A great point he made “THE MUSIC IS GARBAGE “ people are tired of hearing about violence, drugs, k!lling and s3x….people are desiring music that feeds the soul….
Right just overall negativity and negativity sells. If you're a positive rapper, and have the dopest bars and your Music's uplifting the industry won't hear it
And to add to that.......people don't want to give the industry credit, because all the artists want to believe the labels just STOLE from them, BUT there was something known as artist development. Somebody would sign and it would be two years until they dropped an album and that in between time was building the artists up. Seems like now, artists are signed and put out as they are. No development.
But are they willing to pay for it? Streams aren't making us money. We need to move away from that and back to paying for an album release online or physically. At least those thousand streams can turn into 1000 people paying 10$. Vs 1000 streams making less than a penny each. Cost way more to make am album
@@Ball_Hard we are moving into a time where it’s coming to an end…evil is going to become less profitable . These industries are crumbling. Spiritually will become the order of the day… those who refuse, won’t survive … start finding positive creativeness and let God do the rest…!
That and most ""artists"" either rap, play guitar, or ""make beats"" aka produce. Or they're really talentless and try to DJ. Rapping doesn't take that much talent and skill - compared to playing an instrument - rock 'n' roll was ruined by boomers, and the world of music production/mixing/mastering is a lot more than just dragging and dropping a generic four-on the-floor sample pack drum loop. Especially if you want to work with synths. You almost need a physics degree to truly understand what you're doing and why. On top of that, you need to know a decent amount about computers, and the equipment/tools you need and how you're going to use them. And - if you're like me and want to write songs unique to you/as original as possible - you have to know what been done before and build upon that. Usually by learning music theory. Classical, jazz (hard-bop, bebop, modal, free etc, etc.), folk, funk, New Jack Swing, Nashville country of the 50's, outlaw country of the 70's, 90's trailer trash country, blues, prog rock, psychedelic rock, glam rock - the list of styles, genres and subgenres is endless. People who try to get famous as a musical artist - especially rappers - have no idea how to develop a sustainable career. They rehash and recycle the same influences and ideas. That's why artists on Spotify get less than a penny for every play. They treat it like non-music people who tell aspiring musicians that music is not a profession, but a hobby. Most pros recognize music for what it is: the most important and true artform ever developed. It's a religion and it's an obsession. And every culture, near, far, before Christ, after Christ - has relied on music in one form or another. Without music life would be a mistake.
Agreed also the ones that haven’t been wise and invested in other projects or deals done modelling acting started a shoe deal the ones that think they’re the best and don’t need to try are very silly.
@@salmonsandwich3183No,it isn't ,we all can make melody in our heart to the Lord.This music ,especially black music has went to far,far from love.Sex,violence and drugs is not where it's at,all it's doing is depressing people.
Prince predicted this over 20 years ago. Even Michael Jackson spoke about this in the late 90s about going independent and not sign your life away to the majors.
James Brown and Ray Charles did it decades before them. They were the first to go independent and have their own companies. James Brown owned radio stations too.
The music industry is in a decline because the singers can’t sing and the rappers can’t rap …notice how 90s R&B is still thriving despite being over 20 years old
no. Its because of streaming and the internet. People who can sing can just upload a video on youtube and boom, the song is distributed where as back before streaming in order for a song to be heard by millions it had to be backed by major label. Music was more gatekept and only a few acts were ALLOWED in. Now the artist can build their audience withOUT the major labels and that hurts the major labels. There are many great singers whom are independent and do not get commercials or super bowl ads because they are not signed to Atlantic records or Interscope ect.
Seeing celebrities go broke is a bittersweet surprise in life. I worked as a photographer/videographer and i was shocked when certain artists couldn't even afford to pay their videographer. I quit because there were too many broke rappers 😂 but what shocked me most was female models showed dignity and actually wanted to pay for my time. Majority of rappers are renting cars for shoots. It's all fake. Nobody has money so never feel bad about yourself
This artist years ago that was out back in the days… I mentioned his music on a page and people bought his music,… he became obsessed with me… thought I was gonna make him a millionaire. He never sent me a check. He wanted me to mention his music every day so he could pay off his house or bills. He didn’t even promote his own music. He thought he had free PR… I just said one line and he acted like I did a whole campaign. I did neither. This other singer in another state, commanded I send his music to a gospel artist. These middle age men trying to be an R&B singer. At my expense. I can’t like nothing or support the arts without these men catching feelings. I blocked all of them.
@@mondocjenson-dy8zd Music has been part of my life since I can remember. I can't remember the last day that I have not listened to music. To see how disgusting the music had gotten is heartbreaking.
man yall just aint know where to look. the mainstream has always catered to the mass market. If you want somethin more tailed to your music taste you gotta work for it
Andre 3 stacks said this 28 years ago. "I live by the beat, like you live check to check, if you don't move your feet, then I don't eat, so we like neck to neck"
These labels would use YOUR credit score to take out $100K loan on your behalf. They take $80K to make you a $5K album using their people and their studio. The left over $20K is "your sign in bonus" which artists spend on a chain or downpayment on a car. Once the album is done, YOU must promote the album to pay back the $100K loan THEN you make 10% of sales and tickets. If you don't pay the loan back, its on YOUR credit record. This is the same as college loans, but at least you end up with a diploma with a college loan.
Signing to a label is a waste of time. They are useless. They are obsolete. Social media has made them that way. You can buy all the stuff they give you for 5k or way less. You can buy a beat machine for a 1000, audio interface, mic and Mac with recording software on it for less than a 1000. Yes, it's pricey initially but it's yours after you buy it and you can keep using it. All you have to do is get it mastered. There are many companies online that do it for you if you pay them. And they are well priced. If you want the music printed on vinyl and CDS, you can go that route but most of the time, it's not needed because most people are going to buy it digitally anyway
@@TheDumontShow noone buys music. Selling music is a dead industry, gone the way of the ringtone market. It's intentional once the media companies went into streaming and are hiding how much they make of each spin, claiming it's too hard to calculate, yet years ago they could track and charge you per text and per talk minute, remember? You hear the same 40 songs on the radio because labels bought those slots years in advance. Same with chart positions. Ever wonder how a song could debut number 1 on the billboard chart's; when noone ever heard it or it's not even on sale yet? Where is this music poll they want us to believe exists that everyone fills out weekly? The number one spot on MTV TRL was $30,000. Now labels pay Spotify to pump numbers. So if the listener isn't paying, the label is spending money, where is the money coming from? The artist. When they get a court settlement, or money from the military, Ludacris got money from living in a place that needed to be torn down for an extension to the ATL airport. Labels rather prey on people getting these large checks than sell $10 CDs. This is why people think artists sacrifice a family member, because major pushes coincide with receiving inheritance. You can make your music, but independent means you have to find completely independent avenues to profit from your work.
@@coolnoah2744The truth is alot of times the labels don't care about making money from you if they can't. They only use that point to control you so you behave. They usually use the artist to smuggle things in and out of the state or country. Because of their star power no one searches them. They're also used for money laundering, because again due to their star power no one doubts how much money they have. It's all about the optics to the label. As long as the optics are right, best believe they know how to make money outta you. You get your fame that you always dreamed of and they get their money, giving you peanuts.
@cedricliggins7528 Honest question. What does an election year have to do with anything? I think a lot of people say that because everyone else says it. I've been hearing that my whole life
@@Doc255tbf music labels are established power, in a different lane. Labels being caught help funding the private prison industry. Real pushback against these labels will get an institutional response.
Go independent and live within your means. That's what I do as a simple beat maker/producer and I live great. I make six figures selling beats from my simple website.
@@jaysouthmusic8230 Indeed. I checked out your music and liked what I heard. You're on the right track. My only critique is I would work on making your mixes more balanced and mastering better processed to be as crystal clear and polished as possible. If there's anything I can do to help, please just ask. I discount my beats, promos, studio time, mixing and mastering services, share tips on how to live off your music, and more. Just ask me.
That's gotdamn intelligent. You are richer than them in the long run. Independent is the best route. The equipment you bought paid for itself tenfold. They lie to the people telling them they have to go through the system to be successful.
@@jaysouthmusic8230 Indeed. I checked out your music -You're definitely on the right track. I have beats on my site I'm confident you'll like. How do I get in touch with you directly?
