If you had any sort of comprehension skills you would have heard that they spoke to each other behind the Hummer by themselves....so only the two of them know if he was actually going to the car for a gun.
@@orentajarreau4392 so refreshing to know there are reasonable people out there. Cardell got rear ended, by a drunken, angry man who was about to get his weapon.
I no longer engage when people get crazy with me on the road. I just let it go. I have a life. I lose absolutely nothing because some stranger in his car insulted me, "punked me" or whatever. Just let it go and think about your life. You will never see these crazy people again after a few seconds. If it is a hit and run, just get the plate #. There are a lot of unstable people that will shoot over anything. Stay safe, and blessed
Late response: But yes, you are correct. Especially in Chicago where they are killing people in mass on the expressway for road rage. I beep my horn and keep it moving. My life is too important to me to get crazy over somebody cutting me off in traffic
The fact that the shooters friend tries to say he's friend was calm if he was calm he wouldn't of ram into smiths car after smith tried to leave the scene i think that made everything worst
Yall are blind and biased. Will Smith ran into him! Will Smith was the one who got out acting aggressively! Will Smith’s vehicle was also MISSING a rear license plate! Cardell couldn’t simply get the license plate and turn the information over to the Police! If this was Rashee Rice or Jon Jones some of you would see the hypocritical double standard 🤦🏽♂️
@@cedricbeard4609your responses are garbage dude two wrongs do not make a right just because a mf rear ends you that doesn’t mean fucking slam into the back of the car and make everything so much worse. Will smith acted aggressively after being rammed. Yeah will smith wasn’t in the right he did many wrong things that night but nothing he did warranted him dying you wanna talk about the original comment being biased but every argument you’ve had has been extremely biased to a man who can’t tell the difference between self defense and murder. Shooting someone in the back does not count as self defense because once they turn around you have more than enough time to get the fuck out of there but he didn’t he stayed. He wasn’t in fear of his life he thought he could get away with murder by saying self defense even though self defense does not work in these cases. Learn the fucking law dumbass
Because Martin Luther King is viewed as only a hero of the black community. It is up to us to give it the reverance he deserves. Its up to us to stop violence in our community. It starts small...beautify the Blvd...clean it...plant grass and hedges...petition the city for lighting and for regular sweeping...gather college students or local churches to paint the old people's houses...reroof with grants. We gotta take pride and stop waiting for others.
Alcohol Ego Driving + Football player paid Millions to be aggressive - what a mix... And To make it worse, his friend was a catalyst fueling the situation even further 😪
@@spazarellapoet8735 And the fact of the matter is, Cardell rammed his vehicle back. Then proceeded to exit his vehicle, so where was he in fear of anything??
That's y I try to drive without road rage... these days everyone carries guns and when u get heated u kinda don't know how to think straight... that being said, it's so hard not to get in rage with stupid drivers
Same here even if im not wrong, as long as nobody is hurt, I let it go. People have cut me off and then catch an attitude with me. Shoot me the finger. I ignored it. Ego is what puts us in jail or the grave. Boondocks episode for it. A Ni66a moment
@@Tallie90 he didnt kill him over material things. He believed his live was from in danger from a man who was intoxicated. He tried to diffuse the situation but again this dude was a women abuser. So if you never been in a situation like this someone who is under the influence who was an aggressor n going to the car he was fleeing he was getting his gun to kill this young man. Real talk what cold blooded killer sit at the crime scene and waits.
First bad judgement call was Will Smith, hitting the back of a car and fleeing. 3 people in his car and nobody have enough common sense to tell him to stop? They jump out the car and become the aggressors. Cardell was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. It is clear Smith seemed to believe he was above the law. If Cardell was White, he would have been free today.
Dude should not be in jail how many white people killed football players and black people unjustly and got away with it matter of fact a white man in Louisiana killed a football player under the same stand your ground law and got away its a law created for rich people and white people had the black man been rich it would be a different story its all about money and color
This situation pulls your strings in both ways. You can see Right and wrong in both in all the aspects. As a full time Dad to children it hurts me to see children from both without there Dads in there lives. No one wins when there no Dad in the picture.
Rewatching this 1 year later and i still feel and have the same thoughts n emotions over this whole situation. Im very happy to know that both Dads children r very loved and supported by there families, i hope n pray that Cordell when allowed out still has the same ways about himself before he went to prison cuss prison will change you and sometimes it's forthe worse but i can see he was raised by a Great mom and has a tight nit family n friends. Dam still sux tho #91 Who Dat
@@duanejessup3708 Again, he is innocent. Don’t cry for Will Smith; he was violent and a loser on the field. Only one championship equals frustration. How many times has he avoided arrest? This is a trial. He should have one the first trial. I was in New York without my law license being active. John Fuller seeks publicity not zealous representation. Check out the jury instructions. Flawed/ . Automatic reversal which means innocence and a lawsuit against all involved. Period. Check out federal case number 18-cv-2575. My case. Victim and Pro Se Litigator. I’ve sued Louisiana in New York federal court. You’ve been served. #greatness, #thedevilishone, #jwmi. Smooth Justice.
i feel so bad for the kids because they both lost their fathers (even though one is locked up). pride and ego destroy two families. when you have kids you think about them and you don’t let your ego & pride get the best of you.
...and allowing civilians to carry guns....we all go through life stressors...if most countries permitted civilians to carry, this wld happen more often across the globe
Carolina ego and pride are basic psychological functions that all of us homosapiens have at one time or another. To say that your ego nor YOUR pride play a role in "getting the best of you" (as you claim) is an extremely egotistical and prideful response in its own right.
Taking away our guns and such will do NOTHING to help curb violence and murder in this or any other country. In fact it would cause the EXACT OPPOSITE, by making it impossible for the FEW law-abiding citizen to arm and defend themselves against the MANY ARMED criminals who can/will carry firearms illegally. For some wild and crazy reason people think banning/criminalizing a particular thing (A.K.A firearm) and/or action will actually stop future criminals from getting their hands on a firearm or other weapons. Just look at the 'War on drugs' BS, even though Nancy Reagan demonized drugs and drug use, it did NOTHING to help the situation, only causing more agony as it became more & more dangerous and lucrative to smuggle, sell, buy and use drugs
I agree but you left out anger, alcohol and easy access to a gun which adds up for a recipe for a disaster. think of how many road rage incidents go to 100 in 2 seconds if there is a gun available.
@@supernova2897 law abiding citizens don't shoot people when they're angry. Had Will Smith shot in self defense, then people would praise him. Regardless where you go in the world, angry people are going to do harmful things to others whether it's with a gun, knife, etc
Turok, not the dinosaur hunter, the adult film star Don’t say all the whites laughed because all white people are not the same. I get no enjoyment out of this and feel horrible for Smith’s family and the saints
There have been a few times I wanted to cause great bodily harm to someone, but I never acted upon it. I knew if I did, I would be in Prison. Your life is about choices. I watched this entire video and concluded that there were times different choices could have been made. We live in a Country built on Bloodshed, believe me I know, Im Native American. I truly pray for both families.
@@sithkilla8223 old kendrick is a experence his story telling is insane and his flows check out some more songs by him like look out for detox, cartoons and cereal, and blacker the berry.
Charles Wade Think about it. You arguing with someone and they go back to their car. They probably going to get something to hurt you. So in Cardell mind it’s shoot him before he shoots me. Plus Will Smith had a loaded firearm in his car!!!!
Charles Wade think about it it was self defense basically since he was a dominant and big superstar for football and was rich all of the fingers were pointed at Hayes not saying what he did was right but still it was self defense
Simply jump in your car and be a better man. 🤷🏽♂️. Guy comes into my co-workers 21st birthday party Looking for me. Took me outside to show me he accidentally took my right Mirror out. Shook his hands it's ok man. I'll sort it out. easy fix. He was shocked and said you not angry or wanting my details? I said no man it's nothing. Hope you have a good weekend. I was angry but I didn't let it ruined my Friday night. He said alright man. said sorry for that and we went our own ways. He went home to his family I went back in to my co-workers house to enjoy the party
So he pointed out he made a mistake instead of going back to his car to get his loaded gun to shoot you with? Wow man, that's an amazing story of how you dealt with that non-life-threatening situation.
Brotherf... Best advice/comment I've seen on here by Miles and Miles Bro'! It's also my course of action if ever necessary? Although I'm English, living in England. I visit Vancouver alot, to see family? But they don't have as many guns as Americans.
The Pennsylvania Poker Playing Prepper when your fearing for your life that shit happens all the time! Hell even cops forget how much they fire when they are shooting at criminals that are firing back at them
EvilClowns69 no argument here. Just saying from a jurors perspective it’s probably difficult to find innocent. After watching the entire thing I found the fact that it was a split jury insane and Smiths BAC being off the charts should have weighed heavily on the decision. The man would have walked in 48 other states with a hung jury like that. Hope he gets off or a lesser sentence upon appeal.
The Pennsylvania Poker Playing Prepper that’s why I would of gotten a better lawyer if that was me. No offense but when you play the crooked cop defense your gonna lose black lawyer focused to much at playing the race card it even came out in the interview
Ray pasking there were 3 people ready to attack him and your suggesting that he gets the license plate and reports them later Remember smith was also the one who hit him first and took off
If you are in fear for your life, are you going to shoot to injure them? Or are you going to stop a threat? This same mindset can be applied to police shootings.
They also never explained why did Mr Hayes get out with a gun. If a police officer had shot a black man in the back several times, we all would have raised hell
He got out with the gun because the gun is what made him feel empowered in the first place, if he didn’t have the gun he wouldn’t have gotten out of his car.
@@TRIPP98 That's stupid logic and is only making a bad situation worse. You shouldn't need to be holding a gun to feel like a man, there were people around and if he really got attacked by Will Smith, he could've just had them call the cops, write down the license plate number, and let the law handle your business for you.
Do you know Louisiana. They say them boys don't play. No man plays these days. He's legally not guilty they said. Things happen sometimes you don't need to go for the juggler. Weighing options.
@@ryapowa you said the same thing you were disputing! Yes, you shouldn't need that but he did exit with it instead of leaving it in the truck. The Biggest Question is why wasn't he nor his partner calling it in at the time of Smith trying to flee the scene of an accident? That gave the court system a lane of intent to do harm charges to sure up the conviction and override that dumb ass stand your ground law (which I keep trying to tell my people it wasn't made for us). Again if there were no guns in play would he still have stood his ground or naw? And I already know for those who know the youngman, more than likely you say he would still stand his ground without it. Then why bring the gun into play? Why out of all the witnesses around that were told to call them boys after the shooting, never saw Smith with nor flash a gun. Where I'm at that means that a drunk old man is on the verge of a severe beating until them boys show up. Just think with one decision how much different things would have gone. Smith jailed for driving under the influence and hit and run. But both men alive to raise their children, but black male seperation from the family unit has been a plan in effect for centuries!
Gun residue on his hands? So he shot his gun earlier. He beat his wife too as many nfl players do (cte)... they need to expose Will Smith & get this guy out of jail.
