Mullvad and Tor Linked Up to Make a Web Browser
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this video I give my first impressions of the Mullvad browser
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@Mental Outlaw I think you should make a video about goguardian because it is a spyware and it spys on students on there school chromebooks and teachers can see tbere screen look through there camera record there microphone and see what your typing and they can see everything with goguardian like it should be illegal it is an invasion of our privacy
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You should definitely make a browser tier list and a search engine tier list
Yes
1. Ungoogled chromium
1. Presearch
Here you go
It would be VERY biased because of BingGPT
+ dark web search engine
@@milesfarber what's BingGPT?
Even if it's not quite ready to compete with long-standing alternatives, the fact that more privacy-focused browsers are being developed is an automatic win in my book.
>he doesn’t know about the xss backdoor or the private key exploit built into mullvad API
@@indecipherabl3 Can you please provide information on this? Link or something.
@@indecipherabl3 glowie
@@indecipherabl3xss back door?
@@indecipherabl3 if you made this up that would actually be so funny
Mullvad supports split tunneling so you can choose what browsers or programs you want to go through the VPN and which ones not to.
Based
yea this is easily done when using the mullvad app
On Linux you have to launch every app that is supposed to be excluded from using the VPN tunnel as "mullvad-exclude " or from the GUI split tunneling menu (every time!). If you only want the browser to use the tunnel that would be quite annoying.
wondering why he did not do any research lmao
@@mondgrille I fucking hate this. I just want qBittorrent and occasionally a browser to use the VPN :(
Im surprised tor is so humble as to let mullvad take the entire name of the browser
tor is funded by the us government, why would they care about marketing
I think tor being in the name would be worse
"I knew her name rhymed with something... Mulva??"
@@iridium8341 why?
@@r0e404 why?
I wonder how long it's gonna be before the Mullvad founders have a "roundtable discussion about combatting antisemitism on the internet" with Jonathan Greenblatt
They''ll go thru "gamers are toxic" then "won't someone think of the children" then "the patriarchy is oppressing the wamens" to "everyone hates the rainbows" rinse and repeat.
true
@@muhdiversity7409 classic 👌
What a fucking weird ass comment to type, is there something you need to admit?
guys have you tried being a bit more optimistic? It's literally a browser, the market is full of them. If it doesn't work nobody loses anything because you can simply not switch. If it does however then there's something to be gained by everyone. I really don't see the point of being outraged/concerned for something that hasn't even happened yet
i'm loving it! a private "the crowd" browser with JS blocking, ublock out of the box and comfortable connection speed, and no captcha and blacklist hell
Anything that makes something a pain in the ass for glowies, I’m down for.
Amen 🎉🎉
every time baby!
That pfp really puts a bow on your comment, just perfect.
You aren't slowing us down one bit, wagey. Keep thinking cringe like this will stop us. ;-)
@@MrSilk13642 nice roleplay.
As soon as I heard the news of Mullvad making a browser I thought "I wonder if Mental Outlaw has already made a video about this"
I made-a dis-a doughnut just for you Don Homer.🍩
@@daedalus_00 mmm... grazie.
Fun fact: Mullvad is Swedish for ”Mole” (the animal), and is the company’s mascot
moles are good at tunneling
I trust Swedes
@@fh9123 didn't they just join nato?
@@matheusfaria7230 no we didnt, Finland did
@@matheusfaria7230 we got denied thankfully
I think Mullvad Browser "does" the font cache, thus it can be used for tracking in that area.
So I just checked and they don’t, they use a font library from an inbuilt database to match the most similar to what the page requests and serve you that.
@@thomascrabtree So in other words, the font cache works but serves a local file nonetheless, so that the privacytests font cache result is a false positive, since the function is not causing any privacy issues despite being available.
For the tracking query test. All you need to do is feed ublock a link to its filter.
Explain more
@@SkegAudio interesting
@@terryperez7615 wait is my comment deleted?
@@SkegAudio can u post it again?
@@Jojo-lg5jm Yeah, I'll once I get home.
Personally, I like the concept of Mullvad Browser and like the idea of a Brave competitor, but want to see it get more time in the oven. As it stands right now, it's inferior to both Brave and LibreWolf, but has the potential to be better than both in every way. I just hope they don't make themselves into a niche browser but rather become something that can be used by anybody.