@@TheDumontShow All facts! And I was able to write off most of the things I purchased for my business because I incorporated it and trademarked my name/likeness, which saved/made me even more income. I learned everything first through making lots of mistakes then the remainder through the Internet. Shoot, I should probably teach classes at this point to help as many people as possible as there's nothing like making money from a job you love and don't feel like it's a job.
no lol. the people you are talking about don’t know what they are doing. in order to have a viable career, an artist has to plan over the course of a few years their image, musical skills, find a good team, good entertainment lawyers etc. a record deal can take over a year to negotiate, and if your music is not good enough for a major label to give you a good deal, then you won’t stick around. a prime example of this phenomenon of not planning things is ice spice. she will simply not have label loyalty.
Music died when it was taken out of school. Many of the best bands that hit it big in the 70s and 80s meet in high school. And, they learned how to play instruments. I believe that this is why music programs were removed from schools.
Jewish/European/Asian Communities still have Music Programs because they run their Own Schools an Blackfolks don't know how too Build Community since 1492.. InsaneB'Fools..! All Industries feed off of eachother but Blackfolks are one dimensional when it comes to Business..
That generation is in and thriving right now theyre just re running the Gangsta Era of rap except their targeting our daughters straight up without a care.
They may not tell you they're broke but there will be signs. Like the ads for those scam ass bingo games where you can win "real money". Soon as I saw Cardi B and Snoop advertising that shit I knew this shit was all cap. They looking for work just like us. Finding it on scam ads is crazy though.
They could probably live comfortably if they weren't trying to live a lavish lifestyle also. Like if they were living a regular life they could be comfortable but they chasing the Kardashian extravagant life.
I knew it was getting hard when I started seeing celebrities create RUclips Channels. The lines have been blurred in terms of regular folks and celebrities. I don't know who belongs in which group anymore.
Hip Hop is *not* the only genre that's dying R&B music and Rock music is also dying. If the record labels would get some real talented artists in this decade and stop being lazy this would've never happened. I feel like they should bring funk music back because a lot of ppl enjoyed funk muisc when Bruno Mars was putting funk music.
The rule of music is to make money selling tickets to live events. Rap has historically been poor at selling concert tickets. Whites call it a bar and blacks call it a club so in white translation rappers are just bar acts at best.
@@off6848 Blues is still around. There are artists such as Eric Gales and Kingfish. The top acts are white such as Joe Bonamassa, Beth Hart and Samantha Fish. Beth Hart makes most of her money outside the U.S.and is fairly well known. Joe Bonamassa has more number one blues albums than any blues artist. Looks aren't important in blues because acts such as Joanna Conner exist.
For clarification, MC Hammer did NOT go broke nor is broke. He filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy reorganization. He did extremely well investing the bulk of his wealth, but had too many people on his payroll, me included. I was his roommate from the military and still friends. My personal experience.
In the early 2000s the labels got rid of a bunch of people after Napster and limewire came about. Everyone stopped buying music and there was no streaming
Rick Ross is rich because of endorsements and investments. You're not going to be that rich just off music unless you're touring like Beyonce and Taylor Swift.
Caught Out In The Rain by Beth Hart is a classic among figure skaters. Bang Bang Boom Boom by Beth Hart was translated into Vietnamese and it became popular there. There just won't be any household songs because there is no music culture where people hang out to listen to new acts. People are at home listening to whatever they found on the internet.
When I saw beyonce selling shampoo and liquor I was like wtf😂 I understand she is a billionaire... But it's a reason why she is tapping into so many markets
Do you comprehend that black people only make up 13 % of the population, but black hair are sales are billion dollar industry? It is very smart to sell black hair care - Asians figured this out decades ago. I get that you were throwing shade, but we are ignoring actual money being made due to us , and these people are not even black.
Alot of us only to old school music because the new music is not about thing like he said killing and robbing and dis respect I notice young people listening to old
We definitely need a reset in music culture, this garbage nowadays isn't even music and is barely audible. Where are the instruments that used to make songs what they were, and the musicians whose words u can't stop singing and whose music just fills your soul.. long gone are they days of real music, r.i.p. rnb, rap, soul, jazz, hip hop, reggae, country, latin, etc..
You clearly just aren’t even trying to find good music if this is how you feel. It is not hard to find genuinely good music that is made with passion and soul. Nor is it hard to find music that is made with real instruments and no auto tune. Cause it sounds like the only place you’re looking for “real music” is whatever is on Billboards Top 10 Songs of Week.
@@LimosaNostra_ It's not Country though. It's LA producers in Nashville putting out rural pop and R&B for people who are scared of black people. It was over for all music when the "album sale equivalent" became a thing with streaming.
@@anthonyrowland9072 also, independent country music is huge right now with people like uphurch. As far as the mainstream goes you can call it “pop” but it’s still country and it’s crushing every other genre. You sound kinda salty that White culture and music is winning right now and negative trash black culture is in the decline.
Humanitarians will be the new celebrities. The capricorn era that focused on materialism and the pisces age that was about money, power, and control is over. Aquarian age is about humanitarian work and will force people to question the works of celebrities and what they’re doing for their communities. Welcome to the shift.
Bro the point you made at the end about no classics being produced anymore is so spot on. It’s not much music I can think of in the last 10-15 years that’ll be considered timeless like some old school hits that still get spins today. 💯
@@InflationProof28 I said “not much music”. Obviously there’s some bright spots here and there. That being said B.O.B as an artist has never been my cup of tea
I read a book a decade ago about how the music business worked. I never looked at any artist the same: it is all a facade, if you do want to do music do it independently
high achievers are typically very intelligent, especially when they know how to pick the right people and how to present themselves. this is very serious work, and most artists have to have some sort of understanding of music business, or they won’t live comfortably after retiring, let alone have a good career. it just means they know what they are doing, and have the foresight to say “i need to make this decision on xyz.” years before they start making music professionally. most people start working on their skills before they even graduate high school.
It all depends on the lifestyle you choose to live. It is very hard to maintain a life owning expensive cars and Mansions etc. All that comes with also paying high taxes.
Yeah that’s not really the artist fault… live nation be buying back they OWN tickets and putting them on resale sites… not to mention individual scalpers using bots and reselling too… Used to LOVE going to concerts, but I don’t care to attend concerts any more due to the high ass ticket prices… Some say it’s capitalism, majority say it’s greed 🤷♂️… It’s all gonna make the shit collapse forreal… just a matter of time
It all costs too much when the tickets 60 bucks $40 to park $20 in gas $30 in food $50 for a t-shirt then yeah people are going to stop coming the way the world is today I can't afford to throw away that kind of money on a show let alone someone has come out in the last couple years with a hit song
@@TM-nb9zfI like the retired athlete podcasts tho. They give good insight. It’s what the sports world need. It’s been way many people who don’t play sports putting they two cents in for a long time. It got to stop
Can't believe the state of the music industry today...that dream has died. If u aren't making music just based on passion, there's no need to expect being able to support yourself....sad
it is very sad, if you have a talent you should be fairly compensated for the unique gift you bring to the world, instead you get a bunch of talentless leeches who suck you dry because that's the only way they'll ever thrive in this world.
It's an easy way to launder drug money. Every person busted selling drugs is a rapper and the IRS can't tell the difference between a real rapper and a fake rapper.
All of those movies about artists and groups that didn’t make money except for touring and folks are still surprised that folks don’t make money except for touring 😅 Did folks not watch Sparkle? The Temptations? Dreamgirls? It’s never been a secret and the music industry has never been ashamed. SMH
I watched the new edition story, And when the group were young,They got screwed over alot, Even when they went on tour. The heart break album and everything else after was when New Edition started making money. Of course, It's been a while since I have seen the movie so please correct me if I'm wrong.
And it’s always stole money from the artists. Hell Elvis Presley was BROKE when he died. His ex wife created Grace land to get him out to debt. And when the artist finally get their masters they end up dead 😵
Celebrities will exist, but not as household names. They may have 10 million followers on RUclips or Twitch and that's what a modern celebrity will look like.
Yeah, there’s a whole world outside of the U.S. there’s a lot of money in other countries. There’s no celebrity worship in a lot of these places, they just want to hear good music.
Not that I don't think all artists should be paid fairly for their work… But wouldn't it be nice if the people that became musicians did it because they actually loved music so much and felt they truly had a gift to share with the world… Rather than trying to think of how they can get rich and famous, regardless of talent or skill?
The fact that Diddy just offered to put up his houses worth 50 million says alot. He doesn't have that kind of "cash" or money in his bank account. Its smoking mirrors.
You need collateral for the amount of money it would have cost for him to get out. They don't take large sums of cash. They need assets. Doesn't mean he's not broke, but it was basically mandatory for him to be released if it were to be granted.
Celebrities have spending problems with drug addiction and fake lifestyle. The record deal is debt and Americans love debt then complain about bills and being broke.
