The scene with Patton directing traffic never happened. It was stolen from a real event during Battle of Bulge. German General Model directing panzer traffic to clear a jam early phases of the counter offensive. Needless appropriation.
Eisenhower best boy is monty and patton. And both of them indeed gave Ike one hell of the pain in the neck. But every campaign in europe, always gotta be Monty and Patton do the spearhead... And they always make it and bring the Victory Trophy.
My maternal grandfather idolized Patton. He pulled him out of the bulge. My father's family is another matter. They were the cousins of the enlisted man who Patton claimed was a coward. Truth be told the cousin was a drunk after the war. Never made much. And never got back into a real life.
After the war, the unit my great-uncle was in was stationed at a town by a lake. The rule was that the enlisted men could go in the lake on any day except Sunday, when Patton was suppose to have it all to himself. On one particular Sunday, my great-uncle was on the shore of the lake with a German woman he referred to as "Senorita" (at this point in the story my great-aunt said "Woman? A woman?!" My great-uncle just said, "Not now, Darris. I'm telling a story"). Then he heard Patton's motor boat coming towards him. He hid behind some rocks and asked the German woman not to say anything about him. Sure enough, Patton came right over to the lady, and struck up a conversation. How was she on this fine day? She said that she was fine. Were his men being polite; were they behaving themselves? She said that they were. It went on like that for a bit longer before my great-uncle heard the boat start to pull away again. As it did, he heard Patton shout, "It's all right, soldier, you can come out now!" EDIT: Wow! Didn't expect this to get so much attention. Thank you all!
Not really. Patton wasn't the type to dig in. He hated Market Garden precisely because he knew the marshlands of Belgium and the Netherlands would be in hospitable to tanks, plus the Germans could use the numerous small towns as perfect staging grounds for Guerrilla warfare. He also knew as the Germans did that route was the shortest route to Berlin and quickly moved to reinforce that line as opposed to stopping Patton lest he cross the Rhine.
@@THETexzilla Patton was a wanker that didn't give a shit about the men he commanded, he was an over rated, delusional fucktard, but you Yanks ain't known for your military skills though, you've yet to win a major conflict on your own!
Drpepper687 yeah we would've have used 79th armoured div specially equipped for task. You're making excuses for his failure. He didn't learn from it after being repelled time & again. Capture more territory despite outnumbering the Germans 5-1 through most of the campaign! Look at Fort Driant 10,000 US vs 1,000 Germans & the Germans won ffs!! What does that tell you?!?
I believe he actually said " Give me the men and material and I will go through Europe like shit through a goose, the first quote was a miss quote because that 400,000 gallons wasn't mentioned
billt1954 Thing was Scott had second thoughts I read about taking the role. At first he thought Patton was just a basic right-wing military hawk but as Scott learned who he was portraying he realized Patton was a very complicated man that couldn’t be described so away so easily. But yeah, he nailed the role in legendary status. Even people who never seen or heard of this movie know the movies opening scene.
The story I’ve heard is they first offered the lead to Rod Steiger who turned it down because he felt it was too right-wing, he chose to play Napoleon instead. They next tried Telly Savalas but he wanted too much money
Ox van cool Why is that funny? Monty was a brilliant commander superseded due to American Greed. Britain was on its ass (despite holding out in a way that would've had most nations shitting it's pants) and we took full advantage. We leant our services in exchange for vast reparations. Paid off very recently (Britain had to suck up all manner of Nuclear bases in the 80's because of the post war deal) Patton and Eisenhower were short term thinkers, essentially poor military minds; elevated due to the American desire to appear as victors. America was late, just like with WW1, selfish and have taken credit ever since. We should be ashamed for pretending that 'We saved your ass.... etc. etc." Fuck private Ryan and Fuck Patton. America needs to grow up. I mean.... We just elected Trump! The world thinks we're retarded.... With damn good reason.
Ox van cool I'll give you that. The film is amazing, Scott is amazing (forgotten the guy's name who was supposed to be Patton) I have the same problem with Brit films which fail to give proper credit. Plus, it was a different age. I obviously had a hair across me arse that night.
"Monty was a brilliant commander" Doesn't explain why he ignored intell around Arnhem having a SS Panzer Division and almost wiped out the British 1st Airborne Division from existence by assuming the Germans consisted of old men and young boys. Also foolish to think the war could of ended by Christmas just because of one gigantic thrust upwards. And he blatantly told the press that HE was the one responsible for countering the German offensive during the Battle of the Bulge. Eisenhower was right to never allow Monty to have another word at the table after the disaster that was Operation Market Garden. In fact, both he and Bradley had a good chuckle when Monty was furious that he was stopped by US Army MPs to check his identification card. Patton's thrust down center to the River Rhine had the best chance of entering Germany. His army was literally beating the Germans to the pulp that they couldn't mount any effective counter attack. By rerouting his fuel and ammo supply to Monty's greatest failed operation, this allowed the Germans to reinforce the River Rhine's defenses to counter Patton's now depleted forces.
My grandfather was Patton's driver during the first part of the war. My grandfather then saved someones life by putting out a person who was on fire with his bare hands and got severely burned in the act and received the Soldiers Medal. Patton also rewarded him by making him a tank commander in the 10th armored division. At that time the 10th just got to a place called Bastogne. As long as my father could remember he always had a picture of Patton on his wall and my grandfather would salute it everyday.
The 10th are the often forgotten part of the defense of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge - often forgotten behind the legendary presence of the 101st in spite of the crucial value their tanks played in holding the lines. Hell, the 101st likely wouldn't have made it to Bastogne if it wasn't for the 10th holding the line
Wilmer Sandström, don’t forget that America was the leading producer of fuel at that time and the government was taking over control of companies telling them what to produce.besides back then oil was so plentiful that it used to leak out of the ground. Back then a dollar was a dollar.
Bradly, who was still alive during the making of Patton, had a heavy hand in shaping his own dialog (and perhaps that of Patton) in this scene. Patton was brilliant. Scott, as an actor, bring this remarkable character of history to life for generations to come. I don’t think we’ve seen any movie with such a dynamic and high spirited re-enactment of a 20th century leader.
Geesh- I remember watching this movie when I was a kid everytime it was on either channel 56 or channel 38 here in the Boston area. One of my favorite WW11 movies. The other ones they showed every few months were "Kelly's Heroes", "The Dirty Dozen", "The Great Escape", "The Longest Day", and "Tora, Tora, Tora." In my mind they still hold up as good entertainment. Those were the days when you had to read the TV guide to know what was coming up for the month . . . Darn kids with your gizmos. . . . I'm a grumpy old man!
My mom was 2 years old in the town of Nierstein, Germany where Patton crossed the Rhine and his tanks rolled through. (In history books it's always called Oppenheim, an adjoining town.) My German grandparents told the story of a family that had a baby that was very ill and needed powdered milk. They luckily found a US lieutenant that spoke fluent German who got a doctor to look at the sick baby and gave powdered milk and medicine to them. Also, to this day my mom hates peanut butter given by the ton in US aid right after the war. Without the after effects of WW2 and the Vietnam War my Dad wouldn't have been drafted and stationed in then West Germany. Crazy how history affects each of us in personal ways directly, and indirectly.
My mother (she was 6 when the war ended) is the same, to this day she can't stand peanut butter for the same reason, it's all they had for a while after the war. She also remembers they only had cornmeal to cook bread with; a mix up with the translation over flour vs Mais.
@@marcusdamberger I see why the mistranslation. Funny our shared history isn't it? My mom (who learned this from my Oma) is capable of making wonderful meals with very little. My German family visited quite often during the 70's and 80's. A few of them said they'd never go to the US but when they finally did they always would come back. My parents made friends with a number of other former GI's and their German wives they brought back with them. Lots of parties, fun times growing up.
Eisenhower to Patton: "you are to bypass Trier because its heavily defended and will require at least 4 Divisions to capture"; Patton to Eisenhower: "have taken Trier with 2 Divisions; what do you want me to do, give it back?"
"I didn't pick you! Ike picked you." One the best dramatic scenes in the film, you can see Patton wilt (just) slightly when he realizes Bradley didn't ask for him.
I saw it differently, Bradley's frustrated speech was a back-handed compliment to Patton: he was telling Patton that the overall commander of both of them had chosen him.
captmitty, Yeah, Patton was searching for his manhood as he battled SS panzer troups across Europe. Umm.. don't you have a peaceful lil' riot to attend?
@@marcroche9324 1943 - fighting Germans in Africa, when they were weakened enough by Brits. 1944 - fighting second-grade German divisions with complete numerical, materiel and air superiority, while Germany already lost its best soldiers and German economy was already in its death throes. 1945 - fighting third-grade German divisions which were surrendering en-masse while the best available troops were sent East to stop Red Army from invading Germany. Best general in the US history, folks. Just pitiful.
@@thatdude3938 Hey “ that dude “ yea you.........what is the problem. Oh that’s right...you think Biden won and now it is time to bad mouth the great Patton.....Courts will decide the race and you can crawl back into mommy’s basement.
Imagine having a leader who gets the job done, but he has a personality that pisses people off. His strategies work, he does what he says, he fulfills his promises and he does what others fail to do. But, the way people take him becomes more important than anything he's accomplished. Imagine that.
Except with Trump, almost nothing he did actually worked. Idiots like you just choose to believe his lies. Take for instance the economy. Every Trump boot-licker like you thinks he improved it. You disregard 2020 (Covid was not Trumps doing) and then compare GDP growth over Trumps 3 years to Obama's last 4. It was almost identical....withing a few tenths of a %. All those lies about the best economy ever...but if you look at the actual GDP growth data....no real difference. Why? Because Trump did nothing policy wise that could have changed the economy.