@@Itsrebekahstar No he deserve to serve his time for murder..He shot a man 8 times in the back..Why do you think he doesn't deserve to serve his sentence?🤔
You sound dumb just because he didn’t run doesn’t mean anything HE SHOT HIM 7-8 TIMES NO EXCUSES I DONT FREL SORRY FOR HIM I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PERSON WHO IS NO LONGER LIVING YOUR SON IS STILL ALIVE HE MAY BE LOCKED UP HOWEVER HE’S STILL LIVING WILL SMITH IS NOT
This falls into the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" category. If people would just slow down, keep calm & try to talk things out instead of going from 0 to 100 in under a second, a lot of murders would never happen.
your a idiot and obviously never have fired a firearm before. You can let off 7 shots in just a couple seconds. And especially if its in self defense and your in fear for your life your gunna make sure you shoot first and your gunna make sure you eliminate the threat by letting off as many shots as your magazine holds. When its life and death it's kill or be killed. Eliminate the threat before the threat eliminates you. I'm not at all referring to this situation in particular. I'm referring to be in a situation where you have a firearm and it's kill or be killed and how fast and easy it is to get off 7 shots. 7 shots in a modern handgun is nothing to shoot. Don't be so quick to post something so blatantly false and incorrect when you have no clue what your talking about bcuz there are people that do know and will make you look like a emotional irrational fool. You never trust just 1 or 2 shots. And your definitely not as experienced in firearms as you think you are if your calling the MAGAZINE a clip. Go up to anyone in the military and try to talk about guns and call the mag a clip...they will automatically correct you and change the subject bcuz you obviously have no clue what your talking about.
@@enigma1247 na u rite. In Iraq or something your dumping the whole clip. But when your point blank with that caliber you don't have too let off 8 shots and 7 in the back on top of that. You shoot the chest he turns and falls in the car. Maybe you let off one more. But then you keep your aim on him and say don't move. If he even turns alittle u continue. This isn't a inexperienced gun owner. He knew exactly what too do in that situation. He was definitely mad will Smith punked him and shot too kill. Imo that is.
Okay but that's call heat of the moment. Plus Will Smith isn't a little dude and plus his alcohol levels was beyond High. I could imagine how Mr. Hayes felt. He probably was scared as well. Really thinking it was a gun in that vehicle and two how violent Smith reaction was when he got out the vehicle as well.
This whole story is unfortunate. Smith should have pulled over once he bumped the car. But even though he didn't Hayes should have never bumped his vehicle in retaliation. Lives forever changed over a vehicle bump that probably did little to no damage, smh.
And people shouldn't try to be vigilantes like Hayes. Call the cops and let the law handle it for you, maybe following Smith just enough to give the police the information they need
@@dudemusstinkmeyer9843 I mean I'm sure that's not how someone might think in New Orleans but it's sickening for anyone who tries to justify the means of taking someone's life. Smith wasn't an immediate threat and Hayes could've been the bigger person and call the police if he feared that Smith was getting a gun from his car. THERE WERE OTHER OPTIONS.
@henree simp True but how he retaliated after Smith just left is classified as Vehicular Assault and Smith was justifiably upset as a result of purposely getting rammed into. I'm not saying what either one of them did was right, but committing multiple crimes including murder means you need to spend some time in prison. There were other options.
@@fendertremolo9793 will provocated the incident... let’s see, he is driving heavily drunk so he already broke the law .. now you hit someone that’s another broke law ... now you get out and then go back and get your firearm... hmmmm see a pattern.. look past the fact he was an NFL player ... the shots in the back is what did Cardelle in ...
If smith had a gun in his car and was turning to get it I’d say it’s self defense. Problem here is hayes hopped out the car with the gun which shows intent he was gonna use it imo.
"Cardel didn't have a chance to be different." What? Cardel had a chance to be different by not firing EIGHT shots to a man's BACK, but instead could of called the police and tried to resolve the issue that night like men. The liberal vibe here. Sheesh. Both men were in the wrong, but a man did not deserve to die that night. The two men should've handled the night better. Both would we back with their families if they had. Sad.
Shooting a person eight times in the back. Sounds something like what a conservative card holding NRA member would do Or the police. So let's not play holy
This is sad. And I feel sorry for both families. But if I was will having a 90 million dollar contract. I would have pulled over after bumping that man car and offered to buy him a new one. Poor decision making on both sides. SMH
That would be the logical thing to do, but he wasn't in his right mind. He was drunk and made bad decisions. 1. Getting behind the wheel. 2. Hit and run. 3. Getting out your vehicle wanting to fight the person whose car you hit. Alcohol changes your thinking. That's why it's against the law to drive drunk. Ijs
Hayes shot him EIGHT TIMES, with most of the bullets striking Smith in the back. Hayes may not be responsible for initiating the altercation, but you can't damn near empty the clip into an unarmed person and still claim self-defense.
Smith couldve been going back to his car to get his gun, hence the shots to the back. If some drunk dude that was swinging at me goes back and reaches into his car you can bet that id put eight bullets in his back fearing for my life.
Yes you're right but I think the most important thing was that Cardell Hayes pursued Will Smith and Hit him with his truck. Instead taking down the license plate number and sharing it with the cops!
@@agonforreal and not to mention that guns are legally supposed to be store in the glove compartment. With that in mind, Smith got shot on the left side of his body, glove compartment is on right of the car. Smith could have put his right side of the body inside the car could be perceived as someone who's trying and retrieve his weapon.
This was senseless ! 💥 They should have exchanged information & went on about their business🤕🤔 Cordell didn't stand a chance against a super bowl hero🤔2 lives lost ... unnecessary🤔
The thing he can never get past is the fact he shot him 8 times in the back and Smith didn't have a gun on him at the time of the shooting. Even if he had one in the car, it wasn't on him when he fired those 8 shots into his back.
@Kerry Hanley not really, if your car has drugs in it the police are still gonna charge it as if it was on you, just like they would do with a gun. Yall just mad a Saints player got killed because of his bad actions that night
@@elbowgang9715 "One important factor to consider is the actual imminence of the threat. The courts have generally interpreted this to mean that the danger must be immediate and present rather than simply impending. In other words, if there is time for the victim to take evasive action, then the danger may not be considered imminent." The suspect could have easily fled on foot or in his vehicle, this is likely why a jury found him guilty. As point blank as the 8 gunshots in Will Smith's back.
8 times in the back? Sorry he may have feared for his life but to act as if he should just walk free is delusional I 'll pray for both sides but some of these testimonies are delusional. You can't excuse a death on feelings. The hubris or arrogance and lack of accountability leave me stunned. A person is dead no caveats. His friends are hurting his case more than he knows. The lack of contrition is glaring you have to side with the prosecution and I hate the state. I never side with the DA or the prosecution. At some point, he has to be sitting in jail and come to terms on his bad choices and bad decision. I think time is the only thing that will bring that about. As long as he keeps listening to his friends and family that he did nothing wrong the more and more this thing festers. This is sad truly sad. smh sorry, maybe that 25 is needed.
The law is the law; people always want to argue it when it comes to applying it to benefit a person of color..Do I think he should have chase after him; not to the point of confronting him, get license plate, you have a witness. Hey the attorney stated the law; witnesses say Will was the aggressor and he went to retrieve his gun, would have been better if he had waited for him to exit the vehicle with the gun then shot (if you couldn't leave the area) but the law state if you are in danger of losing your life at the hand of a person; you can shot to kill in self defense. That Louisiana law. Why should anyone have a problem with that if it's the law?!
Too many people are on this strand making excuses. In life we all have choices He chose to chase that vehicle down. Maybe he felt confident in chasing because he did have a gun. (decision number 1) He chose to ram the vehicle Maybe having gun gives you the confidence in doing so. (decision number 2) He chose to get out of the car brandishing the said firearm. (decision number 3) At each point, he chose to escalate. At each decision fueled by his toxic masculinity and the energy of his friend in the car he made a decision that cost him his freedom He chose to empty the clip into a stranger back ( decision number 4) This isnt football this isnt a game this was real life. His friend failed him that night a real friend would have said naw my dude lets just get the license and move on. I guess not wanting to be no punk makes you say come on let's get him. Welp, you got him................Now he's doing 25 and you on the outside heartbroken and a family on both sides is broken. 2 wrongs dont make a right and eye for an eye leaves us all blind. He murdered a man he's where he's supposed to be. In Prison. Its serious its real its whats happens when you make bad decisions. Prison is full of men who made poor decisions. We dont have time machines in real life we only get one life. That's why that extra beat you pause with is the difference between making a good decision or an impulsive decision. All this talk about how this man was not a violent person he's a good man. There are plenty of good men in prison who have committed murder. How you see him as a father a husband or son does not absolve him of his crime. You can still love a man who is flawed and who made a mistake folks.
There is an update in the case: On January 11, 2021, the Supreme Court vacated Hayes' conviction, pending a new trial. Because Hayes was initially convicted on manslaughter, he cannot face charges greater than manslaughter in the retrial
I feel for Cardell's mom/family. I believe the ppl in the barber shop when they say they knew him to be a good person. But 3 things bother me 1) When Smith hit and ran- that car bump was not serious enough to chase Smith down and violently hit the back of his car. This New Orleans. Why would u do that? 2) Smith was walking back to his car and was shot in the back at close range- 8 times. EIGHT. Times. That's not fear, that's anger. 3) He shot the wife. She saw him shoot her. He shot her. The F&%K why? This took a lot out of our city. Sharply divided. Prayers for all the families involved.
Did you watch the video? He didn’t shoot the wife, Smith did. They covered that up. As far as the initial accident, of course you go after the car that just hit your very expensive car and ran-I would. You are also forgetting that Smith was drunk off his ass and very aggressive to the point he went for his loaded gun where he accidentally shot his wife. I do agree with you about the eight shots though-very excessive.
@Marco Miranda Smith's gun was found still in the holster tucked between the seats and had not been fired. Hays shot 9 shots that night. All 9 casings were from his gun. The court documents are online. It is what it is.
your a idiot and obviously never have fired a firearm before. You can let off 7 shots in just a couple seconds. And especially if its in self defense and your in fear for your life your gunna make sure you shoot first and your gunna make sure you eliminate the threat by letting off as many shots as your magazine holds. When its life and death it's kill or be killed. Eliminate the threat before the threat eliminates you. I'm not at all referring to this situation in particular. I'm referring to be in a situation where you have a firearm and it's kill or be killed and how fast and easy it is to get off 7 shots. 7 shots in a modern handgun is nothing to shoot. Don't be so quick to post something so blatantly false and incorrect when you have no clue what your talking about bcuz there are people that do know and will make you look like a emotional irrational fool. You never trust just 1 or 2 shots. And your definitely not as experienced in firearms as you think you are if your calling the MAGAZINE a clip. Go up to anyone in the military and try to talk about guns and call the mag a clip...they will automatically correct you and change the subject bcuz you obviously have no clue what your talking about.
Nobody is an idiot ppl react differently to situations. Cardell got out he car with his gun, Will did not. It’s multiple reactions that could have had a part that night smart, fear, anger.... I think we can all agree it wasn’t smart. Fearful ppl shouldn’t carry guns simple as that. 🤔 Anger told Will to out the car swinging fear told Cardell to stay....Anger told Cardell to get out the car with his gun Fear told Will to go back to his car.... EGO crashed into them both and they didn’t see it coming!!
This couldve all been avoided! I knew it had to be something like Smith being intoxicated the reason he hit them and ran. But going after him to the point where it ended in someones death and your life being gone couldve been avoided by getting his tag number and calling the police. Yea i get it, i wouldve been heated too if somebody hit me and ran. But life is so much more important. You can get your car fixed, but 2 people lives are gone! You didnt shoot once, but you shot 8 times and made sure this man was dead. He probably thought Smith was heading back to get a gun, but damn...... 8 times!!!!!! Sad situation!
