I'll never forget watching this with my dad. Dad wasn't much into sci-fi, but he loved a good war movie. As the Atlantia was blowing up he said, "People never learn, not even in space". Dad went on to say basically always be ready for war, it's no fun, but losing a war is worse. Well, something like that. I miss dad, seems the older I get the wiser he was.
It is only as you get older you realise your parents were right 9 times out of 10. Wish I'd listened to my mum when she told me at 16 to take out a pension. I'd be retired now.
Saw the original movie in the theater, they had the sound turned up so loud when the vipers used thier turbos, plaster dust would fall on you from the ceiling, best movie experience of my life!
sensoround- it had to be stopped because it was damaging theaters- I saw "Midway' with it in White Plains NY and you really got the feel for capital ships going up.
I had the honour and pleasure of meeting Richard Hatch in 2012 at a local sci-fi convention. He was truly like Captain Apollo in that he was kind,friendly,and intelligent. He autographed all my BSG stuff and I had my photo taken with him. Today,May 21 was(and is)his birthday. Fly Forever,Captain-you are missed. SO SAY WE ALL!
Richard hatch was a big sci fi geek even was planning to play a Klingon in axanar before his untimely passing. Agree he truly respected the science fiction genre.
I never had the pleasure of meeting Richard Hatch but wish I did. I would have loved to see the Battlestar Galactica series he tried to get production for, oh what could have been. May you rest in peace, many still miss you.
My brother got to meet him years ago. He has an autographed picture of Captain Apollo and it says “Keep up the good job of teaching the children of the fleet!”
Met Richard some several times- one of my best memories was when he was going to do a little meet and greet at a local comics shop in Marina del Rey, (it was still about 30 minutes away- yeah, he got there early to set up and such). A kid (I'd guess about eight) comes over and asks him if this is a good Batman (action figure)... (She was shopping for his brother's birthday present, apparently.) Richard stop what he's doing, gets up and helps the kid find the Batman toys- the kid's dad comes over, and after apologizing for his daughter disturbing him, (which Richard brushed with a "no big" or the like), the three of them find the one her brother should like best. After walking them to the counter, he goes back to his table and keeps getting ready.
I was 8 when I saw this. When Atlantia blew up, Lorne Greene's voice when he said "Oh, my God" conveyed all the meaning I needed to hear. To this day, that scene hits me hard...
@@chrisstetsko5020Herbert Jefferson, Jr. also appeared in Galactica 1980 as Colonel Boomer. And Dirk Benedict reprised his role as Starbuck for one episode.
The reboot was more technically accurate, more feasible....but somehow, I've always felt the 1978 version conveyed the emotions of desperation, despair and a lost cause far better. The reboot was cold.
You know I’m 59 and this is a very old shell and always remember that part two it’s like their desperately still trying to fight back but nothing is working thanks for the post.
I always thought they were desperately trying to close the shield over the bridge windows to stop the explosive decompression -- it was the first thing Adama ordered on the Galactica, and with good reason -- but it was too late for the Atlantia. I'll never figure out why EVERY sci-fi show (except the reimagined BSG) put the bridges of their ships in an exposed exterior location. Star Wars is especially guilty of this. "See this big thing sticking out of the top of our fearsome Super Star Destroyer? Destroy it!"
Special effects and action aside the most powerful line is when Adams simply says “Lord help us” when informed only they were able to launch fighters. No big exposition or silliness… even though we knew nothing of this universe, the forces, the battle tactics, or how this movie was going to turn out, in the first few minutes with one grave line Lorne Greene lets us know how just how bad it is - in a realistic and believable manner.
@@HalJordan2814 You're thinking of the "Reimagined" series. In that one, the Colonials are polytheists; in the original series, they're clearly monotheists, as they frequently make reference to "God" in the singular.
@@michaeldexter2544you’re right. They do mention lords of Kobol but it seems to be different than God… presumably the lords are some lower tier beings.
Yes, it was good indeed. But, in my opinion, yet both of them are about the same topic, the last one is of a different kind, with darker characters and more realistic, in spite of being both science-fiction. At the end of the day, different series each other.
The ONLY Galactica. The so-called reboot was just a lame attempt to profiteer off the name. It might have been a good show if it were not trying to be passed off as Galactica. At the end of the day, it was just The Terminator in Space
The old one from 1978 inspired Wing Commander 1, 2, 3 and 4. It is worth playing on PC using Dosbox to emulate DOS and using DBGL as a user interface. You will clearly experience something similar to Battlestar Galactica in a space combat sim. In the first one the enemy ships have a shape that is similar to cylone ships
Here's a fun little trivia nugget. First casualty of this ambush was Zak/Zack/Zach. Apollo's little brother, Adama's youngest son and played by Rick Springfield. Yes, the "Jessie's Girl" guy.
Back when a production like this could only come from one of the three major networks. No streaming, no on-demand. You had one opportunity to see it, and then maybe you could catch it in a rerun during the summer. Battlestar Galactica was must see Sunday night television, preferably in a dimly lit living room in front of a big, console color television. Those were the days.
Don't think I ever watched the pilot before, I was 2 at the time. Never seen it as reruns either. My older brother had the toys I played with. He had the safe redesigns that kept the blasters from firing out all the way. Miss those golden days of the early 80s. 🙁
Think I'm the same. I don't remember seeing this at all. Don't think I ever saw the movie and never knew exactly how everything started. I watch the crap out of the tv series but never had the toys. Pretty sure I never saw the toys because I'm positive I would of had them otherwise.
I loved those old launchable missiles! That was when kids could really play and use their imagination!! I had the Cylon raider (although I did lose one of the missiles shortly after I got the thing) 😁
@@sandal_thong8631 That's why parents had many kids and insurance on them. If a few died then they get their money back that was spent on raising them.
This show was second after Star Trek. Space 1999 was third and Buck Rogers in the 24th Century came in 4th place. These television shows were a comfort to leave towards leaving what was outside to stay outside.
I just realized the BSG of 1978 was more advanced than the Battlestars of the remake of the show, this Battlestar has energy weapons, not conventional ordinance.
First officer reporting on long range scanner readings (3:15) was using a hand held laser pointer! Those were not around when this show was made. They must have back lit the grid to simulate the pointer. Cool when science fiction anticipates small things we take for granted now.
Good point! aha. yeah, in science class, 1980..our teacher had a special item to show us. A LASER! It was about 18" long & a good 3" in diameter. To give us a better look at the beam, he had us douse the lights & he lit up a cigar & blew smoke where the beam was..imagine trying this today..smoking a cigar in front of a class full of 8th graders! Ahahaha! ..seems in over regulating .. the Nanny State type govt, we've lost more than we have gained. 'Freedom' & 'cool' & 'character' are more important than stupid regulations & pretend saftey.
@@gzuzsavz : Hey- similar experience here about that same time! An undergrad physics class. Our professor busted out something that looked like the ballast that goes to a florescent light fixture and plugged it into the wall. We marveled at the red beam. :-O
@@mort6913 Ah, neat! yeah..to see an actual laser beam back in 1980 was crazy! 😲 ..I wonder what those lasers cost, then..and here we can grab an LED laser for a paltry couple bucks that's a fraction of the size. My nephew got one a few yrs ago than can be focused a bit..was close to $100 & it can pop balloons, maybe light a match, aha. Cool stuff.
More of a slaughter massacre then a battle….. A quick devastating 1st strike that completely crippled the colonies and there fleet with minimal cylon losses.
Just need to have long, brilliant white exhaust plumes - about 500 yards long - when 100% power engaged. “Top end is unlimited,” said the strange voice. “Watch your head…”
That’s what killed it as well - high expenses for high end special effects! I loved this show as a kid. I didn’t see every episode as my parents were not much into television. They read a lot.
1:30 When they show the underside of the "gator head" at the front of the battlestar, it reminds me a lot of the front of an imperial walker taking fire.
In the early 80's nobody made anything like quality animation and certainly not for the syndicated market. The only thing you saw there was badly edited and dubbed anime retreads like Robotech and Star Blazers. Filmation did the Ghostbusters series in the mid 80;'s but other than that they did stuff for the networks or stuff for the toy companies only and it is extremely unlikely, as in impossible, that ABC would have bought even 1 season.
@@starlord6508 Well those are obviously completely opposite extremes. The budget difference alone for example. And frankly one wouldn't bring a puppeteer to a visual effects show. But i get what you are saying
They are. It's just a shane they had to recycle them over and over again for the show as they got screwed on the budget. They made it work but it go repetitive seeing the same fx shots episode after episode. If you're going to make a SciFi series give it an FX budget it deserves.
