Love the content marcus. Taking a gap year before grad school and I've been just very depressed and lost lately. Former MLB in hs and the content always gives me something to think about when watching ball every Sunday.
When It comes to Jordan Love's play style, he is quite literally a love child of Favre and Rodgers. Obviously he doesn't have nearly the same resume, but as a Packers fan I subconsciously put every play he makes, good or bad, somewhere on a sliding scale from Favre to Rodgers, Gunslinger to Surgeon.
He’s nothing if not fun to watch! Still think that second half Jordan this past week was ridiculous even with the inaccuracy and terrible interception decision. Important to also note that he hasn’t been doing many live goes with the receivers and he’s still gotta get on the same page with a still super young WR core. Felt that with the second int hardcore.
Watching Geno Smith and Jared Goff duel it out in a shootout on MNF was so cool. Two awesome comeback stories and pioneers of the forgotten QB revenge tour over the past 2-3 years!
So tragic as a chargers fan to see the defense suddenly being good and now the offense can't pick up first downs. Makes me wonder how last year could've gone without Staley.
I mean the offense has dobbins and Johnston. That's all the Oline is injured. Herbert's overrated but the team has failed to add talent at receiver to take advantage of his best ability being deep shots
Geno should've been a 1st round pick in his draft. It was crazy that Buffalo picked EJ Manuel over him. One is out of the league, the other is a top 10 QB in the league. He flashed way more than EJ in college.
Love the Geno bit. I think you underrate the significance of the role racism still plays in QB evaluation. It’s nowhere near as bad as it’s been but there is is a difference in how we treat young white vs black QBs
Packers fan here (if you couldn’t tell) Loved you’re breakdown of last weeks game. It felt like we went through the whole progression of last year in four quarters. Frustrated with us but super optimistic that we can clean this up and get back on our feet.
I see what Jayden was going for on that pick. He should have taken the underneath throw to his RB, but he got greedy and tried to get it to Terry Mclaurin, but he threw the ball a bit too late. Not the best decision, but it was there. He knew what he did wrong and remained clean through the rest of the game.
Hopefully you'll wake up on the Jets soon. Saleh is simply not the answer at HC. No accountability for being the most penalized team in the league, no adjustments when the team struggles, from Hackett or Saleh. It doesn't matter if Rodgers gets into his 2011 form. The Jets are not a legitimate SB contender with their coaching staff
I think the Vikes could reveal that this week. They will be looking for a bounce back game and will nearly have their whole offence ready, and their pass rush should cause problems for that leaky Jets O Line, and slow af QB. It could turn ugly.
The clock is ticking for the Jaguars, if this continues, they're due for a blowout loss like the Chargers had against the Raiders last year. They might not concede 63 points, but I could see some of the players mailing it in.
You're a 1000% right that josh allen sideline throw is one of the best throws I've ever seen I felt like hes done that now a few times in his career... my boy said the same thing about Jalen hurts but he said siriani ran the same offensive sets as they did in the playoffs against the same team and expected different results
A GB tackle (Zach Tom) being a lighter, less athletic, technically gifted tackle. Who got overlooked in the draft and fell to Green Bay in the 4th round. Who is not only outperforming his draft status, but so far the best tackle in his draft class. I’ve never seen that happen in greenbay before (cough cough David Bahkiari).
Imagine the world where the Bengals don't trade for Trey Hendrickson, betrayed it for a younger Marcus Davenport and the Saints extend Hendrickson.... They got so disgustingly lucky with the Hendrickson signing.
I understand that Dennis Allen, Nick Siranni, and Mike McCarthy they deserve criticism they aren’t good coaches but why isn’t Mike McDaniel getting any criticism he supposed to be an offensive genius he isn’t. He’s lost the locker room IMO. The Dolphins aren’t a physical and tough team at all. I think Mike McDaniel is the third best coach on the team behind Anthony Weaver and Frank Smith.
