Okay but the way that Odysseus is the first one to do the “warrior of the mi-i-i-i-i-ind thing at 2:49 and Athena instantly adopts it next time they say warriors of the mind, and then in my good bye athena uses the same tune at the end when she says this is my goodbye hits me in the most snsjjsndbdb place like they were so close
but only the first time... she uses it and then the second time she says "this is my goodbye" it's just the high note she held for the beginning of this song 😭
@@steveyouraveragehamster9383 They do in the original Odyssey, at least. At the very end when Odysseus and his family are going to be murdered by the father and men of the slain suitors, Athena shows up with Big Papa Zeus and protects Odysseus and his family. ^^
The lyrics to this implies that Athena sees Odysseus as less of a 'student' and more as her own property. Like, seriously, just listen to the opening, "I see you changing from how I *designed* you." "Have you forgotten your *purpose,* let me remind you." And honestly, that's a little bit terrifying...
It's also completely fair, because Greek gods aren't simply people whom are immensely powerful, but the very forces of nature given personalities. what Athena says is, when one considers what she truly is, not at all derogatory. In fact, being "designed" by the goddess of wisdom, why who would see that as anything but something to be proud of?
It could also implie that Athena doesn’t open up well to people especially when you hear in the song Goodbye it hurt when Odysseus called her out on being alone. I get the impression this Athena is all about business and she probably wasn’t ready to bound with Odysseus like that especially if she is not sure if he would last seeing is how her teachings would be very strict and he expectations would be high. But so far from what I’ve seen with this musical she was warming up to him and after there fight she’s still is going out of her way to help Odysseus by convincing the gods to release him. Even got mad and a little unhinged when Ares said that Odysseus was weak as his son and defends him and tells Ares to hold his tongue and that she considers his son her friend.
This was phenomenal. I like the scene with Odysseus looking at his reflection. He doesn't recognize himself. Like Athena said, he's changing from how she designed him so it was fun to see her become that reflection to take him into the mind state. I like how you replicated ancient Greek art. Again with Athena towering over him, its to remind us shes a goddess thus larger than life. Amazing
I love how massive all the gods are, honestly. Jay has said that he pictures them being around 9 or 10 feet tall, and their eyes have no pupils or irises, just the sclera, and they glow faintly white. I love that in his mind, the gods are not *trying* to pass for mortals, so they do nothing to hide their Otherness. 😊
It's insane how in a 3 mintue animation you can show the contrast from the carefree and hopeful, young Odysseus and then his older self already being more stiff and thoughtful. And I love how you showed how Athena changed too, even her being a goddess she seemed "happier" with young Odysseus., and almsot more friendly. I love your art and your portral of these characters!!
Well said! Both of them seem brighter here- it’s before he’s faced the worst of his journey (or even journeyed at all) and it’s cool to see the difference
Yes! And this translates perfectly into My Goodbye when Odysseus says how she's alone. She loved Odysseus when he was younger like a friend and they looked very close but of course her being a god they're relationship is different, when Odysseus says she's alone later it hits so much harder because how they were here
What I adore about it is that you still see glimmers of that friendship when they're older in this animatic. Athena's expression at Odysseus when she talks about the magical boar "only the best could kill" feels very subtly like "I wonder who I could be referring to, eh Odysseus?" And his smile back at her feels like "Yeah, I was pretty good back then." The friendship is still there, it's mired under so much grief, anger, hopelessness and disappointment.
@@tumblingartistWhat're you talking about? Athena did not change, the attitude of the goddess to the hero reflects Athena's expectations: in the beginning she saw the potential, in the end the result
OMG I just realised... She sings "well done, enlighten me what's your name" but I always thought she sang "well done, you lied to me, what's your name.... Please tell me I wasn't the only one hahaha
The self-high five makes me feel like he took it as if Athena was going to eventually accept him as a friend and that's why he so calmly let it pass, poor kid AND SUCH AN AMAZING ANIMATIC IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!!!
One very subtle detail I adore is the glance Athena and Odysseus share at "A magical boar only the best could kill". I love how Athena glances at Odysseus and gives him a look of like "Wow, I wonder who I could be referring to when I say 'the best'." And Odysseus gives her a slight smile back, sort of like "Yeah, I was pretty good back then." It's wonderful because its a subtle moment of teasing between two old friends, Athena trying to help build Odysseus back up by reminding him of his old glory, and finally it cements the overall theme of this song, the wonder and hope of Odysseus' early life under Athena's mentorship that's absent now.
I was looking if someone mentioned it! It’s such a powerful, bittersweet almost, moment, that made it feel almost like Athena was actively choosing not to show emotion, and Odysseus was inviting even that moment of a smile and how much it lightened his composure
Athena never really abandons him. She is the reason he eventually makes it home. It is unwise for Athena to be openly by his side when Posidon is on the war path. But she bides her time and waits. After all she is a warrior of the mind.
I don't think it's that she "fell for it", more that she was actually questioning him and in doing so revealed herself. Like when someone tells you something so improbable and you can't help but argue, and in doing so reveal more information.
Athena’s face being devoid of most detail, except eyes mouth and eyebrows, gives me the impression shes like a living statue, or that the form she presents to mortals isnt as important as her message/mission. If it was intentional than its a fantastic choice!
