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The engineer was made to stand its ground without any support. It is a good all-rounder tower for any stage or any type of zombies. I would say, if sentries could see hiddens, it would be one of the best dps towers to pick
When supports are forced meta, that advantage is moot. You are always going to be bringing a support, and once you do engis inability to be buffed by them shows.
That's what I like about the engineer, you got a jack of all trades for just one slot which comes really handy in solo and duo Still I don't like that it looks nothing like a hardcore tower compared to mister ray of doom
@@israelmateo2050 But its to overpriced for what it can do, plus, and idc that her sentry cannot be stunned, if you want to counter stuns, just bring medic.
9:39 the thing about accels chargeup (assuming it's max) is that, if it's in the absolute worst case scenario (attacking glitches on a straight path) it will still be able to get them. and only attacking late into the range shouldn't matter much as the dps will shred the fast enemies, and by the time errors are spawning, you should have several max level accels which will kill them faster than they run.
It's kinda bad when you realize that if the units from the military base couldn't move at all, it'd be more cost efficient and deal more dps than the TURRET. I'd honestly love if this were a glitch. It isn't game-breaking like slowing down all enemies severely and doing 1200 damage PER TICK, but it still shows that the military base while usually D Tier, can occasionally be GODLY.
@@AkuLovesCats There was a glitch that if you had a military base and high amounts of lag the military base would be basically invincible. Thus dealing 1200 dmg per tick. If you had a god pc and somehow lag and still get high tps (maybe 40). Then you would get 1200 dps × 40/tps. 1200×40=48000 dps. I remember in a vid it soloed the fallen king in 2 seconds. Possibly 75k dps at its finest.
By the way, forgot to mention, accel's dps at max lvl with cta is NOT 443.7, its actually around 366.7, bc of the fact that Accel overheats a lot faster with commander's cta buff. Accel doesn't actually fully benefit from Commander, but it still benefits more than engineer
@@femurbreaker0o they’re right. It’s damage per second, not damage per burst window. Which means that for most of the CTA buff, it’s not performing at all, due to its overheat and recharge.
@@femurbreaker0 Previous comment explains almost everything. This isn't pre-reworked Accel, where the overcharge is based on time and not total damage dealt, where Accel can fully benefit from CTA. Since this is reworked Accel, it now overcharges based on damage dealt. The higher the dps, the faster it'll overcharge. The faster it'll overcharge, the more often Accel won't attack. The more often Accel won't attack, the lesser the potential dps he could've gotten. This applies with Commander's cta, it still buffs the Accel quite a lot, but only about 30% instead of the stated 55% (its still better than pre-reworked Accel's dps with cta and pursuit)
@@2fps_man The formula for firerate boosting is ((Original Firerate-Firerate Bug Increase) ÷ (1+Firerate Boost)) + Firerate Bug Increase, Or if you dont know how to use these formulas. firstly get the firerate boost. for example 38%, Now get the firerate and Divide it by 1,+firerate boost for example 26% firerate boost you divide the number by 1,26 or 1,38 just like i gave an example 1,38. The firerate boost is supplied in decimal form (Did this comment due to the way you said on how much firerate boost it gives thinking maybe you didnt know it) But yea it's around 30% firerate boost.
Solid ranking. The ranking was right, but the thing you got wrong is that Accel with CTA does only about 359. Cause, you have to factor into the DPS eq. that having a higher DPS will reach the 3,000 overcharge threshold faster. More DPS = more down time = diminishing returns
Overcharge doesn’t make a difference at all bc let’s say accelerator does 4 overcharges every wave, with the commander buff it can do 5 overcharges bc it’s fills up it’s overcharge much faster thus making it pump out more value and damage
Yk turret might be bad but don’t get me wrong, sometimes it helps a lot. It’s also used in most of the strategies. And in hardcore it’s pretty good for late game.
accel gets fully buffed by commander? doubt. accels overcharge is based just on how much damage is death and it not timed, so if you do more dps, the charge ends faster. this means, that with commander, accel's burst time gets shortened a considerable amount. if you run the numbers through the dps equation for accel with making the attack speed 1.55x faster to accomodate for commander (the dps equation is DPS is calculated as Overcharge ÷ (Charge-Up + Cooldown + [Overcharge/Damage x Tick])). this gives accel a dps of 360 with commander, only an ~20% buff imo this put accel pretty equal to ranger due to rangers other advantages like 40 range and unstunnability
It’s not 360. The dps with commander is somewhere around 390-410 because commander only affects the tick of the accel not the charge or cooldown or burst.
