That sequence of flash moving at lightning speed to clear all the debris from above the hostages in ZSJL is incredible. Imagine choosing to remove that from the film, even though it’s less than 10 seconds. Baffling
Probably because it’s an inconsistent example of him being overpowered when you have contradicting examples where he’s clumsy and shouts “NO” at the last piece of falling debris instead of using his speed to deal with it as well.
Then there’s the fact that he serves as morale booster to the hostages fleeing via the staircase instead of actually using his speed to help them get out quicker or maybe helping the more vulnerable members of the League fight Steppenwolf (like Batman).
I believe they should have shown that he needs limit himself a bit since he is on a fixed calorie budget similar to how spiderman is limited in the number of webs
@@pizzatime4204 Then why could he do it in other adaptations and when was this actually established in Snyder’s cut? I’m pretty sure he did it in the theatrical cut, didn’t he?
I think it’s funny how Adam Brody and DJ Cotrona who almost played the Flash and Superman in Justice League Mortal would later go on to play Freddy and Pedro adult superhero form in Shazam, makes me wonder if that was intentional.
A lot of Goyer's script was used in the CW Flash tv show. Albeit not a fully copy and paste one. Some instances are -- both Goyer's script and CW's The Flash Season One/Five established that there was a previous timeline where Barry's parents were alive and him and Iris were married and had twins.
It's very frustrating how we were so close to getting an amazing flash film on multiple occassions (with Wally as the main flash who is arguable the best flash). It's a shame because a more grounded approach really does fit the flash and his stories in the comics and it's baffling that DC cannot see that. Of course their stubborn vision may come at the cost of the upcoming flash film to meander given to everyone's confusion of having a flash film that feels more focused on characters that aren't the flash.
Check out unseen 64 they cover the cancelled flash game by bottle rocket. They also did a cancelled superman by factor 5. I can send the links if you want.
The directors and writers who took over The Flash movie after all those years are interested in making a movie about Flash, but WB just want to use his name to make a crossover movie with several Batman. That's why we didn't have a Flash movie back in the 2000s.
It would be best if you did a continuation of this video essay with the upcoming almost-finished movie. Cover the production issues and the controversies of it's leading actor.
I was excited for the Flash film, but Ezra Miller just completely killed my hype after his horrendous behavior inside and outside production. Hoping in the future we get another Flash film with a much better actor.
You say this as if we got the film. I am still not holding my breath for this. We have been seeing the trailer for FLASH for 3 years now and they can't put the movie out yet. Warner Bros cancelled a whole Batgirl film ....so I don't put it beyond them to do something as reckless as to never release Ezra's flash film
Instead of having a flash movie that would be inspired by the tone of a Sam Rami spiderman film, Warner bros wanted cameo the movie staring the flash 😐, great.
Here after The Flash Trailer And dang The Trailer Of The Flash Movie actually Looks Good anyway Those Different Decades Of Concept Seem to be interesting
If this version of The Flash film if this was set in the same universe as Green Lantern. I think other actors who should play the flash in the same universe as Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern. My choice is Brenton Thwaites or Liam Hemsworth as the title role.
Okay I hace a theory and idk how true it can be but I think that WB who owns the classic heros like superman batman flash and wonder woman now are doubtful of this characters cause of things like the boys or invincible becoming so popular and challenging the idea of classic heros I mean you think a speedster hero and most think of a train running through a person not flash being a good guy, you think laser eyes you think homelander cutting through someone not superman saving someone Generally the idea of evil superheros heros has become more popular so for dc to try and sell the idea of a superhero that genuinely is just a good person becomes a hard sell But that's just my theory
Except Invincible doesn't do any of the "evil superheroes" stuff like The Boys do. Sure, it's violent, but unlike The Boys, the heroes in Invicible are genuinely good people and heroes.
it's funny because he actually championed for a flash script that was way better than "flash point". He actually seemed to have somewhat of a right idea of how a flash story should be.
I think the CW series was developed independently of the films. The only connections they share is that Greg Berlanti and the creative team that worked on the cancelled 2011 film went on to that show. I believe certain elements from the script were also borrowed for the show.
True but I wanted this to just be about the flash movie. The character has a pretty complicated history when it comes to television as well so I didn’t want to researching about that on top of the complicated film history.
man birds of prey sucked!!! I get the feeling that wb needs every dc movie they make to be the best that was ever made, like theres hella pressure to make an amazing flash movie when it should be allowed to have some haters or something.