Knowing basically nothing about Epic, there's something I noticed after listening to this song a few times. At first, Athena things the 'warrior of the mind' line on a single pitch. When Odysseus joins in, he turns it into a run while she keeps it simple. Then, Athena actually copies *him* and makes it a run to match him as they sing it together. And the last time in the song, she continues the same way, even when she isn't matching him anymore. I don't know, it was just striking to me. Since she's the emotionless god, it felt like a subtle way of showing that she was learning more emotion from Odysseus.
yeah! ive gotten pretty quickly addicted to Epic and have been listening to the soundtrack on loop i noticed it just recently - she was the one supposed to mentor him, and sure, he learned to be more tactical and thoughtful from her, but she learned stuff from him about having fun and showing emotion She doesnt immediately adopt his way of singing, but she adopts it the second time that they sing it in unison, once theyve had time to grow closer in My Goodbye she tries to save face by acting like her only role in their interactions was that of a teacher, and that he was nothing more than a student even if he wanted to be friends, yet she actively demonstrates *against* that by continuing to use his tune of "mind" far outside of harmonising with him :D
Yeah, thats cause athena is not emotionless without reason, she got her own myths before odyseus. He is another hero to help, another burden. Yes, the gods play with them as toys. But you would cry if your favourite toy broke, would you not?
Okay but at 0:56 when they're watching the beginning of the tapestry and remembering what started their journey together and for a moment they smile at each other. I'm crying
This!! Esp with the mirrored poses both being claustrophobic in a different way. In this vid, it's due to the framing, with Athena's pose being juuuuust cropped out causing it to feel like she's whispering the command in his ear. The very epitome of "gentle reminder(threat). In "my goodbye", Athena's full body (upper torso, semantics) is hunching over Odysseus, a direct action to convey her condescension and disappointment towards his actions. I personally see the differences in each pose as being reflective of Odysseus' view of Athena. More specifically, where the first pose is cropped, he's still in his "Athena is a friend". My Goodbye's mirrored pose is when Odysseus is disillusioned to their relationship and is fully seeing that Athena, a God, will never show him the empathy a friend would give his grief (and subsequent rash behavior).
THE LEG!!!!! It's the first time I see someone draw this song and reference to the scar Odysseus has on his leg bc of the fight with the boar!! The fact you even extended that detail to his leg giving out on him while he was talking to Athena later!!! And the fact Athena has the story registered in tapestry!!! And also this depicts maybe my favorite dynamic between them, with Athena being just as cheeky as him!!! It's really cool to see the improvement since you started to animate to this musical, the angles and composition here are so neat
This might be my favorite depiction of Athena I’ve seen. The simpler and more cartoon like art style definitely helps, but her being extremely tall and slender, inhumanly so, shows she’s not a human but a god. Her face very clearly modeled off an Owl, and having an elegance to mirror not only her being a god but she’s the more formal and strategic side of war. Also, when she takes off her hood and her helmet is underneath, it wouldn’t work at all like that, but she’s a god, so it doesn’t matter. Looks sick.
My favorite things about this video: 1. The "Don't disappoint me" scene being a reflection of the one scene in My Goodbye video. 2. Odysseus's faces at 1:08 and 1:56. They make me laugh so much. 3. The water scene when Odysseus gets seemingly dragged in by his own reflection. 4. Young Odysseus. Look at him. He's a little baby man. I love it.
something i don't think i've seen others mention is that odysseus cleverly manages to divert attention from his own name to athena's, even though she never even said it he immediately latched onto a way to change the subject of the convo from him to athena (rising to her challenge by saying her name then talking about her rep), and i imagine the theatrics with his lil stick also helped to distract her, evident by the fact that she then changes the topic to mentoring him odysseus managed to trick the goddess of wisdom and tactics TWICE in one conversation, what a guy
Oh! Anyone else notice how the way Athena bends over to speak into Odysseus's ear from behind mirrors her movements in My Goodbye when she bends in and tells him what a waste of him he was?
I think one of the things I like the most about this animatic is the palpable **love** that Autolycus, Anticlea, and Laeretes display for Odysseus. The carrying, that hug during the coronation. Really displays that there were a lot more hands sculpting that boy than just Athena's.
Out of all the warrior of the mind animatics I've watched, this one has the most detailed uhm cinematography shall i call it; it's like watching a movie. From beginning to end I'm so captivated by the angles, the expressions and the way of storytelling. And omg is that Eumeaus? See, you really put your heart into those characters and I can't help but be exited by the little details like Athena without her helmet or the my goodbye reference pose. Thank you for this!!
I really like the fact that Athena can talk through Odysseus's reflection and can fly through window panes!! Also the glyphs just bring out a deeper(we see u did a lot of research!!) and impressive side of Greek mythology!! I love the fact that they're moving too, great job :D
THE HIEROGLYPHS SCENE??? The water/reflection transition??? I also noticed the “foreshadow”/parallel of Athena overlooking Odysseus’s shoulder at the end from your “My Goodbye” animatic. All in all, this entire animatic is so outstanding. I can so clearly see it being full blown animated. I’m losing my mind at how well the quality of your animatics are/are becoming. WELL DONE 👏👏👏
I love how the scene at 0:50 - 1:00 is in the artstyle of those vase drawing and it's so fluid!! Also I think it's funny that Athena is using a cloak as a disguise, as if she isn't like 7 ft tall (and the way she lifts him-)
The mentor line is great and all the little touches -- the throne being bigger than Od a task he could never truly live up, the use of the wall just awesome
I think that the reflection between “if you’re looking for a mentor […] best of friends” and in my goodbye the lines “you’re not looking for a mentor and I’m not looking for a friend” Is heartbreaking
Oh I LOVE 0:55 when Athena and Odysseus give a lil smile to each other 😭 Also the choosing mural as the carrier of expression was marvellous. Great job Wolfy!! The part 2:58 where Athena fly through the paintings and tapestries was such a talented idea😭😭 I'm crying for the last bit.
