Another thing to mention is that the ranger, having a lot of damage and a lot of cooldown, the damage and firerate improvements are more effective on him, incredibly increasing the tower's DPS.
firerate is exactly the same on ranger as any other tower, however damage may be slightly better on ranger cuz it rounds down which favours higher numbers
@@aljon5947 That's not how it works. Increasing either firerate or damage by 50% has the exact same effect. Let's say we got a tower doing 100 damage every 3 seconds. We can either increase damage to 150 or improve the firerate to 2 seconds (2/3rd cuz firerate stat is 3/2nd) in both cases, you end up dealing 300 damage every 6 seconds. ...I don't see how you could possibly not know about this cuz this is pretty basic math to me. Anyway, damage values get rounded down, so higher damage values benefit more from damage increases because less of it is "wasted" by rounding down
fact : this video is uploaded before the pursuit rework since they said pursuit rework is coming soon so expect outdated rankings in about a week or so (pursuit rework still didnt drop) (Alright, I edited it for all the nerds in the replies) Edit : pursuit rework released!!
I'd say Accel and Pursuit should be moved down to A - Pursuit's targetting is just too dogshit and unreliable, also extremely mid DPS for the price and doesn't even have anything to back up that horrible cost efficiency other than stun immunity - Accelerator is extremely vulnerable to stuns, making it way worse than other towers in modes with high amounts of stun such as Polluted Wasteland II, Hardcore or Hidden Wave
@@awildscrubthey did not just buff op towers mini, ranger, crook, mili base, freezer, hunter, trapper, toxic gunner, frost blaster, and I forgot I think there's 1-3 more.
@@awildscrubNo they didn't just buff endgame towers paintballer(nerfed again), freezer, hunter, crook, mili base, mini, ranger, toxic gunner, frost blaster, and etc but I think there's like 1-3 more.
another disadvantage the gatling gun has is due to it being such a high maintenance tower, it makes focusing on other towers like eco and support much harder but that could just be fixed with bringing other dps towers or playing multiplayer to cover for your downtime. too bad that is basically nonexistent since gatling gun is crazy op.
No actually,@@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822. They actually made it less severe then it used to. There are only a few troublemakers (engineer, Ace Pilot, Gatling gun and etc.), but outside of them, its fine.
I never thought I'd say this, but Accelerator needs a buff. 2,800 gems for something that's at pursuit and turret tier worth of damage, is not justified at all. I'm surprised you still ranked it above the turret and pursuit, i feel like it's now the worst of the bunch.
Regular Minigunner is extremely underated as while it is slightly worse than golden minigunner. golden minigunner is already an amazing tower so even a small downgrade it’s still deserving of an A tier
@@Soymiamiyteloconfirmo bro who tf needs lead detection and it has it at level 3 anyway and accel is also able to be bypassed by a fast enemy but also if theres a boss like at final waves
Another thing about Accelerator is that it locks on to any of the enemy’s, which allows other enemies to slip by Say for example it locks on into the tank or a slow boss and allows fallens to go through with no problem
15:04 wrong, actually, enemy hitboxes are extended by a lot, so that can be countered by lifting your camera just a bit, like a stud. this is not a complain, just a notice. also love your videos
Btw, the normal minigunner has a placement limit of 26-27 if i'm right and overall if you're soloing a mode and needs a second dps use g mini, if g mini is your main dps, change it for normal because you can get alot more dps with normal mini.
If you are referring to placing other towers in solo leaving you with around 27-26 tower slots for minigunner, I would like to know what towers you are using
Crowd Control doesn't mean what you think it means btw, that would be AoE. Crowd Control refers to applying debuffs to the enemy's movements and actions, such as stunning, slowing or knocking enemies back.
as someone who's recently gotten engineer ive found that i still use accelerator since it's level 3 just does so much damage and i feel like its very good against bosses before i can afford the more potent engineer upgrades. it probably needs a buff but ive found it useful still
Gatling Gun can actually bounce on surfaces, which means if the enemies are too low/high and if you can shoot at an angle where the bullets bounce off the cliff/ground, it will hit that enemy
Honestly, I'd put Turret over Accelerator due to its reliability and immunity to debuffs while being fully affected by buffs. Also, move Accelerator and Pursuit down to A tier. Other than that, YOU COOKED 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
At the end of the day, it's about your play style. If you love to micromanage, use the gatling gun or golden minigunner. If you go AFK, use the turret. If you like macro managing, use the engineer or the accelerator.
