200-YEAR-OLD WINE from a Subscriber's Collection - Will I survive this?!

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @finest_vintage_spirits
    @finest_vintage_spirits Год назад +1363

    I am overwhelmed by so many positive comments and people thanking me for donating this wine for the tasting. However, I am especially thankful to Konstantin for giving me this opportunity and for the amazing experience!!

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Год назад +108

      Thank you for sharing the wine with us!

    • @finest_vintage_spirits
      @finest_vintage_spirits Год назад +8

      @Godrulez7 🤣

    • @finest_vintage_spirits
      @finest_vintage_spirits Год назад +23

      @@user-sg2cm4vq5k I can´t put it into words as good as Konstantin. But it´s definitely one of the best Madeira Wines (and Wines in general) I ever tasted. I once had the chance to taste a 1850 D´Oliveiras Madeira. It was bottled in 2016 so it rested 166 Years (!) in a cask. You could really taste this intense and complex flavour of wood. Here it was similar. You can definitely taste that this wine stayed in a cask for a very long time.

    • @finest_vintage_spirits
      @finest_vintage_spirits Год назад +7

      @Godrulez7 I have one more bottle as you can see in the video. But I don´t sell it. If you google I.B. Hinker´s Madeira you will still find a german seller still offering one bottle I think.

    • @DarthJabba504
      @DarthJabba504 Год назад +1

      Wow, thank you for sharing the wines. It was very interesting and unique. You helped expand wine knowledge with the world.

  • @flitcroftLA
    @flitcroftLA 8 месяцев назад +13

    My brother got to taste a 1786 Madeira -- from before the US constitution was signed -- when a restaurant closed 20 years. I'm still jealous to this day. He described it similar to the wine in this video but added that every drop that touched his tongue lingered for at least 3 minutes. One glass could likely last you an entire day.

  • @Poogoo701
    @Poogoo701 Год назад +219

    Can't wait for the future where we can try 200 year old Franzia blush zinfandel.

  • @barath4545
    @barath4545 Год назад +127

    It's probably a Solera, or, it was shipped in cask to Germany and bottled between 1890-1925, in Germany, hence the newer cork and the label at all (Madeira from Madeira usually had chalked letters and no labels back then). Or both, could be cask that was topped off in Madeira over time and then shipped in the 1890-1925 span.
    Reasoning being for the time span is that the design of the label very much looks like some bottles I had from 1921, 1934, etc of another probably German or Danish bottling of Margaux (the muncipality, sadly not Chateau Margaux), which would fit the theory. That pastel colored, white background, simple but colored design just fits that period.

    • @finest_vintage_spirits
      @finest_vintage_spirits Год назад +22

      I think this time window is very realistic. Also because we know that J.B. Hinker´s was active back then. But you can really taste that the wine spent a very long time in a barrel. So it´s possible that it was harvested in 1825 or at least not much later.

  • @matthewelliott2213
    @matthewelliott2213 Год назад +272

    Thanks to Sebastian--seems like a sweet guy. Great episode--full of history. Imagine what that bottle has seen.

    • @steve.schatz
      @steve.schatz Год назад

      Ditto. Thanks Sebastian!

    • @Birdylockso
      @Birdylockso Год назад +8

      The bottle has seen the darkness of a dank cellar for most of its 200 years, and that's the way it should be. 😂

    • @ChaosCrischen
      @ChaosCrischen Год назад +5

      It has seen nothing. It has no eyes.
      Sorry, my dry german humour could not resist :D

    • @pilsplease7561
      @pilsplease7561 Год назад +1

      @@ChaosCrischen lol, classic german. Oldest wine I ever had was from the 70's and I am a winemaker I just dont want to pay what people want for older wines if someone offered some for me to try i would buy i am not going to pay for it.

    • @flynick
      @flynick Год назад

      That hat
      Is disturbing

  • @carsonw8223
    @carsonw8223 Год назад +252

    "History smells like raisins, toffee, and a touch of glue." - Konstantin Baum

  • @thewarroom2882
    @thewarroom2882 Год назад +64

    My uncle has a 1815 Madeira bottle. I’ve been trying to get him to open it. It has no label only white letters. The oldest I’ve tasted was a 1863 Madeira. Amazing experience. Great video!

