Gaijin's Very Fun Solid Shot Experience (ft.
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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Gaijin recently made the M79 shell the new default stock round for American tanks with the 76mm (such as the M18 or M4A3), which has made some War Thunder players pretty upset. In this gameplay video, I teamed up with Odd to see just how bad the situation is.
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Gaijin's Very Fun Solid Shot Experience (ft. @OddBawZ )
This was equal extreme measures of fun and pain all at the same time! You made this challenge actually bearable and that's a huge compliment! 😂
Calling this a challenge is like saying being kicked in the nuts is a challenge. I don't know where I'm going with this, but it does say something about one of us.
How you guys do more videos together. Really enjoyed it.
I love you OddBawZ
Lol nice seeing you two together , vids from both of you are nice to watch but is a pain to make sometimes lol , good luck and g'day to both of you and may you find peace in the domain :3
Why don't you both go out with the APHE for therapy and rip some face?
Spookston and Oddbawz is a duo I didn't know I needed, but which I love
A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one
Spook there's a bot in your Russian Nuke tank vid on my comment just so know
Literally.
Samesi
I’m your 1,000th like : )
Tank crew: **gets a 3 inch wide 15 pound solid chunk of metal shot through their chest**
Also tank crew: tis but a scratch
Imagine flipping by a bomb and then getting rescued by Spookston and OddBawZ like those Norwegian road rescue dudes
They wouldn’t know who they were as odd and spooks have the name hider on which randomizes their names. But I guarantee that definitely made that Sherman’s day.
@@Godofchaosdragons yeah it definitely did
I've gotten to rescue one person like that with the help of a teamate
*Spookston shoots a sherman directly in the ammo stowage, detonating 6 shells which would 100% turn the tanks' crew into a fine sauce*
Gaijin: "looks like a hit to me"
"wets ammo rack"
@@betteroywoth2445 that tank HAD to have had the wettest ammo rack known to man
@@Germangamer-gn9ks no different then the stug ammo rack
@@Germangamer-gn9ks the shells were just full of water
@@MsZsc the projectile didnt even exist instead of ammo they accidentally loaded water. just water. no projectile in the casing no, just fucking water
Spookston content is enjoyable
I concur
Quite delectable it is
It’s exquisite
Rather dashing
Oddbawz content is also enjoyable
“A glorified cannon ball” 💀 this is why I watch you, and the edits are equally funny
Lol 0.5 seconds after i read your comment i heard him say that🤣
Gaijin having made this godawful solid shot the default shell for shermans is honestly a crime. I am not necessarily against (but also not in favour) of having to grind for a good shell, but in those situations at the very least the default shell should be good too.
The british having to suffer through 4 shells before finally getting their APDS is ridiculous. Meanwhile the sermany that guffers starts out with their best shell almost without exception in that same BR range.
But you should be against grinding good shell. How the fuq tank should fight if it hasn't gun neither repair kits. Just HOW??
@@raketny_hvost I think starting out with a slightly downgraded shell is fine, a good example would be for example the british with their mk8 shell on the 17 pounder. It is still a very good shell, while also very useable. And then you have to work towards the APDS shell meaning you just need to grind ONE shell, not the 4 they have to grind now, I think that's a fair balance if gaijin does so badly want to have shells as modifications you need to research.
Another example would be how in MBT's you start out with HEATFS, in my opinion you should start out with the weaker dart (which most if not all MBT's have) and then possibly grind towards the better dart. You can still do well enough with the weaker dart.
The problem with stuff like the british mk6 and the MBT's starting with HEATFS is that it makes them downright combat ineffective. The shells aren't just a small downgrade from their normal shells, they are barely useable in the BR's they are used in.
@@Gary_The_Metro TL;DR tanks should start out with mid shells instead of god awful shells or the best shells they have.
@@Gary_The_Metro lower mbt brs I don't think it's a big deal to start out with heatfs, but when chemical armor is everywhere hearfs is almost useless and darts should be the stock round.
M48 fans starting with apcr
"I'm gonna do something incredibly stupid."
"Play War Thunder?"
Sums up the whole wt fanbase in two sentences.
A little fact, The M62 (APHE) used to be stock ammo, and the M79 (AP) needs to be researched to unlock. They patched it a few months ago; now, the M79 is in stock, and the M62 needs to be researched.
this change alone made the late 75mm shermans barely usable
Which only makes grinding the M4A2/3 (76) particularly painful. Getting constantly uptiered, and not being able to do jackshit to any of the tanks on that BR. And they say that Germany suffers...
GOD I remember the time where Gaijin switched my shell loadouts and it replaced my APCBC with solid AP. I wasn't aware that they did it and the amount of times I should've gotten the kill but instead get killed was painfully stacked upon me
Yeah, I didn’t even notice at first.
Gaijin and Fun are two words that dont mix
This is basically the viewpoint of new players trying these vehicles at stock
4:17 that shell replay lol, just went through the turret without damaging it like it was in some other dimension
Imagine suffering like british and frencj without your guaranteed 1 shot aphe
They have capped shells which have better damage presets. France is my second most played tree.