There was an MTV special years ago and it talking about rappers breaking down the math of how they get paid. They all said you're broke unless you're touring.
Well music industry kinda started falling out due to the mass amount of people making “Tiktok/Reels” music (this is a new category of music aka “quick popularity trend music” and 2nd many big artist are just getting jailed or being put in court. Plus w the markets going on…it’s pretty hard to invest in music actually. Also it does not help most music is only available through streaming. I remember the days when you had to pass out CDs, mixtapes and shit. Now you just need social media or algo to do its part
@@PoorMansAlmanacNews that’s what you think! SIGNING LABELS technically doesn’t make you own it unless yoi have the masters or mainly the produce exec (you do the reduction for music basically) Big example is the Taylor Swift getting all her masters to release her own rendition or Frank Ocean vs Apple Music? (the biggest case in music) as someone that actually did study music arts, you’d be surprised how much people can do better independently than sign a labeland in the black community especially, niqqas are NOT READING the fine print. They kinda deserve it tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@PoorMansAlmanacNews a lot don’t own, and they’re owned by a label. And what’s worse is that so much money is in the air bc of unclaimed royalties and licensing fees
@@trxxblx-wxs-hxrx True. When there's that much going on it's not because people didn't want to claim money though; the industry was doing underhanded sh*t linked to other crimes and it's catching up to people.
Either you got creativity or the money it’s very hard to have both. So in reality most times there where always be someone with the capital to take most of the profits of your creativity. But those who have the capital take all the risks if you go bust. So is it really wrong for a capitalist to try to protect their investments as much as possible?
But even when they had talented singers they robbed them. It's said Sam Cooke's business manager set him up, his family has all of Sam's royalties, Jackie Wilson was beaten up by mafia as he paid them for protection etc. They died broke, even elvis barely had no money. Maybe that's why there aren't talented artists in the mainstream now, behind the scenes but they're making money in different ways. No one cares about talent
Maybe sign artist that are not just rap or hip hop, there used to be a lot of variety now all the new artists have the same sound, every song is the same, just loud noise.
These artist live off of loans, debt, and borrowed money. If the very top artist end up broke that lets you know what the smaller artist are truly earning! Ppl better create a business, gain a skillset, or develop a talent otherwise you will be broke like everyone else!
I love writing and recording and I’m really good at it but I haven’t wanted to be a performing artist in years and years. I’m heading towards sync licensing because it kills two birds with one stone. My desire to be famous as a young kid came from being insecure with myself and once I got older and got rooted in my own authenticity I was able to see how it wasn’t what I really wanted. Then I got privy to some experiences that scared me or opened my eyes to how I was being protected by being rejected - in spaces with some individuals who are currently in the news for weird shit rn lol - but I think this is all just making space for some new and authentic music and artists. The facades are dropping and I’m glad to see it crumble. It’s about damn time.
I could remember 1994 when everything tanked. Yeah! 1994. That's when radio stations had to become creative. Just do your history. We got Classic Soul, Hip Hop and Alternate, because the talent was just not there. So they had to pump up Beyonce and Usher. The Internet really didn't have nothing to do with this. At least in the beginning. The music industry has been hanging on ever since. Instead of 30 amazing singers in the 1980s, in the 90s we got maybe 3. Madonna wouldn't have survived in the 1970s. As well as New Edition and New Kids On the Block. But when you lower the standards in the 1980s, you get the 1990s and beyond. I can go on and on.
@@Alan_GA I'm a musician and I was in my late teens and early twenties in the eighties and I just hated some of the music of that decade. Trite and silly pop songs with cloudy sonic characteristics and excessive amounts of reverb defined the decade. I precipitated the eventuality of where the music scene would be today back in the 80's.
@@kennyblackbird5674 The creative side was definitely the technology of that period. Technology had advanced quite a bit in the 1980s. That's definitely allow not so great artists shine in the lame light with more talent. And because of these technologies we got genres that would never have been possible before this time. You can enhance voices and make them sound better with a push of the button. Now we got auto tunes that resemble that era. But it is doesn't replace real talent. The people who can actually sing, play instruments and move the crowd. However, sound really is the larger share of why people by songs. If the sound production is stellar, the artist doesn't have to be overwhelming good.
I think and believe that the reason Madonna became so successful is because not only did advanced technology afforded it to be possible, considering she's admitted that she can't sing but can market herself, which is sex, she was indeed well marketed and had a powerful management. The Jackson 5 in the 70's did that Bubble gum pop music and it worked for them. I hear that similar sound in New Edition, when they came out in the 80's. Considering they would have had big competition in the 70's, I could see how it would have been hard for them to survive.
Now that I think about it, where’s the money he has gonna go?🤔 maybe that’s the real reason he’s getting booked now and not when these “rumors” started.
The Drake Kendrick future beef was a huge indicator. They whole industry got off they ass to pay them bills. I’m canceling all my subscription. Been collecting cds for a while now
The music industry is a bunch of movies, the only movies where the lead roles (artists) sign into debt vs profit. You're given a script/themes, an image, and are responsible for a lot of executives money, you're just an actor. Only difference is actors actually make at least a BIT more real money.
It takes so many hands to make shit possible that’s why. After shit get buss down between 1000 hands how much profit is really left for the artists. Even the movies gotta buss down 100s of millions between 1000s of people and businesses.
@@ToniTruthArt I agree, that's my point. However imagine. . .. a Brad Pitt being signed to 3 movies, and having to recoupe 5-6x and never be able to get out of it or work on other movies. It's still really backwards.
I think this speaks to a general trend across the board, tbh. I like the part where you mentioned how labels aren't doing artist development anymore. You can see the same thing in other sectors. I mean, look at Boeing, for example. Their name was synonymous with reliability and they had standards. They dreamt of things and they invested in research and their top engineers. I don't think I have to mention their reputation now. I don't know anyone who wants to get on a Boeing plane, lol. I think we're getting to a point where (or maybe we've already gotten there) where the people in charge of organizations are just too cynical to dream anymore. They wanna maximize their own wealth first and then worry about whether they're going to have some legacy that will revolutionize things that people will care about second. That attitude trickles down and I think that's why things just feel so stagnant for people right now (not just musically, but everywhere)
I actually think rappers going into other avenues of business (products, restaurants, content creation, etc.) is a VERY wise decision! The artists are simply diversifying their ways of building wealth, there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that. But why didn't you talk about your music towards the end of the video like you mentioned you would? Since you discussed the other musicians, I would have liked to hear about how your music is going for you? And what kind of money you've made from it? That would've been helpful to hear :)
I don't see it as a bad thing either, i'm all about diversification and having multiple streams of income. They can use their influence and personal brand to bring in revenue from multiple different business endeavors as long as they're business minded or have a great team involved.
The black music industry went bust in the 80s. From there, is when the decline occured. It wasn't just rap, it included R&B. How the hell does Usher and Drake ever become so famous? I know more about Usher than Drake, I don't follow rap. Usher made it as an "actor" and dancer which was used as leverage for his music career. When Tupac and Biggie was out, we got Jarule and Jennifer Lopez. Even white acts aren't as talented as they use to be. Particularly Rock n Roll. Top 40 is dead with the 80s. That's why they're pushing country as a comeback genre, because they simply ran out of talent in the RNR genre. It isn't just the music, it is producers and directors of TV shows. The talent isn't there. The money to produce this talent is spent on wars and population control. All matters of a declining society.
Beth Hart, Starcrawler, The Warning, ZZ Ward, Samantha Fish, Eric Gales, Joe Bonamassa, Southern Avenue and Angelina Jordan are current talent. people just have to stumble on the acts because there is no MTV to spoon feed them music.
celebs are just bad with money. why you gotta have 3 homes and take care of your whole family? not to mention they sign the worst deals. theres money in music you have to do it yourself though
So glad I never succeeded as a recording/performing artist, songwriter. All I have for my efforts of the last 40 years is a storage unit full of guitars, keyboards, drum sets, p.a. equipment, about 300+ songs on my computer that I wrote, recorded and produced, and a job with my name on my shirt. Well, I also have developed a solid forex trading career which is going to support me when I retire, sometime soon, and my integrity is still intact. I’m good.
Y'all the real ones because most people who made it don't really like music, they did it for the lifestyle. If anyone comes out with music now, it has to be something good because there's no money to be made. It's a lot of pressure to mold your creativity based on what others like. Like me, I love giving massages.. but I don't wanna give 9 massages within 8 hour period. Ain't gonna do nothing but tire and burn me out. God gave us talents to share with the world freely to inspire and spread love. The love of money has really fucked up the talent industry and all the things that make us happy. Even now with doctors/ lawyers.. I feel a big portion of those who chase after that do it for the money and don't care about helping this system bring justice or help save lives.
