My mother will always be my mother. Although she's passed, I'll always honor her ON MOTHER'S DAY. #notallmoms is selfish, entitled and embarrassing. Shameful.
@@thedadvocate I'd like to hear if these people are of the same opinion when all of a sudden it is they who are being pushed out of Mother's Day based on totally arbitrary age restrictions on who counts as someone's child.
The Dadvocate is what happens when feminism is really, truly, about equality and not swapping places on privilege. Now, I absolutely do not mind women, mothers or not, having the opportunity to enjoy some privilege. Fair is fair. As long as everybody recognizes that it is privilege.
@rmdodsonbills ...this comment has bad vibes. Like. You don't Mind women having some privileges? I'm not trynna start a fight here just. Genuinely read your own comment and tell me it's not....weirdly misogynist.
@@chickenanon Maybe I should have capitalized "Privilege" to make it clear that I'm talking about that Privilege that men have enjoyed for millennia. But Privilege is Privilege and I'm generally not in favor. If an auto shop advertised their services by implying that women generally were incompetent under the hood would that be misogynist? Then tell me what to call it when a grocery store chain advertises by implying that all men are incompetent in the kitchen. Some day we'll get to real equality and neither one will be acceptable. In the meantime, I don't complain about the second one because having sexism on the other foot for a while on the road to equality might be helpful. So enjoy your Privilege as I enjoy mine.
You should check out Alison Armstrong. I expect that she had an influence on ‘Dadvocate’ at some point. Her books and podcast appearances are almost exclusively aimed at women, but it’s so refreshing to listen/read as a man because she really understands us.
$10 says that the mothers saying this would be absolutely broken-hearted if their adult kids, or hell, even their teenage kids, didn't wish them a happy Mother's Day because they aren't "in the trenches" anymore. It's fine for them to invalidate mothers whose children have grown until it's them who's being invalidated for the exact same reason /s
@kylebaryonyx9478 what will actually happen is when these women grow-up they will say mothers day is only for the women who already went through it and the in the trenches moms won't get it until they graduate their kids from the home.
@@TheKoolsmoker emphasis on "grow up". these are children that have had kids and think they now have authority. imagine being so self centered you think you can dictate who can celebrate mother's day.
My condolences. I lost mine last September. I, and my siblings, still raised a toast to her this year and like to think she could see it wherever she may be now.
"What's funny is you know that dad's would never argue over stuff like this. Ain't none of y'all's husbands or fathers having any sort of argument about this. Those boys are happy if they just get a *sock* ." This is an extremely true and very telling statement.
@@notusingmyname4791 It'll fill the gap of that lost sock you don't know about yet so that you still have a pair. Whether they match or not is completely different matter. lol
I am 48 I will ALWAYS give flowers, cards and if she has the opportunity either Brunch or Dinner! She sacrificed herself to raise me and LOVES her grandchildren!
The people saying that are basically saying that they don't respect their own mom. For them, having kids means that you get to move over to the receiving side of Mothers Day and do not need to give anything to their mom.
Technically in my country we have Grandmother's Day for grandmas but grandmas still celebrate Mother's Day with their kids (so curent generation parents)
At this point I'm quietly confident men don't actually oppress women much at all anymore, most complaints I see these days are things men couldn't care less about that are enforced, promoted and expected by other women
Glad my mom scoffs at "Mother's day". Her reason: "If you only love me on some made up holiday, i raised a lousy son." So i make her dinner once a month when i visit, any day should be Mother's day.
I'm a 28 year old man and I still celebrate my 53 year old Mom. It never stops just because I become a grown-ass man. I thanked her for keeping me safe as a little kid, and keeping me in mind when I can take care of myself.
It definitely doesn't stop. In fact, I believe that age and life experience only deepens this appreciation beyond what a child or teen could comprehend.
40 here. Mama is 72 next month. She didn't stop being my mom suddenly one day. Yeah, I'm more likely to have to carry and help her now for medical reasons, but she's still my mom.
My adult stepchildren honor me on mother's day along with their other moms. I also had the best time with my Mom. There was more than enough love to go around.❤
Disagree kinda I agree mom can celebrate mil grams and can celebrate mother's day But if you were raised by a single mom and no uncle or grandfather is stepping up giving a father's day gift to your single mom is ok. I've given gifts to grandpa when he was alive and an uncle one year but mom got the default. Same imo for single fathers filling both rolls if a kid made something in school and no ladies stepped up then give it to him. It's ok for a kid to tell their parents thanks for doing both. An acknowledgement " your doing your best" As long as their not tearing someelse down
@@ALunarLight I think it's more about single moms thinking that they also *deserve* Father's Day. It's all well and good if a child of a single mother wants to celebrate their mom on that day for taking on both roles, but they can't expect anyone else to entertain that idea.
@@ALunarLight Every year there's videos of people arguing that single moms must be included on Father's Day. That's lame. Kids can give their mom something they made school of course, nobody cares about that.
@@grennhald Funnily enough they say nothing about single dads being included on Mother's Day I guess? The comment section has the right idea, everyone makes the "correct" day of the year special and we leave it up to the kids to decide if any other days get celebrated.
Grandmother is still a mother! You’d be freaking lucky to still have your grandmother with you! Cherish her and love her just as much as you cherish your own mother.
@notusingmyname4791 No. If you're a single mother, you should encourage your child to find a respectable, male, father figure and celebrate them. Maybe it's an uncle, maybe it's a grandfather, I don't know. Children need a strong male character in their life. The research is very clear about this. Especially boys. Young boys NEED a strong, intelligent, kind, and trustworthy male role model. I hate to point this out, but woman do not understand what it's like to be a man in today's world. Woman can't raise men. In the off chance that it does work, usually the child ends up stumbling into how to be a man, and doesn't really receive any guidance from their mother.