@@Spookstonnot France 🤨
@@Spookston i never used the capped british stuff... it's not even available at stuff like the avenger and other tanks around that BR
Me who suffers through Japan, have started to play china just to get the good of both US and USSR
@@ffenixfubuki Shot mk 8 for the 17 pounder the main shell everyone uses is APCBC(Amor Piercing Capped Ballistic Capped). The 2 and 6 pounder also use APCBC. The 20 pounders APCBC will straight nuke tanks.
I was in a Sherman Firefly shooting the flat side of some American Sherman and i shot his ammo 4 times and they were still just red before he turned and 1 shotted me.
Honestly, a good balancing for the solid AP would be to make it similar to HESH in that it doesn't have to pen to cause spalling on the inside, if only a little to only injure a crew member. I've seen many simulations on youtube (great source, I know) where rounds doesn't pen at all, but still rips off fragments on the other side of the armor and shoots towards the crew, much like a HESH round would.
So, make solid AP cause less spalling than HESH, but still reward near penetrations with an otherwise mostly useless round using an interesting mechanic.
No, this is stupid. APs should just have more piercing and good damage. Explosive APs in game already have much more damage than they had IRL
@@raketny_hvost yeah. One of the reasons the British used solid shot is that in testing the aphe and solid shot were so similar in performance that they decided to stick with solid shot
@@steveshumate1983 not really. APHE had a lot of issues those times, including "not-like-war-thunder" damage and situations when fuse didn't work. Also all this stuff decreased piercing as explosive AP was a bit lighter. Finally everybody started to produce APFSDS, but idk is it more expensive and rare than same HEATs because i herd tankers use HEAT more often in Ukraine for ex.
The damage problem in Warthunder is as old as ground forces themselves, it's a combination of 2 things
1) Crewmembers can survive far too many fragments without being knocked out
2) Crews do not bail even if more than half of the crew is dead and the remaining crew is injured.
The resulting situation is that tanks in general are bullet sponges which take far more penetrating hits to take out disable than they should. APHE is the exception because it deals an absurd amount of post-pen damage but it actually makes it perform more realistically overall because it can reliably one-shot tanks unlike other shells.
@@KekusMagnus I won't agree that APHE behave realistically as bigger calibers have more issues making them difficult to use, than supremacies, while lower caliber do too bog amount of damage. This may represent real behaviour of crew (but not even always), but not real power of shells, also breaking game balance, when 75mm stick damages equally to 120+mm mauls
gaijin realized that everyone ignored this crappy round so they did the only logical thing and made it stock to try to make the grind more frustrating so people would by GE components. Genius!
sigma snail marketing strategy
@lnboxmeontele_gramofficial6593 fake spookton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I finally unlocked the M10, I had to spend GE to unlock the APHE shell because it was that bad, I was so miserable and I kept dying so much that I just had to take the coward's way out and spend money, good grief
They played you like a fiddle.
1:25 Spoopston lmao. You and Oddbawz make a really funny combo, I could see you both with IronArmenian and Phly having a ball playing. Anyways great videos as always Spook
Yooo, I think a Churchill VII video would be rather cool, would be nice to see you work around the solid shot pain and the ungodly thick armour
The solid shot isn't a pain, it's the 103mm of pen at 4.7
Merry Christmas spookston! Hope you have a great day
You too!
Even tho i stopped playing WT ages ago, i still do love watching you and Oddbawz, pls keep this combo going i love it
That last little laugh from spookston was adorable
This shell gives me flashbacks of the old british solid shot grind. the mandatory crew sniping is so painful.
nice video as always spookston, and i have a suggestion for a vehicle too! if you want, can you play the swedish meatball launcher aka the bkan 1c? thank you!
the Bacon 1c is a force of nature and Herring
spookston giggling when using rockets gives me life
Need more duo content.....it's a Masterpiece 👌🏾
truly memorable words of wisdom: "bueh"
This has been one of my favorite videos done by either of you. Spook having so much painfilled fun is so endearing and heartwarming!! Happy holidays to both of you.
4:17 Come again? It ricocheted off the side of the mantlet and then started to ignore matter and physics and went through the whole turret. Its already bad enough when 150+pen rounds fail to go through a Tiger front plate just cuz they love tapped that angled plate but this a whole new level of volumetric working as intended...
these gaming videos are great, love them... wish you played more british stuff though :)
I’m glad he put “not your door” cause I was watching this and actually thought it was the door getting knocked on XD
This round used to have higher penetration as a trade-off against the APHE, but then Gaijin changed a bunch of shells around. Now it's completely pointless. Well, it's sometimes free where the APHE has a price, but you still won't use the uncapped AP because it sucks.
Another upload W
It'd be pretty funny to see you shred the enemy team using an M22 gremli- i mean locust
"Its a glorified cannonball".
Summary of the video
8:08 Ooooaaaeeeeehhhhhaaaweeeoooweeeooolllllll perfectly reasonable response to that
Merry Christmas spooks!