DCEU/Snyderverse Cast Ben Affleck As Batman/Bruce Wayne Henry Cavill As Superman/Clark Kent Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman/Diana Prince Harry Lennox as Martian Manhunter Jason Momoa as Aquaman Gemma Arterton as Hawkgirl/ Shayara Hall Ryan Gosling as The Flash/ Barry Allen Jensen Ackles as Green Lantern/ Hal jordan Charlie Hunnam as Green Arrow Jurnee Smollett as Black Canary Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Hunteress/ Helena Rosa Bertinelli Sam Worthington as Captain Atom William Levy as Booster Gold Dua Lipa as Zatanna Pirece Brosnan as Dr. Fate/Kent nelson Stephen Lang as Wildcat/Ted Grant Matt Lanter as Deadman/Boston Brando Josh Duhmael as Dr. Midnite/Charles MicNider Mahershala Ali as Black Lightning Emilia Clarke as Mera Kate Mara as Powergirl/Karren Starr Triple H as Metamorpho/Rex Mason Rami Malek as Red Tornado/John Ulthoon Jhene Akio as Vixen Diane Guerrero as Fire Rosalia as Ice Zachary Levi as Shazam/Billy Batson The Perfect DCEU/Snyderverse plans 1. bring Back Zack Snyder, and Fire James Gunn for ruining the Snyderverse 2. Give Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, and Gal Gadot another Chances as Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman 3. Give Dua Lipa a Chance to Play as Zatanna in Solo Film 4. DC should casts Charlie hunnam as Green Arrow, Sam Worthington as Captain Atom, Dua Lipa as Zatanna, Jhene Akio as Vixen, Mahershala ali as Black Lightning, Oscar Issac as the Question, Ava Michelle as Supergirl/ Kara Danvers, Jensen Ackles as Hal Jordan, Ariana Grande as Starfire, Nick Robinson as Beast Boy, Millie Bobby Brown as Raven, Chris Evans as Booster Gold, Stephen Lang as WildCat/Ted Grant, Josh Duhamel as Dr. Midnite/ Charles MicNider, And Rami Malek as Red Tornado 4. replace Jessie Eissenberg with Michael Fassbender, Corey Stoll or Billy Zane as Lex Luthor 5. Let Zack Snyder, Sam Raimi, and Ben Affleck make HBO max Batman Film/ TV Series with Ghassan Massoud as Ra’s Al Ghul 6. Replace Joe Maganello with Sean Bean, Clancy Brown, or Mel Gibson for a Older Deathstroke 7. Give Emila Clarke the Role of Mera in Aquaman 2 8. Cast Ryan Gosling as The Flash/ Barry Allen 9. Give James Cameron, Denis Villaneva, Taikia Waiti a Opportunities for A DC Solo Film 10. Live-Action Justice League Vs Sucide Squad Movie 11. Live-Action Teen Titans Movie with Jon Watts as film Director 12. Cast Roman Reigns as Lobo 13. Green Arrow Solo Film with Charlie Hunnam As Green Arrow, and Viggo Mortensen as Count Vertigo 14. Birds Of Prey 2 must Happen with Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Huntress, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Aubrey Plaza as Catwoman, and Olivia Wilde as Poison Ivy 15. A Justice League Dark Movie Must Happen with Dan Stevens as John Constantine, Ron Pearlman as Swamp Thing, Matt Lanter as Deadman, Dua Lipa as Zatanna, And Pirece Brosnan as Doctor Fate with Gulliermo del Toro as Director, james Wan and Zack Snyder as Producers 16. A Black Lightning Solo Film with Ryan Coogler as Director, and Mahershala Ali as Black Lightining/ Jefferson Pierce 17. a Live-Action Legion of Superheroes Film with Jon Watts as Director 18. Atom Smasher Standalone Movie with Jon Watts As Director 19. a Green Lantern movie with Taikia Waitti as Director 20. Booster Gold Standalone film with William Levy as Booster Gold, with Zack Snyder as Producer, and Denis Villieneve as Director 21. Cast Bill hader as Plastic Man 22. Cast Ralph Fiennes as Brainiac 23. Captain Atom standalone Film With Denis Vilieneve as Director, Sam Worthington as Captain Atom and Dacre Mongomrety as Major Force 24. Cast Madd Mikelsen as Gentleman Ghost 25. Cast Tyrese Gibson as Steel, and Morris Chesnutt as Mr Terrfifc
That sequence of flash moving at lightning speed to clear all the debris from above the hostages in ZSJL is incredible. Imagine choosing to remove that from the film, even though it’s less than 10 seconds. Baffling
Probably because it’s an inconsistent example of him being overpowered when you have contradicting examples where he’s clumsy and shouts “NO” at the last piece of falling debris instead of using his speed to deal with it as well.
