Help me tune this squarebody 🙏🏻
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Well, you guys watched as I dragged this old C10 home and cleaned her up and got her running! She gave me a little scare thinking that she might’ve been locked up but we got her freed up and brought back to life! Now I just need your help figuring out how to make her run to her fullest potential! Please listen and give me your thoughts!
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Sounds like you have a couple of the plug wires crossed. Make sure the firing order is correct.
Yep, I agree re check the firing order.
The plug change helped alot. Still seems off though. I would do this if it were my truck, 1) check firing order, 2) check/replace rotor and cap, 3) check timing and, 4) check for vacuum leaks. I think you may have issues in a few of those departments. Good luck!
Awesome thanks man. Ok this is a good plan of action thank you so much
The plugs are fine for your setup much more important for a nitrous or boosted app.
I would start with these items as they are free fast and easy to do
Idles way to fast check for vacuum leaks spray carb cleaner all around the intake manifold one spot at a time see if it changes if not lower the idle
Check timing I would look for around 36 degrees total as a staring point
Next just for covering my bases let it run with the lights in the shop turned off and look for little lightning bolts around the plug wires to make sure they are good
Might cost a new gasket but
Fix the exhaust leak it will help when listing to it so we can help diagnosis it
Finally I would put a vacuum gage on it and adjust the mixture screws
I agree with everything you just said as well as the firing order might be off as well. The best way to find a vacuum leak is to spray carb cleaner around the carb and vacuum lines. Hopefully he has a timing light to help him get it timed correctly. You can get it close by ear once he gets everything else straightened out.
I couldn’t tell in the video, but if it has a big cam like the seller said it will idle choppy. But definitely check the timing and carb adjustment. Also make sure she is getting clean fuel to the carb. Can’t wait for next video
That’s what I was thinking. Hopefully just needs a little more tuning.. stay tuned 😄
It’s running better now! I’m ready to see more videos in the future on this unit!
Thanks man!!!! I’m having fun learning with it. Thanks for the help!
Off and running! Congratulations on all the new subscribers!
Thank you bro!!!!
Love the videos, I am in the same boat as you. I love working on these things but I just don't have the know how! keep plugging away, you will get there!
Thank you!! I like the name. I want a Camaro someday. I appreciate the support! Please comment again on future content!
Thanks for the shout out
Keep it up!
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
plugs,wire order,timing
spark plug heat wont matter much until you do a power adder.. it needs some timing adjustments for sure, and carb could use adjustment those will help with the crispness of the throttle.. also it sounds like the seller wasnt truthful on the big cam cause that thing has no lope at all.. i would ditch all that accel stuff asap.. stock is better than that garbage.. another thing, you might check for a vacuum advance on that distributor and make sure its hooked up to the carb... vacuum leaks can really be a pain
Much better.
Header gasket leak.
Keep digging.
New subscriber from South Georgia.
I own a few C10 trucks myself
Thanks for the sub! I’ll keep you posted on progress! What’s your favorite year model?
I think you're doing a good job with that old Chevy truck .I just subscribed . it's nice to be along for the ride as you start to build your channel 👍🏻👍🏻
Hey thank you for the support! Learning as I go and making plenty of mistakes along the way but having a blast and thankful you guys are enjoying it!
The stumble on throttle is your exellerator pump in the carburetor when the truck sat not running the rubber diagram gets dry and hard and can't seal to pump gas on acceleration need to do a full rebuild have the carburetor cleaned in a super sonic atomizer works flawlessly
Wait is a super sonic atomizer a real thing? 🦹 …….😂 ok where do I find it??
If you have a harbor freight tools nearby it's called central machinery parts cleaning atomizer price is about 150.00 that is were I got mine had for a couple years now it works great for the cleaner I've been using pine sol and water works real good
@@michaelgoudy-joseph913 oh I’m definitely getting this! Thank you!!
Well, Matt, I’m glad whiskey dance told me about you since you’re a fellow Okie just subscribed Your short of 1000. I’ll let some folks know.
Thanks Wayne!!! I appreciate you helping me out!!!
Wires crossed bud
Hey buddy it's definitely sounding a lot better. Make sure you have a good clean fuel filter. May I have to pull the Jets out and get them cleaned up. The popping sound is definitely header collector gaskets could be a loose bolt very common thing with those.
