My planned recipe video for this week didn't turn out, so this is the next closest thing: a review of a kitchen tool. I'll have another recipe video next week.
I was thinking that this was a funny video but I love how you admit that you can be sucked in by social media ads as well. I haven't watched the video yet, I stopped to comment but I will watch it now. 🔪🔪
"Looks like it should be on an executive desk" crazy scenario ran through my head at this comment....LOL - subordinate comes in to talk with boss - hey what's that cool thing on your desk? I use it to keep my knives sharp. Why do you need knives? You never know.... ;-)
I bought the tumbler because whetstones are challenging to get a consistent angle. It might not be the finest edge but it is much easier to get good edge for using your knives for food than any other simple sharpening system. Great honest review
Some knife sharpening purists may look down on it, but it's a decent tool for folks who may not be ready to dive into the whetstone and strop sharpening.
I like the concept because everything is referenced to the flat surface. I think it needs more grits and how do you do things like cleavers and pairing knives.
Retail meatcutter here for almost 35 years. I started 1974 when I was 18 years old. And I only bought and used Forschner knives from Germany, and I still have some to this day and I have my favorite steel that brings the edges back up. I even had names for favorite knives. My most favorite stubby I still use in my kitchen, I keep it in a case because it is so sharp. This is roller thingy is very intriguing for sure. I hated sharpening my knives, we used to wetstone. Also, I regret selling my wetstone 3 stone holder with mineral oil mot. I still have the 3 levels of coarse stones, but not the mechanism that held the mineral oil. Sharp knives a must for retail meat cutter. Thanks for sharing. Oh I just looked up and saw the hair on the leg being shaved. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😮
I really like the Trizor plus a double sided paddle strop, but I find the Trizor puts fine scratches on the side of the blade. It’s purely an aesthetic thing. Do get that with yours?
@@SeriousKeto Yes, that's my only problem with the Trizor. Great for my cheap beater knives. On my expensive Japanese knives there's no way I'm scratching them up even though the Trizor puts a razor sharp edge on em so they get the whetstones.
As an avid knife sharpener the only advice I give folks is that if you don't sharpen until you get the burr rolled over the entire length of the blade before you switch sides, you will never have a sharp knife.
It looks pretty good, a cheaper version of the Horl 2. Though the Horl 2 isn't cheap and the extra sharpening plates for the ends are just as expensive as the horl 2 itself. I've just bought a set of whetstone with an angled knife holder to help keep the angle right when sharpening. Though I do like the concept of the tumbler and horl 2.
Really appreciate the video just received the tumbler today going to start workn on some of house hold daily use blades and then move on to my competition blades and compare the results once again thanks for info
Thanks for creating this video. It was very informative. I really appreciate your honesty when doing your reviews. I can trust you do your best to make the product work and let us know if you feel it is worth our time and money. Please keep up the good work.
Thank you for the kind words. My short review is: "This is a good system for a non-professional, though it takes a bit more time and effort than the Instagram ads would lead a person to believe".
I bought one because honestly it kinda made sense and I thought it was a great invention. However I had about the same results. I definitely believe they exaggerated a little on the commercial and just wasn’t worth what I paid for it when you can get a different type for around $6 bucks that works great
I have a 3 step sharpening stone (rough, medium, fine). The thrift store knife, definitely needs to start on the rough side. Or even my wheel grinder in the basement.
I count the number of passes for each side of the knife so it’s the same number passes. Put pressure on it. Some knives are made of cheesy metal, don’t waste your time. I don’t have a lot of patience so I can finish five knives within 10 minutes. You have to keep up your sharpening, depending on use of the knives. This is great product. There are other sharpeners that you can change the grit of the sharpening material but way more money this product is great for me.