Then there’s the fact that he serves as morale booster to the hostages fleeing via the staircase instead of actually using his speed to help them get out quicker or maybe helping the more vulnerable members of the League fight Steppenwolf (like Batman).
I believe they should have shown that he needs limit himself a bit since he is on a fixed calorie budget similar to how spiderman is limited in the number of webs
@@StopCallingMeShirley1180 he couldn't move then because his speed would harm them
@@pizzatime4204 Then why could he do it in other adaptations and when was this actually established in Snyder’s cut? I’m pretty sure he did it in the theatrical cut, didn’t he?
"Painfully slow development" is the BEST description.
Kinda ironic that the fastest man alive has a slow production for movies
The Same can be said For Sonic
@@the3rdguy416it's always us the fastest that get the slowest treatment
I've been saying it for years:
Rick Famiuya would've made the BEST Flash movie out of every possible creative mind
Right. I was really excited for what he had in store. Its a shame the tone of his film didn’t match up with what WB wanted.
Did he reveal the script what's going to be the story of that film
The Flash should've had several movies on par with Spider-Man honestly. It wouldn't be hard
I think it’s funny how Adam Brody and DJ Cotrona who almost played the Flash and Superman in Justice League Mortal would later go on to play Freddy and Pedro adult superhero form in Shazam, makes me wonder if that was intentional.
I can't believe there hasn't been a movie about The Scarlet Speedster ever
Yeah, its like a certain studio was holding the character back
and the first movie is going to start with ezra miller:/
@EdittZz yeah that's true
Right?
His origins would be perfect for a Three act Structure, and no, I don’t mean a Flash Point Adaptation, God Knows we’ve had too many
What a great video. It's honestly just shocking that a movie about one of DC's biggest and most beloved characters took so long to get made.
I love how my earliest flash memory is from the kid dressed up as the character in daddy daycare 😂
Honestly I could see Ryan Reynolds’s as Wally West
Even though I’m not a huge Goyer fan, his Flash script sounded great
Oh really, can you give some details
@@viciousbane569 Rinzler Productions did a whole video on it
A lot of Goyer's script was used in the CW Flash tv show. Albeit not a fully copy and paste one. Some instances are -- both Goyer's script and CW's The Flash Season One/Five established that there was a previous timeline where Barry's parents were alive and him and Iris were married and had twins.
@@dynaguy3 yeah I prefer this than what we are getting
@@srstriker6420 well what are we getting exactly?
Video Idea: The Unused Concepts of the MCU
i love it when you post new video WarpingFist!
Thank you. I love it when you comment
@@WarpingFist I will! Love your videos. Hope you will do more SnyderVerse and spider man videos.
It's very frustrating how we were so close to getting an amazing flash film on multiple occassions (with Wally as the main flash who is arguable the best flash). It's a shame because a more grounded approach really does fit the flash and his stories in the comics and it's baffling that DC cannot see that. Of course their stubborn vision may come at the cost of the upcoming flash film to meander given to everyone's confusion of having a flash film that feels more focused on characters that aren't the flash.
I love tuning in and routinely see improved quality 🙏🏻 keep it up
Hope you do a video on the cancelled early 2000s flash game
Check out unseen 64 they cover the cancelled flash game by bottle rocket. They also did a cancelled superman by factor 5. I can send the links if you want.
Love your videos bro
keep up the fantastic work
So, The flash film started from 80s, but take 43 years to come to life, just to get Michael Keaton as flashpoint Batman.?
Basically yeah
yes... and?
The directors and writers who took over The Flash movie after all those years are interested in making a movie about Flash, but WB just want to use his name to make a crossover movie with several Batman. That's why we didn't have a Flash movie back in the 2000s.
It would be best if you did a continuation of this video essay with the upcoming almost-finished movie. Cover the production issues and the controversies of it's leading actor.
I was excited for the Flash film, but Ezra Miller just completely killed my hype after his horrendous behavior inside and outside production. Hoping in the future we get another Flash film with a much better actor.
You say this as if we got the film.
I am still not holding my breath for this. We have been seeing the trailer for FLASH for 3 years now and they can't put the movie out yet.
