CJ " We already sent 80 cartons to Clem, I mean Mr. Rollins" The little things on this show is awesome. How CJ used that line into making Republicans thinks they are being buddies with the person who is going after them...Brilliant
"You have ask the Congress that." And how Leo smiled seeing C.J deliver that nicely wrapped bait to the Republicans in the House of Representatives... Magnificent delivery by Allison Jenney.
I always felt like this moment... this conversation with Leo... is what led to the "only one name" moment later in the series, and CJ becoming Chief of Staff.
I think one of the reasons Leo may have picked CJ to replace him as COS was that she saw the big picture of how to get things done and not just the small picture.
And that's why I loved this show ... they never held back from giving CJ hard hitting, back handed, brilliantly worked strategy tools to solve a problem when it looks like she's cornered. They were never afraid of giving a lead woman nasty, hard, brilliant lines and she read them, played them, pulled out all stops to be the amazing character - it was fast paced, ironic, sarcasm handled brilliantly.
CJ was one of the best characters. She’d spent years doing Hollywood PR so she knew all the dirty tricks and she knew exactly how things would be portrayed.
Everybody's rightfully praising CJ's dialogue, but I'm marveling at the fact that CJ pulled Leo by the hand into a quiet room. That's trust and urgency and conviction and all sorts of important emotions right there without uttering a single word.
C.J. telling Leo: "We need to be investigated by someone who wants to kill us just to watch us die," always sends a chill down my spine due to how perfect Allison Janney's line reading is.
It's crazy how brilliant Allison Janney was throughout the series and especially to be brilliant in this complicated role is the testament to the fact why she's one of our greats
She’s So Damn Good! Fact: Young women took a defined interest in politics because of not only this show, but Allison Janney’s portrayal of CJ Cregg. It’s October 2024, and I want a woman President in my White House.💙🇺🇸
I always wondered about that incongruity. Like... you wanted a bloodthirsty investigator and now youre saying hes a good guy and doesnt foam at the mouth?
@@partyguy101ify it’s common in shows with high, world-altering stakes that they’re afraid to let things diverge from the real word too much. Another example is the argument over whether to use soft money for the re-elect campaign when there was a multi-episode arc in season one where they banned soft money.
One more thing. I really love the intelligent political discourse on these threads. Every Democrat should watch the West Wing. After 25 years, we still can’t get enough.❤
This video leaves out some of the other things that CJ did like get the press to find a paper and the special prosecutor and Oliver published together. This was a whole story for her in this episode.
Sad for the time when Republicans were “well respected, deliberate and take (their) duties seriously, want to get the truth and want to avoid any appearance of impropriety” 🙃
I declare that I am a very sad person in that I love this programme in an unhealthy way. I have all the series on dvd, I have watched them all sequentially and back from the end again to the first show, several times! It is totally addictive, completely brilliant and almost better than Shakespeare. I feel deeply saddened when people say Breaking Bad is the best thing ever on TV, clearly they have never seen TWW...
Breaking Bad was magnificent in a very different way. They are both best in genre. I've watched both, full series, multiple times. Always satisfying. Cheers.
Nah, I respect your opinion, but I would say this is Ravenclaw or a Hermione-esque Gryffindor. The second mostly because of things she does in the rest of the series. Like the thing with Saudi Arabia, the environmental report ahead and Leo got into it over, the mad cow stuff etc. Don't get me wrong, I see how this would be taken that way, but C.J. even uses deviousness to serve the greater good and not just for personal gain. That's just my opinion though.
@@Sarah-jd9it Slytherin aren't inevitably in it for personal gain, even though ambition is associated with them. It's mostly about the ruthlessness and cunning.
@@ErisRising Again, I respect your opinion. I just disagree. Most examples of Slytherin cunning I have seen are about CYA and then if possible get your friends back. Snape is a primary example to the opposite, but I will say I pretty much hated Snape for his treatment of some of the children in his care. We are allowed to differ in opinion though and I will just say that this was obviously a thought provoking comment...at least for me.
CJ: What do Republicans say about Clem Rollins? Ainsley: He's well respected, he's deliberate, he takes his duties seriously, he wants to get at the truth and he wants to avoid any appearance of impropriety or partisanship God, the show was fucking psychic
@@angusperson4222 I think the comment was about former Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his (overly-cautious) investigation of the Trump campaign's connections with Russia and the Kremlin.
It occurs to me, after CJ grabbed his hand, Leo spoke with Jed sometime after and said "you know, if I'm ever hit by a bus, CJ is right for the job". As in. CJ, just here, passed a job interview she didn't know she was having.
@@ashwinoashwin I think it happened Season 6 - Third-day story. Leo had a heart attack at Camp David, at some point he was found. Bartlet needed a chief of staff, Leo was no longer fit and recommended only one person - C.J. Later in the episode Bartlet asks C.J. to "Jump off a cliff", the same thing he asked of Leo.
I think the inspiration for this scene is otto von Bismarck. It's like how bismarck needed someone who can humiliate the entire german people to goad the south german states into war. An enemy who was already hated by all german people, an enemy they can win on their own but can portray as it was due to unity among the German states. An enemy that had just recently occupied parts of german land, and tried to suppress the German language. An enemy like France.
