I've always seem Vocal Rider as a pre-compressor optimizer, but I've struggled with some of the parameters. Thanks for the explanation! By far the best I've seen. Cheers!
it is literally like 3 knobs and a slider lol. the amount of hate this plug-in got initially is completely hilarious to me. this plug-in is absolutely amazing. if you are generally decent with your ears you will realize the value of this plug-in
omg if only I could get back all the hours spent drawing automation ... Lol i learned how to ride faders on a Neve console so loving this plugin - thank u!
I personally treat my vocals with 2 compressors. First is set with a really low threshold with a pretty fast attack BUT very gentle RATIO (2:1 MAX) and release to taste. The 2nd one is something like LA-2A or some FAIRCHILD like compressor that gives some character over controlling dynamic peaks. But I found that the meter never moves more than 6db reduction. And after that, I write fader automation to do what those compressors didn't manage to do. And that technique for me sounds really natural. Not overcompressed but controlled. Vocals breaths with the music and that's what I like. I have to try this thing with vocal rider sidechain capabilities. That sounds like a smart move.
This is the exact method that I lean towards. I don't have any faders and, honestly, I don't know that I would use them if I did. It's so easy to get 90% there with just a simple compressor... That being said Vocals is pretty much the only thing I use compression on -That and bass D.I. I never record bass from an amp, but if I did I suspect that I wouldn't use any compression on it... All examples of this vocal rider plugin that I've heard have sounded strange, including this one... don't see myself splurging on this plugin anytime soon...
That is impressive. I’m a big fan of fader riding & this thing appears to be better at it than I am. I use a control surface with motorized faders and use automation to keep the best take.
@@loudtim265 I'm not rally a fan of controllers but that looks like exactly what I need, a way to make micro-adjustments without having to type numbers in. Cheers for the heads up.
Some are saying it doesnt catch the fast transients,, if everything is set right and you are still having trouble here's what you can try,, set a compressor BEFORE the vocal rider that will catch the fast transients but release very fast. Attack should 0.01ms and release 0.20ms. Set the threshold to where you want the peaks brought down to. Set a high ratio. This way the transient up to 0.20ms gets squashed and the body is left alone to be handled by the vocal rider. If you have waves Trans X that can do the same thing easily.
I use Vocal Rider in every mix. Nice to have a refresher on the parameters. I do draw in automation on instrument buses, and I've taken to the habit of doing region gain on particularly hot or quiet bits in a vocal to level it out more so Vocal Rider sounds smoother. Thanks for this tutorial!
absolutely agree. In fact, it's slow enough for me to have regretted the purchase within about 5-10 minutes of use. You'll get much better results by doing hand-writing automation.
After watching this video I'm going to bring Vocal Rider back into my chain. I've been doing vocal riding by writing it in on the wave, pre-compressor, but there are always sections where it gets buried and you keep having to tweak and tweak. But this way the vocal sounds much more natural to me because you end up needing less compression. I like the side chain thing in relation to the music that you explained here, which I didn't get before.
On challenging vocals I apply Vocal Rider using it's feature to Write automation to the track. It's fantastic and typically does a better job than I would using my control surface faders.
HI, Thanks for this great demo! I'm blind, so would be really really happy, if you could please speak out the values you set for the sliders and such. It would be awesome if future videos also will contain this info as I didn't have the option to try out your tips as I couldn't figure out what values you've chosen. :-) Thanks in advance.
I have been using Vocal Rider for some time now and I consider it as one of my critical must-have plugins. But I did not know it's all these capabilities before! Thanks for such a great video on it.
Greta video I”ve always wanted to figure out how to set it and I couldn’t find a video that explained it as clear as you did. Thanks. I’ve used vocal rider usually for audiobooks always in default mode and sometimes I had to do some automation with the volume cause I didn’t know how to set it correctly. When It come to singing usually I automate the lead vocals which can be time consuming. I will definitely use vocal rider on lead vocals now that I know what is what haha. Thank for the video.
Thats because a lot of people think that fader level automation is the same thing as compression. It isnt, a compressor affects the envelope as well as the level of the signal it sees. Fader automation doesnt change the envelope. Its why fader automation sounds more natural. Its tedious but worth doing.
