OH MY GOSH! The idea of Satan being redeemed is literally something the demons in my house growing up used to torment me with. They used it to confuse me and convince me I should befriend them. I can't believe there are books on that, that is so disturbing.
This was a very valuable discussion. Please continue to talk about what is happening in Christian circles, charsimatic and otherwise. We had a pastor on the staff of our church who held to the annihilationism, among other unbiblical views. He was let go from our church. We were shocked to hear of his views; he was very subtle and selective in sharing these doctrines of demons. This is a time for the church to be on the alert and to evaluate all teachings carefully.
I'd love to attend a conference with Ken Fish, but I went to his website and it seems the conferences are all outdated (I think)... (side note: I feel like a big problem with some Christian conferences is when you google them, they often don't get taken down after they are done, and often don't have years listed so it's hard to know which ones are still in the future).
**remnant Sorry to be that person, but I love the RR and GINAT peeps too much to not point it out. Thank you for the conversation, especially the insights on universalism. I have seen some close friends take that unfortunate path as well.
Great show. Interesting there is a convergence of the "Christian Nationalist" churches and the charismatic. I know that probably makes you cringe but these 2 groups recognize the evils of sin and willing to stand firm.
This was a great video…until it wasn’t. I was actually shocked to hear both Ken and Michael (I follow both) claim that any position other than the “traditional” view of hell (which is supposedly eternal conscious torment) is a “doctrine of demons”. Please point out anywhere in the Bible that says man is inherently immortal. It’s not there! Only God is (see Timothy). So, God would have to make a person immortal so that he could punish and torture him forever! If you had a Calvinist point of view to your theology, then God created a person to be tortured eternally. I don’t think that’s God’s character guys. That would make God out to a being that he would never allow us to be. Also, what about other points of view? Is amillennialism another demonic doctrine? That will take out whole denominations and Voddie Baucham too! You may want to do a little more research here…
OH MY GOSH! The idea of Satan being redeemed is literally something the demons in my house growing up used to torment me with. They used it to confuse me and convince me I should befriend them. I can't believe there are books on that, that is so disturbing.
This was a very valuable discussion. Please continue to talk about what is happening in Christian circles, charsimatic and otherwise. We had a pastor on the staff of our church who held to the annihilationism, among other unbiblical views. He was let go from our church. We were shocked to hear of his views; he was very subtle and selective in sharing these doctrines of demons. This is a time for the church to be on the alert and to evaluate all teachings carefully.
I'd love to attend a conference with Ken Fish, but I went to his website and it seems the conferences are all outdated (I think)... (side note: I feel like a big problem with some Christian conferences is when you google them, they often don't get taken down after they are done, and often don't have years listed so it's hard to know which ones are still in the future).
**remnant
Sorry to be that person, but I love the RR and GINAT peeps too much to not point it out.
Thank you for the conversation, especially the insights on universalism. I have seen some close friends take that unfortunate path as well.
Great show. Interesting there is a convergence of the "Christian Nationalist" churches and the charismatic. I know that probably makes you cringe but these 2 groups recognize the evils of sin and willing to stand firm.
This was a great video…until it wasn’t. I was actually shocked to hear both Ken and Michael (I follow both) claim that any position other than the “traditional” view of hell (which is supposedly eternal conscious torment) is a “doctrine of demons”. Please point out anywhere in the Bible that says man is inherently immortal. It’s not there! Only God is (see Timothy). So, God would have to make a person immortal so that he could punish and torture him forever! If you had a Calvinist point of view to your theology, then God created a person to be tortured eternally. I don’t think that’s God’s character guys. That would make God out to a being that he would never allow us to be. Also, what about other points of view? Is amillennialism another demonic doctrine? That will take out whole denominations and Voddie Baucham too! You may want to do a little more research here…
That isn't what they said.
@@DustyMayT Miller says so at the 1 hr mark. You can start at 57:27. I’ll email him to see if he can get a theologian on Remnant.