The cast of series regulars was full, so she Procter only ever a guest star on the show, which made it easy for her to be scooped up by CSI: Miami. Aaron Sorkin has actually gone on record saying that he regrets not pushing to make her a regular despite there not technically being an opening for a new one.
She was good. The only thing i didn't like was that "quirk" of her being obsessed with food. It always came across as contrived and out of place. But i really liked her.
The actor who played Ainsley is an example of how no matter how minor a character is on TWW, casting is important and their script gets special care. She was a brilliant character. She was so right for the part.
Which she did, but this shows how new Babbish was to the White House. Tribbey would have went into CJ's office, looked at her across the desk, and asked, "You ready to play hardball?"
I always hated this. I know why she’s doing it but I still hate it. They finally have someone who just wants to do the job right and nobody likes it because it’s not good politics. This is the problem today everyone is fighting instead of just trying to do a good job.
Hate to tell you this mate but, speaking as someone with a Bachelors degree in political science, a fascination with the history of the American government, and a few years working within state-level bureaucracy, it’s always been this way.
As we saw with the ten Republican Senators who voted to impeach Trump, Ainsley wouldn't do so well today. And that's a sad fact when people put their party before blind partisanship to defend a vile racist with dementia just to preserve their position.
I love it when CJ's trying to throw him off with the "the average number of men who wear ladies underwear compared to the number of presidents we've had" because she's just irked she has to be question to begin with, and Babbish with the completely deadpan expression "CJ. In my entire life, I've never found anything charming."
Let me say this - if someone exists like C.J. Craig...and she becomes a salesperson for a corporation, expect her to gain the 'Top Salesperson of the Year' award every single year.
Damn! I wanted to see C.J. flip the top off her bottle of beer and say, "Come and get us," while looking at the guy who's talking on the TV. The best line in that last scene. Why can I not find it ANYWHERE on RUclips?????
Because a long slow investigation can logjam everything else you're trying to do, for potentially years on end. Part of why the last administration wanted to rush things through so they could try to move past them.
@Leo Peridot Sigh. It is plain to see that the accusation that Trump promotes White Supremacy is groundless. You've been fed a lie. A big, vicious, dangerous lie. I won't argue about it, either.
Even stronger now than when you first commented. President Trump's numbers are going up and all he had to do was declassify a phone call while the Democrats screech in rage.
@@jerrybobteasdale Trump doesn't promote white supremacy. He uses it, channels it. He gives the white supremacists just enough slack that they think he's on their side, without actually saying so; so they'll vote for him. It's actually a pretty cunning con. Which is the only thing he was ever any good at.
Don't worry. Basically, here C.J. demonstrates how you can turn any situation to your own advantage. In this case, it's a matter of picking your enemy carefully. If the White House's enemy is someone that the American people love, then the people will hate the White House in comparison. But in setting the White House against an enemy the public hates, the people will root for the White House. So in choosing the enemy, C.J. can shape public perception. It's really clever :)
+Griffin O'sullivan - You are not dense. Aaron Sorkin throws so much fast paced dialogue and so many ideas at us that it hard for anyone to get a quick handle on it. And, the great ensemble cast has always been great at delivering his script. I agree with Michelle's interpretation.
+Michelle P. Foster The look Leo gives CJ at the briefing as he is watching her jerk the press around makes me think that this is when he started thinking she might be able to do the Chief of Staff job.
@Watersmith53 Absolutely no one argues against that the show went down in quality after season 4 with Sorkin & Schlamme's departure. John Wells, whose job it then became to run the show for 3 more years, openly admits this, because the initial run was historic television (literally, it was the first drama ever to win the Emmy for best show each of its first 4 seasons). I've literally never spoken to another fan who doesn't qualify season 5 as the worst (though funnily enough it did have a handful of great individual episodes, in particular "The Supremes", just also lots of awful ones), but that both season 6 and 7, while clearly still not reaching close to Sorkin heights, were a significant improvement and still better than 80% of the rest of general television. you're sincerely the only person I've ever seen say that season7 was "horrible".
Subpoenas are not a tool "to determine the scope of an inquiry." Subpoenas are a tool to obtain information that may be relevant to the subject matter of an action or inquiry. Big difference.
Pablo Look at you. It's embarrassing. In about four, maybe five years, the GOP will have moved on to their next sleazy demogogue and not one of you will be brave enough to admit you ever supported Trump. It's a political process that's happened many times before.
@@luqas99 oh so Joe Biden et al won in 2020 due to rational policy ideas and not "orange Hitler white supremacist bad, responsible for all COVID deaths"? That's demagoguery
"He doesn't hate us." "That's just cause he doesn't know us." LOL Reminds me of Farscape: "No one knows you here. It's only the people who know you, who want you dead!"