Most altercations like this can be avoided….but humans are emotional beings, & some handle those emotions better than others. There are prisons all over the globe, full of people who got overly emotional & couldn’t keep it in check.
There is stories of homeowners shooting burglers in the back as they ran away, after robbing them and the homeowner getting sentenced. Any person who carries a gun has to be prepared to defend their actions in court. And shooting someone whos back is turned is "No longer a threat to your life". Common sense and a cool head would result in a completely different story. I feel sad for the family, But they are not Victims.
@Gabe Gonzalez It's a law my dude. Even if a burglar is in your home, if he starts to run away you can't shoot him in the back, it's called a fleeing felon. You will get charged. People have to know the laws of the state they live in. The problem is people assume what the laws are.
The victim told him he was going to get a gun and shoot him. The victim then turned around and reahed into his vehicle for a weapon. Why would i then wait for the guy to turn around with hin gun and shoot me.
@@djkoz1 You are mixing apples with oranges. A buglar running away and a angry man making a threat and acted on that threat by reaching for a weapon. Is two different things.
Look up the law in TX "you mess with a man's property, that man as the right to shoot you!" I'd shot that man to if you mess with my property, don't wanna get shot will than follow the law.
This was very well put together. Never knew the details of this case until I watched this. I always thought cardell was dead wrong but after watching this I kind of changed my perspective. Though I still think 8 shots was unnecessary.
So you think he deserved to be shot AT ALL because of a hit and run and because he was yelling while having a gun held on him and then trying to get back in his car. It's just the amount of shots that bothers you? Cute
@@zarablue2020 Will Smith is a violent felon who ran at/attacked the other driver, and risked ppl's lives by DUI at 3 times the legal limit -- *so one dead and the other in jail sounds good to me,* except that jails should make violent gangster inmates work to pay the costs of their own incarceration (slave labor).
One more time idiot this fool was drunk, and threated to go for his gun while going back to his car digging under his seat. Plus there was a gun found in the vehicle. New Orleans politcs make me sick.
I feel sorry for Hayes’ friends and family but they all buggin. You don’t shoot someone in the back 7 times in self defense. I feel the most sympathy for Cordell’s son because his dad is locked up because the whole situation could have been avoided. We gotta do better as black men. Sometimes the best solution is to walk away. They could both still be living their lives if someone had the sense enough to walk away 😔💯
Oh yeah? Well if he was such a great friend, maybe he should’ve been extra EXTRA prepared to take the stand instead of getting up there and sinking Hayes’ whole defense.
I've always said that people who feel powerful while carrying a gun shouldn't be carrying one. Based on the fact that they will be more willing to put themselves in a dangerous situations than if they were unarmed. It takes a lot of responsibility to carry a gun and very few people are not responsible enough to do so.
@@johnabram5566 the hard part is proving he was going for a gun even if one was found in the car, no proof he was going for it. That's why he's in jail
YOU ARE RIGHT. HOWEVER, EXPLAIN TO ME, THE KILLER SHOT THIS GUY WIFE AND SHOT THE HUSBAND 7 TIMES IN THE BACK AND SUPPOSE TO BUCK ASS GO HOME FREE. THIS WAS NOT A CASE OF TWO MEN FIRING A WEAPON AT EACH OTHER, THE KILLER SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRYING A WEAPON AND FIRING IT. THE KILLER COULD HAVE JUST CALLED THE COP, BUT INSTEAD HE WENT AFTER THE DRUNK DRIVER AND FIRED 7 TIMES IN THE MAN BACK, IT WAS NOT JUST 1 SHOT, BUT 7 TIMES AND SHOT THE MAN WIFE. FUCK THE HITTING OF THE CAR, WAS IT WORTH THAT MAN LIFE AND HIM SERVING TIME. TO KEEP FIRING INTO THIS MAN BACKAND KEPT ON SHOOTING IS DEAD ASS WRONG. WHERE WAS HIS LIFE IN DANGER WHEN HE IS THE ONLY ONE FIRING HIS FUCKING GUN. HE IS WHERE HE SUPPOSE TO BE.
@@theodorebaker5483 see your logic alone let's me know you live in a millionaire mansion...here's a life lesson for you...the rules of engagement. 1. Nobody cares about him being drunk as Will chose to drink and drive 2. The pulled out his weapon after Will aggressively hit his car and kept driving instead of pulling over and exchanging insurance info 3. Will was with his wife so 9 times out of 10 will was probably showing off and threaten dude 4. The pulled his weapon out and I wouldn't let you back to your car because I don't know if you have a weapon in your car 5. You ALWAYS shoot to kill and not injure 6. Will had ample opportunities to do the right prior to the shooting and simply choose not to. 7. His wife had ample opportunities to do the right thing and she simply chose not 8. RIP Will, you play stupid games and win stupid prizes
This man cordell stayed at that scene due to the fact that he thought that he was going to be able to get away with self defense but shooting someone in the back let alone 8 times is not self defense
It's not an easy call as will swung at him, (showing aggression) he was with other people who were also angry, was drunk, and could very well have been going for his own weapon. Will was also 6'7 so several shots when you think your own life is at danger is warranted.
@@Joyful-gu5bj 8 shots, but its at a group of men who are pissed off and marching towards you and your wife? after they did a hit and run because they were drunk??
Will Smith should have pulled over and settled it he would be alive now cardell should have not reacted the way he did but fate has a really messed up way of doing things
My heart breaks for both families. If Cordell is rly a good man, this will haunt him forever. I don't understand how Smith had gun powder on his hands. They made Smith look like a saint but he was drunk driving & hit & running, it's a tragedy but I believe Cordell panicked or truly feared for his life or he wouldn't have pulled that trigger 8 times
@@TripleDTx214 There are a few flaws in the law in Louisiana if everyone in this video is claiming that self defense shooting laws allow for the use of force to "kill" an attacker. This is a systemic issue in the possession of a firearm without proper training and situational awareness. Proper training in the use of and possession of firearm and for self defense should always emphasize the defense in removing the "threat". When a law is written to emphasize that self defense is allowable to "kill" in a particular state, it now renders the jury to look at the shooting as "shoot to kill" as opposed to "shoot to eliminate the threat". So if it was one shot or two and he neutralized the threat, he might have been acquitted on self defense. Without proper understanding of the use of the firearm in self defense and cause and effect...which we see all too often with concealed carry (mind you I am concealed carry self defense advocate)...people cross over past the point of no return and in the heat of the moment it was too late! It was said once that you train and educate on the use of the firearm 99% so when you cross over to the 1% you have made every assessment and effort necessary before doing so. Sad because as a die hard Saints fan it was a sad day. As a human it was a sad day for this man because I don't believe he was a killer...but everything was stacked up against him the second he engaged a New Orleans Saint and unloaded most of his pistol's "magazine" into the back of a man. Tough situation!!!! Wish it never happened for all involved!
This is exactly what I was thinking, but then I finished the video, and they mentioned how Will Smith threatened to grab a gun from his car and that they did later find a loaded one in his car
@@owens781781lol so you're saying that you get to kill someone because they said they'd get a gun. This idiot could've got back in his vehicle and he'd still be playing amateur football somewhere.
He also thinks gun laws help gun violence. It's been proven gun laws only affect law abiding owners. Criminals will continue to get guns no matter what laws are on the books. Look at Chicago, for example.
@John Smith He probably would've ended up murdered himself in the streets of New Orleans..He probably was one of those people who loved to prove he's tuff or whatever...
8 shots in the back self-defence?!?!?!? Understanding Will Smith was acting Reckless but at the end of the day all said and done eight shots in the back and claim self-defense ain't going to work!!
I feel you but you can’t judge if you haven’t been in that situation. If the man was allegedly drunk and swinging on him, you don’t know if he’s going back in the car to get HIS gun. Unfortunate situation nonetheless, just wish it didn’t escalate so quickly.
@@mbuvito I agree but have you been in situations where it did escalate that fast? I sure have. If Smith was going for his gun, I ask myself, would I wait for him to grab it and begin emptying the clip into me? I don't think that I would empty my clip into his back first, but it's easy to say that. I wasn't there under that pressure.
Terrible situation. As a Saints fan I was furious and very sad. It’s beautiful to see the other persons life and helps me to have grace. Gold bless both men’s sons and family in Jesus name 🙏🏼
I'm from Louisiana... I know from personal friends if you shoot someone in the back its almost impossible to get "self defense" awarded to you. Knowing how corrupt the legal system is here I absolutely do believe this man had an unfair trial. Is just a very unfortunate situation.
This was deep. I must say that i went into this thinking something completely different than what i took away from it. This is a very sad story and both families are hurt. They way they painted the shooter was as if he was a thug. I am a rival of the saints and live in Atlanta and when we heard about this here it was as if some gangster or thug has done this to Will. Seeing this I don’t think that now. I am interested in seeing where this goes because this is a really unfortunate situation and there are 3 sides to every story. I will be praying for both families.
Cardell is a good guy and comes from a nice family. Will Smith was known for assault women here in the clubs with multiple police reports, and beat his wife ass also. Will Smith shot his own wife that's why they didn't take the bullets out her leg.
@@ASimpleHeroinUser I'm not idolizeing anyone just stating a fact even if he was a piece of shit no one deserves to get shot in the back 7 times for a little 80 dollar fender bender and was his wife such a piece if shit she deserved to get shot also in your opinion? Will has also done alot of good for new orleans but I'm sure u forget that
@@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE will was drunk and I’m pretty sure he was headed back to the truck to get his loaded weapon…. A person that was already swinging on the guy and now about to get a gun… yea I say that’s self defense… self defense is when you fear for your life
1) After Cardell Hayes was hit. He then pursued Will Smith. He even hit Will Smith from behind too. Therefore this could have been avoided if Cardell Hayes simply followed and got the license plate number to give to the cops! 2) Though Hernandez and Will Smith were the aggressor. You put yourself in that situation by hitting them back with your car! 3) It looked like Cardell Hayes purposely slammed his breaks. You don't see any TRAFFIC or car in front of Cardell Haye vehicle. Will Smith passed him and you see that there is no cars in front of Cardell Hayes! 4) You're 6'6 280+ pounds and you have your friend there that can fight with you. Even though Hernandez escalated it by taking off his shirt. That meant it was going to be fight NOT a GUN BATTLE!! A FIGHT! You fight but you live another day! 5) Cardell Hayes put out his gun first! Another escalating. You a big guy you can fight instead of shooting! Yes Will Smith was drunk but that means you can beat him up! Being that Cardell Hayes FOLLOWED Will Smith makes him in the wrong! 6) You telling me you had to shoot the guy in the back 7 times?? Please! But I get it. Once you shoot there is no turning back. It's either you or him! 7) The reason why I'm against Cardell Hayes defense is because he pursued the vehicle and could have taken down the license plate number instead hitting them back with his truck. If you're going to do that. Then you're looking to fight which is what Cardell Hayes got. But he was too much of a punk to fight! He instead chose a GUN!!! 8) You can judge me but I rather fight you then KILL you!
@@nomads7978 Absolutely but remember who pulled out the gun first. If Will Smith came out to fight. He came out to fight. But not to have a gun fight. Hayes does deserve jail time because he did escalate the situation by taking revenge and crashing his truck into Will Smith's truck.
Its a sad story it truly is. Two good men in a situation that shouldn't of happened. But unfortunately regardless of who you are and what you've done in the past... in one moment you can make a decision to ruin your life. Cardell was probably a great kid growing up... but he made the decision shooting a man 7 times in the back.