@@madmuso5 I don't understand why you say fader automation doesn't change the envelope. If you have a long sustained note, that gradually fades away over time, and you bring the volume up during the fade with fader automation, then the sustain and release levels of that note change. The envelope has changed. You can even visually see it, if you bounce the audio to another track
@@iainmcguire7190 lets take the example of a kick drum. Most of its energy is in the low end, so looking at the kick in a spectrum analyser youll see a large mountain type peak in the bass region (thats where most of the kicks energy resides) and throughout the rest of the spectrum the mids and highs are lower in level compared to the low end and more consist. Now imagine your hand pushing down on that mountain peak. In order for your hand to push down the mids and highs in needs to first squash that bass peak down to the same level and onwards. (Cant do that with fader automation) With the right threshold and attack/release settings on a compressor or limitet you can either gently tap the low end or squash the entire kick. This is why its possible to alter a kick drums attack or sustain. With a fast attack and release it makes the kick less pointy sounding and more sustained sounding. With a slower attack time you can make a soft kick sound like it has more "point". You're changing the sounds envelope to achieve this.
I use a subtle compression. I like 3:1 or 4:1, and keep the wet somewhere in the middle. This plugin is pretty neat though. I might want to try it. It's not expensive at all!
Hi there Dan. Eddie here in the U K. Thanks for your really helpful video which has helped me to better understand the Vocal Rider ! I've been manually riding the faders until now ! Hopefully NEVER AGAIN Dan ! Lol ! 😊
Use it on my sax and it’s wonderful. I use Bass Rider on my bass, too. Much more alive than compression, and when fed in certain sidechain applications it gets even more versatile.
I don't have vocal rider. It seems good. I learned, years ago, to ride faders. Since I no longer have faders, i have been using automation, and sometimes drawing, to "ride" my vocals. Then using soft comprssion to continue the process. Then I use an MV2 to finish it off. I like the results. Maybe i will consider a vocal rider!
I've been doing fading manually with automation clips. After watching this I think I could gently side-chain a vocal against itself and get a (not perfect) similar result. But also this plugin looks super easy to use with consistently better results.
Just picked up this today, very well made video! Also, its great you guys make updated videos (This plugin was released years ago, but this tutorial is relatively new) thats always a plus.
If I'm doing live sound, I'm always riding faders - sometimes 3 or more at a time! In a DAW, fader automation is definitely the best way to control your mix balance. Sometimes I'll even automate channels' input gain, compressor input/output gain, and even the compression ratio to add extra dynamic range or "squash" if needed.
@@palovibes Sure, for example on a live recorded guitar track the guitarist might play rhythm on one part of the song, then do a solo, then go back to playing rhythm on the same track: You'd probably want *more dynamics* for the rhythm section, but more squash during the solo. But the ratio setting is either way high or almost 1:1, nothing too obsessive lol.
This will certainly save heaps of time on my part. it is the minute details fo adjustments by the VR that counts for me. It is virtually tedious to manually do all that stuff. AI rules.
Are you showing two different methods here? One being where you use vocal rider to control the level of a vocal and another where you are changing the level of a vocal in relation to the rest of the song? Would you recommend using both tactics? Or stick with one?
Good stuff and I'm gonna get it right now. The only thing I think I'm gonna have a problem with is translating the setup to my own daw? Ya see I use Mixcraft 10 Pro Studio.. I've been with them for years and like it a lot but maybe it's me, I cannot correlate between what you do in your daw to mine. I've looked at other channels and it's always the same: Protools, Logic etc. I just wish someone would make a tutorial specifically for Mixcraft users. Great work!
Hi there, please note that we do not support Mixcraft 10 Pro Studio. That does not mean it won't work - Just that we do not test nor qualify our software for this DAW. In case that technical issues occur, we won't be able to provide technical support for this DAW. Please see our system requirements and supported hosts here: www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/supported-hosts www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/system-requirements
I always used volume automation as I don't have a console or control surface. It does take time but 20 minutes spent on a vocal on a 3-4 minute song isn't that onerous a task. Plus it doesn't cost anything apart from time.