This decision more than likely allowed the Bartlet White House to go through this relatively unscathed, and helped Bartlet beat up Lionel Richie in November
The irony here is that it was the House investigation that ultimately set its sights on Leo and his substance abuse problem; leading Bartlett to accept a censure in order to spare Leo from further humiliation. CJ’s plan backfired, big time.
no. it allowed them to speed up the time table and get it over with. they would have had to wait until the special prosecutor then wait for the house to draw up articles of impeachment. that constantly open wound would have killed him politically.
This was actually a horrible political move. If it hadn’t been for one decent man (who had a thing for Donna) Leo’s entire history of drug and alcohol abuse would have been dragged into the open. C.J. came close to destroying the administration. I’m just saying.
Can anyone tell me which episode of the West Wing this is from. I want to watch the whole episode. The White House counsel refers to CJ using one of his aides to get this done and I guess he means Ainsley Hayes. I do not recall seeing any scene where Hayes was used to do this, so I want to see that.
In fiction, the House had to be baited to go after a President that had done wrong. In reality, the House charged in headlong after a President that they just don't like.
Well, if you binged the series in one sitting, and did a drinking game for every time Josh was called by a feminine name, beaten up vocally by CJ, or outsmarted by Donna...you'd be dead.
+cooldude333 Because the President lied about having a degenerative neurological illness.... there was going to be a fight no matter what, at least in this situation CJ gets to control the spin, and the White House can help control the direction of the fight.
+aali “Aalikane” kane - Yes. Oliver was generally right in most of the advice he gave the First Family. But, in this case, CJ was right. For several years we had the privilege of seeing a great ensemble cast deliver great dialogue. The shows were more like well produced movies than a TV show (especially TWO CATHEDRALS).
Well as a full blooded man I would naturally be intrigued and hopeful, but the moment CJ opens her mouth and talks like this to me, I'd ask for her hand in marriage.
I've died and gone to Heaven, in fact all you'd hear from me is an enthusiastic "YES PLEASE" at least until CJ started talking politics. Alison Janney is an awesome actress as well as exeptionally attractive. For my money she was THE best of the ensemble cast with the possible exception of Martin Sheen himself. In truth TWW remains my all time favourite series and I deeply regret that almost nothing on TV has been so intelligently written, superbly shot and perfectly acted since. I have watched all of the Newsroom but feel it never had the chance to get going the way this did and frankly House of Cards, while excellent is just so dark that at times it actually makes me uncomfortable to watch certain episodes. For all his undeniable faults Spacey was superb in that.
Yeah, because Bartlet withheld military aid to a country invaded by a major US geopolitical enemy with expansionist and imperialist tendencies lead by a totalitarian autocrat - who may or may not but most likely did effect a misinformation campaign against the American people to persuade them to elect Bartlet - all in exchange for personal political dirt excavated by foreign actors... Oh, wait, that's that other TV president, isn't it? The one who was on reality TV, not fiction.
@@Freelancer4tehwin amazing you believe this conspiracy theory, but anyone who thinks the 2020 election had demonstrable amounts of irregularities is a nut-job *eye-roll*
@TonkarzOfSolSystem Its really quite easy to understand. The conservitards, because all they care about is money and power, are trying to do everything they can to rig the system to make it harder for people who are legally entitled to vote, by purging voter rolls in majority-Democrat areas, by gerrymandering districts to give themselves disproportionate representation, and by outright fraudulent methods (such as those implemented recently in North Carolina) to maintain their stranglehold on power. They took the Governor's offices in two states (Florida and Georgia) by these means. They also use other political tricks for no other reason than it gives them an edge in manipulating voters to vote against their own best interests. Those interests are almost always counter to that of the conservitards. If the conservitards were to lose political power, they are terrified of two things: 1) that the opposition will do the same things to them that they've been doing to everyone for the last 30 years, and 2) that the average, regular American will see the truth that conservitards are only interested in money and power, and couldn't care less about helping the average citizen. The problem with that is, the Democrats are not so petty that they would destroy the country to keep power (see "Taking the high road" as a policy) or that they're as hateful or vindictive as conservitards are. I hope this explains it.
@@lancer525 for the record, when you drop the "conservitards" (particularly several times) you sound equally as idiotic and immediately invalidate your entire argument as the ones who constantly toss out the unbelievably clever and hilariously sounding "libtards". but yes for Tonkarz's question, generally the Republicans try to discourage if not outright suppress voting as much as possible because the simple fact is, even today with where we are right now in April 2019, the majority of the country is more center-to-left leaning, so the more people that vote, the more likely Democrats win in practically a landslide every time. It's why Republicans have long fought so hard against what readily exists in several other countries of earlier/easier voting registration and making election day a national federal holiday so as few people have to worry about voting around their work schedule as possible.
@@kevinw712 For the "record" you arrogant ass, it's way beyond time that progressives and anyone else to the left of the Nazi CONSERVITARDS start fighting back, primarily by using their own tactics against them. I am tired of seeing anyone and everyone who isn't marching along in jack-booted lockstep, referred to as a "libtard" by all the ignorant twatwaffles of #comradepumpkinfuhrer 's deranged, treasonous, and totally un-American little world. I'm especially tired of progressives and leftists cowering in the corner and whimpering, "please don't hurt me". No more. And if you're not railing against them at the top of your lungs, you're equally to blame. So, kindly take your advice, and shove it right up your weak little ass.