This is what I’m saying, like it’s his fault for building a hyper specific offense around an injury prone QB. Plenty of other offensive geniuses that he gets talked about with have no problems finding success with backup QB’s so I don’t understand why he gets left off the hook when he should’ve already been planning ahead for Tua to miss a few weeks based on his injury history
I saw a cover four blitz playing cfb25 and was all pissed cuz i thought no one would actually dare to run such a thing but now I find out Flores is doing that. Definitely some Belichick type shit
With how high scoring the Monday night game was and the Thursday night game was last night, I’m wondering if offenses are going to rebound in a big way this week
3:25:40 what did you cut out about Latham? Lmao. Titans fans are looking for any victory laps tbf. Twitter titan fans are the worst, and there have not been many positives to go around lately
Marcus Im with you on Hurts. Hurts me a lot as an Eagles fan. But one thing I will say is I don’t think you should call the first play a bad miss by Hurts.. could have set his feet, but I just don’t think he has the arm strength to even make that throw on the run.. not all NFL qb’s do. Also, in your upcoming Hurts video I’d love for you to breakdown how many times Jahan Dotson is getting open, but Hurts doesn’t look his way. He seems to be running explosive routes, but for some odd reason Hurts only trusts AJ, Devonta and Goedert.. won’t make tight window throws to ANY other receiver
As an eagles fan everything you said about Hurts hits. It seems like every single thing that goes wrong on offense comes back to him this year 🤦🏾♂️ I can’t believe we’re doing the Carson Wentz thing again
How do you watch all the games throughout the week? is it just using NFL+ and watching the 40 minute version or is it watching them on sunday ticket? I want to watch as much football as possible trying to figure out the most effective strategy
Genuinely asking, why are you off on Antonio Pierce, but still not competely done with Robert Saleh? Is that week 1 punt really that much of a deal breaker for you? You're usually much more level headed. And maybe you have a point on Pierce. But I don't see what has been so bad about him compared to coaches who have built weak cultures (McDaniel in Miami, Saleh in NY, even Daboll)
Agreed, AP deserves plenty of flak for that punt but not sure if it should be held against him for the entire season. Since then, he’s been aggressive in those situations.
I think it’s because Saleh is a great defensive mind, whereas Pierce does not bring a schematic advantage to his team. This means the only value he brings as a head coach is in his locker room culture.
@@AvtomatKalashnikova-oe3hq Saleh is. "such a great defensive mind" yet he doesn't even call plays. He can certainly develop players but "the culture" is not existent in NY
Let's be clear the Packers offence made one TD drive on the Vikes D in the 28 minutes that the game was live. One TD drive was 3 yards after the muffed punt. Another came from the forced fumble. The last one with time on the clock was irrelevant and only occurred because Aaron Jones and Sherfield mixed up their blocking assignment on the 4th and 1 jet sweep, that basically would have finished the game at 31-22, or even 38-22 it it had got home.
@@masoncrooks813 Sure, but no one is arguing that the Vikes have cracked the Packers D. The premise folks are advancing is that the Packers comeback suggests that they might have cracked the Flores scheme. Probably not.
It was a 6 pt game with 10 minutes left in the game 😂 Vikings fans are the only fans in the world who have to make excuses for winning. Idk how close you actually watched the Vikings defense, but they weren’t doing anything uncharacteristic the entire second half. They still stopped the packers offense more than not, and were still disguising coverages the exact same way they have whether the score was 28-7 or 28-22.
@@justinrenaud4818 That's right, and the Vikes had the ball, and scored again restoring the 2 score lead. The Packers never had the ball with a chance to take the lead. It wasn't close. The Packers offence only made one scoring drive against that D in 28 minutes. I'd say that D was pretty effective. Very short fields from a ST and offensive errors aren't an indictment on, or solution to, the defence. And the game was over for the last one. It was literally part of the last rites, which were only delayed because of a blocking mix up. And btw, were not making excuses for winning, just trying to help out a few delusional Packers fans that think they had a chance. Maybe Packers fans are just avoiding thinking about a trap game at the Rams, who are starting to get healthy?
It's an absolute travesty that Suh is not on a roster in todays NFL, he's still a top run defender imagine teams like the bills who have their pass rushing DT but no 1 tech signing Suh, or the cowboys who can't stop shit, he was working out with vea in the offseason and is largely responsible for why vea is graded so high as a pass rusher this year
Ive thought that Breece Hall has looked weird all year. This was certainly the worst full game, and of course he's had good moments here and there. But ive noticed in every game so far, he just seems a little confused? Im not sure how to explain it, it feels like he doesnt know whats going on half the time unless its a straight handoff. Im no offensive or RB savant so i dont know what it is or what im seeing. I know for sure he hasnt looked like a dynamic, versatile offensive weapon. Perhaps we annointed him too soon? Maybe everything Rogers is doing at the line is just confusing the hell out of him. Maybe the blocking is terrible i havent really went and looked at how they are doing.
