If you'd like to 3D print all, or some of the accessories I designed and showed off in this video they are now available on Printables.com at the following link. Thanks for checking out the video and enjoy. - www.printables.com/model/1032329-accessories-for-kobravr-maglock-ultra-maglock-pro
Personal, i love all of the extra attachments. If anyone has seen my stocks, i love decking out my stocks (stay tuned for those who haven't. Im going to make videos on them)! I think that I've started to rub off on you with the attachments 😅. Im sorry for the addiction lol
Thanks, I know you have been mad busy, so I appreciate the review. Hope you don't mind me making a couple of points that I also did on Twitter / X. Head position, posture, thumb position, and lighting can all affect tracking. I use the Q3 Ultra a lot, especially in Ghosts of Tabor and don't have tracking issues. If anyone has concerns and would like any particular weapons demonstrating, I can upload videos any time - just ask. With all top-mounted stocks there is a risk of occlusion, you have to work with it rather than against, you'll find what works best and suits your playstyle when you spend time with a new stock, that's the same for any stock regardless of model. Hope this makes sense for people 🙂
2:30 This is why removing the tracking rings with touch plus was a mistake. The whole point of the rings is that they make it impossible for your hands to occlude the tracking LEDs in the controllers. Now, it's extremely easy to occlude most of the LEDs, and Meta tries to make up for the with "AI predictive tracking. " Touch Plus controllers are effectively a downgrade from regular old touch controllers when it comes to tracking.
Thanks for the review it is very thorough as usual. Also with tracking with anything with or without a stock and that is ANY stock not just ours, the Quest 3 the LED can be effected by long sleeves we have found. Lost tracking whilst wearing a hoodie a while back >
At this point in time, no they do not. And I don't know if Meta will, or can, make them work together. The only controllers Meta allows you to pair with the Quest 3 is, of course, the Quest 3 controllers and the Quest Pro controllers.
I heard there is a new kobravr mamba edc gunstock for quest 3, will you make a video about it? Thanks for the detailed reviews, I base my purchase decision based on them
You've heard correctly. KobraVR does have a new stock coming out. I haven't gotten hands on with it yet but a little birdie told me there's one on the way and I do plan to make a review video for it. The little bit of behind the scenes stuff I've been lucky enough to see is pretty sick.
@@Maraksot78I had the MagLock Ultra in my cart and was literally about to purchase it right before coming across this comment. I will now wait for your Mamba review, as I would hate to have buyer's remorse. Thanks
Which would you recommend more, this, the Blitzer or the Sanlaki Elite? I have the Elite but am thinking of sending it back. It is okay but the magnets don't hold as well as I would like making the grips slip off easily. Does this seem to hold and "feel" better when removing and reattaching the grips?
I am biased as I am half of KobraVR. We order custom magnets, so they are consistent strength and quality. They are thoroughly tested to avoid accidental slip. Personally, I like lightweight stocks and a fixed rear, so Blitzer would be my go to.
Man that's kind of a tough question. I can't speak to the SanLaki as I've never used one, but when it comes to choosing between the Blitzer and the MagLock Ultra, in my opinion, it boils down to what kind of expeience you're looking for? If you want something that is easy to use, super lightweight, is super adjustable and just flat out fast for playing fast paced online shooters like Contractors, or Vail or something, I would recommend the Blitzer as it fits all those criteria really well. On the other hand if you're more into Simulation shooters and looking for something that is going to give you the most realistic experience then the Ultra is definitely worth trying out. It's not as heavy as a real firearm, because in a video game you're going to be holding up your rifle a lot more than you would in real life and it being light weight helps prevent fatigue, but when it comes to being able to disconnect your dominant hand from the stock to use that hand for things, I don't know how it could be any better. The magnets hold your controller firmly in place and you can even pull the stock into your shoulder a decent amount with that controller before the magnets will detach. For the controller to detach easily you have to tip the handle of the controller toward the magazine like I show at 7:51. If you pull straight back it takes significantly more force to get them to come apart. Falandorn (the owner/creater of KobraVR) told me they use N52 strength mangets which have a pulling force of around 10 pounds, so they lock in really nicely. But yah, if you're more of a competetive online player, I would say the Blitzer is the way to go and if you're a sim guy then the Ultra is probably going to suit you best.