And then we would be protesting the killing of an unarmed black man. The only reason this is difficult is because it wasn’t a white man that was shooting
0:58 Is where I'm at in this video, but I will state this.... I visited New Orleans with my 6 years old daughter earlier this year (2019) and as we walked the streets of the 6th ward, I remember us being almost hit a few times by RUDE, DISRESPECTFUL drivers. As I observed these disgusting individuals driving, my prevalent thoughts were "I see why niggas get killed out here, at an alarming rate." **They were beyond inconsiderate, and driving around with that attitude can only lend itself to tragedy.** I haven't watched this video yet, so I can't state who was at fault. My comment is to let the reader know, don't sum this up to jealousy or whatever. The underlying issue in a lot of these stranger-to-stranger murders has to do with lack of COURTESY!
Hey LAs.... about 12 years ago I was looking for work and found some in Vegas...I work construction...So.off I went to Vegas and I could see that there was all kinds of construction going on ...So I started saving my money to move my Wife and Son out to Vegas cuz of all the work...being from Los Angeles area I grew up being very observant...So the first thing I noticed was all the concrete trucks and cranes...I could see dollar signs...I called home and checked with the wife...she said sure I'm for it... Then I started noticing all the Ambulances going this way that way...Vegas is so crazy that people get hit by cars all the time there....people are drunk & high driving way too fast...I started to second guess my decision...One night the crew and I went out to Boulder Hwy for a great cheap dinner...6 bucks for a full Ribeye dinner...I'd been going there by myself for a week or more so I turned the guys on to it, so we show up and being a gentleman I held the door open and while doing so just took a look around ya know...took notice of a guy sitting at a covered bus stop...went in had a 20 minute wait and we all had dinner...so we walk outside and I thought I was in The Twilight Zone...the fucking bus stop was gone.... puzzled I walked back in and asked the greeter....I could of sworn that there was a bus stop out there....He said....yep there was and A guy sitting in it...some drunk lady plowed into it and the guy died....in the 45 minutes we spent enjoying dinner a Man lost his life a woman was going to prison for 7 years and they had a clean up crew come in and remove all traces...where the steal went into the concrete had been cleanly cut off and swept up...all's that remained was a couple handfuls of shattered glass... Needless to say we never moved to Vegas....I ain't bringing my only child in to this.... Please be safe .... Eric Underwood class of 81 Downey High School California
I understand Hayes mother being heartbroken but come on you’re son did something horrible and unnecessary. However, Hayes stayed at the scene, that’s rare. He might’ve been railroaded but he put himself in that position. He should’ve gotten the plate number and called 911
"only two people know what happened that night". 30 seconds later... "multiple people get out of the car". wat a joke this is
D D that was strange
I shook my head as soon as he said that
Thats VICE's journalism
If you had any sort of comprehension skills you would have heard that they spoke to each other behind the Hummer by themselves....so only the two of them know if he was actually going to the car for a gun.
New Orleans laws are different if no one testified against him in 60 days he walks free regardless what evidence they have
Emptying a clip into the BACK of someone leaving is crazy
AND shooting their wife but claiming self defense
They were going to get a gun, after Will Smith attacked Cardell Hayes!!!
Leaving!? or going to retrieve the gun that was in his center console? It could be detrimental for a person to wait and see which one it actually is
If Cardell was a cop, he would have gone home that night
@@orentajarreau4392 so refreshing to know there are reasonable people out there. Cardell got rear ended, by a drunken, angry man who was about to get his weapon.
He should've just called the police and given them the license plate and description of the vehicle.
Rack City Duh stop snitching stop lying
Daddy Kim 🙄FOH
Yeah in hind site that sounds good what we do and what we should have done is two different things I know one thing he's sorry now
Rack City Duh yup true
@Jason Street What's killing all the euroamericans? Besides oxy?
I no longer engage when people get crazy with me on the road. I just let it go. I have a life. I lose absolutely nothing because some stranger in his car insulted me, "punked me" or whatever. Just let it go and think about your life. You will never see these crazy people again after a few seconds. If it is a hit and run, just get the plate #. There are a lot of unstable people that will shoot over anything. Stay safe, and blessed
Late response: But yes, you are correct. Especially in Chicago where they are killing people in mass on the expressway for road rage. I beep my horn and keep it moving. My life is too important to me to get crazy over somebody cutting me off in traffic
True wisdom.
Wonderful advice!!!
@@dp7047 Sometimes it's best to even skip the horn beep. For some crazies that's enough to get you dead.
Unfortunately, once your attacker is fleeing it’s no longer self defense...
...unless you’re in Florida.
Going to grab a gun isn't fleeing
fleeing to get his gun yeah lol
Lmfao not just Florida go to Texas, Montana,Wyoming,Idaho,North Dakota, i could name 12 stand your ground states not Florida
Missouri too
Jay Reece noob Florida is not a dangerous state at all, every state and every country you fool
Road rage . helps no 1 . bottom line . no car is worth a man's life .
Very well said...Hayes could have sat in his car and called the cops but he chose to go get his gun.
GOOD GOD YOU ARE DENSE. CAN YOU NOT SEE BEYOND YOUR FUCKN NOSE? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ROAD RAGE OR A CAR. THIS IS AMERICA.
@Danny Branderson Drunk drivers do that. Almost every single time. Had it happen to me at a red light.
@Danny Branderson I agree
@Danny Branderson Drunk people, Public Figures, Politicians, Teachers, Doctors- people with a lot to loose.
Bro i see both sides but the man didnt have to empty the clip on him..
Take more bullets for big people to be stopped. If someone is going for their gun you continue to shoot until that person stops .
I think that's where the conflict come in at ... man but the city is torn about this. Even me .
Joey this fucked up... u can’t shoot somebody in the ass and keep it moving
@@ryujetra5668 Dude was going back to the car he shoot the man 7 time in the back
He didn't have to use it at all. Cowards move.
The fact that the shooters friend tries to say he's friend was calm if he was calm he wouldn't of ram into smiths car after smith tried to leave the scene i think that made everything worst
Yall are blind and biased. Will Smith ran into him! Will Smith was the one who got out acting aggressively!
Will Smith’s vehicle was also MISSING a rear license plate! Cardell couldn’t simply get the license plate and turn the information over to the Police! If this was Rashee Rice or Jon Jones some of you would see the hypocritical double standard 🤦🏽♂️
@@cedricbeard4609your responses are garbage dude two wrongs do not make a right just because a mf rear ends you that doesn’t mean fucking slam into the back of the car and make everything so much worse. Will smith acted aggressively after being rammed. Yeah will smith wasn’t in the right he did many wrong things that night but nothing he did warranted him dying you wanna talk about the original comment being biased but every argument you’ve had has been extremely biased to a man who can’t tell the difference between self defense and murder. Shooting someone in the back does not count as self defense because once they turn around you have more than enough time to get the fuck out of there but he didn’t he stayed. He wasn’t in fear of his life he thought he could get away with murder by saying self defense even though self defense does not work in these cases. Learn the fucking law dumbass
Holy shit, I though the pic of Hayes was his kid, they're literally twins.
Why Martin Luther King Blvd in every state is the place where you don't really wanna go, it always run through the hoods
Chris Rock said the same thing.
Truth
Because Martin Luther King is viewed as only a hero of the black community. It is up to us to give it the reverance he deserves. Its up to us to stop violence in our community. It starts small...beautify the Blvd...clean it...plant grass and hedges...petition the city for lighting and for regular sweeping...gather college students or local churches to paint the old people's houses...reroof with grants. We gotta take pride and stop waiting for others.
Fact
It's not coincidence. Just like how black history month is in the shortest month of the yr.
An argument, swinging arms, and taking a shirt off ain’t a reason to shoot somebody in the back 7 times…no matter what…this is sad all the way around
He was going for his gun!
Alcohol and EGO do not mix well,,,,,,,especially while driving!
Anger & Guns don't mix well either
Man!
Alcohol Ego Driving + Football player paid Millions to be aggressive - what a mix...
And To make it worse, his friend was a catalyst fueling the situation even further 😪
" 7 Shots in the back of a person walking away will land you in prison." " 7 Shots in the back of a person walking away will land you in prison."
@@shinski8114 what else you nimrod
All over a simple bump on a vehicle. Senseless so senseless
Max right a bump to a hummer ain't no big deal probably didn't even scratch or dent it both of them over acted
When keeping it real goes wrong
That car cost more than yo house
@@spazarellapoet8735 And the fact of the matter is, Cardell rammed his vehicle back. Then proceeded to exit his vehicle, so where was he in fear of anything??
It was road rage the bump was on purpose to get him out the car
Wow him and his son look 100000 percent alike.
Spitting image
Splitting image.
I remember when this happened, but never knew how complicated it was. I hope that guy's little son turns out okay
That's y I try to drive without road rage... these days everyone carries guns and when u get heated u kinda don't know how to think straight... that being said, it's so hard not to get in rage with stupid drivers
There's a Memphis PD car at every exit between I-40/55/240 enforced because of road shootings. Today. Sad
Yup
Same here even if im not wrong, as long as nobody is hurt, I let it go. People have cut me off and then catch an attitude with me. Shoot me the finger. I ignored it. Ego is what puts us in jail or the grave. Boondocks episode for it. A Ni66a moment
People are getting weak without weapons nowadays I guess gunslinging is back and the theme of the wild Wild West
When the youth start tattooing their body they are preparing for war….
this some good ass filmmaking
It really was
dbag0584 who calls someone a big dumb dumb lmao 🙄
Dustin Willett who uses lol in all caps
Speak properly
You seem like a fun friend to have around.
Will smith was the aggressor but hayes did a bad judgement call by killing smith...dang.. Two families affected by this horrible nightmare😢😪😥
Yes
He should not have killed Will Smith over material stuff. So he's locked he's in the right place.
@Goedde ol well now the killer is stuck smelling someone else's stinky facts and shit and pics for yrs
@@Tallie90 he didnt kill him over material things. He believed his live was from in danger from a man who was intoxicated. He tried to diffuse the situation but again this dude was a women abuser. So if you never been in a situation like this someone who is under the influence who was an aggressor n going to the car he was fleeing he was getting his gun to kill this young man. Real talk what cold blooded killer sit at the crime scene and waits.
First bad judgement call was Will Smith, hitting the back of a car and fleeing. 3 people in his car and nobody have enough common sense to tell him to stop? They jump out the car and become the aggressors. Cardell was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. It is clear Smith seemed to believe he was above the law. If Cardell was White, he would have been free today.
Bravo, very well made documentary. I have a better perspective and feel bad about the animosity I felt for Hayes. It wasn’t that simple
It's just said to see 2 lives lost over something that could have been settled with a conversation.
You can't have a conversation with alcohol. Especially 2 times over the legal limit to drive a vehicle
liquor will kill many and for stupid reasons,,, drugs, Ect.,
Dude should not be in jail how many white people killed football players and black people unjustly and got away with it matter of fact a white man in Louisiana killed a football player under the same stand your ground law and got away its a law created for rich people and white people had the black man been rich it would be a different story its all about money and color
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I agree just talk it out damn
Proverbs 16:18 (KJV) Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
This situation pulls your strings in both ways. You can see Right and wrong in both in all the aspects. As a full time Dad to children it hurts me to see children from both without there Dads in there lives. No one wins when there no Dad in the picture.
💯% right!!!