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I can see why you put turret in last place because of the mid cost efficiency but I think it makes a good sub dps if you have accel but not engi for example specifically for polluted and badlands where u get mad cash as it has the third highest DPS in the game. Basically in a game you wouldn’t place 10 pursuits over 6 engis+4 gold minis for example. but still W video from Corso and glad you’re back to normal upload schedule
Pretty sure he meant highest dps towers in game not by whether or not it was for a certain game leght like early mid ect. Though it is good it just doesen't compare to the others
Just saying, accelerator is only partially buffed by commander. Commander only buffs its firerate and not its overcharge, charge up, or cooldown. This gives it a dps of approximately 380 dps. Because the accelerator is only attacking for around 3.9 seconds out of 7.9 seconds(4 seconds for charge up and cool down), this more than halves its dps compared to when it is attacking
Correct. Though i dont think he reads comments that much, if we want him to know about the mistake he did on calculations we'll may need to find another way i think... also did you include rof bug?
hidden detection doesn’t really matter for dps towers, because you only have 2 hidden enemies and your early game towers which nearly every single one besides paintballer and demo have hd and can handle hiddens but other then that good vid
Something Corso Didn't point out, Especially weird because he mentions it in the Next towers Section is the fact That Pursuit Has Lead Detection, Meaning it too can detect Lead Balloons. And doing the math it actually gets it lead detection for Cheaper than ranger! Ranger Gets Its Lead Detection at Level 3 for a total of $14025!!!!! While Pursuit only costs $5850!! Thats less than HALF of rangers cost for lead detection, making it a good choice against the early game leads and the lead bosses.
@@meiter4515 Ranger on his way to obliterate the error with 10hp with the distance of 1000 miles doing physics, air resistance, gravity, speed calculations on his mind to accurately demolish the error
I think ranger will always be the best tower due to how insane it’s range helps it a lot and that’s why it’s so strong it can always do the same dps but it hits the entire map plus it’s has insane versatility and it becomes deadly with commander
@@NameMeAL it still is the best tower it been the best tower since the buff it plus it’s the only lower on the list that always been used in every event due to how much versatility it got Ranger or outlaw will still be the best option
@@kennedy9773 it's dps is beaten by a lot of towers, it os very expensive, it doesn't even see hiddens, it is only used in hardcore because of metal balloons, and for other gamemodes just use mortar, it is very good, has great splash and cluster bombs
I would see the Golden Minigunner as the 'constant-fire' alternative to the Accelerator. While Accelerator does deal extreme amounts of damage, it still pauses at times whenever it overheats. The Golden Minigunner is notably weaker, but has no placement limits and it constantly fires.
Ykniw what man i bet you aint gon see this at all but like i genuinley enjoy yo videos and i hope you keep makin more of them since they make me incredibly happy for no reason at all anyway thats all i wanted to say
I agree with the rankings, but I feel number 2 and 3 could go either way. also a few corrections: 1. gold mini lv 3 is actually the lv with the best cost to dps value, doing 5.2 dps per 1000$ 2. pursuit lv 1 is actually the lv with the best cost to dps value, doing 7.95 dps per 1000$. For lv 2 to have a higher dps than lv 1, the rockets would have to hit at least 2 enemies. I also want to mention that lv 1 gives you lead penetration and because it flies, it can also attack flying enemy. The only difference with ranger is that it has crap targeting which is why I said number 2 and 3 could go either way depending how much you value the pursuit's 400 extra dps vs ranger's good targeting.
technically, accel can down the molten boss (without charging OR cooldown) in somewhere 20 seconds but with charging and cooldown, we can say something like more than 30 seconds, great overall, but one problem is the damage overload, if we still had the seconds charge, it could have done great dps.
I disagree with the accelerator being first, mainly because of the overcharge mechanic. The accelerator can only do a set 3600 damage before charging up, so if you buff it with commander, the accelerator is basically still going to do the same amount of damage, just in a shorter period of time.
My rating: overall it was EXTREMLY good bro, everything was right (almost), but i have 3 things i wanna say, 1st, the maximum of an tower you can play won't matter that much, because the higher the maximum is the more you need to spend on it to get it to maximum, so the turret and the engi should be ranked atleast 1 higher,2nd thing,the ranger can do very good damage to enemies with high health, but it struggles ALOT while dealing with breakers,if you spend too much on rangers and too ,ow ampunts into stuff that can handle breakers or crowds, you are basically dead,3rd, the accelorator is really expensive too, and if you play fallen or smth with alot of stuns and u dont have medic, you will do MUCH less damage because after the accelorators are free'd from being stunned they need a little bit of time to load their "laser canon" or idk what that is, done. Engi is sometimes overrated and sometimes underrated
but, usually mortar hits hidden enemy's because of it's splash damage while sniper is useful on wave 13 and 15, the mortar is good for wave 24, with enemies that aren't hidden.
ranger is like accel for begginer or middle leveled players to use and beat bosses.ranger is one of my fav towers with minigunner.both bc is useful.ranger for main damage mini for extra help to kill hiddens.
Very good video! Definitly helped me, to choose best towers and make better ecnomic decisions in BTS, Now i will save money for better and higher efficiency tower instead of weaker and less efficient towers, Very good video btw!
