being mexican i can def relate to the feeling of being “whitewashed”. my parents went out of their way to give me a white name and thought that speaking english at home would be good bc i wouldn’t get a spanish accent. because of these things it’s always kinda been hard especially living in a predominantly mexican area, its heavily frowned upon to not know how to speak spanish fluently. personally I think that these things are far worse, i would rather have a non-white name and have a spanish accent if that means i could truly be connect to my culture.
I feel the same way tho I do speak Spanish it’s very broken and I grew up around all different type of people but I get very insecure with my Spanish or if I’m Latino enough
I grew up feeling whitewashed too. We moved when I was young, to a place where are extended family didn't live so I only saw them a few times a year. We kept mostly to ourselves so I didn't get to interact with other Mexicans in my community. I read so much because that's how I kept busy as a kid. But now I want to reconnect. As a more mature adult, I want to feel like I'm a part of my culturea but there's so much I've missed out on. I want to talk about issues that deeply affect my people but how do I talk to others when I don't know about the typical #chicana#latino etc things that everyone is supposed to know about and then harp on me for not knowing. I'm also from the central valley of CA so i haven't experienced the same things those from LA do just like they may not fully understand what it was like to be a kid growing up with migrant workers in the fields around the San Jose area. Defeating white supremacy is such a monumental task because we have to acknowledge and consider the varying experiences within one another, as much as we want to pretend everyone within the culture has dealt with the same things so that we can unite as one big force against the establishment.
Great video. Often when a non-black person says I'm articulate, I ask them if they've ever said that to someone that looks like them and is a native English speaker. I love the Tiktok video of the young woman asking about a bonnet. Not every black parent teaches their kids about their culture. Good point about having a solid foundation and understanding of self because otherwise you don't know where you stand. You hit the nail on the head by pointing out how some parents think that they are helping their kids by keeping them away from their roots so that an accent or personality trait won't keep them from future educational or job opportunities. Unfortunately, this deprives the child of their sense of self, culture, and identity. That lack of foundation can become an issue socially and later in adulthood. This video was very well done. I played bassoon and clarinet.
Idk I personally believe that a second generation immigrant is firmly a combination between the two cultures. I can never be seen as “fully American” by white and black Americans, but I’ll also never be seen as “fully Caribbean” since my tastes are quite different than most people in my culture. I wouldn’t be authentic to myself if I only conformed to my Caribbean culture because I wasn’t raised that way. I am truly a combination of two (and possibly more) different worlds as a second gen immigrant.
I was the first person in my family to be born in America (caribbean/ nigerian parents) and raised in a predominantely white suburb. I don't relate to anybody...I'm not "black" enough to relate to African Americans, I'm too American for my relatives. I don't feel stereotypically american because I'm not invested/ disgusted in the socio-political state of this country but I don't know where I could go in this world to be accepted. I feel so alone man....
You are right. The english language has destroyed some peoples connection to their original language and culture. I am glad you stay connected with your ancient language. If I could magically learn a musical instrument it would be the classical guitar.
9:56 this happened in my family, we are also Yoruba and my grandparents moved to the UK, had their kids (including my mum), deliberately avoided teaching them Yorùbá so as to avoid them “picking up an accent” and now my English ass is struggling to learn however many decades later, and my mum and aunts can’t speak a word. It’s a great loss. For those who want to japa, just make sure you actively teach your children. It will not happen via telepathy. It is *not* automatic, it takes effort.
I truly like how you just came from a place of emotional honesty. I also grew up in the suburbs myself and I speak how I speak. I just don't give a fuck any more on what people say. My blackness is evident regardless of my speech. But I'm a Scorpio so when people say some shit I feel some kinda way and make it my business to correct them. Whomever they are. I also took the time to learn my own culture and not disdain it. Calling someone ghetto is bullshit. Calling someone an oreo is bullshit. It irritates me to no end how easy we as a people tear each other down. I freed myself from that bit of mental slavery.