Absolutely incredible as always Wolfy. Odysseus meeting Athena for the first time seriously warmed my heart T-T You made it just as playful as I imagined. Also that self high five was hilarious
Amazing ❤ Using traditional Ancient Greek art was a super cool touch when Athena told the story of how she spotted Odyssesus' potential. And lol young Odyssesus high-fiving hinself was adorable 😂
I like how the narrative of this song takes place after he has killed the boar. Most animatics I have seen have killing the boar be the central focus of the scene.
Everything about this is so perfect 😭 Odysseus' reflection not quite being him as Athena says he's changing, the little smile they share when she says only the best could kill her boar 🥹, the fact that you included the scar story and that he stumbled afterwards, her amused face when he says he was bluffing, her refusal to high five him so he high fives himself askjslzl, the owl tapestry over his throne... This is so so good.
Baby Odysseus is so cute, he has not idea he will propose an oath that indirectly contribute to the Trojan war, have to fulfill his godsdamn oath that he couldn't get out of by pretending to go insane, spend like 10 years there, then another 10 years in a series of boats just to get back home
When Odysseus was young, he was bright and confident. But overtime as he became an adult and a king, he learnt responsibility which made him less confident and Athena is disappointed...
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. I can't even begin to explain everything I loved about it. The parallels between Odysseus in all the different stages of his life are incredible, and I loved the scene at the end where Odysseus was looking at his relfection. Athena going "don't dissapoint me" was CHILLING. incredible job as always
I don't feel like I've seen it anywhere, but I LOVE Athena's "reveal" when young Odysseus figures her out. It's such a cool transition from hooded woman to badass helmeted goddess
Omg I love your Autolycus and Laertes designs! As well as the blood running down Ody’s leg from the gash he got from the boar! That’s going to leave a nasty scar, that totally won’t come back later in the plot haha!
I'm screaming over grandpa Autolycus taking care of Ody bxhdjdngnfj this is so sweet TT And then Anticlea and Laertes welcome them back 🥺 Laertes crowning Ody and then they huuuug 😭😭😭❤️ Also, I love the tapestry(?) of Athena's past (at least that's what I assume it's showing, that particular part being about Odysseus) Kid Ody with his cool new mentor 🥲 So young. So happy... That running animation at the beginning tho🤌 Another masterpiece from you, as always ❤
Wolfy, omg- this is amazing, the replica of the Ancient Greek art?! That was phenomenal, the scene of the reflection on the water, the entire mind scape?! The way little Odysseus was filled with hope? And how he is now tired?! Not recognising himself neither in the painting nor his reflection? ATHENA?! ATHENA WITH LITTLE ODYSSEUS?! THIS IS BEAUTIFUL-
okay okay okay but at 3:21 when she leans over his shoulder to say "Don't disappoint me" she later parallels that moment in "My Goodbye" when she says "I mistook you for a General, what a waste of effort spent", effectively calling him a disappointment okay I'm normal about this musical I prommy
I dont know if it was intentional but Odysseus "protecting" his name from the get go nicely parallels protecting his name against the cyclops and I love it nonetheless!
I love how you made Athena so much. She looks almost owl like and this animation just tells you so much about her personality. She can be friendly when she wants to but stern aswell. She also just seemed happier at the beginning
I like how your version of young Odysseus is more playfully and is full of that child like engery. It gives us a little glimpse of his childhood and he is like as a young boy. Instead of just him being a bit cocky that I usually see a lot. He even give himself a high five when Athena refuse to do so XD amazing work as ever!
I can't stop looking at 0:52. The way you so accurately depicted black figure pottery art (while still keeping it RUclips friendly lol) is beautiful. Love it!
Whats really awesome about your art here is how unhuman i feel Athena looks despite being human shaped. Her eyes being empty/full is a part of that but how you drew her and the movement make her seem so different. Your whole video great showcase of skill because i homestly feel like im watching a full 24/30 frame animation. The art is drawn in such a way that the movement are expressed and my imagination fill in whats left
I love how the frame at 3:22 works as a call back/pararell to your "My goodbye" animatic. Here, Athena says to Odysseus "Don't desapoint me". Meanwhile that same frame in "My goodbye" is when she got became dissapointed of him, "What a waste of effort spend" (1:54)
May have already commented and forgotten but holy crap this is amazing! You have their personalities down to the detail, between cocky teenage odysseus to nervous adult odysseus, all the way to threatening athena to amused athena. not to mention the way you animated the wall paintings is amazing
THE CONTRAST BETWEEN ALL THE ENERGY AND HOPE HE HAD AT THE BEGINNING WITH ATHENA WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER TO HOW BLEAK HE IS IN THE CURRENT TIME, I’M SO. AHHHHH- WONDERFUL WORK AS ALWAYS WOLFY?! :)
I love this!! Your animatics are so good!! I love the expressions you make!! Like right here! 2:02 She looks so proud and tickled!! And then she pulls off her cloak and its so smooth! 2:20 Plus both of them here is so cute! Best friends even if they don't know it! 3:39
Oh my gosh! BABY ODY!!! Autolycus being a proud granddad who then carries injured grandson home??? And the hug between Laertes and Ody!!! 😭And Athena using tapestries as she's the goddes of weaving!! I love it so much!! This is incredibel thank you!