Rewatching this 1 year later and i still feel and have the same thoughts n emotions over this whole situation. Im very happy to know that both Dads children r very loved and supported by there families, i hope n pray that Cordell when allowed out still has the same ways about himself before he went to prison cuss prison will change you and sometimes it's forthe worse but i can see he was raised by a Great mom and has a tight nit family n friends. Dam still sux tho #91 Who Dat
Will Smith son will never see his father again.
@@duanejessup3708 Again, he is innocent. Don’t cry for Will Smith; he was violent and a loser on the field. Only one championship equals frustration. How many times has he avoided arrest? This is a trial. He should have one the first trial. I was in New York without my law license being active. John Fuller seeks publicity not zealous representation. Check out the jury instructions. Flawed/ . Automatic reversal which means innocence and a lawsuit against all involved. Period. Check out federal case number 18-cv-2575. My case. Victim and Pro Se Litigator. I’ve sued Louisiana in New York federal court. You’ve been served. #greatness, #thedevilishone, #jwmi. Smooth Justice.
i feel so bad for the kids because they both lost their fathers (even though one is locked up). pride and ego destroy two families. when you have kids you think about them and you don’t let your ego & pride get the best of you.
...and allowing civilians to carry guns....we all go through life stressors...if most countries permitted civilians to carry, this wld happen more often across the globe
Carolina ego and pride are basic psychological functions that all of us homosapiens have at one time or another. To say that your ego nor YOUR pride play a role in "getting the best of you" (as you claim) is an extremely egotistical and prideful response in its own right.
Taking away our guns and such will do NOTHING to help curb violence and murder in this or any other country. In fact it would cause the EXACT OPPOSITE, by making it impossible for the FEW law-abiding citizen to arm and defend themselves against the MANY ARMED criminals who can/will carry firearms illegally. For some wild and crazy reason people think banning/criminalizing a particular thing (A.K.A firearm) and/or action will actually stop future criminals from getting their hands on a firearm or other weapons. Just look at the 'War on drugs' BS, even though Nancy Reagan demonized drugs and drug use, it did NOTHING to help the situation, only causing more agony as it became more & more dangerous and lucrative to smuggle, sell, buy and use drugs
I agree but you left out anger, alcohol and easy access to a gun which adds up for a recipe for a disaster. think of how many road rage incidents go to 100 in 2 seconds if there is a gun available.
@@supernova2897 law abiding citizens don't shoot people when they're angry. Had Will Smith shot in self defense, then people would praise him. Regardless where you go in the world, angry people are going to do harmful things to others whether it's with a gun, knife, etc
At the end of the day we lost two black men one to the Grave one to the penitentiary
All because of chemtrail induced violence....
Jamison Smith and all the whities laughed and laughed and laughed. We gave them a 2 for 1 special. Bullshit.
Diss ClayCoCamm more like CTE
Turok, not the dinosaur hunter, the adult film star Don’t say all the whites laughed because all white people are not the same. I get no enjoyment out of this and feel horrible for Smith’s family and the saints
Jamison Smith niggas will never learn. The black man is rising up and waking up.
There have been a few times I wanted to cause great bodily harm to someone, but I never acted upon it. I knew if I did, I would be in Prison. Your life is about choices. I watched this entire video and concluded that there were times different choices could have been made. We live in a Country built on Bloodshed, believe me I know, Im Native American. I truly pray for both families.
Brian Loney Amen.
Yeah okay Brian, what are you 1/100th Choctaw? Lol
"Everybody gone respect the shooter
But the one in front of the gun lives forever"
-Kendrick Lamar
What song is that verse from that is amazing!
Christian Menier Money Trees
The Kasolo it doesn't fit tho
@@sithkilla8223 old kendrick is a experence his story telling is insane and his flows check out some more songs by him like look out for detox, cartoons and cereal, and blacker the berry.
So who respects this shooter? Not me.
He lost his dignity, but Will lost his life! He shot that man 7 times and also shot his wife.
What do you suggest be done when a drunk man attacks you for hitting your truck!
Either way, shots shouldn't have been fired.
Charles Wade Think about it. You arguing with someone and they go back to their car. They probably going to get something to hurt you. So in Cardell mind it’s shoot him before he shoots me. Plus Will Smith had a loaded firearm in his car!!!!
6'5 drunk and belligerent and hit and run.....you would be scared shitless
Charles Wade think about it it was self defense basically since he was a dominant and big superstar for football and was rich all of the fingers were pointed at Hayes not saying what he did was right but still it was self defense
"Amen"
@@tsd4831 SHOOTING A GUN 7 TIMES IS NEVER SELF DEFENSE. YOUR INSANE FOR THINKING SO. HAYES IS CLEARLY GUILTY AS SIN!!!!
This really breaks my heart. This could've been avoided point blank period. Two lives lost. I'm in tears.
Simply jump in your car and be a better man. 🤷🏽♂️. Guy comes into my co-workers 21st birthday party Looking for me. Took me outside to show me he accidentally took my right Mirror out. Shook his hands it's ok man. I'll sort it out. easy fix. He was shocked and said you not angry or wanting my details? I said no man it's nothing. Hope you have a good weekend. I was angry but I didn't let it ruined my Friday night. He said alright man. said sorry for that and we went our own ways. He went home to his family I went back in to my co-workers house to enjoy the party
but he wasn't drunk right, Smith hit his car first then tried to flee he committed two crimes prior to even hitting the car.
Vetaia Pettitt respect for that dude . Not a lot of ppl will think first instead of acting of emotion like woman
Apples to Oranges, but good for you?
Exactly
So he pointed out he made a mistake instead of going back to his car to get his loaded gun to shoot you with? Wow man, that's an amazing story of how you dealt with that non-life-threatening situation.
You get the license plate, call it in, talk to an officer, file a claim with your insurance company, get it into a repair shop, live another day.
Exactly what I was thinking since the beginning of the video
Smith was intoxicated, you know what happens when people are under the influence of alcohol they don't think rationally
@@sickojayyy221 he’s saying Hayes should’ve done this.
Most sensible comment in this thread, thank you 🙏🏾
Brotherf...
Best advice/comment I've seen on here by Miles and Miles Bro'!
It's also my course of action if ever necessary?
Although I'm English, living in England. I visit Vancouver alot, to see family? But they don't have as many guns as Americans.
No other option?!?!? Get back in your car and drive away!!!! Live to fight another day.
Thank you
Tough to show empathy to someone who shot another 7 times in the back. Once or twice in self defense makes sense but why unload the clip?
The Pennsylvania Poker Playing Prepper when your fearing for your life that shit happens all the time! Hell even cops forget how much they fire when they are shooting at criminals that are firing back at them
EvilClowns69 no argument here. Just saying from a jurors perspective it’s probably difficult to find innocent. After watching the entire thing I found the fact that it was a split jury insane and Smiths BAC being off the charts should have weighed heavily on the decision. The man would have walked in 48 other states with a hung jury like that. Hope he gets off or a lesser sentence upon appeal.
The Pennsylvania Poker Playing Prepper that’s why I would of gotten a better lawyer if that was me. No offense but when you play the crooked cop defense your gonna lose black lawyer focused to much at playing the race card it even came out in the interview
If you fear for your life then you shoot to kill.. unload the clip.. if not how was you really In fear for your life by shooting once or twice?🤔
How bout you refute the arguement because if you put it that way it sounds bad but listen to what happend
To be honest I see both sides but you've killed someone...
I'm guessing you didn't watch the video.
Le o the whole video was literally talking about the case and the evidence wtf
d d yeah but I thought he was innocent for self defence
Ray pasking there were 3 people ready to attack him and your suggesting that he gets the license plate and reports them later
Remember smith was also the one who hit him first and took off
In self defense
I FEEL YOU MRS. HAYES!! BUT YOUR SON DIDNT HAVE TO SHOOT WILL SMITH 7 TIMES IN THE BACK THO
Exactly
If you are in fear for your life, are you going to shoot to injure them? Or are you going to stop a threat? This same mindset can be applied to police shootings.
I hate when people make excuses for people just cause they’re family. Hell, the children of serial killers have more sympathy than her
It's kind of weird hearing about the killer's family.....he Stop football to work and now he's driving a Hummer🙁🙁🙁🙁he must have got a good ass job
I don’t feel her at all, at the end of the day her son is still alive..
I Feel Bad for his Mom Seems like a Sweet Lady
yeah Me Too I Feel the Same way. But sometimes Bad Things happen to Good People.
I dont. This guy grew up without a father, so he had to give up his dreams to help her with her struggle.
Duane Carver Amen!!!
Creole my man something bout the people here in New orleans
I don't her son killed a man..over kill smh
They also never explained why did Mr Hayes get out with a gun. If a police officer had shot a black man in the back several times, we all would have raised hell
He got out with the gun because the gun is what made him feel empowered in the first place, if he didn’t have the gun he wouldn’t have gotten out of his car.
@@TRIPP98 what kind of stupid thinking is that?
@@TRIPP98 That's stupid logic and is only making a bad situation worse. You shouldn't need to be holding a gun to feel like a man, there were people around and if he really got attacked by Will Smith, he could've just had them call the cops, write down the license plate number, and let the law handle your business for you.
Do you know Louisiana. They say them boys don't play. No man plays these days. He's legally not guilty they said. Things happen sometimes you don't need to go for the juggler. Weighing options.
@@ryapowa you said the same thing you were disputing! Yes, you shouldn't need that but he did exit with it instead of leaving it in the truck. The Biggest Question is why wasn't he nor his partner calling it in at the time of Smith trying to flee the scene of an accident? That gave the court system a lane of intent to do harm charges to sure up the conviction and override that dumb ass stand your ground law (which I keep trying to tell my people it wasn't made for us). Again if there were no guns in play would he still have stood his ground or naw? And I already know for those who know the youngman, more than likely you say he would still stand his ground without it. Then why bring the gun into play? Why out of all the witnesses around that were told to call them boys after the shooting, never saw Smith with nor flash a gun. Where I'm at that means that a drunk old man is on the verge of a severe beating until them boys show up. Just think with one decision how much different things would have gone. Smith jailed for driving under the influence and hit and run. But both men alive to raise their children, but black male seperation from the family unit has been a plan in effect for centuries!
My man @ 39:50 is spot on tbh. If Will Smith was a random black man there's no way Cardell Hayes gets 25 years.
idk man , he probably gets 25 either way, but he gets out in 11 , rather than out in 19
Right
Tom Green dame thing I said
Right
He Shot A Man 7 Times in the Back. Hes getting that time now if he had a badge and white then you have a case
Confrontation is inevitable, combat is optional. Sad situation.
Learning lesson. Both these Men should have went home that night.
Duse Zahid El one should’ve gone home and the other one to jail for drunk driving!!!
Will Smith could of killed someone dont defend drunk drivers.
Gun residue on his hands? So he shot his gun earlier. He beat his wife too as many nfl players do (cte)... they need to expose Will Smith & get this guy out of jail.
R to kfofkt
@@Itsrebekahstar No he deserve to serve his time for murder..He shot a man 8 times in the back..Why do you think he doesn't deserve to serve his sentence?🤔
The cop that killed a man in his own apartment in Texas got less smh
I know right?
real shit man was just in his own house haveing ice cream get shot up. still think she should of got life.
White. Female. Cop. White. Cop.
Different states, different rules. Still f'ed up tho.
@Brando the man, doe sure
The fact that the dude stayed on the scene after the shooting is hugely unusual. Typically, a killer will flee. Sounds like the Saint was no saint.
I think he thought it was going to be Self Defense but 8 shots lost that fight.
Infact the person that fled was Instigator Hernandez, Drunk Driver Will Smiths friend.