You make such a great point about society asking people to hide parts of themselves in the workplace or other situations and that we need to move away from that. Code switching is useful, especially with how society’s standards are right now (like “standard English” being taught in schools and “professionalism” in the workplace) but I think the goal should be to change those standards so that people don’t have to change themselves.
This was me - grew up going to white schools and living in white neighbourhoods far away from family, so there's a ton I didn't learn. Now I see how colonized my mindset was coming home repeating stuff I heard at school and not realizing how out of place it was. My mom was probly like this girl's mom too - I didn't know nothing about bonnets, but the one time I asked if I could get corn rows it was such a hard "no" I didn't ask again. Also, emphasis on the first syllable in "palatable." And all the As make the "ah" sound; no long "eh" in the middle.
Most of us learn the art of code-switching from negative experiences after speaking a certain kind of way. Code-switching is basically a modern form of communication accommodation theory and its practices. We converge when we are code-switching either for affiliation, opportunities and just wanting to be successful.
Very good video. I learned a lot of good stuff here, especially since I been through certain situations too for being “different” if you know what I’m saying🤦🏾♂️💯
I'm white but have lived in small towns where everyone else is related and I'm half european which is too foreign for lots of people. I had a roommate poison me because I said I don't hate Obama. Terrifying girl. I didn't know she was that hateful until it was too late. She got away with it too and I'm permanently damaged. Code switching is for survival. I can't do it well cause Im autistic but I understand why people do it. We all want to survive.
my situation is a little different, I'm Jamaican but my parents have also never really tried to make me the way I am, I just happened to watch a lot of American TV, I just happened to not like most dancehall, they did send me to prep school (I will say one good thing about prep school is I gradually began to finally learn Patois from there) and a school before that that ensured that I speak "proper" English, I just happened to love American music like Avril Laugvine etc. It's somewhat natural for me to code-switch, because when I speak to authority it seems natural to address them in a polite manner with "proper" English. the instrument for me is ironically Piano, I wish I learned as well as the cello, I love those instruments. also if you hold a gun to my head I could maybe attempt to play Happy Birthday, My national anthem, and the school hymn on recorder. bearing in mind I don't know the keys or which one is which, and I'll need sheet music on hand.
I am white. I will say that right off the bat, and I don't want to overstep or speak over people of color. I promise that I try my hardest to be a kind a respectful person to people of color and call out bias when I see it. That being said, this story for the most part isn't about me. I was raised in a small town in Utah, so I knew very few people of color growing up. There were three black people that I ever interacted with in my high school, and that was it. I moved to Hawaii for college, and it was eye-opening. I have been around so many people of color, both locals and international students, sometimes with very strong accents. This school is a blessing, and the students influence the teachings. When I took a TESOL class, we went over coherency, or the idea that a person doesn't have to speak a language perfectly if the listener understands. Anyways, my point: I've met a lot of people who speak pidgen (English with Hawaiian influence), and my supervisor at work slips into it both on the phone with her husband and around my other Polynesian supervisor. It took her a long time, about a year and a half at this point, to feel comfortable enough to switch out of the more "professional" accent she uses at work around me. And that's not fair, nor should it be expected of her to put on a closer-to-white accent for white comfort, because the words are the same either way. She makes the same points and does her job the exact same
Thank you so much for talking about this! Regardless of how a bl@ck person sounds, we are ALL still bl@ck. People need to just grow up and see the world for what it is. The world isn't a place where you can REALISTICALLY be YOU.( Especially if you are bl@ck.) Code switching is VERY annoying, but it can determineif someone has a roof over their head. It shouldn't have to be this way. I loved your take on this! Is it possible to do a mini segment/ video on white tears? I plan on doing one later on, but I'd love to know your take on it. (P.s. I use to play the keyboard for a hot minute...I wanted to play a piano later on.... But I guess that didn't happen..lol)
I don't know if I have the right input on that topic but as French Caribbean, I speak both French and Creole since childhood, (creole is our aave). My island is mostly black but we're a former French colony, so we learn France history, the language etc. I don't think that code switching is a problem when you can put in place a system that celebrate properly your culture. The people in my country fought hard to have creole recognize as a proper language, then they fought to have it put in our education's system the same way we had English and Spanish. "I want to add that even in France, not just in my island, creole is now an option of language". And now we even have our news in both language, which wasn't the case 3 years ago. What the actions that black Americans are taking to valorize their culture and language? I'm sincerely asking, because I do think there are so many ways to implement culture in our daily life that code switching shouldn't be that huge of a issue. Also, it might be a controversial idea, specially as an outsider looking in, but I do think that in America, standard english has to be the standard because it's the country recognize language. Japanese, Chinese and other country also have dialect, they also code switch, they implement culture in ways that they're able to have best of both worlds. A lot of word to say that it's not that deep.