Tds is a very good game i just have one thing i wanna say.. i hate the hardcore grind ik they're powerful towers but for people like me who don't have alot of time to grind hardcore because of school it's a bit sad even now i still don't have accel
I think the best dps is 1accelerator combine with commander coa it will overheat faster and does insane dps that can kill major bosses 2 golden mini you can spam him 3 ranger with those high dmg can kill major bosses a lot fast 4 engineer the explosion of sentries does a lot of dmg but it will ran out and it cannot get buffed by commander and dj
Assuming if we ignore the cooldown of accelerator and we only care about the dmg it does it would have have 462 dps and with commander buff it would have 1028 dps which is kinda cool considering in maxxed lvl we almost do not see the accel use cooldown anymore since the overcharge is 3000 its mostly why it has lower dps than the other towers but still have the greatest dmg
Everyone forgot shotgunner AKA (by me) highest damage at early defense and militant AKA (by also me) a good tower that can change minigunner at early defense
7:38 Let me correct your mistake @CORSO, the pursuit can detect leads on lvl 3 with the machine gun, so pursuit can still be better than ranger in that aspect, because he can deal damage both crowd and single target
I think you forgot that pursuit can also kill leads and flying enemy’s so ranger is not the only viable way to kill lead balloons. Edit uh thanks for the like corso I guess
I think that they should bring back an old feature, on the old tower sentry there was a chance that a teddy bear would spawn on it, giving it hidden detection, or they can buff the engineers damage from 50 to 100 , so commander and dj would actually help it, and it would be better for hiddens and baloons
Probs to this guy for doing all this math for a roblox game just to tell us what tower is good in certaint situations when he could be an accountant or smt
actually lvl 3 golden mini is the most cost efficient because max as dps of $225 for 1 dps while lvl 3 has a dps of $195 for 1 dps 7:39 pursuit can do the same thing the ranger's range doesnt matter on small maps and you don't even need that much of the map to maximize its potential
ranger with dj booth can have full map range if you place it on top of the vulprint bouilding in cyber city wich is insaen for speedy bosses and so much more💀
Noting that the golden mini has a 100% strength boost, it should have way more than 103.45 dps, and with max commander chain, it would do 20 damage per 0.06 seconds, so that is roughly 320 dps rather than 103.45.
My opinion 6. Turret reason: it’s ridiculously expensive 5. Pursuit reason: It is great for crowd control but it have no hidden detention and bad targeting 4. Engineer reason: it’s good on all stages but it’s bad because sentries no hidden detection and no buff 3. Gold mini reason: it’s great for late game and no place limit but the problem is it’s price 2. Ranger reason: it’s used in hardcore and it does massive DPS and it does not have hidden detection 1. Accel reason: even tho it needs to charge its laser is op and it literally turns enemies into ashes
Just wanted to state that accelerator does not have 443 dps, the damage cap still exists and so does the 4 second cooldown. Regularly it takes 10 seconds (6 of firing+4 of cooldown) for the 3000 damage, but with commander its like 3.5-4~ seconds of firing and STILL 4 seconds of cooldown, which is like 380 dps or something along the lines of that.
9:10 keep in mind that with the merc base, you can also get a 20% dqmage buff so I'd say that for people with it, that it is a really good tower and a better option than engineer
Current accel cant get fully buff, it only get 60% boost and not 100% boost Even current engineer without support have higher dps that accel with commander and mercenary
Ranger does not deserve second. Although he has high damage and high range he is really only good for shredding bigger bosses which towers like accel, pursuit, and engineer do almost just as good at. Almost forgot to mention the fact ranger has no hidden detection on top of that. Ranger just isn't worth it for his high cost, really only comes in handy in hardcore sometimes.
@@nooseloverr yeah but for his high cost, low dps, placement limit, cliff placement, and no hidden detection... ranger isn't great and is rarely used by higher level players.
Accelerator charge can be slightly helped by Sledger if you have it by its freeze ability works even better with commander max sledger and commander gives it a insane attack speed.
I don't think that accel is fully buffed by commander cuz it will overheat faster and lose a lot of time reloading. That means that the dose of a time he actually shooting will decrease providing less reliable and decreasing dps
That's correct Except for the fact that it does NOT decrease dps. I've done calculations and if you see commander makes towers shoot faster which means over time they do more damage and that means the accel will do the 3k damage to overheat Faster. If you calculate dps (check wiki for formula) It'll be 360 dps Which means the commander does not fully buff it. Also if you do calculations you may say this is wrong but this may be Due to you using wrong firerate boost formula, Instead of decreasing by 55% you use this formula: Original Firerate ÷ (1+Firerate Boost), OR ((Original Firerate-Firerate Bug Increase) ÷ (1+Firerate Boost)) + Firerate Bug Increase With firerate bug. If you didn't understand the formula if you have bing you can ask the ai, i think chatgpt also works, but i also can tell how, you simply divide a number by 1,(Firerate-Boost) for example a 40% boost you decrease firerate by 1,40, The firerate boost is in decimal form.for exempla 10% boost is 0.1 more to divide. That's a mistake he did and that will bring misinformation... Also even if you did use the old firerate boost formula it actually would still have more dps than without commander (443 dps)
to give you an idea on how op accel is, me and my friends beat polluted FIRST TRY by spamming 32 accels and chaining. of course there were other towers but accel mainly did the dps
You really forgot something. Accelerstor CAN'T be fully buffed by commander because charge up and overcharge can't be buffed by commander. The only thing which is buffed by commander is his cool down to 3k dmg, without commander it is 6 seconds and with commander it is 4.5 seconds.
old pursuit is so good it litteraly has hidden detection at max level but getting a hidden detection at max level is too bad cuz we cant afford with big kind of money
I agree only problem is the turret even though it costs a lot is pretty reliable when you have it maxed out early game tho it is not so great because you can’t afford the upgrades you need to make it great
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Where is swarmer it can reach 250 dps without commander
Also accel reaches less than 380 dps cause recharge cool and dmg cap
The engineer was made to stand its ground without any support. It is a good all-rounder tower for any stage or any type of zombies. I would say, if sentries could see hiddens, it would be one of the best dps towers to pick
When supports are forced meta, that advantage is moot. You are always going to be bringing a support, and once you do engis inability to be buffed by them shows.