Those are kind of mixed since they require a perfect game-plan to maximize usage of their units, like skipping waves at the perfect time, Unlike DPS towers who only require the average mid-late game requirements, like DPS-checks or Detection checks.
another thing i think worth mentioning is turrets larger size on maps where space is hard to get its a pain to deal with although its range helps with that
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the problem with gattling gun is that people use it instead of a second dps like golden minigunner, for example instead of mainly placing down golden minigunner and upgrading gattling when needed, people would just upgrade gattling and do nothing else. I always lose when someone does that and it sucks.
Fun fact: Gatling gun gets buffed very well, so it's dps goes even more crazy. On another note, all the 3 top dps towers are stun immune, so medic is not as necessary (you can micro com if stunned). That brings accelerator even more down, just because of how much it suffers from stuns (and gmini to a lesser extend at max). Also why is brawler dealing as much dps as an accelerator and it has 100% uptime on slow bosses (example void reaver). The current meta + accelerator just not getting full support from buffs kinda makes it the 2nd worst dps tower overall (3rd worst in quad). How have the mighty fallen.
Um actually Engineer technically doesn't immune, because the sentries can only handle stun 1 time, so if it got 2nd stun before activating it's shield again, it will be gone☝🤓
idk if you were remembering this or not about accel getting stunned, but every time he does he has to recharge again, and sometimes it becomes even worse
@@AccelenesiaMapperAndTDSthat really isnt an issue considering how fast the sentries gain back its shield and they usually only die if a boss spams stun moves like in polluted wastelands
Cleaning stuns is literally the sole purpose of medic, you will likely need it to unstun other towers as well like commanders so you can keep COA chaining. Harder gamemode bosses are more stun-heavy as well, making my previous point about COA chaining even more provable. Also if you say commander isnt as important as other support towers, im sorry, you're just wrong.
Ranger was literally my main dps when i was doing hc with my friend, the fact taht i can just put him down there and he can just start doing burst chips to the boss as i was the one doing the early game makes it too good.in my book
Ranger is indeed that on dps but that's because it reloads taking 7 seconds. So it's gonna give it a total of 7,350 per 7 seconds which is actually good and especially as you say, it's super reliable for all types of enemies because of flying, hidden, and lead detection and an explosion. And given the fact that it's 1050 per shot, it's not worth it when you have accelerator or turrets which are way more reliable
I feel like other rankings exaggerate how accel is outclassed but I think this does a great job showing it's still 100% viable but also not the best on its own
the fact that they cost gems makes them much easier to grind for rather than the 35k gatling gun or 75k for golden minigunner, so its reasonable for the gold minigun and gatling gun to be stronger since they're much harder to get
@@CoolingSpace true but I just feel like they should buff accel and engi since the only way to obtain them is by grinding hardcore or spending robux while Gatling and gd mini is bought through coins and much easier to grind
hot take, i'd put golden minigunner in low S+ tier, its amazing for waves 9 and above for fallen, amazing CE, spammable with a secretly beneficial placement limit, and has great coverage from the massive amount that is FIFTEEN GOLDEN MINIGUNNERS, i use it all the time and usually get about 8 max, its also great for being a buffer zone between having dps to farm for even better dps options like engineer and gatling gunner. Its not held back by the fact of any mechanics that prevent buffing, which gives it alot more viability, because you're gonna want those extra placement slots for supports and sub-dps options.
honestly you're not giving Turret enough credit, it's way better than pursuit and accel and i'd rank it high A tier or even low S tier - as turret has no gimmick unlike most other towers on the list, Turret benefits the most out of buffs and can get up to +900 DPS with max commander, dj (red track) and merc base. that's like 3k DPS with 3 maxed turrets. (gatling gun still surpasses with buffs tho) - it CANNOT be debuffed by bosses or enemies, although it still can get stunned (unless you're using the humanoid skin) - the low placement limit is also an advantage in quad. it only takes up 3 tower placement spots out of 20, meaning that you can have another DPS tower like g mini or engineer (assuming you have enough money lol) not related to turret, but why isn't merc base and brawler on the list? they can do really high DPS
Merc base has insane burst DPS with riot guards but after that it sends out units too slow expensive for it to be a great DPS tower. Even with grenade launchers, you'd have to make sure they do not get overwhelmed by enemies by placing your main or sub DPS (assuming you have the insanity to use Merc base as main DPS). Better used for its 20% buff Brawler is good yes but you have to micro alot. Even then, it's terrible for fighting major bosses and is unreliable for main DPS
Ive used sniper in wrecked hardcore solo, it was an amazing yet slow early game that is very versatile due to its range and attributes for a starter tower
mortar could be one of the dps tower since it has crutial splash dmg and it's the best counter for lead balloon and I even use it to beat molten fallen and other gamemodes either
fun fact: gatling gun does not have infinite range when in fps mode, it only has a insane range, you can test it by placing it on 1 side of the lay by map and trying to shoot a enemy on the other side of the map
9:42 it can be fully buffed, just differently. The overheat is faster, meaning he will do more damage every overheat cooldown meaning it will still be faster and will do more damage than a single accelerator By what I mean he can overheat faster but he can end the cooldown between overheats faster if you get what I mean
5:15 This is untrue. The Golden Minigunner has an insane value of 8.22dps:$1,000 at level 1, which is insane, and it's why I think it's such a great tower. The insane cost efficiency at lvl1 means that gmini is such an insane midgame carry if you spam them. The fact it's such a good midgame tower while also being a pretty viable endgame tower gives it such good versatility, as it doubles as a midgame and a lategame tower in your loadout. It can be a bit awkward to spam them when the range is kinda meh, but I still personally think it's really worth it.