If you're trying to find a WW2 figure that compares to our recent president, I think a certain thin skinned, racist, self promoting corporal who relied on nationalistic lies to stir up an ignorant base while turning the rest of the world against his nation might make a better comparison.
Gen.George S.Patton received orders to bypass the German city of Trier as it was estimated that 4 divisions would be needed for a successful assault ,but had already taken Trier by the time the message arrived. He responded, ' Have taken Trier with 2 divisions, do you want me to give it back?'
My favourite line was, after everyone else was humming and harring about supporting bastogne he says, "i can have 3 divisions there within 48hours" lolol total boss
Americans highly overrate themselves and under value what monty did, he was just as important to the allied victory as patton was, without monty patton wouldn’t have been to do some of the things he did
Sabrina Dugan true but i never said the us was useless or anything nor did i say the uk didnt need them. Something you do forget tho is that the british won the battle of britain. There was no direct threat from invasions.
@@davidthorp01 George S. Patton is a great Soldier, but would make a terrible politician. Because, Patton spoke his mind, and couldn't care less what other thought. A very rare trait of a General, let alone a Politician. Patton was indeed a great man, leader, and had one hell of a hindsight. Too bad no one from his time could appreciate his honesty, dedication, and commitment to his beloved United States, his greater commitment to the Allied cause, to even worn Eisenhower about the Soviet threat. Truly, the last ture lead from the front General.
Some guy Well, my joke wooshed a little now didn’t it? The poster’s username is the first president’s name. I couldn’t not make the joke man. Although you make fair points on Gen. Patton’s martial skills.
As movies go, this is less about war and a lot more about the man, in the same vein as Lawrence of Arabia. The war is almost incidental to both of them. That’s why George C. Scott is so good; because he takes it beyond being a war movie.
This scene partially reflects actual events, with two exceptions. There were three allied Army Groups on the Western Front commanded by Montgomery, Bradley and Devers. Because of logistics problems, all three could not be supplied equally. Eisenhower was forced to shift supplies amongst the three Army Groups depending on circumstances. In September 1944, Eisenhower ordered Bradley's Army Group to halt while supplies were shifted to Montgomery's Army Group. This scene makes it appear that Bradley was comfortable with that decision. According to his memoir, "A Soldier's Story," Bradley was very much opposed to Eisenhower's action, apparently more so than Patton. Bradley wrote that they had the Germans on-the-run and they should keep the pressure on them and not let the Germans catch their breath. Eisenhower decided to supply Montgomery's Army Group because he promised to deliver a death-blow to the German war effort by crossing the lower Rhine (Operation Market-Garden) and capturing the industrial Rhur region before the onset of Winter. Overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary because the allies had command of the air and bombing the sites would eliminate the threat with quicker results and fewer casualties.
yeah, if we ever had a chance to 'end the war by christmas' it was by allowing patton to keep up the pressure instead of supplying that market garden debacle. but monty wanted his day in the sun and damn the quickest route to victory.
Patton was 100 miles from the Rhine, had overrun his supplies and faced none of the areas vital to Germany. Patton was also the furthest away from allied supply sources. Far from Montgomery simply wanting a day in the sun he offered to subordinate 21st Army Group to Bradley provided a decision was made to advance on a narrow front. The senior commanders: Bradley, Eisenhower and Montgomery discussed the merits of a broad front strategy or of a narrow thrust. None of them favoured a narrow thrust in the South where Bradley's subordinate Patton was.
Thank you. finally someone who points out the facts that actually mattered in this decision amomg that media hyped garbage that usually gets thrown around as soon as this topic is brought up. Pattons push virtually headed towards a dead end. Just take a map of germany and have a look on the terrain in this region an beyond - huertgen forrest was just a beginning. that area was ideal for the only respond the wehrmacht could have brought up at that time: stiff resistance in a wooden, hilly area where air support is severely hampered and sharp counteroffensives at a narrow front. Not the place to go if you were the allied army of 1944/45. Same goes to remagen and beyond btw. This also meant, that the broad front strategy at some time might have made sense to gain room for manouvers, but only until you came close to the rhine. from there on, it was clear that the way into germany would have to be somewhere in the north. 2. Montgomery wanted a narrow thrust in the north from the very beginning. In hindsight it seems that this indeed would have been the only chance to end the war before christmas (if there was any). The decision went otherwise (who said, that THAT one wasn't political, after all?) . Yes, contrary to all battle plans Montgomery made prior and afterwards - Market Garden was made in a haste and contained many faults - but it wasn't such a defeat as it's often portrayed - it just didn't achieve the most optimistic objectives it would have had to to secure entrance into germany before winter 1944/45. All in all, one could easily look at the whole story about a possible narrow push to the north from this perspective: chances to end the war by 1944 were little, they were hampered further by political decisions and detourment of troops+resources to lesser important operations. An desperate attempt was made to reach out for it but it failed for this time. Try to think of what the story for a possible push south would have been. Finally a few words about some gentlemen's remark that Patton was "keeping up the pressure": the german army - or the remnants there of - were in full retreat into germany on the WHOLE front. They - if at all - only attempted to delay the allied advance with minimum resistance. I read articles praising patton for his quick advances, gaining some 80 kilometres of area in a single day - and when I took a map and checked the general advances of that day, 21st Army made good very much the same space in the same time as did Patton or Bradley, simply because the Germans were on the run. If you want a honest comparison, look at Pattons perfromance once he actually faced an enemy that was not already thrown out of balance by someone else but was instead waiting for his attack in well prepared positions (a thing, Montgomery had to cope with more than once). If Patton could not avoid this situation and either go around such an obstacle or leave it to someone else to crack the nut he didn't perform exeptionally well actually...
33VMUH 'Overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary because the allies had command of the air and bombing the sites would eliminate the threat with quicker results and fewer casualties.' Your words. The V2 was impossible stop in flight and the chances hitting one its mobile launch sites were extremely slim. With the Germans launching missiles from built up areas the chances of avoiding civilian casualties were slight. Almost 33,000 British civilians were killed or wounded by these attacks, quite apart huge amounts of collateral damage. Thousands of British Servicemen could see V weapons being launched in The Netherlands. So don't come on here with a half baked claim that overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary.
Unlike you, Old-timer, I did not experience WWII first-hand. I was born after the war. So I defer to your version of events as you obviously experienced them first-hand.
Ike should have fired both Montgomery and Boy Browning for poor performance during Market-Garden. Unfortunately Ike let politics get the get the better of him.
@HoneyBadgerAirsoft there were a lot of things going wrong. Not the least of which was the Dutch resistance had been infiltrated before and the information considered unreliable (which included not driving on the easily flankable road)
@@stuglenn1112 never would of happened. Churchill would of escalated the situation above ikes head. Not to mention that people have rewritten history to put the blame on Monty. Ike had to look over and approve of the market garden plans which means he also believed the plan would work. Therefore he shares blame for the cock up
I think Market Garden was a good idea in practice but the British army got caught up in all the excitement of potentially reaching Berlin first and before Christmas, and made many brutal organisational and strategic mistakes. It's only down to the exemplary performance of the airborne troops that it even made any gains at all.
Patton is by far my favorite General of all time. Actually, he is my one and only favorite. He’s very smart, knows how to get morale to his soldiers and knows how to lead them is the reason why. And of course his tenacity to pursue the enemy when they’re at their weakest
And in this Film Bradley was an advisor, who over promoted how close he was with Patton. Because Patton was a real fighting General and his fame would pass the test of time. While Bradley was a yes man, who paled in comparison to Pattons abilities and knowledge on warfare.
It took both. Part of the success of D-Day was due to the fact the Germans were convinced Patton would lead it, and therefore didn't commit all their troops at Normandy.
I think you confuse "political" with administrative excellence. Two very different skills. The ability to organize and administrate while viewing the big picture is what made Ike so valuable. Ability on the battle field is an altogether different thing. Yes, political finesse is certainly part of the job. It has always been part of the job for thousands of years.
"Hell I know I'm a prima-donna.. I admit it! But what I can't stand about Montgomery is he won't admit it!" Me: Gets a huge fat grin because it hits I can relate to this sentiment 💯 😂
Idk if any of you googled it or just asked for a citation then forgot, but I think I found one. www.coursehero.com/file/p28kd78h/Hitler-called-Patton-what-translates-to-that-crazy-cowboy-general-To-prepare/
I've met a few generals during my T.I.S. and they were all very well educated professionals. Their downfalls were letting politics have a part in determining their decisions but that has been the case since the beginning of that rank, so I do not see a what the fuss is about.
Churchill would have loved telling him about his idea for Operation Unthinkable, in which the US, British, French (snicker), German and Italian(laughs) would join together and attack the Russian forces if they refused to return to their countries boarders and stay there. This probably would've started WW3 or would've extended the war for 2 to 4 more years draining the moral and resources of the Allied nations to the brink with the victory being a hollow one at the very best.
It's important to remember that Bradley's memoir was a major source for this movie, which explains a lot of why it portrays Bradley as a common soldier's general and Patton as his worst stereotypes. Patton was far from perfect, but a lot of the negative behaviors that the movie attributes to him were in reality far more commonly exhibited by Bradley. The movie leaves glosses over those traits for Bradley but not for Patton due to the source material.