There's been a small movement to recognize American Ebonics as a language instead of slang that holds certain kids back in school. I just don't think that there are enough speakers to warrant such a change, especially when there is so much cachet in knowing the latest cool vernacular. And it can go out of style just as quickly as it become popular. What would the standard words and phrases be, and would it change for different regions in the U.S? A country like Haiti, where most of the population already speaks creole casually in most settings is different. There was just an acknowledgement of an ongoing practice.
@@felixfreckleshyunjinmoleye6243 It was only French, Spanish, and English in Haitian schools as well. But the majority spoke colloquial Creole outside of its walls so there was a cultural dissonance.
@@mc2383 Schools in Haiti was always conducted in Haitian. We were just not taught the content in Haitian. As in, our books were/are in French, we’re taught French grammar for a language the majority of us didn’t speak and would never speak or read. That’s the difference. Also, Haitian was always the language the majority of us spoke. Once again, we were not given newspapers and government content in Haitian, but Haitian was always the language of the land. It was just not seen as proper. In fact, that is still an issue and an on-going battle in Haiti, I heard.
@@rosedalinevaletine6931 Thanks for the information. I'm using facts from an 80+ year old Haitian and certain individuals who went to private and international schools. They were forbidden from using Kreyol in the school building.
Even within Afrikans, Most Afrikan people who came from parents from different tribes & speak different tribal language, their kids can't speak either of the Afrikan languages their parents' tribe speak, cuz the only language that these parents can understand when speaking to each other is English in some cases French if they came from a Francophone country. So they end up speaking only English (or French) to their kids cuz both mom & dad can speak & understand it. But if for example, a child's Dad is Yoruba and the Mom is Igbo, ONLY if the mom can speak Yoruba too or the Dad can speak Igbo too will they use their Afrikan language as the main language spoken in the house. It's not just inter-tribal couples. It also goes for Interracial couples where one parent is from an Afrikan country but the other is European/white. Their kids will end up only being spoken to in English or whatever European language the couple can both speak & understand since it's not common for inter-tribal & inter-racial couples to not have a language both can speak & understand cuz they woulda never been able to verbally communicate with each other with understanding to begin with. That's why half Afrikan biracial ppl living abroad & can still speak their Afrikan parent's language is like 99% rare. They speak the official language of the Non-Afrikan country they were raised in.
You're on point with this. My mum is Ebira, dad's Nupe/Yoruba and yoruba is the only language both understand. Here I am with only yoruba as my first language, no ebira or nupe involved.
So, what is it called when its mostly white people. In the UK you have those who code switch between standard English for radio, TV/movies and their regional accents. And then you have whites here in the USA who go to speech coaches to be able to change their accents (mostly actors and those in Public Communication roles). Do they consider it a loss of their authentic culture to do this in order to advance in their field of choice? There are also a lot of Southerners who can code switch on a dime regardless of race.
So the part where you're talking about we need to leave people alone that are trying to relate to the culture Just having Black skin is enough I need for you to know this because Black is not a monolith so I don't know what "culture" you're talking about
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being mexican i can def relate to the feeling of being “whitewashed”. my parents went out of their way to give me a white name and thought that speaking english at home would be good bc i wouldn’t get a spanish accent. because of these things it’s always kinda been hard especially living in a predominantly mexican area, its heavily frowned upon to not know how to speak spanish fluently. personally I think that these things are far worse, i would rather have a non-white name and have a spanish accent if that means i could truly be connect to my culture.