Mother's Day: "Pamper mom! Celebrate her! Give her a day off!" Father's Day: "What do you mean you're tired? You've got a whole day of spending time with your kids ahead of you!"
My sister is dying of cancer and is on hospice. Her three grown children made sure she was remembered this past Mother’s Day. I’m pretty sure she’s earned it.
My mother is newly widowed and dealing with everything that comes with it. She was remembered this mother's day as well, despite her youngest being 39. I called my sister as well for good measure; she's a mother even if she isn't my mother.
The women who are saying "This holiday is only for those in the trenches" in 15 years will be saying "This holiday is only for those who've survived the trenches". This isn't an attempt to legitimately gatekeep a holiday to keep it from losing significance. This is an attempt to make it all about her, and she will continue to fight for "all about her" for the rest of her life.
I was taught that mother's day is a day for anyone who is/was a mother, and it just makes sense. Learning about all this polarization over mother's day just makes me believe that contemporary culture is all about making simple things complex enough that everyone feels utterly miserable...
Good point! The times you could celebrate Mother's Day as a kid are also times when you didn't fully appreciate what you were celebrating. That's actually a great reason to hold that Mother's Day applies to your own mom later in life as well.
I'm 52 and my Mom is 74. She struggles with COPD and has to be on oxygen and have a nurse come visit her every week. She's still my Mom and she still has wisdom to pass on to me. She wasn't feeling well Sunday so we'll be having Mother's day next week. Dad is cooking a special meal and Sis is coming over. I got her a nice card. Thanks for being the adult in the room once again, Lauren.
I love what you do and what you say. It's so refreshing to see and hear a woman talk sense and work hard at seeing all sides of an issue instead of letting her emotions dictate the direction. And I don't mean that as a negative reflection on all women, we need your emotions and your unique feminine views. Without them, we would be in rough shape, but like all things, moderation. I'm lucky enough to have a partner who can view all sides of a debate and who will sometimes call me out on not being emotional enough, or at least not recognizing when emotion needs to spill out before rational thought can take over. I have tons more to say on this, but really, you're doing a fantastic job!
My gramma’s battling cancer right now. She raised me since I was a baby. But yeah no, I shouldn’t wish her a happy mother’s day and get her her favorite roses and ice cream! Thanks internet! 👍
I hope you're all doing okay. I've luckily not had someone close to me fighting cancer but I imagine is a very depressing time for everyone involved. Make sure you keep yourself well and I hope your gran pulls through. Make sure that she gets those roses and ice cream!
Thank god you only get one......soon to be common take......no mothers just automatically deserve anything......good job, you spread your legs and spent the rest of your life advocating against fathers day......the folks who really do things for the family.
Same here. I wish it even more for my siblings. 2 of them were still in school when our mom passed. I'm not saying it wasn't rough for me but I was grown.
Being a mother is a lifetime endeavor. She doesn't stop worrying about you when you graduate high school. She's constantly thinking of you. Are you ok? Work treating you well? Have you eaten? Are you drinking water? I don't care if I lived to be 100. If my mom were still here, I'd celebrate her every damn day, and I'd go extra hard on Mother's Day.
"In the trenches" is military slang for front-line units. Its meaning is "we deal directly with the opponent while everyone stands back and helps". These moms are basically saying "I'm better because I do all the work and take all the crap.
The problem comes when they don’t realize their own mothers haven’t been through the trenches themselves. I was the POGest of POGs in the military so to see privates tell their superiors that they don’t know shit when they’ve been through the same shit would be comical to me.
"In the trenches" is military slang for front-line units. Its meaning is "we deal directly with the opponent while everyone stands back and helps". These women see their children as enemy combatants?
This would be like the armed forces insisting that Veteran's Day is only for actively deployed people and not for people for those that served in the past.
@@Karajorma It's not actually analogous at all, though. Mother's Day is for mothers with kids at home *and* mothers whose kids have grown. Veterans Day is only for *veterans*, not people currently in the military. A better example would be to say that Presidents Day is only for the current President and not those who aren't in office anymore.
President’s Day is actually only for one president. We made it into something else out of historical ignorance. President’s Day is the observance of George Washington’s birthday.
The work a women puts in as a Mother DOES NOT cease to hold importance regardless whether her children are kids, teens or adults. Lets continue to celebrate all Mothers regardless of their age, because THEY ARE STILL MOTHERS
As a life long mamas boy who lost my mom to liver cancer when I was only 31, (I'm 41 now.) I can't put into words how much it hurts to hear people say this. I would give anything for one more mother's day with her.
My mother Is both my roommate and one of my closest confidants. She raised me, and has supported me through some of the toughest times of my life. And to say that she doesn't deserve a day for "her" because she's not a new mother is an insult to her and the billions of other mothers out there.
We gave flowers with my sister to our mother, our aunt because there's noone else that would, and our lovely old neighbour who's like family to us because she has daughter abroad for 15 years.
This pisses me off so much! My mom deserves to be celebrated! She's a wonderful Grammy to her grandchildren and she raised 5 of us! I live quite the distance from her right now. Moving back home to help take care of her next month, she was just diagnosed with cancer (stage 4). I pray she's around for next mother's day and for at least 40 more after that. Always celebrate your mother -no matter how old you are- on Mother's Day!!! Appreciate her while you have her. I'm terrified that my time is running out with my mom. And I don' t know how I'll live without her. She's always been there.
My wife and her sister are both mothers and their mother expects them to go WAY out of their way and basically kowtow to her at the expense of their own holiday. The 1st year my wife and sister-in-law had kids on Mother's Day my mother in law expected lavish gifts and for both our families to spend the whole day over there, and she didn't even get her daughters gifts. So I definitely understand where these "in the trenches" folks are coming from. I think mothers of adult children still deserve their flowers of course, but mom's of younger children should be celebrated as a priority over their own mother's and grandmothers.