I felt this was the case... I look at some of those old legends, -like Diana Ross, Patti Labelle and Gladys Knight, Smoky Robinson to name a few. Those old folks are still "touring" and out on the road. Sure, they like the attention but when you are in your 80s and as long as they have been performing 50 to 60 years. You aren't out there for that reason but for only one - MONEY! They have to work to live!
These artists supposed to be making the money back off of album sells, concerts and advertisements. But these days those bags are extremely hard to get! Artists in the game today will not benefit from owning their masters. These artist do not make enough to benefit from their masters at all. If you not MIchael Jackson or Prince you do not get benefits in the music industry. These artist are not even as talented as artists from 10-20 years ago.
Even established rock and pop singers are selling half or whole catalogues to Hipgnosis and other licensing companies. They are ca$hing out!! They'd rather have $50 to 200 million cash upfront from selling their whole catalogue...
There is plenty artist as talented as 10-20 ago, they just get 10-20x less exposure than these artist back then. Like there's no reason to why Anderson. Paak, Lucky Daye, Steve Lacy, Kaytranada, JID or Denzel Curry are not a superstar
My niece is an artist and was signed to a major label. She managed to get promotional work with a few companies advertising their products but the label was taking a big cut from the money she earned. She ended her contract with them when she could.
It shows no one is understanding the music industry, there is a massive amount of information of how bad the music industry is. Why don't black people learn!
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Living a humble, simple life aint so bad afterall
Ppl will do anything for fame and money; it’s honestly sad!
It never was lol
Foreals lol seems like everything is getting exposed
Truest words ever written.
At least we still have our souls!😂
Music doesn't sell, it's never been that way. They have to tour for life to maintain their lifestyle. Patti Labelle is 80 and still touring
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Basically, living above their means.
If that tour sells tickets. Because many of these concerts are being cancelled for low ticket sales.
@@Shazzyhtown Except Nicki. She made $125 Million in sales on the Pink Friday 2 tour so far.
@@OctaviaSimmons-py1if shes one of few queen.
A great point he made “THE MUSIC IS GARBAGE “ people are tired of hearing about violence, drugs, k!lling and s3x….people are desiring music that feeds the soul….
Right just overall negativity and negativity sells. If you're a positive rapper, and have the dopest bars and your Music's uplifting the industry won't hear it
@@jaysouthmusic8230 just do Gods work and spread it over the internet and elsewhere…we are moving into a time where money can’t be the top objective
And to add to that.......people don't want to give the industry credit, because all the artists want to believe the labels just STOLE from them, BUT there was something known as artist development. Somebody would sign and it would be two years until they dropped an album and that in between time was building the artists up. Seems like now, artists are signed and put out as they are. No development.
But are they willing to pay for it? Streams aren't making us money. We need to move away from that and back to paying for an album release online or physically. At least those thousand streams can turn into 1000 people paying 10$. Vs 1000 streams making less than a penny each. Cost way more to make am album
@@Ball_Hard we are moving into a time where it’s coming to an end…evil is going to become less profitable . These industries are crumbling. Spiritually will become the order of the day… those who refuse, won’t survive … start finding positive creativeness and let God do the rest…!
the biggest issue is artist want to live life like multi-millionaires when really they should live like well paid doctors or upper middle class.
Bingo and not trying to impress people by acting like they got it so big but they really don't
well a good chunk of them didn't finish high school....
Facts
@@angelofdeath275😂
Simple
The problem is everyone is trying to be famous everything is being overly saturated.
That and most ""artists"" either rap, play guitar, or ""make beats"" aka produce. Or they're really talentless and try to DJ. Rapping doesn't take that much talent and skill - compared to playing an instrument - rock 'n' roll was ruined by boomers, and the world of music production/mixing/mastering is a lot more than just dragging and dropping a generic four-on the-floor sample pack drum loop. Especially if you want to work with synths. You almost need a physics degree to truly understand what you're doing and why. On top of that, you need to know a decent amount about computers, and the equipment/tools you need and how you're going to use them. And - if you're like me and want to write songs unique to you/as original as possible - you have to know what been done before and build upon that. Usually by learning music theory. Classical, jazz (hard-bop, bebop, modal, free etc, etc.), folk, funk, New Jack Swing, Nashville country of the 50's, outlaw country of the 70's, 90's trailer trash country, blues, prog rock, psychedelic rock, glam rock - the list of styles, genres and subgenres is endless. People who try to get famous as a musical artist - especially rappers - have no idea how to develop a sustainable career. They rehash and recycle the same influences and ideas. That's why artists on Spotify get less than a penny for every play. They treat it like non-music people who tell aspiring musicians that music is not a profession, but a hobby. Most pros recognize music for what it is: the most important and true artform ever developed. It's a religion and it's an obsession. And every culture, near, far, before Christ, after Christ - has relied on music in one form or another. Without music life would be a mistake.
Agreed also the ones that haven’t been wise and invested in other projects or deals done modelling acting started a shoe deal the ones that think they’re the best and don’t need to try are very silly.
@@salmonsandwich3183No,it isn't ,we all can make melody in our heart to the Lord.This music ,especially black music has went to far,far from love.Sex,violence and drugs is not where it's at,all it's doing is depressing people.
This happened to Disco too. Oversaturation.
Prince predicted this over 20 years ago. Even Michael Jackson spoke about this in the late 90s about going independent and not sign your life away to the majors.
James Brown and Ray Charles did it decades before them. They were the first to go independent and have their own companies. James Brown owned radio stations too.
Michael was broke to
Do independent artists make more money than major label artists?
@@MW-dd8vk actually they don’t, independent artists aren’t able to tour at the same level as a artist that is or was signed to a major label.
@@JayBelafonteAnd Michael owned half of Sony. Your point? What matters is the message.
The music industry is in a decline because the singers can’t sing and the rappers can’t rap …notice how 90s R&B is still thriving despite being over 20 years old
The music industry is in decline because music is free.
@@jiggaman000and it sucks
@@jiggaman000you are all correct. The music is free and it sucks.
no. Its because of streaming and the internet. People who can sing can just upload a video on youtube and boom, the song is distributed where as back before streaming in order for a song to be heard by millions it had to be backed by major label. Music was more gatekept and only a few acts were ALLOWED in. Now the artist can build their audience withOUT the major labels and that hurts the major labels. There are many great singers whom are independent and do not get commercials or super bowl ads because they are not signed to Atlantic records or Interscope ect.
@@JAYSPLASHMUSICYep, they devalued the worth of music to essentially fuckin nothing to force the hand of more people into those slave deals
Seeing celebrities go broke is a bittersweet surprise in life. I worked as a photographer/videographer and i was shocked when certain artists couldn't even afford to pay their videographer. I quit because there were too many broke rappers 😂 but what shocked me most was female models showed dignity and actually wanted to pay for my time. Majority of rappers are renting cars for shoots. It's all fake. Nobody has money so never feel bad about yourself
Wow that's crazy
This artist years ago that was out back in the days… I mentioned his music on a page and people bought his music,… he became obsessed with me… thought I was gonna make him a millionaire. He never sent me a check.
He wanted me to mention his music every day so he could pay off his house or bills. He didn’t even promote his own music. He thought he had free PR… I just said one line and he acted like I did a whole campaign. I did neither.
This other singer in another state, commanded I send his music to a gospel artist. These middle age men trying to be an R&B singer. At my expense. I can’t like nothing or support the arts without these men catching feelings. I blocked all of them.
@@lifeisbeautiful9455😂😂😂😂😂😂 I could your disappointment through the screen
So topmodels have no money?
@@patriciavandevelde5469 some of these models have more money then these men nowadays 😂
Music has gotten worse. Artists have no talent. That's why older songs are now charting instead of newer songs, sonetimes.
Entertainment has become a Crowded stage of overrated buffoons😮
@@mondocjenson-dy8zd Music has been part of my life since I can remember. I can't remember the last day that I have not listened to music. To see how disgusting the music had gotten is heartbreaking.
@trediaz4012 There is quantity, but the quality is low... L😆L at Uber Eats effect
man yall just aint know where to look. the mainstream has always catered to the mass market. If you want somethin more tailed to your music taste you gotta work for it
The problem is rap is GARBAGE! It's NOT music. Most new singers CAN'T sing, they're auto-tuned! People are tired of wasting their money on trash. Ijs
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I’ve been telling people be careful of the music industry. 9 to 5’s are doing better than artists now
I don’t know about that either
@@HollySpiceTV at least we're free to leave.