That's what I like about the engineer, you got a jack of all trades for just one slot which comes really handy in solo and duo
Still I don't like that it looks nothing like a hardcore tower compared to mister ray of doom
@@israelmateo2050 But its to overpriced for what it can do, plus, and idc that her sentry cannot be stunned, if you want to counter stuns, just bring medic.
@@brendanliew9598 I agree, I believe medic is also very forced into the meta, and needs a rework
I respect you're opinion but i disagree but its still cool to love a tower and have you're own opinions for it
9:39 the thing about accels chargeup (assuming it's max) is that, if it's in the absolute worst case scenario (attacking glitches on a straight path) it will still be able to get them. and only attacking late into the range shouldn't matter much as the dps will shred the fast enemies, and by the time errors are spawning, you should have several max level accels which will kill them faster than they run.
Unless the acels target a high hp boss and let enemies past lol
@@cyberlord645 True but it's usually not a issue especially when it comes to errors
@DracozNest I need your targeting then because if I play I always have that problem it's why I used to run ranger engi before engi got a debuff lol
@@cyberlord645 Nice, when I solo fallen I also get some max rangers then I get the accels but a max Dj can help target the errors
@@DracozNest Bro ive been playing tds for over 5 years and i didnt know a max dj solos errors
It's kinda bad when you realize that if the units from the military base couldn't move at all, it'd be more cost efficient and deal more dps than the TURRET. I'd honestly love if this were a glitch. It isn't game-breaking like slowing down all enemies severely and doing 1200 damage PER TICK, but it still shows that the military base while usually D Tier, can occasionally be GODLY.
This is an actual glitch that was covered in an elite video
i dont understand
@@AkuLovesCats There was a glitch that if you had a military base and high amounts of lag the military base would be basically invincible. Thus dealing 1200 dmg per tick. If you had a god pc and somehow lag and still get high tps (maybe 40). Then you would get 1200 dps × 40/tps. 1200×40=48000 dps. I remember in a vid it soloed the fallen king in 2 seconds. Possibly 75k dps at its finest.
then they;d be stuck at the back of the track and never get in range
good point tho.
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By the way, forgot to mention, accel's dps at max lvl with cta is NOT 443.7, its actually around 366.7, bc of the fact that Accel overheats a lot faster with commander's cta buff. Accel doesn't actually fully benefit from Commander, but it still benefits more than engineer
it is fully affected by commander just because it makes it reload quicker doesn’t make it any less affected by commander
@@femurbreaker0o they’re right. It’s damage per second, not damage per burst window. Which means that for most of the CTA buff, it’s not performing at all, due to its overheat and recharge.
@@femurbreaker0 Previous comment explains almost everything. This isn't pre-reworked Accel, where the overcharge is based on time and not total damage dealt, where Accel can fully benefit from CTA.
Since this is reworked Accel, it now overcharges based on damage dealt. The higher the dps, the faster it'll overcharge. The faster it'll overcharge, the more often Accel won't attack. The more often Accel won't attack, the lesser the potential dps he could've gotten. This applies with Commander's cta, it still buffs the Accel quite a lot, but only about 30% instead of the stated 55% (its still better than pre-reworked Accel's dps with cta and pursuit)
@@2fps_man The formula for firerate boosting is ((Original Firerate-Firerate Bug Increase) ÷ (1+Firerate Boost)) + Firerate Bug Increase, Or if you dont know how to use these formulas. firstly get the firerate boost. for example 38%, Now get the firerate and Divide it by 1,+firerate boost for example 26% firerate boost you divide the number by 1,26 or 1,38 just like i gave an example 1,38. The firerate boost is supplied in decimal form (Did this comment due to the way you said on how much firerate boost it gives thinking maybe you didnt know it) But yea it's around 30% firerate boost.
does this mean engi with commander still has more dps then accel with commander
btw corso, the pursuit's bullets can damage lead enemies, so it can deal with lead balloons as well as the ranger
thank you for actually telling everyone about the pursuit bcs it was so underrated before
0:33 Turret
1:41 Golden Minigunner
2:55 Engineer
4:45 Pursuit
6:44 Ranger
8:29 Accelerator
Thx i guess?
Thank you I think so😂😂😂
Gold mini was my first gold skin well it's not the best dps tower but it has to be one of my favorite tower
You are one lucky duck because I wanted golden mini gunner the most out of all the goldens and it was my 5th golden skin
Solid ranking. The ranking was right, but the thing you got wrong is that Accel with CTA does only about 359. Cause, you have to factor into the DPS eq. that having a higher DPS will reach the 3,000 overcharge threshold faster.