@@Maraksot78 About the magnets this info is not strictly correct and it is a little more complex. We use different strength and size magnets for different applications, we also change the strength through various small tweaks eg it was too strong on the Ultra at one point so we altered the design and lowered the strength, we can also have a change to the size of the countersunk hole for instance. Sourcing them is key, an N38 from one manufacturer can be similar to an N52 from a different one - even though it is listed as the same force "N52". I buy the magnets from the same company every time as they are specialists and offer consistency.
I would say kobravr. I know it could be a conflict of interest on my part since I am a sponsor so take my word with a pinch of salt. But I'll be honest with you, since I owned a Sanlaki and many kobra stocks, I'll say it depends on your play style! I think the kobra stocks are really rugged and really well put together. The stocks are tested functional and are really user-friendly. I have to say, personally, using stocks that use magnetic docks does take time to master and practice to perfect. This includes the kobra stocks as well. I personally love the magnetic dock stocks from KobraVR as I primarily run with the Ultra (the one from this review) and the maglock pro stocks. The issues that I had with the Sanlaki stocks were the use of metal poles with 3d printed plastic. During the construction process, if you over tighten the poles, the threads on the pole can and will cross thread the 3d printed parts, causing parts to fit loosely. And heaven forbid you drop it, the weight of the poles can snap any of these 3d printed connections. But both are really solid products for their own reasons. Just do your research on the products to find what suits your play style and needs.
My stock cost less than 6 dollars. Old dowel, a new roll of reduced price green duct tape, 3 paper towel tubes and some brown packing paper to fill in the tubes as needed. It is sweet.
How would you compare this to the KobraVr mamba I’m thinking of getting one but not 100% sure since it’s a little pricey for me also I have the kiwi grips for my controllers will they not work with the mamba if you know?
Thanks for the review - the best as always. Is this compact SMG tracking problem common? It's a only thing about this gunstock that concerns me before buying
I had no problem using most all SMG's with the Ultra. Stuff like the MP5, the Vector and others all worked great with the Ultra. For the ones where your hands are super close together, you can adjust the gunstock calibration in some games to help, but sometimes even that isn't enough. Over all though it's pretty surprising how forgiving most games are about your hand placement. There was only a couple guns I had trouble with using the Ultra, So in my opinion, not being able to adjust the distance between your hands isn't a deal breaker.
Hey man, i had a technical question! If im upgrading the RAM in my PC, and i currently have 2x8gb ram sticks, would it make more sense to add 2x16gb sticks or to just replace them? (given the speeds are the same and are all DDR4 with the same amount of bandwith for all)
KobraVR actually does do that, it's just not part of their normal options. After placing your order they'll email you, and then you can request things like a buffer tube.
Hi, I'm a military vet vr freak. any chance or any where I can get those same accessories for mine as well ? of course I can paypal or such ? thanks so much
I've been thinking about uploading the models to Printables.com, so people can download and print them themselves if they'd like, but haven't done it yet. I can totally do that though if you'd like?
KobraVR doesn't make their files available for obvious reasons, but I've been thinking about uploading the holo/telescopic sight and other accessories I modeled to Printables if people are interested.
Would I be able to just order the quest pro one and use it with the quest 3 because it looks the same but with just the hole for the camera on the pro because I don’t have a pro and I plan one getting the controllers only soon and I don’t want to buy a whole new gunstock for the pro controllers
I believe the Quest 3 controllers are just different enough that they don't fit right in the Quest Pro rings. When you order, you can message KobraVR and ask to get both sets of controller mounting rings. KobraVR is very customer service oriented and I know they'll be more than happy to accommodate you.
@@Maraksot78 hey I’m having problems with the right hand tracking with the pro controllers on quest three with this gunstock. Any idea why this may be if I keep the right pro controller in the ring detached from the gunstock works perfectly in my hands as soon as I connect the right hand randomly loses track of that right hand.
@JoseGutierrez-pr6re hmmm... I don't know. I haven't had any problems with the Mag-Lock Ultra and the Pro controllers. You did get the Pro controller docks for it I assume? There's a difference between the Pro controller and Quest 3 controller docks. The Pro controller docks have cutouts for the cameras that the Quest 3 docks don't have. I assume that's not your issue though?
@@Maraksot78 yes I have the pro controller and the quest three rings , once I put the pro controllers on the ring, randomly the quest, three loses track of it and starts moving my hand sometimes in random circles, sometimes to the right. as soon as I detach the ring with the controller from the dock, it tracks perfectly again. I wonder if there is any tips that you can give me to improve the tracking.