Haha, Sam Darnold's ghosts are sure having a field day in many analysts heads. So many missed his gradual improvement with the Panthers and are so very, very desperate for their pre-conceptions to come true. Meanwhile other can't miss and feted prospects - Kyler, TLaw, Hurts and co, seem to miss the pumpkin treatment. Not Sam's best game for sure with a couple of execution errors like getting play calls in etc, one or two decisions everyone could second guess, but can we please judge all QBs by the same standard. Darnold has now clearly outplayed Purdy, Stroud and Love in consecutive weeks - guys in their 3rd, 2nd and 5th seasons with their teams. Darnold has had 4 months and 4 games with this coach, playbook and playmakers. Everyone expecting pumpkins might do well to consider how much better this offence will get when Sam is locked in and has all his weapons. And with 10-12 new faces on the defensive rotation, might want to extend that scope for improvement to whatever they're doing now too. We're probably watching this Vikes team closer to their floor than their ceiling.
Press Taylor has not been mentioned yet and I am not sure why. When Doug was calling plays we were good. He takes over last year and stuff goes down and the offense looks way worse. But Doug just insists on letting him call games. Pathetic. As for Trevor, it feels like he is just getting worse at things he was good at in the past. Odd stuff.
I think they all gotta go. Everything is off. It's not even a situation where you can say we'll if this one thing was better, no nearly everything is bad. Sucks to see really, that's such a fun team. I don't agree with their team building strategy of just collecting athletes and hoping it creates good football but it does make them fun to watch when it's working.
@@JaredTG. Yeah the whole stuff needs to go. They have broken Trevor and I hope it isn't permanent bc he was so good 1st half of last year and 2nd half of 2022.
This laisezz-faire system they have with Doug Pederson being hands-off is gonna kill us, his whole demeanor has changed. I'm under the impression that he was talked to about letting things be and clearly it's not working and we need something to happen, either go nuclear and let everyone go or work with the semblance of talent we have and genuinely put time into correcting basic fundamental mistakes
@@ledgnr197gaming5 I doubt he'd be broken forever. Unfortunately for jags fans I could see him going the way of geno or darnold tho and having a later career flourish
@@zadaziri6584 difference between him and people like Darnold or Geno is that he has played damn near elite in the league before. Just looks off this year and I don't want Doug to make this into a Wentz situation.
Thanks for all the work that goes into these. I think you’re being a little too harsh on Darnolds game. That dropped pick to start the game the defender followed his man out of bounds and came back in last minute. Obviously a turnover worthy play but I think 99% of QBs don’t see him out of bounds like that. The bad read that did go for an int was pretty clearly forcing a ball to AJ to get him a TD in his old stadium on what could be their last scoring drive of the game. Obviously mistakes that should be noted but I don’t think they are examples of the “old Darnold” peaking his head. The strip sack being the exception because you’re right he was oblivious to that blitz.
The strip sack might have been structural, JT O'Sullivan suggested that the RB was set too high, and KOC alluded to it in a presser, saying they discounted the defender coming from that far away. Easily fixed.
@@cartervoss9126 100%. And it's not like they were physical errors. Trent Sherfield was successfully blocking the CB on the 4th and 1 sweep at the end, then went to hand him over and go to the next widest man, but Jones was already going to the wider man. One of them went to block the wrong guy. If they both blocked the right guy, Nailor get's the yard easy, if not the TD so the score finishes 31-22 or 38-22 and the Packers fans would be moaning about something completely different. Skol!
He's still Darnold. He didn't have an epiphany & then all his muscle memory evaporated allowing him to start all over. Traumatic experiences implant themselves in one's subconscious. Look at how fields played in the preseason. Bouncing on the balls of his feet unable to find any calm. Looking to run first, open receivers 2nd. He's not _on_ the Bears anymore. But because of ruclips.net/video/FiiK21VzI_o/видео.html (the 1st 23 minutes are more than enough) having to be on non-stop alert every second, his subconscious remains on lookout. Only this past game did he genuinely seem like he's not doing that anymore & sure enough, he needed that back. But he didn't get this way _until_ '23. So Darnold said Purdy showed him some things & yeah, he's doing them. But the old ghosts are still there as are his tendencies to throw INTs. Those things didn't disappear. They're part of him. He didn't get to exorcise those things yet. To do that, he has to play, feel those memories bubble up & handle them when they do. So far, he's been pressured for one half of one game & a lot of it came right back. Not saying this is permanent. Just saying we're likely to see more of this over the next couple of games.