Thank you! I’m really thinking it’s those bolts but I’ll prob clean that carb up too. Thanks for the advice!
When you buy someone else's headache you have to trouble shoot.
There's no telling what kinda mismatched parts are in the motor.
Especially a 377 build.
Strip the topend
Check your springs and lash.
Then buy new wires and plugs.
Distributor is next.
Also look at going over the carb
It looks like a performer.
More likely a 650.
It's a good project for learning
And little expense.
Good luck
Thanks Jerry! You’re right there’s no telling what all it has in it. I definitely need to learn to adjust valves and lash. I think she is definitely going to need that. I got new plug wires and plugs just need to install wires and keepers. Learning every thing I do as I do it so I really appreciate all the valuable feedback and advice like this from people who actually have experience. Thanks!!
It’s running way better!
Sounding a lot better! Still needs a little help but I’m hopeful!!
Hello Matt!
Check the firing order and get someone to come over with a timing light make sure there's no intake or vacuum leaks by spraying carb cleaner or starting fluid around the intake and bottom of the carb if it revs up there is a leak. a leak will cause the rpm to stay higher and it won't idle right might check the idle screw they may have had it turned up to break in the fresh build maybe and also make sure it's not running on the accelerator pump at idle you need a carb friendly buddy to come help tinker and work out the bugs. The channel will do great need a little longer videos and stay persistent shoot for 2 15 to 20 min videos a week it will be slow for a few months but stay at it and you will take off on here great job man love the truck there's a good following with the square bodies hang in there.
I think you’re exactly right. Thanks for that tip I am definitely going to try that starting fluid trick. Alright I’ll try to get some more content out!
Probably already got mentioned. However I suggest firing order (yep, from me too 😂), check out the spark plug wires, the condition and they looked loose, make sure they don’t ground out on your headers and melt isolation +maybe organise them. Get yourself a timing light. Maybe also take a look inside the distributor cap for moisture and corrosion.
Excited to see the progress here! 🤓
Awesome you’re spot on. Firing order is correct but I’ve got a new set of plug wires and looms on the way to organize better.
I’ll check out dist cap as well. Thank you for commenting!
I would honestly put a new starter in it you could check the ground wire on the starter also!! Tighten the header back up but first make sure your gasket is lined up that’ll get rid of the popping and make sure your wires are in the right spot that’s the biggest thing the firing order is 1,8,4,3,6,5,7,2 search a 70s 350 cap and see which point is for each number and hook your wires up accordingly that should help a lot and put new gas in the tank and a new fuel filter in it that’ll do a lot
Also the odds going from front to back by fire wall are on driver side and same for evens on passenger side
Ah ok this helps a ton thanks a lot
Definitely start it up and check plug wires for any arking. With the header heat plug wire mabe jumping spark. You can see this easily with the lights out.
(In the dark)
Could be the popping sound
Ok awesome I am definitely going to try this thank you
try to get a timing light and check to see if it’s running on time on the harmonic balancer, oh and to loosen the distributor there should be a bolt like in the area under the distributor that connects the block so you u can loosen the distributor to adjust it,
How does the timing light work? I’ve seen people do it but not sure how? Finally found the distributor bolt. Thanks!
Good start that’s how you learn
Paying my dues haha you guys are all a huge help tho!
That sounds like an exhaust leak from the headers being loose. Love the videos that’s a pretty nice truck man. Keep up the good work. Ain’t nothing wrong with learning things. You can lower the idle a bit and then you can hear that lope of the cam a little better.
Hey thanks so much dude alright I will do both of those things. Glad you’re enjoying the channel. Thanks for the support!! Stay tuned
Definitely need to tighten the header back up. I agree with the other guy it sounds like you have plug wires crossed somewhere.
Alright yes I’m going to check distributor can and see what I can get into. Thanks!
I just replaced header gaskets on my dads chevelle and it did sound like that. I replaced the gaskets and the noises went away. I would put those header bolts back on and see if the noise stops.
Awesome thank you!
Sounds like it's a header leak mixed with a cylinder that's periodically firing. The more you run it the more it will come back around.
That’s helpful thank you!
The tic could be an arcing plug wire. Cut the overhead lights to see it better.