Dear lord. this animatic is pure genius. So complex in its own simplicity, and the storytelling is flawless, just flawless. Hands down the best WotM out there, congratz! :D
The scenes with the murals and tapestries were super cool. I haven’t read the odyssey so it's cool seeing flashes of Odysseus growing up. All the characters are so expressive. Teen Odysseus is adorable.
I find it amazing how you make these amazing epic musical animatics now, and i can go on your page and watch them, and then i can scroll down and watch dsmp animatics as well. You are truly one of my favorite beings of all time
Holy CRAP! I had to pause this and rewatch to catalog all of the things that are incredible! I don’t know how to articulate this, but I’ll try: your vision (or perspective? Style?) is incredible! I love the way you don’t just animate a scene that we’re looking at from a fixed distance. We are IN it! And flying and zooming around and then we’re in the painting and then the painting is on a wall and we’re in front of it and dear GOD the foreshortening (I think is the term?) on that wall when we’re right next to it is INCREDIBLE!! And the way we fell through the water at the beginning into another dimension and then the mural came to life as a memory! Just wow. Also HOW do you manage to make Athena’s face so expressive when she has no pupils and literally two lines for a mouth?!? I think your work is my favorite Epic animatic I’ve seen. Ever. Like if Epic becomes a movie, I HOPE they contact you and build the sequence for this song around what you’ve designed. It’s THAT good. WELL DONE!!!!
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okay but Odysseus high-fiving himself after being left hanging is so cute
2:32 it’s adorable
If you go for a high five and get left hanging, you have to. Thems the rules
In all the animation of this he never gets a high five back
@@037xD_not_sure He gets a high five in the one made by damia. It's very well done you should check it out.
@@037xD_not_sure There's actually an animatic I saw where Athena returns it! Its so cute!!!
Okay but the way that Odysseus is the first one to do the “warrior of the mi-i-i-i-i-ind thing at 2:49 and Athena instantly adopts it next time they say warriors of the mind, and then in my good bye athena uses the same tune at the end when she says this is my goodbye hits me in the most snsjjsndbdb place like they were so close
I can hear it!
I NEVER NOTICED THIS DETAIL
Goodbye makes me sob so hard 😭
my delulu brain is saying they’ll make up,,. right? RIGHT?
but only the first time... she uses it and then the second time she says "this is my goodbye" it's just the high note she held for the beginning of this song 😭
@@steveyouraveragehamster9383 They do in the original Odyssey, at least. At the very end when Odysseus and his family are going to be murdered by the father and men of the slain suitors, Athena shows up with Big Papa Zeus and protects Odysseus and his family. ^^
The lyrics to this implies that Athena sees Odysseus as less of a 'student' and more as her own property. Like, seriously, just listen to the opening, "I see you changing from how I *designed* you." "Have you forgotten your *purpose,* let me remind you." And honestly, that's a little bit terrifying...
It's also completely fair, because Greek gods aren't simply people whom are immensely powerful, but the very forces of nature given personalities. what Athena says is, when one considers what she truly is, not at all derogatory. In fact, being "designed" by the goddess of wisdom, why who would see that as anything but something to be proud of?
Agree with the guy above me, but yes. Mildly terrifying. Par for the course when playing god
That's a greek God for you
@tylermech66 my thoughts exactly lol
Like "Well welcome to Greek Gods" 😅
It could also implie that Athena doesn’t open up well to people especially when you hear in the song Goodbye it hurt when Odysseus called her out on being alone. I get the impression this Athena is all about business and she probably wasn’t ready to bound with Odysseus like that especially if she is not sure if he would last seeing is how her teachings would be very strict and he expectations would be high. But so far from what I’ve seen with this musical she was warming up to him and after there fight she’s still is going out of her way to help Odysseus by convincing the gods to release him. Even got mad and a little unhinged when Ares said that Odysseus was weak as his son and defends him and tells Ares to hold his tongue and that she considers his son her friend.
This was phenomenal. I like the scene with Odysseus looking at his reflection. He doesn't recognize himself. Like Athena said, he's changing from how she designed him so it was fun to see her become that reflection to take him into the mind state. I like how you replicated ancient Greek art. Again with Athena towering over him, its to remind us shes a goddess thus larger than life. Amazing
Evillious :3
@@eclipseclckwrks3420 yep my friend :)
I love how massive all the gods are, honestly. Jay has said that he pictures them being around 9 or 10 feet tall, and their eyes have no pupils or irises, just the sclera, and they glow faintly white. I love that in his mind, the gods are not *trying* to pass for mortals, so they do nothing to hide their Otherness. 😊
It's insane how in a 3 mintue animation you can show the contrast from the carefree and hopeful, young Odysseus and then his older self already being more stiff and thoughtful. And I love how you showed how Athena changed too, even her being a goddess she seemed "happier" with young Odysseus., and almsot more friendly. I love your art and your portral of these characters!!