    • @keiranthomson1073
      @keiranthomson1073 Год назад +11

      Don’t open it!! let it be something that you pass down or something cause could u imagine if it was 2050 and you had an 1815 bottle? It’d be crazy

    • @blissfuldj7627
      @blissfuldj7627 8 месяцев назад

      @@keiranthomson1073 cant take it with you when you pass on, and its just going to get less stable overtime statistically speaking

  • @AShiga
    @AShiga Год назад +66

    Despite fortified wines easily lasting for a 100 years, getting hold of a drinkable 200-year bottle automatically grants 100 points on my hypothetical score 😜 It wouldn't get there without quality and it is liquid history before anything else😊

  • @JabadSBS
    @JabadSBS Год назад +51

    Those lines are from the 3 piece mold where the bottle was shaped, not 3 pieces of glass soldered together. Bottles are shaped like lightbulbs, taking a blob of molten glass and blowing the inside with air while enclosing the glass into a mold.

  • @scottwalker2701
    @scottwalker2701 8 месяцев назад +3

    love the fact your drinking a bottle of wine from the time when Napoleon was just defeated and exiled.

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 24 дня назад

      Battle of Waterloo was 1815 not 1825 both of you don’t know 💩 about history

    • @scottwalker2701
      @scottwalker2701 23 дня назад +1

      @@LemonHead-sq5ws Thanks for the textbook recap, professor! Now that we all know you passed Napoleonic History 101, maybe you can work on brushing up that sense of humour. This is a wine video, not a dissertation defence-no need to stomp around like Napoleon himself. Enjoy the internet for once; it won’t cost you a Waterloo. 🍷😉"

  • @tonimahoni2607
    @tonimahoni2607 Год назад +26

    An absolute amazing experience. Thanks Sebastian and Konstantin for sharing it with us !

  • @andrewwebster15
    @andrewwebster15 Год назад +80

    Many thanks to the generosity of this subscriber. You’ve educated and brought joy to many of us!

  • @danfarmer5613
    @danfarmer5613 Год назад +27

    Konstantin, you do such a great job of describing your experience, that it's almost like we're tasting it. Thank You

  • @jlozano2014
    @jlozano2014 Год назад +50

    Even if it was stored in casks or whatever in 1825 then bottled later, it's still wine from 1825. Incredible.

  • @SimonDorval
    @SimonDorval Год назад +1

    wow!!! cool, thanks for charing this opportunity.

  • @OnceUponAVine
    @OnceUponAVine Год назад +3

    Konstantin - I only recently (4 or 5 months ago) found your RUclips channel when I was doing my WSET Level 3 exam and I cannot begin to tell you how much I enjoy watching your videos. Elegant, articulate and fascinating. I've enjoyed drinking wines for more than 40 years and have been passing along my knowledge and insights to friends and family by hosting wine tasting events in recent years. Would LOVE to meet you one of these days, and share a great bottle of wine with you ! Cheers, M.

  • @johnsenttv
    @johnsenttv Год назад +3

    Was nen gutes Video danke dir!

  • @d_dave7200
    @d_dave7200 Год назад +4

    Wow, what a treat! Amazing that he shared it with us. I would never have thought such tastings vicariously through you would be so enjoyable to watch, but they really are. Love these old bottle videos.

  • @TheWinezen
    @TheWinezen Год назад +3

    Thank you Sebatian and Thank you Konstantin for sharing this experience with us all.

  • @charliep9066
    @charliep9066 Год назад +6

    Wow, I wish I could taste this wine !!! Thanks for sharing the experience, Kostnatin!

  • @frederickheard2022
    @frederickheard2022 Год назад +3

    I thought Konstantin was going to cry when he first smelled the wine

  • @RedRoverTW
    @RedRoverTW Год назад +8

    Thanks for sharing Portuguese fortified wine, which I love. I once tried a 1933 Broadbent Madeira. Even young Madeira like Barbeito 10-year Verdelho or Sercial is wonderful. Please feature more Portuguese wine.