Oh interesting. That would make sense with the starter doing that weird thing too even without the key. Something was touching somewhere for sure. Thanks!!!!
Sounds ok set the timing to makesure its good then get someone to set up your air mixture screws on the carb
Yeah def gonna need help there. Thanks!
Put a new gasket in the header to eliminate that tick noise. The hesitation might be from crossed plug wires or maybe the carb needs adjustment. Check for vacuum leaks as well. But it does sound a lot better bro!! Keep up the good work!!
Awesome ok yes this response seems to be the general consensus! I guess it’s carb rebuild time.. 😅
Sounds like part of it is header leak at the head for sure
@@DaysofPainandVictory I’m hoping that’s it. Just ordered a compression tester and about to get a timing light. Don’t know how to use it yet but will learn on camera 🤣
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Well, it's skipping and either you have a cut wire and the spark is jumping around. Or, you have a manifold/ header leak. Or, both? Idk?? I would clean the plugs and look at the wires, all wiring and see if you have a fraid wire somewhere. That's what I would start with. If those wires are the ones that you have to make. Then, that might be the skipping issue. Also, if the motor has a lot of carbon built up. Then run some Barion B-12 in the tank and in the carburetor when it's running. Or you can do that with transmission fluid. It's going to smoke, but it will help.
Ok I’ll try this thank you!
I think it a bit less rumbly than ruby that might be bc it has no mufflers and your squarebody does. But she pops yours doesn't lol. Thanks for the shout out congratulations on almost 1k subs
You bet man. I wish yall were here to help me tune this thing up. I guess it’s time to learn haha
@@okspeedshop I'm not the best at tuning either 😂. When we used the timing light we just shined it on the hormonic balenser and just turned the distributor clock wise. We don't know how to used one lol
Timing needs advanced there's a bolt back there it's a 9/16 clockwise to advanced spin it to the right.
Ok thank you I’ll give that a try!
Please get rid of that cooling fan and get one with a clutch on it or an electrical fan. Those metal fans are so dangerous man and they are unforgiving especially without a fan shroud. They will take an arm or finger..Enjoying the channel.
Alright awesome thanks for the tip! And and I appreciate you watching
Sounds good. That pop sounds like an exhaust leak. Definitely tighten the header back. Also sounds like the idle is a little to high. Check the timing also.
Ok on it thank you
On a mild street build heat range doesn't really much matter until your making like 500 or on nitrous
Ok thanks that’s helpful
Check for vacuum leaks. And lower the idle screw and you can hear the lope in the cam
Ok I’ll do that thank you
I'm pretty sure that's it's misfiring because of timing that will also cause the hesitation. You might also want to check the mixture screw on the carburetor. I would say check your timing. Hope that helps God Bless and have a good one.
Sound like needs to be advanced or retarded? And mixture more rich? Thanks!
sounds like intake valve popping yes that could be
E3 diamonds and EFI should do nicely
I like your style 🤌🏻
Sounds like exhaust ticking at low idle . You can check the intake manifold gasket’s. Replace if burnt out and tighten all your exhaust bolts. Wouldn’t hurt to set the timing and possibly clean the carb . Just my thoughts. Hope you figure it out.
You nailed it! There’s a stripped exhaust bolt hole that I’ll need to tap, that will help it!
@@okspeedshop It’s good to see the younger generation getting into this hobby. You don’t learn if you never try . I hope you stay encouraged and continue in your desire to build projects. I’ve been turning wrenches my whole life. This truck has so many possibilities. There’s a great community of gearheads out there that are always willing to help out .
@@jimsmith733 that’s what I have experienced. What a great community to be a part of! I am definitely hooked!
You mean I can plug a hazard relay in and the vehicles will crank. But I do like the truck
I can’t explain it 😂😂😂
Misfire or exhaust leak
you need to check vacum with vacum gauge
What do I connect that to?