That was very interesting. I probably have 30 plus knives to sharpen. I bought my neighbor a ken onion version knife sharpener a few years back and handed him my collection to sharpen. They held up for a while. Last week I decided to get your recommended Trizor. Holy cow that thing is great. I’m terrible at sharpening knives and even I could do it. So I’m slowly working my way through my pile of dull knives. It definitely takes some time. I think they are even sharper then what my neighbor did with that other unit with all the different belts. I still need to get a strop. Your other video on knife sharpening really stuck in my brain. I love a sharp knife. The unit you reviewed today looks pretty kool, but kind of glad it didn’t do as well as the other. As usual I learn something from almost every video you do! Thanks Steve!
splendid review, thank you. Horl makes a similar gizmo with interchangeable discs, it looks better and smoother from the reviews I've seen.. Not all of my knives have the same angle at the cutting edge. One particular guyoto I have, ranges from 12.5' at the tip to about the center, , ,then opens up to about 20' near the handle (stronger, tougher, and longer lasting), for the butts of carrots, topping hard veggies, etc. I will however buy one of these. which one ? Probably the Horl, but I just found those so far, and I'm sure there are, or will be more shortly. Thanks again
Just wondering if you're using the fifteen degrees or Twenty. It would be good if you could show a video using both angles. So we would know what type of knife requires the use different angles.
I re-edged all of my knives to 15 degrees using the Trizor XV electric sharpener. Typically, Japanese knives are edged to 15 degrees and European/American knives are edged to 20 degrees.
I was hoping it would sharpen with less effort. I bet another 15 minutes of work would get it there, so I may do that one day while watching TV, then do a full restore of the handle and polish the blade.
Thanks for this honest and useful review. I had never heard of this product until yesterday when RUclips decided to show me an ad for it. I found the product on eBay for about $35 but still didn't know if it was any good. So this video helps a lot. Thanks again!
It's a decent entry level sharpener. If you find you start enjoying the sharpening process, I would encourage you to move up to a series of whetstones.
I thought it worked good enough for kitchen use! Don’t want an accident in the kitchen! Instructions said it would get better after the follow up uses. Sharpen, use, resharpen! I need to use mine, longer, to rate it.
i think the instuctions of that product are not correct. sharpen one side then other then go back to first side sharpen that 5 to 10 pases then do same to the other side and then the honing. also i think that it shoud come with 2-3 different grid depending how dull is your knife. 2 rollers 3 grid and honing and it would be perfect
Nice video Steve, I have to say I got the electric sharpener that you have because I saw it in one of your videos and very happy with it with one caveat if you have a weird shaped knife you are out of luck. This looks interesting though for my curved knife and the odd shaped one in my Chicago cutlery knife block.
I saw a similar system to this that was over $400 and so when I saw this video pop up I was like sweet because I was never ever going to buy it for that price and wanted to see it in action... Also I thought dang Steve spent over $400 on this to make a video? Then I clicked your link cause your were like this is not that bad of a price and I'm like oh really? Haha and this one is only $99 on sale... Not sure which one I looked up that was $400 bucks though... The wife told me I don't need this... But thanks again for the video!
I appreciate this review. Definitely didn't feel like you were just shilling for the product which I appreciate. Sounds to me like the tool is fine enough that it doesn't move metal very quickly. It is also interesting that you didn't feel like it ultimately got your knife overly sharp. Worst of both worlds. Also, as someone who has previously sharpened straight razors, it always grates on me a little when people say something is "shaving sharp" or that you can "shave with it". Removing long growth from a leg or arm is not what people who sharpen actual razors would call shaving sharp. To get a comfortable shave you usually need the razor to cut hanging hairs (i.e. pass the hanging hair test). I'm sure you could find examples on youtube. Just a bit of a pet peeve of mine.
It's actually not a workout at all - unless you're trying to sharpen a thrift store knife; then it will work out your patience. Otherwise, it's really sort of a relaxing process. 😉
Most American and European knives are 20 degrees, unless you have re-edged them to 15 degrees with something like the Trizor XV sharpener (which I have). Japanese knives are typically 15 degrees.