Well said! Both of them seem brighter here- it’s before he’s faced the worst of his journey (or even journeyed at all) and it’s cool to see the difference
Yes! And this translates perfectly into My Goodbye when Odysseus says how she's alone. She loved Odysseus when he was younger like a friend and they looked very close but of course her being a god they're relationship is different, when Odysseus says she's alone later it hits so much harder because how they were here
What I adore about it is that you still see glimmers of that friendship when they're older in this animatic.
Athena's expression at Odysseus when she talks about the magical boar "only the best could kill" feels very subtly like "I wonder who I could be referring to, eh Odysseus?"
And his smile back at her feels like "Yeah, I was pretty good back then."
The friendship is still there, it's mired under so much grief, anger, hopelessness and disappointment.
Athena was always kind of a hard ass in the myths to be honest
@@tumblingartistWhat're you talking about? Athena did not change, the attitude of the goddess to the hero reflects Athena's expectations: in the beginning she saw the potential, in the end the result
For new Odyssey enjoyers- the scar he got from the boar ends up identifying him as the King of Ithaca after 20 years of being presumed dead
And autolycus with the pointy ears, for he was believed to be able to transform if i am not mistaken.
1:56 - That face
Like he's going "oh shit that worked"
FR XD
Me tho I would have died from the shock
You think that's what he thinks every time one of his tricks works? Like, he sees Troy fall and thinks "No way the stupid horse idea actually worked"
"I was joking about stabbing him in the eye but it worked" (exasperated sigh of relief)@@San-san6499
I always like to think Athena was like 'The balls on this kid... Sure, I'll let him have it.'
@@sensha5470 lol
OMG I just realised... She sings "well done, enlighten me what's your name" but I always thought she sang "well done, you lied to me, what's your name.... Please tell me I wasn't the only one hahaha
Your not
Wait what
Your not, it's definitely intentional
Same!
I did to😅
The self-high five makes me feel like he took it as if Athena was going to eventually accept him as a friend and that's why he so calmly let it pass, poor kid
AND SUCH AN AMAZING ANIMATIC IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!!!
I mean she said "we see where it ends" which indeed implies that she considers this a possibility in the future.
@@ShonicheckOoh, THIS MAKES HER SO INTERESTING
AUGHHH ATHENA. THE WAY YOU DRAW ATHENA.
literally me
@@sirencatmeow👍🏿
Is it... a good drawing? I mean its pretty good if you ask me but i couldnt understand if your comment was a hate comment or a fan comment
@Kai_Oc_Lover It's a fan comment lol
@@BigDaddyBean got it.
One very subtle detail I adore is the glance Athena and Odysseus share at "A magical boar only the best could kill". I love how Athena glances at Odysseus and gives him a look of like
"Wow, I wonder who I could be referring to when I say 'the best'."
And Odysseus gives her a slight smile back, sort of like
"Yeah, I was pretty good back then."
It's wonderful because its a subtle moment of teasing between two old friends, Athena trying to help build Odysseus back up by reminding him of his old glory, and finally it cements the overall theme of this song, the wonder and hope of Odysseus' early life under Athena's mentorship that's absent now.
I was looking if someone mentioned it! It’s such a powerful, bittersweet almost, moment, that made it feel almost like Athena was actively choosing not to show emotion, and Odysseus was inviting even that moment of a smile and how much it lightened his composure
Athena never really abandons him. She is the reason he eventually makes it home. It is unwise for Athena to be openly by his side when Posidon is on the war path. But she bides her time and waits. After all she is a warrior of the mind.
Dang you were more right than you could know
R u Athena 😂
OMG ATHENA FLYING THROUGH THE TAPESTRY THAT'S SO CREATIVE
GIGI!! I LOVE UE ART STYLE SM🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷
2:02 i like to think that she obviously didn't fell for it, but just went along since he is so smart and cunning 😂😊
I don't think it's that she "fell for it", more that she was actually questioning him and in doing so revealed herself. Like when someone tells you something so improbable and you can't help but argue, and in doing so reveal more information.
I literally just learnt that the lyric isn’t “Well done, you lied to me” it’s “Well done, enlighten me.”
My life is a lie
@@equinox4901 my life is also a lie
@@equinox4901same
Like there is no way the goddess of wisdom fell for THAT
Athena’s face being devoid of most detail, except eyes mouth and eyebrows, gives me the impression shes like a living statue, or that the form she presents to mortals isnt as important as her message/mission. If it was intentional than its a fantastic choice!
Knowing basically nothing about Epic, there's something I noticed after listening to this song a few times.
At first, Athena things the 'warrior of the mind' line on a single pitch. When Odysseus joins in, he turns it into a run while she keeps it simple. Then, Athena actually copies *him* and makes it a run to match him as they sing it together. And the last time in the song, she continues the same way, even when she isn't matching him anymore.
I don't know, it was just striking to me. Since she's the emotionless god, it felt like a subtle way of showing that she was learning more emotion from Odysseus.
yeah! ive gotten pretty quickly addicted to Epic and have been listening to the soundtrack on loop
i noticed it just recently - she was the one supposed to mentor him, and sure, he learned to be more tactical and thoughtful from her, but she learned stuff from him about having fun and showing emotion
She doesnt immediately adopt his way of singing, but she adopts it the second time that they sing it in unison, once theyve had time to grow closer
in My Goodbye she tries to save face by acting like her only role in their interactions was that of a teacher, and that he was nothing more than a student even if he wanted to be friends, yet she actively demonstrates *against* that by continuing to use his tune of "mind" far outside of harmonising with him :D
Yeah, thats cause athena is not emotionless without reason, she got her own myths before odyseus. He is another hero to help, another burden. Yes, the gods play with them as toys. But you would cry if your favourite toy broke, would you not?