Man I feel like none of the current dps towers is really enough to solo fallen after the rework. Having one solid late game dps and early/mid game spam, was enough to solo fallen before. But now I feel like that you need like 2 or 3 main dps in the same load out in order to actually solo fallen, farm is also not good enough and I have started to prefer cowboy for this reason, because cowboy is both dps and farm at the same time, which allows me to get extra damage while generating cash.
So a really good build would be: farm for eco, ranger for (sub) DPS and flying, engineer for DPS, commander for firerate boost and cowboy for early game (offensive eco)
people are still overestimating regular minigunner, you shouldve mentioned that since minigunner strength comes from spamming it, at some point you'll run out of space where the minigunner can reach a good amount of the track, that means bosses will stay in its range only for a short amount of time.
IMO they should make the accelator’s overcharge not scale on how much dmg he’s doing?but how many seconds he’s firing.so instead of 3600 overcharge,it could be 10-12s of firing.
I bet the next skin they will add is the fortress mercenary base. It looks like a tf2 map and these are the units: Rifleman: sniper using secondary Grenadier: demoman Riot shielder: heavy using a random part from a bot replica of him Field medic: medic
Accelerator could be buffed up a bit imo, or should just get a complete overhaul in its gameplay. Generally the largest complaint presented is the Overcharge/Cooldown mechanics, which are fine on paper but make the tower horribly inconsistent in damage dealing (something ive experienced far too often), and its gem cost is a bit much for a tower that is inconsistent in its purpose of just shelling enemies. A probable fix (I'm not an expert at balancing stuff, only warship designs), would be to rework its overcharge/cooldown mechanic and just, generally increase its DPS. Overcharge works as normal aside from being faster, while its cooldown initiates at the end of a wave instead of when it goes above the threshold. (An alternative would be the tower 'cooling down' by still damaging enemies but generally doing less DPS, and then going back to its full potential once the guns cooled enough to take more of a punch.) Again im not a game balancer but this seems like a decent way to correct its DPS/feasibility in a match.
this is kinda bad timing since the pursuit is guarenteed to get revamped next update (the halloween event). YES IT WAS CONFIRMED IN BELOWS DISCORD ANNOUNCEMENT
Could you pleaaaaaasssse make a video about strats to beat special gamemodes and show ushow to use them (pls start with pizza party using pepperoni strat
Accelerator is still a pretty great DPS tower. It's just there are towers way better than it. (Merc, gattling, engineer, ranger, etc) bring back my boy!!!
here my dps tier list highest to lowest Gatling-ngl this is op Engi-if u dont want to macro turret-why so expensive? accel-lazer go brr Both minis-i am heavi wepons gaiy ranger-i give range by giving info about enemies. im better at supporting u than a helicopter can Mili base-Thomas the radiating energy machine that destroys worlds tank warden- just 15 guys with a stick and a flat shield Pursuit- my name means chasing or hunting a target and i cant see a black blinking guy with 10 to 20 health
I wouldn't consider the engineer the jack of all trades, I would treat her as a Main Battle Tower (MBT). As for the Jack of all trades, I would say the Crook Bosses. They are the engineers but much more "old fashioned".Using pistol bullets and their bodies to detect hidden, lead, and flying enemies
Id consider ranger, gatling, and pursuit sub dps Ranger does not do damage fast enough to be considered a main source of damage, pursuits whack af with its targeting, and gatling requires being active and its more a consumable than a tower because its terrible on auto
Ik that in manual you can pretty much hit hiddens and flying, but does Gatling have Lead detection? If im shooting at something and it doesn't die I dont want to use it
Since it sounds like Accel got nerfed HARD, should anything like brawler or etc be bought beforehand? Saving gems for accel, I'm nowhere NEAR a golden crate, and I'm starting to hear accel is falling off?