@SeriousKeto The most expensive Knives I have are from Cutco, currently I'm using our less quality kitchen knives will I have Care Workers here helping me with my mother. Thank you for your response
It’s unfortunate, but a reality of business. I have a small consulting company for which I’ve trademarked the name, logo and slogan. I’ve registered a dozen versions of the URL. That didn’t stop a Chinese company from registering 30 different URLs with my company name. At some point, they may legally challenge my right to use my business’s name that I established 5 years before them. You do your best to protect your intellectual property, based on your budget and willingness to fight.
Not defending either company, but if HORL feels that the Tumbler has violated any patent they hold, it is between them. Otherwise, history is full of "knock offs". Somebody is first and then others copy.
So you recommend people pay 4x the price of the Tumbler for essentially the same product? If Horl didn't patent the design, then it's not a "rip off", just a "knock off". 😉
@@musiciseverything120 Thanks for the question Natalie. Well I have several trades I learned and have a few sharpening devices for several decades, years, and this channel has an experienced person showing how if any progress was made, and one can easily come to the very clear conclusion, that this gadget is NOT what most knife owners, enthusiast would lay down the federal reserve shekels for. Just sayin'
Honing is to straighten a burr on the knife blade. Please post your source for why a person would hone before sharpening. www.seriouseats.com/honing-vs-sharpening-7096318
@@SeriousKeto in all seriousness, how would you know if a knife need to be sharpened if it was not honed first? Honing is straightening out a curved blade. If you did not straighten out the blade how would you know that it needed to be sharpened?
My planned recipe video for this week didn't turn out, so this is the next closest thing: a review of a kitchen tool. I'll have another recipe video next week.
I was thinking that this was a funny video but I love how you admit that you can be sucked in by social media ads as well. I haven't watched the video yet, I stopped to comment but I will watch it now. 🔪🔪
@@pjbecker6722 it’s not the first internet ad to hook me, and I’m sure it won’t be the last. 😉
"Looks like it should be on an executive desk" crazy scenario ran through my head at this comment....LOL - subordinate comes in to talk with boss - hey what's that cool thing on your desk? I use it to keep my knives sharp. Why do you need knives? You never know.... ;-)
LOL that was my first thought. If you see that on an executive's desk, just turn around and nope out of there.
😂😂😂
I bought the tumbler because whetstones are challenging to get a consistent angle. It might not be the finest edge but it is much easier to get good edge for using your knives for food than any other simple sharpening system. Great honest review
Some knife sharpening purists may look down on it, but it's a decent tool for folks who may not be ready to dive into the whetstone and strop sharpening.
Absolutely, this is how it needs to be looked at, novices and amateurs are going to buy this like hotcakes, and it does all they need. @@SeriousKeto
So many ways to sharpen a knife it is crazy. Looks like a nicely made system though for light work. Thanks for posting.
i have the tumbler, you gotta put some pressure while going through the pass. i usually take about 30 seconds to do the whole sharpening thing.
My first thought was that you would be rolling the sharpener next to the knife so it works like a grinder and a stone at the same time.
I like the concept because everything is referenced to the flat surface. I think it needs more grits and how do you do things like cleavers and pairing knives.
LOL. Watch the video before commenting, knucklehead. You covered both concerns. Nice review sir.
Nothing beats the Work Sharp Knife & Tool Sharpener, razor sharp results in less than 3min.
LOL! I absolutely love that you shaved your leg with it 😂😊❤
Retail meatcutter here for almost 35 years. I started 1974 when I was 18 years old. And I only bought and used Forschner knives from Germany, and I still have some to this day and I have my favorite steel that brings the edges back up. I even had names for favorite knives. My most favorite stubby I still use in my kitchen, I keep it in a case because it is so sharp. This is roller thingy is very intriguing for sure. I hated sharpening my knives, we used to wetstone. Also, I regret selling my wetstone 3 stone holder with mineral oil mot. I still have the 3 levels of coarse stones, but not the mechanism that held the mineral oil. Sharp knives a must for retail meat cutter. Thanks for sharing. Oh I just looked up and saw the hair on the leg being shaved. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😮
I got a Trizor myself and I've seen these and they look real nice but oh boy are they proud of it.