Can someone elaborate a little more about 3:42? Been using vocal rider for years but never in this way. So Vocal Rider goes on the vocal track, side chain input from all music- then what do you play around with to get levels right? Thanks, and great video Waves
A must have! One of the best plugins (&mv2🤘😁) I use it on ever mix along with automation. Warren huart showed a trick using vocal rider before compression and after! It's a great trick and cuts automation and compression in half if not more. Think of it as a compressor and not ai automation. Hope this helps 🤘
@@MATTETRUEFACT it levels the audio out more so there's less peaks. Kinda like using a super fast compressor (1176) to catch peaks into a slower one (la2a) for leveling. Makes the compressor work not as hard. After the compressor it's a "flatter" signal so the vocal rider can be smoother. Hope this helps 🤘
@@pianostuff191 i was saying mv2 is one of waves best plugins but I use it after my first vocal rider ( fast mode) use mv2 with a little Downward compression mostly upward compression, then EQ, rvox, and any other vocal chain, vocal rider on slow. Then automation I use the rider like serial compression more than for automation. Makes everything not work as hard. Hope it helps 🤘
I tried using Vocal Rider on a vocal and it was way to slow to rreact to the variations of the levels. I had to do it by hand and although it took longer, I got a far superior result.
I was just responding to another similar comment -I haven't used vocal rider, but every demo I've heard of it sounds strange. Like, it's just not doing the job it should... I don't see anything wrong with slapping a compressor on vocals approx 8db gr (or whatever you like) and then automating the last few parts that are too quiet... That method has always seemed very natural to me... Maybe I'm missing something?? Sometimes, with extensive automation and drawing everything in and clip gaining everything the result can seem off as well... Just let the compressor do most of the work and meh... call it a day? haha!
I have it but for some reason it never works as good as manually automating the track. I've tried every setting possible. Used it on 2 albums and I always resorted to manually automating the gain.
Actually splicing your audio and adjusting the individual gains is so easy, it just takes a little time. Besides, Waves will charge you each year for this plugin - buy it once, pay forever.
I've been using this plugin for years and I paid once for it. You will only need to pay again if you want to update, which you may not find necessary. The plugin works and saves time. Besides there's more to vocal volume riding in relation to instrumentals than just splicing and adjusting gain.
I've always seem Vocal Rider as a pre-compressor optimizer, but I've struggled with some of the parameters. Thanks for the explanation! By far the best I've seen. Cheers!
it is literally like 3 knobs and a slider lol. the amount of hate this plug-in got initially is completely hilarious to me. this plug-in is absolutely amazing. if you are generally decent with your ears you will realize the value of this plug-in
omg if only I could get back all the hours spent drawing automation ... Lol i learned how to ride faders on a Neve console so loving this plugin - thank u!
I love Vocal Rider and I use it in all my mixes. It is such a life and time saver! Thank you Waves for such an amazing plugin!!!
I personally treat my vocals with 2 compressors. First is set with a really low threshold with a pretty fast attack BUT very gentle RATIO (2:1 MAX) and release to taste. The 2nd one is something like LA-2A or some FAIRCHILD like compressor that gives some character over controlling dynamic peaks. But I found that the meter never moves more than 6db reduction. And after that, I write fader automation to do what those compressors didn't manage to do. And that technique for me sounds really natural. Not overcompressed but controlled. Vocals breaths with the music and that's what I like. I have to try this thing with vocal rider sidechain capabilities. That sounds like a smart move.
This is the exact method that I lean towards. I don't have any faders and, honestly, I don't know that I would use them if I did. It's so easy to get 90% there with just a simple compressor... That being said Vocals is pretty much the only thing I use compression on -That and bass D.I. I never record bass from an amp, but if I did I suspect that I wouldn't use any compression on it... All examples of this vocal rider plugin that I've heard have sounded strange, including this one... don't see myself splurging on this plugin anytime soon...
I really love how you tell the order to insert the plugin!
wow tech can now do what I've been doing for over twenty years! AMAZING!
That is impressive. I’m a big fan of fader riding & this thing appears to be better at it than I am. I use a control surface with motorized faders and use automation to keep the best take.
which control surface you use?
@@fabianperez9937 just the single fader Presonus Faderport. I love it tho.
@@loudtim265 I'm not rally a fan of controllers but that looks like exactly what I need, a way to make micro-adjustments without having to type numbers in. Cheers for the heads up.
Vocal Rider is a must have in any vocal channel rack for me, its the truth
Some are saying it doesnt catch the fast transients,, if everything is set right and you are still having trouble here's what you can try,, set a compressor BEFORE the vocal rider that will catch the fast transients but release very fast. Attack should 0.01ms and release 0.20ms. Set the threshold to where you want the peaks brought down to. Set a high ratio. This way the transient up to 0.20ms gets squashed and the body is left alone to be handled by the vocal rider. If you have waves Trans X that can do the same thing easily.