More DPS = more down time = diminishing returns
Overcharge doesn’t make a difference at all bc let’s say accelerator does 4 overcharges every wave, with the commander buff it can do 5 overcharges bc it’s fills up it’s overcharge much faster thus making it pump out more value and damage
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Yk turret might be bad but don’t get me wrong, sometimes it helps a lot. It’s also used in most of the strategies. And in hardcore it’s pretty good for late game.
Now max ranger does 1000+ DMG per shot 😂😂
so what it's 7 second reload
@@thisisnotachannel15with cta it's actually not bad
Id recommend not getting a lot of max level rangers though, its not really worth the slight ddps boost for more than 30k cash
That one 10 hp zombie about to receive 10k damage from my ten max level rangers
@@thisisnotachannel15 but it still does 170 dps
I come from the future to say rsnger now deals 1k damege p shoot
7:00 “296 dps” i wish 😔
You forgot green scout but i will get past it
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This shit isnt funny anymore
Nah he forgot to add the, Golden Freezer
accel gets fully buffed by commander? doubt.
accels overcharge is based just on how much damage is death and it not timed, so if you do more dps, the charge ends faster.
this means, that with commander, accel's burst time gets shortened a considerable amount.
if you run the numbers through the dps equation for accel with making the attack speed 1.55x faster to accomodate for commander (the dps equation is DPS is calculated as Overcharge ÷ (Charge-Up + Cooldown + [Overcharge/Damage x Tick])).
this gives accel a dps of 360 with commander, only an ~20% buff
imo this put accel pretty equal to ranger due to rangers other advantages like 40 range and unstunnability
nice
It’s not 360. The dps with commander is somewhere around 390-410 because commander only affects the tick of the accel not the charge or cooldown or burst.
Gfreezer is a great dps tower that has a freeze ability that matches the sledger overall S+ tower
it does like few million dps, definitely rank 0
omg omg this tower can oneshot the void reaver1!!111!!!1!1!!1!!1!!!!11!1
@@The_Annihilator123 actually, it 2 shots the void reaver because it shoots only every second.
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hopefully it does not get removed but dang the power scale
Amazing video corso! my favourite tower is golden mini and the second is golden soldier
4:49 THATS MY BOY, LOOK AT HIM GO, THIRD PLACE (I like the pursuit way too much)
Blud likes pursuit too much like hes kid💀
@@carlomiguelpascual9301 man I made this comment a year ago, it was a joke
Even with finals you still manage to pump out amazing content. Can we all give this man a round of applause for having to do all this math to calculate these dps stuff will studying for finals. 👏
Ye
I can see why you put turret in last place because of the mid cost efficiency but I think it makes a good sub dps if you have accel but not engi for example specifically for polluted and badlands where u get mad cash as it has the third highest DPS in the game. Basically in a game you wouldn’t place 10 pursuits over 6 engis+4 gold minis for example. but still W video from Corso and glad you’re back to normal upload schedule
Gmini better sub dps
@@Berlinh2 Not everyone has access to the 100 wins loot box tower
Too expensive for a sub dps
@@Berlinh2 while gmini is a golden tower that costs 50.000 coins (if you get in in boxes), turret is free.
@@gdfusca6667 he isnt rating this of which is easier to obtain for its dps its just dps for the people who have every tower
got confused when i saw engineer at number 4 but then i scrolled down to see this video is 1 year ago
I was expecting this video
turret came back with vengeance, now being the new best dps tower in the whole entire game
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I think Militant deserve an honorable mention, it has pretty good dps for player who just started the game.
I agree honestly
pretty sure he meant dps towers for people with all towers so yknow, militant is redundant
Pretty sure he meant highest dps towers in game not by whether or not it was for a certain game leght like early mid ect. Though it is good it just doesen't compare to the others
@@Lemon------------Dude-929 I honestly disagree. Militant can be good but it just isn’t as good enough as the ace pilot, which cost less in the shop.
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I will never understand why engineer can see hiddens but the sentries cannot
Probabbly bc engi's sentries only shoot the enemy tht has heat and hidden doesnt have it so its very obvious
You should make a early game tower tier list
Just saying, accelerator is only partially buffed by commander. Commander only buffs its firerate and not its overcharge, charge up, or cooldown. This gives it a dps of approximately 380 dps. Because the accelerator is only attacking for around 3.9 seconds out of 7.9 seconds(4 seconds for charge up and cool down), this more than halves its dps compared to when it is attacking
Correct. Though i dont think he reads comments that much, if we want him to know about the mistake he did on calculations we'll may need to find another way i think... also did you include rof bug?
@@joaofrancisco-zq4tf they fixed that A LONG time ago
@@joaofrancisco-zq4tf the rof bug
@@N-thinghappeninghere rof bug still exists just a little 0.008
@@bingkoiE hm ok
Please do another one of these as alot of them got reworked, and necromancer got added
hidden detection doesn’t really matter for dps towers, because you only have 2 hidden enemies and your early game towers which nearly every single one besides paintballer and demo have hd and can handle hiddens but other then that good vid
it kinda does in hardcore though
@@TheLethal hardcore is a completely different book, plus pyro tends to be the go to for souls anyways
@@ChickenKing_Ice soul bosses
True! Everyone keeps thinking hiddens are so major in late game while in reality they're just filler (yes, including hardcore).