  • @Ronny-ql8zi
    @Ronny-ql8zi Год назад +5

    Hello, I'm Ronny, a dealer in old wines near Munich. The year 1825 was the year the Hinkers company was founded. However, it cannot be found out whether it was a Hinkers 1825-1925 anniversary bottling or whether it was the Madeira from 1825. I bought a total of over 30 of these bottles about 6-7 years ago from an old wine dealer in Munich. He had these bottles from the family that had hidden all of Hinker's wines and spirits before World War II. After the war was over, it was agreed that Hinker would pick up his wines again. Unfortunately, no one ever reported there again, so we have to assume that none of the family members survived the war. I then put these bottles up for auction on eBay and got an average of €300 per bottle. The wine dealer charged me €25 per bottle. Best regards

  • @williamrobinson7435
    @williamrobinson7435 Год назад +4

    Go on, have another. A special 'thank you' to Sebastian for showing us this. Its an especial delight when a big old wine like this comes through.. You must be pleased! I do like these glasses you're using for these wines, they're great for showing the complex colours, with the green tint. Interesting that the difference between Sercial & Bual becomes blurred with age. I would be interested to know more about this. Nice one Konstantin! 🍷🌟👍

  • @eliasmarius
    @eliasmarius Год назад +18

    You already know this is going to be your most watched video ever 🔥 you are killing it as always!

  • @kingjulian1549
    @kingjulian1549 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Konstantin. Regardless of the vintage, it is a great wine. and makes great content.

  • @peterrich6248
    @peterrich6248 Год назад +3

    Thank you, thank you, Konstantin!
    Personally, I love Madera specifically Bual Madeira.
    And it was a joy to watch you open it and savor it.

  • @jennyd255
    @jennyd255 Год назад +8

    Back when I was a small person in the early 1960's we used to visit Madeira where I had distant relatives living. At that time my parents were friendly with the Blandy family who largely controlled the wine making on the island in the 1960's. I seem to recall them having extensive cellars, but sadly at the age of just 8 years old I was still a bit too young to truly appreciate the wines, although my mother did encourage me to try a few sips. From my subsequent experience of Madeira wines (which isn't extensive by any means but I do have a little...) I would guess there is a fair chance that what you have there is the real deal. In any case as it is clearly a very fine drinking experience so I am not convinced that the exact date of production really matters all that much... Superb video.

  • @miguelcarrillo202
    @miguelcarrillo202 Год назад +4

    Thank you Sebastian! You made the great episode

  • @anaenunoteixeira4859
    @anaenunoteixeira4859 11 месяцев назад +2

    Madeira old and Vintage Porto are amazing, for czars and kings, i taste a vintage from the the 70s...i was born in 73 ...is by far the best wine i ever tasted..and we drink at homme barollos bourdeaux navas zapatas from argentina..we know wath is around there...nothing nothing is near this 2 , but you have to put money to get a old madeira or a old vintage porto...but after that petrus and others are for kids...or vinegar

  • @bobmarley2140
    @bobmarley2140 Год назад +5

    From what I found it is harvest 1825 BUT as with other very old madeira wines like you said they do get stored in cask for decades and sometimes even rebottled after the first release so by the condition of the cork I'm willing to bet it was bottled early to mid 20th century, I'm glad you have such generous subscribers it does make for a good show!

  • @baggrabb
    @baggrabb Год назад +8

    This was amazing, and my thanks to Sebastian, too.

  • @randycrist6839
    @randycrist6839 Год назад +3

    Vintage Madeira is one of the great wines of the world. Had a 1940 Justino Bual that was amazing. To drink something from 1825 that is that fresh and interesting must have been a wonderful experience. Thanks so much to you and Sebastian for sharing that experience.

  • @DanielAllenLuka
    @DanielAllenLuka Год назад +2

    I literally had a full on smile while watching this… not sure that has ever happened to me when watching a RUclips video before. Awesome

  • @jamesallison4875
    @jamesallison4875 4 месяца назад

    Don’t know how I missed this earlier. I’m a fan of Madeira occasionally. It brings back memories of a past life I suppose. You and the gentleman who gave these bottles are so generous for sharing the experience. I certainly enjoyed it vicariously!