Have you listened to My Goodbye? That run contrast shows up there too!
Jorge can say it's "Enlighten me" however many times he wants. I still hear it as "You lied to me"
Great job your a liar
The part where she talking about the magic boar is really cool it kinda reminds me of that one scene from the prince of Egypt.
YES!
2:32 Love how in practically every animatic has Athena leaving Odysseus hanging on that high five (Also- Odysseus high fiving himself xD)
Okay but at 0:56 when they're watching the beginning of the tapestry and remembering what started their journey together and for a moment they smile at each other. I'm crying
THAT WATER SCENE?! The one right after aswell with the tapestries, this is incredible
This!! Esp with the mirrored poses both being claustrophobic in a different way. In this vid, it's due to the framing, with Athena's pose being juuuuust cropped out causing it to feel like she's whispering the command in his ear. The very epitome of "gentle reminder(threat).
In "my goodbye", Athena's full body (upper torso, semantics) is hunching over Odysseus, a direct action to convey her condescension and disappointment towards his actions.
I personally see the differences in each pose as being reflective of Odysseus' view of Athena. More specifically, where the first pose is cropped, he's still in his "Athena is a friend". My Goodbye's mirrored pose is when Odysseus is disillusioned to their relationship and is fully seeing that Athena, a God, will never show him the empathy a friend would give his grief (and subsequent rash behavior).
THE LEG!!!!! It's the first time I see someone draw this song and reference to the scar Odysseus has on his leg bc of the fight with the boar!! The fact you even extended that detail to his leg giving out on him while he was talking to Athena later!!! And the fact Athena has the story registered in tapestry!!! And also this depicts maybe my favorite dynamic between them, with Athena being just as cheeky as him!!!
It's really cool to see the improvement since you started to animate to this musical, the angles and composition here are so neat
This might be my favorite depiction of Athena I’ve seen. The simpler and more cartoon like art style definitely helps, but her being extremely tall and slender, inhumanly so, shows she’s not a human but a god. Her face very clearly modeled off an Owl, and having an elegance to mirror not only her being a god but she’s the more formal and strategic side of war.
Also, when she takes off her hood and her helmet is underneath, it wouldn’t work at all like that, but she’s a god, so it doesn’t matter. Looks sick.
My favorite things about this video:
1. The "Don't disappoint me" scene being a reflection of the one scene in My Goodbye video.
2. Odysseus's faces at 1:08 and 1:56. They make me laugh so much.
3. The water scene when Odysseus gets seemingly dragged in by his own reflection.
4. Young Odysseus. Look at him. He's a little baby man. I love it.
This has to genuinely be one of the best warrior of the mind animatics I've ever seen
something i don't think i've seen others mention is that odysseus cleverly manages to divert attention from his own name to athena's, even though she never even said it
he immediately latched onto a way to change the subject of the convo from him to athena (rising to her challenge by saying her name then talking about her rep), and i imagine the theatrics with his lil stick also helped to distract her, evident by the fact that she then changes the topic to mentoring him
odysseus managed to trick the goddess of wisdom and tactics TWICE in one conversation, what a guy
Oh! Anyone else notice how the way Athena bends over to speak into Odysseus's ear from behind mirrors her movements in My Goodbye when she bends in and tells him what a waste of him he was?
I love Odysseus’ expressions during the whole video. And that water transition was WILD. Very well done
I think one of the things I like the most about this animatic is the palpable **love** that Autolycus, Anticlea, and Laeretes display for Odysseus. The carrying, that hug during the coronation. Really displays that there were a lot more hands sculpting that boy than just Athena's.
Out of all the warrior of the mind animatics I've watched, this one has the most detailed uhm cinematography shall i call it; it's like watching a movie. From beginning to end I'm so captivated by the angles, the expressions and the way of storytelling. And omg is that Eumeaus? See, you really put your heart into those characters and I can't help but be exited by the little details like Athena without her helmet or the my goodbye reference pose. Thank you for this!!
Autolycus and Laertes!
@@WolfyTheWitchthis is the song in How I found Epic the musical
dude the way you had athena staring at a tapestry, seeing as she's also a weaver and appreciates the arts... ugh the detail, it's amazing
She’s the goddess, right? Correct me if I’m wrong, my mythology is a little rusty :)
I LOVE how, even in “Human”form, Athena’s face looks owl-like
I'm glad this video exists, there's just something about the new version of the song that just doesn't hit the same 🥲
I love how you included that Odysseus got injured on the leg on the hunt for the boar.
I really like the fact that Athena can talk through Odysseus's reflection and can fly through window panes!! Also the glyphs just bring out a deeper(we see u did a lot of research!!) and impressive side of Greek mythology!! I love the fact that they're moving too, great job :D
Every one gather round Wolfy has made another amazing work of art let’s give them and the video all our love ❤❤❤
I will never be able to get over how creative and amazing your animatic choices and designs are lol
They can appear so simple, yet be so effective ^ ^
THE HIEROGLYPHS SCENE??? The water/reflection transition??? I also noticed the “foreshadow”/parallel of Athena overlooking Odysseus’s shoulder at the end from your “My Goodbye” animatic. All in all, this entire animatic is so outstanding. I can so clearly see it being full blown animated. I’m losing my mind at how well the quality of your animatics are/are becoming. WELL DONE 👏👏👏
I agree. The art style of the hieroglyphs really reminds me of zero to hero from Hercules.