As a grandparent, the most important mother in my life is my own 84 year old mother. But I also celebrate my wife, my daughter, and two of my sisters who are also mothers.
For Mother’s Day this year we had time just the two of us on Friday night, on Saturday hung out with his Mom, and Sunday I hung out with my mom and grandma. I sent flowers to my dad’s grandma. My parents go see their parents every Mother’s Day. I think that’s sweet. I don’t have kids so it’s easier for me to do it this way. But maybe if people have trouble celebrating over one day, just make it a weekend. Or divide and conquer like my parents do. There’s ways to make everyone feel appreciated without overdoing it. Get creative.
Just using the phrase "In the trenches" is setting my teeth on edge. Implying raising your own children is analogous at all to going to war is eff'd in the first place.
It's extra-fucked if you're aware that the earliest (unofficial) celebrations that eventually developed into Mother's Day as we know it today were memorial gatherings for _mothers whose sons were killed fighting in the American Civil War,_ meaning that there are trenches involved, all right, but they're not metaphoric ones; they're literal field works where young men were shot, and bayoneted, and blown apart by artillery shells.
My mother passed away two years ago this past January, and I will still honour her as long as I live. Mother's Day is a day to honour each and every mother, whether they're still raising young children or if their children are adults. Please keep honouring mothers, no matter how old they are and how old you are as their child. Mothers are mothers are mothers are mothers, and this doesn't end when the children are no longer small.
I. Refuse. My grandmother raised me and I will call her every mothers day and celebrate her every day until I die and I'm 34. Mother's day is for all mothers.
My mom passed when I was 12, my daughter's mom almost got my child killed and then blamed said child, so this past Mother's Day, the only Mother's Day gift I bought was for my daughter's grandma (my daughter's mom's mom) because she has been absolutely wonderful to us when a lot of women in her shoes wouldn't have. Mother's Day is for all the moms everywhere that have sacrificed, and sometimes continue to sacrifice, for their families. Happy Mother's Day, Judy, you've 100% earned it.
Mother’s Day, to me, has been a reminder to be grateful and happy for everything your maternal figures have done for you. My gram never stopped caring for me, I’m still a baby to her whether I like it or not. It means she’ll make the same sacrifices for me now as she would have a decade ago. I also say this as a new mom. I would not be comfortable hogging a holiday that is meant for all maternal figures for myself, that’s just too much. Taking care of this little child makes me happy enough as it is. The recognition is nice, but I’m not desperate enough to get that narcissistic about it. These people honestly strike me as the type to throw a fit when they find out somebody else is celebrating their birthday on the same day 🤦🏻♀️
I'm 45 my Mom has not stopped being my Mom she will never stop being my mom my Dad celebrated my Grandmother on mother's day and my mom never said anything she appreciated it.
I'm in my 30's and I call to wish my mom Happy Mother's Day every year, and will continue to do so. They don't stop being your mother at a certain age. Note: I do the same for my father on Father's Day for the same reason.
I always just celebrated it with my mother, as thanks for raising me. I'm 43. She's still a mother, active in my life, and helping me during my low points. Even as I live on my own, pay my bills, ect. When I have a bad week, or something unexpected happens, I can call her and talk to her. She's the one person who will always take time out of her day to listen to my BS. That's what Mother's Day is about to me. It can be different to other people, and maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it's how I've always done it.
I am fortunate that mine do- granted, my eldest will be 22 tomorrow. The other is 17 years of age. My wife also knows that I have mixed feelings about Father's Day as well.
I never stopped being my mother’s child. None of my siblings did either. So we will continue to celebrate her, and all the other mothers, in our lives. Like you can celebrate all of them, and possibly even make it a week long thing if you can’t celebrate them all in one day.
Here's a solution. Why don't people celebrate what they want to celebrate and other people mind their own business and stop telling what other people need to do.
I'm 41 years old, my mothers stress level went up when I turned 18 because she had to worry about all her hard work going out the window while I was in the Army. She still to this day worries that someone might try to take her "little boy" from her on some random traffic stop. Mom didn't stop being Mom when I moved out, she will never stop worrying. She needs celebrated.
In the shadowpaw pack we do mums week. . We do small things all week and tend to go out big time on Saturday. It's also not only for the "genetically a woman and gave birth to a child" but all the motherly caring people in your life. We all have that aunt that deserves a bouquet and a good outing as well. Or the lesbian gaymom that fed us when our parents didn't.
They want to make things increasingly exclusive in oreder to feel soecial and the more exclusive something is the more special and unique they feel... Up until the exclusivity becomes so out of control that it becomes meaningless.
What utter crap. Mothers day is for all mums, living or passed on. I celebrate my mum. Shes been gone for over a decade now. I celebrate her life because she raised me and loved me. Mothers day is personal to the individual. Not some political tool to score brownie points off.
My mother raised myself and my three siblings, helped raise my several nieces and nephews, her own siblings, and takes care of her own parents in their retirement. She has certainly earned more than a day's acknowledgement. She also wouldn't care what these people think even if she was on TikTok or X-Twitter, which she understands as being complete wastes of time and energy.
lol i called my grandmother (mom of my mom the sadly died when i was young) and i still gave her mothersday greetings and at her birthday i plan to give her flowers
When you're a mother of small children, Mother's day is a celebration of your effort to raise them into good adults. When you are a mother of adults, Mother's day is a celebration all you've accomplished.
Thank you Antisocial Media. We’ll take it from here. I’m over 21 and I’ll celebrate my mother on Mother’s Day every year, in addition to any and every day she helps me and my brothers.
Odd, it's always been my experience that mother's day is for the corporations to sell stuff to idiots while the person that originally created the holiday tries to get it canceled.