Which part of the video are you referring to? I show footage from several different games in this video. If I remember correctly I show footage from Contractors, Pavlov and Breachers. They all have native Quest versions, but the footage I show is all PC VR, so the graphics look better than the native Quest versions do.
I am glad that Exponential technology products and barriers to entry for things such as these actually democratizes/dematerializes (Diamandis guy talks about) the experiences to all gamers of sort regardless. But isn't it the whole experience of VR or the Gaming industry in general is to provide entertainment and 'experiences' (subjective) to a whole new level-- to get away/escapees from the mundane reality of it all. I mean the use of tools that mimics/utilizes our biological Hunter and Gatherer hand and eye coordination thingy defeats the whole purpose of what is deemed possible for closing the gap with the 'fantasy' world, which kind of 'killjoy' actually. I know that this niche market is at the early stages of adoption for all things geek, but this nascent industry should focus more on building tools that will capture our very wildest imagination yet. I mean why not take advantage of the infiniteness of the digital world of bits, instead of doing things like reloading the barrel and all the ridiculous things that go with it. I apologize for not being liberal BABY! but this makes me want to recite John Travolta's 'well! life is stranger than fiction sometimes' with the overall direction of this technology.
It’s kind of weird to include the attachments in this review. It’s a bit irrelevant to someone trying to see if it’s worth purchasing. After watching the review I’m not sure how often tracking issues occur because you were mentioning your unnecessary attachments (you don’t see the stock while playing, doesn’t make sense to use attachments or a magazine).
Honestly for me, I'd either get stock by WieldVR if you don't mind not having magnetic controller grips, or even better get the Sanlaki Elite. It's almost identical to this except works with all SMGs and its $12 cheaper, for me anyways.
the problem here is that the prices are insane, basically they are all selling 3d printed things with few light weight pipes at 10 times the cost. in Australia the Sanlaki is 200 dollars, this one in the video 180 and probably the cost to make them is around 15 to 20 bucks (au$) including the magnets and metal parts.... unless this one has some "flair", the sanlaki is basically 2 pipes and 2 pieces of 3d printed material
@juryfilanti at the end of the day it's to each their own as prices will vary depending on where you live and if you already have a 3D printer and such. The main things you're paying for when buying a VR stock isn't the material but the design and engineering. It takes a surprising amount of research and engineering to make a stock that's adjustable in numerous ways without having tracking issues and damaging the controllers. I've used a cheap stock a few years ago and I think I only paid like $40-60 for it but it was awful tbh, still better then no stock at all but the sling it came with didn't work right and the controllers has to be pushed into the holders everytime you needed to reload or throw something. Personally I'd rather just pay the $157 the Wield stock costs in USA and save me a ton of time designing and buying a 3d printer and learning to use it and etc. Plus these companies are usually pretty awesome about sending upgrade parts for free as long as ya pay shipping or honoring their warranties if a piece breaks.
@@VulcanEditing I totally agree, but just for example, I have 2 kobraVR gunstock, they do work decently good, but as someone else mentioned in the comments they are cheap to be fair, hollow plastic, a lot of imperfection in the printing, not the sturdiest but they work good enough, and I love the open cup design... but... until not much time ago you could buy a "naked" version of the gunstock for around 50 to 60 dollars and the pretty one for around 90 with just the look as difference, now it cost 30% more and there is no cheap version. this is just to say that you can still buy a valid 50 bucks gunstock, they just don't give you the option anymore. For me the point of buying 3d printed (and I do 3d printing) is that is cheap but "weaker", now you got product like sanlaki or this one at a very high price, when a Spine is 70 bucks or a protube 120
If you'd like to 3D print all, or some of the accessories I designed and showed off in this video they are now available on Printables.com at the following link. Thanks for checking out the video and enjoy. - www.printables.com/model/1032329-accessories-for-kobravr-maglock-ultra-maglock-pro
Personal, i love all of the extra attachments. If anyone has seen my stocks, i love decking out my stocks (stay tuned for those who haven't. Im going to make videos on them)! I think that I've started to rub off on you with the attachments 😅. Im sorry for the addiction lol
Thanks, I know you have been mad busy, so I appreciate the review. Hope you don't mind me making a couple of points that I also did on Twitter / X.
Head position, posture, thumb position, and lighting can all affect tracking. I use the Q3 Ultra a lot, especially in Ghosts of Tabor and don't have tracking issues. If anyone has concerns and would like any particular weapons demonstrating, I can upload videos any time - just ask.