Patton Gained rank riding over the same men he fought along side with in WW1 ..(Bonus war) him and MacArthur Both false heros that cost more lives due to igorance...I shall return really ment I failed at my reason of being here
@Leo Peridot I don't know if we really won a battle But i served in the Kosovo war And was apart of 678 combat sorties. Again in Afghanistan From defensive roles to resupplying food And goods to afgahani people And a wide list of family members that fought in Korea WW2 WW1as far back as record would show King william leaving Normandy to take his throne Or the Norsemen that invaded France And made "Normandy" home.......That being said You don't have to fight in a battle to see these two men for what they were before the break of WW2 America displays the Hero And his right reason While hiding his faults and failures Patton used men like meat shields And knew his tanks were not designed to take on tigers and panthers And 88mm cannons He knowingly push them forward to flush out the Germans for another wave of Shermans And Americans to fight MacArthur was given a heads up to prepare for attacks on the Philippines weeks before it happen He sat on his hands and done nothing In fact When pearl harbor was attacked he was just going home to sleep After along day of golf ............So tell me you History fact of diffrence
@Leo Peridot That's quite the history If it makes you feel better I only get A retired veterans pay of $1,246 per month since i was 39 with $1,171.85 per month from compensation. And 2hrs off my job now with pay out of a 8hr day due to a Bad neck injury From a car crash while on base..: ) I think i might of been in a Old navy store once Looking for flip flops on the way to a place called Boracay
Yes he was since communism was kosher from the beginning and guess who owns the media the same tribe. Katyn forest massacre was done by the communists and the US media blamed Germany, it did not come out till after the Berlin wall fell that the truth was told. Russia built some of the concentration camps after the war.
I was fascinated to read Patton's book (actually his memoirs made into a book) "War as I Knew it". He was a very determined man who believed in not giving the opponent a minute to breath and the best way to achieve victory was to constantly apply pressure. The problem was that he fought the war with almost no consideration to the political considerations and that just didn't jive with the realities of the time. It's too bad in many ways because after having studied WWII for 20 years, I believe the war would have ended sooner AND the Western Allies would have been in Berlin before the Russians had they given priority to Patton in supply and support, rather than Montgomery's Market Garden. And a great many more people would have escaped nearly 50 years under communism in Europe.
@@atfeldman123 It's possible, but either way I think we agree that had the Allies known what was coming (after the war), I think they would have resisted the Russian's demands to take Berlin. It would have been possible to spare a lot of people a regime that was only marginally preferable to the damn Germans.
@@canuck_gamer3359 Sadly there was another problem the US was readying itself to invade Japan and was actively demobilizing a huge number of troops to send them home. Resisting the Russians was not a guaranteed thing.
notnecessarily- we weren't login to brute force our way into berlin; nobody but patton even contemplated that-we were away going t o give that task to russians and let them take the 360,000 casualties...afetr the bulge we realized that nazis on the defensive in homeland were not to be trifled with. That said after Third army licked a serious German counterattack at Arracourt, patton could easily have pushed said the complacent german thinking they, rather than Ike/Monty, stopped Patton. and consider-if peptone had broken through Siegfried lien before it was organized/manned, germans would probably have not shifted as many troops to eastern front, allowing them to a dance quicker. Its quite possible he ultimate zones of occupation would have been further west, not east, had patton pushed,succeded andtheratened berlin.
George C. Scott played Patton great. I remember seeing this movie when it first came out. Patton was a Soldiers General. German s along with the Russians respected him as well his Men. I've always wanted to Visit his grave. 1 of America s Best General. R.I.P. Patton. We could use more like you now. Salute!
@1tiercel the difference is that Patton clearly admits his mistakes Monty? (Market Garden blaming the Polish Paras even though the operation will be a huge failure for logistics and near enemy home reinforcents.) Lol Monty has bigger EGO here even though I like him.
Nikephoros II Phokas Hitler couldn’t defeat Russia because it was supported by the US. With the allies and whatever Germans could be enlisted to fight communism (which would be a lot) and Russia’s loss of lend lease supplies, Russia would fall in no time.
@@northkoreabestkoreao9690 But not before killing a lot of allied troops thus operation unthinkable was not possible for the allied nations to fulfill and also the allies cannot begin another war because their already exhausted fighting the axis.
North Korea Best Korea \o ehhh I doubt it. By 1944-1945 the Soviets were capable of supporting themselves and in the immediate post war period the Soviets were at their strongest. Don’t forget they weren’t “alone” by any means as well. In addition to their Eastern European satellite states (of which there are many), there were literally millions of communists throughout the rest of Europe in places like France, Greece, Italy, etc. The main advantage in the post war period the allies had was nukes. Other than that it truly would have been “unthinkable” just like the name of the the operation was.
I got chills When the general said,” “YoU GIVE ME 400,000 gallons I’LL GO TO BERLIN” I was thinking it would’ve been Another SHERMANS MARCH TO THE SEA!!!!
No. The Germans would have counterattacks and destroyed or bad damaged his forces. The Allies were essentially fighting the B- Team in the West. Maybe I'm reading this wrong.
Not quite. The Spear of Destiny was held, along with a number of other historical artefacts, in a series of fortified cellars under Nuremberg Castle for safe-keeping. Nuremberg fell on the 20th of April 1945, at the hands of XV Corps, part of General Jacob Devers' 6th Army Group. After the war, in August 1945, these artifacts were tracked down by medieval studies scholar Walter Horn, who had served under Patton during the war. Not long afterwards, researchers in Vienna used x-ray testing, among other methods, which determined that the lance dated from the 8th or 9th century, ruling out a connection with the events of the 1st century. The spear now resides in the Hofburg Museum in Vienna.
@@kingy002 now, now, no need to be so venomous. That was clearly the intent of the original comment. You gotta remember that not everyone has English as their first language and many that do have English as their first language don't have as good a command of it as they may not have had the privilege of a good education, depending on when and where they grew up.
@@garynicholls1448 ignorance isn't anything to be ashamed of. No one knows everything, so we're all ignorant of something, most things really. Ask an astrophysicist about the complexities of medicine, and he'll be just as out of his depth as anyone else.
"Baby, I told you never to call me. "My president needs me. "Of course it's not just physical; one day I'm gonna make you MRS. Buck Turgeson. "Hey Shuge, don't forget to say your prayers" (Looks up to the President Muffley with a straight face).
My grandfather on my Moms Side was with him in the 7th made it Southern France took a mortar round got patched up and was sent to Patrons 3rd and did the bulge and flexed into Germany liberating Buchenwald and Dachau. Im on total Awe and Respect of him and Patton. Thats why they are the greatest generation bar none hands down.
One of the big mistakes of the Normandy campaign and breakout was the failure to prioritize Antwerp, Belgium as a port. Antwerp and the Scheldt estuary were not fully cleared of mines and German troops until mid-December, 1944. The earlier clearing of Antwerp might have made a signficant difference as a forward shipping base for supplies like fuel, ammunition, winter gear/supplies etc. The long trail from the Normandy beacheads in August-September, 1944 stretch back some 400 miles to the Belgian, Luxemburg, Holland and eastern French frontier. The Monty Arnham-Nijmegan fiasco with airborne troops was an ill concieved venture doomed to fail. It was stupid strategy to think one northern pincer attack through Holland across seven bridges and the Rhine river would have ended the war early. The German Wehrmacht were good at bouncing back with resetting infantry divisions and armored units quickly with infantry replacements, guns, ammo and equipment to make a stand. So the goal should have been Antwerp, Belgium. Ike could have ordered all Allied divisions to form hedgehogs until Antwerp was cleared too in strong defenisve positions for winter months of December, January and early February. Antwerp, Belgium could have been supplied for the breakout to cross the Rhine in early 1945. A defensive pause in a well entrenched hedgehog with forward outposts would have given American and British infantry divisions time to resupply for winter, train replacements and sit out the worst winter weather when fog and storms limited close air support. I think this plan would have been very doable to resist any German offensive or counterattack. Hedgehogs can be made up of Corps or several divisions with outposts. The artillery and armor are mostly kept within the hedgehog to form a 360 degree perimeter with outposts of minefields, pillboxes and antitank positions covering roadnetworks to and from the hedgehog area.
dfadg sadfga He was sent off on a huge loop west In Normandy and then west. Althoughn the logistics were inspired and clearly helped the rapid progress, the fact Patton faced almost no opposition was also key. The Hurtgen forest. Americans often complain about other Allied Commanders and their cautious approach. Unlike Patton they had been through WW1 and a deep sense of the need to preserve life in war, unlike Patton.
"That'll be 5 gallions!" "I'm your brother..." "That'll be 400,000 gallions." Edit: Just noticed both their names are Fred and George. What a coincidence!
Whoa! It's 2020, and I just realized something (of master-class cinema) that I'd not noticed in 50 years: Bradley *grows* in this shot -- a good 12"-15". In the beginning, Patton is a good head taller than Bradley. By 0:40 (as they're discussing logistics and Bradley needing to reign Patton in), Patton has not moved, while Bradley, as he approaches, gains height. At 0:43, Bradley has the advantage -- in height *and* in the conversation. And for most of what follows, Bradley's "standing" remains above that of the leadership-acknowledging Patton. Very cool. I would've loved to have listened in as that shot was being set up.
That's impossible, unless your talking about Patton's son. who also became a US Army general. Both McDonald's and Burger King were not around, before George Patton died in Germany.
Patton didn't even have enough troops to reach Berlin he was only provided a field army of 200,000 soldiers, while Montgomery had an entire Army Group at his disposal. If Montgomerys original plan of a 40 division thrust had been carried out, Berlin would have been in Allied hands.