I use Vocal Rider in every mix. Nice to have a refresher on the parameters. I do draw in automation on instrument buses, and I've taken to the habit of doing region gain on particularly hot or quiet bits in a vocal to level it out more so Vocal Rider sounds smoother. Thanks for this tutorial!
A lookahead function would be really nice, since often times the waves riders catch the initial transients too slowly :/
absolutely agree. In fact, it's slow enough for me to have regretted the purchase within about 5-10 minutes of use. You'll get much better results by doing hand-writing automation.
Seems to catch transients well for me. Make sure you are using the fast setting and setting the sensitivity right.
easily in my top 3 plugins... never do a session without Vocal Rider!
I use Vocal Rider and Bass Rider a lot. I like the results of following it with a compressor better than using two or three compressors in series.
After watching this video I'm going to bring Vocal Rider back into my chain. I've been doing vocal riding by writing it in on the wave, pre-compressor, but there are always sections where it gets buried and you keep having to tweak and tweak. But this way the vocal sounds much more natural to me because you end up needing less compression. I like the side chain thing in relation to the music that you explained here, which I didn't get before.
On challenging vocals I apply Vocal Rider using it's feature to Write automation to the track. It's fantastic and typically does a better job than I would using my control surface faders.
HI, Thanks for this great demo! I'm blind, so would be really really happy, if you could please speak out the values you set for the sliders and such. It would be awesome if future videos also will contain this info as I didn't have the option to try out your tips as I couldn't figure out what values you've chosen. :-) Thanks in advance.
GOAT Plugin! 🐐❤️🔥
Yup, both of them are.
@@trashdoktor ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Used vocal rider on all my projects. Works like magic
I have been using Vocal Rider for some time now and I consider it as one of my critical must-have plugins. But I did not know it's all these capabilities before! Thanks for such a great video on it.
Greta video I”ve always wanted to figure out how to set it and I couldn’t find a video that explained it as clear as you did. Thanks. I’ve used vocal rider usually for audiobooks always in default mode and sometimes I had to do some automation with the volume cause I didn’t know how to set it correctly. When It come to singing usually I automate the lead vocals which can be time consuming. I will definitely use vocal rider on lead vocals now that I know what is what haha. Thank for the video.
I’ve done ‘manual compression’ on every song for the last 5 years. No compressor can replace this approach. Thanks for the video.
Thats because a lot of people think that fader level automation is the same thing as compression. It isnt, a compressor affects the envelope as well as the level of the signal it sees. Fader automation doesnt change the envelope. Its why fader automation sounds more natural. Its tedious but worth doing.
@@madmuso5 right
@@madmuso5 I don't understand why you say fader automation doesn't change the envelope. If you have a long sustained note, that gradually fades away over time, and you bring the volume up during the fade with fader automation, then the sustain and release levels of that note change. The envelope has changed. You can even visually see it, if you bounce the audio to another track
@@iainmcguire7190 lets take the example of a kick drum.
Most of its energy is in the low end, so looking at the kick in a spectrum analyser youll see a large mountain type peak in the bass region (thats where most of the kicks energy resides) and throughout the rest of the spectrum the mids and highs are lower in level compared to the low end and more consist. Now imagine your hand pushing down on that mountain peak. In order for your hand to push down the mids and highs in needs to first squash that bass peak down to the same level and onwards. (Cant do that with fader automation) With the right threshold and attack/release settings on a compressor or limitet you can either gently tap the low end or squash the entire kick. This is why its possible to alter a kick drums attack or sustain. With a fast attack and release it makes the kick less pointy sounding and more sustained sounding. With a slower attack time you can make a soft kick sound like it has more "point". You're changing the sounds envelope to achieve this.
I use a subtle compression. I like 3:1 or 4:1, and keep the wet somewhere in the middle. This plugin is pretty neat though. I might want to try it. It's not expensive at all!
Hi there Dan. Eddie here in the U K. Thanks for your really helpful video which has helped me to better understand the Vocal Rider ! I've been manually riding the faders until now !
Hopefully NEVER AGAIN Dan ! Lol ! 😊
Thank You! I Use Vocal Rider and this tutorial was very useful. I appreciate in particular your relaxing way of explaining it. Best.
This looks like a good plugin for Podcast voice recording.
Really appreciated, this super-clear video. Thank you.
