even further behind by then and can't count on all these additional revenue streams like the Club World Cup etc that they're banking on.

    • @Moe226
      @Moe226 10 месяцев назад

      @@jamieh4357 absolutely. by the way things are going, the value will only decline

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 10 месяцев назад

      The club is only valued at around 3 billion, but the greedy leeches aren't satisfied with close to a 6 billion return on the investment of just 200 million of their own money to buy the club, which has already been well and truly returned to them through the dividends they have clawed out of the club. I expect Qatar to move on and buy another EPL, which would inevitably push United another rung down the ladder. Their current offer is effectively about 2 billion more than it appears on face value because they are also taking on a billion in debt as well as about a billion in necessary and long overdue infrastructure refurbishments. There is a limit to how much over an asset valuation even the filthy rich Qataris are prepared to pay.

  • @alexanderodiase361
    @alexanderodiase361 10 месяцев назад +4

    Sad, but Simon is speaking truth.

  • @astrologiaeaudiobooks7278
    @astrologiaeaudiobooks7278 10 месяцев назад +3

    Hear it, Mark Goldbridge!

  • @chrisbrader7720
    @chrisbrader7720 10 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely Spot on!

  • @ashleybailey8230
    @ashleybailey8230 10 месяцев назад +1

    I really enjoyed stuart pearce take on this subject.

  • @josephdormon478
    @josephdormon478 10 месяцев назад +7

    No wonder he failed with Crystal Palace
    Absolute joke

  • @declanokeeffe84
    @declanokeeffe84 10 месяцев назад +4

    Sentimentality will force businesses hands if United supporters vote with their feet and stop supporting them financially.
    I'm also surprised that United supporters have not held protests at Tampa Bay Bucaneers games. This tactic had a big effect on previous owners out when United fans protested during horse race meetings.

    • @paulie-g
      @paulie-g 10 месяцев назад

      .. and look how well that's gone, now they have the Glazers. Done it to themselves.

  • @jackwei22
    @jackwei22 10 месяцев назад

    Either way the club hasn't got anymore money and cleary needs investment one way or another as Joel ans Avarm knows this as a full sale is the easy way out or taking on investiment with high interest rates repayment plan putting more debt onto the club I don't know about that.

  • @pdfarrelly
    @pdfarrelly 10 месяцев назад +5

    This argument would hold more water if the glazers didn't go to Qatar to try and drum up interest in a sale and if their other businesses were successful. They haven't kept pace with the increase in revenue that united had over rivals before they bough us. Simon said it when he went the glazers think if someone offers 5 they'll go to 7, if they offer 6 they go to 7. You can push your luck too far.

    • @huna1950
      @huna1950 10 месяцев назад

      Sand boys went to blazers not other way round mate!! They don’t need to sell

    • @pdfarrelly
      @pdfarrelly 10 месяцев назад

      @huna1950 well you are just wrong on that. It's in the press and online by multiple sources. They didn't draw down a dividend for the first time in years this year and are losing about 1 to 2 million a week. They can keep united on life support. Especially if 5th gets CL. But they are not interested in "winning". The club has been for sale from moment they bought it.

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 10 месяцев назад

      @@pdfarrelly I think they went to Qatar to discuss an increased bid from them, but Qatar had made the initial contact to bid for the the club. Based on what I've seen so far this season, I think it is very doubtful United will finish in the top 5. I think that any of City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Brighton, Spurs, Villa and Newcastle will or could finish above us and we could finish around where I expect Chelsea to be. ETH performed a miracle last season to get third, but we're not playing anywhere near that level now and don't have the money to improve the squad in January.

  • @yohan7165
    @yohan7165 10 месяцев назад +1

    What Simon says is technically correct but I hate the way he paints the Glazers as some sort of financial geniuses. All they did is a leveraged buyout. It's very common practice. The way the glazers have conducted themselves in exploring opportunities (which definitely does also mean a sale) is shockingly arrogant

  • @seniorvespa2743
    @seniorvespa2743 10 месяцев назад +2

    Simon is 100% right and I am a Man U fan. The Glazers bought Man U with very little money, as they knew the banks would lend them the rest, like when buying a house, the asset in this case being Man U Club was undervalued by the previous owners, hence the banks agreeing with Glazers and giving them the rest of the money to buy it. So if fans really want to be upset with the way it was bought, the fault lies with the previous sellers and they invited this kind of purchase.