In the 1700s the word State was largely synonymous with Nation, and the US Constitution was originally written with the intent that the States would do the majority of the actual business of governing and that the federal government would exist primarily to deal with foreign powers, interstate policies, and the rare nation-wide issue. The voting mechanisms reflect that priority: each independent state gets a strong enough voice that each entity has power, and the larger states get slightly larger voices. We are supposed to be fifty states first, one nation second, because the worst excesses of government come from the one nation attitude.
Short answers: 1. electoral college 2. voting registration requirements 3. limited number of voting locations 4. reshuffling voting districts 5. potentially suspicious number of uncounted ballots.
CJ " We already sent 80 cartons to Clem, I mean Mr. Rollins" The little things on this show is awesome. How CJ used that line into making Republicans thinks they are being buddies with the person who is going after them...Brilliant
"You have ask the Congress that."
And how Leo smiled seeing C.J deliver that nicely wrapped bait to the Republicans in the House of Representatives...
Magnificent delivery by Allison Jenney.
After all these years, this show has NOT lost any of its power.
I always felt like this moment... this conversation with Leo... is what led to the "only one name" moment later in the series, and CJ becoming Chief of Staff.
I think one of the reasons Leo may have picked CJ to replace him as COS was that she saw the big picture of how to get things done and not just the small picture.
And that's why I loved this show ... they never held back from giving CJ hard hitting, back handed, brilliantly worked strategy tools to solve a problem when it looks like she's cornered. They were never afraid of giving a lead woman nasty, hard, brilliant lines and she read them, played them, pulled out all stops to be the amazing character - it was fast paced, ironic, sarcasm handled brilliantly.
Yes, because press secretaries in real life can do more than read a teleprompter. /sarcasm
CJ was one of the best characters. She’d spent years doing Hollywood PR so she knew all the dirty tricks and she knew exactly how things would be portrayed.
@@omegacon4 They can. They just don't, because they're simply mouthpieces. Certain ones can't even manage the podium, let alone the Press Room.
Everybody's rightfully praising CJ's dialogue, but I'm marveling at the fact that CJ pulled Leo by the hand into a quiet room. That's trust and urgency and conviction and all sorts of important emotions right there without uttering a single word.
C.J. telling Leo: "We need to be investigated by someone who wants to kill us just to watch us die," always sends a chill down my spine due to how perfect Allison Janney's line reading is.
That's why she's won multiple Primetime Emmys and Screen Actors Guild awards, plus others.
It's crazy how brilliant Allison Janney was throughout the series and especially to be brilliant in this complicated role is the testament to the fact why she's one of our greats
She’s So Damn Good! Fact: Young women took a defined interest in politics because of not only this show, but Allison Janney’s portrayal of CJ Cregg. It’s October 2024, and I want a woman President in my White House.💙🇺🇸
If I remember correctly, Babish wanted the most bloodthirsty prosecutor he could find. CJ handed him over to him on a silver plate. Bring it on.
You're right. I wonder why Babish has a problem with CJ now?
@@DrownedInExile Because she went around him. She should've revealed her plan to him before consulting Leo.
@@pbdye1607 No, it's because of lazy continuity and writing for plot's sake. They are both good episodes, but the continuity of the show is horrible.
I always wondered about that incongruity. Like... you wanted a bloodthirsty investigator and now youre saying hes a good guy and doesnt foam at the mouth?
@@partyguy101ify it’s common in shows with high, world-altering stakes that they’re afraid to let things diverge from the real word too much. Another example is the argument over whether to use soft money for the re-elect campaign when there was a multi-episode arc in season one where they banned soft
money.
Allison Janney. Possibly THE most under-rated actress in history!
Babbish and CJ had insane chemistry. I wish they showed more of it.
Alison Janney and Oliver Platt generely have insane chemistry with anyone they share screens with. They enhance the acting of all their co-stars.
I love that CJ refers to him as 'Clem', accidentally on purpose
One of the best shows of all time. So well written!
Cut it before CJ popped the cork and said “come get us.” Which is the whole point of the clip.🤦🏾♂️
3:31 - Love how Sam bumping into Donna is timed with the committee revelation, perfectly represents how shaken by the news she is.
One more thing. I really love the intelligent political discourse on these threads. Every Democrat should watch the West Wing. After 25 years, we still can’t get enough.❤
"Yeah - but isn't that like how a mugger uses a gun to produce your wallet?"
ROTFLMAO!! Great line!!
i thought that was funny
Absolutley but TV is a fairytale and fairytales are seldom true
I love when she goes up to Leo and says "Leo; Giselle". Josh gets the message and immediately excuses himself.
If you have a moment, I'd love to hear the story behind that comment.
@@allendracabal0819 Giselle is a ballet; Josh wanted to be a ballerina when he was little.
@@heddalee Thank you.
Dude! you can't end it there!, you have to let CJ get her line "come and get us" before you end it.