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yea it should
Went from hero to zero real quick
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they kept nerfing accel ever since it came out
'clif towers can counter fast enemies'
hmm i wonder where i herd that from🤔🤔🤔
Corso actually listened to comander
Corso commander when???
bro listened to the voice of the past
@@mm123-i9m He already has a crook boss skin he can't have two
@@ProjectTriniitybro that was a joke 💀💀💀
nah best dps tower is corso crook boss
You damn right!
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Nope it’s actually merc base, it can get much more dps
Gatling is basically XR-500’s dad
Nah son tbh, but just better in every way
@@RelishedXD holy shit myusernameisdifferent???
More like the younger brother that the parents (players) praise more
Nah they are best friend’s
Nah they are brothers :D
Another thing to mention is that the ranger, having a lot of damage and a lot of cooldown, the damage and firerate improvements are more effective on him, incredibly increasing the tower's DPS.
Not really, it would still get affected by buffs just like any other tower would (except for towers like Engi or Accelerator)
firerate is exactly the same on ranger as any other tower, however damage may be slightly better on ranger cuz it rounds down which favours higher numbers
he meant that big numbers gets multiplied more. 200damage per hit+50% is 300. so having buffs improves ranger dps more than most towers i guess?
@@aljon5947 That's not how it works. Increasing either firerate or damage by 50% has the exact same effect.
Let's say we got a tower doing 100 damage every 3 seconds. We can either increase damage to 150 or improve the firerate to 2 seconds (2/3rd cuz firerate stat is 3/2nd)
in both cases, you end up dealing 300 damage every 6 seconds.
...I don't see how you could possibly not know about this cuz this is pretty basic math to me.
Anyway, damage values get rounded down, so higher damage values benefit more from damage increases because less of it is "wasted" by rounding down
+50% fire rate or +50% damage both increase dps by 50% you would have to get to technical stuff for anything to show
fact : this video is uploaded before the pursuit rework since they said pursuit rework is coming soon
so expect outdated rankings in about a week or so (pursuit rework still didnt drop)
(Alright, I edited it for all the nerds in the replies)
Edit : pursuit rework released!!
i mean, no kidding sherlock
obviously, he cant predict future
"fact:" 🤓
outdated not wrong grr.....
Bro again? 😭
you forgot to mention that a tower called "pursuit" cant really pursuit hidden enemies at all
Same with ranger lol
@@mm123-i9m ranger used to have hidden detect what happened?
@@lilshotgun9027outlaw:
Ranger literally has hidden detection @@mm123-i9m
@@Supernukeeeerrok but what actually happened
I'd say Accel and Pursuit should be moved down to A
- Pursuit's targetting is just too dogshit and unreliable, also extremely mid DPS for the price and doesn't even have anything to back up that horrible cost efficiency other than stun immunity
- Accelerator is extremely vulnerable to stuns, making it way worse than other towers in modes with high amounts of stun such as Polluted Wasteland II, Hardcore or Hidden Wave
tobk is rem moment
turret is way easier to get and is better accel needs a big buff
@@Man_fard772i think turret just needs a slight nerf
@@j_ustanoob no, accel is being outclassed by almost eveything now
@@j_ustanoob nah turret isn't that good there's no reason to nerf it
accel really fell off
More like accel is now one of the many good dps options, and maybe it deserves it for cnetralizing the game around itself for so long.
Accel didn't fall off, the devs just forgot to balance towers, instead they buffed already op towers to make them even more op than the best DPS.
@@awildscrubthey did not just buff op towers mini, ranger, crook, mili base, freezer, hunter, trapper, toxic gunner, frost blaster, and I forgot I think there's 1-3 more.
@@awildscrubNo they didn't just buff endgame towers paintballer(nerfed again), freezer, hunter, crook, mili base, mini, ranger, toxic gunner, frost blaster, and etc but I think there's like 1-3 more.
@@Senselessdogruffruffengi and ace pilot and adding new towers
(wait toxic gunner got buff)
another disadvantage the gatling gun has is due to it being such a high maintenance tower, it makes focusing on other towers like eco and support much harder but that could just be fixed with bringing other dps towers or playing multiplayer to cover for your downtime. too bad that is basically nonexistent since gatling gun is crazy op.
I remember when accel used to be insane, and u basically needed it for everything..😢
It was boring when Accel was the only one.
Now we have more options that are way better, Accel should have a minor buff.
@@ImNotFunny541accel just got replace by engi, it just a cycle of meta.
@@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822 I don’t really like meta DPS towers. Gets boring doing the same strategy over and over.
@@ImNotFunny541 yeah but that just what tds have been doing lately.