The hypocrisy between "it's for the mom's in the trenches" vs. "my son's future wife better accept I'm the most important" is giving "no means no" vs "we still wanna be chased and we're gonna play mind-games and weaponize intimacy" vibes... Will women ever realize some takes are mutually exclusive? Can you bring this up at the next meeting please? 😅
This argument feel so stupid to me. My mom died 4 years ago, and she never stopped being awsome, so I never stopped celebrating her (even now). I just wish I'd done more, because now I can't. Appreciate your mom's everyday, tell her you love her, call her just to talk. We never know how much time we will get. I still love and miss you mom!
I lost my mother this past year, and this was my first mothers day without her. No one on this planet can tell me to not celebrate her. I will continue to celebrate without her even here. Anyone who wants to tell me or anyone else I know is not a person worth even being listened to
Next time you ask your mother or mother-in-law to baby sit, don't be surprised when she says "Sorry, I'm done raising kids. It's your turn in the trenches".
I was told that I didn't deserve mother's day when I had miscarried at 20 weeks, and my second child was in foster care to save her from being used as a weapon by my mentally ill mother. This was at a pow wow for mothers and every single other mother there, including foster mothers, grandmothers, aunts, all got a flower and a parchment in thanks. I will forever thank the woman who was dancing beside me in the circle who left and gave the organizers hell for not honouring ALL mothers.
This thought that it's only for the Mom's that are "In the Tenches" is akyn to the thought that you are only a parent so long your child is under 18 and after that, you're done and your never a parent again. It also encourages us to, as a people to continue down the horrible downward trend of forgetting the old and elderly which is an unspoken epidemic in at least America, I don't know about other countries. We've had a rising epidemic of selfishness throughout the world for generations and the fact that there are some people who are so twisted in their minds that they would accuse their parents of being selfish for wanting to be acknowledged as current and still living parents is mind blowing to me. Everyday I watch as the lack of value for standards continues to cause the People to decay further and further and it is called "Progress." One day, your nightmares will be called "progress."
I’m a husband and I support traditional Mother’s Day! We didn’t get to have kids, so Mothers Day is for my wife, who is worthy of extra special treatment! As was my Mum who was truly awesome!
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If you think that being a mother stops when your kids turn 18 and you’re then out of the trenches, you shouldn’t be having kids.
Yeah, just the fact that so many people refer to the task of bringing kids up as "in the trenches" is, uh, worrying.
THIS PART 🔊
My mother will always be my mother. Although she's passed, I'll always honor her ON MOTHER'S DAY.
#notallmoms is selfish, entitled and embarrassing. Shameful.
@@thedadvocate I'd like to hear if these people are of the same opinion when all of a sudden it is they who are being pushed out of Mother's Day based on totally arbitrary age restrictions on who counts as someone's child.
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The Dadvocate is probably one of the most intelligent, most logical, and yet compassionate people I have ever seen.
The Dadvocate is what happens when feminism is really, truly, about equality and not swapping places on privilege. Now, I absolutely do not mind women, mothers or not, having the opportunity to enjoy some privilege. Fair is fair. As long as everybody recognizes that it is privilege.
@rmdodsonbills ...this comment has bad vibes. Like. You don't Mind women having some privileges? I'm not trynna start a fight here just. Genuinely read your own comment and tell me it's not....weirdly misogynist.
@@chickenanon Maybe I should have capitalized "Privilege" to make it clear that I'm talking about that Privilege that men have enjoyed for millennia. But Privilege is Privilege and I'm generally not in favor. If an auto shop advertised their services by implying that women generally were incompetent under the hood would that be misogynist? Then tell me what to call it when a grocery store chain advertises by implying that all men are incompetent in the kitchen. Some day we'll get to real equality and neither one will be acceptable. In the meantime, I don't complain about the second one because having sexism on the other foot for a while on the road to equality might be helpful. So enjoy your Privilege as I enjoy mine.
You should check out Alison Armstrong. I expect that she had an influence on ‘Dadvocate’ at some point. Her books and podcast appearances are almost exclusively aimed at women, but it’s so refreshing to listen/read as a man because she really understands us.
This is as bad as these "women" also wanted to ban Father's Day.
Or use Father's Day to celebrate single mothers because "they have to be the father too"
Its worse
In all likelihood its probably the same women.
Well. Why don’t we get rid of both. Give it the president’s day treatment.
@@SuperRoboPopoto Make them bank holidays? I mean, they're on Sundays already...
Will continue to put flowers on the grave on Mother's Day.
Of course, I'm not driven by jealousy and dislike of my female relatives.
$10 says that the mothers saying this would be absolutely broken-hearted if their adult kids, or hell, even their teenage kids, didn't wish them a happy Mother's Day because they aren't "in the trenches" anymore. It's fine for them to invalidate mothers whose children have grown until it's them who's being invalidated for the exact same reason /s
They will always consider themselves "in the trenches"
what are they telling their own mothers?
@@michaelautrey6641 they are not speaking with them, they have been disowned
@kylebaryonyx9478 what will actually happen is when these women grow-up they will say mothers day is only for the women who already went through it and the in the trenches moms won't get it until they graduate their kids from the home.
@@TheKoolsmoker emphasis on "grow up". these are children that have had kids and think they now have authority. imagine being so self centered you think you can dictate who can celebrate mother's day.
I lost my mother just two weeks ago. I would love to be able to celebrate her on Mother's Day.
My condolences. I lost mine last September. I, and my siblings, still raised a toast to her this year and like to think she could see it wherever she may be now.
My "baby" is 43 & I have to tell you, you never stop being a mom, ever!
This.
That's a hard year.
I'm 50 and still celebrate my mom because she's still important
@@miconis123 I’m sure she is
Happy Mother's Day, ma'am.