Personally, I separate my browsers in three tiers: privacy respecting but very usable (Brave), less usable but even more private (Arkenfox/LibreWolf, currently Mullvad seems to be trying to get in here) and finally Tor/Whonix.
i hope they just yoink all good features of other browsers into the ultimate gigachad browser,
I love using Brave mainly because of the claim that it prevents ad-trackers and ads.
@@anon-ud9mq browser extensions gg ez
@@anon-ud9mq nextdns and librewolf with adblocker works good for me
@@realchiknuggets I’m on iOS lmao
HOLY SHIIIT MEGA BASED!!! I'M COOOMING!!! I won't trust it unless it's open source or audited. Also it's about time Mullvad is audited again.
Who you trusting?
@@antimattercarp2720 I guess he doesnt have anything installed
Its open source
Do you trust open source malware too? Just wondering for market research purposes.
@@antimattercarp2720 themselves
Mullvad browser is to Firefox like Brave is to Chromium. Both fill the niche of maximum privacy while still being user-friendly, but are based on entirely different browsers.
Been using the browser for a week now it's very good
Mullvad has been awesome for many years - I'm also very happy with them
Let's goooooo... I love mullvad 😮🎉🎉🎉 this is revolutionary
Hey Kenny,
You stated that Mullvad Browser is made in association with Tor Project, or Tor Browser. Since Tor Browser is made on Gecko, so is Mullvad Browser, and Gecko is the architecture of Mozilla Firefox. So, Mullvad Browser is literally a yet another Firefox Browser. Hope this information is convincing.
Regards,
*_~Ricky_*
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Epic. But has anyone noticed Mullvad VPN speeds being slow lately?
the hug of death :(
yep, been having trouble with connections, specifically the connection it takes a long time to find a stable server to connect to I have to manually change server to try find a good one.
I’ve had no problems at all with their servers. Could be the specific location you’re trying to reach? Who knows.
Probably as a result of them getting more popular
@@papadane6807 It happens with majority of websites and different VPN locations, the internet becomes fast again when I turn it off
Ever since I've heard of this bill, I've been strongly considering building a portable cyberdeck. If the bill passes I would definitely not trust a VPN alone to keep me hidden. I could easily take the cyberdeck across town and do whatever I need over there and then come back home.
I know, I know just because you’re not doing anything bad doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take your privacy seriously but damn shawty what the hell you doing on the internet that you have to go across town? That just seems a bit excessive imhsapo
@@mutestingray Sailing the high seas isn't exactly something I'd want to be traced back to me
Cyberdeck? Just shoot straight and never trust a corp, choomba. And stay safe in the Combat Zone.
@@Nexalian_Gamer Hmm your not a Europoor no one cares in America.
@@klwthe3rdIt's the thing that David had installed on his back in Cyberpunk Edgerunners
I love their VPN mainly because they use an account pin as the only method of sign in, also you can mail cash
YOU CANT MAIL MONEY REEEEE
Glowies seething
Been using it the past 2 days. It’s really nice.
Im impressed you didn't try to affiliate the mulvad link. Good on you.
I think to really have true security and privacy, we'd need to have an entirely new internet with a new standard. Just as a point of contention, I think the browser shouldn't report the height of the canvas or screen, and the width should be adjusted to account for a standard defined scroll bar so that everyone who has the same resolution but changes the scroll bar width would be reported as the same width.
Mullvad supports split tunneling on grapheneos, they should be able to add that to this.
I think this will enlarge the target on Mullvad's back even more, especially if it becomes widespread. The glowies are surely not going to leave Mullvad alone forever.
Well know when Mullvad is compromised when they stop accepting anonymous cryptocurrency like Monero as payment and force you to make an account, which they don’t at the moment. No accounts = no way to track subscribers.
> implying this browser isn't a honeypot
@@BlackBallBouncer you believe it is? I don't know nothing about nothing so I'm doing all the learning I can!
@@ToodleNoodle it could be. I believe Sweden, where Mullvad is based, isn't part of the US's intelligence network, however.
@@BlackBallBouncer Uh oh is this an actual thing I missed? I mean there's always a possibility, but is there a specific reason you say that?