@@ChewsCarefully Firstly - muscle memory doesn't actually exist. Muscles don't have memory, only your brain does. Sure, Darnold made progress at the 49ers, when he was able to sit, but he also made significant progress before that at the Panthers. He went 8-9 there in two seasons, particularly in 2022, his 5th season, when he started to cut down his INTs. Every QB has a tendency to throw INTs under pressure - that is not a Darnold specific thing. Cousins actually threw more INTs than TDs in his first 3 seasons at Washington, but he got that under control in his 4th year. No one seems to worry that Cousins had worse start at Washington than Darnold did at the Jets. This season Sam has currently thrown fewer INTs than Mahomes, Goff, Cousins, Hurts, Love, and Geno, and has faced the toughest schedule of anyone. I don't understand why everyone seems to measure Darnold by a different standard than everyone else, and scrutinise every potential interception, and not do this to other QBs Sam has been throwing the ball as accurately as Cousins and Rodgers through for the last two and a half seasons that they've played (2021, 2022, 2024) with almost identical throws on target% and bad throws % as both of them, fewer bad throws than Rodgers this season (per Pro Football Reference). And what tendencies bubbled back up under pressure? The only times I remember Darnold being under pressure - early in the 4th quarter vs the 49ers, and Packers at 28-22, Sam has in Mahomes like fashion driven the ball flawlessly up the field for game clinching FGs. He did it with his WR3, WR4, WR5, TE3 and RB2 vs the 49ers. As for panicking - instead of running back into a sack when a play broke down like week 2 and 3, in week 4 he took off and ran for a couple of first downs. Instead of trying a random toss over Jones head when a there was a mix up in the back field, he surrendered and accepted a sack. So, I think exactly the opposite of what you suggest is happening. The "old tendencies" aren't reoccurring, they're being replaced by different and safer responses. I'd suggest that there are so many people that were completely wrong about Sam, that are so desperate to be proven right, that Sam's ghosts are in their heads, not his. I'm sure y'all will get bored with looking for his pumpkin moment as he leads the Vikes from victory to victory. Skol!
Why not get Reddick? Well , why isn't he playing for the Jets? If he isn't playing without a long term contract for the Jets, is he gonna play for LV? Should Vegas even pay him? 30+, reminds me of Chandler Jones, in a bad way
No matter how bad a defense can be, as long as your offense is good, everybody will praise the team😂 offense league, and it makes sense. At the end of the day, it's who scores more points. Thats why chicago bears are ass😂 always good defenses, but mediocre and shit offenses😂
Lions have been shit on the first 3 weeks cause our offence wasn't lights out. They finally are and all the sudden the defence is trash after finally giving up more than 21 pts 😂 so I feel you.
Love the content marcus. Taking a gap year before grad school and I've been just very depressed and lost lately. Former MLB in hs and the content always gives me something to think about when watching ball every Sunday.
What did you get your bachelor’s in and what are you planning to get your masters in?
Hope everything’s going okay. Please don’t hesitate to reach out to a loved one if you need it. You’re not alone 🫶🏼
Hang in there champ 💪.
Keep your head up bro!
hope things get better man. I know a lot of us in a rut right now. It happens. Hoping better days for you
When It comes to Jordan Love's play style, he is quite literally a love child of Favre and Rodgers. Obviously he doesn't have nearly the same resume, but as a Packers fan I subconsciously put every play he makes, good or bad, somewhere on a sliding scale from Favre to Rodgers, Gunslinger to Surgeon.
He’s definitely fun to watch!
He’s nothing if not fun to watch! Still think that second half Jordan this past week was ridiculous even with the inaccuracy and terrible interception decision. Important to also note that he hasn’t been doing many live goes with the receivers and he’s still gotta get on the same page with a still super young WR core. Felt that with the second int hardcore.
Watching Geno Smith and Jared Goff duel it out in a shootout on MNF was so cool. Two awesome comeback stories and pioneers of the forgotten QB revenge tour over the past 2-3 years!
I swear in a few years these things are going to be like 20 hours long 😂😂😂. Love the work Marcus!
They’ve slowly gone from like 1 hr 20 to this 😂 not that I’m complaining lol this is the some of the best football content out there
So tragic as a chargers fan to see the defense suddenly being good and now the offense can't pick up first downs. Makes me wonder how last year could've gone without Staley.
I mean the offense has dobbins and Johnston. That's all the Oline is injured. Herbert's overrated but the team has failed to add talent at receiver to take advantage of his best ability being deep shots
UsRaven fans tried to warn yall about Greg Roman. Dude cannot scheme a passing game to save his life, and can't make adjustments when his stuff fails
Geno should've been a 1st round pick in his draft. It was crazy that Buffalo picked EJ Manuel over him. One is out of the league, the other is a top 10 QB in the league. He flashed way more than EJ in college.