How is it that basically every song in this whole musical is a banger
I love how the scene at 0:50 - 1:00 is in the artstyle of those vase drawing and it's so fluid!!
Also I think it's funny that Athena is using a cloak as a disguise, as if she isn't like 7 ft tall (and the way she lifts him-)
The mentor line is great and all the little touches -- the throne being bigger than Od a task he could never truly live up, the use of the wall just awesome
Gods, young Odysseus is so precious
I love your design of Athena, the large eyes are reminiscent of her owl
I think that the reflection between “if you’re looking for a mentor […] best of friends” and in my goodbye the lines “you’re not looking for a mentor and I’m not looking for a friend” Is heartbreaking
Oh I LOVE 0:55 when Athena and Odysseus give a lil smile to each other 😭
Also the choosing mural as the carrier of expression was marvellous. Great job Wolfy!!
The part 2:58 where Athena fly through the paintings and tapestries was such a talented idea😭😭 I'm crying for the last bit.
The detail of Odysseus parenting carrying him was so cute
Not me tearing up after his father names him king, they embrace, and Athena blesses his reign. This is Prince of Egypt-level.
I never would have imagined that i would be hyped about an old myth. That's what good visuals and creative storytelling can do, huh
Absolutely incredible as always Wolfy. Odysseus meeting Athena for the first time seriously warmed my heart T-T You made it just as playful as I imagined. Also that self high five was hilarious
Love how you designed Athena’s look after an owl!
Omg the young Odysseus is so cute. I laughed at him multiple times. Especially him giving himself a little high five. So adorable❤❤❤
Amazing ❤ Using traditional Ancient Greek art was a super cool touch when Athena told the story of how she spotted Odyssesus' potential. And lol young Odyssesus high-fiving hinself was adorable 😂
I like how the narrative of this song takes place after he has killed the boar. Most animatics I have seen have killing the boar be the central focus of the scene.
Everything about this is so perfect 😭 Odysseus' reflection not quite being him as Athena says he's changing, the little smile they share when she says only the best could kill her boar 🥹, the fact that you included the scar story and that he stumbled afterwards, her amused face when he says he was bluffing, her refusal to high five him so he high fives himself askjslzl, the owl tapestry over his throne... This is so so good.
1:07 Yo, is that goddamn Autolycus? Because if he is I love the research that went into this, including the leg wound on Odysseus.
Baby Odysseus is so cute, he has not idea he will propose an oath that indirectly contribute to the Trojan war, have to fulfill his godsdamn oath that he couldn't get out of by pretending to go insane, spend like 10 years there, then another 10 years in a series of boats just to get back home
The detail of his father having prominent teeth is a neat detail ,
Odysseus grandfather name was HeWolf (literary what werewolf means)
Wasn’t his grandfather’s name Autolycus, who was a master thief?
@@MildlyPerturbed Yep .
When Odysseus was young, he was bright and confident. But overtime as he became an adult and a king, he learnt responsibility which made him less confident and Athena is disappointed...
That was awesome. Major prince of egypt vibes from the use of the ancient greek fresco at 0:30 !
I've never imagined the visuals for this song this way, but this is too cute, young Odysseus is bringing the smile to my face 🥹
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. I can't even begin to explain everything I loved about it. The parallels between Odysseus in all the different stages of his life are incredible, and I loved the scene at the end where Odysseus was looking at his relfection. Athena going "don't dissapoint me" was CHILLING. incredible job as always
I don't feel like I've seen it anywhere, but I LOVE Athena's "reveal" when young Odysseus figures her out. It's such a cool transition from hooded woman to badass helmeted goddess
Omg I love your Autolycus and Laertes designs! As well as the blood running down Ody’s leg from the gash he got from the boar!
That’s going to leave a nasty scar, that totally won’t come back later in the plot haha!
I'm screaming over grandpa Autolycus taking care of Ody bxhdjdngnfj this is so sweet TT
And then Anticlea and Laertes welcome them back 🥺
Laertes crowning Ody and then they huuuug
😭😭😭❤️
Also, I love the tapestry(?) of Athena's past (at least that's what I assume it's showing, that particular part being about Odysseus)
Kid Ody with his cool new mentor 🥲 So young. So happy...
That running animation at the beginning tho🤌
Another masterpiece from you, as always ❤
It's such a small scene but when Athena takes off her hood and her helmet forms?? Obsessed ❤❤
Wolfy, omg- this is amazing, the replica of the Ancient Greek art?! That was phenomenal, the scene of the reflection on the water, the entire mind scape?! The way little Odysseus was filled with hope? And how he is now tired?! Not recognising himself neither in the painting nor his reflection? ATHENA?! ATHENA WITH LITTLE ODYSSEUS?! THIS IS BEAUTIFUL-
I love how Laertes looks like an older, broader Odysseus, and in later animatics Telemachus looks like a leaner Odysseus.
okay okay okay but at 3:21 when she leans over his shoulder to say "Don't disappoint me" she later parallels that moment in "My Goodbye" when she says "I mistook you for a General, what a waste of effort spent", effectively calling him a disappointment okay I'm normal about this musical I prommy
There’s something endearing about Autolycus forgetting to hold back his demigod strength as he pats his grandson on the back.