I called/texed my mom, both sisters, baby momma, cousin, 3 aunts, and one step mother. All mothers need to be celebrated.
"What's funny is you know that dad's would never argue over stuff like this. Ain't none of y'all's husbands or fathers having any sort of argument about this. Those boys are happy if they just get a *sock* ."
This is an extremely true and very telling statement.
she didn't even say a pair of socks.. just a sock.
@@notusingmyname4791 It'll fill the gap of that lost sock you don't know about yet so that you still have a pair. Whether they match or not is completely different matter. lol
"Children have presented father with clothes! Father is a free elf!"
Dobie got a sock?!
THE SOCK OF POWAAAAAAH
I am 48 I will ALWAYS give flowers, cards and if she has the opportunity either Brunch or Dinner! She sacrificed herself to raise me and LOVES her grandchildren!
”It is not for the grandmothers” Yes it fucking is!
They are still mothers!
Hell yes...
The people saying that are basically saying that they don't respect their own mom. For them, having kids means that you get to move over to the receiving side of Mothers Day and do not need to give anything to their mom.
Damn I wonder what the second word in Grandmother stands for.. The world may never know.
Technically in my country we have Grandmother's Day for grandmas but grandmas still celebrate Mother's Day with their kids (so curent generation parents)
grandmothers are more mother than most
"Nuh UH, this is MY day honey, and MINE ALONE! DON'T YOU DARE DIVERT ATTENTION AWAY FROM ME!!!"
What a bunch of unhinged narcissists.
I love how women talk about men being “so oppressive”, when yall damn well know you oppress each other horribly sometimes
All the time*
At this point I'm quietly confident men don't actually oppress women much at all anymore, most complaints I see these days are things men couldn't care less about that are enforced, promoted and expected by other women
Don’t try to understand women. Women understand women, and they hates each other
@@cptsteele91Well, people like the Tate brothers are still rich and platformed, so that's debatable...
Women are toxic. Especially to each other.
Glad my mom scoffs at "Mother's day". Her reason: "If you only love me on some made up holiday, i raised a lousy son." So i make her dinner once a month when i visit, any day should be Mother's day.
I'm a 28 year old man and I still celebrate my 53 year old Mom. It never stops just because I become a grown-ass man. I thanked her for keeping me safe as a little kid, and keeping me in mind when I can take care of myself.
My dad is 56 he still takes his mom out for brunch.
It definitely doesn't stop. In fact, I believe that age and life experience only deepens this appreciation beyond what a child or teen could comprehend.
25 here and Mom is 66. Same!
40 here. Mama is 72 next month. She didn't stop being my mom suddenly one day. Yeah, I'm more likely to have to carry and help her now for medical reasons, but she's still my mom.
My adult stepchildren honor me on mother's day along with their other moms. I also had the best time with my Mom. There was more than enough love to go around.❤
Gatekeeping MILs and grandmothers out of mother's Day is nearly as ridiculous as celebrating single moms on Father's Day.
Disagree kinda
I agree mom can celebrate mil grams and can celebrate mother's day
But if you were raised by a single mom and no uncle or grandfather is stepping up giving a father's day gift to your single mom is ok.
I've given gifts to grandpa when he was alive and an uncle one year but mom got the default.
Same imo for single fathers filling both rolls if a kid made something in school and no ladies stepped up then give it to him.
It's ok for a kid to tell their parents thanks for doing both. An acknowledgement " your doing your best"
As long as their not tearing someelse down
@@ALunarLight I think it's more about single moms thinking that they also *deserve* Father's Day. It's all well and good if a child of a single mother wants to celebrate their mom on that day for taking on both roles, but they can't expect anyone else to entertain that idea.
@grennhald these are almost certainly the same people to do both.
@@ALunarLight Every year there's videos of people arguing that single moms must be included on Father's Day. That's lame. Kids can give their mom something they made school of course, nobody cares about that.
@@grennhald Funnily enough they say nothing about single dads being included on Mother's Day I guess?
The comment section has the right idea, everyone makes the "correct" day of the year special and we leave it up to the kids to decide if any other days get celebrated.
Grandmother is still a mother! You’d be freaking lucky to still have your grandmother with you! Cherish her and love her just as much as you cherish your own mother.
Yeah, no. Mother’s Day is for mothers.
However, Father’s Day is not for mothers of any type
unless you only have one then you celebrate them on both days
@notusingmyname4791 No. If you're a single mother, you should encourage your child to find a respectable, male, father figure and celebrate them. Maybe it's an uncle, maybe it's a grandfather, I don't know. Children need a strong male character in their life. The research is very clear about this. Especially boys. Young boys NEED a strong, intelligent, kind, and trustworthy male role model. I hate to point this out, but woman do not understand what it's like to be a man in today's world. Woman can't raise men. In the off chance that it does work, usually the child ends up stumbling into how to be a man, and doesn't really receive any guidance from their mother.
Was anyone claiming it was?
Unfortunately yes
Mother's Day: "Pamper mom! Celebrate her! Give her a day off!"
Father's Day: "What do you mean you're tired? You've got a whole day of spending time with your kids ahead of you!"
Mother's Day is for your mother, because we all have one.
This!
My sister is dying of cancer and is on hospice. Her three grown children made sure she was remembered this past Mother’s Day. I’m pretty sure she’s earned it.
My mother is newly widowed and dealing with everything that comes with it. She was remembered this mother's day as well, despite her youngest being 39. I called my sister as well for good measure; she's a mother even if she isn't my mother.
Update: My sister passed away on the 21st. The Going Away Party will be in late June.
@@daveshepherd3904 Condolences to you and your family.