Love the Geno bit. I think you underrate the significance of the role racism still plays in QB evaluation. It’s nowhere near as bad as it’s been but there is is a difference in how we treat young white vs black QBs
100%
Best football series on RUclips, besides your deep dives 👌
Injuries are already stacking up for Buffalo’s defense, Milano, Bernard, Taron Johnson, Taylor Rapp, it’s a struggle
Packers fan here (if you couldn’t tell) Loved you’re breakdown of last weeks game. It felt like we went through the whole progression of last year in four quarters. Frustrated with us but super optimistic that we can clean this up and get back on our feet.
I see what Jayden was going for on that pick. He should have taken the underneath throw to his RB, but he got greedy and tried to get it to Terry Mclaurin, but he threw the ball a bit too late. Not the best decision, but it was there. He knew what he did wrong and remained clean through the rest of the game.
loving the content marcus! i was only able to catch half of the deep dives but always make the weekly podcast a priority, great work!
Hopefully you'll wake up on the Jets soon. Saleh is simply not the answer at HC. No accountability for being the most penalized team in the league, no adjustments when the team struggles, from Hackett or Saleh.
It doesn't matter if Rodgers gets into his 2011 form. The Jets are not a legitimate SB contender with their coaching staff
I think the Vikes could reveal that this week. They will be looking for a bounce back game and will nearly have their whole offence ready, and their pass rush should cause problems for that leaky Jets O Line, and slow af QB. It could turn ugly.
I really hate to burst your bubble, but lovecraftian is already a word lol
Well aware haha, using it as a reference
Not gonna lie what was funny to me was how goffs perfect game was able to keep going due to an opi taking away a missed throw
The clock is ticking for the Jaguars, if this continues, they're due for a blowout loss like the Chargers had against the Raiders last year. They might not concede 63 points, but I could see some of the players mailing it in.
You're a 1000% right that josh allen sideline throw is one of the best throws I've ever seen I felt like hes done that now a few times in his career... my boy said the same thing about Jalen hurts but he said siriani ran the same offensive sets as they did in the playoffs against the same team and expected different results
I keep trying to watch this getting distracted forgetting where i was and watching it over 💀
A GB tackle (Zach Tom) being a lighter, less athletic, technically gifted tackle. Who got overlooked in the draft and fell to Green Bay in the 4th round. Who is not only outperforming his draft status, but so far the best tackle in his draft class. I’ve never seen that happen in greenbay before (cough cough David Bahkiari).
Imagine the world where the Bengals don't trade for Trey Hendrickson, betrayed it for a younger Marcus Davenport and the Saints extend Hendrickson.... They got so disgustingly lucky with the Hendrickson signing.
I understand that Dennis Allen, Nick Siranni, and Mike McCarthy they deserve criticism they aren’t good coaches but why isn’t Mike McDaniel getting any criticism he supposed to be an offensive genius he isn’t. He’s lost the locker room IMO. The Dolphins aren’t a physical and tough team at all. I think Mike McDaniel is the third best coach on the team behind Anthony Weaver and Frank Smith.
They’ll give McDaniel a break with no tua running that motion offense
This is what I’m saying, like it’s his fault for building a hyper specific offense around an injury prone QB. Plenty of other offensive geniuses that he gets talked about with have no problems finding success with backup QB’s so I don’t understand why he gets left off the hook when he should’ve already been planning ahead for Tua to miss a few weeks based on his injury history
Dennis Allen may be shit as a head coach but he's a good defensive coach
yeah uh after this week im starting to wonder if we were all correct when we ripped the cardinals to shreds for hiring Jonathan Gannon
Nice recap, also definitely looking forward to the Jalen Hurts video!
W content, thank you as always for the great analysis
I saw a cover four blitz playing cfb25 and was all pissed cuz i thought no one would actually dare to run such a thing but now I find out Flores is doing that. Definitely some Belichick type shit
It would be a fun video for you to go over genos jets tape as he predates your channel and you would really be watching with a fresh set of eyes
I’ll give Shane Waldron credit he finally called a good game and didn’t ask Caleb Williams to be the hero
Amazing what happens when you don’t put the entire game on a young QBs shoulders!