While throwing a bottle cap way
THANK YOU!!! I WAS JUST THINKING THAT!
Damn, I miss intelligent TV.
The only thing that I ever complained about The West Wing was.....that hour sure went quick each week and the next six days were snail slow! Cheers
try The Good Fight
Damn I miss intelligent government
Derek, I think you mean that you miss intelligent government
And politicians.
This video leaves out some of the other things that CJ did like get the press to find a paper and the special prosecutor and Oliver published together. This was a whole story for her in this episode.
I love CJ. Probably the best character on the whole show and there are many great characters.
Aw, you cut off before the end where she looks at the screen and says "Come and get us". That's the best part of the last scene!
"He doesn't hate us".
"That's just because he doesn't know us yet". 😂
Sad for the time when Republicans were “well respected, deliberate and take (their) duties seriously, want to get the truth and want to avoid any appearance of impropriety” 🙃
That ship sailed decades ago.
"Yah but isn't that like the way a mugger uses a gun to produce your wallet?!" The WRITING for this show my god 😂🥂
I declare that I am a very sad person in that I love this programme in an unhealthy way. I have all the series on dvd, I have watched them all sequentially and back from the end again to the first show, several times! It is totally addictive, completely brilliant and almost better than Shakespeare. I feel deeply saddened when people say Breaking Bad is the best thing ever on TV, clearly they have never seen TWW...
It may be the best thing that tv has ever done.
Agreed!
swear to God there was a five year period where I watched my West Wing DVDs and nothing else. Not even the frickin news.
I just feel sad that we don’t have the West Wing anymore 😢
Breaking Bad was magnificent in a very different way. They are both best in genre. I've watched both, full series, multiple times. Always satisfying. Cheers.
This is my favorite political move in the whole series.
It's a future Chief of Staff move.
I really like how you cut that clip about 20 seconds early.
Yeah, that was sloppy. The end of that episode was awesome
@@brianwilliams4832 I just rewatched that clip after you replied, and it pissed me off all over again.
Confirmed: C.J. Cregg is House Slytherin, and awesome at it.
Nah, I respect your opinion, but I would say this is Ravenclaw or a Hermione-esque Gryffindor. The second mostly because of things she does in the rest of the series. Like the thing with Saudi Arabia, the environmental report ahead and Leo got into it over, the mad cow stuff etc.
Don't get me wrong, I see how this would be taken that way, but C.J. even uses deviousness to serve the greater good and not just for personal gain. That's just my opinion though.
@@Sarah-jd9it Slytherin aren't inevitably in it for personal gain, even though ambition is associated with them. It's mostly about the ruthlessness and cunning.
@@ErisRising Again, I respect your opinion. I just disagree. Most examples of Slytherin cunning I have seen are about CYA and then if possible get your friends back. Snape is a primary example to the opposite, but I will say I pretty much hated Snape for his treatment of some of the children in his care.
We are allowed to differ in opinion though and I will just say that this was obviously a thought provoking comment...at least for me.
I like how she said Clem "accidentally" would make people think they are too familiar.
Yep, that's part of the ingenious plan, and I love it.
CJ: What do Republicans say about Clem Rollins?
Ainsley: He's well respected, he's deliberate, he takes his duties seriously, he wants to get at the truth and he wants to avoid any appearance of impropriety or partisanship
God, the show was fucking psychic
as someone who doesn't follow american politics too closely, what are you referring to?
@@angusperson4222 I think the comment was about former Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his (overly-cautious) investigation of the Trump campaign's connections with Russia and the Kremlin.
Like letting Jim Jordan investigate the White House
It occurs to me, after CJ grabbed his hand, Leo spoke with Jed sometime after and said "you know, if I'm ever hit by a bus, CJ is right for the job".
As in. CJ, just here, passed a job interview she didn't know she was having.
Did this actually happen? I don’t remember it happening. Can you tell me which episode this conversation between leo and bartlet takes place?
@@ashwinoashwin I think it happened Season 6 - Third-day story. Leo had a heart attack at Camp David, at some point he was found. Bartlet needed a chief of staff, Leo was no longer fit and recommended only one person - C.J. Later in the episode Bartlet asks C.J. to "Jump off a cliff", the same thing he asked of Leo.
I think the inspiration for this scene is otto von Bismarck. It's like how bismarck needed someone who can humiliate the entire german people to goad the south german states into war. An enemy who was already hated by all german people, an enemy they can win on their own but can portray as it was due to unity among the German states. An enemy that had just recently occupied parts of german land, and tried to suppress the German language. An enemy like France.
Allison Janney is the greatest actress ever
Back when the White House actually cared about following subpoenas
(This is a television show)
Dear God, was this show brilliant for a long while.
Donna received a better education on Washington and how government works than a Harvard Political Science PhD. graduate.
A shame you left out the end bit where CJ pops the beer bottle cap off and says, 'Come get us.'
Ainsley should have been used more i really liked her.