I really like the Trizor plus a double sided paddle strop, but I find the Trizor puts fine scratches on the side of the blade. It’s purely an aesthetic thing. Do get that with yours?
@@SeriousKeto Yes, that's my only problem with the Trizor. Great for my cheap beater knives. On my expensive Japanese knives there's no way I'm scratching them up even though the Trizor puts a razor sharp edge on em so they get the whetstones.
As an avid knife sharpener the only advice I give folks is that if you don't sharpen until you get the burr rolled over the entire length of the blade before you switch sides, you will never have a sharp knife.
True
Ah, that may be why it didn’t work for me the first time. Thanks.
I thought most every day thin blade knives are sharpened to 20°. 15° is usually reserved for high carbon Damascus type steel.
Should the “Tumbler” not tumble? - I think you might redo it an roll the tumbler while sharpening?
Just a thought.
Thx for your content.
Is it razor sharp?
Proceeds to shave leg. 😂
Steve, you had me in stitches 😅😂
It looks pretty good, a cheaper version of the Horl 2. Though the Horl 2 isn't cheap and the extra sharpening plates for the ends are just as expensive as the horl 2 itself. I've just bought a set of whetstone with an angled knife holder to help keep the angle right when sharpening. Though I do like the concept of the tumbler and horl 2.
Yeah, the Horl is out of my price range.
I found it to be very easy and it gives a great edge in just a few minutes
Really appreciate the video just received the tumbler today going to start workn on some of house hold daily use blades and then move on to my competition blades and compare the results once again thanks for info
Thanks for creating this video. It was very informative. I really appreciate your honesty when doing your reviews. I can trust you do your best to make the product work and let us know if you feel it is worth our time and money. Please keep up the good work.
Thank you for the kind words. My short review is: "This is a good system for a non-professional, though it takes a bit more time and effort than the Instagram ads would lead a person to believe".
Glad you enjoyed the sharpener! Not perfect but definitely simple and convenient!
That old knife looks like it came out of my grandmother’s knife drawer LoL! I suck at sharpening knives. This system seems kinda foolproof.
I bought one because honestly it kinda made sense and I thought it was a great invention. However I had about the same results. I definitely believe they exaggerated a little on the commercial and just wasn’t worth what I paid for it when you can get a different type for around $6 bucks that works great
There's definitely more work involved that their Instagram ads would lead you to believe.
I have a 3 step sharpening stone (rough, medium, fine). The thrift store knife, definitely needs to start on the rough side. Or even my wheel grinder in the basement.
I count the number of passes for each side of the knife so it’s the same number passes. Put pressure on it. Some knives are made of cheesy metal, don’t waste your time. I don’t have a lot of patience so I can finish five knives within 10 minutes. You have to keep up your sharpening, depending on use of the knives. This is great product. There are other sharpeners that you can change the grit of the sharpening material but way more money this product is great for me.
That was very interesting. I probably have 30 plus knives to sharpen. I bought my neighbor a ken onion version knife sharpener a few years back and handed him my collection to sharpen. They held up for a while. Last week I decided to get your recommended Trizor. Holy cow that thing is great. I’m terrible at sharpening knives and even I could do it. So I’m slowly working my way through my pile of dull knives. It definitely takes some time. I think they are even sharper then what my neighbor did with that other unit with all the different belts. I still need to get a strop. Your other video on knife sharpening really stuck in my brain. I love a sharp knife. The unit you reviewed today looks pretty kool, but kind of glad it didn’t do as well as the other. As usual I learn something from almost every video you do! Thanks Steve!
splendid review, thank you. Horl makes a similar gizmo with interchangeable discs, it looks better and smoother from the reviews I've seen.. Not all of my knives have the same angle at the cutting edge. One particular guyoto I have, ranges from 12.5' at the tip to about the center, , ,then opens up to about 20' near the handle (stronger, tougher, and longer lasting), for the butts of carrots, topping hard veggies, etc. I will however buy one of these. which one ? Probably the Horl, but I just found those so far, and I'm sure there are, or will be more shortly. Thanks again
Just wondering if you're using the fifteen degrees or Twenty.