Warner Bros cancelled a whole Batgirl film ....so I don't put it beyond them to do something as reckless as to never release Ezra's flash film
veemon9280 this aged like milk lmao
The Goyer movies sounds perfect. Exactly how a flash movie should be
Instead of having a flash movie that would be inspired by the tone of a Sam Rami spiderman film, Warner bros wanted cameo the movie staring the flash 😐, great.
Flash is one of the best characters ever. I just want a good Flash movie. Is that to much to ask.
I feel as though they could've made an animated flash movie in the dcau
Wonderful as always brother. Really liked the cw series for the 1st 4 seasons, don't like Ezra but it is what it is.
The flash tv show with 9 seasons is coming to an end before the flash movie releases, let that sink in.
WE COULD'VE HAD A MARC WEBB FLASH FILM????
side note, it's JEPH Loeb not "Jeff Loeb" as listed. Good video thou.
I think most Cancelled DC Movies involve creative Differences.
Here after The Flash Trailer And dang The Trailer Of The Flash Movie actually Looks Good anyway Those Different Decades Of Concept Seem to be interesting
If this version of The Flash film if this was set in the same universe as Green Lantern. I think other actors who should play the flash in the same universe as Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern. My choice is Brenton Thwaites or Liam Hemsworth as the title role.
You should do one on the cancelled flash game
5:42 What is the background music?
I hate how in dceu they made the flash keep tripping over thing while he run
Okay I hace a theory and idk how true it can be but I think that WB who owns the classic heros like superman batman flash and wonder woman now are doubtful of this characters cause of things like the boys or invincible becoming so popular and challenging the idea of classic heros I mean you think a speedster hero and most think of a train running through a person not flash being a good guy, you think laser eyes you think homelander cutting through someone not superman saving someone
Generally the idea of evil superheros heros has become more popular so for dc to try and sell the idea of a superhero that genuinely is just a good person becomes a hard sell
But that's just my theory
Evil superman stories have been around for decades bro
Except Invincible doesn't do any of the "evil superheroes" stuff like The Boys do. Sure, it's violent, but unlike The Boys, the heroes in Invicible are genuinely good people and heroes.
I noticed the custom progress bar at the bottom of the video seemed to scroll way too fast
Ironic, still neat.
I liked flash point animated movie but only problem was it was not flash centric
Can you make JL Mortal vídeo in the near future
Was already planning one
They took Matthew Vaugn and Robert Zemmeckis off of their film and they wonder why their cinematic universe is a joke
both their recent works have been atrocious
Can you make a full video on justice league mortal?
Oh yeah, definitely.
Question are you going to do history of dceu and it's downfall
I have plans to do that in the near future
Hey can you make a video on spiderman web of shadow and it’s sequel cancellation
the notification was very fast
Yeah, you commented the minute I uploaded which kind of surprised me
@@WarpingFist yes, the notification rang 23 seconds after the video was posted
Flash is cool
True
im so fucking hyped for this movie
Why?
@@liampatrick3110 The story, 2 Flash's, (maybe more)... Supergirl and 2 Batman's!
@@cruzadoencapuzado 🤣🤣🤣
@@liampatrick3110 ? (Zod and Faora will be in that movie too)!
Do mcn iron man 1,2 and 3 concept art.
And then Erza miller fucked it all up
Yup and must be fired
it's funny because he actually championed for a flash script that was way better than "flash point". He actually seemed to have somewhat of a right idea of how a flash story should be.
Please do a video on justice league mortal
crazy
If I was in charge at WB I would have binned The Flash film a long time ago not wait 40+ years to actually get the film done.
What about the history of cw flash series..?
I think the CW series was developed independently of the films. The only connections they share is that Greg Berlanti and the creative team that worked on the cancelled 2011 film went on to that show. I believe certain elements from the script were also borrowed for the show.
@@WarpingFist Ohh, but you should have mentioned that in the video..
True but I wanted this to just be about the flash movie. The character has a pretty complicated history when it comes to television as well so I didn’t want to researching about that on top of the complicated film history.
@@WarpingFist ohh, I'm sorry I didn't realise how difficult your work is..
@@blitzwing_4k No need to apologize, your comment wasn't rude or anything so you don't have to worry.
man birds of prey sucked!!! I get the feeling that wb needs every dc movie they make to be the best that was ever made, like theres hella pressure to make an amazing flash movie when it should be allowed to have some haters or something.
