I think his conterfeit bottles that are still in existence might become collectibles or become even more expensive than the bottles it is an imitation of because this is part of wine history now. It's the same with some very famous art counterfeiters which fakes are now fetching huge numbers. I would never get rid of a fake if I had one :D
@@erikbongnilsson246 Depends. I wouldn’t take a fake 1990 DRC if I could have the genuine article. But if he made a knock-off of Blue Nun? Yeah, I’d take the fake!🙂
@@Lpreilly72 I agree with you there! I wouldn't either absolutely not if I wanted to taste the real deal. I'm purely speculating about the potential market value, for the colectibility. But what would be really ironic is if it turns out these wines aged exceptionally and made people go crazy for them because of taste as well lol :)
@@erikbongnilsson246 Yes. But I doubt it. His DRCs were blends of cheaper wines from Napa and Sonoma. And, to listen to most sommeliers and burgundy fanatics, when you tasted the wines they were obvious fakes. (I wouldn’t know because I refuse to spend $16k on a bottle of wine.) Sour Grapes and that other doc made this clear. There was that burgundy expert and, with his friends, opened a case of Rudy’s wines from that auction. He said almost all were obvious fakes. Rudy was a super taster, that’s what got him his rep, but his wines were sh*t! Kinda ironic!
@@erikbongnilsson246 and don’t forget his charm and everyone’s current desire to understand him. The record of Rudy’s family in Indonesia is remarkable for its alleged criminality. Buts that’s never mentioned by his defenders/victims. They have my sympathy, however. The damage scammers cause far exceeds any monetary loss. And when you look deeper, you’ll find that the real victims aren’t the super rich, but ordinary people. Rudy did real damage to the wine industry and the people who pay the price are the pickers, shippers, vintners, processors, distributors right down to that wine shop on Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills, where Rudy sold his first bottle. No millionaires there. Not even the owner of the shop.
Rudy didn’t just scam the rich. He did real, serious damage to the wine industry when it could least afford it and that affected the jobs of pickers, processors, shippers, vintners, distributors right down to that small wine shop on Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills where Rudy sold his first bottle. They pay the price for Rudy’s Bugatti.
fr2024_1023_星三, Ma question bête : Il ne parle pas français, il n'écrit pas français, il avait 25ans à l'époque des faits. Comment a-t-il pu connaître tous ces grands crus français ( Bourgogne ) de renommées mondiales ? Ses achats aux enchères suffisaient-elles pour apprendre ?
How can you pronounce his name wrong so many times in 10 minutes...
Such a waste of talent... Obviously, Rudy's palate is superb.... would have been so much better to put it to good use in the business.
I think his conterfeit bottles that are still in existence might become collectibles or become even more expensive than the bottles it is an imitation of because this is part of wine history now. It's the same with some very famous art counterfeiters which fakes are now fetching huge numbers. I would never get rid of a fake if I had one :D
@@erikbongnilsson246 Depends. I wouldn’t take a fake 1990 DRC if I could have the genuine article. But if he made a knock-off of Blue Nun? Yeah, I’d take the fake!🙂
@@Lpreilly72 I agree with you there! I wouldn't either absolutely not if I wanted to taste the real deal. I'm purely speculating about the potential market value, for the colectibility. But what would be really ironic is if it turns out these wines aged exceptionally and made people go crazy for them because of taste as well lol :)
@@erikbongnilsson246 Yes. But I doubt it. His DRCs were blends of cheaper wines from Napa and Sonoma. And, to listen to most sommeliers and burgundy fanatics, when you tasted the wines they were obvious fakes. (I wouldn’t know because I refuse to spend $16k on a bottle of wine.) Sour Grapes and that other doc made this clear. There was that burgundy expert and, with his friends, opened a case of Rudy’s wines from that auction. He said almost all were obvious fakes. Rudy was a super taster, that’s what got him his rep, but his wines were sh*t! Kinda ironic!
@@erikbongnilsson246 and don’t forget his charm and everyone’s current desire to understand him. The record of Rudy’s family in Indonesia is remarkable for its alleged criminality. Buts that’s never mentioned by his defenders/victims. They have my sympathy, however. The damage scammers cause far exceeds any monetary loss. And when you look deeper, you’ll find that the real victims aren’t the super rich, but ordinary people. Rudy did real damage to the wine industry and the people who pay the price are the pickers, shippers, vintners, processors, distributors right down to that wine shop on Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills, where Rudy sold his first bottle. No millionaires there. Not even the owner of the shop.
Rudy didn’t just scam the rich. He did real, serious damage to the wine industry when it could least afford it and that affected the jobs of pickers, processors, shippers, vintners, distributors right down to that small wine shop on Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills where Rudy sold his first bottle. They pay the price for Rudy’s Bugatti.
fr2024_1023_星三,
Ma question bête :
Il ne parle pas français, il n'écrit pas français, il avait 25ans à l'époque des faits.
Comment a-t-il pu connaître tous ces grands crus français ( Bourgogne ) de renommées mondiales ?
Ses achats aux enchères suffisaient-elles pour apprendre ?
Lol. More power to him