The Internet and eventually the world would be a better place if the govt got interested to initiate teaching non-tech people basics of the internet privacy and security but instead of that They find it easy to put restrictions on us.These are just violation of human rights in a different form.
Why would the government do that? The government wants to control and enslave people, the government doesn't want to help people. The government is not your friend or ally.
Under the excuse of "tHe ChILdReN". It'd be better if they actually made their job instead of this crap.
In what way does that benefit the government? If nothing else it’d make people more aware of their spying which is obviously not something they want.
Safari (and hence the new browser Orion)’s anti fingerprinting is very effective, and is based on never running the fingerprinting JavaScript in the first place. Add an anti tracker block list such as those included with iVPN or Mullvad - or an add on like ublock origin - and you’re good to go in most cases.
It just glows a different colour
@@mastersanskartiwari what do you think of Kagi, the company behind Orion? Honest question.
Ah I see: They're trying to solve the energy crisis by creating the brightest-glowing thing in the known universe
the last sound of the video sounds like you lit a well deserved joint after making another informative video xD
I'm not kidding 20 minutes before I saw this video I thought to myself I should really figure out what the best VPN service is by asking on the LTT forum. This isn't the first time an occurance has happened like this for me with your videos.
Ltt forums are not intelligent.
I am not impressed. Lots of people thought randomly of a close relative the day before they died without knowing about it. You just have a really high probability of thinking something that Outlaw will make a video about soon since you follow the latest cyber security news. It is really cool that your questions get answered quickly tho
@@miguidieu06 Or to be more specific: because said relative died, you remember thinking about them. But that's literally splitting hairs.
What would be your choice, LibreWolf or Firefox customized with your own settings (the ones you showed in past videos)?
Librewolf
LibreWolf definitely.
@@oz_jones just to clarify by kikefox you don't mean kike-fox cause that's an ethnic slur for Jewish people
Brave.
both are pretty much equivalent except a few settings like advanced fingerprint blocking and automatic addon updates, but LibreWolf is just less of a pain in the rear end to set up
Inside of the Mullvad app, under split tunneling in settings, you can choose to open programs that will bypass the VPN tunnel. Is this not the functionality that you were looking for?
Any way to go about that if your not using the app/client on endpoints because its running network wide?
@@lejoshmont2093 iptables
Mullvad supports split tunneling, can be found under settings in their application
Sick vid dude. I've been loving Mullvad for a couple of years now and this project looks like it could actually become popular to a degree. Maybe in the Year of the Linux Desktop?????????
I wish you'd mentioned whether it was based on Chromium or FF. I haven't looked it up yet but the UI looks like FF which gave me hope. The fact that no real alternative browser has deviated from Chromium and helping break up the browser hegemony.
Mullvad is the goat and getting "goatier" lol hopefully, cheers.
Mullvad is based on FF.
A fun topic to look into, the Dutch police is sending out letters to users of breach forums. Would've guessed that people's opsec would've been better
Firefox is actually more private and secure than Librewolf, even according to your chart. Librewolf also lags behind Firefox updates (its upstream) which makes it very insecure as you're basically running an outdated Firefox. That could make something like 0-days even worse than they already are. Is it worth taking that risk just to have some feature enabled by default (which can be enabled anyways in Firefox)? I don't think so.
your videos keep going into an unending buffer moment after 1 and a half minutes
update your revanced app.😄
I use brave, both on my phone and pc. No real complaints, pretty good experience.
am i crazy or didn't i hear that TOR was compromised by intl intel taking control of a critical mass of the server layers tor uses 🤷🏻♂️
enjoy it while it lasts.... once mullvad starts experiencing more and more fame it'll go to shit, as they all do. i was surprised when you mentioned mullvad having an organization behind it as a plus... hell no! the reason projects like librewolf will last is because they are run by the community, it's impossible for the community to get money hungry and greedy.
seriously, every "privacy driven" project with a company behind it ends up turning to shit, firefox, duckduckgo, even distros, like ubuntu. it happens to them all... it will continue to happen to them all D:
We can only hope they don't...
I would (partly) disagree with Ubuntu, on the point, that they weren't privacy focused/driven
If not by current owners than the next ones at some point.Those jobs are just a power seat and one day that seat will be sat in by a corrupt person.
