Seeing them with these baby faces (both Ellie and Abby look younger in this) is going to be a whole other vibe with how BRUTAL it's going to be. I love both versions, I have faith in season 2 because season 1 was phenomenal but part 2 did seem kind of unadaptable at first so it'll definitely be very interesting to see!
kaitlyn dever was so pushed and loved by game fans so much to be Ellie and was still being hyped even after the show was aired that hopefully the love for her will kinda negate all the bad feelings they'll have for her character. 🤞 hopefully. Has there been any backlash since her casting? I haven't seen any yet so far, but might just be me
i think ellie not looking that much older doesn’t matter much for tv. actors play characters of different ages all the time, i think people will suspend their disbelief a bit for it and people who haven’t played the game won’t even notice. yeah she looks the same but i’m sure she will act and sound different just like she did in the game
Sounds like dever is gonna have to turn off her insta comments 😅. I didnt play the game but i heard what happens and i will hate her character (i love pedro 😭), but i can separate character from actor. And yes, I get the irony bc i see joel as pedro lol.
While I understand your reticence to accept Bella for season (game) two, there are some people who look perpetually young throughout their lives. I'm in my late 50s, and people say I still look like I'm in my mid 40s. So please, don't do what others are doing on various message boards and forums. She is Ellie going forward, this according to both Neil Druckmann and Craig Mazin. And what occurs in a video game within the female form, is not always physically possible in the real world. All I ask is to please not be so hypercritical of Bella. I haven't played the game and have no intention. Bella is playing THIS Ellie, not THAT Ellie.
Exactly! It’s always surprising to me when people say Bella looks "too young." She actually looks like a teenager, which is exactly what Ellie is! Ellie is 19 at the start, and I don’t get why people expect you to look old and sophisticated the moment you turn 18. I’m 21, the same age as Bella, and I also have a baby face. Also, Bella genuinely looks 19 to me. I think we're so used to thirty year old actors playing teenagers we forget how young teenagers should be looking!
I haven't been hypercritical at all. I just said I was somewhat cautious. I thought she was great in season 1. But that 5 year time gap is a very significant part of the story, both thematically and via the use of multiple flashbacks. It can be difficult to bring those things across when your actor looks the exact same at 19 as they did at 14
People are not mad that Bella looks young. They are mad that they don't look any different than they did in season 1, given that the time gap is a very important part of the story
@@mache1009the thing is also that Bella Ramsey is European. Europeans tend to have different, younger looking facial structures because of dietary differences [IE a lot of US food supplements are not accepted in Europe, incl. food hormones that are incl in for instance US beef and pork products]
@@mache1009 Here's the thing. Ellie in the game was created from a game engine. Whatever she is bears no resemblance to what a real girl that age looks like. Heck, even Ashley Johnson at the age Ellie is supposed to be, doesn't look like Ellie does in the game. Ellie in the game is to a degree a guy's wet dream. She looks old enough to screw, but young enough to fantasize. And that is the cold hard truth.
@@SleepyWaffles I thought the plot of the second game was overly simplistic. The theme that - hey guys revenge is bad and can lead you down a path, was a departure from several relevant themes in the first game of loss, fatherhood, community, survival, and other facets of surviving in a post apocalyptic wasteland. It was almost like an edge lord wrote the second script. One guy said it best, when he stated that the plot for the second game was meant to elicit feelings of, "Oh man I can not believe they did that!", instead of writing a coherent, well constructed narrative. Worst of all, Joel in the second game, was used as a plot device to cement this edge lord narrative. The audience knows that revenge is bad, and therefore wanted something more fleshed out. The writers half assed the plot of the second game instead choosing to focus on spectacle. This is what HBO should fix.
@biashacker I couldn't disagree more. In my opinion the second game is a masterpiece. A story that not only touches on the idea of the cyclical nature of revenge, but also regret, redemption, loss, love, grief and forgiveness. If all you got from the fake is that "revenge is bad" then I'm afraid it's not the plot that is overly simplistic, it's you.
@@SleepyWaffles Come on Sleepy Waffles you can do better than that. That weak veiled attempt at an insult. You can disagree - who cares. It is my opinion. To be honest I really do not care what you think. I have surpassed weak men like yourself long ago. You asked me a question I answered it; with much more tact I might add. Dude do not even respond to this. I will not read it. I will not respond to your juvenile insults. Guys like you do not last long in life. "Its you." What a punk you are.
"I will cease my speaking here" is actually a great way to end a video 😂😂
Seeing them with these baby faces (both Ellie and Abby look younger in this) is going to be a whole other vibe with how BRUTAL it's going to be. I love both versions, I have faith in season 2 because season 1 was phenomenal but part 2 did seem kind of unadaptable at first so it'll definitely be very interesting to see!
kaitlyn dever was so pushed and loved by game fans so much to be Ellie and was still being hyped even after the show was aired that hopefully the love for her will kinda negate all the bad feelings they'll have for her character. 🤞 hopefully. Has there been any backlash since her casting? I haven't seen any yet so far, but might just be me
Supposedly it already begun because they got her extra security and some actors commented on this like a month ago if I am not mistaken.