I've been using the Vocal Rider since its release, and have always found it to be very helpful.
Very helpful thanks. This is one of my Waves desert island plugins and I wish this video had been around for all the years I've been using it.
Learning how to use Vocal Rider at the moment.
Use it on my sax and it’s wonderful. I use Bass Rider on my bass, too. Much more alive than compression, and when fed in certain sidechain applications it gets even more versatile.
Used to use mouse input for automation. Now its Vocal Rider from here on out! :)
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I have this plug in. It is just fabulous. So easy and it sounds really good. Thanks for the tips!
I don't have vocal rider. It seems good. I learned, years ago, to ride faders. Since I no longer have faders, i have been using automation, and sometimes drawing, to "ride" my vocals. Then using soft comprssion to continue the process. Then I use an MV2 to finish it off. I like the results. Maybe i will consider a vocal rider!
Love Vocal Rider a lot! Great video Dan! Thank you so much!
Great explanation! Thanks
thank.you.so.mutch.you.make.everything.so.clear..love.your.videos
Vocal Rider is very useful to process vocal. I really recommend it!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Great demo, Dan!
Absolutely one of the best tutorials ever.👌👌👌💙💙💙
Awesome!! Video thank you for explaining it so clearly 👌👍👏🤘
i'm old school came up on SSL's and hands on faders- so i kind of always thought of vocal rider as a must have,, -
Thank u.. and thank u waves🦊
Great video! Thanks!
I've been doing fading manually with automation clips. After watching this I think I could gently side-chain a vocal against itself and get a (not perfect) similar result. But also this plugin looks super easy to use with consistently better results.
Just picked up this today, very well made video! Also, its great you guys make updated videos (This plugin was released years ago, but this tutorial is relatively new) thats always a plus.
i use it all the time, but usually I usually barely end up using it by the end of the mix. really easy to over-do it
That can be said about any plugin!
Congratulations. Excellent
work and video for compression which is really useful
Thank you Dan! Clear, concise and to the point!
If I'm doing live sound, I'm always riding faders - sometimes 3 or more at a time! In a DAW, fader automation is definitely the best way to control your mix balance. Sometimes I'll even automate channels' input gain, compressor input/output gain, and even the compression ratio to add extra dynamic range or "squash" if needed.
you automate the ratio? Dam dude! you going above and beyond or OCD?
@@palovibes Sure, for example on a live recorded guitar track the guitarist might play rhythm on one part of the song, then do a solo, then go back to playing rhythm on the same track: You'd probably want *more dynamics* for the rhythm section, but more squash during the solo. But the ratio setting is either way high or almost 1:1, nothing too obsessive lol.
@@OwenAdamsMusic wish everyone paid this much attention to detail...
Just the video I needed, thank you! And thank you for such an amazing plugin. 👏
Good overview. I use Melodyne 5 too - essential volume leveling and easier for per word leveling
Good stuff. Going to give it a go !!
I use vocal rider. Love it
thank you so much! very helpful
This is a super helpful tutorial!! Thank you so much!!
Thanks 👍 for this ur fans from naija
L2 Every Track to the max🤘🏽
Yes I have been using vocal rider
Vocal Rider is working hard though. Respect.
This will certainly save heaps of time on my part. it is the minute details fo adjustments by the VR that counts for me. It is virtually tedious to manually do all that stuff. AI rules.
Excellent Video Dan Cooper. thanks for taking the time to make this. thoroughly informative and easy to follow
love your Informative Time..
Are you showing two different methods here? One being where you use vocal rider to control the level of a vocal and another where you are changing the level of a vocal in relation to the rest of the song? Would you recommend using both tactics? Or stick with one?
I believe I would Like to use Vocal Rider
I remember the days when Waves bundle plugins was 5,000 to 7,000 dollars! 😂
im ridig everything by drawing the volume automation. i think i should get this plugin
love this guy
Very useful.. thank you..
Thanks
Great Video!
Why is the target in the minus range? Why isn’t the middle a 0db?
Good stuff and I'm gonna get it right now. The only thing I think I'm gonna have a problem with is translating the setup to my own daw? Ya see I use Mixcraft 10 Pro Studio.. I've been with them for years and like it a lot but maybe it's me, I cannot correlate between what you do in your daw to mine. I've looked at other channels and it's always the same: Protools, Logic etc. I just wish someone would make a tutorial specifically for Mixcraft users.
Great work!