That would be John Dykstra. Fed up with Lucas taking most of the credit for his work on Star Wars he went to Universal and ran effects for BSG. Fun fact, the star field of Madagon effect was created by bouncing lasers of the Oscar he won for the Star Wars effects.
That may have been only part of the issue, Rally. I heard about some accident on the evening news where a toddler put the Colonial Viper in his mouth. The the device fired and the projectile lodged in his throat. The kid died. Afterwards, the redesigned toys did not launch missiles.
I took it more as poor decision making to put humanity in that situation of an ambush attack with no response plan in place for an enemy they knew couldn't be trusted.
@@johniii8147 I guess you missed Afghanistan, the SJWs taking over the Pentagon, and the female generals showing off their painted toe nails while China is launching missiles in outer space....
I remember it very well. Poor Atlantia! 40 years ago I was VERY angry and with my toys I tried to do the battle again and because I didn't have all the necessary "props" I started doing horrible drawings of the battle.... and that's one of the many reasons I got so bad at school!
It's weird that NOBODY in the Colonial military other than Adama suggested that the Cylon peace talks might be a ruse to cover an attack. No one at all.
@The Mystery Man Someone did a fanfic adaptation of Living Legend where Cain was shown everything Adama had on the Peace talks. It burned him that he wasn't there, and Adama, in a fanfic adaptation of Saga of a Star World, wished that Cain had been there.
@The Mystery Man I have copies of those fanfic stories. Yes, they are VERY well write , in my opinion. They do a lot to fill in the gaps that we don't see in the show. Plus, they had eight battlestars at Cimtar, not five. I always thought that was more realistic that there were eight, given how strong militarily the Cylons likely were.
In the novelization, they did but Adar overruled them believing Baltar's lies. And unlike Adama, they didn't disobey by flying probes or running full battle station drills.
In the novel, Adama explains that the Colonies had been at war with they Cylon Empire for a thousand years. There were CERTAINLY Colonial military commanders, officers, and enlisted who KNEW not to trust the Cylons, but the civilian leadership may have been so blinded by the hope for lasting peace and optimism bias that they completely disregarded the warnings from the military personnel who KNEW better. As Adama put it, the Colonial government had become infested with men and women "so preoccupied with the WORDS of power that they misunderstood the words of the POWERFUL when they smilingly offered peace." Also many civilians might have interpreted the military warnings as the navy not wanting its subsidies and budgets cut as they certainly would be with the end of the war.
The 5 Battlestars that took part in the battle were the Atlantia, Pacifica, Triton, Acropolis and Galactica. Only Galactica escaped destruction. According to a book about the series, which I don't know if it was considered as cannon, the Battlestars Columbia and Solaria were destroyed in the colonies. Later, Galactica meets the battlestar Pegasus, which is believed to have been destroyed but is also lost later in a battle with 2 Cylon Baseships.
In the episode "Gun on Ice Planet Zero", a Colonial prisoner (Cree) tries to throw off his interrogator by saying he is from the Columbia, and the Cylon replies "The Columbia was destroyed at the peace conference". Whether that means this exact battle is not clear. In the novelization of "Saga of a Star World" (the premiere), towards the end of the battle, Starbuck and the surviving pilots consider landing on the Solaria for fuel and weapon charge, but it is too badly damaged and finally is destroyed. The same publication also states in Adama's musings before the battle that the Pacifica (Atlantia's sister ship) had been destroyed a yahren (year) before this battle. There were also mentions of smaller support vessels with the battlestars. The speculation as to which of the other named battlestars (Triton, Rycon, Acropolis) may have been part of this fleet is vast. Believe me, I've strained to listen to the background chatter to pick out anything that might give a hint!
@@Kodos13 The Battlestar Rycon could not have been involved in the Battle of Cimtar. She was destroyed in the Battle of Cosmara Archipelago along with many other ships of the fourth colonial fleet. Cylons losing 3 Basehips too in this Battle. Glen A. Larson once said that while 12 Battlestars were originally built, but there was never a decision that the colonies would never build more than 12 of these ships in total, which makes sense for me. For a war of centuries you need more than 12 ships and Cylons seem to have a lot of base ships.
@@toddbazurto1423 in a fanfiction adaptation of saga of a star world actually the Columbia did partially survive she did make it out of the the fighting at Cimtar but unfortunately although Commander Fairfax Captain Killian and cadet Cree survived the Columbia was too badly damaged to be salvaged she lost one of her landing bay pods and had suffered severe damage to the rest of the ship they had to scuttle her before they left the colonies.
@@mikegallant811 I just read the released novel of Battlestar Galictica as a kid when the show came out and it mentioned the battlestar Solaria blowing up under Cylin attack after the Adams pulled the Galactica out of the battle and proceeded back to the colonies.
What was so upsetting was that the Galactica was the only battlestar that was totally prepared! The Atlantia didn’t even have the attack shields closed and it lead to complete decompression of their bridge in the attack! They didn’t even realize that the main energizer and solium tanks were on fire that led to her destruction! Like someone said they should have split up and divided into single targets and went to flank speed like the Galactica! It might have saved one or even two additional battle stars!
A lot of it didn't makes sense as to why the entire fleet wasn't ready to respond if needed. Just sat there and got destroyed. Nor did it make sense they left the planets totally defenseless.
@@johniii8147, I truly think Baltar so manipulated President Adar that he was coerced into pulling the entire fleet from the colonies to open the door for the Cylon massacre! Remember the president was so adamant about showing that they wanted peace that he was willing to do anything to resolve the thousand year (yahren) war! That’s my theory and it’s sad that Commander Adama was the only fleet commander that felt uneasy about not having their battlestar ready for any type of situation! Adama had the Galactica prepped the minute he heard of his fighters were fired on!
@@johniii8147, I know what you mean! But I truly think Baltar was behind it all, as their “peace” stipulation they require that they show as a sign of trust they would pull any and all military forces as a sign they were ready to negotiate peace and trusted the Cylons, and that is what I think happened! Because Baltar wanted to be supreme leader of his colony, he negotiated that if he could get the colonies to pull ALL their forces, the Cylons could do what they did! Baltar wanted to be the ONLY leader and have his colony untouched, remember Imperious Leader said he “altered” the bargain!
@@voyager202000 Well you would have been a complete fool to agree to such a thing so not believable. It was just a storyline they needed/created to set up the whole loan battlestar looking for earth. Not something actually likely to have happened.
High point of the series for me. And it wasn't when the Vipers started pouring out of the launch tubes, but rather when the heavy *CHUG CHUG CHUG* of Galactica's turbolasers started mowing down Cylon Raiders that I went "Ha! You tin-headed, garmonging Cylons didn't fool old Adama!"
The other Battlestars were already screwed before the Galactica left. You can hear the background chatter announcing that they've lost contact with the Triton and Pacifica, then more chatter from a Battlestar on fire and evacuating.
I know it was for cinematic effect but opening the shields to watch the Atlantia explode was a terrible idea as they knew the Cylons were doing suicide attacks into the ships, targeting the bridge sections as they did with Atlantia.
@@stephenolan5539 Recycling scenes, even taken from other series, was common practice up to the invention of CGI. Next Generation, DS9, and Voyager all shamelessly stole each others FX shots. Next Generation went as far as borrowing matte paintings from Buck Rogers, which aired 8 years earlier.
2:40 RIP, Button Pushing Guy ... you had one job, and because you didn't push the button hard enough, your ship was lost ... never to be forgotten, Button Pushing Guy ... The President of the Colonies, takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honorable Button Pushing to Button Pushing Guy, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action above and beyond the call of duty. Button Pushing Guy was the Button Pusher when his ship was assaulted by Cylon Raiders. Button Pushing Guy refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken.
@@jeffburnham6611 the only Cain as far as I'm concerned is the one in the original Battlestar Galactica. That other show doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
Each Battlestar hold 200 Hundred Vipers. There were according to Galactica s computer 1000 Cyclons fighters attacking the Colonial fleet . At end of battle Adama beautiful daughter said we have 68 Vipers left and 25 from their Battlestar.
The Colonial Fleet was really slack and got caught with their pants down. It is hard to believe Comnanders Adama and Cain are the only two tactical military officers in the fleet. 😬
useless trivia - the president was played by Lew Ayres, who also played the lead role, Paul, in the original (1930) version of All Quiet on the Western Front. He was a conscientious objector during WW2, but served as a medic under fire in the Pacific theater.