@@TheLethal My turret existing (or ace pilot):
Something Corso Didn't point out, Especially weird because he mentions it in the Next towers Section is the fact That Pursuit Has Lead Detection, Meaning it too can detect Lead Balloons. And doing the math it actually gets it lead detection for Cheaper than ranger! Ranger Gets Its Lead Detection at Level 3 for a total of $14025!!!!! While Pursuit only costs $5850!! Thats less than HALF of rangers cost for lead detection, making it a good choice against the early game leads and the lead bosses.
Pursuit on his way to attack the fallen titan with 6k hp letting the lead boss go with a free path even tho its on first 🗿
@@meiter4515 Ranger on his way to obliterate the error with 10hp with the distance of 1000 miles doing physics, air resistance, gravity, speed calculations on his mind to accurately demolish the error
Accelerator on his way to lock on a fallen king while full hp circuits are getting past it
I think ranger will always be the best tower due to how insane it’s range helps it a lot and that’s why it’s so strong it can always do the same dps but it hits the entire map plus it’s has insane versatility and it becomes deadly with commander
Nah, it will never be the best tower
accel is 10x better cope
@@kalzoik shut up I was sharing my on opinion
@@NameMeAL it still is the best tower it been the best tower since the buff it plus it’s the only lower on the list that always been used in every event due to how much versatility it got Ranger or outlaw will still be the best option
@@kennedy9773 it's dps is beaten by a lot of towers, it os very expensive, it doesn't even see hiddens, it is only used in hardcore because of metal balloons, and for other gamemodes just use mortar, it is very good, has great splash and cluster bombs
I would see the Golden Minigunner as the 'constant-fire' alternative to the Accelerator. While Accelerator does deal extreme amounts of damage, it still pauses at times whenever it overheats. The Golden Minigunner is notably weaker, but has no placement limits and it constantly fires.
Corso you realise that pursuit can also detect flying and has lead penetration right?
Ranger still can handle the job more easier
Ykniw what man i bet you aint gon see this at all but like i genuinley enjoy yo videos and i hope you keep makin more of them since they make me incredibly happy for no reason at all anyway thats all i wanted to say
if only i was a dps tower
g freezer rel
You are tho
IM A SUPPORT and im better than dps tower
You would have 486dps if you were
Bro i already wach your videos all the days and they are so good bro that you inspired me to play keep the wonderful work ❤❤
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I respect this guy for using frost ranger instead of the anime one, best frost skin, and looks swag
I agree with the rankings, but I feel number 2 and 3 could go either way.
also a few corrections:
1. gold mini lv 3 is actually the lv with the best cost to dps value, doing 5.2 dps per 1000$
2. pursuit lv 1 is actually the lv with the best cost to dps value, doing 7.95 dps per 1000$. For lv 2 to have a higher dps than lv 1, the rockets would have to hit at least 2 enemies. I also want to mention that lv 1 gives you lead penetration and because it flies, it can also attack flying enemy. The only difference with ranger is that it has crap targeting which is why I said number 2 and 3 could go either way depending how much you value the pursuit's 400 extra dps vs ranger's good targeting.
technically, accel can down the molten boss (without charging OR cooldown) in somewhere 20 seconds
but with charging and cooldown, we can say something like more than 30 seconds, great overall, but one problem is the damage overload, if we still had the seconds charge, it could have done great dps.
oh no I don't understand this, grilled cheese obama sandwich.
My heart cant take this damage
I disagree with the accelerator being first, mainly because of the overcharge mechanic. The accelerator can only do a set 3600 damage before charging up, so if you buff it with commander, the accelerator is basically still going to do the same amount of damage, just in a shorter period of time.
thus more dps
@@MaanBluefr
the charge isnt even that bad at max lvl
@@MaanBlue but the charge time stays the same
This was a year ago man things change
with the new ranger update, it’s insane. pls make a pt 2, since a lot of towers have been either reworked or buffed.
R.I.P engineer 400 DPS 🪦
My rating: overall it was EXTREMLY good bro, everything was right (almost), but i have 3 things i wanna say, 1st, the maximum of an tower you can play won't matter that much, because the higher the maximum is the more you need to spend on it to get it to maximum, so the turret and the engi should be ranked atleast 1 higher,2nd thing,the ranger can do very good damage to enemies with high health, but it struggles ALOT while dealing with breakers,if you spend too much on rangers and too ,ow ampunts into stuff that can handle breakers or crowds, you are basically dead,3rd, the accelorator is really expensive too, and if you play fallen or smth with alot of stuns and u dont have medic, you will do MUCH less damage because after the accelorators are free'd from being stunned they need a little bit of time to load their "laser canon" or idk what that is, done.