Did you see that Rodgers pulled a hamstring late? He wasn’t the same guy in the 4th quarter
as a cowboys fan could not be more excited for the jalen hurts vid 😁😁😁
Todd Bowles is to jalen hurts who Brian flores is to Kyle Shanahan
When is studs and duds coming out
With how high scoring the Monday night game was and the Thursday night game was last night, I’m wondering if offenses are going to rebound in a big way this week
I have a hot take I don’t think you can be a dynasty without being a defensive team
Multiple things. Good defence and a franchise top 5 QB. Usually, it has a goat HC, too
have you heard of the green bay packers by chance?
3:25:40 what did you cut out about Latham? Lmao. Titans fans are looking for any victory laps tbf. Twitter titan fans are the worst, and there have not been many positives to go around lately
The saddest part is when it ended
You are right that Bradbury is banged up. He has been playing through injuries for 2 or 3 weeks now.
Knew I wasn't crazy!
Marcus Im with you on Hurts. Hurts me a lot as an Eagles fan. But one thing I will say is I don’t think you should call the first play a bad miss by Hurts.. could have set his feet, but I just don’t think he has the arm strength to even make that throw on the run.. not all NFL qb’s do. Also, in your upcoming Hurts video I’d love for you to breakdown how many times Jahan Dotson is getting open, but Hurts doesn’t look his way. He seems to be running explosive routes, but for some odd reason Hurts only trusts AJ, Devonta and Goedert.. won’t make tight window throws to ANY other receiver
As an eagles fan everything you said about Hurts hits. It seems like every single thing that goes wrong on offense comes back to him this year 🤦🏾♂️ I can’t believe we’re doing the Carson Wentz thing again
PLEASE HELP ME SOLVE MY BRAIN ITCH...WHAT IS THE INTRO FROM?
Still u underrating geno. He’s playing top 5 man.
How do you watch all the games throughout the week? is it just using NFL+ and watching the 40 minute version or is it watching them on sunday ticket? I want to watch as much football as possible trying to figure out the most effective strategy
Condensed games on NFL+!
Jalen Hurts is turning into Wentz 2.0 with the turnovers honestly Wentz was better than Hurts and had less help around him
Strange ending to podcast love it though
All power rankings do is show how inaccurate people's pre-season preconceptions are. Another three weeks and all the kinks should have worked out.
What do you think about a fresh start straight swap Jalen Hurts for Trevor Lawrence?
Genuinely asking, why are you off on Antonio Pierce, but still not competely done with Robert Saleh? Is that week 1 punt really that much of a deal breaker for you? You're usually much more level headed.
And maybe you have a point on Pierce. But I don't see what has been so bad about him compared to coaches who have built weak cultures (McDaniel in Miami, Saleh in NY, even Daboll)
Agreed, AP deserves plenty of flak for that punt but not sure if it should be held against him for the entire season. Since then, he’s been aggressive in those situations.
@@SoloMojo222agreed. Also I've seen Saleh do punts like that for 3 years, and I'm pretty sure he did it again in the last few weeks
I think it’s because Saleh is a great defensive mind, whereas Pierce does not bring a schematic advantage to his team. This means the only value he brings as a head coach is in his locker room culture.
@@AvtomatKalashnikova-oe3hq Saleh is. "such a great defensive mind" yet he doesn't even call plays. He can certainly develop players but "the culture" is not existent in NY
Let's be clear the Packers offence made one TD drive on the Vikes D in the 28 minutes that the game was live. One TD drive was 3 yards after the muffed punt. Another came from the forced fumble. The last one with time on the clock was irrelevant and only occurred because Aaron Jones and Sherfield mixed up their blocking assignment on the 4th and 1 jet sweep, that basically would have finished the game at 31-22, or even 38-22 it it had got home.
You could say the same thing about some of the Vikings TD drives 🤷
@@masoncrooks813 Sure, but no one is arguing that the Vikes have cracked the Packers D. The premise folks are advancing is that the Packers comeback suggests that they might have cracked the Flores scheme. Probably not.
It was a 6 pt game with 10 minutes left in the game 😂 Vikings fans are the only fans in the world who have to make excuses for winning. Idk how close you actually watched the Vikings defense, but they weren’t doing anything uncharacteristic the entire second half. They still stopped the packers offense more than not, and were still disguising coverages the exact same way they have whether the score was 28-7 or 28-22.
@@justinrenaud4818 That's right, and the Vikes had the ball, and scored again restoring the 2 score lead. The Packers never had the ball with a chance to take the lead. It wasn't close.
The Packers offence only made one scoring drive against that D in 28 minutes. I'd say that D was pretty effective.