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AH HA 3:34 I've been listening to that background radio chatter for years trying to discern which Battlestar was the next to go. "This the ......... We're on fire. Abandoning ship. Request shuttles to--" But Adama's baritone was always too strong to hear through. The name of the Battlestar is given in the exact second as Adama says "withdrawing." The fan transcripts say its "Triton," but after repeating that one second over and over, I finally caught the last syllable of the radio as "...iss" Its the Acropolis. Acropolis died next, leaving 50/50 as to the Triton or Pacifica as the last survivor.
I don’t understand how the producers of Star Wars tried to make a case against Battlestar Galactica saying they got copied. The stories are vastly different and the special effects are not the same as Star Wars
One would think that Adama would have shared his suspicions with the CO'S of the other Battlestars, found a few who agreed, alerted them when his patrol came under attack and "forgotten" tell them about the president's orders to stand down. Of course, this was the 1970s.
As a member of the quorum he made his appeal directly to the president after Apollo's return and the loss of his youngest son Zach. After the refusal to act by the president Adama had a battle stations drill and left the ship on yellow alert. Why they were able to get their Vipers off.
@@gapratt4955 It been years since I saw the pilot for the Classic Battlestar Galactica, but as I recall, after a meeting of the governing counsel in which some things were explained to the audience, Adama told the president that he thought trusting Baltar was a bad idea, even before Appollo and Zack had set out on patrol. When they found the ambush, Zack's viper when damaged and couldn't keep up and they could not get a clear transmission back to the fleet, so Apollo headed back without him. When Adama learned that his patrol was under attack he asked the president for permission to send help, more than once I think, but the president, with Baltar at his side, forbade it. Adama got around the order by decided that it was a good time for a combat drill. Apollo landed on Galactica and was enroute to the bridge to report when they confirmed that Zack was being pursued and fired on by Cylon Raiders. Adama called up the president to inform him of this, the president turned to Baltar for an explanation only to find that Baltar had disappeared, then Kack's viper was shot down and the president asked what that was and Adama replied "That was my son, Mr. President." Does that sound about right to you?
@@ethenallen1388 Spot on, from what I remember. Adama told the president that after the quorum meeting when the president invited Adama's opinion with "I see the party was not a success with all my children."
Well the whole government or Quorum was pretty corrupt I think. Like 1 of those members that Apollo found on a ship, living life like nothing happened.
I remember something in galactica 1980 the cylon took a bad reaction to a microwave turned on! Just think someone taking an early lunch would have saved the fleet! Only in sci fi!
I just realized that the shields of a Battlestar were nothing more than heavy armor plating that is coated with low grade laser resistant materials. Looking at the design, those battleships had little armor on most of their outer hull. Still, they could take one Hell of a beating!
@@iantregale3215 In the novels, the ships were more designed like the Jupiter Class Battlestars from the 2013 remake. And like those, the flight pods retracted when jumping or it was needed to prevent this sort of attack. According to the novels, Baltar's agent besides sabotaging the Colonies' defenses also sabotaged the majority of the system that retracted flight pods on the Battlestars. They covered every contingency they could think of except Adama's paranoia.
I have loved this show since the beginning. And I know the destruction of the other battlestars was necessary for the story but I'll never understand why the fleet didn't simple withdraw like the Galactica did. The raiders couldn't have kept up with them and they might have been able to save some of the Colonies.
One thing I never figured out... Adama was a highly respected commander and member of The Quorum - why didn't he talk with the commanders of battlestars not named Atlantia and share his prep idea? Surely others would've gone along with it - it wasn't *technically* disobeying orders to "run a drill" or the like. Adama couldn't have been the only one to distrust the Cylons intentions. I think it would've made it a better arc to have them sinply overwhelmed by sheer numbers, or perhaps sabotaged by Baltar, than just "everyone is stupid except Adama" ... I don't hate it , I just think it could've been even better. Also: "Hey, Starbuck - it's dangerous around here!" (2 seconds later) (Starbuck's wingman has left the chat" (edit: fixed grammar issue)
@The Mystery Man thanks for the info - I've only seen a handful of deleted scenes. I can understand why they perhaps pulled those scenes, because they make Adama look really bad, whereas the pilot spins it so that it is the president of the Colonies who appears at fault. (edit: fixed typo)
Unfortunately that’s one of the points that really factors against the original. It’s a fine series but the Fall of the Twelve Colonies just didn’t feel right
@@chrisstetsko5020 right, but that shouldn't have stopped Adama from (privately) talking to the commanders of the other battlestars there and expressing his concerns. At the very least, be in a similar state of readiness that Galactica was in. There isn't evidence that happened, at least by the fact that every battlestar except AGalactica was caught with pants down when the Cylons started shooting. There wasn't much Adama could do with Atlantia, with Adar aboard, but there were a number of other battlestars present. I can't imagine none of those other commanders wouldn't have shared Adama's skepticism about the Cylons.
@@tuxedotservo knowing how some commanders are, most of them are going to say, "But what does the president say? I'm not going against the president at the peace treaty."
Yeah, you never wanted to be that second viper pilot in the background, or the one flying sort of down from one side of the screen and starting to curve back upward.
There is a mountain of backstory missing, which they tried to slowly fill in during the series. The 04-09 remake made this entire scenario much more believable. Why did they fall for Baltars story? Why bring the whole fleet? What it came down to was that the colonies were losing. The war had lasted a millennium and President Adar and the rest of the council were desperate for an end, so they let their guard down. Baltar wanted to be an autocratic ruler in charge of his colony and saw his chance, of course the Cylons backstabbed him as anyone would imagine they would and then slit his throat (theatrical cut) The battle of Molokay was a major defeat for the colonies. The novelization of this story was interesting. There were only 6 Battlestars in the fleet and they were much larger. The Atlantia was described as a show ship, with heavy paneling and such. The part I could never understand was everyone not an hour later film time, willing to again throw away There defenses for a peace treaty with the Cylons, now that was stupid.
I didn't need it in the 70's but I definitely needed some minimal effort to build a believable universe by the 2000's. Loved both of them, at the time, for what they were.... but there really is no comparison side-by-side. One is amateurish across the board and the other isn't. We filled in the blanks across the backyards and down quiet streets.
I could never understand how they could leave the landing bays opened or undefended during a attack. If they invested in a bay door, the fleet could have likely survive the attack.
In the novels, the ships were more designed like the Jupiter Class Battlestars from the 2013 remake. And like those, the flight pods retracted when jumping or it was needed to prevent this sort of attack. According to the novels, Baltar's agent besides sabotaging the Colonies' defenses also sabotaged the majority of the system that retracted flight pods on the Battlestars. They covered every contingency they could think of except Adama's paranoia.
Keep in mind less time is between this show and the events of Pearl Harbor versus now and the show. Sneak attack by fighters on a fleet while negotiating peace was still a painful wound.
@@thomaskelly336 Well your first problem is dates. The gas and oil embargo by the US was established August 1st, 1941. Pearl Harbor was attacked Dec 7th, 1941. That is a little over 4 months, not 2 years.
@@thomaskelly336 Second of all. If one country doesnt want to trade, they shouldnt be beat up to be forced to trade. Third, Japan could and did secure the oil fields of Burma. So in all reality, the attack was nothing more than petty revenge for the various embargoes, policies of racial discrimination, and feeling of not being treated as an equal
I always thought that the original series had alot of myth and legend to it than the new series. The colonial citizens regarded the colonial warriors as the last defence of there worlds but here they struck down by the cylons the last battlestar left now a fight for survival a story for myth and legend the new series was like late 21centary humans 200.000 year's ago it doesn't have the same feel
It's hard to believe that all that power just sat there doing nothing. Could you imagine if they all fought to their potential , but that would have changed the whole story. I can still picture it though.
If the Galactica's long range detection systems were able the pick up the oncoming Cylon attack force, why didn't the commanders of the other Battlestars put their ships on alert? Another question. As Baltar set up this so-called peace conference, you mean to tell me that no one on the council of 12 questioned why all Battlestars needed to attend this event leaving their home world defenseless?
I was under the understanding that each colony was represented by a Battlestar ..there were only 5 Battlestars in that fleet but at the beginning you see 12 leaders on the Atlantia with the president.Hence where are the other 7 Battlestars and that they all didn't get fighters airborne..Do t get me wrong I loved that show.. but the 2004 BSG had much better premise with the defense mainfra. infected with a virus
The Commanders of the other Battlestars were not on Duty becuase there was a Peace treaty to be signed. Commander Adama didn't believe or trust the Cylons and kept the Galactica on alert until the Peace treaty was signed which it never happened and the Cylons attacked.