@@laydklela9111 yup
@@laydklela9111 why if I'm truly afraid that he's going to get a gun
You sound dumb just because he didn’t run doesn’t mean anything HE SHOT HIM 7-8 TIMES NO EXCUSES I DONT FREL SORRY FOR HIM I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PERSON WHO IS NO LONGER LIVING YOUR SON IS STILL ALIVE HE MAY BE LOCKED UP HOWEVER HE’S STILL LIVING WILL SMITH IS NOT
This falls into the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" category. If people would just slow down, keep calm & try to talk things out instead of going from 0 to 100 in under a second, a lot of murders would never happen.
Cant take away the fact that he shot him 8 times....not once or twice but 8 times
your a idiot and obviously never have fired a firearm before. You can let off 7 shots in just a couple seconds. And especially if its in self defense and your in fear for your life your gunna make sure you shoot first and your gunna make sure you eliminate the threat by letting off as many shots as your magazine holds. When its life and death it's kill or be killed. Eliminate the threat before the threat eliminates you. I'm not at all referring to this situation in particular. I'm referring to be in a situation where you have a firearm and it's kill or be killed and how fast and easy it is to get off 7 shots. 7 shots in a modern handgun is nothing to shoot. Don't be so quick to post something so blatantly false and incorrect when you have no clue what your talking about bcuz there are people that do know and will make you look like a emotional irrational fool. You never trust just 1 or 2 shots. And your definitely not as experienced in firearms as you think you are if your calling the MAGAZINE a clip. Go up to anyone in the military and try to talk about guns and call the mag a clip...they will automatically correct you and change the subject bcuz you obviously have no clue what your talking about.
@@enigma1247 na u rite. In Iraq or something your dumping the whole clip. But when your point blank with that caliber you don't have too let off 8 shots and 7 in the back on top of that. You shoot the chest he turns and falls in the car. Maybe you let off one more. But then you keep your aim on him and say don't move. If he even turns alittle u continue. This isn't a inexperienced gun owner. He knew exactly what too do in that situation. He was definitely mad will Smith punked him and shot too kill. Imo that is.
Okay but that's call heat of the moment. Plus Will Smith isn't a little dude and plus his alcohol levels was beyond High. I could imagine how Mr. Hayes felt. He probably was scared as well. Really thinking it was a gun in that vehicle and two how violent Smith reaction was when he got out the vehicle as well.
@@Mistrinho Exactly💯
Shot once or twice and die, shot 8 times and live. What difference does that make?
This whole story is unfortunate. Smith should have pulled over once he bumped the car. But even though he didn't Hayes should have never bumped his vehicle in retaliation. Lives forever changed over a vehicle bump that probably did little to no damage, smh.
And people shouldn't try to be vigilantes like Hayes. Call the cops and let the law handle it for you, maybe following Smith just enough to give the police the information they need
Right.
@@ryapowa very valid and good comment.
@@dudemusstinkmeyer9843 I mean I'm sure that's not how someone might think in New Orleans but it's sickening for anyone who tries to justify the means of taking someone's life. Smith wasn't an immediate threat and Hayes could've been the bigger person and call the police if he feared that Smith was getting a gun from his car. THERE WERE OTHER OPTIONS.
@henree simp True but how he retaliated after Smith just left is classified as Vehicular Assault and Smith was justifiably upset as a result of purposely getting rammed into. I'm not saying what either one of them did was right, but committing multiple crimes including murder means you need to spend some time in prison. There were other options.
If he was a cop it would have been justified. I thought he was going for a Gun tell me I'm lying. They're not waiting to see.
Nice try Brook, but cardell is free. The Supreme Court threw the case out.
Sad situation, I can understand both sides of this situation. Something tells me Will was no angel in this situation
Once you shoot somebody in the back, 8 times. You're the one to blame. That shows me, he wasn't scared, he was angry and jealous.
Nope
@@fendertremolo9793 Jealous of what, Smith hitting his car and driving off.Please
I agree.
@@fendertremolo9793 will provocated the incident... let’s see, he is driving heavily drunk so he already broke the law .. now you hit someone that’s another broke law ... now you get out and then go back and get your firearm... hmmmm see a pattern.. look past the fact he was an NFL player ... the shots in the back is what did Cardelle in ...
The number of shots and he didn’t miss.... that put him away
If smith had a gun in his car and was turning to get it I’d say it’s self defense. Problem here is hayes hopped out the car with the gun which shows intent he was gonna use it imo.
This is so sad for both families, there is no winners in this tragedy. My heart goes out to everyone is hurting.
"Cardel didn't have a chance to be different." What? Cardel had a chance to be different by not firing EIGHT shots to a man's BACK, but instead could of called the police and tried to resolve the issue that night like men. The liberal vibe here. Sheesh. Both men were in the wrong, but a man did not deserve to die that night. The two men should've handled the night better. Both would we back with their families if they had. Sad.
Probably meaning he was a product of his environment.. Seems like that's all 2/3 of the people from New Orleans know is murder...
Shooting a person eight times in the back. Sounds something like what a conservative card holding NRA member would do
Or the police. So let's not play holy
Big losses for both sides... sad.
This is sad. And I feel sorry for both families. But if I was will having a 90 million dollar contract. I would have pulled over after bumping that man car and offered to buy him a new one. Poor decision making on both sides. SMH
You don't know what you would have done in the Sprit of a heated moment...boy please.
That would be the logical thing to do, but he wasn't in his right mind. He was drunk and made bad decisions. 1. Getting behind the wheel. 2. Hit and run. 3. Getting out your vehicle wanting to fight the person whose car you hit. Alcohol changes your thinking. That's why it's against the law to drive drunk. Ijs
Hayes shot him EIGHT TIMES, with most of the bullets striking Smith in the back. Hayes may not be responsible for initiating the altercation, but you can't damn near empty the clip into an unarmed person and still claim self-defense.
Smith couldve been going back to his car to get his gun, hence the shots to the back. If some drunk dude that was swinging at me goes back and reaches into his car you can bet that id put eight bullets in his back fearing for my life.
In Louisiana you can
Yuck Foutube and cops are wrong so that’s not an excuse
Yes you're right but I think the most important thing was that Cardell Hayes pursued Will Smith and Hit him with his truck. Instead taking down the license plate number and sharing it with the cops!
@@agonforreal and not to mention that guns are legally supposed to be store in the glove compartment. With that in mind, Smith got shot on the left side of his body, glove compartment is on right of the car. Smith could have put his right side of the body inside the car could be perceived as someone who's trying and retrieve his weapon.
I was born and raised in New Orleans "WHO DAT." Both Will Smith and Cordell seem like great people..Sad that this had to happen.
This was senseless ! 💥 They should have exchanged information & went on about their business🤕🤔 Cordell didn't stand a chance against a super bowl hero🤔2 lives lost ... unnecessary🤔
Cardell has been released today the Orleans parish court failed him supreme court didnt welcome home
Welcome Home
Going back in today
The thing he can never get past is the fact he shot him 8 times in the back and Smith didn't have a gun on him at the time of the shooting. Even if he had one in the car, it wasn't on him when he fired those 8 shots into his back.
He was in his car when he got shot and in his car was a loaded handgun
He wanted to kill him
OP is still correct, "Smith didn’t have a gun on him."
@Kerry Hanley not really, if your car has drugs in it the police are still gonna charge it as if it was on you, just like they would do with a gun. Yall just mad a Saints player got killed because of his bad actions that night
@@elbowgang9715 "One important factor to consider is the actual imminence of the threat. The courts have generally interpreted this to mean that the danger must be immediate and present rather than simply impending. In other words, if there is time for the victim to take evasive action, then the danger may not be considered imminent."
The suspect could have easily fled on foot or in his vehicle, this is likely why a jury found him guilty. As point blank as the 8 gunshots in Will Smith's back.
8 times in the back? Sorry he may have feared for his life but to act as if he should just walk free is delusional
I 'll pray for both sides but some of these testimonies are delusional. You can't excuse a death on feelings. The hubris or arrogance and lack of accountability leave me stunned.
A person is dead no caveats. His friends are hurting his case more than he knows. The lack of contrition is glaring you have to side with the prosecution and I hate the state. I never side with the DA or the prosecution. At some point, he has to be sitting in jail and come to terms on his bad choices and bad decision. I think time is the only thing that will bring that about. As long as he keeps listening to his friends and family that he did nothing wrong the more and more this thing festers.
This is sad truly sad. smh sorry, maybe that 25 is needed.
Michael brown was shot twice in the face by an officer. Officer feared for his life. He got off
They both hard it coming
The law is the law; people always want to argue it when it comes to applying it to benefit a person of color..Do I think he should have chase after him; not to the point of confronting him, get license plate, you have a witness. Hey the attorney stated the law; witnesses say Will was the aggressor and he went to retrieve his gun, would have been better if he had waited for him to exit the vehicle with the gun then shot (if you couldn't leave the area) but the law state if you are in danger of losing your life at the hand of a person; you can shot to kill in self defense. That Louisiana law. Why should anyone have a problem with that if it's the law?!
Too many people are on this strand making excuses. In life we all have choices
He chose to chase that vehicle down.
Maybe he felt confident in chasing because he did have a gun. (decision number 1)
He chose to ram the vehicle
Maybe having gun gives you the confidence in doing so. (decision number 2)
He chose to get out of the car brandishing the said firearm. (decision number 3)
At each point, he chose to escalate.
At each decision fueled by his toxic masculinity and the energy of his friend in the car he made a decision that cost him his freedom
He chose to empty the clip into a stranger back ( decision number 4)
This isnt football this isnt a game this was real life. His friend failed him that night a real friend would have said naw my dude lets just get the license and move on.
I guess not wanting to be no punk makes you say come on let's get him.
Welp, you got him................Now he's doing 25 and you on the outside heartbroken and a family on both sides is broken.
2 wrongs dont make a right and eye for an eye leaves us all blind. He murdered a man he's where he's supposed to be. In Prison.
Its serious its real its whats happens when you make bad decisions. Prison is full of men who made poor decisions. We dont have time machines in real life we only get one life. That's why that extra beat you pause with is the difference between making a good decision or an impulsive decision.
All this talk about how this man was not a violent person he's a good man. There are plenty of good men in prison who have committed murder. How you see him as a father a husband or son does not absolve him of his crime. You can still love a man who is flawed and who made a mistake folks.
7 times in the back
They both played a major part in this smh
There is an update in the case: On January 11, 2021, the Supreme Court vacated Hayes' conviction, pending a new trial. Because Hayes was initially convicted on manslaughter, he cannot face charges greater than manslaughter in the retrial
Found guilty again...
I feel for Cardell's mom/family. I believe the ppl in the barber shop when they say they knew him to be a good person. But 3 things bother me 1) When Smith hit and ran- that car bump was not serious enough to chase Smith down and violently hit the back of his car. This New Orleans. Why would u do that? 2) Smith was walking back to his car and was shot in the back at close range- 8 times. EIGHT. Times. That's not fear, that's anger. 3) He shot the wife. She saw him shoot her. He shot her. The F&%K why? This took a lot out of our city. Sharply divided. Prayers for all the families involved.
Agreed
May he rest in peace my condolences to his entire family such a sad story tragedy and a terrible crime
Cardell is POS. How tf can he be a good person and shoot someone that many times? Clown take.