@@JesusLovesEVERYTHINGand its guaranteed money even if the job sucks
@@xaviersmith2715 BIG ASS FACTS.
That’s always how it’s been… just didn’t have social media and RUclipsrs needing to make a buck off the concept with all the video essays
Andre 3 stacks said this 28 years ago. "I live by the beat, like you live check to check, if you don't move your feet, then I don't eat, so we like neck to neck"
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 BARSSS
That was the song Mainstream right?
No sir it’s called Elevators
Facts!!!!!
Oh shyt 🤯
I’ve always considered myself an OutKast fan, but reading this blew my mind. 3k been wise.
I don’t care abt celebrities..
@@GenZealous amen. I got punched in the face 2 weeks ago for saying this exactly 😄 and I'll say it again.
But... but... day are society's moods. Without dem dare are no emotions! 😤
@GenZealous You don't care that they have to live in a common neighborhood, drive a Lincoln and fly commercial?
@@whyjustwhy2168Wow, that’s crazy 😮
@@OctaviaSimmons-py1if mannnn it was!
The music industry has one job, and that is to corrupt the youth.
These labels would use YOUR credit score to take out $100K loan on your behalf. They take $80K to make you a $5K album using their people and their studio. The left over $20K is "your sign in bonus" which artists spend on a chain or downpayment on a car. Once the album is done, YOU must promote the album to pay back the $100K loan THEN you make 10% of sales and tickets. If you don't pay the loan back, its on YOUR credit record. This is the same as college loans, but at least you end up with a diploma with a college loan.
Signing to a label is a waste of time. They are useless. They are obsolete. Social media has made them that way. You can buy all the stuff they give you for 5k or way less. You can buy a beat machine for a 1000, audio interface, mic and Mac with recording software on it for less than a 1000. Yes, it's pricey initially but it's yours after you buy it and you can keep using it. All you have to do is get it mastered. There are many companies online that do it for you if you pay them. And they are well priced. If you want the music printed on vinyl and CDS, you can go that route but most of the time, it's not needed because most people are going to buy it digitally anyway
@@TheDumontShow noone buys music. Selling music is a dead industry, gone the way of the ringtone market. It's intentional once the media companies went into streaming and are hiding how much they make of each spin, claiming it's too hard to calculate, yet years ago they could track and charge you per text and per talk minute, remember? You hear the same 40 songs on the radio because labels bought those slots years in advance. Same with chart positions. Ever wonder how a song could debut number 1 on the billboard chart's; when noone ever heard it or it's not even on sale yet? Where is this music poll they want us to believe exists that everyone fills out weekly? The number one spot on MTV TRL was $30,000. Now labels pay Spotify to pump numbers. So if the listener isn't paying, the label is spending money, where is the money coming from? The artist. When they get a court settlement, or money from the military, Ludacris got money from living in a place that needed to be torn down for an extension to the ATL airport. Labels rather prey on people getting these large checks than sell $10 CDs. This is why people think artists sacrifice a family member, because major pushes coincide with receiving inheritance. You can make your music, but independent means you have to find completely independent avenues to profit from your work.
@@coolnoah2744The truth is alot of times the labels don't care about making money from you if they can't. They only use that point to control you so you behave. They usually use the artist to smuggle things in and out of the state or country. Because of their star power no one searches them. They're also used for money laundering, because again due to their star power no one doubts how much money they have. It's all about the optics to the label. As long as the optics are right, best believe they know how to make money outta you. You get your fame that you always dreamed of and they get their money, giving you peanuts.
When the tide goes out, you can tell who was swimming naked.
- Warren Buffett
Katt Williams was right the Gatekeepers were going down in 2024.
2024 is also an election year
@@cedricliggins7528even better
@cedricliggins7528 Honest question. What does an election year have to do with anything? I think a lot of people say that because everyone else says it. I've been hearing that my whole life
@@Doc255tbf music labels are established power, in a different lane. Labels being caught help funding the private prison industry. Real pushback against these labels will get an institutional response.
I use to think celebrities had the Life.......but i see now it ain't all what it seems.
They have it, they just overspend
@@bdove2007 yep u right
@@bdove2007I think it’s much more deeper than that. I think they have to spend that money because the label want them to keep a certain image.
@@v.w.1000 NOT ONLY THAT...IF YOU DONT SPEND. THEY WATCH YOU LIKE A HAWK.
Selling your soul for pennies!!!
They destroyed the black community with that crap anyway..
Yep ......
Exactly …made Ebonics , hypersexuality, profanity and single parenthood normal…sad
How many young men are in jail from trying to live that image
that part
And we allowed it because we're too focused on hustling and not anything else long term
Go independent and live within your means. That's what I do as a simple beat maker/producer and I live great. I make six figures selling beats from my simple website.
Thats smart
@@jaysouthmusic8230 Indeed. I checked out your music and liked what I heard. You're on the right track. My only critique is I would work on making your mixes more balanced and mastering better processed to be as crystal clear and polished as possible. If there's anything I can do to help, please just ask. I discount my beats, promos, studio time, mixing and mastering services, share tips on how to live off your music, and more. Just ask me.
That's gotdamn intelligent. You are richer than them in the long run. Independent is the best route. The equipment you bought paid for itself tenfold. They lie to the people telling them they have to go through the system to be successful.
@@jaysouthmusic8230 Indeed. I checked out your music -You're definitely on the right track. I have beats on my site I'm confident you'll like. How do I get in touch with you directly?
@@TheDumontShow All facts! And I was able to write off most of the things I purchased for my business because I incorporated it and trademarked my name/likeness, which saved/made me even more income. I learned everything first through making lots of mistakes then the remainder through the Internet. Shoot, I should probably teach classes at this point to help as many people as possible as there's nothing like making money from a job you love and don't feel like it's a job.
Y’all remember when Prince wrote slave on his face?
Yes.
We don’t care.
@@TheMeanGirlzthen why comment
@@TheMeanGirlznot our fault your broke grow up
All jobs are slave work btw
Unfortunately there's a lot of people selling their souls to get into the music industry just to be a one-hit wonder and thrown away.
Right they refuse to listen
They all had warnings oh well 🤷🏾♀️
no lol. the people you are talking about don’t know what they are doing. in order to have a viable career, an artist has to plan over the course of a few years their image, musical skills, find a good team, good entertainment lawyers etc. a record deal can take over a year to negotiate, and if your music is not good enough for a major label to give you a good deal, then you won’t stick around. a prime example of this phenomenon of not planning things is ice spice. she will simply not have label loyalty.
Condom rappers
Where exactly do they sell their souls ? Amazon?
Music died when it was taken out of school. Many of the best bands that hit it big in the 70s and 80s meet in high school. And, they learned how to play instruments. I believe that this is why music programs were removed from schools.
It's all by design.. they didn't want another Prince
Right the horns, bass and strings in 70s group was taught in schools in 60s to 70s and many met and started
Jewish/European/Asian Communities still have Music Programs because they run their Own Schools an Blackfolks don't know how too Build Community since 1492.. InsaneB'Fools..! All Industries feed off of eachother but Blackfolks are one dimensional when it comes to Business..
I never considered this… great pov.🤔
That generation is in and thriving right now theyre just re running the Gangsta Era of rap except their targeting our daughters straight up without a care.
“Castles made of sand fall in the sea eventually” - Jimi Hendrix
Everybody struggling,people want to hear things that apply to everyday life.
Remember TLC Grammy speech
They may not tell you they're broke but there will be signs. Like the ads for those scam ass bingo games where you can win "real money". Soon as I saw Cardi B and Snoop advertising that shit I knew this shit was all cap. They looking for work just like us. Finding it on scam ads is crazy though.
Noooooo👀😂
Snoop has 10,000 jobs.. the only way he's broke is if he's spending a bunch of money
Backstreet Boys do the dishwasher liquid commercial lol
Stop it 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣
They could probably live comfortably if they weren't trying to live a lavish lifestyle also. Like if they were living a regular life they could be comfortable but they chasing the Kardashian extravagant life.
I knew it was getting hard when I started seeing celebrities create RUclips Channels. The lines have been blurred in terms of regular folks and celebrities. I don't know who belongs in which group anymore.
Yesss great observation!
They're human beings just like us.. I remember going to a trey songz concert and everybody screaming, going crazy.. I just couldn't understand it
🤣
❤!!!!
It's theirtube now..
Let’s be real, it’s hip hop music that’s dying. Thats why there’s so many artists crossing/switching genres. Country and pop still rake in the money
It would be interesting if hard times brought the blues back, honest people struggling music
Hip Hop is *not* the only genre that's dying R&B music and Rock music is also dying. If the record labels would get some real talented artists in this decade and stop being lazy this would've never happened. I feel like they should bring funk music back because a lot of ppl enjoyed funk muisc when Bruno Mars was putting funk music.