I think the funniest thing Gen. Patton ever did was this: When he was military governor of Barvaria, he was trying to get the German P.O.W's to invade Russia again and get rid of Stalin. Gen. Eisenhower found out and had Patton in his office at attention. He gave him a thorough "pow wow" for that stunt. Patton was all balls back then.
fun fact. from 1950-1980 we had over an average of over 70 oil spills and leaks from tankers EVERY YEAR. 1980-2000 it was about 40 per year. 2000-2010 it was 20 per year. no one reports on this, no one gives a shit, the loss of thousands of tons of oil is "routine".
My Dad flew 35 missions in his B-24 over Germany. One of those missions was to supply Patton with fuel. On this "Milk Run" his aircraft, :Honey Gal", flew over the ONLY remaining German AA unit in the area.. The aircraft received damage to the extent that all hydraulic systems were ndamaged. The pilot brought the plane back to England but could not risk a crash landing with all the fuel on board. Everyone bailed out and Honey Gal crashed in the farm lands nearby.
I've the movie multiple times and read Bradley's book. To be honest the way the movie portrayed Bradley and Patton's relationship doesn't add up with Bradley's book. Throughout the movie Bradley is just down right disrespectful and mean to Patton. Yet in Bradley's book, although he and Patton had their differences I never once got the impression Bradley was in anyway disrespectful or mean to Patton. Yes even though Bradley questioned Eisenhower's decision to put Patton under him, thinking Patton would resent him being his superior now; Bradley said that Patton never showed any resentment towards him and both became good friends.
The 1970s (only 30 years after the war) and they couldn't wrangle up actual Shermans? Had to settle for M41A3 Bulldogs? Why? Because it was cheaper and the people watching wouldn't know any better?
Bh:Yes! They don't make movies for free or for documentary purposes. Coppola used the cheapest source of manpower and US military equipment..The Spanish Army.
I rather have "wrong tanks" that are actually there than correct tanks that are just CGI. I just use my imagination to pretend those are the correct tanks that were used.
Nope. If there is anything to be learned from playing Doom: Kill the monster in the first room. Otherwise you advance to the next room and now you have 2 monsters, one behind you and one in front of you.
@Jason York Well the monster that would win would also get all the manpower and industry of the monster that lost making it an even bigger threat than before
@@chrisgarret3285 Ah here we go, another Right-Wing blowhard thinking his fantasy in his head is actually real. Those pesky liberals are out to make your life a misery lol. make more boogeymen for you to fear.
"Ive always wanted to piss in the rhine"- Patton, shortly before pissing into the rhine in full view of his men.
True sigma male lol
been there, done that. and lemme tell you, the experience is kinda lacking, if there is nobody on the other side trying to shoot you.
We need MEN like Patton not these weaklings who use moisturizer and go to raves looking like girls.
My favorite of his quote is "If I had to choose between food or gas I will choose gas, my men can eat their belts but my tanks need fuel"
Hank Hill voice....
“I tell ya what, if George C Scott was a general, the war would have ended sooner, you know what.”
Should have converted his tanks to propane and had Strickland propane supply the 3rd Army.
14 years ago and youtube decided to recommend this to me, wonderful.
Have we discussed Metz yet? Where Patton did his WW1 General impression with his army inflicting significant numbers of casualties. On his own men.
The real Patton sounded nothing like this. He had a rather high voice.
1940's: 400,000 gallons to go to Berlin
2020: Haha stealth bomber goes:
That hits hard.
The scene with Patton directing traffic never happened. It was stolen from a real event during Battle of Bulge. German General Model directing panzer traffic to clear a jam early phases of the counter offensive. Needless appropriation.
How much will be left... .....?
Not like I really have another choice....
Just curious?
Boots on the ground!!!!!! True
Oh now, take it easy George!
Eisenhower best boy is monty and patton. And both of them indeed gave Ike one hell of the pain in the neck. But every campaign in europe, always gotta be Monty and Patton do the spearhead... And they always make it and bring the Victory Trophy.
"If fighting, then you must fight!"S̶u̶n̶ ̶T̶z̶u̶ ̶T̶F̶2̶ ̶S̶o̶l̶d̶i̶e̶r̶ Patton
What's this from?
My maternal grandfather idolized Patton. He pulled him out of the bulge. My father's family is another matter. They were the cousins of the enlisted man who Patton claimed was a coward. Truth be told the cousin was a drunk after the war. Never made much. And never got back into a real life.
*It's costs 400,000 gallons to lead this spearhead, for twelve seconds.*
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Omfg lmaooo
Some people think they can outsmart me... maybe... maybe.
beat me to it
"All of your Panzers look bloody twelve feet tall!"
After the war, the unit my great-uncle was in was stationed at a town by a lake. The rule was that the enlisted men could go in the lake on any day except Sunday, when Patton was suppose to have it all to himself. On one particular Sunday, my great-uncle was on the shore of the lake with a German woman he referred to as "Senorita" (at this point in the story my great-aunt said "Woman? A woman?!" My great-uncle just said, "Not now, Darris. I'm telling a story"). Then he heard Patton's motor boat coming towards him. He hid behind some rocks and asked the German woman not to say anything about him.
Sure enough, Patton came right over to the lady, and struck up a conversation. How was she on this fine day? She said that she was fine. Were his men being polite; were they behaving themselves? She said that they were.
It went on like that for a bit longer before my great-uncle heard the boat start to pull away again. As it did, he heard Patton shout, "It's all right, soldier, you can come out now!"
EDIT: Wow! Didn't expect this to get so much attention. Thank you all!
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Even on his down-time he never missed a thing!
Shame he was later assassinated via friendly arty
@@Zerpderp0 he died in a car crash during the occupation.
@@purplefood1 There's a weird theory floating around that he was poisoned or something while recovering from the car crash.
"I think I smell Montgomery. By God it is Montgomery!"
Not really. Patton wasn't the type to dig in. He hated Market Garden precisely because he knew the marshlands of Belgium and the Netherlands would be in hospitable to tanks, plus the Germans could use the numerous small towns as perfect staging grounds for Guerrilla warfare. He also knew as the Germans did that route was the shortest route to Berlin and quickly moved to reinforce that line as opposed to stopping Patton lest he cross the Rhine.
Wtf
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"I think I smell Montgomery. By God it is Montgomery!" Needs a bar of soap?
@@THETexzilla Patton was a wanker that didn't give a shit about the men he commanded, he was an over rated, delusional fucktard, but you Yanks ain't known for your military skills though, you've yet to win a major conflict on your own!
Patton: "Give me 400,000 gallons"
Rick from Pawn stars: "The best i can do 200,000 i am taking a big risk"
I got to get it re-framed, it's going to sit on the shelf for a while taking up space...
Let me call someone who knows more.
*Slaps Sherman tank twice* " What you have right here... is a fake" *Dramatic sting*
Dont forget his proverbial laugh...
Lol
Patton was one of the few US commanders who knew how to use tanks. Many German generals praised his performances too.
Like the allies did to Rommel :))
Patton also got a lot of soldiers killed cause of his massive ego , only cause he wanted to beat Montgomery
FYI Most stories of "the germans praised/feared XYZ" are retrospective or come from the allies POV as a way to raise morale
Ahh.. he used his Armour really well at Metz.. took him 3 months to capture the place : /
Drpepper687 yeah we would've have used 79th armoured div specially equipped for task. You're making excuses for his failure. He didn't learn from it after being repelled time & again. Capture more territory despite outnumbering the Germans 5-1 through most of the campaign! Look at Fort Driant 10,000 US vs 1,000 Germans & the Germans won ffs!! What does that tell you?!?
I believe his actual quote was " Give me that 400,000 Gallons and I'll go through Europe like shit through a goose " This was Montgomery's memoir's
And he would have. But, stopping the V weapon assault on England was a priority mission.
And I make this statement as a avid admirer of Gen. Patton.
I’m pretty sure in the film, he said pain in the ass, not pain in the neck. This must be the sanitized Family Research Council version
Absolutely, this is the sanitized TV version. I saw the original movie in a theater. However, the family research council was not formed until 1983.
That line is in the movie, though not here. I forget where exactly it is.
I believe he actually said " Give me the men and material and I will go through Europe like shit through a goose, the first quote was a miss quote because that 400,000 gallons wasn't mentioned
Honestly, could anyone else other than George c Scott have played Patton? Absolutely bloody marvellous.
billt1954 Thing was Scott had second thoughts I read about taking the role. At first he thought Patton was just a basic right-wing military hawk but as Scott learned who he was portraying he realized Patton was a very complicated man that couldn’t be described so away so easily. But yeah, he nailed the role in legendary status. Even people who never seen or heard of this movie know the movies opening scene.
Ike's son, who knew Patton, said this film wasn't a great representation of him.
@@SamLemont Having heard a Patron speech I can understand that. Scott made him sound far more dramatic, for Hollywood.
Usually leftist actors love to play the right so they can make them look like lunatics. @@Rimasta1
The story I’ve heard is they first offered the lead to Rod Steiger who turned it down because he felt it was too right-wing, he chose to play Napoleon instead. They next tried Telly Savalas but he wanted too much money
" I think I smell Montgomery" lol
Ox van cool Why is that funny? Monty was a brilliant commander superseded due to American Greed. Britain was on its ass (despite holding out in a way that would've had most nations shitting it's pants) and we took full advantage. We leant our services in exchange for vast reparations. Paid off very recently (Britain had to suck up all manner of Nuclear bases in the 80's because of the post war deal) Patton and Eisenhower were short term thinkers, essentially poor military minds; elevated due to the American desire to appear as victors. America was late, just like with WW1, selfish and have taken credit ever since. We should be ashamed for pretending that 'We saved your ass.... etc. etc." Fuck private Ryan and Fuck Patton. America needs to grow up. I mean.... We just elected Trump! The world thinks we're retarded.... With damn good reason.