I think the original BSG would have faired better if they had stuck to more moments like this. It was the goofy "lite/silly" stuff that doomed the show. Cheese killed it.
2:42 Yeah! That's right negative shield now! While your Battlestar is still under cylon attack. Adama are you crazy? Close the shutters before debris hits that window or a Cylon fires at it. Just to watch the President's ship blow up? 2:46 in middle right side of the video, look at that guy run. I mean the President is having trouble holding onto the railing, but this guy has no trouble running???
Commander Caine of the Pegasus was one who knew never to trust the cylons and kept attacking Gomorrah around the clock strikes so that they couldn't unleash fully strength upon his ship and crew
The stories of the other Battlestar's will only be known to each of our imaginations. I was aboard The Triton. Destroyed by sneak attack at the peace conference. BSG forever.
The last movie in theaters in Sensurround, When the Atlantia blew up it was so loud. Some critiques as I re-watched years later. The back story was missing, which was in the novelization. The problem with this is that it makes the humans look like the biggest bunch of nitwits ever. How could you trust the Cylons, how could you not be prepared. Now the early 2000's reboot did a great job of reinventing the story to be more plausible. Especially by dialing back some of the tech. The original backstory that is missing is the humans had been at war with the Cylons for 1000 years, they had been beat down and were in a bad position after losing the battle of Molikay - referenced in the episodes with Lloyd Bridges as Commander Cain. So a sort of desperation had set in.
The Galactica spaceship decided to get away from that unequal battle, so as not to be an accomplice or victim of that massacre that the Cylon machines had planned against humanity. He was moving quickly towards the colonies but not even that advantage could prevent the machines from attacking the human colonies.
What would the Galactica do once she got there? Alone with no fighters against 3 base ships and their fighters. Maybe try to draw them away from the colonies?
1:48 ... They were quite fortunate that a guy holding a fire extinguisher just happened to be standing in front of the wall when it suddenly exploded into flames.
Agreed, the reimagined reboot was okay, but there's a lot of things that I had issues with about that version, while Boomer and Starbuck getting gender-swapped were amongst them, there's things I disliked more than that, such as doing away with the original dialogue with exception to the swear word "Frack"
It really wasn't that great a mythology to begin with. The bad guy they encountered (who created the Cylons?) was the narrator for the series, saying "There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe.... Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens." That's total rubbish, but they made it true for the revised series.
@@sandal_thong8631 Unlike other TV shows like Buck Rogers, where he falls asleep for 500 years in space and then comes back to Earth and everyone is still disco dancing--definitely NOT "total rubbish."
I'll never forget watching this with my dad. Dad wasn't much into sci-fi, but he loved a good war movie. As the Atlantia was blowing up he said, "People never learn, not even in space". Dad went on to say basically always be ready for war, it's no fun, but losing a war is worse. Well, something like that. I miss dad, seems the older I get the wiser he was.
There are only two real rules in war...
Rule number one is that people die.
Rule number two is that no one can change rule number one.
Your dad is a wise man
It is only as you get older you realise your parents were right 9 times out of 10. Wish I'd listened to my mum when she told me at 16 to take out a pension. I'd be retired now.
I used to watch it with my old man too. Miss him.
A smart man learns through his experiences, a wise man learns from everyone else’s.
Saw the original movie in the theater, they had the sound turned up so loud when the vipers used thier turbos, plaster dust would fall on you from the ceiling, best movie experience of my life!
Oh man, that's so cool.
sensoround- it had to be stopped because it was damaging theaters- I saw "Midway' with it in White Plains NY and you really got the feel for capital ships going up.
If I was drunk and on acid that's cool 😎 but I might wana yell at the man to turn that shut down hehe stranger stranger
@@GravesRWFiA I saw Midway with that sound system as well - holy cow was it cool
Sensorround.
I had the honour and pleasure of meeting Richard Hatch in 2012 at a local sci-fi convention.
He was truly like Captain Apollo in that he was kind,friendly,and intelligent. He autographed all my BSG stuff and I had my photo taken with him.
Today,May 21 was(and is)his birthday.
Fly Forever,Captain-you are missed.
SO SAY WE ALL!
Richard hatch was a big sci fi geek even was planning to play a Klingon in axanar before his untimely passing. Agree he truly respected the science fiction genre.
I never had the pleasure of meeting Richard Hatch but wish I did. I would have loved to see the Battlestar Galactica series he tried to get production for, oh what could have been. May you rest in peace, many still miss you.
My brother got to meet him years ago. He has an autographed picture of Captain Apollo and it says “Keep up the good job of teaching the children of the fleet!”
Met Richard some several times- one of my best memories was when he was going to do a little meet and greet at a local comics shop in Marina del Rey, (it was still about 30 minutes away- yeah, he got there early to set up and such). A kid (I'd guess about eight) comes over and asks him if this is a good Batman (action figure)... (She was shopping for his brother's birthday present, apparently.) Richard stop what he's doing, gets up and helps the kid find the Batman toys- the kid's dad comes over, and after apologizing for his daughter disturbing him, (which Richard brushed with a "no big" or the like), the three of them find the one her brother should like best. After walking them to the counter, he goes back to his table and keeps getting ready.
I only wished that they made his Galactica. I bought and devoured the paperbacks.
What we got was great but I still thought Hatch had a good thing.
I was 8 when I saw this. When Atlantia blew up, Lorne Greene's voice when he said "Oh, my God" conveyed all the meaning I needed to hear. To this day, that scene hits me hard...
Lorne Greene was a wonderful actor clearly demonstrated in this series, Adama we miss you xxx
He cherished playing Adama, took a pay cut, and a character demotion just to be the only major character to return for hideous Galactica 1980.
I'd say he was American late Sean Connery - Majestic MAN, radiating authority and presence.
@@chrisstetsko5020Herbert Jefferson, Jr. also appeared in Galactica 1980 as Colonel Boomer.
And Dirk Benedict reprised his role as Starbuck for one episode.
@@piotrd.4850 except Lorne Greene was Canadian.
The reboot was more technically accurate, more feasible....but somehow, I've always felt the 1978 version conveyed the emotions of desperation, despair and a lost cause far better. The reboot was cold.
2:38 I love this scene here where the crewmen of the Atlantia are trying to work the controls, but nothing's responding. Very realistic.
You know I’m 59 and this is a very old shell and always remember that part two it’s like their desperately still trying to fight back but nothing is working thanks for the post.
What’s even trying to do seems pointless
I always thought they were desperately trying to close the shield over the bridge windows to stop the explosive decompression -- it was the first thing Adama ordered on the Galactica, and with good reason -- but it was too late for the Atlantia.
I'll never figure out why EVERY sci-fi show (except the reimagined BSG) put the bridges of their ships in an exposed exterior location. Star Wars is especially guilty of this. "See this big thing sticking out of the top of our fearsome Super Star Destroyer? Destroy it!"
Even today i like the original battlestar galactice and the sound effects are insane...i like it ❤
Special effects and action aside the most powerful line is when Adams simply says “Lord help us” when informed only they were able to launch fighters. No big exposition or silliness… even though we knew nothing of this universe, the forces, the battle tactics, or how this movie was going to turn out, in the first few minutes with one grave line Lorne Greene lets us know how just how bad it is - in a realistic and believable manner.
He also said "Oh my God" when Atlantia was destroyed. But I thought they established in the series that they believed in multiple Gods.
@@HalJordan2814 You're thinking of the "Reimagined" series. In that one, the Colonials are polytheists; in the original series, they're clearly monotheists, as they frequently make reference to "God" in the singular.
@@michaeldexter2544you’re right. They do mention lords of Kobol but it seems to be different than God… presumably the lords are some lower tier beings.
The Original " Battlestar Galactica " will always be the Best
Yes, it was good indeed. But, in my opinion, yet both of them are about the same topic, the last one is of a different kind, with darker characters and more realistic, in spite of being both science-fiction. At the end of the day, different series each other.
The ONLY Galactica. The so-called reboot was just a lame attempt to profiteer off the name. It might have been a good show if it were not trying to be passed off as Galactica. At the end of the day, it was just The Terminator in Space
Yes
The old one from 1978 inspired Wing Commander 1, 2, 3 and 4. It is worth playing on PC using Dosbox to emulate DOS and using DBGL as a user interface. You will clearly experience something similar to Battlestar Galactica in a space combat sim. In the first one the enemy ships have a shape that is similar to cylone ships
Here's a fun little trivia nugget. First casualty of this ambush was Zak/Zack/Zach. Apollo's little brother, Adama's youngest son and played by Rick Springfield. Yes, the "Jessie's Girl" guy.