    • @andrewhoughton2617
      @andrewhoughton2617 10 месяцев назад +2

      Anyone who knows the history or our club doesn’t refer to us as ‘man u’. Go do some research. GLAZERS OUT

    • @seniorvespa2743
      @seniorvespa2743 10 месяцев назад

      @@andrewhoughton2617 hahahahaha you are funny

  • @yvonnelawless320
    @yvonnelawless320 10 месяцев назад

    More money is needed for Old Trafford, Carrington renovation also the team needs major investment to compete. The value will fall as the stadium and squad rots

  • @steevobarker581
    @steevobarker581 10 месяцев назад +2

    Since when as a World Cup been in a year with an odd number at the end?
    Knows his stuff does Jordan.
    Says a lot without saying much.

  • @jamesasc7709
    @jamesasc7709 10 месяцев назад +1

    they never said selling, they said "seeking investment". Same as FSG.

  • @richardduff5894
    @richardduff5894 10 месяцев назад +3

    Simon Jordan can do one

  • @martinsundland7614
    @martinsundland7614 10 месяцев назад

    Ten Hag seems to have decided to turn tables on the Glazers by displaying that the lack of stability re. the ownership and willingness to spend money on top-notch recruits leads to lacklustre results which, in turn, lowers the value of the club and, thereby, what they can reasonably expect in return. What a mess!

  • @TimGreenHelm
    @TimGreenHelm 10 месяцев назад

    Appreciate Stewart’s input on that one

  • @Petrosmurf9
    @Petrosmurf9 10 месяцев назад +1

    Idk as a United fan yea the glazers bother me, they aren’t allowing us to grow and get to where we should be but at the end of the day THEY are the owners, not me.

  • @pabloes588
    @pabloes588 10 месяцев назад

    The thing is if the glazers actually cleared house and started again with best in class around eth then united will be successful again and the value will rise
    It’s been 10 years and they’ve done nothing so don’t see how the value will rise in fact I see it decreasing if the current people remain in charge

  • @RJAH355
    @RJAH355 10 месяцев назад

    They have no intention of selling the club. It’s also a very good way to get the shares to go up and make profit

  • @indobleh
    @indobleh 10 месяцев назад

    Why do fans think a business, that they choose to be paying customers of, then think they are in someway 'owners' of that club?

  • @jonchapman86
    @jonchapman86 10 месяцев назад +1

    I find it strange when United fans and Gary Neville complain about the Glazers. Fergie once said "They have been great, they have always backed me whenever I have asked them. I have never faced any opposition. "They have always been as sensible as they can be in terms of financing the club."
    People below the Glazers have not been doing their jobs well enough in recent years.

  • @jazchaz1274
    @jazchaz1274 10 месяцев назад +1

    Simon Jordon summed it up perfectly.....lots of thngs are going to happen in the future and the Glazers want a piece of the action
    Why would they sell????
    They don't need to....
    You would do the same...🧐🧐🧐🧐

  • @davidlogan8905
    @davidlogan8905 10 месяцев назад

    Probably the only thing the fans can do is take actions that can devalue the club, but do fans really really want to do that? They could do things that give Utd points deductions and ensure no CL football. That is cutting off your nose to spite your face in a sense, but it'd make the Glazers think about it.

  • @kevinduff3584
    @kevinduff3584 10 месяцев назад +1

    Simon doesn't understand this when he says there are people at the club who are "not doing their job" but who employs them oh wait a minute it's...the Glazers!

  • @jmphuhuck9735
    @jmphuhuck9735 10 месяцев назад

    I think most owners are banking on the super league happening soon... Chelsea, Barca, Real, Juve, and United seems to think it will be a possibility after UEFA introduces the new champions league format. Thats why they are reluctant to sell.