Hi there, please note that we do not support Mixcraft 10 Pro Studio. That does not mean it won't work - Just that we do not test nor qualify our software for this DAW. In case that technical issues occur, we won't be able to provide technical support for this DAW. Please see our system requirements and supported hosts here:
www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/supported-hosts
www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/system-requirements
Thanks a lot i think this will help me
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I always used volume automation as I don't have a console or control surface. It does take time but 20 minutes spent on a vocal on a 3-4 minute song isn't that onerous a task. Plus it doesn't cost anything apart from time.
but boring AF.... no time for boring tasks in my life.
@@alexgregory1427 When was making music as 'boring AF'?
Can someone elaborate a little more about 3:42? Been using vocal rider for years but never in this way. So Vocal Rider goes on the vocal track, side chain input from all music- then what do you play around with to get levels right? Thanks, and great video Waves
a second vocal rider?
@@alexgregory1427 Right, but the music setting for example, turning the knob does what left and right?
I use Vocal Rider if needed but I mostly use manual automation.
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i use vocal rider and its the best plugin
Vocal rider rocks
great plug in
I’ve seen it done ! It’s very hard !
Interesting method, I would achieve the same effect by channel automation.
A must have! One of the best plugins (&mv2🤘😁) I use it on ever mix along with automation. Warren huart showed a trick using vocal rider before compression and after! It's a great trick and cuts automation and compression in half if not more. Think of it as a compressor and not ai automation. Hope this helps 🤘
Whats the difference using it before and after?
@@MATTETRUEFACT it levels the audio out more so there's less peaks. Kinda like using a super fast compressor (1176) to catch peaks into a slower one (la2a) for leveling. Makes the compressor work not as hard. After the compressor it's a "flatter" signal so the vocal rider can be smoother. Hope this helps 🤘
@@antcall6779 Thanks i will try it out
How do you use vocal rider in combination with MV2? Or is it either one or the other?
@@pianostuff191 i was saying mv2 is one of waves best plugins but I use it after my first vocal rider ( fast mode) use mv2 with a little Downward compression mostly upward compression, then EQ, rvox, and any other vocal chain, vocal rider on slow. Then automation I use the rider like serial compression more than for automation. Makes everything not work as hard. Hope it helps 🤘
What do I use? Mostly RX Leveler or double compression. But this one's cool as well.
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Thanks man.❤️🔥❤️❤️🔥
I use Reaper, split the vocal into segments, normalise, that normally fixes any differences, with just fine tuning the volume of each segment.
exactly how not to do it, but if it works it works!!
@@alexgregory1427 See this ruclips.net/video/tjnrGU83PB4/видео.html
I tried using Vocal Rider on a vocal and it was way to slow to rreact to the variations of the levels. I had to do it by hand and although it took longer, I got a far superior result.
I was just responding to another similar comment -I haven't used vocal rider, but every demo I've heard of it sounds strange. Like, it's just not doing the job it should... I don't see anything wrong with slapping a compressor on vocals approx 8db gr (or whatever you like) and then automating the last few parts that are too quiet... That method has always seemed very natural to me... Maybe I'm missing something?? Sometimes, with extensive automation and drawing everything in and clip gaining everything the result can seem off as well... Just let the compressor do most of the work and meh... call it a day? haha!
Sweetness 👑
I fucking vocal ride everything I do these days! Thank you so much!
Bravo 💯💯💯
actually a genius plugin tbh that i wanted to hate
I use volume automation.
However, I prefer fader-riding for FX busses.
That’s an interesting idea. Thanks for sharing, I’ll give that a go
Interesting! Please can u explain 2 us why would we need a compressor after using da vocal rider?
I have it but for some reason it never works as good as manually automating the track. I've tried every setting possible. Used it on 2 albums and I always resorted to manually automating the gain.
Actually splicing your audio and adjusting the individual gains is so easy, it just takes a little time. Besides, Waves will charge you each year for this plugin - buy it once, pay forever.
I've been using this plugin for years and I paid once for it. You will only need to pay again if you want to update, which you may not find necessary. The plugin works and saves time. Besides there's more to vocal volume riding in relation to instrumentals than just splicing and adjusting gain.
@@chike1866 well I bought it too but can no longer install it because I haven't payed for the V12 upgrade plan.
Great video.Would you use a compressor after it since it feeds the right levels in ?Thanks !
Is there any better plugin to control your levels automatically ?