Very short fields from a ST and offensive errors aren't an indictment on, or solution to, the defence.
And the game was over for the last one. It was literally part of the last rites, which were only delayed because of a blocking mix up.
And btw, were not making excuses for winning, just trying to help out a few delusional Packers fans that think they had a chance. Maybe Packers fans are just avoiding thinking about a trap game at the Rams, who are starting to get healthy?
It's an absolute travesty that Suh is not on a roster in todays NFL, he's still a top run defender imagine teams like the bills who have their pass rushing DT but no 1 tech signing Suh, or the cowboys who can't stop shit, he was working out with vea in the offseason and is largely responsible for why vea is graded so high as a pass rusher this year
Ive thought that Breece Hall has looked weird all year. This was certainly the worst full game, and of course he's had good moments here and there. But ive noticed in every game so far, he just seems a little confused? Im not sure how to explain it, it feels like he doesnt know whats going on half the time unless its a straight handoff. Im no offensive or RB savant so i dont know what it is or what im seeing. I know for sure he hasnt looked like a dynamic, versatile offensive weapon. Perhaps we annointed him too soon? Maybe everything Rogers is doing at the line is just confusing the hell out of him. Maybe the blocking is terrible i havent really went and looked at how they are doing.
With rice's knee exploding Chris Godwin is a top 3 yac threat right
Pfft, no. Chase, Lamb, DJ Moore. I'd put Njoku and Kittle before Godwin, too.
@@jeffredfern3744 he does currently lead the league in YAC
Luke Goedeke also hasn’t been playing 👀
Haha, Sam Darnold's ghosts are sure having a field day in many analysts heads. So many missed his gradual improvement with the Panthers and are so very, very desperate for their pre-conceptions to come true. Meanwhile other can't miss and feted prospects - Kyler, TLaw, Hurts and co, seem to miss the pumpkin treatment.
Not Sam's best game for sure with a couple of execution errors like getting play calls in etc, one or two decisions everyone could second guess, but can we please judge all QBs by the same standard.
Darnold has now clearly outplayed Purdy, Stroud and Love in consecutive weeks - guys in their 3rd, 2nd and 5th seasons with their teams. Darnold has had 4 months and 4 games with this coach, playbook and playmakers. Everyone expecting pumpkins might do well to consider how much better this offence will get when Sam is locked in and has all his weapons.
And with 10-12 new faces on the defensive rotation, might want to extend that scope for improvement to whatever they're doing now too.
We're probably watching this Vikes team closer to their floor than their ceiling.
Press Taylor has not been mentioned yet and I am not sure why. When Doug was calling plays we were good. He takes over last year and stuff goes down and the offense looks way worse. But Doug just insists on letting him call games. Pathetic.
As for Trevor, it feels like he is just getting worse at things he was good at in the past. Odd stuff.
I think they all gotta go. Everything is off. It's not even a situation where you can say we'll if this one thing was better, no nearly everything is bad. Sucks to see really, that's such a fun team. I don't agree with their team building strategy of just collecting athletes and hoping it creates good football but it does make them fun to watch when it's working.
@@JaredTG. Yeah the whole stuff needs to go. They have broken Trevor and I hope it isn't permanent bc he was so good 1st half of last year and 2nd half of 2022.
This laisezz-faire system they have with Doug Pederson being hands-off is gonna kill us, his whole demeanor has changed. I'm under the impression that he was talked to about letting things be and clearly it's not working and we need something to happen, either go nuclear and let everyone go or work with the semblance of talent we have and genuinely put time into correcting basic fundamental mistakes
@@ledgnr197gaming5 I doubt he'd be broken forever. Unfortunately for jags fans I could see him going the way of geno or darnold tho and having a later career flourish
@@zadaziri6584 difference between him and people like Darnold or Geno is that he has played damn near elite in the league before. Just looks off this year and I don't want Doug to make this into a Wentz situation.
Thanks for all the work that goes into these.
I think you’re being a little too harsh on Darnolds game. That dropped pick to start the game the defender followed his man out of bounds and came back in last minute. Obviously a turnover worthy play but I think 99% of QBs don’t see him out of bounds like that. The bad read that did go for an int was pretty clearly forcing a ball to AJ to get him a TD in his old stadium on what could be their last scoring drive of the game.
Obviously mistakes that should be noted but I don’t think they are examples of the “old Darnold” peaking his head. The strip sack being the exception because you’re right he was oblivious to that blitz.