  • @Steiner08150
    @Steiner08150 10 месяцев назад +2

    I truly hope the glazers never sell up and there marvellous tenure with this bog standard mid table club continues for a long time to come. 🤞🏻

  • @EKANT1000
    @EKANT1000 10 месяцев назад +2

    Finally simon is saying its the glazers fault of their failures...

  • @wilber1982
    @wilber1982 10 месяцев назад

    Totally agree with Stuart Pearce on this one.

  • @forestfan7974
    @forestfan7974 10 месяцев назад

    Value of Premier League clubs has peaked. It is hard to see where more revenue is going to come from. Very little chance of more matches. TV rights are priced at optimal level. Where in the world is there an opportunity to sell more TV rights? England is not prospering so I think any buyer could wait five years and get as good a deal as they can now.

  • @garyjohnson3751
    @garyjohnson3751 10 месяцев назад

    Playa del ingles Monday 25th September 15 nights all inclusive

  • @Primitive01
    @Primitive01 10 месяцев назад

    Can’t really argue with what he’s saying in terms of it being a business but it’d be good if rules were brought in to give fans more of a say.. They have it in Germany and I’m sure it’d work here too.. The Premier League is a brand, clubs wouldn’t lose out on anything the Premier League already brings them and clubs as individual businesses could still hire people like Ed Woodward to go do massive sponsorship deals with Chinese noodle companies and bring in mega amounts of money.. It would just mean if the training facilities need upgrading, they’d get upgraded, if a leaky roof needed fixing, it’d get fixed, people with the interests of a club as their priority ensuring the club isn’t used as a “cash cow” and decisions are made for the betterment of the football club..
    Football is more than bunch of businesses and a football club isn’t a typical business, it’s the sport of the people all over the world and football clubs are started by communities of people who love the sport.. They’re not started by rich men who see it as an opportunity to make money, those people push their way in waving cash about and rinse the sport while having zero clue about it..

  • @kc8923
    @kc8923 10 месяцев назад +1

    Simon looks a bit tired and seems permanently short tempered but i always enjoy listening to his insights on football finance and ownership.

  • @davidsmart494
    @davidsmart494 10 месяцев назад +1

    The clubs in an absolute mess.. all want want is communication and some direction .. glazers out

  • @johnfulco8313
    @johnfulco8313 10 месяцев назад

    Simon should do some research. Avram glazer spoke directly to the media about them looking at all scenarios. Surely TalkSport can take 10 minutes to prep?

  • @gavincunningham4598
    @gavincunningham4598 10 месяцев назад

    Supposedly such a big rich club now have Evans and Maguire at centre backs

  • @wolfmanj12
    @wolfmanj12 10 месяцев назад +1

    They love money so they will not spend any money that will not make them money. Why invest in the stadium or the training facilities? That doesn’t make money.

  • @Fabbydabby1
    @Fabbydabby1 10 месяцев назад

    The glazers will sell soon as they can’t await to maintain the club.
    They can’t afford to fix the stadium or the training complex.
    Simon going on about other clubs
    The big difference is the debt levels at Man Utd are huge.
    Other clubs don’t have that level of debt.
    Now you could argue they have spent money on players but Richard Arnold came out & said the club needs 1 billion to fix the stadium now where’s that money coming from more debt? Then that has a knock on affect to buy players & then Man Utd stop competing at top 6 level because they have to service the debt interest. So then spending is cut other clubs are already taken over them in overall income made a season.

  • @JamesJohnAgar
    @JamesJohnAgar 10 месяцев назад

    They are not interested in selling they just hyped it up to boost the share price

  • @ghsense2626
    @ghsense2626 10 месяцев назад +1

    United is worth atleast 10 billion. That 5 billion dont make sense. They could sell their American football team for that amount of 5 billion

  • @christophersmith9838
    @christophersmith9838 10 месяцев назад

    So the stock value alone is about 3.5b. Soooo….it’s what the market will bear. But they were offered way more- hence the reason the stock dropped significantly today. They lost what it cost them initially but they don’t care as they didn’t actually use any of their own money to buy it.