Did you watch the video? He didn’t shoot the wife, Smith did. They covered that up. As far as the initial accident, of course you go after the car that just hit your very expensive car and ran-I would. You are also forgetting that Smith was drunk off his ass and very aggressive to the point he went for his loaded gun where he accidentally shot his wife. I do agree with you about the eight shots though-very excessive.
@Marco Miranda Smith's gun was found still in the holster tucked between the seats and had not been fired. Hays shot 9 shots that night. All 9 casings were from his gun. The court documents are online. It is what it is.
Y’all saying 8 shots is excessive - cops double that number against victims that DON’T have a weapon, and they get away with it.
I am not justifying that bullshit either.
Josh Treviño that doesn’t make it right or change anything it’s still not self defence whether cops do it or not
Daniel Butcher exactly! Because cops do it too don’t make it right.
Josh Treviño exactly! hayes should’ve gotten jail time but not 25 years. maybe like 5-10. police get 0 with very little justification 🤷🏾♀️
Sumter SC. Do your research
Shooting someone in the back 7 times is crazy tho.. let's all be real.. I'm not saying who guilty and who not just that's pretty crazy...
your a idiot and obviously never have fired a firearm before. You can let off 7 shots in just a couple seconds. And especially if its in self defense and your in fear for your life your gunna make sure you shoot first and your gunna make sure you eliminate the threat by letting off as many shots as your magazine holds. When its life and death it's kill or be killed. Eliminate the threat before the threat eliminates you. I'm not at all referring to this situation in particular. I'm referring to be in a situation where you have a firearm and it's kill or be killed and how fast and easy it is to get off 7 shots. 7 shots in a modern handgun is nothing to shoot. Don't be so quick to post something so blatantly false and incorrect when you have no clue what your talking about bcuz there are people that do know and will make you look like a emotional irrational fool. You never trust just 1 or 2 shots. And your definitely not as experienced in firearms as you think you are if your calling the MAGAZINE a clip. Go up to anyone in the military and try to talk about guns and call the mag a clip...they will automatically correct you and change the subject bcuz you obviously have no clue what your talking about.
silver scape no ur an idiot
You don't think about how many times you've shot someone when you are in fear of your life.
Nobody is an idiot ppl react differently to situations. Cardell got out he car with his gun, Will did not. It’s multiple reactions that could have had a part that night smart, fear, anger.... I think we can all agree it wasn’t smart. Fearful ppl shouldn’t carry guns simple as that. 🤔 Anger told Will to out the car swinging fear told Cardell to stay....Anger told Cardell to get out the car with his gun Fear told Will to go back to his car.... EGO crashed into them both and they didn’t see it coming!!
He’s not trained, Cardell feared for his life and he was scared so he just pulled the trigger
This couldve all been avoided! I knew it had to be something like Smith being intoxicated the reason he hit them and ran. But going after him to the point where it ended in someones death and your life being gone couldve been avoided by getting his tag number and calling the police. Yea i get it, i wouldve been heated too if somebody hit me and ran. But life is so much more important. You can get your car fixed, but 2 people lives are gone! You didnt shoot once, but you shot 8 times and made sure this man was dead. He probably thought Smith was heading back to get a gun, but damn...... 8 times!!!!!! Sad situation!
He didn’t run he pulled off half a block of the main strip where it happened
Most altercations like this can be avoided….but humans are emotional beings, & some handle those emotions better than others. There are prisons all over the globe, full of people who got overly emotional & couldn’t keep it in check.
There is stories of homeowners shooting burglers in the back as they ran away, after robbing them and the homeowner getting sentenced. Any person who carries a gun has to be prepared to defend their actions in court. And shooting someone whos back is turned is "No longer a threat to your life". Common sense and a cool head would result in a completely different story. I feel sad for the family, But they are not Victims.
@Gabe Gonzalez It's a law my dude. Even if a burglar is in your home, if he starts to run away you can't shoot him in the back, it's called a fleeing felon. You will get charged. People have to know the laws of the state they live in. The problem is people assume what the laws are.
The victim told him he was going to get a gun and shoot him. The victim then turned around and reahed into his vehicle for a weapon. Why would i then wait for the guy to turn around with hin gun and shoot me.
@@djkoz1 You are mixing apples with oranges. A buglar running away and a angry man making a threat and acted on that threat by reaching for a weapon. Is two different things.
Look up the law in TX "you mess with a man's property, that man as the right to shoot you!" I'd shot that man to if you mess with my property, don't wanna get shot will than follow the law.
@@Lokey_8664 I was commenting on Gabe Gonzalez comment on homeowners shooting burglars and getting sentenced bruh! That's not apples and oranges. SMH
I find it real hard to grasp shooting him 7 times in the back. That can't be self defence.
Exactly. If those bullets had gone in the front this story would be completely different.
This was very well put together. Never knew the details of this case until I watched this. I always thought cardell was dead wrong but after watching this I kind of changed my perspective. Though I still think 8 shots was unnecessary.
So you think he deserved to be shot AT ALL because of a hit and run and because he was yelling while having a gun held on him and then trying to get back in his car. It's just the amount of shots that bothers you? Cute
Liz did you read any of the facts to this case or are you just commenting? Because it sounds like you don’t know anything
@@Shananjones21 The facts are that an NFL star is above the law.
USA Citizen big facts!!!!!!! Shows How much of an influence the NFL has
@@zarablue2020 Will Smith is a violent felon who ran at/attacked the other driver, and risked ppl's lives by DUI at 3 times the legal limit -- *so one dead and the other in jail sounds good to me,* except that jails should make violent gangster inmates work to pay the costs of their own incarceration (slave labor).
Such a horrible tragedy. Will smith made the first mistake but Cardell Jones made the last one. He is where he needs to be.
When you shoot someone in the back more then once it's very hard to clam self defense
How is shooting someone 7 times in the back self defense 🤔
Aisha Powell if you feel your life threaten then you shoot to kill. Handle your business don’t let your business handle you.
If he's walking away from him, how is that self defense
One more time idiot this fool was drunk, and threated to go for his gun while going back to his car digging under his seat. Plus there was a gun found in the vehicle. New Orleans politcs make me sick.
Aisha Powell right
Like Jim told Joe , I don't know thats why he probably went to prison!
I feel sorry for Hayes’ friends and family but they all buggin. You don’t shoot someone in the back 7 times in self defense. I feel the most sympathy for Cordell’s son because his dad is locked up because the whole situation could have been avoided. We gotta do better as black men. Sometimes the best solution is to walk away. They could both still be living their lives if someone had the sense enough to walk away 😔💯
It could have been avoided if thr was no drinking an driving
@@anaizferris9561 or emptying a clip into someone's back
You do to keep them from grabbing a gun cops do it
@@anaizferris9561 or no road rage.
You get shot in the back when you head toward your car and the mf you tried assaulting doesn't know whether or not you're on your way to shoot back. 🤷
This entire situation is absolutely awful.
Cordell Hayes’ friend is everything 😍😍. Never knew the true details behind this case and it’s heart breaking on both sides.
Krissy S. I said the same thing sis 😍😂 whole thing is definitely sad though
Oh yeah? Well if he was such a great friend, maybe he should’ve been extra EXTRA prepared to take the stand instead of getting up there and sinking Hayes’ whole defense.
I've always said that people who feel powerful while carrying a gun shouldn't be carrying one. Based on the fact that they will be more willing to put themselves in a dangerous situations than if they were unarmed. It takes a lot of responsibility to carry a gun and very few people are not responsible enough to do so.
Well said. 👍✌
So he shoots him in *the back 8 times ?*
This isnt self defense if u *shoot somebody in the back 8 times*
UhhKeanan he had to go.
M B kool
It is if they are going for a gun.
It’s called fear
@@johnabram5566 the hard part is proving he was going for a gun even if one was found in the car, no proof he was going for it. That's why he's in jail
it’s a sad situation but Smith doesn’t deserve special treatment because he’s a notable figure.
It seems like will started. He hit dude truck and drove off. No accountability. He deserved to be in the ground. Get Hayes outta jail now. Period
YOU ARE RIGHT. HOWEVER, EXPLAIN TO ME, THE KILLER SHOT THIS GUY WIFE AND SHOT THE HUSBAND 7 TIMES IN THE BACK AND SUPPOSE TO BUCK ASS GO HOME FREE. THIS WAS NOT A CASE OF TWO MEN FIRING A WEAPON AT EACH OTHER, THE KILLER SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRYING A WEAPON AND FIRING IT. THE KILLER COULD HAVE JUST CALLED THE COP, BUT INSTEAD HE WENT AFTER THE DRUNK DRIVER AND FIRED 7 TIMES IN THE MAN BACK, IT WAS NOT JUST 1 SHOT, BUT 7 TIMES AND SHOT THE MAN WIFE. FUCK THE HITTING OF THE CAR, WAS IT WORTH THAT MAN LIFE AND HIM SERVING TIME. TO KEEP FIRING INTO THIS MAN BACKAND KEPT ON SHOOTING IS DEAD ASS WRONG. WHERE WAS HIS LIFE IN DANGER WHEN HE IS THE ONLY ONE FIRING HIS FUCKING GUN. HE IS WHERE HE SUPPOSE TO BE.
@@theodorebaker5483 see your logic alone let's me know you live in a millionaire mansion...here's a life lesson for you...the rules of engagement. 1. Nobody cares about him being drunk as Will chose to drink and drive 2. The pulled out his weapon after Will aggressively hit his car and kept driving instead of pulling over and exchanging insurance info 3. Will was with his wife so 9 times out of 10 will was probably showing off and threaten dude 4. The pulled his weapon out and I wouldn't let you back to your car because I don't know if you have a weapon in your car 5. You ALWAYS shoot to kill and not injure 6. Will had ample opportunities to do the right prior to the shooting and simply choose not to. 7. His wife had ample opportunities to do the right thing and she simply chose not 8. RIP Will, you play stupid games and win stupid prizes
@@dell7443 ☝🏽
Malcolm Exxx : Exactly.
This man cordell stayed at that scene due to the fact that he thought that he was going to be able to get away with self defense but shooting someone in the back let alone 8 times is not self defense
It's not an easy call as will swung at him, (showing aggression) he was with other people who were also angry, was drunk, and could very well have been going for his own weapon. Will was also 6'7 so several shots when you think your own life is at danger is warranted.
OMG 8 shots true that was not defense It was a cruel murder. I pray he faces the wrath of God
@@Joyful-gu5bj 8 shots, but its at a group of men who are pissed off and marching towards you and your wife? after they did a hit and run because they were drunk??
Yeah it's a bitch move, glad he's in jail
@@Homeboy8227 it wasn't him and his wife it was him and his friends. Smith was his wife js. I agree with you tho
I wish everyone would have handled it differently...like lance Moore said.
Will Smith should have pulled over and settled it he would be alive now cardell should have not reacted the way he did but fate has a really messed up way of doing things
Danny Edelman Cardell basically reacted in self defense but you right it shouldn’t of went that far
@@billiondolladreams775 It was murder.
@@SumDumGai5 luckily only 25 years.
@@Dad-lu1oi You do realize that's a long ass time, right, Junior?
Nigga went in there at 28, won't be out until he's 53
Bless that poor moms heart, she’s a beautiful woman that deserves some sort of happiness... sad
My heart breaks for both families. If Cordell is rly a good man, this will haunt him forever. I don't understand how Smith had gun powder on his hands. They made Smith look like a saint but he was drunk driving & hit & running, it's a tragedy but I believe Cordell panicked or truly feared for his life or he wouldn't have pulled that trigger 8 times
Went from self defense with 1 shot. To murder with the next 7.