0:22 0/10 not accurate, should be slower
hilarious that after all that we got what is in my opinion the worst superhero movie ever made
DCEU/Snyderverse Cast
Ben Affleck As Batman/Bruce Wayne
Henry Cavill As Superman/Clark Kent
Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman/Diana Prince
Harry Lennox as Martian Manhunter
Jason Momoa as Aquaman
Gemma Arterton as Hawkgirl/ Shayara Hall
Ryan Gosling as The Flash/ Barry Allen
Jensen Ackles as Green Lantern/ Hal jordan
Charlie Hunnam as Green Arrow
Jurnee Smollett as Black Canary
Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Hunteress/ Helena Rosa Bertinelli
Sam Worthington as Captain Atom
William Levy as Booster Gold
Dua Lipa as Zatanna
Pirece Brosnan as Dr. Fate/Kent nelson
Stephen Lang as Wildcat/Ted Grant
Matt Lanter as Deadman/Boston Brando
Josh Duhmael as Dr. Midnite/Charles MicNider
Mahershala Ali as Black Lightning
Emilia Clarke as Mera
Kate Mara as Powergirl/Karren Starr
Triple H as Metamorpho/Rex Mason
Rami Malek as Red Tornado/John Ulthoon
Jhene Akio as Vixen
Diane Guerrero as Fire
Rosalia as Ice
Zachary Levi as Shazam/Billy Batson
The Perfect DCEU/Snyderverse plans
1. bring Back Zack Snyder, and Fire James Gunn for ruining the Snyderverse
2. Give Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, and Gal Gadot another Chances as Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman
3. Give Dua Lipa a Chance to Play as Zatanna in Solo Film
4. DC should casts Charlie hunnam as Green Arrow, Sam Worthington as Captain Atom, Dua Lipa as Zatanna, Jhene Akio as Vixen, Mahershala ali as Black Lightning, Oscar Issac as the Question, Ava Michelle as Supergirl/ Kara Danvers, Jensen Ackles as Hal Jordan, Ariana Grande as Starfire, Nick Robinson as Beast Boy, Millie Bobby Brown as Raven, Chris Evans as Booster Gold, Stephen Lang as WildCat/Ted Grant, Josh Duhamel as Dr. Midnite/ Charles MicNider, And Rami Malek as Red Tornado
4. replace Jessie Eissenberg with Michael Fassbender, Corey Stoll or Billy Zane as Lex Luthor
5. Let Zack Snyder, Sam Raimi, and Ben Affleck make HBO max Batman Film/ TV Series with Ghassan Massoud as Ra’s Al Ghul
6. Replace Joe Maganello with Sean Bean, Clancy Brown, or Mel Gibson for a Older Deathstroke
7. Give Emila Clarke the Role of Mera in Aquaman 2
8. Cast Ryan Gosling as The Flash/ Barry Allen
9. Give James Cameron, Denis Villaneva, Taikia Waiti a Opportunities for A DC Solo Film
10. Live-Action Justice League Vs Sucide Squad Movie
11. Live-Action Teen Titans Movie with Jon Watts as film Director
12. Cast Roman Reigns as Lobo
13. Green Arrow Solo Film with Charlie Hunnam As Green Arrow, and Viggo Mortensen as Count Vertigo
14. Birds Of Prey 2 must Happen with Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Huntress, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Aubrey Plaza as Catwoman, and Olivia Wilde as Poison Ivy
15. A Justice League Dark Movie Must Happen with Dan Stevens as John Constantine, Ron Pearlman as Swamp Thing, Matt Lanter as Deadman, Dua Lipa as Zatanna, And Pirece Brosnan as Doctor Fate with Gulliermo del Toro as Director, james Wan and Zack Snyder as Producers
16. A Black Lightning Solo Film with Ryan Coogler as Director, and Mahershala Ali as Black Lightining/ Jefferson Pierce
17. a Live-Action Legion of Superheroes Film with Jon Watts as Director
18. Atom Smasher Standalone Movie with Jon Watts As Director
19. a Green Lantern movie with Taikia Waitti as Director
20. Booster Gold Standalone film with William Levy as Booster Gold, with Zack Snyder as Producer, and Denis Villieneve as Director
21. Cast Bill hader as Plastic Man
22. Cast Ralph Fiennes as Brainiac
23. Captain Atom standalone Film With Denis Vilieneve as Director, Sam Worthington as Captain Atom and Dacre Mongomrety as Major Force
24. Cast Madd Mikelsen as Gentleman Ghost
25. Cast Tyrese Gibson as Steel, and Morris Chesnutt as Mr Terrfifc
Cope
@@БогданКрименюк it was My Idea To Save The DCEU/ The Snyderverse
Warner Bros. Sucks
Ezra miller uses they/them pronouns, not he/him