  • @TheRightWayRoundTRWR
    @TheRightWayRoundTRWR 10 месяцев назад

    Makes no sense. If there are only 2 people trying to buy the club now and only want to offer 5b. Then why would anyone want to buy the club for 10b in 5 years

  • @seanusher3162
    @seanusher3162 10 месяцев назад +1

    I think the Glazers deal was a dodgy deal in the first place tbh🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️why would you buy Man United for 10 billion where they could buy Everton say and build a team with 10 billion. Because success builds success,

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 10 месяцев назад

      That is exactly what I expect Qatar to do. Withdraw their bid and then buy another EPL club on the cheap to build into a force. Everton would actually be a good target.

  • @indobleh
    @indobleh 10 месяцев назад

    Man Utd is a business, the fans are customers. A small number of global Man Utd fans sit in the stands and protest, it amounts to virtually nothing in the eyes of the owners. It's very much business first.

  • @Unitedbro1999
    @Unitedbro1999 10 месяцев назад +4

    Think what gary was eluding too is not that they're broke... how could they be when theyve taken dividends out for nearly 20 years, but that the club itself is broke. They have milked it for all its worth, they haven't put a penny in of their own money in 18 years dont think they'll start now. If there isnt a full sale there will have to be investment.

    • @NoahLookman9191
      @NoahLookman9191 10 месяцев назад

      Surely United's revenue is so vast for that not to be the case

    • @Unitedbro1999
      @Unitedbro1999 10 месяцев назад

      @@NoahLookman9191 they spend around 100 million a season serving the debt, that 500 million Simon was talking of, we have paid about 800 million back to the bank in debt repayments and still have debt.

    • @goncaloamaral7846
      @goncaloamaral7846 10 месяцев назад

      The club isn’t broke. Utd have the 2nd highest net spend in the PL this summer.

    • @Unitedbro1999
      @Unitedbro1999 10 месяцев назад

      @@goncaloamaral7846 the club is a billion in debt with a rotting stadium and training ground, if it was still as profitable as ever they wouldn't even be contemplating selling it. Take your rival specs off for one second, have a look and actually use your brain

    • @MoltenGriefing
      @MoltenGriefing 10 месяцев назад

      @@goncaloamaral7846 they arent using cash reservers thats using the club credit card. widely reported

  • @whoknew2273
    @whoknew2273 10 месяцев назад

    Do they really want to sell Man Utd or just trying to up the share prices

  • @sionprice2432
    @sionprice2432 10 месяцев назад

    Spot on and these fans having protests and sitting in is a waste of time as much as o respect them for doing it because company’s like Adidas have been targeted and what happened? They game them almost a billion pound deal over the next 10 years! The only thing that’s worked is having the game called off if the fans can somehow keep doing that then change will come.

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 10 месяцев назад

      What if the supporters actually boycotted buying any shirts for as long as the Glazers remain in place? That Adidas deal might then come under pressure. I'm sure there are some clauses in the contract that deal with minimum shirt sale numbers. Not playing CL football also lowers the annual contract payment.

  • @mn2k2shox
    @mn2k2shox 10 месяцев назад

    The whole point is that they never had ANY intention to sell whatsoever and I don’t care what anyone says.. they only did that to ease the fans.. to make it look like they tried but can’t find anyone to match their valuation and how can anyone meet that, when they constantly moving the finishing line? United was valued between 3-5 Billion so they wanted 6.. then when they were offered 6.. they wanted 7 and now apparently they wanted 10Billion!!!.. they’re making easy money with United since the club constantly making Millions no matter how terrible the team form has been and they don’t have and never have to put any of their own money back to the club

  • @antoncommissaris4198
    @antoncommissaris4198 10 месяцев назад +1

    Simon justifies everything as pure, smart business. Ok, but this ignores the fact that the club brand is in decline and losing value. It will not increase in value over the longer term with these owners no matter the external market factors. Moreover, any future potential bidder will look at the current process and think, that’s not for me. It’s not good business to hold onto an asset as it declines and build yourself a toxic reputation in the process. I think they’ll end up selling for less down the track than they could get now. How smart will the Glazers look then Simon? Only two bidders today. I predict zero at $7-10 billion.

  • @stevoc9930
    @stevoc9930 10 месяцев назад

    What was Stuart watching?