With all top-mounted stocks there is a risk of occlusion, you have to work with it rather than against, you'll find what works best and suits your playstyle when you spend time with a new stock, that's the same for any stock regardless of model.
Hope this makes sense for people 🙂
Just got mine today. Looking forward to testing!
I'm really looking forward to receiving mine. I ordered one after seeing your last video 😊
Didnt I send this the other day?
@@jinxed13 I haven't received a dispatch email yet. The order details say between 11 and 26 April
@@AndyBailey Found it I think I have you down as next week sometime at the latest. FWI you are from the same city as Simon (Mr KobarVR).
2:30 This is why removing the tracking rings with touch plus was a mistake. The whole point of the rings is that they make it impossible for your hands to occlude the tracking LEDs in the controllers. Now, it's extremely easy to occlude most of the LEDs, and Meta tries to make up for the with "AI predictive tracking. " Touch Plus controllers are effectively a downgrade from regular old touch controllers when it comes to tracking.
Thanks for the review it is very thorough as usual. Also with tracking with anything with or without a stock and that is ANY stock not just ours, the Quest 3 the LED can be effected by long sleeves we have found. Lost tracking whilst wearing a hoodie a while back >
That minimal design of the Quest 3 controllers definitely makes them picky when it comes to tracking.
Just buy the Quest Pro controllers?
Man! I love you! This is great review! I couldn't decide what to buy, and this seems like a perfect solution for me. Thanks a lot for the video!
I want it! I need it! I'll get it! thanks for the video !
Why can I see the Fry "Shut up and take my money" meme playing out right now with this comment!
Do the quest 3 controllers work with the quest 2 headset
At this point in time, no they do not. And I don't know if Meta will, or can, make them work together. The only controllers Meta allows you to pair with the Quest 3 is, of course, the Quest 3 controllers and the Quest Pro controllers.
I heard there is a new kobravr mamba edc gunstock for quest 3, will you make a video about it?
Thanks for the detailed reviews, I base my purchase decision based on them
You've heard correctly. KobraVR does have a new stock coming out. I haven't gotten hands on with it yet but a little birdie told me there's one on the way and I do plan to make a review video for it.
The little bit of behind the scenes stuff I've been lucky enough to see is pretty sick.
@@Maraksot78I had the MagLock Ultra in my cart and was literally about to purchase it right before coming across this comment. I will now wait for your Mamba review, as I would hate to have buyer's remorse. Thanks
Does the Kobra Blitzer and this play and aim pretty much the same? Is it more of looks with this one?
Which would you recommend more, this, the Blitzer or the Sanlaki Elite? I have the Elite but am thinking of sending it back. It is okay but the magnets don't hold as well as I would like making the grips slip off easily. Does this seem to hold and "feel" better when removing and reattaching the grips?
I am biased as I am half of KobraVR. We order custom magnets, so they are consistent strength and quality. They are thoroughly tested to avoid accidental slip. Personally, I like lightweight stocks and a fixed rear, so Blitzer would be my go to.
Man that's kind of a tough question. I can't speak to the SanLaki as I've never used one, but when it comes to choosing between the Blitzer and the MagLock Ultra, in my opinion, it boils down to what kind of expeience you're looking for?
If you want something that is easy to use, super lightweight, is super adjustable and just flat out fast for playing fast paced online shooters like Contractors, or Vail or something, I would recommend the Blitzer as it fits all those criteria really well.
On the other hand if you're more into Simulation shooters and looking for something that is going to give you the most realistic experience then the Ultra is definitely worth trying out. It's not as heavy as a real firearm, because in a video game you're going to be holding up your rifle a lot more than you would in real life and it being light weight helps prevent fatigue, but when it comes to being able to disconnect your dominant hand from the stock to use that hand for things, I don't know how it could be any better. The magnets hold your controller firmly in place and you can even pull the stock into your shoulder a decent amount with that controller before the magnets will detach. For the controller to detach easily you have to tip the handle of the controller toward the magazine like I show at 7:51. If you pull straight back it takes significantly more force to get them to come apart. Falandorn (the owner/creater of KobraVR) told me they use N52 strength mangets which have a pulling force of around 10 pounds, so they lock in really nicely.
But yah, if you're more of a competetive online player, I would say the Blitzer is the way to go and if you're a sim guy then the Ultra is probably going to suit you best.