  • @brettl88
    @brettl88 Год назад +1

    This was awesome! Thanks for sharing!

  • @lindqvistelias
    @lindqvistelias Год назад +4

    Thank you Sebastian and Konstantine for sharing this with us!

  • @erick7862
    @erick7862 Год назад +1

    Brilliant video!!!

  • @noobood
    @noobood Год назад +1

    Love it thanks!!! Learnt a good amount from your video

  • @brianwettlaufer3447
    @brianwettlaufer3447 Год назад

    Constantin your shirt was the perfect color for the backdrop of the initial pour! BRAVO!

  • @kentpiano2600
    @kentpiano2600 Год назад +3

    I think the 18 -- 25 is part of the trade mark along with the shield but clearly a very aged wine, difficult to say whether slightly older or younger than the 1845 you tasted but exciting and something very close -- I could both smell and taste the madeira as you opened the bottle, it carried across the airwaves, a very heady blend of old raisins, treacle toffee, soft honey and walnut oil with a hint of fine roast coffee and elderflowers!

  • @Andrew-Locksley691
    @Andrew-Locksley691 6 дней назад

    Absolutely astonishing!! Thank you for this. It made my day a lot of history in that little bottle ,Cheers!!

  • @Greatblue56
    @Greatblue56 Год назад +1

    Wow this was soooo cool! Really enjoyed this episode!

  • @nioniosnioniou4732
    @nioniosnioniou4732 Год назад +32

    Judging by the bottle, I believe the wine is old but not that old, and the year is a referral not of the vintage but the founding year of the house

    • @danielplainview4778
      @danielplainview4778 Год назад

      I thought the same thing

    • @OGStinkywizzleteats
      @OGStinkywizzleteats Год назад

      ​@@danielplainview4778 I thought you were more of an expert in milkshakes?

    • @holgerheuermann
      @holgerheuermann Год назад +1

      Exactly. The colors of the print look quite fresh, the typography on the label hints more towards the 1970s or so.
      Madeira back then mostly had only the name of the importer or a brand name on it, vintage Madeira with a vintage or bottling year on it was almost unknown in Germany. This very much looks like a bottle sold in a delicatessen store for around 20 DM.

    • @ememe1412
      @ememe1412 Месяц назад

      ​@@holgerheuermannlooking at the label, sorry, it doesn't look like 70s typography. Then again, alcohol bottle label typography tend to be 'slow' to follow general fashion... The label looks well preserved. I suspect that the wine was imported in casks and bottled later. Company foundation yrs are not put as main date on a label.

  • @alberttresslevic914
    @alberttresslevic914 Год назад +6

    Thats pretty cool.
    According to Google Madeira used to be aged in Solera's a long time ago, maybe a younger bottling from a very old Solera? And when I say younger I meanly like "only" 100+ years old!

  • @samsham8218
    @samsham8218 Год назад +1

    WOW!!! That was AWESOME!!
    Slainte.

  • @ericifune5543
    @ericifune5543 Год назад +5

    Madeira is infamous for short corks. Prephylloxera Madeira without a grape variety on the label is most likely Verdelho as it was the most widely planted.

  • @anuraagt
    @anuraagt Год назад +1

    Love it. Two very sweet German gentlemen! Especially the restraint in not finishing the bottle, nicely done.

  • @carldaniel6510
    @carldaniel6510 7 месяцев назад

    I love that you've had several old Madeira wines on this channel! My wife & I were fortunate enough to get a taste of a ~100 year old Terrantez Madeira a couple of years ago and it was heavenly. I'd love to see a 19th century wood aged Port or two. Taylor Scion or similar.

    • @finest_vintage_spirits
      @finest_vintage_spirits 8 дней назад

      I recently tasted a Ferreira Port Vintage 1900 on my channel if you are interested.

  • @romulus_
    @romulus_ Год назад +1

    I'm liking that you're showing more of your sense of humor in the videos.

  • @LEMONADE-5000
    @LEMONADE-5000 Год назад +1

    Hay, You made me a wine guy. Love from Sri Lanka

  • @ThisIsDavesGarage
    @ThisIsDavesGarage Год назад +2

    Incredible. I am not a big wine drinker but this makes me really appreciate the history and I would love to taste this wine.