Mick G. The way he says it is halarous
Ox van cool I'll give you that. The film is amazing, Scott is amazing (forgotten the guy's name who was supposed to be Patton)
I have the same problem with Brit films which fail to give proper credit. Plus, it was a different age. I obviously had a hair across me arse that night.
My god it is Montgomery
"Monty was a brilliant commander"
Doesn't explain why he ignored intell around Arnhem having a SS Panzer Division and almost wiped out the British 1st Airborne Division from existence by assuming the Germans consisted of old men and young boys. Also foolish to think the war could of ended by Christmas just because of one gigantic thrust upwards. And he blatantly told the press that HE was the one responsible for countering the German offensive during the Battle of the Bulge. Eisenhower was right to never allow Monty to have another word at the table after the disaster that was Operation Market Garden. In fact, both he and Bradley had a good chuckle when Monty was furious that he was stopped by US Army MPs to check his identification card.
Patton's thrust down center to the River Rhine had the best chance of entering Germany. His army was literally beating the Germans to the pulp that they couldn't mount any effective counter attack. By rerouting his fuel and ammo supply to Monty's greatest failed operation, this allowed the Germans to reinforce the River Rhine's defenses to counter Patton's now depleted forces.
"I have a lot of faults . . . but ingratitide isn't one of them."
I think this line just changed my life very, very slightly.
Patton’s son also became a US Army general in Armor. While stationed in W.Germany he became friends with Rommel’s son.
Holy shit
Apparently Rommel's son also became friends with Montgomery's son.
I hope that's true. Cuz I have no doubt in my mind the real Patton & Rommel would have been friends too, if either got the chance.
My grandfather was Patton's driver during the first part of the war. My grandfather then saved someones life by putting out a person who was on fire with his bare hands and got severely burned in the act and received the Soldiers Medal. Patton also rewarded him by making him a tank commander in the 10th armored division. At that time the 10th just got to a place called Bastogne. As long as my father could remember he always had a picture of Patton on his wall and my grandfather would salute it everyday.
The 10th are the often forgotten part of the defense of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge - often forgotten behind the legendary presence of the 101st in spite of the crucial value their tanks played in holding the lines. Hell, the 101st likely wouldn't have made it to Bastogne if it wasn't for the 10th holding the line
I smell cap
@@GiantsRTheBest1 cap?
bullshit
Wow your grandfather ripped out Dick Winters and Easy Company that’s fucking incredible
That will be $2.25 a gallon sir.
09rja. will. that. be
cash or credit. gorge
don" t forget your green stamps. 🐴
@Martin M Well that would still make it around $2 when adjusted for inflation.
Wilmer Sandström, don’t forget that America was the leading producer of fuel at that time and the government was taking over control of companies telling them what to produce.besides back then oil was so plentiful that it used to leak out of the ground. Back then a dollar was a dollar.
In 1944 money? I do believe Patton would have pistol whipped someone.
Bruh inflation
Bradly, who was still alive during the making of Patton, had a heavy hand in shaping his own dialog (and perhaps that of Patton) in this scene. Patton was brilliant. Scott, as an actor, bring this remarkable character of history to life for generations to come. I don’t think we’ve seen any movie with such a dynamic and high spirited re-enactment of a 20th century leader.
@John Cornell Sounded nothing like Patton? What do you mean his voice? If that's the case reread scasy1960's comment she/he did not say that.
Geesh- I remember watching this movie when I was a kid everytime it was on either channel 56 or channel 38 here in the Boston area. One of my favorite WW11 movies. The other ones they showed every few months were "Kelly's Heroes", "The Dirty Dozen", "The Great Escape", "The Longest Day", and "Tora, Tora, Tora." In my mind they still hold up as good entertainment. Those were the days when you had to read the TV guide to know what was coming up for the month . . . Darn kids with your gizmos. . . . I'm a grumpy old man!
Im glad that you enjoyed it sir!
World war eleven? What happened in the other 8???
favorite WWII* movies. World War II not World War 11 The second world war, not the eleventh.
Shit, We got Ww1 and 11 now, i don't even wanna know what happened in 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 and 10.
What’s this one called?
My mom was 2 years old in the town of Nierstein, Germany where Patton crossed the Rhine and his tanks rolled through. (In history books it's always called Oppenheim, an adjoining town.) My German grandparents told the story of a family that had a baby that was very ill and needed powdered milk. They luckily found a US lieutenant that spoke fluent German who got a doctor to look at the sick baby and gave powdered milk and medicine to them. Also, to this day my mom hates peanut butter given by the ton in US aid right after the war. Without the after effects of WW2 and the Vietnam War my Dad wouldn't have been drafted and stationed in then West Germany. Crazy how history affects each of us in personal ways directly, and indirectly.
My mother (she was 6 when the war ended) is the same, to this day she can't stand peanut butter for the same reason, it's all they had for a while after the war. She also remembers they only had cornmeal to cook bread with; a mix up with the translation over flour vs
Mais.
@@marcusdamberger I see why the mistranslation. Funny our shared history isn't it? My mom (who learned this from my Oma) is capable of making wonderful meals with very little. My German family visited quite often during the 70's and 80's. A few of them said they'd never go to the US but when they finally did they always would come back. My parents made friends with a number of other former GI's and their German wives they brought back with them. Lots of parties, fun times growing up.
Eisenhower to Patton: "you are to bypass Trier because its heavily defended and will require at least 4 Divisions to capture"; Patton to Eisenhower: "have taken Trier with 2 Divisions; what do you want me to do, give it back?"
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"I didn't pick you! Ike picked you." One the best dramatic scenes in the film, you can see Patton wilt (just) slightly when he realizes Bradley didn't ask for him.
I saw it differently, Bradley's frustrated speech was a back-handed compliment to Patton: he was telling Patton that the overall commander of both of them had chosen him.
Patton stopped and pissed into the Rhine river when he crossed it no lie . 😁
And the rhine did not care.
That's well known
captmitty,
Yeah, Patton was searching for his manhood as he battled SS panzer troups across Europe.
Umm.. don't you have a peaceful lil' riot to attend?
@@marcroche9324
1943 - fighting Germans in Africa, when they were weakened enough by Brits.
1944 - fighting second-grade German divisions with complete numerical, materiel and air superiority, while Germany already lost its best soldiers and German economy was already in its death throes.
1945 - fighting third-grade German divisions which were surrendering en-masse while the best available troops were sent East to stop Red Army from invading Germany.
Best general in the US history, folks.
Just pitiful.
@@thatdude3938 Hey “ that dude “ yea you.........what is the problem. Oh that’s right...you think Biden won and now it is time to bad mouth the great Patton.....Courts will decide the race and you can crawl back into mommy’s basement.
I like this scene. The chemistry between Malden and Scott is excellent. You can almost feel the tension as though they were heading into Germany.
One of the TOP 5 acting performances in Motion Picture History. PERIOD.
Imagine having a leader who gets the job done, but he has a personality that pisses people off. His strategies work, he does what he says, he fulfills his promises and he does what others fail to do. But, the way people take him becomes more important than anything he's accomplished. Imagine that.
My thoughts exactly. Foreshadowing of how todays army is run. Go along to get along. Joke.
Except with Trump, almost nothing he did actually worked. Idiots like you just choose to believe his lies. Take for instance the economy. Every Trump boot-licker like you thinks he improved it. You disregard 2020 (Covid was not Trumps doing) and then compare GDP growth over Trumps 3 years to Obama's last 4. It was almost identical....withing a few tenths of a %. All those lies about the best economy ever...but if you look at the actual GDP growth data....no real difference. Why? Because Trump did nothing policy wise that could have changed the economy.
Include 2020 and the Trump economy was the worst 4 years since the Great Depression!
If you're trying to find a WW2 figure that compares to our recent president, I think a certain thin skinned, racist, self promoting corporal who relied on nationalistic lies to stir up an ignorant base while turning the rest of the world against his nation might make a better comparison.
@@jaredjones7632 correct. The difference is the one who lived in Vienna was a LOT smarter than the more recent one.
"Old blood and guts"
Our blood
And his guts.
One of America's finest soldiers.
My grandfather said they all hated him.
@@michaelsaylor8425 he was a hardass, but by God, he got results.
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 you mean like this? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Force_Baum
@@michaelsaylor8425 So, patton was right about some of his soldiers........ pussies.
A pint of sweat saves a gallon of blood
Pattons real voice is the total opposite of George Scott.
But for the movie’s purposes it is so much better.
Oh yeah. Patton would have KILLED to have had George C. Scott's voice!
Gen.George S.Patton received orders to bypass the German city of Trier as it was estimated that 4 divisions would be needed for a successful assault ,but had already taken Trier by the time the message arrived. He responded, ' Have taken Trier with 2 divisions, do you want me to give it back?'
Man, what a pair of actors these two were. Someone broke the mold when these two were born.
My favourite line was, after everyone else was humming and harring about supporting bastogne he says, "i can have 3 divisions there within 48hours" lolol total boss
My Grandfather and great-uncle we're with Patton 3rd Army under the command of Patton
I was a babe in arms when US tankers rolled into Suhl in Thuringia. I wonder if they were Patton's lads.
Sometime circa late 90's/early 2000's, I interviewed Melvin Gainer. He served as a sniper under Patton. The general nicknamed him "Gainer the gunner".