The cast of series regulars was full, so she Procter only ever a guest star on the show, which made it easy for her to be scooped up by CSI: Miami. Aaron Sorkin has actually gone on record saying that he regrets not pushing to make her a regular despite there not technically being an opening for a new one.
EXAAAAAAAAAAAAACTLY
She was good. The only thing i didn't like was that "quirk" of her being obsessed with food. It always came across as contrived and out of place. But i really liked her.
The actor who played Ainsley is an example of how no matter how minor a character is on TWW, casting is important and their script gets special care. She was a brilliant character. She was so right for the part.
I think this was the moment he knew she had it in her to play politics with the best of em
Which she did, but this shows how new Babbish was to the White House. Tribbey would have went into CJ's office, looked at her across the desk, and asked, "You ready to play hardball?"
I always hated this. I know why she’s doing it but I still hate it. They finally have someone who just wants to do the job right and nobody likes it because it’s not good politics. This is the problem today everyone is fighting instead of just trying to do a good job.
Hate to tell you this mate but, speaking as someone with a Bachelors degree in political science, a fascination with the history of the American government, and a few years working within state-level bureaucracy, it’s always been this way.
@@jacobtebbe4435 I hear ya. But just because something is the way it is doesn't mean it's right.
Sorkin’s prescience is mystifying… the Republican House Reform and Oversight committee is exactly like irl 2022-2023 committee
well, we dont hang out in a little club...
As we saw with the ten Republican Senators who voted to impeach Trump, Ainsley wouldn't do so well today. And that's a sad fact when people put their party before blind partisanship to defend a vile racist with dementia just to preserve their position.
I wanna TWW back again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Trump’s version?
Hmmmmm.........this whole line of thought......this sequence of scenes.....it feels current...sounds like current events....
Favorite scene with Babbish is with the First Lady, and he talks about nature.
I love it when CJ's trying to throw him off with the "the average number of men who wear ladies underwear compared to the number of presidents we've had" because she's just irked she has to be question to begin with, and Babbish with the completely deadpan expression "CJ. In my entire life, I've never found anything charming."
Let me say this - if someone exists like C.J. Craig...and she becomes a salesperson for a corporation, expect her to gain the 'Top Salesperson of the Year' award every single year.
Damn! I wanted to see C.J. flip the top off her bottle of beer and say, "Come and get us," while looking at the guy who's talking on the TV. The best line in that last scene. Why can I not find it ANYWHERE on RUclips?????
this show was just way way too good
I miss Ainsley Hayes. They should have kept her.
Aaron Sorkin has said in a number of interviews he wishes he had kept Ainsley around.
You cut out the best part!
And this ladies and gentlemen is why I hate politics and the system. Why was having a good honest investigator a bad thing?
Because a long slow investigation can logjam everything else you're trying to do, for potentially years on end. Part of why the last administration wanted to rush things through so they could try to move past them.
I love that character!
you cut off the end where she opens the beer on the edge of the desk and whispers, "Come and get us".
Perfect example of ignoring what ought to be done in favor of political theater for theaters sake. Truth is irrelevant.
You cut off the best part of the scene!!!!
It's so weird to watch The West Wing in 2019, and see these very themes being played out again.
@Leo Peridot Sigh. It is plain to see that the accusation that Trump promotes White Supremacy is groundless. You've been fed a lie. A big, vicious, dangerous lie. I won't argue about it, either.
Even stronger now than when you first commented. President Trump's numbers are going up and all he had to do was declassify a phone call while the Democrats screech in rage.
@@jerrybobteasdale Trump doesn't promote white supremacy. He uses it, channels it. He gives the white supremacists just enough slack that they think he's on their side, without actually saying so; so they'll vote for him. It's actually a pretty cunning con. Which is the only thing he was ever any good at.
@Leo Peridot do you have a y knowlege or evifence to support that? Or are you merely paraphrasing unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.
can someone please explain to me these scenes? I dont understand why it is so good. Sorry I am a bit dense :)
Don't worry. Basically, here C.J. demonstrates how you can turn any situation to your own advantage. In this case, it's a matter of picking your enemy carefully. If the White House's enemy is someone that the American people love, then the people will hate the White House in comparison. But in setting the White House against an enemy the public hates, the people will root for the White House. So in choosing the enemy, C.J. can shape public perception. It's really clever :)
+Griffin O'sullivan - You are not dense. Aaron Sorkin throws so much fast paced dialogue and so many ideas at us that it hard for anyone to get a quick handle on it. And, the great ensemble cast has always been great at delivering his script. I agree with Michelle's interpretation.
+Michelle P. Foster
The look Leo gives CJ at the briefing as he is watching her jerk the press around makes me think that this is when he started thinking she might be able to do the Chief of Staff job.
@Watersmith53 Absolutely no one argues against that the show went down in quality after season 4 with Sorkin & Schlamme's departure. John Wells, whose job it then became to run the show for 3 more years, openly admits this, because the initial run was historic television (literally, it was the first drama ever to win the Emmy for best show each of its first 4 seasons). I've literally never spoken to another fan who doesn't qualify season 5 as the worst (though funnily enough it did have a handful of great individual episodes, in particular "The Supremes", just also lots of awful ones), but that both season 6 and 7, while clearly still not reaching close to Sorkin heights, were a significant improvement and still better than 80% of the rest of general television. you're sincerely the only person I've ever seen say that season7 was "horrible".