I feel the same way tho I do speak Spanish it’s very broken and I grew up around all different type of people but I get very insecure with my Spanish or if I’m Latino enough
I grew up feeling whitewashed too. We moved when I was young, to a place where are extended family didn't live so I only saw them a few times a year. We kept mostly to ourselves so I didn't get to interact with other Mexicans in my community. I read so much because that's how I kept busy as a kid. But now I want to reconnect. As a more mature adult, I want to feel like I'm a part of my culturea but there's so much I've missed out on. I want to talk about issues that deeply affect my people but how do I talk to others when I don't know about the typical #chicana#latino etc things that everyone is supposed to know about and then harp on me for not knowing. I'm also from the central valley of CA so i haven't experienced the same things those from LA do just like they may not fully understand what it was like to be a kid growing up with migrant workers in the fields around the San Jose area. Defeating white supremacy is such a monumental task because we have to acknowledge and consider the varying experiences within one another, as much as we want to pretend everyone within the culture has dealt with the same things so that we can unite as one big force against the establishment.
im the girl from tiktok who asked about bonnets!!! i can’t believe you noticed me!!! ur so pretty and i love ur videos ❤️
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Great video.
Often when a non-black person says I'm articulate, I ask them if they've ever said that to someone that looks like them and is a native English speaker.
I love the Tiktok video of the young woman asking about a bonnet. Not every black parent teaches their kids about their culture.
Good point about having a solid foundation and understanding of self because otherwise you don't know where you stand.
You hit the nail on the head by pointing out how some parents think that they are helping their kids by keeping them away from their roots so that an accent or personality trait won't keep them from future educational or job opportunities. Unfortunately, this deprives the child of their sense of self, culture, and identity. That lack of foundation can become an issue socially and later in adulthood.
This video was very well done.
I played bassoon and clarinet.
some people complain about the most mediocre things.
I have to agree with this although I’m black
What is your point?
Thats what
this youtube account is about
Idk I personally believe that a second generation immigrant is firmly a combination between the two cultures. I can never be seen as “fully American” by white and black Americans, but I’ll also never be seen as “fully Caribbean” since my tastes are quite different than most people in my culture. I wouldn’t be authentic to myself if I only conformed to my Caribbean culture because I wasn’t raised that way. I am truly a combination of two (and possibly more) different worlds as a second gen immigrant.
I was the first person in my family to be born in America (caribbean/ nigerian parents) and raised in a predominantely white suburb. I don't relate to anybody...I'm not "black" enough to relate to African Americans, I'm too American for my relatives. I don't feel stereotypically american because I'm not invested/ disgusted in the socio-political state of this country but I don't know where I could go in this world to be accepted. I feel so alone man....
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You are right. The english language has destroyed some peoples connection to their original language and culture. I am glad you stay connected with your ancient language. If I could magically learn a musical instrument it would be the classical guitar.
9:56 this happened in my family, we are also Yoruba and my grandparents moved to the UK, had their kids (including my mum), deliberately avoided teaching them Yorùbá so as to avoid them “picking up an accent” and now my English ass is struggling to learn however many decades later, and my mum and aunts can’t speak a word. It’s a great loss. For those who want to japa, just make sure you actively teach your children. It will not happen via telepathy. It is *not* automatic, it takes effort.
I truly like how you just came from a place of emotional honesty. I also grew up in the suburbs myself and I speak how I speak. I just don't give a fuck any more on what people say. My blackness is evident regardless of my speech. But I'm a Scorpio so when people say some shit I feel some kinda way and make it my business to correct them. Whomever they are. I also took the time to learn my own culture and not disdain it. Calling someone ghetto is bullshit. Calling someone an oreo is bullshit. It irritates me to no end how easy we as a people tear each other down. I freed myself from that bit of mental slavery.
I fall in love with your channel every video 😌
You make such a great point about society asking people to hide parts of themselves in the workplace or other situations and that we need to move away from that. Code switching is useful, especially with how society’s standards are right now (like “standard English” being taught in schools and “professionalism” in the workplace) but I think the goal should be to change those standards so that people don’t have to change themselves.