I dont know if it was intentional but Odysseus "protecting" his name from the get go nicely parallels protecting his name against the cyclops and I love it nonetheless!
this animatic is so freaking good and him as a boy meeting athena is the cutest thing
THIS SONG IS STILL SO FIREEE OMGGG
I love how you made Athena so much. She looks almost owl like and this animation just tells you so much about her personality. She can be friendly when she wants to but stern aswell. She also just seemed happier at the beginning
“Have you forgotten to turn off your heart?” Big feels…
I like how your version of young Odysseus is more playfully and is full of that child like engery. It gives us a little glimpse of his childhood and he is like as a young boy. Instead of just him being a bit cocky that I usually see a lot. He even give himself a high five when Athena refuse to do so XD amazing work as ever!
This is so cool, I love your animatics and storytelling!
I can't stop looking at 0:52. The way you so accurately depicted black figure pottery art (while still keeping it RUclips friendly lol) is beautiful. Love it!
I was too busy grooving to remember the start and then the end I was like “oh yeah he is having a identity crisis or sum”
Whats really awesome about your art here is how unhuman i feel Athena looks despite being human shaped. Her eyes being empty/full is a part of that but how you drew her and the movement make her seem so different. Your whole video great showcase of skill because i homestly feel like im watching a full 24/30 frame animation. The art is drawn in such a way that the movement are expressed and my imagination fill in whats left
I love how the frame at 3:22 works as a call back/pararell to your "My goodbye" animatic. Here, Athena says to Odysseus "Don't desapoint me". Meanwhile that same frame in "My goodbye" is when she got became dissapointed of him, "What a waste of effort spend" (1:54)
Love the fact you went to the art style on early pottery to show the flashback before jumping inside of the memory. So creative!
And that owl through the tapestries to the back of the throne tho?? TASTY
Okay, I love the Greek art scene(0:50).
May have already commented and forgotten but holy crap this is amazing! You have their personalities down to the detail, between cocky teenage odysseus to nervous adult odysseus, all the way to threatening athena to amused athena. not to mention the way you animated the wall paintings is amazing
Athena leaning over Odyssius's shoulder to remind him, reflecting that sceje in My Goodbye....chef's KISS
THE CONTRAST BETWEEN ALL THE ENERGY AND HOPE HE HAD AT THE BEGINNING WITH ATHENA WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER TO HOW BLEAK HE IS IN THE CURRENT TIME, I’M SO. AHHHHH- WONDERFUL WORK AS ALWAYS WOLFY?! :)
there was a lot of frames in this. I guess you could say its an "Epic" animation cuz dang its good
I love this!! Your animatics are so good!! I love the expressions you make!! Like right here! 2:02 She looks so proud and tickled!!
And then she pulls off her cloak and its so smooth! 2:20
Plus both of them here is so cute! Best friends even if they don't know it! 3:39
Oh my gosh! BABY ODY!!! Autolycus being a proud granddad who then carries injured grandson home??? And the hug between Laertes and Ody!!! 😭And Athena using tapestries as she's the goddes of weaving!! I love it so much!! This is incredibel thank you!
Athena and Odysseus's friendship evolution hits harder after wisdom saga TwT
We've waited for so long..now it's finaply here! Another great animatic, Wolfy!!
Dear lord. this animatic is pure genius. So complex in its own simplicity, and the storytelling is flawless, just flawless. Hands down the best WotM out there, congratz! :D
I love how story-rich and nuanced your interpretations of scenes are. They make so much sense and hit right in the heart.
Not apart of this fandom but I adore your art and the song :)
The scenes with the murals and tapestries were super cool. I haven’t read the odyssey so it's cool seeing flashes of Odysseus growing up. All the characters are so expressive. Teen Odysseus is adorable.
Odysseus just looks dead inside at the end. Whatever friendship he used to share with Athena isnt the same anymore.
I find it amazing how you make these amazing epic musical animatics now, and i can go on your page and watch them, and then i can scroll down and watch dsmp animatics as well. You are truly one of my favorite beings of all time
1:47 is my everything
This is incredible ❤ you always bring so much life to Epics songs! I really hope you get the chance to work on a full movie someday
Holy CRAP! I had to pause this and rewatch to catalog all of the things that are incredible! I don’t know how to articulate this, but I’ll try: your vision (or perspective? Style?) is incredible! I love the way you don’t just animate a scene that we’re looking at from a fixed distance. We are IN it! And flying and zooming around and then we’re in the painting and then the painting is on a wall and we’re in front of it and dear GOD the foreshortening (I think is the term?) on that wall when we’re right next to it is INCREDIBLE!! And the way we fell through the water at the beginning into another dimension and then the mural came to life as a memory! Just wow. Also HOW do you manage to make Athena’s face so expressive when she has no pupils and literally two lines for a mouth?!? I think your work is my favorite Epic animatic I’ve seen. Ever. Like if Epic becomes a movie, I HOPE they contact you and build the sequence for this song around what you’ve designed. It’s THAT good. WELL DONE!!!!
This is amazing! I love how much of a sassy little bastard you made young Odysseus.