And the reason Donna is asking Josh about it is she's realised her boyfriend at the time works in that area and she's about to lose him.
Subpoenas are not a tool "to determine the scope of an inquiry." Subpoenas are a tool to obtain information that may be relevant to the subject matter of an action or inquiry. Big difference.
CJ reminds me of Sarah Huckabee Sanders in this scene with regards to the Mueller Investigation. Fascinating....
CJ handles it much more shrewdly.
Sarah huckabee was a liar. She was horrid at her job. Not at all like the character CJ.
@@ascotberks2018 CJ lies or misdirects constantly to the press throughout the series, sometimes because she was kept out of the loop.
Disliked just because you cut out the "Come and get us" bit. I'm petty, OK?
I thought the exact same thing myself. The best part was cut.
It cut off just before the best line!
CJ just described Trump in ten words or less.
David Bennett from my location. You, a clueless, racist, punk ass Democrat
Pablo Look at you. It's embarrassing. In about four, maybe five years, the GOP will have moved on to their next sleazy demogogue and not one of you will be brave enough to admit you ever supported Trump. It's a political process that's happened many times before.
@@luqas99 as opposed to the DNC sleazy demogogue? yawn
@@OrenPanitch The DNC don't have demogogues. Go and get some sleep
@@luqas99 oh so Joe Biden et al won in 2020 due to rational policy ideas and not "orange Hitler white supremacist bad, responsible for all COVID deaths"? That's demagoguery
WTH?! Dude you cut it off before the best part at the very end.
As it turns out, doesn't matter how good the Inquirer Is, as long as Republicans are the ones doing the slandering.
Only toxic and immoral individuals will thrive in such work environment, I won’t
"He doesn't hate us."
"That's just cause he doesn't know us."
LOL
Reminds me of Farscape: "No one knows you here. It's only the people who know you, who want you dead!"
Clinton tried this with Ken Star. Backfired pretty badly. Compare Star to Muller.
CJ is so awesome
“ you’d have to ask Congress that.”… no no you made the claim.
This decision more than likely allowed the Bartlet White House to go through this relatively unscathed, and helped Bartlet beat up Lionel Richie in November
Lionel?
@@Sylvander1911 Lol, imagining Lionel Richie as a conservative Republican now haha
The irony here is that it was the House investigation that ultimately set its sights on Leo and his substance abuse problem; leading Bartlett to accept a censure in order to spare Leo from further humiliation. CJ’s plan backfired, big time.
no. it allowed them to speed up the time table and get it over with. they would have had to wait until the special prosecutor then wait for the house to draw up articles of impeachment. that constantly open wound would have killed him politically.
Lady Macbeth got NOTHING on Ms. CJ Cregg
This was actually a horrible political move. If it hadn’t been for one decent man (who had a thing for Donna) Leo’s entire history of drug and alcohol abuse would have been dragged into the open. C.J. came close to destroying the administration. I’m just saying.
Uh no, Leo's history of drug and alcohol abuse came close to destroying the admin.
She dropped the dynamite in the water, created the chum, n reeled in the sharks !🙀
Remember the days when being too partisan was considered a bad thing?
Leo: "Yeah, walk with me."
It's The West Wing; it would be weird if you didn't walk and talk.
Seriously?! You cut it before "Come and get us" That was the closer right there.
Can anyone tell me which episode of the West Wing this is from. I want to watch the whole episode. The White House counsel refers to CJ using one of his aides to get this done and I guess he means Ainsley Hayes. I do not recall seeing any scene where Hayes was used to do this, so I want to see that.
CJ used Ainsley's Republican connections to help plant the seed that the White House was happy with the special prosecutor. It's season 3, episode 3.
FACTS!
Why on Earth would you cut that short?
884k views and 255 subs?
That's unfair !!
Trump had his chance with Comey.
In fiction, the House had to be baited to go after a President that had done wrong. In reality, the House charged in headlong after a President that they just don't like.
How many times in the series did someone refer to Josh by a woman’s name? I’ve seen two clips in a row already.
Well, if you binged the series in one sitting, and did a drinking game for every time Josh was called by a feminine name, beaten up vocally by CJ, or outsmarted by Donna...you'd be dead.
2:34 that was smooth as hell. Man the writing can get good sometimes.
1:03
You see the light bulb going on.
Hate this change in the show. When Babbage was explaining a strategy in previous episode he said to pick a foaming at the mouth bartlet hater.
Why? Why does it have to be a fight?
+cooldude333 Because the President lied about having a degenerative neurological illness.... there was going to be a fight no matter what, at least in this situation CJ gets to control the spin, and the White House can help control the direction of the fight.
+aali “Aalikane” kane - Yes. Oliver was generally right in most of the advice he gave the First Family. But, in this case, CJ was right. For several years we had the privilege of seeing a great ensemble cast deliver great dialogue. The shows were more like well produced movies than a TV show (especially TWO CATHEDRALS).