No actually,@@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822.
They actually made it less severe then it used to. There are only a few troublemakers (engineer, Ace Pilot, Gatling gun and etc.), but outside of them, its fine.
Now, it's time for ranking Early-game towers!
I never thought I'd say this, but Accelerator needs a buff. 2,800 gems for something that's at pursuit and turret tier worth of damage, is not justified at all. I'm surprised you still ranked it above the turret and pursuit, i feel like it's now the worst of the bunch.
U mean 2500gem
It cost half as much as turret for half the dps making it more viable earlier and also has better damage value
it's got something to do with the overheat (or overcharge? forgot) mechanic that messes with both dmg and fire rate buffs, so uhhh yea
all it needs is a lower cooldown + charge up but it probably wont happn
Ermm getting accel is easier than getting pursuit (imo)
Regular Minigunner is extremely underated as while it is slightly worse than golden minigunner. golden minigunner is already an amazing tower so even a small downgrade it’s still deserving of an A tier
minigunner is goated af it can kill every mode
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-Crappy range
-No Lead Detection
-Hard to spam in any map with long layouts
-Can get easily bypassed by a enough fast enemy
Minigunner is fucking bad
@@Soymiamiyteloconfirmo bro who tf needs lead detection and it has it at level 3 anyway and accel is also able to be bypassed by a fast enemy but also if theres a boss like at final waves
Pursuit enjoyers be waiting forever for a skin
Me waiting for a pursuit skin: 👶🧒🧑🧓💀☠️⚰️
Yeah gonna have to wait until after the rework
A pursuit skin completely breaks the tower currently
It's getting a whole rework
I didn't realize Pursuit enjoyers even existed (irrelevant ahh tower)
They exist?
Another thing about Accelerator is that it locks on to any of the enemy’s, which allows other enemies to slip by
Say for example it locks on into the tank or a slow boss and allows fallens to go through with no problem
accel's fell off is just insane, wonder why there's nobody talking about it. Just like in the bible, all good things shall come to an end.
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Your honor, if my client is lying, how come his pants are not on fire
Dang oh um ok
15:04 wrong, actually, enemy hitboxes are extended by a lot, so that can be countered by lifting your camera just a bit, like a stud. this is not a complain, just a notice. also love your videos
Gatling gun:
hold my beer
quite litterally
Its kinda bad for dps
The unsupervised upgrade cost:
@@kuandtds how 😭
@@kuandtdshmmm 100 damage per 0.05 seconds, yeah that’s “bad” dps
Dude… where’s GREEN paintballer…
No... WHERE IS GREEN SCOUT??!!
@@COOKIEHEHEHwomp womp🤧
AAAAAAAA... NO GREEN DEMOMAN!!!!!!!!!!
I actually got it in a premium crate 💀
@@am6055-e7zLUCKY I WANTED IT AND GOT BLAZING BRAWLER INSTEAD
Btw, the normal minigunner has a placement limit of 26-27 if i'm right and overall if you're soloing a mode and needs a second dps use g mini, if g mini is your main dps, change it for normal because you can get alot more dps with normal mini.
If you are referring to placing other towers in solo leaving you with around 27-26 tower slots for minigunner, I would like to know what towers you are using
Crowd Control doesn't mean what you think it means btw, that would be AoE. Crowd Control refers to applying debuffs to the enemy's movements and actions, such as stunning, slowing or knocking enemies back.
Finally Someone Who Understands The Difference
This is just wrong.
AoE is Area of Effect which applies to anything with AoE, whether it be a buff or damage
@@KratosEditszexactly, AOE just stands for Area Of Effect, aka attacks/debuffs over a wide area. it doesnt specify that it is an attack or a debuff
Or... neutralizing a crowd of enemies??
if you kill the crowd, you control it so it ain’t only debuffs
this video is so interesting i never realized i could used the stuff taught by my teacher to calculate dps of a unit in a roblox game
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as someone who's recently gotten engineer ive found that i still use accelerator since it's level 3 just does so much damage and i feel like its very good against bosses before i can afford the more potent engineer upgrades. it probably needs a buff but ive found it useful still
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Gatling Gun can actually bounce on surfaces, which means if the enemies are too low/high and if you can shoot at an angle where the bullets bounce off the cliff/ground, it will hit that enemy
Honestly, I'd put Turret over Accelerator due to its reliability and immunity to debuffs while being fully affected by buffs. Also, move Accelerator and Pursuit down to A tier. Other than that, YOU COOKED 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Accelerator is peak bro fym
@@yanaguache6732 brudda this was before the update
@@adamchea6321 damn what update i have not played in long
@@yanaguache6732 accel just got buffed this week
At the end of the day, it's about your play style. If you love to micromanage, use the gatling gun or golden minigunner. If you go AFK, use the turret. If you like macro managing, use the engineer or the accelerator.