Thank you
The women who are saying "This holiday is only for those in the trenches" in 15 years will be saying "This holiday is only for those who've survived the trenches". This isn't an attempt to legitimately gatekeep a holiday to keep it from losing significance. This is an attempt to make it all about her, and she will continue to fight for "all about her" for the rest of her life.
Once a parent always a parent.
I was taught that mother's day is a day for anyone who is/was a mother, and it just makes sense. Learning about all this polarization over mother's day just makes me believe that contemporary culture is all about making simple things complex enough that everyone feels utterly miserable...
The older you get, the more you appreciate what your mother did for you. So that's part of mothers day
Good point! The times you could celebrate Mother's Day as a kid are also times when you didn't fully appreciate what you were celebrating. That's actually a great reason to hold that Mother's Day applies to your own mom later in life as well.
this.
I'm never going to stop wishing my mom a happy mother's day
I'm 52 and my Mom is 74. She struggles with COPD and has to be on oxygen and have a nurse come visit her every week. She's still my Mom and she still has wisdom to pass on to me. She wasn't feeling well Sunday so we'll be having Mother's day next week. Dad is cooking a special meal and Sis is coming over. I got her a nice card.
Thanks for being the adult in the room once again, Lauren.
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I love what you do and what you say. It's so refreshing to see and hear a woman talk sense and work hard at seeing all sides of an issue instead of letting her emotions dictate the direction. And I don't mean that as a negative reflection on all women, we need your emotions and your unique feminine views. Without them, we would be in rough shape, but like all things, moderation. I'm lucky enough to have a partner who can view all sides of a debate and who will sometimes call me out on not being emotional enough, or at least not recognizing when emotion needs to spill out before rational thought can take over. I have tons more to say on this, but really, you're doing a fantastic job!
My gramma’s battling cancer right now. She raised me since I was a baby. But yeah no, I shouldn’t wish her a happy mother’s day and get her her favorite roses and ice cream! Thanks internet! 👍
I hope you're all doing okay. I've luckily not had someone close to me fighting cancer but I imagine is a very depressing time for everyone involved. Make sure you keep yourself well and I hope your gran pulls through. Make sure that she gets those roses and ice cream!
fuck that you better give you gramma twice the mother's day love cuz she was mom'ing twice as much!
Wishing your grandmother a happy mother's day... My grandmother went through cancer too.... Good luck and I hope she beats it!
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I miss my mother. I hope everyone who still has one appreciates her.
I wish I could have one more mothers day, with my mum. You only have one, so cherish her as much as can, while you can.
I think this sentiment also got missed by a lot of these women.
Me too
Thank god you only get one......soon to be common take......no mothers just automatically deserve anything......good job, you spread your legs and spent the rest of your life advocating against fathers day......the folks who really do things for the family.
True words
Same here. I wish it even more for my siblings. 2 of them were still in school when our mom passed. I'm not saying it wasn't rough for me but I was grown.
I celebrate my wife as a mother as well as my Mum, Mother-In Law, Grandmother. Thankful to every one of these woman.
Forget these people. Me and my brothers are 28, 32 and 34 and we'll celebrate our mother any way we please
Patriarchy!!! ;)
Being a mother is a lifetime endeavor. She doesn't stop worrying about you when you graduate high school. She's constantly thinking of you. Are you ok? Work treating you well? Have you eaten? Are you drinking water? I don't care if I lived to be 100. If my mom were still here, I'd celebrate her every damn day, and I'd go extra hard on Mother's Day.
"In the trenches" is military slang for front-line units. Its meaning is "we deal directly with the opponent while everyone stands back and helps". These moms are basically saying "I'm better because I do all the work and take all the crap.
The problem comes when they don’t realize their own mothers haven’t been through the trenches themselves. I was the POGest of POGs in the military so to see privates tell their superiors that they don’t know shit when they’ve been through the same shit would be comical to me.
So in these* mother’s eyes, any woman who had kids in the past can’t celebrate Mother’s Day?
Yea, ok lady
and they WRONGASHELL for thinking that way too!
They aren't the only one in the trenches tho I'm sure the father is doing things too
"In the trenches" is military slang for front-line units. Its meaning is "we deal directly with the opponent while everyone stands back and helps". These women see their children as enemy combatants?
My experience with Mother’s Day is this; Mother’s Day is the day you are supposed to honor YOUR mother!!!
You never stop owing your mother a great mother's day.
I don't owe her anything. I did not consent to being born by her.
Glad she's gone :).
My mom had 9 kids. Her youngest will turn 27 this year. She is just as much a mother to us now than ever.
This would be like the armed forces insisting that Veteran's Day is only for actively deployed people and not for people for those that served in the past.
No, because to be a legal veteran you had to have been discharged in the first place. Active duty and reserve personnel are not veterans.
This was my immediate thought when I heard it. Completely absurd.
@@jemiller226 Correct, but it is a good analogy.
@@Karajorma It's not actually analogous at all, though. Mother's Day is for mothers with kids at home *and* mothers whose kids have grown. Veterans Day is only for *veterans*, not people currently in the military.
A better example would be to say that Presidents Day is only for the current President and not those who aren't in office anymore.
President’s Day is actually only for one president. We made it into something else out of historical ignorance. President’s Day is the observance of George Washington’s birthday.
The work a women puts in as a Mother DOES NOT cease to hold importance regardless whether her children are kids, teens or adults. Lets continue to celebrate all Mothers regardless of their age, because THEY ARE STILL MOTHERS
My mom is 64 years old! She will forever be my mother! She gets a mother's day.
As a life long mamas boy who lost my mom to liver cancer when I was only 31, (I'm 41 now.) I can't put into words how much it hurts to hear people say this. I would give anything for one more mother's day with her.
My mother loved me her whole life and deserves to be honored
I love my mom even though I'm 27 years old and an only child. She deserves all the appreciation I can give!!!
oh,man! Just wait until they find out that there's also a Fathers Day. They're going to absolutely freak out.