I mean she's only getting hate right now for being a zionist.
Abby and Ellie look so much alike and that is probably intentional given they're mirrors of one another.
I`m so ready.
Btw, u have gorgeous eyes 😍
Why do I have to love pedro pascal….he takes roles that hurt me
i don't think this abby will be hated. tbh. maybe i'm naive.. but that has passed. lol .........anyone up for golf?
I was waiting for your reaction all day!
I can't get through that again...the only reason why I don re-play TLoU2...😭
Thank you, Derek! 🧟♀
i think ellie not looking that much older doesn’t matter much for tv. actors play characters of different ages all the time, i think people will suspend their disbelief a bit for it and people who haven’t played the game won’t even notice. yeah she looks the same but i’m sure she will act and sound different just like she did in the game
I discovered you (I think...) because of TLOU. Or Vox Machina.. I can't remember. REGARDLESS, I'm so pumped for season 2!
9:06 *Regardless
Sounds like dever is gonna have to turn off her insta comments 😅. I didnt play the game but i heard what happens and i will hate her character (i love pedro 😭), but i can separate character from actor. And yes, I get the irony bc i see joel as pedro lol.
While I understand your reticence to accept Bella for season (game) two, there are some people who look perpetually young throughout their lives. I'm in my late 50s, and people say I still look like I'm in my mid 40s. So please, don't do what others are doing on various message boards and forums. She is Ellie going forward, this according to both Neil Druckmann and Craig Mazin. And what occurs in a video game within the female form, is not always physically possible in the real world. All I ask is to please not be so hypercritical of Bella. I haven't played the game and have no intention. Bella is playing THIS Ellie, not THAT Ellie.
Exactly! It’s always surprising to me when people say Bella looks "too young." She actually looks like a teenager, which is exactly what Ellie is! Ellie is 19 at the start, and I don’t get why people expect you to look old and sophisticated the moment you turn 18. I’m 21, the same age as Bella, and I also have a baby face. Also, Bella genuinely looks 19 to me. I think we're so used to thirty year old actors playing teenagers we forget how young teenagers should be looking!
I haven't been hypercritical at all. I just said I was somewhat cautious. I thought she was great in season 1. But that 5 year time gap is a very significant part of the story, both thematically and via the use of multiple flashbacks. It can be difficult to bring those things across when your actor looks the exact same at 19 as they did at 14
People are not mad that Bella looks young. They are mad that they don't look any different than they did in season 1, given that the time gap is a very important part of the story
@@mache1009the thing is also that Bella Ramsey is European. Europeans tend to have different, younger looking facial structures because of dietary differences [IE a lot of US food supplements are not accepted in Europe, incl. food hormones that are incl in for instance US beef and pork products]
@@mache1009 Here's the thing. Ellie in the game was created from a game engine. Whatever she is bears no resemblance to what a real girl that age looks like. Heck, even Ashley Johnson at the age Ellie is supposed to be, doesn't look like Ellie does in the game. Ellie in the game is to a degree a guy's wet dream. She looks old enough to screw, but young enough to fantasize. And that is the cold hard truth.
The actor who played Joffrey (Jack Gleason??) on GoT quit acting for many years because of how awful people were to him.
Don't forget that Bella Ramsey uses they/them. Ellie is she/her.
I do not know how HBO is going to fix this........,
What do you mean? Fix what?
@@SleepyWaffles I thought the plot of the second game was overly simplistic. The theme that - hey guys revenge is bad and can lead you down a path, was a departure from several relevant themes in the first game of loss, fatherhood, community, survival, and other facets of surviving in a post apocalyptic wasteland. It was almost like an edge lord wrote the second script.
One guy said it best, when he stated that the plot for the second game was meant to elicit feelings of, "Oh man I can not believe they did that!", instead of writing a coherent, well constructed narrative. Worst of all, Joel in the second game, was used as a plot device to cement this edge lord narrative. The audience knows that revenge is bad, and therefore wanted something more fleshed out. The writers half assed the plot of the second game instead choosing to focus on spectacle. This is what HBO should fix.
@biashacker I couldn't disagree more. In my opinion the second game is a masterpiece. A story that not only touches on the idea of the cyclical nature of revenge, but also regret, redemption, loss, love, grief and forgiveness. If all you got from the fake is that "revenge is bad" then I'm afraid it's not the plot that is overly simplistic, it's you.
@@SleepyWaffles Come on Sleepy Waffles you can do better than that. That weak veiled attempt at an insult. You can disagree - who cares. It is my opinion. To be honest I really do not care what you think. I have surpassed weak men like yourself long ago. You asked me a question I answered it; with much more tact I might add. Dude do not even respond to this. I will not read it. I will not respond to your juvenile insults. Guys like you do not last long in life. "Its you." What a punk you are.
@@SleepyWaffles Like I said, W-E-A-K