This show was ahead of its time. I watched this when I was 12 loved it it would of be better if they stuck to the Plot instead of going all hay wire
As a young child early/mid 90s this was incredible. Still my Galactica
Back when a production like this could only come from one of the three major networks. No streaming, no on-demand. You had one opportunity to see it, and then maybe you could catch it in a rerun during the summer. Battlestar Galactica was must see Sunday night television, preferably in a dimly lit living room in front of a big, console color television. Those were the days.
I was 6 when this premiered on television. Watched it with my older siblings and shocked at how brutal the president's end was.
Best sci fi series ever.
Should have lasted longer and been a mega franchise.
Don't think I ever watched the pilot before, I was 2 at the time. Never seen it as reruns either. My older brother had the toys I played with. He had the safe redesigns that kept the blasters from firing out all the way. Miss those golden days of the early 80s. 🙁
Think I'm the same. I don't remember seeing this at all. Don't think I ever saw the movie and never knew exactly how everything started. I watch the crap out of the tv series but never had the toys. Pretty sure I never saw the toys because I'm positive I would of had them otherwise.
Still got a couple of the toys, not in great condition, but have them.
I just read about those toys on Wikipedia, that killed one 4-year-old and sent another to the hospital getting a small missile down their throats.
I loved those old launchable missiles! That was when kids could really play and use their imagination!! I had the Cylon raider (although I did lose one of the missiles shortly after I got the thing) 😁
@@sandal_thong8631 That's why parents had many kids and insurance on them. If a few died then they get their money back that was spent on raising them.
I love the old Battlestar Galactica
That shot of the Cylon raider passing the top of the Battlestar is pretty awesome.
This show was second after Star Trek. Space 1999 was third and Buck Rogers in the 24th Century came in 4th place. These television shows were a comfort to leave towards leaving what was outside to stay outside.
I just realized the BSG of 1978 was more advanced than the Battlestars of the remake of the show, this Battlestar has energy weapons, not conventional ordinance.
First officer reporting on long range scanner readings (3:15) was using a hand held laser pointer! Those were not around when this show was made. They must have back lit the grid to simulate the pointer. Cool when science fiction anticipates small things we take for granted now.
Not popular, but used in some of my university classes. The computer graphics were fairly state of the art, as well.
I've been watching this scene for something like 40 years and I never noticed that. Good catch.
Good point! aha. yeah, in science class, 1980..our teacher had a special item to show us. A LASER! It was about 18" long & a good 3" in diameter.
To give us a better look at the beam, he had us douse the lights & he lit up a cigar & blew smoke where the beam was..imagine trying this today..smoking a cigar in front of a class full of 8th graders! Ahahaha! ..seems in over regulating .. the Nanny State type govt, we've lost more than we have gained. 'Freedom' & 'cool' & 'character' are more important than stupid regulations & pretend saftey.
@@gzuzsavz : Hey- similar experience here about that same time! An undergrad physics class. Our professor busted out something that looked like the ballast that goes to a florescent light fixture and plugged it into the wall. We marveled at the red beam. :-O
@@mort6913 Ah, neat! yeah..to see an actual laser beam back in 1980 was crazy! 😲
..I wonder what those lasers cost, then..and here we can grab an LED laser for a paltry couple bucks that's a fraction of the size. My nephew got one a few yrs ago than can be focused a bit..was close to $100 & it can pop balloons, maybe light a match, aha. Cool stuff.
More of a slaughter massacre then a battle…..
A quick devastating 1st strike that completely crippled the colonies and there fleet with minimal cylon losses.
At least they got to shoot back unlike in the reboot.
@@kirishima638 I don't think they hit anything, not a single Raider.
@@kirishima638Classic show but the reboot made more realistic sense in how to have such a quick overwhelming victory.
Basically Pearl Harbor in space...🤔
@@darania1 yes
Star wars quality FX in a TV show!
This tv series was so ahead of it’s time and something so special that we will never see again
If only they didn't add that stupid exhaust plume from the Vipers. It takes me right out of the show.
Just need to have long, brilliant white exhaust plumes - about 500 yards long - when 100% power engaged.
“Top end is unlimited,” said the strange voice. “Watch your head…”
That’s what killed it as well - high expenses for high end special effects! I loved this show as a kid. I didn’t see every episode as my parents were not much into television. They read a lot.
@@jogordon1530 Right about the expense - that is why they reused many sequences to keep the episode costs manageable.
1:30 When they show the underside of the "gator head" at the front of the battlestar, it reminds me a lot of the front of an imperial walker taking fire.
Battlestar Galactica was such a classic series.
As a child, this was hardcore. The destruction of the Atlantia has kind of stuck with me.
I owned the album verison of the original Battlestar Galactica..all the dialogue and sound effects.
I love all the stock 70s sounds in this!
We watched this every week in a dorm room on a 9 inch black and white tv.
I'm genuinely surprised a studio like Filmation didn't grab the opportunity to continue the original show as an animated series.
In the early 80's nobody made anything like quality animation and certainly not for the syndicated market. The only thing you saw there was badly edited and dubbed anime retreads like Robotech and Star Blazers. Filmation did the Ghostbusters series in the mid 80;'s but other than that they did stuff for the networks or stuff for the toy companies only and it is extremely unlikely, as in impossible, that ABC would have bought even 1 season.
The comic book tie-in from that era could get pretty gnarly. I remember being freaked out as a kid reading some of 'em.
@@roystonlodge If you're talking about the Marvel Series, they did have some good and not so good storylines in them.
@@josephhinkofer5995 Upon reflection, I might be thinking of the Buck Rogers comic book from the 70s.
There was a Marvel comics series for Battlestar Galactica.
Damn fine effects for 1978
@@starlord6508 It was a few people. That isn't surprising given how insular Hollywood is, especially back in those days.
@@starlord6508 Well those are obviously completely opposite extremes. The budget difference alone for example. And frankly one wouldn't bring a puppeteer to a visual effects show. But i get what you are saying
They are. It's just a shane they had to recycle them over and over again for the show as they got screwed on the budget.
They made it work but it go repetitive seeing the same fx shots episode after episode. If you're going to make a SciFi series give it an FX budget it deserves.
That would be John Dykstra. Fed up with Lucas taking most of the credit for his work on Star Wars he went to Universal and ran effects for BSG. Fun fact, the star field of Madagon effect was created by bouncing lasers of the Oscar he won for the Star Wars effects.
@@starlord6508 some of them were, such as John Dykstra
I LOVE that the Cyclon Raider at 00:19 actually casts a shadow on the Galactica as she is strafing her.
That's because they were lit models, not CGI
@@SJHFoto The models are shot separately and then optically combined in a final shot. The shadow would have to have been filmed and added separately.
I love that they wait until a few seconds after this moment to launch fighters WTF?
Loved this as a kid!!! Had the Viper and Cylon ship. The fun we had!!! Was bummed when it was cancelled. I understand it cost a fortune to produce.
I remember they had these coiled springs that shot bullets
@@Tommykey07 YES!! They were red and the vipor shot from the front and cylon ship on each side of the “wings”.
That may have been only part of the issue, Rally. I heard about some accident on the evening news where a toddler put the Colonial Viper in his mouth. The the device fired and the projectile lodged in his throat. The kid died. Afterwards, the redesigned toys did not launch missiles.
Looked so real, too!
As a kid i had a viper and Ceylon fighter toys. I used to have mock battles with my xwing, buck Rogers fighter and my f4 phantom jet fighter lol
What an intense beginning, showcasing the weaknesses of humanity, the downfall of humanity.
Loved this movie
I took it more as poor decision making to put humanity in that situation of an ambush attack with no response plan in place for an enemy they knew couldn't be trusted.
@@johniii8147 Sounds like the US military, tbh 😂
@@gicking3898 No not really. They get the job done when needed.
@@johniii8147 I guess you missed Afghanistan, the SJWs taking over the Pentagon, and the female generals showing off their painted toe nails while China is launching missiles in outer space....
@@gicking3898 More like leftist liberal politicians everywhere in the West.
I remember it very well. Poor Atlantia! 40 years ago I was VERY angry and with my toys I tried to do the battle again and because I didn't have all the necessary "props" I started doing horrible drawings of the battle.... and that's one of the many reasons I got so bad at school!