This command decision was known as " The Fuel Monty ".
"I think I smell Montgomery ..."
Said while standing by cow manure ...
Americans highly overrate themselves and under value what monty did, he was just as important to the allied victory as patton was, without monty patton wouldn’t have been to do some of the things he did
Sabrina Dugan true but i never said the us was useless or anything nor did i say the uk didnt need them. Something you do forget tho is that the british won the battle of britain. There was no direct threat from invasions.
"George, you'd make a good traffic cop." Patton thinking * and brad, you'd make a good paperboy...*
George, you’d make a fine president.
@@davidthorp01 George S. Patton is a great Soldier, but would make a terrible politician. Because, Patton spoke his mind, and couldn't care less what other thought. A very rare trait of a General, let alone a Politician. Patton was indeed a great man, leader, and had one hell of a hindsight.
Too bad no one from his time could appreciate his honesty, dedication, and commitment to his beloved United States, his greater commitment to the Allied cause, to even worn Eisenhower about the Soviet threat.
Truly, the last ture lead from the front General.
Some guy Well, my joke wooshed a little now didn’t it?
The poster’s username is the first president’s name. I couldn’t not make the joke man. Although you make fair points on Gen. Patton’s martial skills.
@@davidthorp01 Thank you. I didn't realize your joking.
Scott was magnificent in this role. One of the very best old school war films.
lost in space 54 script written by Francis Ford coppola (godfather)
As movies go, this is less about war and a lot more about the man, in the same vein as Lawrence of Arabia. The war is almost incidental to both of them. That’s why George C. Scott is so good; because he takes it beyond being a war movie.
@@thethirdman225 Yes, I agree. A good observation👍
@@billt1954 Thanks
This scene partially reflects actual events, with two exceptions. There were three allied Army Groups on the Western Front commanded by Montgomery, Bradley and Devers. Because of logistics problems, all three could not be supplied equally. Eisenhower was forced to shift supplies amongst the three Army Groups depending on circumstances. In September 1944, Eisenhower ordered Bradley's Army Group to halt while supplies were shifted to Montgomery's Army Group. This scene makes it appear that Bradley was comfortable with that decision. According to his memoir, "A Soldier's Story," Bradley was very much opposed to Eisenhower's action, apparently more so than Patton. Bradley wrote that they had the Germans on-the-run and they should keep the pressure on them and not let the Germans catch their breath. Eisenhower decided to supply Montgomery's Army Group because he promised to deliver a death-blow to the German war effort by crossing the lower Rhine (Operation Market-Garden) and capturing the industrial Rhur region before the onset of Winter. Overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary because the allies had command of the air and bombing the sites would eliminate the threat with quicker results and fewer casualties.
yeah, if we ever had a chance to 'end the war by christmas' it was by allowing patton to keep up the pressure instead of supplying that market garden debacle. but monty wanted his day in the sun and damn the quickest route to victory.
Patton was 100 miles from the Rhine, had overrun his supplies and faced none of the areas vital to Germany. Patton was also the furthest away from allied supply sources.
Far from Montgomery simply wanting a day in the sun he offered to subordinate 21st Army Group to Bradley provided a decision was made to advance on a narrow front.
The senior commanders: Bradley, Eisenhower and Montgomery discussed the merits of a broad front strategy or of a narrow thrust.
None of them favoured a narrow thrust in the South where Bradley's subordinate Patton was.
Thank you. finally someone who points out the facts that actually mattered in this decision amomg that media hyped garbage that usually gets thrown around as soon as this topic is brought up.
Pattons push virtually headed towards a dead end. Just take a map of germany and have a look on the terrain in this region an beyond - huertgen forrest was just a beginning. that area was ideal for the only respond the wehrmacht could have brought up at that time: stiff resistance in a wooden, hilly area where air support is severely hampered and sharp counteroffensives at a narrow front. Not the place to go if you were the allied army of 1944/45. Same goes to remagen and beyond btw. This also meant, that the broad front strategy at some time might have made sense to gain room for manouvers, but only until you came close to the rhine. from there on, it was clear that the way into germany would have to be somewhere in the north.
2. Montgomery wanted a narrow thrust in the north from the very beginning. In hindsight it seems that this indeed would have been the only chance to end the war before christmas (if there was any). The decision went otherwise (who said, that THAT one wasn't political, after all?) . Yes, contrary to all battle plans Montgomery made prior and afterwards - Market Garden was made in a haste and contained many faults - but it wasn't such a defeat as it's often portrayed - it just didn't achieve the most optimistic objectives it would have had to to secure entrance into germany before winter 1944/45. All in all, one could easily look at the whole story about a possible narrow push to the north from this perspective: chances to end the war by 1944 were little, they were hampered further by political decisions and detourment of troops+resources to lesser important operations. An desperate attempt was made to reach out for it but it failed for this time. Try to think of what the story for a possible push south would have been.
Finally a few words about some gentlemen's remark that Patton was "keeping up the pressure": the german army - or the remnants there of - were in full retreat into germany on the WHOLE front. They - if at all - only attempted to delay the allied advance with minimum resistance. I read articles praising patton for his quick advances, gaining some 80 kilometres of area in a single day - and when I took a map and checked the general advances of that day, 21st Army made good very much the same space in the same time as did Patton or Bradley, simply because the Germans were on the run. If you want a honest comparison, look at Pattons perfromance once he actually faced an enemy that was not already thrown out of balance by someone else but was instead waiting for his attack in well prepared positions (a thing, Montgomery had to cope with more than once). If Patton could not avoid this situation and either go around such an obstacle or leave it to someone else to crack the nut he didn't perform exeptionally well actually...
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'Overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary because the allies had command of the air and bombing the sites would eliminate the threat with quicker results and fewer casualties.' Your words.
The V2 was impossible stop in flight and the chances hitting one its mobile launch sites were extremely slim. With the Germans launching missiles from built up areas the chances of avoiding civilian casualties were slight.
Almost 33,000 British civilians were killed or wounded by these attacks, quite apart huge amounts of collateral damage. Thousands of British Servicemen could see V weapons being launched in The Netherlands.
So don't come on here with a half baked claim that overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary.
Unlike you, Old-timer, I did not experience WWII first-hand. I was born after the war. So I defer to your version of events as you obviously experienced them first-hand.
Operation Market Garden - what a great reason to slow Patton Down.
See: A Bridge Too Far - for what it was all about.
Ike should have fired both Montgomery and Boy Browning for poor performance during Market-Garden. Unfortunately Ike let politics get the get the better of him.
@Dan Gurău Wow, glad you let me know about that.
@HoneyBadgerAirsoft there were a lot of things going wrong. Not the least of which was the Dutch resistance had been infiltrated before and the information considered unreliable (which included not driving on the easily flankable road)
@@stuglenn1112 never would of happened. Churchill would of escalated the situation above ikes head. Not to mention that people have rewritten history to put the blame on Monty. Ike had to look over and approve of the market garden plans which means he also believed the plan would work. Therefore he shares blame for the cock up
I think Market Garden was a good idea in practice but the British army got caught up in all the excitement of potentially reaching Berlin first and before Christmas, and made many brutal organisational and strategic mistakes. It's only down to the exemplary performance of the airborne troops that it even made any gains at all.
Patton is by far my favorite General of all time. Actually, he is my one and only favorite. He’s very smart, knows how to get morale to his soldiers and knows how to lead them is the reason why. And of course his tenacity to pursue the enemy when they’re at their weakest
Bradley and Ike were political generals. Patton was a fighting general.
And in this Film Bradley was an advisor, who over promoted how close he was with Patton. Because Patton was a real fighting General and his fame would pass the test of time. While Bradley was a yes man, who paled in comparison to Pattons abilities and knowledge on warfare.
It took both. Part of the success of D-Day was due to the fact the Germans were convinced Patton would lead it, and therefore didn't commit all their troops at Normandy.
Leahy was THE political Admiral of WW2. You need both, like it or not.
I think you confuse "political" with administrative excellence. Two very different skills. The ability to organize and administrate while viewing the big picture is what made Ike so valuable. Ability on the battle field is an altogether different thing. Yes, political finesse is certainly part of the job. It has always been part of the job for thousands of years.
Patton was screwed over way too many times.
No...it's like the Omar told him...he just couldn't shut his mouth.
He screwed himself over half the time, the other half someone screwed him over
He was screwed over by the Russians to who crashed into his jeep outside berlin
Jacob Stewart ...even in the 40’s the Media Sucked. Got George into trouble time and again, with trick questions.
@@dobermanpac1064 In the words of Nathan R. Jessup....you can't handle the truth.
"Hell I know I'm a prima-donna.. I admit it! But what I can't stand about Montgomery is he won't admit it!"
Me: Gets a huge fat grin because it hits I can relate to this sentiment 💯 😂
No wonder Hitler nicknamed Gen Patton as "The Crazy Cowboy General"
In whose memoir?
Source for that claim?
Patton personally shot 3 of poncho villas men...now that's what I call border control.
Never seen that claim before, where did you read it ?
Idk if any of you googled it or just asked for a citation then forgot, but I think I found one. www.coursehero.com/file/p28kd78h/Hitler-called-Patton-what-translates-to-that-crazy-cowboy-general-To-prepare/
The acting from both men is incredible. Two titans.
They don't make 'em like that any more. Movies, or generals.
Like you've ever met a general
Modern generals: shark attack scary, pls remove
I've met a few generals during my T.I.S. and they were all very well educated professionals. Their downfalls were letting politics have a part in determining their decisions but that has been the case since the beginning of that rank, so I do not see a what the fuss is about.