Mark Meza 7 shots??.... That's all I keep saying to myself... 7... Anger and Emotions behind a trigger is a bad bad mix..
ZeroChill 215 Yupp for sure man
@@TripleDTx214 There are a few flaws in the law in Louisiana if everyone in this video is claiming that self defense shooting laws allow for the use of force to "kill" an attacker. This is a systemic issue in the possession of a firearm without proper training and situational awareness. Proper training in the use of and possession of firearm and for self defense should always emphasize the defense in removing the "threat". When a law is written to emphasize that self defense is allowable to "kill" in a particular state, it now renders the jury to look at the shooting as "shoot to kill" as opposed to "shoot to eliminate the threat". So if it was one shot or two and he neutralized the threat, he might have been acquitted on self defense. Without proper understanding of the use of the firearm in self defense and cause and effect...which we see all too often with concealed carry (mind you I am concealed carry self defense advocate)...people cross over past the point of no return and in the heat of the moment it was too late! It was said once that you train and educate on the use of the firearm 99% so when you cross over to the 1% you have made every assessment and effort necessary before doing so. Sad because as a die hard Saints fan it was a sad day. As a human it was a sad day for this man because I don't believe he was a killer...but everything was stacked up against him the second he engaged a New Orleans Saint and unloaded most of his pistol's "magazine" into the back of a man. Tough situation!!!! Wish it never happened for all involved!
The first shot didn't bring will smith down, and he was still going for his gun. Hayes shot until he was no longer a threat like he did.
In Virginia that wouldve been attempted murder no self defense
Man I feel for both sides. Poor kids have to go without they're dads. Sad situation.
Their*
I feel bad for cardell mother,he is where he's at because you shot a man in back 7 times you can't justify that in no kind of way, you just can't
Cops can unfortunately
This is exactly what I was thinking, but then I finished the video, and they mentioned how Will Smith threatened to grab a gun from his car and that they did later find a loaded one in his car
@@owens781781lol so you're saying that you get to kill someone because they said they'd get a gun. This idiot could've got back in his vehicle and he'd still be playing amateur football somewhere.
Lance Moore thought he was 19 in the nfl 😂 😂 too many headshots
LMFAO
😂😂😂
That's what I was thinking lmao
😂😂
He also thinks gun laws help gun violence. It's been proven gun laws only affect law abiding owners. Criminals will continue to get guns no matter what laws are on the books. Look at Chicago, for example.
The mother blames football for her son being in prison. You sure it doesn't have anything to do with your son shooting someone 8 times.
That part
Regardless of that fact she made good points and I understood where she was coming from. They hung her son to honor their “hero” smhhh
David Joyce yeah she sounds crazy
David Joyce Exactly!! He murdered this man. He should be put away for life
@John Smith He probably would've ended up murdered himself in the streets of New Orleans..He probably was one of those people who loved to prove he's tuff or whatever...
8 shots in the back self-defence?!?!?!? Understanding Will Smith was acting Reckless but at the end of the day all said and done eight shots in the back and claim self-defense ain't going to work!!
He could of been walking to get a weapon you don’t know what happened really. NFL player whooping your ass then walks away?
I feel you but you can’t judge if you haven’t been in that situation. If the man was allegedly drunk and swinging on him, you don’t know if he’s going back in the car to get HIS gun.
Unfortunate situation nonetheless, just wish it didn’t escalate so quickly.
@Gilbert Gonzales *cost
@@mbuvito I agree but have you been in situations where it did escalate that fast? I sure have. If Smith was going for his gun, I ask myself, would I wait for him to grab it and begin emptying the clip into me? I don't think that I would empty my clip into his back first, but it's easy to say that. I wasn't there under that pressure.
It only make sense when white police are shooting unarmed Black folks in the back!!
Terrible situation. As a Saints fan I was furious and very sad. It’s beautiful to see the other persons life and helps me to have grace. Gold bless both men’s sons and family in Jesus name 🙏🏼
I'm from Louisiana... I know from personal friends if you shoot someone in the back its almost impossible to get "self defense" awarded to you. Knowing how corrupt the legal system is here I absolutely do believe this man had an unfair trial. Is just a very unfortunate situation.
Damn 25 years for manslaughter. I was thinking like 10 years or something....
He should have gotten the chair
JR Torres ignorant
@@jrtorres4530 your momma should get the chair!
Amber Guyger, found guilty of murder, not manslaughter, got 7 years.
The man shot will in the back 8 times
This was deep. I must say that i went into this thinking something completely different than what i took away from it. This is a very sad story and both families are hurt. They way they painted the shooter was as if he was a thug. I am a rival of the saints and live in Atlanta and when we heard about this here it was as if some gangster or thug has done this to Will. Seeing this I don’t think that now. I am interested in seeing where this goes because this is a really unfortunate situation and there are 3 sides to every story. I will be praying for both families.
I had it in for the shooter just looking at the picture of him
Now I no the facts I change my opinion
Don’t judge before you no the facts
Cardell is a good guy and comes from a nice family. Will Smith was known for assault women here in the clubs with multiple police reports, and beat his wife ass also. Will Smith shot his own wife that's why they didn't take the bullets out her leg.
He was released like 5 months ago. He's getting a new trial. Supreme Court ruled it was unconstitutional because he had a 10/2 split.
And yet will smith is still dead. Smh
@@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE he was a piece of shit. don't idolize athletes and celebrities
@@ASimpleHeroinUser I'm not idolizeing anyone just stating a fact even if he was a piece of shit no one deserves to get shot in the back 7 times for a little 80 dollar fender bender and was his wife such a piece if shit she deserved to get shot also in your opinion? Will has also done alot of good for new orleans but I'm sure u forget that
Thank god. Saints pulled some bullshit in that court
@@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE will was drunk and I’m pretty sure he was headed back to the truck to get his loaded weapon…. A person that was already swinging on the guy and now about to get a gun… yea I say that’s self defense… self defense is when you fear for your life
Fact is he shot the dude 8 times in the back.
NlneLives210 don’t mean anything
What is your point??
Tyrone Biggums who?
Big Ing original post
@@bigingtv7315 only a coward shoots a person in the back.
1) After Cardell Hayes was hit. He then pursued Will Smith. He even hit Will Smith from behind too. Therefore this could have been avoided if Cardell Hayes simply followed and got the license plate number to give to the cops!
2) Though Hernandez and Will Smith were the aggressor. You put yourself in that situation by hitting them back with your car!
3) It looked like Cardell Hayes purposely slammed his breaks. You don't see any TRAFFIC or car in front of Cardell Haye vehicle. Will Smith passed him and you see that there is no cars in front of Cardell Hayes!
4) You're 6'6 280+ pounds and you have your friend there that can fight with you. Even though Hernandez escalated it by taking off his shirt. That meant it was going to be fight NOT a GUN BATTLE!! A FIGHT! You fight but you live another day!
5) Cardell Hayes put out his gun first! Another escalating. You a big guy you can fight instead of shooting! Yes Will Smith was drunk but that means you can beat him up! Being that Cardell Hayes FOLLOWED Will Smith makes him in the wrong!
6) You telling me you had to shoot the guy in the back 7 times?? Please! But I get it. Once you shoot there is no turning back. It's either you or him!
7) The reason why I'm against Cardell Hayes defense is because he pursued the vehicle and could have taken down the license plate number instead hitting them back with his truck. If you're going to do that. Then you're looking to fight which is what Cardell Hayes got. But he was too much of a punk to fight! He instead chose a GUN!!!
8) You can judge me but I rather fight you then KILL you!
Facts. Will Smith was the aggressor and initially was in the wrong, but Cardell needlessly escalated the situation. He deserves time.
I could make the case that he was reaching for his own weapon.
Riiiight
@@nomads7978 Absolutely but remember who pulled out the gun first. If Will Smith came out to fight. He came out to fight. But not to have a gun fight. Hayes does deserve jail time because he did escalate the situation by taking revenge and crashing his truck into Will Smith's truck.
@@codiemcneil4677 yep I am
SHOOT 7 TIMES IN THE BACK????????
8x.
Camilo Gomez It is basically an execution.
Shot not shoot. Figures
Guess you can't do it unless you're a cop shooting a black man. Rhen it's ok
Its a sad story it truly is. Two good men in a situation that shouldn't of happened. But unfortunately regardless of who you are and what you've done in the past... in one moment you can make a decision to ruin your life. Cardell was probably a great kid growing up... but he made the decision shooting a man 7 times in the back.
lmao two good men dont do end up in that situation
Exacy
domestic Abuser
What would the police do if the opposition ran back to their car?
They would of gta style his ass lol
And then we would be protesting the killing of an unarmed black man. The only reason this is difficult is because it wasn’t a white man that was shooting
Have a war on his ass and smile in court
Edit: probably not even end up in a court tbh
35 shots is the back for that one.
0:58 Is where I'm at in this video, but I will state this....
I visited New Orleans with my 6 years old daughter earlier this year (2019) and as we walked the streets of the 6th ward, I remember us being almost hit a few times by RUDE, DISRESPECTFUL drivers.
As I observed these disgusting individuals driving, my prevalent thoughts were "I see why niggas get killed out here, at an alarming rate."
**They were beyond inconsiderate, and driving around with that attitude can only lend itself to tragedy.**
I haven't watched this video yet, so I can't state who was at fault.
My comment is to let the reader know, don't sum this up to jealousy or whatever. The underlying issue in a lot of these stranger-to-stranger murders has to do with lack of COURTESY!
Hey LAs.... about 12 years ago I was looking for work and found some in Vegas...I work construction...So.off I went to Vegas and I could see that there was all kinds of construction going on ...So I started saving my money to move my Wife and Son out to Vegas cuz of all the work...being from Los Angeles area I grew up being very observant...So the first thing I noticed was all the concrete trucks and cranes...I could see dollar signs...I called home and checked with the wife...she said sure I'm for it...
Then I started noticing all the Ambulances going this way that way...Vegas is so crazy that people get hit by cars all the time there....people are drunk & high driving way too fast...I started to second guess my decision...One night the crew and I went out to Boulder Hwy for a great cheap dinner...6 bucks for a full Ribeye dinner...I'd been going there by myself for a week or more so I turned the guys on to it, so we show up and being a gentleman I held the door open and while doing so just took a look around ya know...took notice of a guy sitting at a covered bus stop...went in had a 20 minute wait and we all had dinner...so we walk outside and I thought I was in The Twilight Zone...the fucking bus stop was gone.... puzzled I walked back in and asked the greeter....I could of sworn that there was a bus stop out there....He said....yep there was and A guy sitting in it...some drunk lady plowed into it and the guy died....in the 45 minutes we spent enjoying dinner a Man lost his life a woman was going to prison for 7 years and they had a clean up crew come in and remove all traces...where the steal went into the concrete had been cleanly cut off and swept up...all's that remained was a couple handfuls of shattered glass... Needless to say we never moved to Vegas....I ain't bringing my only child in to this.... Please be safe .... Eric Underwood class of 81 Downey High School California
@@ericunderwood1482 Quite the interesting story, Eric Underwood class of 81 Downey High School California
Very well written
Then don’t come back
Very unfortunate event for both families. It's just so sad how everything went down.
Over a piss-ass fender pender
I understand Hayes mother being heartbroken but come on you’re son did something horrible and unnecessary. However, Hayes stayed at the scene, that’s rare. He might’ve been railroaded but he put himself in that position. He should’ve gotten the plate number and called 911
He stayed because he didnt want to make it worst