Lorne Greene and Loydd Bridges playing Pegasus active combat Admiral... Great actors.
a classic battle from classic science fiction show. one of my favorite shows as a kid.
I always loved the viper launch sequence
It's weird that NOBODY in the Colonial military other than Adama suggested that the Cylon peace talks might be a ruse to cover an attack. No one at all.
Baltar was there to use his slimy words to sucker or silence dissenters just like he fooled Adar. Baltar was their versuon of our cnn.
@The Mystery Man Someone did a fanfic adaptation of Living Legend where Cain was shown everything Adama had on the Peace talks. It burned him that he wasn't there, and Adama, in a fanfic adaptation of Saga of a Star World, wished that Cain had been there.
@The Mystery Man I have copies of those fanfic stories. Yes, they are VERY well write , in my opinion. They do a lot to fill in the gaps that we don't see in the show.
Plus, they had eight battlestars at Cimtar, not five. I always thought that was more realistic that there were eight, given how strong militarily the Cylons likely were.
In the novelization, they did but Adar overruled them believing Baltar's lies. And unlike Adama, they didn't disobey by flying probes or running full battle station drills.
In the novel, Adama explains that the Colonies had been at war with they Cylon Empire for a thousand years. There were CERTAINLY Colonial military commanders, officers, and enlisted who KNEW not to trust the Cylons, but the civilian leadership may have been so blinded by the hope for lasting peace and optimism bias that they completely disregarded the warnings from the military personnel who KNEW better. As Adama put it, the Colonial government had become infested with men and women "so preoccupied with the WORDS of power that they misunderstood the words of the POWERFUL when they smilingly offered peace." Also many civilians might have interpreted the military warnings as the navy not wanting its subsidies and budgets cut as they certainly would be with the end of the war.
The 5 Battlestars that took part in the battle were the Atlantia, Pacifica, Triton, Acropolis and Galactica. Only Galactica escaped destruction. According to a book about the series, which I don't know if it was considered as cannon, the Battlestars Columbia and Solaria were destroyed in the colonies. Later, Galactica meets the battlestar Pegasus, which is believed to have been destroyed but is also lost later in a battle with 2 Cylon Baseships.
In the episode "Gun on Ice Planet Zero", a Colonial prisoner (Cree) tries to throw off his interrogator by saying he is from the Columbia, and the Cylon replies "The Columbia was destroyed at the peace conference". Whether that means this exact battle is not clear.
In the novelization of "Saga of a Star World" (the premiere), towards the end of the battle, Starbuck and the surviving pilots consider landing on the Solaria for fuel and weapon charge, but it is too badly damaged and finally is destroyed. The same publication also states in Adama's musings before the battle that the Pacifica (Atlantia's sister ship) had been destroyed a yahren (year) before this battle. There were also mentions of smaller support vessels with the battlestars.
The speculation as to which of the other named battlestars (Triton, Rycon, Acropolis) may have been part of this fleet is vast. Believe me, I've strained to listen to the background chatter to pick out anything that might give a hint!
@@Kodos13 The Battlestar Rycon could not have been involved in the Battle of Cimtar. She was destroyed in the Battle of Cosmara Archipelago along with many other ships of the fourth colonial fleet. Cylons losing 3 Basehips too in this Battle. Glen A. Larson once said that while 12 Battlestars were originally built, but there was never a decision that the colonies would never build more than 12 of these ships in total, which makes sense for me. For a war of centuries you need more than 12 ships and Cylons seem to have a lot of base ships.
The book adaptation of the movie/pilot listed the Solaria as one of the battlestars destroyed at the "peace talks" with the Cylons at Cimtar.
@@toddbazurto1423 in a fanfiction adaptation of saga of a star world actually the Columbia did partially survive she did make it out of the the fighting at Cimtar but unfortunately although Commander Fairfax Captain Killian and cadet Cree survived the Columbia was too badly damaged to be salvaged she lost one of her landing bay pods and had suffered severe damage to the rest of the ship they had to scuttle her before they left the colonies.
@@mikegallant811 I just read the released novel of Battlestar Galictica as a kid when the show came out and it mentioned the battlestar Solaria blowing up under Cylin attack after the Adams pulled the Galactica out of the battle and proceeded back to the colonies.
“Atlantia death squadron, attack.” That line gave me 10yr old me chills when I saw it in theaters.
Even though this is almost 50 years old, I like this movie - even better than Star Wars!
Almost 50? Yeah, and I'm almost a millionaire. 😁
What was so upsetting was that the Galactica was the only battlestar that was totally prepared! The Atlantia didn’t even have the attack shields closed and it lead to complete decompression of their bridge in the attack! They didn’t even realize that the main energizer and solium tanks were on fire that led to her destruction! Like someone said they should have split up and divided into single targets and went to flank speed like the Galactica! It might have saved one or even two additional battle stars!
A lot of it didn't makes sense as to why the entire fleet wasn't ready to respond if needed. Just sat there and got destroyed. Nor did it make sense they left the planets totally defenseless.
@@johniii8147, I truly think Baltar so manipulated President Adar that he was coerced into pulling the entire fleet from the colonies to open the door for the Cylon massacre! Remember the president was so adamant about showing that they wanted peace that he was willing to do anything to resolve the thousand year (yahren) war! That’s my theory and it’s sad that Commander Adama was the only fleet commander that felt uneasy about not having their battlestar ready for any type of situation! Adama had the Galactica prepped the minute he heard of his fighters were fired on!
@@voyager202000 Still doesn't make any sense they left the fleet and colonies unprepared to respond.
@@johniii8147, I know what you mean! But I truly think Baltar was behind it all, as their “peace” stipulation they require that they show as a sign of trust they would pull any and all military forces as a sign they were ready to negotiate peace and trusted the Cylons, and that is what I think happened! Because Baltar wanted to be supreme leader of his colony, he negotiated that if he could get the colonies to pull ALL their forces, the Cylons could do what they did! Baltar wanted to be the ONLY leader and have his colony untouched, remember Imperious Leader said he “altered” the bargain!
@@voyager202000 Well you would have been a complete fool to agree to such a thing so not believable. It was just a storyline they needed/created to set up the whole loan battlestar looking for earth. Not something actually likely to have happened.
High point of the series for me.
And it wasn't when the Vipers started pouring out of the launch tubes, but rather when the heavy *CHUG CHUG CHUG* of Galactica's turbolasers started mowing down Cylon Raiders that I went "Ha! You tin-headed, garmonging Cylons didn't fool old Adama!"
The other Battlestars should have dispersed and scattered in different directions to regroup. Live to fight another day.
This was designed to replicate what happened during Pearl harbor
The other Battlestars were already screwed before the Galactica left. You can hear the background chatter announcing that they've lost contact with the Triton and Pacifica, then more chatter from a Battlestar on fire and evacuating.
The only other Battlestar that managed to escape from this was the Pegasus
@@karlsmith2570 the Pegasus was presumed lost at the Battle of Molecay, which was 2 yahrens (years) before this battle.
@@karlsmith2570 The Pegasus wasn't at this battle. It was presumed destroyed two years earlier at the Battle of Molakay.
I prefer Star Treks ships were eye candy. Star Wars story was heart breaking. And Battlestar Galactica had the sound design.
I know it was for cinematic effect but opening the shields to watch the Atlantia explode was a terrible idea as they knew the Cylons were doing suicide attacks into the ships, targeting the bridge sections as they did with Atlantia.
One of my childhood favorites!
I thought it lasted for years, it left such a mark on me.
They had to constantly recycle these effects shots for the rest of the series because they were too expensive to shoot.
Thanks to John Dykstra for blowing all of Mr Larson's FX budget in an episode.
In 1978, we didnt mind.
There is a clip where two vipers are just flying and in the bottom corner you see a Cylon ship that wasn’t edited out fully. It’s funny.
IIRC there is a scene recycled in Silent Running.
@@stephenolan5539 Recycling scenes, even taken from other series, was common practice up to the invention of CGI. Next Generation, DS9, and Voyager all shamelessly stole each others FX shots. Next Generation went as far as borrowing matte paintings from Buck Rogers, which aired 8 years earlier.
2:40 RIP, Button Pushing Guy ... you had one job, and because you didn't push the button hard enough, your ship was lost ... never to be forgotten, Button Pushing Guy ...
The President of the Colonies, takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honorable Button Pushing to Button Pushing Guy, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action above and beyond the call of duty. Button Pushing Guy was the Button Pusher when his ship was assaulted by Cylon Raiders. Button Pushing Guy refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken.
in the script he's pushing the manual button for the fire suppression system for the fuel tanks as the automated system had failed to work.