The strip sack might have been structural, JT O'Sullivan suggested that the RB was set too high, and KOC alluded to it in a presser, saying they discounted the defender coming from that far away. Easily fixed.
@@robe2504 we love correctable mistakes in wins, especially early in the season like this.
@@cartervoss9126 100%. And it's not like they were physical errors. Trent Sherfield was successfully blocking the CB on the 4th and 1 sweep at the end, then went to hand him over and go to the next widest man, but Jones was already going to the wider man. One of them went to block the wrong guy. If they both blocked the right guy, Nailor get's the yard easy, if not the TD so the score finishes 31-22 or 38-22 and the Packers fans would be moaning about something completely different. Skol!
He's still Darnold. He didn't have an epiphany & then all his muscle memory evaporated allowing him to start all over. Traumatic experiences implant themselves in one's subconscious. Look at how fields played in the preseason.
Bouncing on the balls of his feet unable to find any calm. Looking to run first, open receivers 2nd. He's not _on_ the Bears anymore. But because of ruclips.net/video/FiiK21VzI_o/видео.html (the 1st 23 minutes are more than enough) having to be on non-stop alert every second, his subconscious remains on lookout.
Only this past game did he genuinely seem like he's not doing that anymore & sure enough, he needed that back. But he didn't get this way _until_ '23. So Darnold said Purdy showed him some things & yeah, he's doing them.
But the old ghosts are still there as are his tendencies to throw INTs. Those things didn't disappear. They're part of him. He didn't get to exorcise those things yet. To do that, he has to play, feel those memories bubble up & handle them when they do. So far, he's been pressured for one half of one game & a lot of it came right back.
Not saying this is permanent. Just saying we're likely to see more of this over the next couple of games.
@@ChewsCarefully Firstly - muscle memory doesn't actually exist. Muscles don't have memory, only your brain does.
Sure, Darnold made progress at the 49ers, when he was able to sit, but he also made significant progress before that at the Panthers. He went 8-9 there in two seasons, particularly in 2022, his 5th season, when he started to cut down his INTs.
Every QB has a tendency to throw INTs under pressure - that is not a Darnold specific thing. Cousins actually threw more INTs than TDs in his first 3 seasons at Washington, but he got that under control in his 4th year. No one seems to worry that Cousins had worse start at Washington than Darnold did at the Jets. This season Sam has currently thrown fewer INTs than Mahomes, Goff, Cousins, Hurts, Love, and Geno, and has faced the toughest schedule of anyone.
I don't understand why everyone seems to measure Darnold by a different standard than everyone else, and scrutinise every potential interception, and not do this to other QBs
Sam has been throwing the ball as accurately as Cousins and Rodgers through for the last two and a half seasons that they've played (2021, 2022, 2024) with almost identical throws on target% and bad throws % as both of them, fewer bad throws than Rodgers this season (per Pro Football Reference).
And what tendencies bubbled back up under pressure? The only times I remember Darnold being under pressure - early in the 4th quarter vs the 49ers, and Packers at 28-22, Sam has in Mahomes like fashion driven the ball flawlessly up the field for game clinching FGs. He did it with his WR3, WR4, WR5, TE3 and RB2 vs the 49ers.
As for panicking - instead of running back into a sack when a play broke down like week 2 and 3, in week 4 he took off and ran for a couple of first downs. Instead of trying a random toss over Jones head when a there was a mix up in the back field, he surrendered and accepted a sack.
So, I think exactly the opposite of what you suggest is happening. The "old tendencies" aren't reoccurring, they're being replaced by different and safer responses.
I'd suggest that there are so many people that were completely wrong about Sam, that are so desperate to be proven right, that Sam's ghosts are in their heads, not his.
I'm sure y'all will get bored with looking for his pumpkin moment as he leads the Vikes from victory to victory.
Skol!
Why not get Reddick? Well , why isn't he playing for the Jets? If he isn't playing without a long term contract for the Jets, is he gonna play for LV?
Should Vegas even pay him? 30+, reminds me of Chandler Jones, in a bad way
Ah yeah.. Another hit!
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eagles doing the post superbowl thing again, except they lost this time
For the algorithm
No matter how bad a defense can be, as long as your offense is good, everybody will praise the team😂 offense league, and it makes sense. At the end of the day, it's who scores more points. Thats why chicago bears are ass😂 always good defenses, but mediocre and shit offenses😂
Lions have been shit on the first 3 weeks cause our offence wasn't lights out. They finally are and all the sudden the defence is trash after finally giving up more than 21 pts 😂 so I feel you.
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