Hip hop isn't dying, it's the fake lifestyle that's dying. Real recognize real.
The rule of music is to make money selling tickets to live events. Rap has historically been poor at selling concert tickets. Whites call it a bar and blacks call it a club so in white translation rappers are just bar acts at best.
@@off6848 Blues is still around. There are artists such as Eric Gales and Kingfish. The top acts are white such as Joe Bonamassa, Beth Hart and Samantha Fish. Beth Hart makes most of her money outside the U.S.and is fairly well known. Joe Bonamassa has more number one blues albums than any blues artist. Looks aren't important in blues because acts such as Joanna Conner exist.
Kendrick made an entire album about this called To Pimp a Butterfly
For clarification, MC Hammer did NOT go broke nor is broke. He filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy reorganization. He did extremely well investing the bulk of his wealth, but had too many people on his payroll, me included. I was his roommate from the military and still friends. My personal experience.
So what was your job tieing his shoe laces carrying his luggage ironing his parachute pants?
@@Cogic My Grandpa n Hammer toured to Russia together they made a movie about it and how it restored world peace look it up mc hammer in Russia
He was trying to help to many people from oakland it almost hurt himself helping all yall. But nice that your apart of Oakland or Hip Hop history
@@Cogic Music Producer.
@@FatherWithDon Thanks, fam!🔥
In the early 2000s the labels got rid of a bunch of people after Napster and limewire came about. Everyone stopped buying music and there was no streaming
I remember that
That's When The Decline Started.
That’s what they wanted to happen. Streaming started now they can have control over who’s putting what out. You can’t control Products like CDs
There are ways @@thebucketmanj8525
The artist cried about used CDs back in the day. They hated used Cds being sold and they didn't get their cut.
Rick Ross is rich because of endorsements and investments. You're not going to be that rich just off music unless you're touring like Beyonce and Taylor Swift.
Right that's why music experts encourage artists to look at other avenues outside of music to make money in and invest
He’s rich because he gave up his cheeks to diddy lol
At the time, Beyonce made as much money from the Pepsi contract as she did her whole music career up to that point.
@@jasonjr376 where's the proof??
Music industry in its OLD FORM is dying. It will benefit true artists in the longrun but there will no longer be superstars
“None of these songs that came out in recent years will be classics.” FACTS!!!
Exactly 💯
Caught Out In The Rain by Beth Hart is a classic among figure skaters. Bang Bang Boom Boom by Beth Hart was translated into Vietnamese and it became popular there. There just won't be any household songs because there is no music culture where people hang out to listen to new acts. People are at home listening to whatever they found on the internet.
When I saw beyonce selling shampoo and liquor I was like wtf😂
I understand she is a billionaire...
But it's a reason why she is tapping into so many markets
If Bey just had a more normal house, less cars and modified version of her lifestyle she wouldn't have to do all that lol 😂❤🙈🤷♀️
Do you comprehend that black people only make up 13 % of the population, but black hair are sales are billion dollar industry? It is very smart to sell black hair care - Asians figured this out decades ago. I get that you were throwing shade, but we are ignoring actual money being made due to us , and these people are not even black.
Of course. Because hair products and alcohol always sell. Women are always doing their hair and somebody is always getting drunk lol.
@@Shazzyhtownwomen drink more than men nowadays
You're right. She has to venture. She has no choice😂
Is this why rappers are coming out w snacks and noodles? They not making enough? Lol😂
😅😅😅 yup all rappers got chips and 🍜 now
@@dionneking8 😆😆😆 I saw them at my work and thought "dam, times must be tough"
Yall laughing at ppl that's using their image and celebrity to get money in different areas 🤦🏾♂️ yall ignorant
Alot of us only to old school music because the new music is not about thing like he said killing and robbing and dis respect I notice young people listening to old
I wish my face was on chips or noodles
We definitely need a reset in music culture, this garbage nowadays isn't even music and is barely audible. Where are the instruments that used to make songs what they were, and the musicians whose words u can't stop singing and whose music just fills your soul.. long gone are they days of real music, r.i.p. rnb, rap, soul, jazz, hip hop, reggae, country, latin, etc..
Country is dominating sales wise while rap and other genres are dying.
You clearly just aren’t even trying to find good music if this is how you feel. It is not hard to find genuinely good music that is made with passion and soul.
Nor is it hard to find music that is made with real instruments and no auto tune. Cause it sounds like the only place you’re looking for “real music” is whatever is on Billboards Top 10 Songs of Week.
@@LimosaNostra_ AfroBeatz is growing....
@@LimosaNostra_ It's not Country though. It's LA producers in Nashville putting out rural pop and R&B for people who are scared of black people.
It was over for all music when the "album sale equivalent" became a thing with streaming.
@@anthonyrowland9072 also, independent country music is huge right now with people like uphurch. As far as the mainstream goes you can call it “pop” but it’s still country and it’s crushing every other genre. You sound kinda salty that White culture and music is winning right now and negative trash black culture is in the decline.
Humanitarians will be the new celebrities. The capricorn era that focused on materialism and the pisces age that was about money, power, and control is over. Aquarian age is about humanitarian work and will force people to question the works of celebrities and what they’re doing for their communities. Welcome to the shift.
Thank you for such an enlightening comment. I’ve been patiently awaiting the shift. I am ready and willing to serve humanity’s tired poor and hungry!
I been ready for it.
Wow
What do you mean. I’m asking genuinly what Aquarius shift? And how many are there
Aquarius era goes after Pisces in this concept tho, just saying
The whole world needs a reboot
@@kyvsthewrldexactly, the reset that us coming , no one wants
i hope a new generation of artists come out that reinvigorate real art within the music.
The comment I was looking for 😎
Go underground... Curren$y, Larry June. Alchemist cardo. Check out the bay area
@@DemareuaPope heard of them 🔥🔥,
@@CardoLoot can't go wrong... 😎
i hope so too
Bro the point you made at the end about no classics being produced anymore is so spot on. It’s not much music I can think of in the last 10-15 years that’ll be considered timeless like some old school hits that still get spins today. 💯
You've never heard the "elements mixtapes" by b.o.b?😢
@@InflationProof28 I said “not much music”. Obviously there’s some bright spots here and there. That being said B.O.B as an artist has never been my cup of tea
Fetty WAP got classics to me. So ironic lol
There are many songs 5-10 years old that people bump once in a while. Especially if you have a memory when it came out.
@@porkerpete7722 That is not a classic - a classic is something 2 to 3 generations love and that they play for 50-plus years.
I read a book a decade ago about how the music business worked. I never looked at any artist the same: it is all a facade, if you do want to do music do it independently
Name the book
high achievers are typically very intelligent, especially when they know how to pick the right people and how to present themselves. this is very serious work, and most artists have to have some sort of understanding of music business, or they won’t live comfortably after retiring, let alone have a good career. it just means they know what they are doing, and have the foresight to say “i need to make this decision on xyz.” years before they start making music professionally. most people start working on their skills before they even graduate high school.
@@XANSEM Donald S. Passman
All You Need to Know About the Music Business
@@KodiakWG great book btw
It all depends on the lifestyle you choose to live. It is very hard to maintain a life owning expensive cars and Mansions etc. All that comes with also paying high taxes.
Right the higher the lifestyle the higher the taxes
factssssss
Let them eat their gold teeth.
Celebrities became a plague.
The tickets cost too damn much
Blame Live nation.
Yeah that’s not really the artist fault… live nation be buying back they OWN tickets and putting them on resale sites… not to mention individual scalpers using bots and reselling too…
Used to LOVE going to concerts, but I don’t care to attend concerts any more due to the high ass ticket prices…
Some say it’s capitalism, majority say it’s greed 🤷♂️… It’s all gonna make the shit collapse forreal… just a matter of time
It all costs too much when the tickets 60 bucks $40 to park $20 in gas $30 in food $50 for a t-shirt then yeah people are going to stop coming the way the world is today I can't afford to throw away that kind of money on a show let alone someone has come out in the last couple years with a hit song
Right tickets use to be cheap now they so expensive like one ticket equals a light bill or water bill or utility bill these days
And they can’t perform
They starting to do podcast too
Yup that too
The retired athlete podcasts are getting annoying 😂
@@TM-nb9zf they don’t know how to work a normal job after making money having fun for a living
@@TM-nb9zfI like the retired athlete podcasts tho. They give good insight. It’s what the sports world need. It’s been way many people who don’t play sports putting they two cents in for a long time. It got to stop
Yes they trying to move regular people out the way they every dang where
Artist been getting pimped for ages it's the name of the game the music industry is a sham ..🤷
exactly
You what they tell them broke rappers stand up like a race horse or you be a replace horse
Can't believe the state of the music industry today...that dream has died. If u aren't making music just based on passion, there's no need to expect being able to support yourself....sad
it is very sad, if you have a talent you should be fairly compensated for the unique gift you bring to the world, instead you get a bunch of talentless leeches who suck you dry because that's the only way they'll ever thrive in this world.
hip hop culture been trash for the last decade let it crumble we need to start over.