Mercenary base? Crook boss normal/golden crook boss
Those are kind of mixed since they require a perfect game-plan to maximize usage of their units, like skipping waves at the perfect time, Unlike DPS towers who only require the average mid-late game requirements, like DPS-checks or Detection checks.
@@Kazam100 yes i know but if you stack 100+ unit This is going to be a huge damage
sub dps
@@CheeseFragleLagle Not quite
@@KAMILKK. alright give me an explanation
another thing i think worth mentioning is turrets larger size on maps where space is hard to get its a pain to deal with although its range helps with that
15:58 look how they massacred my boy 😭
"Thats a patient with zero treatment"
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@@ramielcarlocainglet9888 why would i remember his name
@@nub_yt it was a funni comment
the problem with gattling gun is that people use it instead of a second dps like golden minigunner, for example instead of mainly placing down golden minigunner and upgrading gattling when needed, people would just upgrade gattling and do nothing else. I always lose when someone does that and it sucks.
Fun fact:
Gatling gun gets buffed very well, so it's dps goes even more crazy.
On another note, all the 3 top dps towers are stun immune, so medic is not as necessary (you can micro com if stunned). That brings accelerator even more down, just because of how much it suffers from stuns (and gmini to a lesser extend at max).
Also why is brawler dealing as much dps as an accelerator and it has 100% uptime on slow bosses (example void reaver).
The current meta + accelerator just not getting full support from buffs kinda makes it the 2nd worst dps tower overall (3rd worst in quad). How have the mighty fallen.
I argee but i do think that is great balance of the devs
Um actually Engineer technically doesn't immune, because the sentries can only handle stun 1 time, so if it got 2nd stun before activating it's shield again, it will be gone☝🤓
idk if you were remembering this or not about accel getting stunned, but every time he does he has to recharge again, and sometimes it becomes even worse
@@AccelenesiaMapperAndTDSthat really isnt an issue considering how fast the sentries gain back its shield and they usually only die if a boss spams stun moves like in polluted wastelands
Cleaning stuns is literally the sole purpose of medic, you will likely need it to unstun other towers as well like commanders so you can keep COA chaining. Harder gamemode bosses are more stun-heavy as well, making my previous point about COA chaining even more provable. Also if you say commander isnt as important as other support towers, im sorry, you're just wrong.
Ranger was literally my main dps when i was doing hc with my friend, the fact taht i can just put him down there and he can just start doing burst chips to the boss as i was the one doing the early game makes it too good.in my book
Where scout at?
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In my mouth
Ranger is indeed that on dps but that's because it reloads taking 7 seconds. So it's gonna give it a total of 7,350 per 7 seconds which is actually good and especially as you say, it's super reliable for all types of enemies because of flying, hidden, and lead detection and an explosion. And given the fact that it's 1050 per shot, it's not worth it when you have accelerator or turrets which are way more reliable
Accel needs a buff, my guy fell off
He's been meta for years, give another tower the spotlight
Accel is pretty balanced for his price (in gem) compared to other dps towers
W vid with some true and supriseing results! keep it up Corso!
gyatling gun is so op ❤🔥❤🔥
I feel like other rankings exaggerate how accel is outclassed but I think this does a great job showing it's still 100% viable but also not the best on its own
TDS should buff engi and accel bcs they cost gems
Engi is fine now, accel needs a buff
Nah Engi is already good, only accel needs it
the fact that they cost gems makes them much easier to grind for rather than the 35k gatling gun or 75k for golden minigunner, so its reasonable for the gold minigun and gatling gun to be stronger since they're much harder to get
@@CoolingSpace true but I just feel like they should buff accel and engi since the only way to obtain them is by grinding hardcore or spending robux while Gatling and gd mini is bought through coins and much easier to grind
I only spent like 5 days grinding for Gatling while I spent 2 months trying to get engi cause I always get terrible teammates who don’t know the Strat
hot take, i'd put golden minigunner in low S+ tier, its amazing for waves 9 and above for fallen, amazing CE, spammable with a secretly beneficial placement limit, and has great coverage from the massive amount that is FIFTEEN GOLDEN MINIGUNNERS, i use it all the time and usually get about 8 max, its also great for being a buffer zone between having dps to farm for even better dps options like engineer and gatling gunner. Its not held back by the fact of any mechanics that prevent buffing, which gives it alot more viability, because you're gonna want those extra placement slots for supports and sub-dps options.