Roller rockers free up a little hp
Oh nice that’s good
If you get tired of messing with that motor, I know of a little red truck that might like it 😅😂😊
😂😂🤙🏼 I’ll keep that in mind
Headers will always leak use some orange lock tight on the header bolds
Ah good idea thank you
Roller rockers are better for high RPM and higher lift camshafts. You should research about heat range for spark plugs. The r44 you got is a cooler plug so it helps prevent premature detonation on higher compression engines. Your idle also sounds high which would mean you won’t hear the lope of the cam as much. Check for vacuum leaks you can spray brake clean around the base of the carburetor and where the intake gaskets are if the rpm changes you have a leak. that could cause your higher idle. One thing is you should get some new gas that will help your throttle response as well. You should get a timing light and as long as your balancer has degree marks you can set your timing. One thing I do when I set mine I advance my distributor (rotate it towards the number 1 cylinder) until the engine cranks kind of hard. I back it off a little bit till smooth easy cranking get it running and check with a timing light. 8-12 degrees initial timing is pretty good for a small block Chevy.
So what does a timing light actually do?? Thank you
@@okspeedshop you hook it to your number 1 plug wire and it flashes and when it’s flashing the light you watch your timing marks on the balancer and see what degree the tab is pointing at. Then you adjust the distributor accordingly. It’s kind of hard to explain how to use them but I’m sure there’s some videos somewhere or if you have and gearhead friends I bet they will know as well
@@ethanbailey4382 no this helps for sure thank you
shouldnt put oils etc..into cylinders then put the plugs back in, it could cause petrol lock and bend a rod...i would put a splash of marvels into the fuel and change the oil,and put some in the oil(maybe run 5w20 oil in it with the marvels)drive a few tanks of gas through the engine,hen change the oil again and put maybe 10w40 in it or 20w50 depending on pressure.the driving and heat cycling is what it probably needs to get the arthritis out of it, and rehydrate gaskets and stuff....also if you are feeling like it pop the valve covers off and soak the valve train down with wd40 letting it work down into the valve guides and dissolve varnish the may be sticking valves causing the puffing
Man I hope I didn’t tear anything up. Ok I’m screenshotting this response for the oil numbers. Thank you!
I love the vids that’s a great project I would definitely question that being a 383 stroker. I just didn’t get that lope im use to hearing from them. I’ve had several and I just didn’t hear it man
Man thats what I’m wondering. I was so excited to hear that. Sounds like a 305 at the moment.
@@okspeedshop I would borescope the pistons and look up number stamped on the block that will tell you everything you need to know it may just be be a stock 350 with a dress up kit
@@omar27834 sounds like I need to order some tools 😜
@@okspeedshop I got mine off temu 😂 dirt cheap and works as it should and I can connect it to my phone
@@omar27834 great idea!
Might want to lower the idle a little bit.
Idol it down you should hear the cam lope better
Alright I’ll give that a try!
ion know if you caught it but that lil sput noise looked like it was coming off the belt by the fan
I did notice that as well. V belts are weird
Disconnect the fuel line and quit burning off that old dead gas hook up a spare fuel line and run some mixed gas through it and let it run that way and it'll help clear the engine
That’s a good idea!
That sounded like a headder leak and id check the Accelerator pump in the carb for that dead spot on throttle this might help you just some ideas bud
Dude you nailed it! Great ear!! Got some updated vids coming on her that confirms what you said! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
@@okspeedshop Awesome glad we could help i love my SBC and love the videos man keep it up
That sounds much better, could be a spark knock and that may be timing is a little to high.
I think you’re right. Going to shoot another video tomorrow with a friend who knows what he’s doing 🤣
Header( exaust) leak...that sound your wondering about ...probably passenger side.....
Ok I’m going to reinstall those header bolts and see if that fixes. I’ll update soon thank you
Timing needs to be a touch higher
im going to get a timing light and mess with it!
Put new spark plugs and rest carburetor insione timing then sat the timing on it
Trying to learn how to do that currently. Carbs are new to me… well..everything is haha I’ve only been doing my own work since Feb.
I am in no way a expert Buti think you should idle it down a bit and yes tighten those exhaust bolts. Sounds lot better. Your getting there.
Thank you! Yes I’ll back that idle down and reinstall bolts. Learning as I go but you guys are helping a lot. 🙌🏻
@okspeedshop i am really enjoying your videos. Where you located? That truck is a good looking truck!!
@@joseguerra3989 thank you bro! Glad you’re enjoying! I am in south east Oklahoma. How bout you?