It's an easy way to launder drug money. Every person busted selling drugs is a rapper and the IRS can't tell the difference between a real rapper and a fake rapper.
I knew it - they all broke! They only make money is at concerts
exactly and once C-19 hit they couldn't do shows for two years
And if some artists were smart, they also make investments outside of music for financial Stability
@@jaysouthmusic8230 More people should follow Jimmy Buffet. He had one very popular song and turned it into a billion dollar empire.
All of those movies about artists and groups that didn’t make money except for touring and folks are still surprised that folks don’t make money except for touring 😅 Did folks not watch Sparkle? The Temptations? Dreamgirls? It’s never been a secret and the music industry has never been ashamed. SMH
…….Why Do Fools Fall in Love!
I watched the new edition story, And when the group were young,They got screwed over alot, Even when they went on tour. The heart break album and everything else after was when New Edition started making money.
Of course, It's been a while since I have seen the movie so please correct me if I'm wrong.
And it’s always stole money from the artists. Hell Elvis Presley was BROKE when he died. His ex wife created Grace land to get him out to debt. And when the artist finally get their masters they end up dead 😵
they're so broke they can't afford batteries for their smoke detectors!
But in a hurry to cam up and babble tho😮
This. The crap is embarrassing
That be black ppl thang
BEEP
What's so embarrassing about it lol@@wheelofcheese100
Celebrities will cease to exist, finally!
people who are celebrated have existed since civilization was created
Celebrities will exist, but not as household names. They may have 10 million followers on RUclips or Twitch and that's what a modern celebrity will look like.
Imagine selling your soul and the music still flops
Music industry is oversaturated like anything else
Japan still sells cd's and vinyl's. Here in Europe the sell of vinyl is getting popularity.
Word
Cassettes as well. Griselda Records made me aware of that.
Yeah, there’s a whole world outside of the U.S. there’s a lot of money in other countries. There’s no celebrity worship in a lot of these places, they just want to hear good music.
That’s broke people music!🎶 💯🎯
So Lil Dicky was trying to warn them all with $ave Dat Money, huh?
😂😂I still love that song. He wasn’t lying about the facade of the music videos.
Time is running out. There's no time to develop artists because Satan needs to fill his quota of souls
dayum
He's beyond his quota. Most people in the world will end up in hell. The world needs to end soon
The only people I dont see complaining about streaming is the independent artists. 🤷🏿
Exactly
Because they don't want to go get the real money. Sitting in the bedroom pumping money on RUclips isn't going to make them money.
They stopped focusing on pure talent
And started going after "a look"
Now they all sound the same
And look the same
Not that I don't think all artists should be paid fairly for their work… But wouldn't it be nice if the people that became musicians did it because they actually loved music so much and felt they truly had a gift to share with the world… Rather than trying to think of how they can get rich and famous, regardless of talent or skill?
The fact that Diddy just offered to put up his houses worth 50 million says alot. He doesn't have that kind of "cash" or money in his bank account. Its smoking mirrors.
Smoke and mirrors 🤦🏿
Exactly!
Tupac never had a bank account.
Money was just giving to him.
Too easy to pay an accountant to manage their money.
Financial literacy!!!
You need collateral for the amount of money it would have cost for him to get out. They don't take large sums of cash. They need assets. Doesn't mean he's not broke, but it was basically mandatory for him to be released if it were to be granted.
Yea because it made no sense to me for him to be willing to pit up the cash house rich and cash poor
Cash poor period
Celebrities have spending problems with drug addiction and fake lifestyle. The record deal is debt and Americans love debt then complain about bills and being broke.
Poor people getting instant money has rarely turned out well.
There was an MTV special years ago and it talking about rappers breaking down the math of how they get paid. They all said you're broke unless you're touring.
Celebrities are there for the beneift of who? Not the fans, not the artist, then who? Think about it. Its an agenda.
The artists getting laid off from the labels are actually being blessed because 9 times out of 10 they were in some fckd up contract
Well music industry kinda started falling out due to the mass amount of people making “Tiktok/Reels” music (this is a new category of music aka “quick popularity trend music” and 2nd many big artist are just getting jailed or being put in court. Plus w the markets going on…it’s pretty hard to invest in music actually. Also it does not help most music is only available through streaming. I remember the days when you had to pass out CDs, mixtapes and shit. Now you just need social media or algo to do its part
A lot don't own their music.
@@PoorMansAlmanacNews that’s what you think! SIGNING LABELS technically doesn’t make you own it unless yoi have the masters or mainly the produce exec (you do the reduction for music basically) Big example is the Taylor Swift getting all her masters to release her own rendition or Frank Ocean vs Apple Music? (the biggest case in music) as someone that actually did study music arts, you’d be surprised how much people can do better independently than sign a labeland in the black community especially, niqqas are NOT READING the fine print. They kinda deserve it tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@PoorMansAlmanacNews a lot don’t own, and they’re owned by a label. And what’s worse is that so much money is in the air bc of unclaimed royalties and licensing fees
@@trxxblx-wxs-hxrx True. When there's that much going on it's not because people didn't want to claim money though; the industry was doing underhanded sh*t linked to other crimes and it's catching up to people.
There is no creativity. That's the problem.
Bingo
Correct
Either you got creativity or the money it’s very hard to have both. So in reality most times there where always be someone with the capital to take most of the profits of your creativity. But those who have the capital take all the risks if you go bust. So is it really wrong for a capitalist to try to protect their investments as much as possible?
But even when they had talented singers they robbed them. It's said Sam Cooke's business manager set him up, his family has all of Sam's royalties, Jackie Wilson was beaten up by mafia as he paid them for protection etc. They died broke, even elvis barely had no money. Maybe that's why there aren't talented artists in the mainstream now, behind the scenes but they're making money in different ways. No one cares about talent
Not true.
They just don’t put out any good music, it sucks snd they sign bad deals.
Good music comes out, most people just dont support it or know it exists and only listen to the big name clowns.
Maybe sign artist that are not just rap or hip hop, there used to be a lot of variety now all the new artists have the same sound, every song is the same, just loud noise.
The problem is that all the real American musicians have been killed off.
Just like Tiny Tim.
Sports is next to fall. America as a whole is done. Time of the gentile is complete. Over. Judgement is here
I have been saying the same thing.
Amen.. it's about time..
@JesusLovesEVERYTHING why do u want things to fail ? Because u didn't go for ur dreams? Yall mad 😂😂
@@Unknownhere12678NBA audience has cut in half in the last 7 years. ESPN,fs1 too
@@Unknownhere12678 Nobody should ever laugh at somebody's downfall. 😅
Good. Let them go broke.
These artist live off of loans, debt, and borrowed money. If the very top artist end up broke that lets you know what the smaller artist are truly earning! Ppl better create a business, gain a skillset, or develop a talent otherwise you will be broke like everyone else!
I love writing and recording and I’m really good at it but I haven’t wanted to be a performing artist in years and years. I’m heading towards sync licensing because it kills two birds with one stone. My desire to be famous as a young kid came from being insecure with myself and once I got older and got rooted in my own authenticity I was able to see how it wasn’t what I really wanted. Then I got privy to some experiences that scared me or opened my eyes to how I was being protected by being rejected - in spaces with some individuals who are currently in the news for weird shit rn lol - but I think this is all just making space for some new and authentic music and artists. The facades are dropping and I’m glad to see it crumble. It’s about damn time.
I could remember 1994 when everything tanked. Yeah! 1994. That's when radio stations had to become creative. Just do your history. We got Classic Soul, Hip Hop and Alternate, because the talent was just not there. So they had to pump up Beyonce and Usher.
The Internet really didn't have nothing to do with this. At least in the beginning.
The music industry has been hanging on ever since.
Instead of 30 amazing singers in the 1980s, in the 90s we got maybe 3.
Madonna wouldn't have survived in the 1970s. As well as New Edition and New Kids On the Block.
But when you lower the standards in the 1980s, you get the 1990s and beyond.