What do you mean with FireFox???
Decentralization is the key. The more decentralized, the better.
I love mullvad, this message is brought to you by a non-sock
Finally, I don’t have to be afraid of the FBI seeing me search “How to make class in Java”
Mullvad out here being better than every vpn and truly privacy conscious
absolute chads
Tor Browser glows
Obviously not sponsored.
This is awesome, been using Mullvad since forever so I’m downloading this rn
Wow that's unusual, metal outlaw is using Windows, 8:31 I assume it's in a VM but still that's unusual for him.
Must have been gaming
@@BuetifullPersun you can game fine in Linux so you don't need windows to game.
@@electricz3045you can game fine but not perfectly in Linux. it still had problems
@@XxZigonxX I don't have any problems when playing steam games and games from epic. Just use steam proton and heroic games launcher.
Well, if you really want to segment your traffic you can built an anon vm and use that for your privacy/hackerman stuff, and a different vm bound to a different interface for your surface web stuff. At that point you might as well just use qubes os though imo.
I think what you mentioned about the whole computer connecting to the VPN service *does* sound pretty bad. I mean, wouldn't that mean that if someone wanted to have two browsers open at once (for whatever reason), if they tried signing into like Gmail or something on one, it could be linked easier with activity on Mullvad Browser? I am not the most technically-minded, but this sounds like a security flaw.
I am asking me the same
Seems much easier to run a split tunnel. This can be accomplished through a number of GUIs and the terminal. Mullvad is best bet for VPN.
You want Mullvad browser only traffic to go through the Mullvad VPN while allowing other network traffic to bypass the VPN?
I don't think that sort of setup would even meet the definition of a VPN, which is an OSI Layer 3 protocol, so pretty much all traffic on the network stack needs to be routed through it (with the exception of Layer 2 Link Local stuff, which is strictly local network). To differentiate by application, you need to focus on Layer 7, that's really high up.
I don't think you can do this without full virtualisation (basically running two machines with separate stacks on one hardware layer).
A proxy can be more selective (port 80/8080/443 traffic) but that is not a VPN.
Add a second virtual network adapter, that can be used for the VPN, and than say the browser, to use that one. And/or link that to a local proxy, which the browser can use.
Brave = best for speed, security and doesnt display ads at all.
lol brave is a scam ur late
@@900distribution7 how so? brave is the best browser ever.
super fast, uses the least resources, secure, anti theft, anti phising, has adblock directly from install.. best so far. I tested all.
@@valt1337 dig deeper
@@valt1337 all chromium browsers spyware
@@900distribution7 no point in digging, brave is the best
This browser is even better for Mullvad users.
I don't bootlick corporations but Mullvad is chad.
i love my internet ghetto
I still don't understand how letterboxing helps. Whether you use a small or large screen, it's still going to resize to something slightly smaller but still close to your display's resolution. Now on top of being able to tell apart Tor/mullvad users with different resolutions, you can also tell apart those who use a standard browser form those who don't. It makes tracking worse. At least if it changed randomly for every site and session it would be a bit better
First I've heard of mullvad. Thanks for sharing.
2:30 I have seen these specifically on a tech podcast a lot... which is uuuh an interesting place.
Always talking about an invest and sometimes even having a conversation with other bots so seem more real... obviously with some real commenter mixed in there
That screen resolution thing is cool. It should stretch rendered page and then zoom in or out so you don’t really notice it
LibreWolf seems to be best browser more so than Mullvad.
Yay you made a video about it I’m currently using it
Will mullvad make a mobile browser?
Now if Mullvad would only release a flatpak of their VPN so I can use it on my Deck.
You dont want to use flat pack's
Flatpaks, as great as they are, aren't made for system-level stuff like this. But as the steam deck runs on KDE Plasma, you can just add a wire WireGuard connection in the network settings.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll give it a spin
The whole screen size thing has baffled for quite a while, why not just let people resize the page after it has already loaded? If the website is designed properly it should scale appropriately.
So like rather than the website scaling the website to fit your browser, the browser scales the website after receiving the website contents.
Eh librewolf and Tor is enough. I don't see how putting a VPN company in between my website and myself can benefit in any way other than geoblocking
Tor speed is 100x less fast than VPN.