This was me - grew up going to white schools and living in white neighbourhoods far away from family, so there's a ton I didn't learn. Now I see how colonized my mindset was coming home repeating stuff I heard at school and not realizing how out of place it was. My mom was probly like this girl's mom too - I didn't know nothing about bonnets, but the one time I asked if I could get corn rows it was such a hard "no" I didn't ask again.
Also, emphasis on the first syllable in "palatable." And all the As make the "ah" sound; no long "eh" in the middle.
Most of us learn the art of code-switching from negative experiences after speaking a certain kind of way. Code-switching is basically a modern form of communication accommodation theory and its practices. We converge when we are code-switching either for affiliation, opportunities and just wanting to be successful.
Very good video. I learned a lot of good stuff here, especially since I been through certain situations too for being “different” if you know what I’m saying🤦🏾♂️💯
I'm white but have lived in small towns where everyone else is related and I'm half european which is too foreign for lots of people. I had a roommate poison me because I said I don't hate Obama. Terrifying girl. I didn't know she was that hateful until it was too late. She got away with it too and I'm permanently damaged. Code switching is for survival. I can't do it well cause Im autistic but I understand why people do it. We all want to survive.
I'm so sorry you had to interact with such an evil person
my situation is a little different, I'm Jamaican but my parents have also never really tried to make me the way I am, I just happened to watch a lot of American TV, I just happened to not like most dancehall, they did send me to prep school (I will say one good thing about prep school is I gradually began to finally learn Patois from there) and a school before that that ensured that I speak "proper" English, I just happened to love American music like Avril Laugvine etc. It's somewhat natural for me to code-switch, because when I speak to authority it seems natural to address them in a polite manner with "proper" English. the instrument for me is ironically Piano, I wish I learned as well as the cello, I love those instruments. also if you hold a gun to my head I could maybe attempt to play Happy Birthday, My national anthem, and the school hymn on recorder. bearing in mind I don't know the keys or which one is which, and I'll need sheet music on hand.
I am white. I will say that right off the bat, and I don't want to overstep or speak over people of color. I promise that I try my hardest to be a kind a respectful person to people of color and call out bias when I see it. That being said, this story for the most part isn't about me.
I was raised in a small town in Utah, so I knew very few people of color growing up. There were three black people that I ever interacted with in my high school, and that was it. I moved to Hawaii for college, and it was eye-opening. I have been around so many people of color, both locals and international students, sometimes with very strong accents. This school is a blessing, and the students influence the teachings. When I took a TESOL class, we went over coherency, or the idea that a person doesn't have to speak a language perfectly if the listener understands.
Anyways, my point: I've met a lot of people who speak pidgen (English with Hawaiian influence), and my supervisor at work slips into it both on the phone with her husband and around my other Polynesian supervisor. It took her a long time, about a year and a half at this point, to feel comfortable enough to switch out of the more "professional" accent she uses at work around me. And that's not fair, nor should it be expected of her to put on a closer-to-white accent for white comfort, because the words are the same either way. She makes the same points and does her job the exact same
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I appreciated this discussion. My lifelong goal is one day the violin.
Thank you so much for talking about this! Regardless of how a bl@ck person sounds, we are ALL still bl@ck. People need to just grow up and see the world for what it is. The world isn't a place where you can REALISTICALLY be YOU.( Especially if you are bl@ck.) Code switching is VERY annoying, but it can determineif someone has a roof over their head. It shouldn't have to be this way.
I loved your take on this!
Is it possible to do a mini segment/ video on white tears?
I plan on doing one later on, but I'd love to know your take on it.
