Radical MP vs Extreme Tour - Is it the same racquet?
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Great and interesting video. Please do more of these direct comparisons (for example a comparison between the Wilson Pro Staff and ProKennex Ki Black Ace Pro or Wilson Blade 98 16x19 v8 and Head Graphene 360+ Radical Pro).
I will try that string setup and tension on my ProKennex Ki Black Ace Pro.
Great vid. Love it when 2 tennis nerds talk racquets :)
Radical pro felt AMAZING in my hand. I loved the weight distribution (polarized weight feel), weight based power, etc. I couldn’t imagine needing anything stiffer than the radical.
It gives no spin tho . This is what I found
@@sam8922 this is true. I used solinco confidential at 48 lb and it was like hitting with a tight 18x20 string pattern. I've used speed pros with more spin than the radical pro
ET was one of the few racquets I've tried that I truly just could not find any love for. Radical MP and Pro were excellent. I found the ET to lack power and spin, sweetspot seemed small. I found the Radicals to be more forgiving and created more spin. I tried the ET twice... once when it first came out and then a few months ago thinking maybe I just got a bad one (out of spec, etc.). Nope... same experience even the 2nd time round. Tried multiple string setup, etc. Just did not work for me and felt really unstable. My personal opinion is if a racquet doesn't feel good in stock form... it's not going to magically get that much better with weight.. A good racquet can be made better, but if you really don't vibe with a stick from the start it'll just feel like a heavier bad racquet.
I bought an ET and almost made the switch. But after weighting it up a little, it was just a crappier radical 😂 I didn't want to weight it but in stock, it's just a little too unstable and gets pushed around by big servers.
I tried a lot of rackets in the past two years and the Radical MP is the one I went for and I absolutely love it! I play with it for a year now. The only thing I could complain about is that maybe I would have liked a little bit more plowthrough and or a slighty lower flex. On my forehand it is all fine but I sometimes struggle a bit with my 2hbh. Where when I play with my Blade 98 v7 (16x19) my 2hbh feels awesome. When I switch to a 1hbh the feeling is fine. Curious what the Auxetic tech will do to the radicals!
Throw like 0.5g of lead tape at the top of the hoop
Launch angle of ET is little bit low (for me). On video Nikki hits flatter (trajectory) with with stick. I think slightly wider pattern in the center of mains will be make this racket perfect. 100% agree about customization. Stiffness, crispness and feeling of this racket is perfect for me, but I prefer Solinco WO other this stick.
I tested both aswell, went for the Radical because it felt way more predictable
With all the knowledge you must have about racquets, im very curious, what is your racquet of choice at the moment?
Interesting, from reading the forums I always thought the Extreme Tour was more flexible and control-oriented. I’m happy with mh ET, almost went with the Radical a while back but just couldn’t get over the bright neon orange haha
Been testing the new Radical MP, still find my Speed Pro to play WAY better for me, much bigger sweet spot, more stable, better balance, easier backhand. Still a nice frame though, about 5 days into playing with it, gotta give it more time.
I thought for a while whether i should wait for the new radical or old one, and i finally bought the old ver because of the color frame . Have u tried the old ver. before? Is there any difference?
@@michaelmok3979 Yeah old one is much stiffer, I've started to like the MP much much more. I tail weighted it and added a tiny bit to 3&9. Very nice feeling now, I prefer it to my speed pro.
what spec you usually use your extreme tour at?
Anyone thought of a Speed Tour? Would be a great mid point to suit many. Say 98 head size, 310g unstrung, 325 sw strung, 7 pts HL strung, question is 16x19 or 18x20
Boom Pro fills this spot I would say?
I'd love that!!
@@cd8145 Boom would be more powerful..and you just made me see the Speed Tour would have to be 18x20
One handers looking clean
how did you customize the extreme tour to get to your desired SW?
I wouldn't recommend adding weight at 3/9 on the ExtremeT because u loose a lot of maneuverability and quickness that makes this racquet stand out in first place. I've only added about 5 grams at 12 to counterbalance the weight of an overgrip and that's stable enough for most players...
Did you felt when adding weight in hoop that the racket become more stiff ? Looses that edge of softness that it has over radical or ex mp...
@@tennis-fan Not really, but u have to be careful with strings and grips on this racquet. I've tried a leather grip + overgrip but there was too much unwanted vibration coming through. Also a full bed of stiff poly can be quite uncomfortable. I would def. recommend a hybrid setup with a round poly/multifilament. To your comparison, I found the radical to be more consistent and stable with a slightly larger sweetspot. The ET can be very erratic with a wrong setup and has a relatively small sweetspot so you'll frame a lot more balls.. ;)
Head makes the most simple but the best in class racquets
For extreme topspin strokes in forehand and backhand the extreme tour feels better. The radical is better for more conventional strokes x
That's too simplistic. Someone who can generate already a surplus of spin would probably prefer more control of the radical. That a racket has a more dense string pattern doesn't mean that the racket is for conventional strokes. There is nothing conventional about djokovic strokes but he plays with a 95 inch² racket with a 18x19 string pattern (as i can remember) which is much tighter than the radical. Thiem's strokes are loaded with spin but his babolat strike is tighter than the radical. And i can go on and on with examples.
I don’t refer to the string pattern. In my opinion I find the extreme suits my technique for generating more topspin. I find it more aerodynamic. So, maybe that is different for another person. It’s relative depending on the player.