@@Maraksot78 About the magnets this info is not strictly correct and it is a little more complex. We use different strength and size magnets for different applications, we also change the strength through various small tweaks eg it was too strong on the Ultra at one point so we altered the design and lowered the strength, we can also have a change to the size of the countersunk hole for instance. Sourcing them is key, an N38 from one manufacturer can be similar to an N52 from a different one - even though it is listed as the same force "N52". I buy the magnets from the same company every time as they are specialists and offer consistency.
I would say kobravr. I know it could be a conflict of interest on my part since I am a sponsor so take my word with a pinch of salt. But I'll be honest with you, since I owned a Sanlaki and many kobra stocks, I'll say it depends on your play style! I think the kobra stocks are really rugged and really well put together. The stocks are tested functional and are really user-friendly. I have to say, personally, using stocks that use magnetic docks does take time to master and practice to perfect. This includes the kobra stocks as well. I personally love the magnetic dock stocks from KobraVR as I primarily run with the Ultra (the one from this review) and the maglock pro stocks. The issues that I had with the Sanlaki stocks were the use of metal poles with 3d printed plastic. During the construction process, if you over tighten the poles, the threads on the pole can and will cross thread the 3d printed parts, causing parts to fit loosely. And heaven forbid you drop it, the weight of the poles can snap any of these 3d printed connections. But both are really solid products for their own reasons. Just do your research on the products to find what suits your play style and needs.
My stock cost less than 6 dollars. Old dowel, a new roll of reduced price green duct tape, 3 paper towel tubes and some brown packing paper to fill in the tubes as needed. It is sweet.
How would you compare this to the KobraVr mamba I’m thinking of getting one but not 100% sure since it’s a little pricey for me also I have the kiwi grips for my controllers will they not work with the mamba if you know?
Are the files for the attachments for the gunstock public?
great review and very good gunstock
Does this kind of controller mount scratch the controllers?
How does it work with the knife in Vail?
Thanks for the review - the best as always. Is this compact SMG tracking problem common? It's a only thing about this gunstock that concerns me before buying
I had no problem using most all SMG's with the Ultra. Stuff like the MP5, the Vector and others all worked great with the Ultra. For the ones where your hands are super close together, you can adjust the gunstock calibration in some games to help, but sometimes even that isn't enough. Over all though it's pretty surprising how forgiving most games are about your hand placement. There was only a couple guns I had trouble with using the Ultra, So in my opinion, not being able to adjust the distance between your hands isn't a deal breaker.
dang.... I just bought a protube at double the price. My Sanlaki stock will not work on Tonabar..All other shooters it is flawless.
can you update me if the raedeon 7800 xt got better with virtual desktop i was thinking about buying it and i prefer virtual desktop
can u please test rx 6600 in vr? , its really hard to find any benchmarks i would really apriciate it
Hey man, i had a technical question!
If im upgrading the RAM in my PC, and i currently have 2x8gb ram sticks, would it make more sense to add 2x16gb sticks or to just replace them? (given the speeds are the same and are all DDR4 with the same amount of bandwith for all)
I wish this had provisions for a milspec buffer tube so we could add out own buttstock
KobraVR actually does do that, it's just not part of their normal options. After placing your order they'll email you, and then you can request things like a buffer tube.
Hi, I'm a military vet vr freak. any chance or any where I can get those same accessories for mine as well ? of course I can paypal or such ? thanks so much
I've been thinking about uploading the models to Printables.com, so people can download and print them themselves if they'd like, but haven't done it yet. I can totally do that though if you'd like?
Wish the files were available so i could print them....
KobraVR doesn't make their files available for obvious reasons, but I've been thinking about uploading the holo/telescopic sight and other accessories I modeled to Printables if people are interested.
Try TOMAHAWK or BUTCHER by SkolVR.
Would I be able to just order the quest pro one and use it with the quest 3 because it looks the same but with just the hole for the camera on the pro because I don’t have a pro and I plan one getting the controllers only soon and I don’t want to buy a whole new gunstock for the pro controllers
I believe the Quest 3 controllers are just different enough that they don't fit right in the Quest Pro rings. When you order, you can message KobraVR and ask to get both sets of controller mounting rings. KobraVR is very customer service oriented and I know they'll be more than happy to accommodate you.
@@Maraksot78 hey I’m having problems with the right hand tracking with the pro controllers on quest three with this gunstock. Any idea why this may be if I keep the right pro controller in the ring detached from the gunstock works perfectly in my hands as soon as I connect the right hand randomly loses track of that right hand.