Great editing.
Merry Christmas Spookston, hope you you have a nice day.
The more WT game play videos I watch the more I enjoy collabs and group play over single creator videos. The shared joy and pain are just more fun to watch.
When it’s a review single creator is obviously better. But challenges and general gameplay are so much more fun to watch with back and forth.
Nice! Saw Odds video already but had no time at that point to watch yours.
Thank you, Algorithm. :)
Glorified cannon ball is the best thing I've ever heard
The firefly Sherman and the Tipo have this problem to extreme degrees because non explosive ammos is the only ammo given to them. They have no place on the BR they’re at.
Merry Christmas Spookston 🙂
Merry Christmas man
@@Spookston the meme sounds are pefection
Laughed my ass off, and you make playing WT more enjoyable... because we know damn wells the Devs dont lmao
2 hours before release I unlocked this vehicle and I'm like damn this gets sold shot with 130mm at this br meanwhile you have vk3002m with 192mm aphe pen stock
Ah yes, solid shot for the US 75 and 76. Le pain
As if the Easy 8 wasnt rough enough at 5.7
Maybe you could build on this video and also play an M48 (or the Israeli Magachs to have more tanks in the lineup) which has a great stock shell as well? Should be fun (at least for people watching it xD)
The grinds with the late Sherman's just to get heat are so frustrating
The stock Swedish round also leaves me questioning life...
Impressive, very nice. Now let's see an APCR vid.
"Do machine gun rounds count as solid shot?"
Yes. Yes they do.
Only vehicles I went straight to shot for rather than parts and FPE
0:53 Still waiting on that War Thunder Driving School video, Spook
Merry Christmas Spookston! Glad I could spent some of mine watching your videos
your gameplay videos reinforce why I don't play this game anymore
Alright. Same tanks, but with aphe so everyone can appreciate just how different the performance is.
Also, I really enjoy the way you react to this game. My group of friends makes it sound like an old school mw2 lobby when they non-pen due to tracks.
Solid shot experience, causally pulls out the Calliope
That moment at 0:55 reminded me of a match I had last week, an enemy player was very upset in chat about being unable to penetrate a Leopard 1 when they hit my turret cheek.
when I shot and destroyed their tank they followed up with "Oh, it was a Conqueror, my bad" and we had a lovely exchange in chat after that XD
8:17 *shoots steel debris*
8:25 *shoots same debris again* *Blames it on his friends barrel*
We don't take accountability for our actions round these parts
Little did he know, that my door was knocked on when 1:33 rolled around. Best reason to get yelled at lol
When I was new I thought regular solid shot ap was the best shell to use and naturally I was basically just fuming like every game because I couldn't get any kills for like 200 games until I figured it out. Smoke is litterly a more capable shell then ap on the 76 Sherman. I have killed planes with smoke. Wont kill a plane with ap
Welcome to the British experience. You're allowed to hit, you're allowed to penetrate, but you can't kill.
Merry Christmas spookston
Bruh the M79 rounds make you suffer more then Gaijin logic in more ways then one.
Me waiting for Spook to make a video on the British Striker: 💀
Seeing you guys do better with the worst ammo in the game than I do with the best ammo, and hearing you laugh has taught me two things. #1 I suck at this game, and #2 I need to laugh more
-I'm going to do something terrible
-Play War Thunder?
*DAYUM*
Your memes keep me going man
1:34 actually was my door
Merry christmas spookston.
Omg new Spookston video babe wake up.
Speaking of useless shells, a video about the APCR for the D-10T on T-54's? That has worse pen than the normal BR-412D
Merch Idea: Your Avatar in the comander's hatch going "goodness me"
I have been looking forward to this.
Merry Christmas folks
I don’t know why but something about 2 Sherman’s helping out a 3rd Sherman just seems so wholesome for some reason, great video though
This the entire British tank experience
Merry tankmas Spookston! Love your content and hope you have a good day
9:54 that last laugh was wholesome
It's funny because M79 used to have better flat pen before Gaijin decided that documented penetration values were for scrubs and put every shell on those penetration formulas. Yet another decision Gaijin has made that made no sense to anyone but the crackhead behind their local gas station.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas
Love the raw videos, Merry Christmas, you should play France 6.7 for max suffering.
This took a while to come out
The sound when the sturmtiger shot had me giggling like a child for a good 5 mins
Though I have been told British rounds are better, my skill is a lot worse so I feel your pain. Good to see WT made you happy @2:44
I think "Shrapnel rounds" might be worse
I believe when people use terrible things but win a lot, it is because they are compelling themselves to win a lot more.
Got another 'enjoyable' challenge idea for you: play the British Comet and Concept 3 using only the stock ammunition and HE :)
7:29 BEST moment of this video
Spookston when can you play any ebr variant?
I love being able to watch both points of view when u play with another creator
cool even WT creators being used for scams now lol
Merry tankmas Spookston!
You two are like brothers
This Video was a real beuh moment
well since you mentioned low tier french tanks i think that you should give them a go next
Odd is the most wholesome player in war thunder