I wonder what if you put the lively string on a stiff racquet and dead string to the lively racquet.
A lively string in a stiff racket will likely provide too much power and not enough control. While a dead string to a lively racket will help add control to the frame which already is powerful on its own. A good example would be like adding natural gut to a pure drive vs solinco hyper g. natural gut is lively and so would be too much power but solinco hyper g, a more dead string, would add control and spin and it matches the nature of the frame its being placed in.
Looks like you're having so much fun on the court ;)
I am!
how is the radical mp with flat and touch shots ,and with the one-hander , vs the PA 98???
Have people found the Radical MP to be string sensitive, the demo I tried seemed a tad harsh on contact so I'm assuming it was the cheap demo strings in the racquet. I think I will wait until they reverse the colour way as I this racquet has the nickname Fanta Racquet lol
I have both my radical mp and extreme tour with 330 sw and 32,5 cm balance. And even if my extreme tour weights 4 grams more than my radical I find it a lot more maneuverable. The radical just drags too much through the air with my swing type
Sense? it makes none.
@@JTACTR twistweight
@@JTACTR and aerodynamics
I agree ☝️
Lots of weight at the tip of the Radical's head even with the same balance.
Can you share what they were strung with please?
It’s in the video, Lynx Tour/Hawk 1.25 at 53/49 lbs
The extreme is a great racquet but it destroyed my elbow. Now I play only with racquets well built like Yonex.
It’s funny how different people react to different rackets. I found the Yonex Ezone and Vcore gave me tennis elbow but the Extreme Tour was great.
I'm sorry well build? You just do know what racket to use and what string tension that's all it is. Guarantee if you changed strings and dropped tension you wouldn't have that problem. Let's be educated and not say ridiculous things on the internet.
@@Official.tadiwa 100% correct! I was having arm pain with the Extreme Tour (Lynx Tour, 52lbs) and switched to a full bed of multifilament with a lower tension (Velocity MLT, 46 lbs) for a couple months and the pain went away. Now I'm using a hybrid with both strings I've mention and it's completely fine
@@JT-zv1rx head lynx is an arm killer…. I don’t know why but it is. I haven’t had problems with multiple other polys just that one
Christian Garin is again endorsing the Head Radical. A close-up though reveals that his racquet has 18 main strings instead of the Radical's 16 mains. Is Garin using a customized Radical or is he really playing with a Head Speed Pro? Do you know?
He is probably playing with an older radical, old radicals had the 18x20 pattern, although I don't remember if it was both the pro and mp or o my the mp.
@@cleris7728 At some point both pro and mp used to be 18x20. Not sure at what generation they changed it.
Great chat. Beautiful strokes from Nikki, indeed. Where's he from? 95% British, but there's a twinge of something else there.
British yes
5% african.
What a coincidence!! Just yesterday I played a match in which my opponent was using the Radical MP and I was using the Extreme Tour.
@@Batwam0 I lost 4-6 4-6!! It was just my second match playing with the Extreme so I'm just getting used to it. But by now the Radical wins hahaha
I must say, I don't think Nikki is such a flat hitter. He hits with a lot of spin but more through the ball, so his balls are very penetrating. I like that a lot. I like his huge take back on the forehand. It is a bit more old school, but I think it looks much better, smoother.
Agree - he hits a heavy ball
On the one handed backhand, I think the Extreme Tour performs much better. Nikki's backhand looks more controlled on the ET than the Radical.
Would love to see a Boom Pro compared to the Radical MP like this
Yes would be interested in this, I tested a boom pro wasn’t as powerful as marketed but it was a demo with factory strings, I’m hearing with fresh string setup of choice they change dramatically, still keen to test a radical
god morning- very professional job, talk you later~ 🤞
Wow you can see how much more spin the Extreme Tour gives. Nikki's shot just dives extra aggressively and bounces shorter before launching towards the back.
Spanish there? 8:55 and 9:05 😎💪🏼
I had the extreme tour just after it came out and expected a lot from it but even after different setups with and without weight i just didn't feel the ball and it was very erratic.
I haven't played with the radical. But i generally play with 18x20 string patterns so i feel now confident with a tighter string bed.
I agree the extreme is erratic, the radical is not. Ive used 18x20 all my life and went with the rad mp because it feels like 18x20 in control aspect but with more spin and forgiveness of 16x19. I string in the mid 50 tho
Weird, coming from a very plush and controlled Gravity Tour and the Extreme Tour does feel amazing... more spin/power/maneuverability. This is how subjective racquets are.. ;)
@@LaSalviaBodysurf Tested them both quiet recently and the Radical has almost the same feel but with less Spin/Maneuverability... as a one hander I prefer the Extreme Tour ;)
@@hybrid11theory75 i prefer my gravity pro as well as my Dunlop cx200 tour 18x20 as well as my price synergy 98 as well as my blade v8 18x20 as well as my boom pro and i can name a while set of rackets better than the extreme tour in my opinion. And i really tried for several months and several customizations and strings but you just can't feel the ball, the contract point was difficult to find and i was spraying balls because of the erratic bed
@@LarzB Subjective, as I said. It's a great mix of power/control... it gets even better with customisation. If you don't feel the ball, maybe take some tennis lessons.. LMAO
No. Radical is more dampened. Extreme is more aerodynamic, thinner, more spin. I prefer the extreme tour. I’m using the extreme tour.