Engi is sometimes overrated and sometimes underrated
What about Mortar? It's pretty darn good. It also has slightly better hidden detection than Ranger because it has Splash DMG
It has worse single target dmg how are you goona take out fallen king *with 4 mortars?☠☠☠*
@@goldenk405 noone is gonna use it to kill a boss just for crowd control
@@Berlinh2 That's why it shouldn't be on the list
@@HallowStealth yeah but if we count it's splash dmg it could enter on the list if is just a single dps list than yeah hes not getting in
@@goldenk405 Thats exactly why you have 4 other tower slots
Damn im glad you gave fantastic review to ranger . Its kinda good but if it had hd it could have been beast of an tower
Sniper is the only Cliff tower with hidden detection
but, usually mortar hits hidden enemy's because of it's splash damage while sniper is useful on wave 13 and 15, the mortar is good for wave 24, with enemies that aren't hidden.
Ace pilot mains explaining why your statement is false and why every single tower has hidden detection:
@@Sivves well, that is true, but I am talking about having hidden detection for the whole wave
honestly if they made turret a bit cheap and increase placement by 1 or 2 then it would be an really good dps tower
They shouldn't, it is very easy to get an very good.
@@laisksjjsjs566what
ranger is like accel for begginer or middle leveled players to use and beat bosses.ranger is one of my fav towers with minigunner.both bc is useful.ranger for main damage mini for extra help to kill hiddens.
One of the new updates made it cost more but it does about 1000 dmg
Fun fact that you missed:
Turret also gains lead penetration at level 2 so it makes sorta like a walmart accel
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Turret probably existed before accel was even created, so technically the accel copied the turret
Very good video! Definitly helped me, to choose best towers and make better ecnomic decisions in BTS, Now i will save money for better and higher efficiency tower instead of weaker and less efficient towers, Very good video btw!
Tds is a very good game i just have one thing i wanna say.. i hate the hardcore grind ik they're powerful towers but for people like me who don't have alot of time to grind hardcore because of school it's a bit sad even now i still don't have accel
I think the best dps is
1accelerator combine with commander coa it will overheat faster and does insane dps that can kill major bosses
2 golden mini you can spam him
3 ranger with those high dmg can kill major bosses a lot fast
4 engineer the explosion of sentries does a lot of dmg but it will ran out and it cannot get buffed by commander and dj
The best gold mini dps is level 3 after the buff and its jacked
Fun fact: The pursuit can also kill lead balloons
I’m kinda surprised cause I expected pursuit is gonna rank low because of the targeting issue and no hidden detection
Assuming if we ignore the cooldown of accelerator and we only care about the dmg it does it would have have 462 dps and with commander buff it would have 1028 dps which is kinda cool considering in maxxed lvl we almost do not see the accel use cooldown anymore since the overcharge is 3000 its mostly why it has lower dps than the other towers but still have the greatest dmg
Everyone forgot shotgunner AKA (by me) highest damage at early defense and militant AKA (by also me) a good tower that can change minigunner at early defense
But they don’t do good late game dps which all the towers on this list do
7:38 Let me correct your mistake @CORSO, the pursuit can detect leads on lvl 3 with the machine gun, so pursuit can still be better than ranger in that aspect, because he can deal damage both crowd and single target
lvl1*
But it targetting still horrible so no
@@darkblades9206 I said pursuit "can still" be better, I am not affirming it
I think you forgot that pursuit can also kill leads and flying enemy’s so ranger is not the only viable way to kill lead balloons. Edit uh thanks for the like corso I guess
To people who say mortar didn't came in the list your wrong because hes a crowd control tower he only has 4 placement limit
I think that they should bring back an old feature, on the old tower sentry there was a chance that a teddy bear would spawn on it, giving it hidden detection, or they can buff the engineers damage from 50 to 100 , so commander and dj would actually help it, and it would be better for hiddens and baloons
Probs to this guy for doing all this math for a roblox game just to tell us what tower is good in certaint situations when he could be an accountant or smt
I would say pursuit kinda sucks because it is very unreliable because it lets the very speedy things by while focusing on a boss
actually lvl 3 golden mini is the most cost efficient because max as dps of $225 for 1 dps while lvl 3 has a dps of $195 for 1 dps
7:39 pursuit can do the same thing
the ranger's range doesnt matter on small maps and you don't even need that much of the map to maximize its potential
As bad as I want to say Pursuit is better, it still can't target crap
ranger with dj booth can have full map range if you place it on top of the vulprint bouilding in cyber city wich is insaen for speedy bosses and so much more💀
ngl the Ace pilot is absolutely op, If u can use it correctly u can solo fallen into wave 32 only using farm+ ace
(one of the best early-mid, also good for bosses bc of the high burst dmg) and aoe from missiles for hordes
If Im correct, Turret's whole idea that its stun proof, and I believe it used to be stun proof before the new rebalance updates
Noting that the golden mini has a 100% strength boost, it should have way more than 103.45 dps, and with max commander chain, it would do 20 damage per 0.06 seconds, so that is roughly 320 dps rather than 103.45.