  • @CMHC
    @CMHC Год назад +2

    absolutely amazing. so cool. favorite series from you

  • @NickDeWachter
    @NickDeWachter Год назад +2

    Sebastian... Our hero of the day 😉 (can't always be Konstantin).

  • @likemeliodas3431
    @likemeliodas3431 Год назад

    wonderful Video - the opportunity must be flabbergasting... looking forward to your next video ^^

  • @comesahorseman
    @comesahorseman Год назад +2

    Fascinating! Many thanks, Sebastian. 👍

  • @GotrafficGr
    @GotrafficGr Год назад +5

    Congratulations!
    Please make a video for greek wines.😊 We have some excellent varieties!

  • @mattraino3274
    @mattraino3274 Год назад +2

    Sebastian was a true gentleman to share this experience!

  • @kellyem33
    @kellyem33 Год назад +1

    Inhad the pleasure of drinking an 1865 Madiera in Boston, which formsome reason was sold by the glass for $12.00. It too was amazing, with exactly the same tasting notes. I think you had the real deal.

  • @WhiskyWhistle
    @WhiskyWhistle Год назад

    Well done! And what great luck to try such bottled history. I dabble in wines to better understand the casks used in whisky production and I found I really enjoy Madeira. Super jelly!!
    Cheers🥃🥃🥃
    Mark

  • @arturoleorigins
    @arturoleorigins Год назад +1

    Just as I saw your last video and said, no way he goes more vintage, this is great stuff👏👏

  • @CrescentRollCarl
    @CrescentRollCarl Год назад +5

    Amazing. I can only hope to taste a bottle like this some day. Hard to say if the date is correct, but I don't know nearly enough to really comment on its authenticity. Looks great either way!

  • @sambowles9746
    @sambowles9746 Год назад +1

    G’day Sebastian… you seem like a top bloke 🙄🙏😉 🤞In seriousness, thanks for making this interesting video possible. Great job as always Konstantin, very interesting and well presented.

  • @williamwoody7607
    @williamwoody7607 7 месяцев назад +1

    Between 30 and 40 years ago we would do private parties where we’d open marvelous 19th c.
    Madeira by the case, and poured it in a room apart from the main party to serve from trays at the end of the meal. By this time many of the guests had enough and so much was left for the staff. It made clean up rather tolerable.The room smelled like Christmas, all spicy maple syrup. The dollar was strong, everything else was weak, and wines were shockingly reasonable.I worked as 2nd sommelier and my boss and I knew this was special and couldn’t last. I don’t like to talk about what we drank because I get the impression sometimes that people don’t even believe me.

  • @INSIGHTSAU
    @INSIGHTSAU Год назад +2

    What a wonderful vicarious experience. Thank you.

  • @michellecbauer
    @michellecbauer Год назад +1

    Wonderful video, Konstantin! Your videos are always a treat and this one was extra special. Thank you (and Sebastian) for sharing this experience!

  • @ecmo11
    @ecmo11 Год назад

    The first 38 seconds are the best intro to a wine video I've ever seen, lol! Awesome.

  • @dianechayer7336
    @dianechayer7336 Год назад

    Thank you both. That was so enjoyable!

  • @d.oliveras8012
    @d.oliveras8012 Год назад

    I’m a not a wine drinker but watching your channel makes feel as I’m a wine drinker

  • @Tetsomina
    @Tetsomina Год назад

    Thank you so much Sebastian!

  • @lordcommandernox9197
    @lordcommandernox9197 Год назад +1

    Everywhere I look, _Portugal_

  • @madhatter6705
    @madhatter6705 Год назад +1

    I'm from Darlington UK, I just want to shout out to the Locomotion number 1 as it was invented here lol

  • @kufena
    @kufena Год назад +3

    Looking in Michael Broadbent’s Vintage Wine, he has tasting notes going back to 1789, and notes for two bottles of 1680 Madeira (not good.). Some of the notes distinguish between the year of the wine, and when it was bottled from the cask, so like others have said, possibly not bottled til 20th Century perhaps? The 1680 note also mentions short corks, which is interesting too.