I can go on and on.
You got a point. Quality wise decade on decade for mainstream music ( across all genres ) has experienced an obvious decline
@@Alan_GA I'm a musician and I was in my late teens and early twenties in the eighties and I just hated some of the music of that decade. Trite and silly pop songs with cloudy sonic characteristics and excessive amounts of reverb defined the decade. I precipitated the eventuality of where the music scene would be today back in the 80's.
@@kennyblackbird5674 The creative side was definitely the technology of that period. Technology had advanced quite a bit in the 1980s. That's definitely allow not so great artists shine in the lame light with more talent. And because of these technologies we got genres that would never have been possible before this time.
You can enhance voices and make them sound better with a push of the button. Now we got auto tunes that resemble that era.
But it is doesn't replace real talent. The people who can actually sing, play instruments and move the crowd. However, sound really is the larger share of why people by songs. If the sound production is stellar, the artist doesn't have to be overwhelming good.
I think and believe that the reason Madonna became so successful is because not only did advanced technology afforded it to be possible, considering she's admitted that she can't sing but can market herself, which is sex, she was indeed well marketed and had a powerful management. The Jackson 5 in the 70's did that Bubble gum pop music and it worked for them. I hear that similar sound in New Edition, when they came out in the 80's. Considering they would have had big competition in the 70's, I could see how it would have been hard for them to survive.
Well it’s obvious when now Diddy is being finished.
Exactly
I feel like it’s a domino effect
Now that I think about it, where’s the money he has gonna go?🤔 maybe that’s the real reason he’s getting booked now and not when these “rumors” started.
"Broke people music," Preach, young brother
Signing with these labels is you giving them permission to sacrifice you when needed
The Drake Kendrick future beef was a huge indicator. They whole industry got off they ass to pay them bills.
I’m canceling all my subscription. Been collecting cds for a while now
Spotify AIN'T paying no one but Spotify! If most bands, singers and rappers took their music off it, it would be done. You're paying for convenience.
U kno who not laying off engineering, electricians, HVAC,biologist, scientist especially if ur an American
Does this indicate a return exodus back to the college campus?! I've been contemplating this. I'm mature aged.
@@CreativeLion2314 Do it.
Nurses too. That’s why I’m a nurse
Just another scam
Well spoken
The music industry is a bunch of movies, the only movies where the lead roles (artists) sign into debt vs profit. You're given a script/themes, an image, and are responsible for a lot of executives money, you're just an actor. Only difference is actors actually make at least a BIT more real money.
It takes so many hands to make shit possible that’s why. After shit get buss down between 1000 hands how much profit is really left for the artists. Even the movies gotta buss down 100s of millions between 1000s of people and businesses.
@@ToniTruthArt I agree, that's my point. However imagine. . .. a Brad Pitt being signed to 3 movies, and having to recoupe 5-6x and never be able to get out of it or work on other movies. It's still really backwards.
A Lot of This is Due to the Economy! Ppl Are Losing Their Jobs, Living in Their Cars, Can’t Afford Groceries. This is Not Surprising
I think this speaks to a general trend across the board, tbh. I like the part where you mentioned how labels aren't doing artist development anymore. You can see the same thing in other sectors. I mean, look at Boeing, for example. Their name was synonymous with reliability and they had standards. They dreamt of things and they invested in research and their top engineers. I don't think I have to mention their reputation now. I don't know anyone who wants to get on a Boeing plane, lol. I think we're getting to a point where (or maybe we've already gotten there) where the people in charge of organizations are just too cynical to dream anymore. They wanna maximize their own wealth first and then worry about whether they're going to have some legacy that will revolutionize things that people will care about second. That attitude trickles down and I think that's why things just feel so stagnant for people right now (not just musically, but everywhere)
I actually think rappers going into other avenues of business (products, restaurants, content creation, etc.) is a VERY wise decision! The artists are simply diversifying their ways of building wealth, there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that. But why didn't you talk about your music towards the end of the video like you mentioned you would? Since you discussed the other musicians, I would have liked to hear about how your music is going for you? And what kind of money you've made from it? That would've been helpful to hear :)
I don't see it as a bad thing either, i'm all about diversification and having multiple streams of income. They can use their influence and personal brand to bring in revenue from multiple different business endeavors as long as they're business minded or have a great team involved.
All of the so called "artists & creatives" can slide off the 🌎. Not adding value & won't be missed 🎉
The black music industry went bust in the 80s. From there, is when the decline occured. It wasn't just rap, it included R&B.
How the hell does Usher and Drake ever become so famous?
I know more about Usher than Drake, I don't follow rap.
Usher made it as an "actor" and dancer which was used as leverage for his music career.
When Tupac and Biggie was out, we got Jarule and Jennifer Lopez.
Even white acts aren't as talented as they use to be. Particularly Rock n Roll. Top 40 is dead with the 80s.
That's why they're pushing country as a comeback genre, because they simply ran out of talent in the RNR genre.
It isn't just the music, it is producers and directors of TV shows. The talent isn't there. The money to produce this talent is spent on wars and population control.
All matters of a declining society.
"All matters of a declining society ".... exactly. That's the bigger picture.
Beth Hart, Starcrawler, The Warning, ZZ Ward, Samantha Fish, Eric Gales, Joe Bonamassa, Southern Avenue and Angelina Jordan are current talent. people just have to stumble on the acts because there is no MTV to spoon feed them music.
celebs are just bad with money. why you gotta have 3 homes and take care of your whole family? not to mention they sign the worst deals. theres money in music you have to do it yourself though
Right like one house is enough and the material things they spend money on dumb stuff to impress people
People nowadays don't have discretionary income to spend on shitty music.
Well when your money goes to fake jewelry, fast cars and only "renting" big houses, with no financial investments, might be a big big problem.
People have to realize it's never personal with Business it's always Business with Business
I LOVE that ppl are actually waking up ⏰
So glad I never succeeded as a recording/performing artist, songwriter. All I have for my efforts of the last 40 years is a storage unit full of guitars, keyboards, drum sets, p.a. equipment, about 300+ songs on my computer that I wrote, recorded and produced, and a job with my name on my shirt. Well, I also have developed a solid forex trading career which is going to support me when I retire, sometime soon, and my integrity is still intact. I’m good.
Same here. No regrets. I loved it and still love making music
Y'all the real ones because most people who made it don't really like music, they did it for the lifestyle. If anyone comes out with music now, it has to be something good because there's no money to be made. It's a lot of pressure to mold your creativity based on what others like. Like me, I love giving massages.. but I don't wanna give 9 massages within 8 hour period. Ain't gonna do nothing but tire and burn me out. God gave us talents to share with the world freely to inspire and spread love. The love of money has really fucked up the talent industry and all the things that make us happy. Even now with doctors/ lawyers.. I feel a big portion of those who chase after that do it for the money and don't care about helping this system bring justice or help save lives.
Great job!!
An artist with a label is a pro . An artist with the A, B, C and D plans is the genius of his city lol.
celebrity broke is not average person broke people 😂
I felt this was the case... I look at some of those old legends, -like Diana Ross, Patti Labelle and Gladys Knight, Smoky Robinson to name a few. Those old folks are still "touring" and out on the road. Sure, they like the attention but when you are in your 80s and as long as they have been performing 50 to 60 years. You aren't out there for that reason but for only one - MONEY! They have to work to live!
Been saying this for years. Dude's correct.
These artists supposed to be making the money back off of album sells, concerts and advertisements. But these days those bags are extremely hard to get! Artists in the game today will not benefit from owning their masters. These artist do not make enough to benefit from their masters at all. If you not MIchael Jackson or Prince you do not get benefits in the music industry. These artist are not even as talented as artists from 10-20 years ago.
Even established rock and pop singers are selling half or whole catalogues to Hipgnosis and other licensing companies. They are ca$hing out!! They'd rather have $50 to 200 million cash upfront from selling their whole catalogue...
There is plenty artist as talented as 10-20 ago, they just get 10-20x less exposure than these artist back then. Like there's no reason to why Anderson. Paak, Lucky Daye, Steve Lacy, Kaytranada, JID or Denzel Curry are not a superstar
My niece is an artist and was signed to a major label. She managed to get promotional work with a few companies advertising their products but the label was taking a big cut from the money she earned. She ended her contract with them when she could.
Prince was the trailblazer trying to stop his record label. I think he managed in the end.
And now, he pretends that he is Prince's heretofore sister, Tamika.
Knock it off, Prince.
Why are all the good musicians whacko?
It shows no one is understanding the music industry, there is a massive amount of information of how bad the music industry is. Why don't black people learn!