honestly you're not giving Turret enough credit, it's way better than pursuit and accel and i'd rank it high A tier or even low S tier
- as turret has no gimmick unlike most other towers on the list, Turret benefits the most out of buffs and can get up to +900 DPS with max commander, dj (red track) and merc base. that's like 3k DPS with 3 maxed turrets. (gatling gun still surpasses with buffs tho)
- it CANNOT be debuffed by bosses or enemies, although it still can get stunned (unless you're using the humanoid skin)
- the low placement limit is also an advantage in quad. it only takes up 3 tower placement spots out of 20, meaning that you can have another DPS tower like g mini or engineer (assuming you have enough money lol)
not related to turret, but why isn't merc base and brawler on the list? they can do really high DPS
How does the humanoid skin for turret not get stunned
@@voidreaver2855he mean debuff from bosses will effect the xr500 skin, and every skins can get stunned
@@magmaxton oh
Merc base has insane burst DPS with riot guards but after that it sends out units too slow expensive for it to be a great DPS tower. Even with grenade launchers, you'd have to make sure they do not get overwhelmed by enemies by placing your main or sub DPS (assuming you have the insanity to use Merc base as main DPS). Better used for its 20% buff
Brawler is good yes but you have to micro alot. Even then, it's terrible for fighting major bosses and is unreliable for main DPS
11:13 Correction - They get HD at level 5.
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Hell nah
no this again
Ive used sniper in wrecked hardcore solo, it was an amazing yet slow early game that is very versatile due to its range and attributes for a starter tower
Yoo nice to see that u poasted
This is really W tier list thanks corso
Paintballer oh ma gawd😂😂😂
mortar could be one of the dps tower since it has
crutial splash dmg and it's the best counter for lead balloon and I even use it to beat molten fallen and other gamemodes either
3:52 erm actually its level 4 because g minigunner dosen't have a level 5 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
top quality blue head video. keep up the good work!
Nah the best dps towers is the below tower
Dps: ı n f ı n ı t e
Cost : $0
Cost to max: $-500000000000000
fun fact, since demo man can pierce infinite enemies, he has infinite dps in theory
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tbh the counter on this tier list is prob ranger because if your gonna put ranger s+ then you would have to put golden mini higher.
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3:31 if you had g cowboy and used farm early you could get g minigunner much more early (on a solo match)
I think it only works on solo cuz others wouldn't let u def alone
@@vitrieu8866 mb I forget to type “solo”
ive been waiting for this
You should do a tier list for the best early games towers
fun fact: gatling gun does not have infinite range when in fps mode, it only has a insane range, you can test it by placing it on 1 side of the lay by map and trying to shoot a enemy on the other side of the map
9:42 it can be fully buffed, just differently. The overheat is faster, meaning he will do more damage every overheat cooldown meaning it will still be faster and will do more damage than a single accelerator
By what I mean he can overheat faster but he can end the cooldown between overheats faster if you get what I mean
Could you do similar videos like this? Maybe ranking all towers or the best team in tds? I’m trying to get better
5:15 This is untrue. The Golden Minigunner has an insane value of 8.22dps:$1,000 at level 1, which is insane, and it's why I think it's such a great tower.
The insane cost efficiency at lvl1 means that gmini is such an insane midgame carry if you spam them. The fact it's such a good midgame tower while also being a pretty viable endgame tower gives it such good versatility, as it doubles as a midgame and a lategame tower in your loadout. It can be a bit awkward to spam them when the range is kinda meh, but I still personally think it's really worth it.
We need an uptade version of this after Gatling Brutal nerf and pursuit rework
I tought warden was a dps tower too, its seriously good if you place it somewhere where enemies will pass twice.
Man I feel like none of the current dps towers is really enough to solo fallen after the rework. Having one solid late game dps and early/mid game spam, was enough to solo fallen before.
But now I feel like that you need like 2 or 3 main dps in the same load out in order to actually solo fallen, farm is also not good enough and I have started to prefer cowboy for this reason, because cowboy is both dps and farm at the same time, which allows me to get extra damage while generating cash.
So a really good build would be: farm for eco, ranger for (sub) DPS and flying, engineer for DPS, commander for firerate boost and cowboy for early game (offensive eco)
people are still overestimating regular minigunner, you shouldve mentioned that since minigunner strength comes from spamming it, at some point you'll run out of space where the minigunner can reach a good amount of the track, that means bosses will stay in its range only for a short amount of time.
4:58 cant wait to see this become more op once the rework comes out
The pursuit also has the advantage of being immune to stuns, as it is a flying tower
IMO they should make the accelator’s overcharge not scale on how much dmg he’s doing?but how many seconds he’s firing.so instead of 3600 overcharge,it could be 10-12s of firing.