It would be good if you could show a video using both angles. So we would know what type of knife requires the use different angles.
I re-edged all of my knives to 15 degrees using the Trizor XV electric sharpener. Typically, Japanese knives are edged to 15 degrees and European/American knives are edged to 20 degrees.
Thank you Steve! The goodwill knife looks very familiar! 🤣🤣
I was hoping it would sharpen with less effort. I bet another 15 minutes of work would get it there, so I may do that one day while watching TV, then do a full restore of the handle and polish the blade.
For what it is it does a good job. Never say your knife is razor sharp if you can cleanly shave your face.
Thanks for this honest and useful review. I had never heard of this product until yesterday when RUclips decided to show me an ad for it. I found the product on eBay for about $35 but still didn't know if it was any good. So this video helps a lot. Thanks again!
It's a decent entry level sharpener. If you find you start enjoying the sharpening process, I would encourage you to move up to a series of whetstones.
LOL, I have that same goodwill store knife...
Cool 🙂
Hahaha 😂 only one way to tell! I can't quit laughing!
I thought it worked good enough for kitchen use! Don’t want an accident in the kitchen! Instructions said it would get better after the follow up uses. Sharpen, use, resharpen! I need to use mine, longer, to rate it.
i think the instuctions of that product are not correct. sharpen one side then other then go back to first side sharpen that 5 to 10 pases then do same to the other side and then the honing. also i think that it shoud come with 2-3 different grid depending how dull is your knife. 2 rollers 3 grid and honing and it would be perfect
Once any knife has been profiled to 15deg with another sharpening system then this sharpener should work great.
That's what I did with my Trizor XV sharpener. All of my knives are 15 degrees.
I never thought I would watch you shave your leg … 😜
It was a game time decision.
@@SeriousKeto 🤣
Makes me wonder how dull my knives are. I just don't think of it. I guess I should!
Nice video Steve, I have to say I got the electric sharpener that you have because I saw it in one of your videos and very happy with it with one caveat if you have a weird shaped knife you are out of luck. This looks interesting though for my curved knife and the odd shaped one in my Chicago cutlery knife block.
I just take my knives outside and slide them across the bricks on the house. Perfection! 😉
I saw a similar system to this that was over $400 and so when I saw this video pop up I was like sweet because I was never ever going to buy it for that price and wanted to see it in action... Also I thought dang Steve spent over $400 on this to make a video? Then I clicked your link cause your were like this is not that bad of a price and I'm like oh really? Haha and this one is only $99 on sale... Not sure which one I looked up that was $400 bucks though... The wife told me I don't need this... But thanks again for the video!
The Horl is the brand that looks identical but costs $400.
@@SeriousKeto I wonder if the $400 would work better though the $300 better...
I think anyone who would be willing to pay $400 for a knife sharpening system is likely going purchase a series of Japanese whetstones instead.
I appreciate this review. Definitely didn't feel like you were just shilling for the product which I appreciate.
Sounds to me like the tool is fine enough that it doesn't move metal very quickly. It is also interesting that you didn't feel like it ultimately got your knife overly sharp. Worst of both worlds.
Also, as someone who has previously sharpened straight razors, it always grates on me a little when people say something is "shaving sharp" or that you can "shave with it". Removing long growth from a leg or arm is not what people who sharpen actual razors would call shaving sharp. To get a comfortable shave you usually need the razor to cut hanging hairs (i.e. pass the hanging hair test). I'm sure you could find examples on youtube. Just a bit of a pet peeve of mine.
Wait ... strop? is that right?
Correct.
Hello 👋🏻 great video, just one question can I use this wet.? Do you think it will make a difference.?
You do not use it wet.
Arm day! LOL
okay probably not that much of a workout but that’s what I first thought 😂
It's actually not a workout at all - unless you're trying to sharpen a thrift store knife; then it will work out your patience. Otherwise, it's really sort of a relaxing process. 😉
Thank you for the review.