@JoseGutierrez-pr6re hmmm... I don't know. I haven't had any problems with the Mag-Lock Ultra and the Pro controllers. You did get the Pro controller docks for it I assume? There's a difference between the Pro controller and Quest 3 controller docks. The Pro controller docks have cutouts for the cameras that the Quest 3 docks don't have. I assume that's not your issue though?
@@Maraksot78 yes I have the pro controller and the quest three rings , once I put the pro controllers on the ring, randomly the quest, three loses track of it and starts moving my hand sometimes in random circles, sometimes to the right. as soon as I detach the ring with the controller from the dock, it tracks perfectly again. I wonder if there is any tips that you can give me to improve the tracking.
what the name of this game? is it need for pc or can play it in Q3 !
Which part of the video are you referring to? I show footage from several different games in this video. If I remember correctly I show footage from Contractors, Pavlov and Breachers. They all have native Quest versions, but the footage I show is all PC VR, so the graphics look better than the native Quest versions do.
I am glad that Exponential technology products and barriers to entry for things such as these actually democratizes/dematerializes (Diamandis guy talks about) the experiences to all gamers of sort regardless. But isn't it the whole experience of VR or the Gaming industry in general is to provide entertainment and 'experiences' (subjective) to a whole new level-- to get away/escapees from the mundane reality of it all. I mean the use of tools that mimics/utilizes our biological Hunter and Gatherer hand and eye coordination thingy defeats the whole purpose of what is deemed possible for closing the gap with the 'fantasy' world, which kind of 'killjoy' actually. I know that this niche market is at the early stages of adoption for all things geek, but this nascent industry should focus more on building tools that will capture our very wildest imagination yet. I mean why not take advantage of the infiniteness of the digital world of bits, instead of doing things like reloading the barrel and all the ridiculous things that go with it. I apologize for not being liberal BABY! but this makes me want to recite John Travolta's 'well! life is stranger than fiction sometimes' with the overall direction of this technology.
Hi @maraksot78 please do a RTX 4070 super VR Performance Review
The only thing is I never play games where i only shoot with a rifle
Pretty sure you could rob a store with this
It’s kind of weird to include the attachments in this review. It’s a bit irrelevant to someone trying to see if it’s worth purchasing. After watching the review I’m not sure how often tracking issues occur because you were mentioning your unnecessary attachments (you don’t see the stock while playing, doesn’t make sense to use attachments or a magazine).
Honestly for me, I'd either get stock by WieldVR if you don't mind not having magnetic controller grips, or even better get the Sanlaki Elite. It's almost identical to this except works with all SMGs and its $12 cheaper, for me anyways.
the problem here is that the prices are insane, basically they are all selling 3d printed things with few light weight pipes at 10 times the cost. in Australia the Sanlaki is 200 dollars, this one in the video 180 and probably the cost to make them is around 15 to 20 bucks (au$) including the magnets and metal parts.... unless this one has some "flair", the sanlaki is basically 2 pipes and 2 pieces of 3d printed material
@juryfilanti at the end of the day it's to each their own as prices will vary depending on where you live and if you already have a 3D printer and such.
The main things you're paying for when buying a VR stock isn't the material but the design and engineering. It takes a surprising amount of research and engineering to make a stock that's adjustable in numerous ways without having tracking issues and damaging the controllers. I've used a cheap stock a few years ago and I think I only paid like $40-60 for it but it was awful tbh, still better then no stock at all but the sling it came with didn't work right and the controllers has to be pushed into the holders everytime you needed to reload or throw something.
Personally I'd rather just pay the $157 the Wield stock costs in USA and save me a ton of time designing and buying a 3d printer and learning to use it and etc. Plus these companies are usually pretty awesome about sending upgrade parts for free as long as ya pay shipping or honoring their warranties if a piece breaks.
@@VulcanEditing I totally agree, but just for example, I have 2 kobraVR gunstock, they do work decently good, but as someone else mentioned in the comments they are cheap to be fair, hollow plastic, a lot of imperfection in the printing, not the sturdiest but they work good enough, and I love the open cup design... but... until not much time ago you could buy a "naked" version of the gunstock for around 50 to 60 dollars and the pretty one for around 90 with just the look as difference, now it cost 30% more and there is no cheap version. this is just to say that you can still buy a valid 50 bucks gunstock, they just don't give you the option anymore.
For me the point of buying 3d printed (and I do 3d printing) is that is cheap but "weaker", now you got product like sanlaki or this one at a very high price, when a Spine is 70 bucks or a protube 120
how can you say this looks amazing when is clearly 3d printed with terrible finishings? sponsored? terrible content.