  • @mauromatos3124
    @mauromatos3124 10 месяцев назад

    Banking and finance add little benefit, take no risks and run away with all the money. This transaction is a perfect example.

  • @acstewart08
    @acstewart08 10 месяцев назад

    Utd fan here, the fans can protest all they want. The bad publicity has hardly made them budge. They don’t care what fans have to say, wasting their time now protesting and should get behind the team. One day hopefully it will all change as the biggest club in the world has had this horrible toxic environment for years now.

  • @carlpitter3096
    @carlpitter3096 10 месяцев назад

    They had a big open presentation

  • @Rebhara
    @Rebhara 10 месяцев назад

    Soon the club wont be making as much money as they wish, with the performances going down, and not being able to get the players they want, commercial revenue willl soon fall

  • @davoggdog
    @davoggdog 10 месяцев назад

    Spot on Stuart 👍

  • @markcollins1841
    @markcollins1841 10 месяцев назад +1

    Spitting fact always

  • @CastleLager-lf5eu
    @CastleLager-lf5eu 10 месяцев назад +1

    Qatar should buy an up and coming club like Brentford for a billion and then spend a billion in bring it UCL qualifying club.
    Or even Aston Villa - such a great club with a great history.
    That is so much better. Man Utd is a finished club living on the glories of the past. They have almost no young fans. The newer generations look at them with pity and revulsion. Or as a club worthy of memes like Harry Maguire, and Phil Jones.

  • @russellward4624
    @russellward4624 10 месяцев назад

    Its clear it was another way to bump the share price to make more money. They were never going to sell. Until Old Trafford literaly falls down and thry cant play games there will they sell.

  • @Invisible_clouds
    @Invisible_clouds 10 месяцев назад

    The Glazers are not broke but the club will not rise in value without investment and they have shown they will not put their own money into the club. If there is no money to invest in the Infrastructure of the club and the squad how will it rise. For the Club World Cup to increase the value of the club they need to be in it and on this path the club will struggle to get into the big competitions much less win them.

  • @plipogamez3173
    @plipogamez3173 10 месяцев назад

    Are there any precedents in law which ManU supporters could cite and use to bring legal action against the Glazers, in order to make them take the supporters' interests into consideration when making important decisions about how the club is governed? Can the supporters sue them for bringing the legacy of the club into disrepute?

  • @lyaddajonah9972
    @lyaddajonah9972 10 месяцев назад

    the only way those yanks will leave is if the club is radio-active money wise and everything is crumbling around them

  • @dandaman192
    @dandaman192 10 месяцев назад

    They will not sell said that from the start .

  • @ArchieFatcackie
    @ArchieFatcackie 10 месяцев назад

    Whatever people might think about Jordan he really nails it and says it as it is.
    He’s spot on here.

  • @chd1694
    @chd1694 10 месяцев назад

    Glazers are staying so the fans and players need to get on with it.

  • @Alloyd876
    @Alloyd876 10 месяцев назад +1

    You dont ooen public negotiations costing people millions of dollars and then just say sod all am locking shop.

  • @kevinduff3584
    @kevinduff3584 10 месяцев назад +1

    If we finish in the bottom of the league or even worse get relegated then it's going south big time!

  • @Boy10Dio
    @Boy10Dio 10 месяцев назад

    had a bunch of accountants for utd fans trying to tell me that a club can't be worth 10 billion.
    no skin off my back at the end of the day, welcome to the world mr accountants.

  • @baileycj354
    @baileycj354 10 месяцев назад

    Simon would be a good teacher

  • @1995abv
    @1995abv 10 месяцев назад

    The buyers determine worth not the sellers

  • @jimc8609
    @jimc8609 10 месяцев назад +6

    The American model is that you don’t make money when you buy a sports franchise, often not even when you own one. The money is made when you sell it. Glazers are following that path beautifully

    • @davemufcwhitehead2863
      @davemufcwhitehead2863 10 месяцев назад

      The money there holding out for is something that might have been possible if they put man uniteds own money into the club. The stadium, training ground, and correct best in class people in the job roles to help the club succeed. They have spent nothing on the stadium, training ground. Give there mates jobs there clearly not qualified to do. Haven't cleared the debt and made shocking decisions. The only thing they have done beautifully is shafted us the fans and run the club into the ground. There a disgrace.