This guy has one of those educational video voices
Thank you for posting. How do you know which angle to use on your knives?
Most American and European knives are 20 degrees, unless you have re-edged them to 15 degrees with something like the Trizor XV sharpener (which I have). Japanese knives are typically 15 degrees.
@SeriousKeto The most expensive Knives I have are from Cutco, currently I'm using our less quality kitchen knives will I have Care Workers here helping me with my mother. Thank you for your response
Would have been so much better to do a rougher sharpening side with a ceramic honing side then include the strop with a compound.
True
Would this work for outdoor knives too, and not just kitchen knives
Yes
Does it work after this review ? Mine stopped rolling ! After 2 weeks
Mine still works, but I appreciate getting feedback from others based on their experience.
LOL great video thanks
You kind of halfway reprpfiled the edge pretty sure most kitchen knife use 20 degrees
I re-edge all of mine to 15 degrees (Japanese standard) with a Trizor XV.
Holy crap, $129 on Amazon, these aint cheap
$98 direct from Tumbler, which still isn't all that cheap.
Looks convenient and easy to use but for $130 they can keep them.
I've found that the price they sell it for seems to vary wildly. I wouldn't pay $130 for it either.
Nice System, but they stole and copy from Horl…
I guess Horl should have patented it.
@@SeriousKeto They have it but not worldwide. A small company can not afford a worldwide patent
It’s unfortunate, but a reality of business. I have a small consulting company for which I’ve trademarked the name, logo and slogan. I’ve registered a dozen versions of the URL. That didn’t stop a Chinese company from registering 30 different URLs with my company name. At some point, they may legally challenge my right to use my business’s name that I established 5 years before them. You do your best to protect your intellectual property, based on your budget and willingness to fight.
Please make it known, that this is a knock-off of the original HORL Sharpener!
Not defending either company, but if HORL feels that the Tumbler has violated any patent they hold, it is between them. Otherwise, history is full of "knock offs". Somebody is first and then others copy.
I bought one, and I'm disappointed in the time it takes to sharpen a blade. For me, the price point is excessive for the quality.
A really dull blade can take quite a long while to sharpen with this.
Pretty sure you’re supposed to roll it not slide it…
Pretty sure that’s what I did. The sharpening stone rolls as you slide the cylinder back and forth.
You probably dulled it out when you did a couple of minutes at the wrong angle. You were changing the profile.
Don't try this at home kids LMAO
I just bought this...what a Waste of money
Nearly $200 ??
Hard pass.
$99 the last I looked.
Where do you see it for $200?
Terrible product👎🏿
This product is a complete rip off of the Brand Horl. Would maybe be good to point that out.
So you recommend people pay 4x the price of the Tumbler for essentially the same product? If Horl didn't patent the design, then it's not a "rip off", just a "knock off". 😉
@@SeriousKeto fair enough! I just thought it would be fair to point it out ;)
@@SeriousKeto Not everyone can afford a worldwide patent. It is like chinese copy and steal mentality…
From my experience................................. this is a HUGE waste of time and money with this 'gadget'.
Interesting! Did it not work for you?
@@musiciseverything120 Thanks for the question Natalie. Well I have several trades I learned and have a few sharpening devices for several decades, years, and this channel has an experienced person showing how if any progress was made, and one can easily come to the very clear conclusion, that this gadget is NOT what most knife owners, enthusiast would lay down the federal reserve shekels for. Just sayin'
Stupid gimmick. Always hone before sharpening.
Honing is to straighten a burr on the knife blade. Please post your source for why a person would hone before sharpening.
www.seriouseats.com/honing-vs-sharpening-7096318
@@SeriousKeto in all seriousness, how would you know if a knife need to be sharpened if it was not honed first? Honing is straightening out a curved blade. If you did not straighten out the blade how would you know that it needed to be sharpened?
@@steve3667 what are you talking about. honing is not straightening the blade but giving it the last final edge treatment
@@fetB Honing is the process of realigning and straightening the blade. Good luck!
@@steve3667 its not