@okspeedshop I live in the big city of Corsicana Texas.😅😅😅
@@joseguerra3989 been there. Used to rodeo there
New plugs and make sure you are at least putting 93 octane in it but it definitely doesn't sound like you're firing on all 8. Definitely sounds like youve got the firing order out
Man I been buying the cheap gas. I guess I’ll have to step up to the jet fuel haha I swear I think firing order is right but I’ll triple check
Sounds like a exhaust gasket leak
Probably right thank you
Check firing order, probably not a bad idea to change plug wires. Header gaskets and timing.
What’s best wrench for getting header bolts loose? Nothing I have seems to want to fit the hard to reach ones or they are too close to the header
Get creative- all i know is use some allen head or ones with a smaller head when reinstalling them lol
Sounds like vacom also
That would be mostly just in the carb area?
That hesitation could be in the carberator.
Prob so. Thank you
make share the firing order is correct and also get that carburetor rebuilt or replaced
Alright I’ll look into that thanks!
sounds like a header leak .
That’s what I was hoping. I need to put a couple bolts in.
It sounds like a lifter tick
I hope not 😅 I’ll post a follow up with those couple headed bolts in. Hopefully it will make a good difference.
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Thank you! Sure I’d be interested if it fit in with my content. Shoot me an email at theshadetreemechanic88@gmail.com
Thanks!
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Watched both videos. 1) It’s not an 82. 2) The tick on this video is an exhaust leak. Likely from the header gasket. 3) If your firing order is correct, be sure the timing is. 4) With a built engine and unknown specs, this is going to take a lot more work tuning than what your skill set seems to be at this point. Once it’s running halfway decent, I’d have someone that knows what they’re doing with timing and carb jetting to tune it before you either blow it up by running too lean, or wash out cylinders by running too rich. That’s also why it doesn’t have the chop you were expecting. It’s idling too high to hear it.
Man you have a great ear!!! You’re exactly right on all fronts. Stand by for next episode, I brought in a pro!!! Thanks for following along. Please continue to chime in. I need all the help I can get!! Thanks!
@@okspeedshop also, if you are going to be committed to doing this sort of thing, buy you a borescope so you can see into the cylinders of these vehicles that have been sitting for long periods. Being able to see the pistons and cylinder walls can tell you a lot and save you a lot of time. And buy you a compression tester too while you’re at it.
@@W.A.R.R. awesome I just preferred a compression tester but I’ll get me a bore scope also. I have definitely found my new passion. Have a lot to learn but you guys have all been a huge help and I know I’ll get there. Thanks again for the advice. Please keep it coming as you see fit!
Find a Old school mechaic to give U a hand
I have one in mind. Thank you
Would you sell it?
Not planning to try to sell it right now but heck every man has his price 😜
Your going to spin a bearing revving that motor like that after being locked up
Woops hopefully didn’t jack it up
You need starter shims
I was asking about that. How do I know that? And what does it do?
Get a timing light, do some research on timing, that will help a lot
For that starter problem check your flywheel for gaps broken spots
Awesome ok yes I’ll start researching that and good point on flywheel. Thanks
@@okspeedshop didn't you find a flywheel in the bed when you got the truck
@@donbodi3372 yes I did! Wonder why…. 👀
@@okspeedshop could be to replace that one that's in the truck now, that may of then what the last owner said when he told you that he messed something up, possibly the flywheel
Don't really sound like you have a big cam in it . I had a maid cam in my 400 that was in my corvette and you could hear it was cammed .
I’m about to post a new vid on her tuned up. Let me know if you can hear it any more
And carb needs tuning it’s got a stumble when you press the gas.the starter issues sounds like a wire touching somewhere
Tach wire is chewed. I’m sure others are as well. I’ll get on fixing that soon in next vid. Gotta get this thing purring. Thanks for the help.
Your idle is way to high you need to adjust it a little lower
Ok I’ll try that thanks!
Sticky vavle
Very possible. How do you unstick it?
Carb is idled too rich.
Yes it was!! Let me know what you think about latest video!
Dead/bad gas
R45ts
So you think I should find some and reinstall?
@@okspeedshop nah wait till you foul them out from all your cold start n pegs lol, poor truck doesn’t even get oil pressure before its 3k haha
@@erscustoms911 haha probably smart. 😂😵
@@okspeedshop no it’s coming along nicely man, my spark plugs are the cheapest mower plugs walmart had! Camaro runs fine
Misfires
What do you think is causing that?