  • @user-mm2bf7ln3h
    @user-mm2bf7ln3h 10 месяцев назад

    Picket or pocket either way they gonna have a shed load of cash from share holders!

  • @lammedus5503
    @lammedus5503 10 месяцев назад +1

    The man asking if the next world cup is on 2025 … who is this guy ? Why is he even on this football podcast ?

  • @NEWCASTLE.UNITED.
    @NEWCASTLE.UNITED. 10 месяцев назад

    Prob better selling now before saudi pro is the number 1 place to go then devaluing the prem league

  • @chd1694
    @chd1694 10 месяцев назад

    Very good comments on here. Unfortunately, sir alex and david gill are gone forever.
    At least ten hag won a trophy 🏆 with this motley crue.
    Should of kept and BACKED Mourinho.

  • @frogmanbrabs
    @frogmanbrabs 10 месяцев назад

    I wonder if relegation is the answer to getting rid of the Glazers. The way United have started this season it could be on the cards.

  • @damiexxi3163
    @damiexxi3163 10 месяцев назад

    It's easy to get the Glazers out...keep the Stadium/support empty on game day, put pressure on the whole club, if the fans come together they will have more power than the Glazers and if they don't sell I hope they are ready cuz Winter is Coming

  • @aduseibon94
    @aduseibon94 10 месяцев назад

    I blame the UTD fans. If they really want new owners, they have to let the glazers feel it in their pockets. They should boycott going to the stadium, stop buying club apparel, and the likes. In the next 10 years if the glazers are still in charge, trust me UTD will be battling relegation and if Pep is still at City, all records UTD hold right now will be broken. As simple as that.

  • @timwright4676
    @timwright4676 10 месяцев назад

    What does the price of cheese have to do with Man United sale?

  • @JelloShots-wg6tz
    @JelloShots-wg6tz 10 месяцев назад +10

    Long May the Glazers Reign! GGMU

    • @paul-ht7fq
      @paul-ht7fq 10 месяцев назад

      You seem slightly obsessed and a bit dim but you never know that might change when you grow up

  • @alexhamilton4368
    @alexhamilton4368 10 месяцев назад

    Glazers asking way to much for the club,and on top of that the training ground and the stadium needs sorting,so on top of what there asking it’s another 2 to 3 billion on top of it ! Nooooo Chance.

  • @peterookotai6965
    @peterookotai6965 10 месяцев назад

    7-10 Billion?? that's absurd.

  • @samsummers1812
    @samsummers1812 10 месяцев назад

    They never wanted to sell

  • @sallahudinmehuddin8046
    @sallahudinmehuddin8046 10 месяцев назад

    Kaveh solhekol said it the Premier league should never have allowed this takeover to happen. Nowhere, in any other country, would this be allowed to happen to their biggest football clubs.

    • @andrewhoughton2617
      @andrewhoughton2617 10 месяцев назад

      100% spot on

    • @huna1950
      @huna1950 10 месяцев назад

      Fergie begged Malcolm as Magnier was going to
      Embarrass him in court
      Just grow up clown

  • @brianharkin
    @brianharkin 10 месяцев назад +1

    Empty old Trafford until the Glazers leave

  • @ColonelSternlove
    @ColonelSternlove 10 месяцев назад +1

    Invade the pitch every game, get it stopped. Stop the team playing. It will be hurtful, but worth it in the long term.

    • @bg22757
      @bg22757 10 месяцев назад

      Well, go on then... don't ask someone else to do it for you. I suspect you won't though.

    • @ColonelSternlove
      @ColonelSternlove 10 месяцев назад

      @@bg22757 Not a United Fan - it’s a suggestion. Plus - the MU supporters trust are failing miserably. What would you do?

    • @bg22757
      @bg22757 10 месяцев назад

      @@ColonelSternlove it's naive to think anything the fans do, short of completely stopping going to games, will make any difference. So it doesn't matter what they do, the Glazers will leave when they want to. Sad but it's reality.