@@cirian75
Really?
If that's true, that's pretty awesome!!
akin to the guy in Titanic, valiantly trying to keep the lights on..he finally wound up getting electrocuted..ouch. unimaginable amps..boom.
Button Pusher is a hero. He never left his post and pushed that button until the end. Slava Button Pusher.
Commander Cain would have told the President what he could go do with himself, and launched all Vipers.
Which Cain? To my recollection Cain was as much a badass in the original series which is why the Pegasus survived.
@@jeffburnham6611 the only Cain as far as I'm concerned is the one in the original Battlestar Galactica. That other show doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
@@BrotherDerrick3X agreed. That newer thing was a boring, ridiculous soap opera
@@BrotherDerrick3X Exactly! The One and Only Battlestar Galactica! 😎🤩👍 Frack GINO! 😡👎👎
Cain was supposed to be George Patton?
Who doesn’t love a good old death squadron. The president would have let them land and take over the ship.
Uma das melhores séries de TV de todos os tempos
Glad more stuff from the original show is on utube!
Each Battlestar hold 200 Hundred Vipers. There were according to Galactica s computer 1000 Cyclons fighters attacking the Colonial fleet . At end of battle Adama beautiful daughter said we have 68 Vipers left and 25 from their Battlestar.
The Colonial Fleet was really slack and got caught with their pants down. It is hard to believe Comnanders Adama and Cain are the only two tactical military officers in the fleet. 😬
useless trivia - the president was played by Lew Ayres, who also played the lead role, Paul, in the original (1930) version of All Quiet on the Western Front. He was a conscientious objector during WW2, but served as a medic under fire in the Pacific theater.
1:30 it is wonderful. Keep in mind that before The Empire Strikes Back, before Return of the Jedi and also on TV show!!!
Wauuu mi programa favorito de mi infancia¡¡ My favourite TV show of the childhood¡¡¡
Battlestar Galactica en español GALACTICA ASTRONAVE DE COMBATE recuerdo qe lo daban los sábados a las 8pm en el canal 4, todo eso lo recuerdo...
The real Battlestar
Request please back 'orginal' series...one of the best ....great ships on both side...😮
AH HA 3:34 I've been listening to that background radio chatter for years trying to discern which Battlestar was the next to go. "This the ......... We're on fire. Abandoning ship. Request shuttles to--" But Adama's baritone was always too strong to hear through. The name of the Battlestar is given in the exact second as Adama says "withdrawing."
The fan transcripts say its "Triton," but after repeating that one second over and over, I finally caught the last syllable of the radio as "...iss"
Its the Acropolis.
Acropolis died next, leaving 50/50 as to the Triton or Pacifica as the last survivor.
I don’t understand how the producers of Star Wars tried to make a case against Battlestar Galactica saying they got copied. The stories are vastly different and the special effects are not the same as Star Wars
When you rip off other people, you think people are ripping you off too.
well, one might argue the Viper looks kind of an X-Wing with one wing cut of...maybe because of the red stripes..
One would think that Adama would have shared his suspicions with the CO'S of the other Battlestars, found a few who agreed, alerted them when his patrol came under attack and "forgotten" tell them about the president's orders to stand down.
Of course, this was the 1970s.
As a member of the quorum he made his appeal directly to the president after Apollo's return and the loss of his youngest son Zach. After the refusal to act by the president Adama had a battle stations drill and left the ship on yellow alert. Why they were able to get their Vipers off.
@@gapratt4955 It been years since I saw the pilot for the Classic Battlestar Galactica, but as I recall, after a meeting of the governing counsel in which some things were explained to the audience, Adama told the president that he thought trusting Baltar was a bad idea, even before Appollo and Zack had set out on patrol. When they found the ambush, Zack's viper when damaged and couldn't keep up and they could not get a clear transmission back to the fleet, so Apollo headed back without him. When Adama learned that his patrol was under attack he asked the president for permission to send help, more than once I think, but the president, with Baltar at his side, forbade it. Adama got around the order by decided that it was a good time for a combat drill. Apollo landed on Galactica and was enroute to the bridge to report when they confirmed that Zack was being pursued and fired on by Cylon Raiders. Adama called up the president to inform him of this, the president turned to Baltar for an explanation only to find that Baltar had disappeared, then Kack's viper was shot down and the president asked what that was and Adama replied "That was my son, Mr. President."
Does that sound about right to you?
@@ethenallen1388 Spot on, from what I remember. Adama told the president that after the quorum meeting when the president invited Adama's opinion with "I see the party was not a success with all my children."
Well the whole government or Quorum was pretty corrupt I think. Like 1 of those members that Apollo found on a ship, living life like nothing happened.
I remember something in galactica 1980 the cylon took a bad reaction to a microwave turned on! Just think someone taking an early lunch would have saved the fleet! Only in sci fi!
This movie in the theaters in sensurround was amazing. Also saw earthquake and midway in sensurround. Missed rollercoaster in sensurround.
I just realized that the shields of a Battlestar were nothing more than heavy armor plating that is coated with low grade laser resistant materials. Looking at the design, those battleships had little armor on most of their outer hull. Still, they could take one Hell of a beating!
The landing bays were very venerable a major weakness
@@iantregale3215 They were really really old :D
@@iantregale3215 In the novels, the ships were more designed like the Jupiter Class Battlestars from the 2013 remake. And like those, the flight pods retracted when jumping or it was needed to prevent this sort of attack. According to the novels, Baltar's agent besides sabotaging the Colonies' defenses also sabotaged the majority of the system that retracted flight pods on the Battlestars. They covered every contingency they could think of except Adama's paranoia.
I have loved this show since the beginning. And I know the destruction of the other battlestars was necessary for the story but I'll never understand why the fleet didn't simple withdraw like the Galactica did. The raiders couldn't have kept up with them and they might have been able to save some of the Colonies.
One thing I never figured out...
Adama was a highly respected commander and member of The Quorum - why didn't he talk with the commanders of battlestars not named Atlantia and share his prep idea? Surely others would've gone along with it - it wasn't *technically* disobeying orders to "run a drill" or the like. Adama couldn't have been the only one to distrust the Cylons intentions.
I think it would've made it a better arc to have them sinply overwhelmed by sheer numbers, or perhaps sabotaged by Baltar, than just "everyone is stupid except Adama" ... I don't hate it , I just think it could've been even better.
Also: "Hey, Starbuck - it's dangerous around here!" (2 seconds later) (Starbuck's wingman has left the chat"
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@The Mystery Man thanks for the info - I've only seen a handful of deleted scenes.
I can understand why they perhaps pulled those scenes, because they make Adama look really bad, whereas the pilot spins it so that it is the president of the Colonies who appears at fault.
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Unfortunately that’s one of the points that really factors against the original. It’s a fine series but the Fall of the Twelve Colonies just didn’t feel right
Adar was listening to Baltar. He wanted to go down in history as the one who ended The Thousand Yahren War. Well, he did.
@@chrisstetsko5020 right, but that shouldn't have stopped Adama from (privately) talking to the commanders of the other battlestars there and expressing his concerns. At the very least, be in a similar state of readiness that Galactica was in.
There isn't evidence that happened, at least by the fact that every battlestar except AGalactica was caught with pants down when the Cylons started shooting.
There wasn't much Adama could do with Atlantia, with Adar aboard, but there were a number of other battlestars present. I can't imagine none of those other commanders wouldn't have shared Adama's skepticism about the Cylons.
@@tuxedotservo knowing how some commanders are, most of them are going to say, "But what does the president say? I'm not going against the president at the peace treaty."
That smart ass pilot who said “it’s dangerous around here” got what was coming to him
Isso que é filme bom! Quero assisti-lo! O remake da década de 2000 é bastante fiel e foi muito bom
Got to hand it to them! They filmed about 18 battle scenes they kept replying thru the whole series…. 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, you never wanted to be that second viper pilot in the background, or the one flying sort of down from one side of the screen and starting to curve back upward.
Or for that matter, the Cylon flying away from the Galactica's turbolaser and getting blasted in the top right corner of the screen.