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf was the closest we got to another Patton. I still remember watching his "Luckiest man in Iraq" press conference.
I dont know a whole lot about him but General Mattis could almost be compared to a modern Patton.
I'll go to Berlin!!! Dude was insane!
He knew his stuff. Insanity and genius walk hand in hand, most of the time.
No way the American people would have tolerated the death toll...it would have cost millions of lives.
Churchill would have loved telling him about his idea for Operation Unthinkable, in which the US, British, French (snicker), German and Italian(laughs) would join together and attack the Russian forces if they refused to return to their countries boarders and stay there.
This probably would've started WW3 or would've extended the war for 2 to 4 more years draining the moral and resources of the Allied nations to the brink with the victory being a hollow one at the very best.
What death toll? The German death toll? Why would they worry about the German death toll? Ayyyyy.
No, the US command estimated that 100,000 US soldiers would die taking Berlin...they thought letting 100,000 Russians die taking it was a better idea.
It's important to remember that Bradley's memoir was a major source for this movie, which explains a lot of why it portrays Bradley as a common soldier's general and Patton as his worst stereotypes. Patton was far from perfect, but a lot of the negative behaviors that the movie attributes to him were in reality far more commonly exhibited by Bradley. The movie leaves glosses over those traits for Bradley but not for Patton due to the source material.
Imagine if Patton and Rommel working Together
Rommel would be exasperated by Patton's lack of speed and initiative. Or so said Hermann Balck.
It would be like transformers.
Rommel was my favourite.
Rommel wasnt even the best blitzkrieg general... Guderian was truly scary.
TheJD Someone get Sabaton on the phone
"WE DEFEATED THE WRONG ENEMY!" Patton was murdered for speaking the truth
Patton Gained rank riding over the same men he fought along side with in WW1 ..(Bonus war) him and MacArthur Both false heros that cost more lives due to igorance...I shall return really ment I failed at my reason of being here
@Leo Peridot I don't know if we really won a battle But i served in the Kosovo war And was apart of 678 combat sorties. Again in Afghanistan From defensive roles to resupplying food And goods to afgahani people And a wide list of family members that fought in Korea WW2 WW1as far back as record would show King william leaving Normandy to take his throne Or the Norsemen that invaded France And made "Normandy" home.......That being said You don't have to fight in a battle to see these two men for what they were before the break of WW2 America displays the Hero And his right reason While hiding his faults and failures Patton used men like meat shields And knew his tanks were not designed to take on tigers and panthers And 88mm cannons He knowingly push them forward to flush out the Germans for another wave of Shermans And Americans to fight MacArthur was given a heads up to prepare for attacks on the Philippines weeks before it happen He sat on his hands and done nothing In fact When pearl harbor was attacked he was just going home to sleep After along day of golf ............So tell me you History fact of diffrence
@Leo Peridot That's quite the history If it makes you feel better I only get A retired veterans pay of $1,246 per month since i was 39 with $1,171.85 per month from compensation. And 2hrs off my job now with pay out of a 8hr day due to a Bad neck injury From a car crash while on base..: ) I think i might of been in a Old navy store once Looking for flip flops on the way to a place called Boracay
Yes he was since communism was kosher from the beginning and guess who owns the media the same tribe. Katyn forest massacre was done by the communists and the US media blamed Germany, it did not come out till after the Berlin wall fell that the truth was told. Russia built some of the concentration camps after the war.
Living on a Dollar that’s not Patton’s fault. He fought with what he had. How a war is fought doesn’t matter as much as who’s left standing.
it's the man who doesn't know when to shut up who says what needs to be said
I was fascinated to read Patton's book (actually his memoirs made into a book) "War as I Knew it". He was a very determined man who believed in not giving the opponent a minute to breath and the best way to achieve victory was to constantly apply pressure. The problem was that he fought the war with almost no consideration to the political considerations and that just didn't jive with the realities of the time. It's too bad in many ways because after having studied WWII for 20 years, I believe the war would have ended sooner AND the Western Allies would have been in Berlin before the Russians had they given priority to Patton in supply and support, rather than Montgomery's Market Garden. And a great many more people would have escaped nearly 50 years under communism in Europe.
Nailed it. I always advise everyone to read Patton, especially those most critical of him, that only know of his exploits through this film.
Market Garden really was a disaster
Instead of ending the war sooner, it probably cost a good chunk of Europe lost the communists
The problem was the supply lines were at the breaking point, what should have happened was Antwerp should have been prioritized and the port expanded
@@atfeldman123 It's possible, but either way I think we agree that had the Allies known what was coming (after the war), I think they would have resisted the Russian's demands to take Berlin. It would have been possible to spare a lot of people a regime that was only marginally preferable to the damn Germans.
@@canuck_gamer3359 Sadly there was another problem the US was readying itself to invade Japan and was actively demobilizing a huge number of troops to send them home. Resisting the Russians was not a guaranteed thing.
The whole Cold War would have been very different had George been given his 400,000 gallons.
notnecessarily- we weren't login to brute force our way into berlin; nobody but patton even contemplated that-we were away going t o give that task to russians and let them take the 360,000 casualties...afetr the bulge we realized that nazis on the defensive in homeland were not to be trifled with. That said after Third army licked a serious German counterattack at Arracourt, patton could easily have pushed said the complacent german thinking they, rather than Ike/Monty, stopped Patton. and consider-if peptone had broken through Siegfried lien before it was organized/manned, germans would probably have not shifted as many troops to eastern front, allowing them to a dance quicker. Its quite possible he ultimate zones of occupation would have been further west, not east, had patton pushed,succeded andtheratened berlin.
I do wonder what would've happened if Patton got what he wanted and Monty's plan of Market Garden hadn't happened
George C. Scott played Patton great. I remember seeing this movie when it first came out. Patton was a Soldiers General. German s along with the Russians respected him as well his Men. I've always wanted to Visit his grave. 1 of America s Best General. R.I.P. Patton. We could use more like you now. Salute!
George C. Scott has a better "war voice" than the real Patton did!
"I'm a prima donna. I admit it."
"What i hate about Montgomery is he won't admit it".
@1tiercel the difference is that Patton clearly admits his mistakes Monty? (Market Garden blaming the Polish Paras even though the operation will be a huge failure for logistics and near enemy home reinforcents.) Lol Monty has bigger EGO here even though I like him.
Should have let him take Russia while he was there.
Give him a million gallons and he’d be well into china too
Don't be ridiculous. If Napoleon and Hitler could not subdue Russia, Patton definitely couldn't.
Nikephoros II Phokas Hitler couldn’t defeat Russia because it was supported by the US. With the allies and whatever Germans could be enlisted to fight communism (which would be a lot) and Russia’s loss of lend lease supplies, Russia would fall in no time.
@@northkoreabestkoreao9690 But not before killing a lot of allied troops thus operation unthinkable was not possible for the allied nations to fulfill and also the allies cannot begin another war because their already exhausted fighting the axis.
North Korea Best Korea \o ehhh I doubt it. By 1944-1945 the Soviets were capable of supporting themselves and in the immediate post war period the Soviets were at their strongest. Don’t forget they weren’t “alone” by any means as well. In addition to their Eastern European satellite states (of which there are many), there were literally millions of communists throughout the rest of Europe in places like France, Greece, Italy, etc.
The main advantage in the post war period the allies had was nukes. Other than that it truly would have been “unthinkable” just like the name of the the operation was.
Bradley and Patton are hell good a Field Commanders, Legendary.
I got chills
When the general said,”
“YoU GIVE ME 400,000 gallons I’LL GO TO BERLIN”
I was thinking it would’ve been Another SHERMANS MARCH TO THE SEA!!!!
Didn't see a single Sherman in the clip Looked like mostly M24 Chaffees
No. The Germans would have counterattacks and destroyed or bad damaged his forces. The Allies were essentially fighting the B- Team in the West. Maybe I'm reading this wrong.
Sherman’s March to the sea pt 2
my god some people didn't learn about the Civil War in gradeschool huh?
400,000 gallons wouldn't have come close. Would need way more.
George made it to
Berlin and obtained the spear of destiny which now sits in the Smithsonian warehouse next to the ark and king tut’s gold.
I thought the Ark of the covenant was 30 ft.under Golgotha.
The Russians did get there first. I wonder how he pulled it off.
mark merzweiler to hitlers bunker yes. But Patton arrived in Berlin as they arrived at the bunker
@Alexander Caine Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Not quite. The Spear of Destiny was held, along with a number of other historical artefacts, in a series of fortified cellars under Nuremberg Castle for safe-keeping. Nuremberg fell on the 20th of April 1945, at the hands of XV Corps, part of General Jacob Devers' 6th Army Group. After the war, in August 1945, these artifacts were tracked down by medieval studies scholar Walter Horn, who had served under Patton during the war.
Not long afterwards, researchers in Vienna used x-ray testing, among other methods, which determined that the lance dated from the 8th or 9th century, ruling out a connection with the events of the 1st century. The spear now resides in the Hofburg Museum in Vienna.
BRILLIANT performance by George C Scott in a pivotal scene.
There would have been no Battle of the Bulge if Patton had been allowed to proceed.
That "pain in the neck" would have went through Berlin and straight to Moscow.
@@kingy002 now, now, no need to be so venomous. That was clearly the intent of the original comment. You gotta remember that not everyone has English as their first language and many that do have English as their first language don't have as good a command of it as they may not have had the privilege of a good education, depending on when and where they grew up.