They did. They tried to give it to the mothers.
My mother Is both my roommate and one of my closest confidants. She raised me, and has supported me through some of the toughest times of my life. And to say that she doesn't deserve a day for "her" because she's not a new mother is an insult to her and the billions of other mothers out there.
As a mother of 3 adult children we never stop being on call 24/7 for our children.
Brilliant analysis. Thank you.
We gave flowers with my sister to our mother, our aunt because there's noone else that would, and our lovely old neighbour who's like family to us because she has daughter abroad for 15 years.
This pisses me off so much! My mom deserves to be celebrated! She's a wonderful Grammy to her grandchildren and she raised 5 of us! I live quite the distance from her right now. Moving back home to help take care of her next month, she was just diagnosed with cancer (stage 4). I pray she's around for next mother's day and for at least 40 more after that.
Always celebrate your mother -no matter how old you are- on Mother's Day!!! Appreciate her while you have her. I'm terrified that my time is running out with my mom. And I don' t know how I'll live without her. She's always been there.
I'm 52 and my wife is 53. We luckily still have our moms around, and we will celebrate them whenever we can.
My wife and her sister are both mothers and their mother expects them to go WAY out of their way and basically kowtow to her at the expense of their own holiday. The 1st year my wife and sister-in-law had kids on Mother's Day my mother in law expected lavish gifts and for both our families to spend the whole day over there, and she didn't even get her daughters gifts. So I definitely understand where these "in the trenches" folks are coming from. I think mothers of adult children still deserve their flowers of course, but mom's of younger children should be celebrated as a priority over their own mother's and grandmothers.
Appreciating what my parents did for me didn't stop once I left home.
And when Fathers Day rolls around women want to claim it as their own and say "moms are dads too!"
Such narcissism!
I think my mom has dealt with more crying with me as an adult with depression. She’s in the trenches until I can move out
My college graduation was on Mother's Day this year and my mother and aunts still tried to make the day about them.
As a grandparent, the most important mother in my life is my own 84 year old mother. But I also celebrate my wife, my daughter, and two of my sisters who are also mothers.
My mom never ended raising me. She cared, fed and loved me her entire life. There's no cut off for being a mother.
A mother is a mother period
For Mother’s Day this year we had time just the two of us on Friday night, on Saturday hung out with his Mom, and Sunday I hung out with my mom and grandma. I sent flowers to my dad’s grandma. My parents go see their parents every Mother’s Day. I think that’s sweet. I don’t have kids so it’s easier for me to do it this way. But maybe if people have trouble celebrating over one day, just make it a weekend. Or divide and conquer like my parents do. There’s ways to make everyone feel appreciated without overdoing it. Get creative.
Just using the phrase "In the trenches" is setting my teeth on edge. Implying raising your own children is analogous at all to going to war is eff'd in the first place.
It's extra-fucked if you're aware that the earliest (unofficial) celebrations that eventually developed into Mother's Day as we know it today were memorial gatherings for _mothers whose sons were killed fighting in the American Civil War,_ meaning that there are trenches involved, all right, but they're not metaphoric ones; they're literal field works where young men were shot, and bayoneted, and blown apart by artillery shells.
My mother passed away two years ago this past January, and I will still honour her as long as I live. Mother's Day is a day to honour each and every mother, whether they're still raising young children or if their children are adults.
Please keep honouring mothers, no matter how old they are and how old you are as their child.
Mothers are mothers are mothers are mothers, and this doesn't end when the children are no longer small.
I. Refuse. My grandmother raised me and I will call her every mothers day and celebrate her every day until I die and I'm 34. Mother's day is for all mothers.
My mom passed when I was 12, my daughter's mom almost got my child killed and then blamed said child, so this past Mother's Day, the only Mother's Day gift I bought was for my daughter's grandma (my daughter's mom's mom) because she has been absolutely wonderful to us when a lot of women in her shoes wouldn't have. Mother's Day is for all the moms everywhere that have sacrificed, and sometimes continue to sacrifice, for their families. Happy Mother's Day, Judy, you've 100% earned it.
And here all these years I figured the "mom's" earned it for a lifetime cause you never stop being a mom ....or Dad if you're truly a parent...j.s. 🤠🤗
Finally! She's standing up for women! Rejoice!
Mother is mother is mother is…and on and on and on. I ALWAYS wish all mothers a “Happy Mother’s Day”, regardless of status or station.
Mother’s Day, to me, has been a reminder to be grateful and happy for everything your maternal figures have done for you. My gram never stopped caring for me, I’m still a baby to her whether I like it or not. It means she’ll make the same sacrifices for me now as she would have a decade ago. I also say this as a new mom. I would not be comfortable hogging a holiday that is meant for all maternal figures for myself, that’s just too much. Taking care of this little child makes me happy enough as it is. The recognition is nice, but I’m not desperate enough to get that narcissistic about it. These people honestly strike me as the type to throw a fit when they find out somebody else is celebrating their birthday on the same day 🤦🏻♀️
I'm 45 my Mom has not stopped being my Mom she will never stop being my mom my Dad celebrated my Grandmother on mother's day and my mom never said anything she appreciated it.
I'm in my 30's and I call to wish my mom Happy Mother's Day every year, and will continue to do so. They don't stop being your mother at a certain age.
Note: I do the same for my father on Father's Day for the same reason.
I always just celebrated it with my mother, as thanks for raising me. I'm 43. She's still a mother, active in my life, and helping me during my low points. Even as I live on my own, pay my bills, ect. When I have a bad week, or something unexpected happens, I can call her and talk to her. She's the one person who will always take time out of her day to listen to my BS. That's what Mother's Day is about to me. It can be different to other people, and maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it's how I've always done it.