There is a mountain of backstory missing, which they tried to slowly fill in during the series. The 04-09 remake made this entire scenario much more believable. Why did they fall for Baltars story? Why bring the whole fleet? What it came down to was that the colonies were losing. The war had lasted a millennium and President Adar and the rest of the council were desperate for an end, so they let their guard down. Baltar wanted to be an autocratic ruler in charge of his colony and saw his chance, of course the Cylons backstabbed him as anyone would imagine they would and then slit his throat (theatrical cut) The battle of Molokay was a major defeat for the colonies. The novelization of this story was interesting. There were only 6 Battlestars in the fleet and they were much larger. The Atlantia was described as a show ship, with heavy paneling and such. The part I could never understand was everyone not an hour later film time, willing to again throw away There defenses for a peace treaty with the Cylons, now that was stupid.
I didn't need it in the 70's but I definitely needed some minimal effort to build a believable universe by the 2000's. Loved both of them, at the time, for what they were.... but there really is no comparison side-by-side. One is amateurish across the board and the other isn't. We filled in the blanks across the backyards and down quiet streets.
INDEED SO
I never originally noticed how many times they launched Starbuck in the same sequence. Damn you budget constraints!!!!!
I could never understand how they could leave the landing bays opened or undefended during a attack. If they invested in a bay door, the fleet could have likely survive the attack.
In the novels, the ships were more designed like the Jupiter Class Battlestars from the 2013 remake. And like those, the flight pods retracted when jumping or it was needed to prevent this sort of attack. According to the novels, Baltar's agent besides sabotaging the Colonies' defenses also sabotaged the majority of the system that retracted flight pods on the Battlestars. They covered every contingency they could think of except Adama's paranoia.
@@danielhaire6677 2003, not 2013.
The Cylon Raiders were packed with Solenite. In effect, Kamikaze Raiders
If that question had been asked in the original pitch meeting, the answer would have been, "So the movie can happen!"
Keep in mind less time is between this show and the events of Pearl Harbor versus now and the show.
Sneak attack by fighters on a fleet while negotiating peace was still a painful wound.
Keep in mind we cut 90% of Japan's oil off 2 years before pearl harbor the globalist bankers wanted their war
@@thomaskelly336 Thats a fine conspiracy theory
@@robertmoore6149 history we cut 90% of Japan's oil supply we knew when that fleet left osaka
@@thomaskelly336 Well your first problem is dates. The gas and oil embargo by the US was established August 1st, 1941. Pearl Harbor was attacked Dec 7th, 1941. That is a little over 4 months, not 2 years.
@@thomaskelly336 Second of all. If one country doesnt want to trade, they shouldnt be beat up to be forced to trade. Third, Japan could and did secure the oil fields of Burma. So in all reality, the attack was nothing more than petty revenge for the various embargoes, policies of racial discrimination, and feeling of not being treated as an equal
Lol "hey Starbuck it's dangerous out here"..... Then get shot down.
If that guy had fired more and talked less, he'd be alive! :)
Starbuck was annoyed he didn't get to say his comeback in time.
A very bad time to get overconfident.
Famous last words for rookies & fools.
It wasn't him, that Viper pilot reappears later on when Starbuck and Apollo are driving on Carrilon
Loved the show a lot better then star trek or any sci fic shows !!!
I, for one, welcome our new Cylon overlords!
"By your command..."
NINNY THAT GUY WAS A TRAITOR AND MASS MURDERER DAMN' HIS BLOODY SOUL TO HELLFIIRE!
What a wonderful time to be a kid then. Glen Larson was a genius.
I had all these ships when I was a kid. They would shoot plastic red laser bolts. Oh to be a kid again.
I always thought that the original series had alot of myth and legend to it than the new series. The colonial citizens regarded the colonial warriors as the last defence of there worlds but here they struck down by the cylons the last battlestar left now a fight for survival a story for myth and legend the new series was like late 21centary humans 200.000 year's ago it doesn't have the same feel
It's hard to believe that all that power just sat there doing nothing. Could you imagine if they all fought to their potential , but that would have changed the whole story. I can still picture it though.
All the battle stars were destroyed because they had a President Biden to.
If the Galactica's long range detection systems were able the pick up the oncoming Cylon attack force, why didn't the commanders of the other Battlestars put their ships on alert? Another question. As Baltar set up this so-called peace conference, you mean to tell me that no one on the council of 12 questioned why all Battlestars needed to attend this event leaving their home world defenseless?
@The Mystery Man Accurate. In the zeal for peace..almost all was lost.
It's an old tactic..use cease fire agreements as a strategic, pre attack tool.
It was cos of that silly old fool 'President'Adar who forbade viper launching clearance!!!
I was under the understanding that each colony was represented by a Battlestar ..there were only 5 Battlestars in that fleet but at the beginning you see 12 leaders on the Atlantia with the president.Hence where are the other 7 Battlestars and that they all didn't get fighters airborne..Do t get me wrong
I loved that show.. but the 2004 BSG had much better premise with the defense mainfra. infected with a virus
So why didn't the cylon raiders take evasive action whenever a viper was behind them,? IN MOST CASES, 7 OR 8 RAIDERS WERE BLASTED BEFORE 1 VIPER!
The Commanders of the other Battlestars were not on Duty becuase there was a Peace treaty to be signed. Commander Adama didn't believe or trust the Cylons and kept the Galactica on alert until the Peace treaty was signed which it never happened and the Cylons attacked.
I think the original BSG would have faired better if they had stuck to more moments like this. It was the goofy "lite/silly" stuff that doomed the show. Cheese killed it.
The cheese had a charm to it sometimes. Even then, it was still more serious than the 1980 sequel series. That show is non-canon, in my opinion.
2:42 Yeah! That's right negative shield now! While your Battlestar is still under cylon attack. Adama are you crazy? Close the shutters before debris hits that window or a Cylon fires at it. Just to watch the President's ship blow up? 2:46 in middle right side of the video, look at that guy run. I mean the President is having trouble holding onto the railing, but this guy has no trouble running???
Commander Caine of the Pegasus was one who knew never to trust the cylons and kept attacking Gomorrah around the clock strikes so that they couldn't unleash fully strength upon his ship and crew
The stories of the other Battlestar's will only be known to each of our imaginations. I was aboard The Triton. Destroyed by sneak attack at the peace conference. BSG forever.
I always said that the BATTLESTAR TRITON was arguably the last Battlestar to be destroyed! (Unless you believe that the Pegasus was destroyed too).
The last movie in theaters in Sensurround, When the Atlantia blew up it was so loud. Some critiques as I re-watched years later. The back story was missing, which was in the novelization. The problem with this is that it makes the humans look like the biggest bunch of nitwits ever. How could you trust the Cylons, how could you not be prepared. Now the early 2000's reboot did a great job of reinventing the story to be more plausible. Especially by dialing back some of the tech. The original backstory that is missing is the humans had been at war with the Cylons for 1000 years, they had been beat down and were in a bad position after losing the battle of Molikay - referenced in the episodes with Lloyd Bridges as Commander Cain. So a sort of desperation had set in.
Is it just me or is the original more futuristic than the modern version
The Galactica spaceship decided to get away from that unequal battle, so as not to be an accomplice or victim of that massacre that the Cylon machines had planned against humanity. He was moving quickly towards the colonies but not even that advantage could prevent the machines from attacking the human colonies.
What would the Galactica do once she got there? Alone with no fighters against 3 base ships and their fighters. Maybe try to draw them away from the colonies?
Saw this at a drive-in just before broadcast.
1:48 ... They were quite fortunate that a guy holding a fire extinguisher just happened to be standing in front of the wall when it suddenly exploded into flames.
Coolest show ever when you're 10.
I really wish they would do a Battlestar remake using the original mythology
Agreed, the reimagined reboot was okay, but there's a lot of things that I had issues with about that version, while Boomer and Starbuck getting gender-swapped were amongst them, there's things I disliked more than that, such as doing away with the original dialogue with exception to the swear word "Frack"
@@karlsmith2570 Yeah, I was really pissed they did away with "Felgarcarb"
@@GrnXnham You and me both
It really wasn't that great a mythology to begin with. The bad guy they encountered (who created the Cylons?) was the narrator for the series, saying "There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe.... Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens."
That's total rubbish, but they made it true for the revised series.
@@sandal_thong8631 Unlike other TV shows like Buck Rogers, where he falls asleep for 500 years in space and then comes back to Earth and everyone is still disco dancing--definitely NOT "total rubbish."
A mis primos y mi nos gustaba ver mucho está serie nos gustaba también jugar con las naves las pistolas mis primos tenían los juguetes
@4:08 Ed Begley, Jr. Even though he had a tiny part, his name stuck in my memory, so I recognized it in other movies/shows in ensuing years.
There's no shortage of cheese in the original series, but it took television in new directions for a while.
Back in the day when battlestars did not have an effective Point defense system