We need a new golden tower tierlist
Minigunner is an absolute legend no wonder i call his g version a glorious king💀💀
Love you're videos bro!!
I bet the next skin they will add is the fortress mercenary base. It looks like a tf2 map and these are the units:
Rifleman: sniper using secondary
Grenadier: demoman
Riot shielder: heavy using a random part from a bot replica of him
Field medic: medic
Accelerator could be buffed up a bit imo, or should just get a complete overhaul in its gameplay.
Generally the largest complaint presented is the Overcharge/Cooldown mechanics, which are fine on paper but make the tower horribly inconsistent in damage dealing (something ive experienced far too often), and its gem cost is a bit much for a tower that is inconsistent in its purpose of just shelling enemies.
A probable fix (I'm not an expert at balancing stuff, only warship designs), would be to rework its overcharge/cooldown mechanic and just, generally increase its DPS. Overcharge works as normal aside from being faster, while its cooldown initiates at the end of a wave instead of when it goes above the threshold. (An alternative would be the tower 'cooling down' by still damaging enemies but generally doing less DPS, and then going back to its full potential once the guns cooled enough to take more of a punch.)
Again im not a game balancer but this seems like a decent way to correct its DPS/feasibility in a match.
this is kinda bad timing since the pursuit is guarenteed to get revamped next update (the halloween event). YES IT WAS CONFIRMED IN BELOWS DISCORD ANNOUNCEMENT
Could you pleaaaaaasssse make a video about strats to beat special gamemodes and show ushow to use them (pls start with pizza party using pepperoni strat
Accelerator is still a pretty great DPS tower. It's just there are towers way better than it. (Merc, gattling, engineer, ranger, etc)
bring back my boy!!!
Adding doom music to gatling gun would be a fact, and perfect.💀💀
i have doom music on right now.💀💀
here my dps tier list highest to lowest
Gatling-ngl this is op
Engi-if u dont want to macro
turret-why so expensive?
accel-lazer go brr
Both minis-i am heavi wepons gaiy
ranger-i give range by giving info about enemies. im better at supporting u than a helicopter can
Mili base-Thomas the radiating energy machine that destroys worlds tank
warden- just 15 guys with a stick and a flat shield
Pursuit- my name means chasing or hunting a target and i cant see a black blinking guy with 10 to 20 health
Nah, normal mini is nowhere as good as pursuit
why tf is military base here
the fact that the gatling gun looks like an m2 browning and you can manually control it means it's sold on me
if Crook boss has a buff once again it's gonna be stronger than minigunner but max placement might change.
its a good day when corso uploads
I wouldn't consider the engineer the jack of all trades, I would treat her as a Main Battle Tower (MBT). As for the Jack of all trades, I would say the Crook Bosses. They are the engineers but much more "old fashioned".Using pistol bullets and their bodies to detect hidden, lead, and flying enemies
11:18 don't sentries get HD on lvl 5+? I assume this is a mistake or did they make some changes.
Accel need a buff tbh i think whats really hold it back is its range and stun(which cancel the whole charging)
I mean its is still a solid tower and probably used most bc engineer is way to expensive
@@javedahmedqureshi76The thing why accel is used the most is that like 60% of TDS community don't have Engi
@@javedahmedqureshi76 well youre not wrong tho
Can u rank worst to best melee towers? Good video corso🎉
Id consider ranger, gatling, and pursuit sub dps
Ranger does not do damage fast enough to be considered a main source of damage, pursuits whack af with its targeting, and gatling requires being active and its more a consumable than a tower because its terrible on auto
imagine gatling gun as the only dps tower, only other towers are ones with trash values (in raw dps) are allowed to support it
Nice clip
Can u do about other tower or how to build ur loadout?
I am a month late. but reworked soldier is a pretty good tower too with flying detection and hidden detection its pretty good for a sub dps
i think that accelerator should go to s+ because if you have all the supports it can do a really impressive amount of dps
turret did better than it in my molten mode speedrun. the stupid lock on got it killed by bolts lol
Man i would love to play with you. You seem like a fun guy
accelerator falloff was never expected. we must give more love to crook boss and turret
Ik that in manual you can pretty much hit hiddens and flying, but does Gatling have Lead detection? If im shooting at something and it doesn't die I dont want to use it
Since it sounds like Accel got nerfed HARD, should anything like brawler or etc be bought beforehand? Saving gems for accel, I'm nowhere NEAR a golden crate, and I'm starting to hear accel is falling off?
Hmm, corso engi would be better, like plushies as turrets
Also the new update for the Gatling gun RUINED THE DPS AT ALL