Can’t wait to maybe be told happy Father’s Day by my young children and my wife…
stay strong, half of it will come true for sure. The other half, I can't say.
I am fortunate that mine do- granted, my eldest will be 22 tomorrow. The other is 17 years of age. My wife also knows that I have mixed feelings about Father's Day as well.
What could be worse than honoring and appreciating your mother AFTER you reach adulthood...
I never stopped being my mother’s child. None of my siblings did either. So we will continue to celebrate her, and all the other mothers, in our lives. Like you can celebrate all of them, and possibly even make it a week long thing if you can’t celebrate them all in one day.
Happy mothers day dad
I'm in my 30's. My Mom will always be the mother to a little kid. Love you, Mom!
Here's a solution. Why don't people celebrate what they want to celebrate and other people mind their own business and stop telling what other people need to do.
I'm 41 years old, my mothers stress level went up when I turned 18 because she had to worry about all her hard work going out the window while I was in the Army. She still to this day worries that someone might try to take her "little boy" from her on some random traffic stop. Mom didn't stop being Mom when I moved out, she will never stop worrying. She needs celebrated.
In the shadowpaw pack we do mums week. . We do small things all week and tend to go out big time on Saturday. It's also not only for the "genetically a woman and gave birth to a child" but all the motherly caring people in your life. We all have that aunt that deserves a bouquet and a good outing as well. Or the lesbian gaymom that fed us when our parents didn't.
“In the trenches” 😂 Clowns
Women like this are single moms and are that way for a reason.
They arent just selfish they are narcissitic.
Like how the fuck they think you become mother of 40 yo guy? It's not like people spawn at given age, they had to raise these kids for them to grow up
They want to make things increasingly exclusive in oreder to feel soecial and the more exclusive something is the more special and unique they feel...
Up until the exclusivity becomes so out of control that it becomes meaningless.
What utter crap. Mothers day is for all mums, living or passed on. I celebrate my mum. Shes been gone for over a decade now. I celebrate her life because she raised me and loved me. Mothers day is personal to the individual. Not some political tool to score brownie points off.
My mother raised myself and my three siblings, helped raise my several nieces and nephews, her own siblings, and takes care of her own parents in their retirement. She has certainly earned more than a day's acknowledgement. She also wouldn't care what these people think even if she was on TikTok or X-Twitter, which she understands as being complete wastes of time and energy.
lol i called my grandmother (mom of my mom the sadly died when i was young) and i still gave her mothersday greetings and at her birthday i plan to give her flowers
My mom is 92... I still get her stuff for mother's day and will continue to do so for as long as she is alive. You don't like it.. to damn bad.😅
When you're a mother of small children, Mother's day is a celebration of your effort to raise them into good adults. When you are a mother of adults, Mother's day is a celebration all you've accomplished.
Happy mothers day to ALL mothers.
Thank you Antisocial Media. We’ll take it from here. I’m over 21 and I’ll celebrate my mother on Mother’s Day every year, in addition to any and every day she helps me and my brothers.
Odd, it's always been my experience that mother's day is for the corporations to sell stuff to idiots while the person that originally created the holiday tries to get it canceled.
The hypocrisy between "it's for the mom's in the trenches" vs. "my son's future wife better accept I'm the most important" is giving "no means no" vs "we still wanna be chased and we're gonna play mind-games and weaponize intimacy" vibes... Will women ever realize some takes are mutually exclusive? Can you bring this up at the next meeting please? 😅
This argument feel so stupid to me. My mom died 4 years ago, and she never stopped being awsome, so I never stopped celebrating her (even now). I just wish I'd done more, because now I can't. Appreciate your mom's everyday, tell her you love her, call her just to talk. We never know how much time we will get.
I still love and miss you mom!
If anyone thinks they can stop me from honoring my grandmother on mother's day, they're going to have a big problem on their hands.
Yeah, if I stop wishing my grandma a Happy Mother's Day, you can bet I'll be late for my next birthday. 😅
Totally selfish.
I lost my mother this past year, and this was my first mothers day without her. No one on this planet can tell me to not celebrate her. I will continue to celebrate without her even here. Anyone who wants to tell me or anyone else I know is not a person worth even being listened to
Next time you ask your mother or mother-in-law to baby sit, don't be surprised when she says "Sorry, I'm done raising kids. It's your turn in the trenches".
I was told that I didn't deserve mother's day when I had miscarried at 20 weeks, and my second child was in foster care to save her from being used as a weapon by my mentally ill mother. This was at a pow wow for mothers and every single other mother there, including foster mothers, grandmothers, aunts, all got a flower and a parchment in thanks. I will forever thank the woman who was dancing beside me in the circle who left and gave the organizers hell for not honouring ALL mothers.
This thought that it's only for the Mom's that are "In the Tenches" is akyn to the thought that you are only a parent so long your child is under 18 and after that, you're done and your never a parent again.
It also encourages us to, as a people to continue down the horrible downward trend of forgetting the old and elderly which is an unspoken epidemic in at least America, I don't know about other countries.
We've had a rising epidemic of selfishness throughout the world for generations and the fact that there are some people who are so twisted in their minds that they would accuse their parents of being selfish for wanting to be acknowledged as current and still living parents is mind blowing to me.
Everyday I watch as the lack of value for standards continues to cause the People to decay further and further and it is called "Progress." One day, your nightmares will be called "progress."
I’m a husband and I support traditional Mother’s Day! We didn’t get to have kids, so Mothers Day is for my wife, who is worthy of extra special treatment! As was my Mum who was truly awesome!
All moms are essential. With you being a step mom too, happy Mother’s and Stepmother’s day to you! Hubby better get you two separate meals and gifts.
I married an older guy and this year I have step kids that are older than me 👸🏻🖤 Expecting at least a card, thank you