Fight or force is the only thing to get the attention of the American people.
Communism 101 kids.
OK, opinions on 1:30, please. What would be going through your mind if a 6 foot blonde grabbed you by the hand and pulled you into an empty room?
Well as a full blooded man I would naturally be intrigued and hopeful, but the moment CJ opens her mouth and talks like this to me, I'd ask for her hand in marriage.
I've died and gone to Heaven, in fact all you'd hear from me is an enthusiastic "YES PLEASE" at least until CJ started talking politics. Alison Janney is an awesome actress as well as exeptionally attractive. For my money she was THE best of the ensemble cast with the possible exception of Martin Sheen himself. In truth TWW remains my all time favourite series and I deeply regret that almost nothing on TV has been so intelligently written, superbly shot and perfectly acted since. I have watched all of the Newsroom but feel it never had the chance to get going the way this did and frankly House of Cards, while excellent is just so dark that at times it actually makes me uncomfortable to watch certain episodes. For all his undeniable faults Spacey was superb in that.
I'd think all my birthdays and Christmases had come at once.
happy hour in the Lincoln bedroom?
promptly followed by me in tears and a marriage proposal.
Bissonet no idea why I have no money nothing to offer
CJ foretold the future with the current house of representatives
Yeah, because Bartlet withheld military aid to a country invaded by a major US geopolitical enemy with expansionist and imperialist tendencies lead by a totalitarian autocrat - who may or may not but most likely did effect a misinformation campaign against the American people to persuade them to elect Bartlet - all in exchange for personal political dirt excavated by foreign actors... Oh, wait, that's that other TV president, isn't it? The one who was on reality TV, not fiction.
@@Freelancer4tehwin amazing you believe this conspiracy theory, but anyone who thinks the 2020 election had demonstrable amounts of irregularities is a nut-job *eye-roll*
I know it’s a Labor Day and Anna Nicole married for Love and there were WMads ink. Irsq
1:30 Leo's face
Gisele 💀💀💀💀💀
Why is voting in America so complicated?
@TonkarzOfSolSystem Its really quite easy to understand. The conservitards, because all they care about is money and power, are trying to do everything they can to rig the system to make it harder for people who are legally entitled to vote, by purging voter rolls in majority-Democrat areas, by gerrymandering districts to give themselves disproportionate representation, and by outright fraudulent methods (such as those implemented recently in North Carolina) to maintain their stranglehold on power. They took the Governor's offices in two states (Florida and Georgia) by these means. They also use other political tricks for no other reason than it gives them an edge in manipulating voters to vote against their own best interests. Those interests are almost always counter to that of the conservitards.
If the conservitards were to lose political power, they are terrified of two things: 1) that the opposition will do the same things to them that they've been doing to everyone for the last 30 years, and 2) that the average, regular American will see the truth that conservitards are only interested in money and power, and couldn't care less about helping the average citizen. The problem with that is, the Democrats are not so petty that they would destroy the country to keep power (see "Taking the high road" as a policy) or that they're as hateful or vindictive as conservitards are.
I hope this explains it.
@@lancer525 for the record, when you drop the "conservitards" (particularly several times) you sound equally as idiotic and immediately invalidate your entire argument as the ones who constantly toss out the unbelievably clever and hilariously sounding "libtards".
but yes for Tonkarz's question, generally the Republicans try to discourage if not outright suppress voting as much as possible because the simple fact is, even today with where we are right now in April 2019, the majority of the country is more center-to-left leaning, so the more people that vote, the more likely Democrats win in practically a landslide every time. It's why Republicans have long fought so hard against what readily exists in several other countries of earlier/easier voting registration and making election day a national federal holiday so as few people have to worry about voting around their work schedule as possible.
@@kevinw712 For the "record" you arrogant ass, it's way beyond time that progressives and anyone else to the left of the Nazi CONSERVITARDS start fighting back, primarily by using their own tactics against them. I am tired of seeing anyone and everyone who isn't marching along in jack-booted lockstep, referred to as a "libtard" by all the ignorant twatwaffles of #comradepumpkinfuhrer 's deranged, treasonous, and totally un-American little world. I'm especially tired of progressives and leftists cowering in the corner and whimpering, "please don't hurt me".
No more.
And if you're not railing against them at the top of your lungs, you're equally to blame. So, kindly take your advice, and shove it right up your weak little ass.
In the 1700s the word State was largely synonymous with Nation, and the US Constitution was originally written with the intent that the States would do the majority of the actual business of governing and that the federal government would exist primarily to deal with foreign powers, interstate policies, and the rare nation-wide issue. The voting mechanisms reflect that priority: each independent state gets a strong enough voice that each entity has power, and the larger states get slightly larger voices. We are supposed to be fifty states first, one nation second, because the worst excesses of government come from the one nation attitude.
Short answers: 1. electoral college 2. voting registration requirements 3. limited number of voting locations 4. reshuffling voting districts 5. potentially suspicious number of uncounted ballots.
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