It only do 14 damage bozo
Plus the buff is already there when you equipped the golden perk
My opinion
6. Turret reason: it’s ridiculously expensive
5. Pursuit reason: It is great for crowd control but it have no hidden detention and bad targeting
4. Engineer reason: it’s good on all stages but it’s bad because sentries no hidden detection and no buff
3. Gold mini reason: it’s great for late game and no place limit but the problem is it’s price
2. Ranger reason: it’s used in hardcore and it does massive DPS and it does not have hidden detection
1. Accel reason: even tho it needs to charge its laser is op and it literally turns enemies into ashes
My top
1.accelerator
2.engineer
3.reworked gold mini
4.pursuit
5.turret
6.reworked ranger
Gmini buff go crazy doe
Just wanted to state that accelerator does not have 443 dps, the damage cap still exists and so does the 4 second cooldown. Regularly it takes 10 seconds (6 of firing+4 of cooldown) for the 3000 damage, but with commander its like 3.5-4~ seconds of firing and STILL 4 seconds of cooldown, which is like 380 dps or something along the lines of that.
still better than engineer bc it can see hiddens and more placement limit
@@nooseloverrengi does more dps then accel for a cheaper cost
only problem with engi is its placement limit
@@shelly7086 hidden detection is the only problem
@@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137just use like warden or smth to counter hiddens lmao
You need to make an updated version! Golden Minigunner, Ranger, and Engineer have been changed a lot since this video came out
9:10 keep in mind that with the merc base, you can also get a 20% dqmage buff so I'd say that for people with it, that it is a really good tower and a better option than engineer
This vid was 10 months ago
Current accel cant get fully buff, it only get 60% boost and not 100% boost
Even current engineer without support have higher dps that accel with commander and mercenary
maybe you can try to make every tower in TDS tier list CORSO?
I feel so good after aving for ranger and buying it rather than mini
Ranger does not deserve second. Although he has high damage and high range he is really only good for shredding bigger bosses which towers like accel, pursuit, and engineer do almost just as good at. Almost forgot to mention the fact ranger has no hidden detection on top of that. Ranger just isn't worth it for his high cost, really only comes in handy in hardcore sometimes.
yes he does. he can see the whole map, so he can attack twice as long
@@nooseloverr yeah but for his high cost, low dps, placement limit, cliff placement, and no hidden detection... ranger isn't great and is rarely used by higher level players.
@@SmellyGamerChair forgot about no hidden detection, my bad
I swear to god smart gold scout is just ‘’YOU DIDNT HAVE TO TO CUT ME OFF’’🙏🏽
Why no one talk about that nuclear monster at first?
I beat pw2 with turret and g mini because i was lazy to get accel (i got it at lvl 170 💀)
Accelerator charge can be slightly helped by Sledger if you have it by its freeze ability works even better with commander max sledger and commander gives it a insane attack speed.
I love how a tower where ive seen someone whos level 23 have it is better than a tower where you have to grind to level 100
The Accelerator is an Absolute BEAST
Ranger getting splash damage back and damage buff tomorrow. Guess ranger will be op as hell now.
Nobody can replace the ogs, ranger, accelerator and golden minigunner
Breh you forgot pursuit
It released way before accel
We NEED an update to this list after the accel, ranger and mini rework
I agree
I don't think that accel is fully buffed by commander cuz it will overheat faster and lose a lot of time reloading. That means that the dose of a time he actually shooting will decrease providing less reliable and decreasing dps
That’s completely wrong
Bro if he overheat he will attack again
So he will attack more
That's correct Except for the fact that it does NOT decrease dps. I've done calculations and if you see commander makes towers shoot faster which means over time they do more damage and that means the accel will do the 3k damage to overheat Faster. If you calculate dps (check wiki for formula) It'll be 360 dps Which means the commander does not fully buff it. Also if you do calculations you may say this is wrong but this may be Due to you using wrong firerate boost formula, Instead of decreasing by 55% you use this formula: Original Firerate ÷ (1+Firerate Boost), OR ((Original Firerate-Firerate Bug Increase) ÷ (1+Firerate Boost)) + Firerate Bug Increase With firerate bug. If you didn't understand the formula if you have bing you can ask the ai, i think chatgpt also works, but i also can tell how, you simply divide a number by 1,(Firerate-Boost) for example a 40% boost you decrease firerate by 1,40, The firerate boost is in decimal form.for exempla 10% boost is 0.1 more to divide. That's a mistake he did and that will bring misinformation... Also even if you did use the old firerate boost formula it actually would still have more dps than without commander (443 dps)
@@Bacon546 He meant overheating quicker resulting in a less effective boost from commander.
to give you an idea on how op accel is, me and my friends beat polluted FIRST TRY by spamming 32 accels and chaining. of course there were other towers but accel mainly did the dps
You really forgot something.
Accelerstor CAN'T be fully buffed by commander because charge up and overcharge can't be buffed by commander. The only thing which is buffed by commander is his cool down to 3k dmg, without commander it is 6 seconds and with commander it is 4.5 seconds.
Hmmm, might go aceel + engi without Commander then if I just don't feel like COAing
I mean that's obvious since he does no damage during those stages, he's still easily the best dps
@@tpcito52 Though accel would still get dps buffs with COA, and commander
Why no swarmer :( isn't it a DPS tower too tho
200-256 DPS with the stacking bug
Anyways nice video
old pursuit is so good it litteraly has hidden detection at max level but getting a hidden detection at max level is too bad cuz we cant afford with big kind of money
I agree only problem is the turret even though it costs a lot is pretty reliable when you have it maxed out early game tho it is not so great because you can’t afford the upgrades you need to make it great
Yes
thanks this should help a-lot