To be honest, I think I'll be giving Mullvad some time before considering switching over from Brave (which yeah, I know also has some issues) because it's still a new thing, as well as because to this day, I still prefer chromium to firefox.
I do not understand how spoofing screen size helps being harder to fingerprint. Most screens have standard size. Leting them know I have 1920x1080 sounds much safer to me than having some random or weird size.
im pretty sure thats what it usually gets spoofed to since thats what most people use
The browser also reports the window size of your browser. Mine is pretty unique because I resized my taskbar. So it makes sense to spoof it.
The most ambitious crossover in our timeline.
Firefox has anti fingerprinting tech like faking screen resolution but it is not enabled by default.
Damn, rivaling Tor for marketshare is ballsy
It's good to have more "heads" like a hydra. But! We got to check them out through audits and hopefully checking through the source code to make sure it's as good as it claims to be.
Tor is a completely different protocol though
They don’t want to rival tor
they are working with tor for this project...
A lot of VPNs have it so you can use just your browser with the vpn through the client, Mullvad's split tunneling technically allows it to but its unrealistic to do so.
i tried it, it's pretty lean and clean. but it is really slow tbh.
thorium (avx2 flag enabled) is around 2-3 times faster on inital (uncached) load of same websites.
still looking for that "privacy + speed + minimalism + (optional vpn/tor)" all in one package...
Same bro
Speaking of Mullvad, would you be willing to make a video showing how to enable Mullvad VPN on Steam OS? I'm a long time Mullvad VPN user but I can't seem to figure out how to enable it on my Steam Deck. I saw one guide online saying that I needed to use their Open VPN config files and set them up in KDE's network settings but I find that kind of restrictive and complicaed. Thanks mate.
At least on my setup, I configured Linux to just route specific connections through mullvad. It's not that hard.
But... this is not application based, but connection based. Like, certain net masks.
The litecoin of browsers
Thanks for another great piece of content 🎉
The idea of only routing browser traffic through a VPN and nothing else would be insanely helpful to me
damn looks useful, is the browser paid?
I wonder how operagx would compare to mullvad
10:30 That was my first thought after downloading. That is something that should absolutely be included.
Mullvad means "mole" in Swedish , so CAN we trust them?
As in burrowing through a tunnel. A VPN is a tunnel.
Ah It was too early in the morning, i should have gotten that
Absolutely B A S E D.
11:43 "This browser has an organization behind it". Yeah, it probably has three letters and glows as hard as protonmail 🤣
Yikes, do you just hear organization and assume glowies? Because just about every open source project has an organization behind it...
@@surewhynot6259 Virgin who trusts any organization VS chad who builds their own OS and browser from scratch in their nuclear bunker. RIP Terry, you are missed.
What’s wrong with protonmail?
@@usernamehhhs4540 They've caved in
@@surewhynot6259 Uh, the ABC boys were initially involved with the development of Tor itself. Yes, later they went after the lead dev and so on, but they originally saw it as a tool to conduct their work off the books. Just assume they're involved somehow.
Why doesn't everyone just setup a VPN gateway to the internet in AWS or some other VPS host? It won't cost much different, and you'll have total control over the system and settings.
I am so hyped, after im not broke i might switch back to mulvad and from librewolf to mulvad browser. Hopefully its not chromium.
just installed tiny10 today, perfect timing. gonna make this my new browser!
Oh yeah brother
Congrats your first 🥇
It's a good day to be a Mullvad user
Closed source, open source or partially open source ?
at min 1:43 before some special topic starts the video stops and the loading icon appears. its only possible to watch the rest of the video if that special part is skipped.
Anyone else noticing this?
Commenting for the algorithm
You're second 🥈
Based.
nice 👍🏻 a Mullvad browser Metamask extension would be nice.
I might be wrong but i think all Mullvad accounts technically have the password "m".
the browser comparison chart is misleading because many of the features just aren’t enabled by default. you can adjust easily in about:config or about:flags
Why does this guy like his Windows 11 VMs so much?
I wish there was a service that routed tor's exit node traffic through a clear web friendly ip. obviously it needs some kind of user verification to prevent bot abuse. or maybe it should just block login pages if that's possible because what's the point of using tor if you're signing into something on the clear web?