(P.s. I use to play the keyboard for a hot minute...I wanted to play a piano later on.... But I guess that didn't happen..lol)
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I don't know if I have the right input on that topic but as French Caribbean, I speak both French and Creole since childhood, (creole is our aave). My island is mostly black but we're a former French colony, so we learn France history, the language etc. I don't think that code switching is a problem when you can put in place a system that celebrate properly your culture. The people in my country fought hard to have creole recognize as a proper language, then they fought to have it put in our education's system the same way we had English and Spanish. "I want to add that even in France, not just in my island, creole is now an option of language". And now we even have our news in both language, which wasn't the case 3 years ago. What the actions that black Americans are taking to valorize their culture and language? I'm sincerely asking, because I do think there are so many ways to implement culture in our daily life that code switching shouldn't be that huge of a issue. Also, it might be a controversial idea, specially as an outsider looking in, but I do think that in America, standard english has to be the standard because it's the country recognize language. Japanese, Chinese and other country also have dialect, they also code switch, they implement culture in ways that they're able to have best of both worlds. A lot of word to say that it's not that deep.
There's been a small movement to recognize American Ebonics as a language instead of slang that holds certain kids back in school. I just don't think that there are enough speakers to warrant such a change, especially when there is so much cachet in knowing the latest cool vernacular. And it can go out of style just as quickly as it become popular. What would the standard words and phrases be, and would it change for different regions in the U.S?
A country like Haiti, where most of the population already speaks creole casually in most settings is different. There was just an acknowledgement of an ongoing practice.
@@mc2383 I'm from Guadeloupe, my mom was forbidden to speak creole when she went to school, it wasn't an ongoing practice, my people made it so
@@felixfreckleshyunjinmoleye6243 It was only French, Spanish, and English in Haitian schools as well. But the majority spoke colloquial Creole outside of its walls so there was a cultural dissonance.
@@mc2383 Schools in Haiti was always conducted in Haitian. We were just not taught the content in Haitian. As in, our books were/are in French, we’re taught French grammar for a language the majority of us didn’t speak and would never speak or read. That’s the difference. Also, Haitian was always the language the majority of us spoke. Once again, we were not given newspapers and government content in Haitian, but Haitian was always the language of the land. It was just not seen as proper. In fact, that is still an issue and an on-going battle in Haiti, I heard.
@@rosedalinevaletine6931 Thanks for the information. I'm using facts from an 80+ year old Haitian and certain individuals who went to private and international schools. They were forbidden from using Kreyol in the school building.
im not whitewashed because i connect deeply with my culture
Even within Afrikans, Most Afrikan people who came from parents from different tribes & speak different tribal language, their kids can't speak either of the Afrikan languages their parents' tribe speak, cuz the only language that these parents can understand when speaking to each other is English in some cases French if they came from a Francophone country. So they end up speaking only English (or French) to their kids cuz both mom & dad can speak & understand it. But if for example, a child's Dad is Yoruba and the Mom is Igbo, ONLY if the mom can speak Yoruba too or the Dad can speak Igbo too will they use their Afrikan language as the main language spoken in the house.
It's not just inter-tribal couples. It also goes for Interracial couples where one parent is from an Afrikan country but the other is European/white. Their kids will end up only being spoken to in English or whatever European language the couple can both speak & understand since it's not common for inter-tribal & inter-racial couples to not have a language both can speak & understand cuz they woulda never been able to verbally communicate with each other with understanding to begin with. That's why half Afrikan biracial ppl living abroad & can still speak their Afrikan parent's language is like 99% rare. They speak the official language of the Non-Afrikan country they were raised in.
You're on point with this. My mum is Ebira, dad's Nupe/Yoruba and yoruba is the only language both understand. Here I am with only yoruba as my first language, no ebira or nupe involved.
So, what is it called when its mostly white people. In the UK you have those who code switch between standard English for radio, TV/movies and their regional accents. And then you have whites here in the USA who go to speech coaches to be able to change their accents (mostly actors and those in Public Communication roles). Do they consider it a loss of their authentic culture to do this in order to advance in their field of choice? There are also a lot of Southerners who can code switch on a dime regardless of race.
That’s true.
So the part where you're talking about we need to leave people alone that are trying to relate to the culture Just having Black skin is enough I need for you to know this because Black is not a monolith so I don't know what "culture" you're talking about
Omg I literally made a video talking about this topic. Please check it out. 🙏🏽 Brilliant video btw and how you broke everything down, *chefs kiss*
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