@@Soulslayer612 That's a nice polite way of saying they are ignorant.
@@garynicholls1448 ignorance isn't anything to be ashamed of. No one knows everything, so we're all ignorant of something, most things really. Ask an astrophysicist about the complexities of medicine, and he'll be just as out of his depth as anyone else.
"b-but they'll see the big board!"
"Baby, I told you never to call me. "My president needs me. "Of course it's not just physical; one day I'm gonna make you MRS. Buck Turgeson. "Hey Shuge, don't forget to say your prayers" (Looks up to the President Muffley with a straight face).
My grandfather on my Moms Side was with him in the 7th made it Southern France took a mortar round got patched up and was sent to Patrons 3rd and did the bulge and flexed into Germany liberating Buchenwald and Dachau. Im on total Awe and Respect of him and Patton. Thats why they are the greatest generation bar none hands down.
One of the big mistakes of the Normandy campaign and breakout was the failure to prioritize Antwerp, Belgium as a port. Antwerp and the Scheldt estuary were not fully cleared of mines and German troops until mid-December, 1944. The earlier clearing of Antwerp might have made a signficant difference as a forward shipping base for supplies like fuel, ammunition, winter gear/supplies etc. The long trail from the Normandy beacheads in August-September, 1944 stretch back some 400 miles to the Belgian, Luxemburg, Holland and eastern French frontier. The Monty Arnham-Nijmegan fiasco with airborne troops was an ill concieved venture doomed to fail. It was stupid strategy to think one northern pincer attack through Holland across seven bridges and the Rhine river would have ended the war early. The German Wehrmacht were good at bouncing back with resetting infantry divisions and armored units quickly with infantry replacements, guns, ammo and equipment to make a stand.
So the goal should have been Antwerp, Belgium. Ike could have ordered all Allied divisions to form hedgehogs until Antwerp was cleared too in strong defenisve positions for winter months of December, January and early February. Antwerp, Belgium could have been supplied for the breakout to cross the Rhine in early 1945. A defensive pause in a well entrenched hedgehog with forward outposts would have given American and British infantry divisions time to resupply for winter, train replacements and sit out the worst winter weather when fog and storms limited close air support. I think this plan would have been very doable to resist any German offensive or counterattack. Hedgehogs can be made up of Corps or several divisions with outposts. The artillery and armor are mostly kept within the hedgehog to form a 360 degree perimeter with outposts of minefields, pillboxes and antitank positions covering roadnetworks to and from the hedgehog area.
Patton was the man!!
He thought so. Well that and until he actually met some opposition in a forest.
Are you referring to the Battle of the Bulge? Because that was on Bradley's front.
dfadg sadfga He was sent off on a huge loop west In Normandy and then west. Althoughn the logistics were inspired and clearly helped the rapid progress, the fact Patton faced almost no opposition was also key. The Hurtgen forest. Americans often complain about other Allied Commanders and their cautious approach. Unlike Patton they had been through WW1 and a deep sense of the need to preserve life in war, unlike Patton.
WRONG he predicted the German assault!
William DuFour Correction, he was your man and mediocre.
My uncle was a tank driver for the General he was killed over there.
May your uncle RIP. I'm sorry for your family's loss.
"That'll be 5 gallions!" "I'm your brother..." "That'll be 400,000 gallions."
Edit: Just noticed both their names are Fred and George. What a coincidence!
Whoa! It's 2020, and I just realized something (of master-class cinema) that I'd not noticed in 50 years: Bradley *grows* in this shot -- a good 12"-15". In the beginning, Patton is a good head taller than Bradley. By 0:40 (as they're discussing logistics and Bradley needing to reign Patton in), Patton has not moved, while Bradley, as he approaches, gains height. At 0:43, Bradley has the advantage -- in height *and* in the conversation. And for most of what follows, Bradley's "standing" remains above that of the leadership-acknowledging Patton. Very cool. I would've loved to have listened in as that shot was being set up.
Patton once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King. And he got it.
That's impossible, unless your talking about Patton's son. who also became a US Army general. Both McDonald's and Burger King were not around, before George Patton died in Germany.
"George you're a pain in the neck."
Betting that was edited for sensitive movie goers.
Not really. The character portrayed seem like a good Christian. A half-swear look more credible.
You have to remember, it was 1970. The MPA (at that time) would’ve probably given it an R rating, if he said anything worse.
Sounds like what a man in the 1940s would say...no?
Low Pull Well Gen. of the Army Omar Bradley was an advisor to the movie, so he knows exactly what he said.
More likely correct. Bradley was one not to swear, if at all.
I have to say that if Patton and the US army had entered Berlin before the Red Army, that would have made my day.
It'd have made the Germans' day, as well. Less raping and murder from the Red Army.
We need more Pattons!
Patton is the kind of man who makes you forget you are dying for Patton.
if you agree with patton you agree we fought the wrong enemy
@@bubblegumgun3292 We did fight the wrong enemy. The real enemy got to sit at the victory table after the war with us.
@@jebbroham1776 The Russians? Yes, they were an enemy after the war.
You can thank FDR for there spot at the table.
Patton didn't even have enough troops to reach Berlin he was only provided a field army of 200,000 soldiers, while Montgomery had an entire Army Group at his disposal. If Montgomerys original plan of a 40 division thrust had been carried out, Berlin would have been in Allied hands.
Patton: Give me 400,000 gallons
MacArthur: Give me 55 nukes
bradley and patton have such a great love hate relationship in that film.
Had they left Gen Patton alone, he would used that 400,000 gallons of fuel and parked his tanks in Moscow.
The world would have been better today because of it. Imagine no more USSR after WW2. No Red China, no communism much anywhere really.
I think the funniest thing Gen. Patton ever did was this: When he was military governor of Barvaria, he was trying to get the German P.O.W's to invade Russia again and get rid of Stalin. Gen. Eisenhower found out and had Patton in his office at attention. He gave him a thorough "pow wow" for that stunt. Patton was all balls back then.
Is this real fact or an old joke?
@@Andras_Schiff As it turned out, the USSR did get strong - so strong it got brittle and crumpled.
Patton was all balls to the very end! If only he didn't die in that stupid car accident...
God I loved George C Scott.
And nowadays we have leaders who let an oil tanker get hijacked..
And you thought things were bad 9-10 years ago? How’s life looking a decade on?
^ it's looking up.
fun fact. from 1950-1980 we had over an average of over 70 oil spills and leaks from tankers EVERY YEAR.
1980-2000 it was about 40 per year.
2000-2010 it was 20 per year.
no one reports on this, no one gives a shit, the loss of thousands of tons of oil is "routine".
@@SteveAkaDarktimes well get out there with a bucket or stop using oil products then
How exactly do you protect an oil tanker?
My Dad flew 35 missions in his B-24 over Germany. One of those missions was to supply Patton with fuel. On this "Milk Run" his aircraft, :Honey Gal", flew over the ONLY remaining German AA unit in the area.. The aircraft received damage to the extent that all hydraulic systems were ndamaged. The pilot brought the plane back to England but could not risk a crash landing with all the fuel on board. Everyone bailed out and Honey Gal crashed in the farm lands nearby.
No.
I've the movie multiple times and read Bradley's book. To be honest the way the movie portrayed Bradley and Patton's relationship doesn't add up with Bradley's book. Throughout the movie Bradley is just down right disrespectful and mean to Patton. Yet in Bradley's book, although he and Patton had their differences I never once got the impression Bradley was in anyway disrespectful or mean to Patton.
Yes even though Bradley questioned Eisenhower's decision to put Patton under him, thinking Patton would resent him being his superior now; Bradley said that Patton never showed any resentment towards him and both became good friends.
The 1970s (only 30 years after the war) and they couldn't wrangle up actual Shermans? Had to settle for M41A3 Bulldogs? Why? Because it was cheaper and the people watching wouldn't know any better?
Bh:Yes! They don't make movies for free or for documentary purposes. Coppola used the cheapest source of manpower and US military equipment..The Spanish Army.
Thank you I was about to write that, all these comments and noones pointed out that they're using M41's.
filmed in spain, spain had m41s.
Yeah that just ruined the movie take back all the Oscars.
I rather have "wrong tanks" that are actually there than correct tanks that are just CGI.
I just use my imagination to pretend those are the correct tanks that were used.
Me: Im bored.
RUclips, 13 YEARS LATER: well well well, try this on for size 😎
Wow, you should be a script writer in Hollywood.
He also said at the end of the war that we fought the wrong enemy. He was right.
Nope. If there is anything to be learned from playing Doom: Kill the monster in the first room. Otherwise you advance to the next room and now you have 2 monsters, one behind you and one in front of you.
@Jason York Well the monster that would win would also get all the manpower and industry of the monster that lost making it an even bigger threat than before
I love how folks now use RUclips for US History lessons. 😎😎😎
yep its sad
Well libs won't teach this in schools anymore sooo...
@@chrisgarret3285 Ah here we go, another Right-Wing blowhard thinking his fantasy in his head is actually real. Those pesky liberals are out to make your life a misery lol. make more boogeymen for you to fear.
@@jean-lucpicard5510 cute but you're projecting I'm not scared of a thing lib
@@chrisgarret3285 You Alt-Rights are a bunch of fucking snowflakes. You were scared of Obama.
400,000 gallons I'll go to Berlin, another 800,000 and I'll take ya all the way to Moscow
16,000,000 and I'll take out Japan too!
48,000,000 and ill take africa
Too bad he and Mcarthur weren't allowed to attack the real enemy.
I didn't pick you!!!! ike picked you!