  • @00carmichael
    @00carmichael Год назад

    Great job, all! Amazing episode!!

  • @ChrisHirner
    @ChrisHirner Год назад

    Im impressed, i would have figured vinegar with a touch of mold. Nice! Wine is kind of magic

  • @alfredorainuzzo555
    @alfredorainuzzo555 Год назад

    Probably one of the most fascinating videos! Thank you Mr. Baum!

  • @RootedHat
    @RootedHat Год назад

    Merci pour cette vidéo super intéressante. J'ai goûté une fois du Madère, celui-ci a dû être bien incroyable! Santé 😊

  • @ResearchForMyself
    @ResearchForMyself Год назад

    Wow, what a priceless experience! Imagine if you pass that bottle to your children and after a few generations its 500 years old!

  • @Diamond_Skies
    @Diamond_Skies Год назад +1

    Sebastian... what a cool guy! I hope he enjoyed it as well.

    • @finest_vintage_spirits
      @finest_vintage_spirits Год назад +2

      Thank you and yes I truly did ! Especially I went home with more than half a bottle 😅🎉

    • @Diamond_Skies
      @Diamond_Skies Год назад +1

      @@finest_vintage_spirits oh wonderful! Living life to the fullest!😃😃💥🎉

  • @stevenholt4936
    @stevenholt4936 Год назад

    What a fantastic video. Kudos, Sebastian.

  • @IceCubeInMyIceTea
    @IceCubeInMyIceTea Год назад

    I've only ever had two sips of wine in my life, but I'm fascinated with this video.

  • @tarawalker7193
    @tarawalker7193 Год назад

    Fantastic share! Cheers to Sebastian!!!

  • @stanleovart
    @stanleovart Год назад +1

    This is really great, I believe it’s really old, but not so old as 1825. I would say beginning of 20th century - as you said - German company’s invoices are from 1914 or smth. Anyway - that is superb! Thank you

    • @finest_vintage_spirits
      @finest_vintage_spirits Год назад +2

      I.B. Hinker's already operated in the 19th century due to many sources. It's possible that the wine was bottled in the 20th century but not very unlikely it was harvested in 1825 and then rested in barrels for a long (very) time before it was bottled.

  • @nathanfife2890
    @nathanfife2890 Год назад +1

    This is insane, that color was wild

  • @kaijunjiang9763
    @kaijunjiang9763 Год назад

    Great episode! It’s not just about wine but human appreciation for each other and history!

  • @ericifune5543
    @ericifune5543 Год назад

    The color and appearance is absolutely correct for really old Madeira.

  • @barryschalkwijk9388
    @barryschalkwijk9388 Год назад +1

    200 year Madeira yes please.

  • @SOSchangedme
    @SOSchangedme Год назад +1

    Cool show!

  • @daneggleton1
    @daneggleton1 Год назад

    Constantine, in Australia we have a producer of fortified wines that only bottles it's best cuvee after 100 years in the barrel. It is Seppeltsfield Para Liqueur, from the Barossa Valley, widely regarded as one of the finest in the world. To see at Madeira of that age isn't a surprise, however to be able to taste it would be amazing.

  • @fuzznakano
    @fuzznakano Год назад

    Thanks Sebastian and K.

  • @mackie_p
    @mackie_p Год назад

    I can't even imagine having a coin from 1825... Great video!

  • @lani6647
    @lani6647 Год назад

    What an absolute champ whoever it is that donated this

  • @eric1richards
    @eric1richards Год назад

    What a treat! Thanks for sharing!

  • @cleigh113
    @cleigh113 Год назад

    lucky you, so interesting and glad it was drinkable. It must have been stored very well for so long.

  • @emilesmits2683
    @emilesmits2683 Год назад +12

    The glass bottle itself is from the 1930s the oldest, it's a modern machine made bottle, regular lip. Probably locally bottled in Germany: most spirits & liqueur producer did in fact brand their corks in the 1930s. This practise stopped in the 1950s for most producers.

  • @FurrariAussies
    @FurrariAussies Год назад

    Wow. Totally legit as far as I can tell. You're the expert, though! I can only dream to try a wine that old.

  • @Birdylockso
    @Birdylockso Год назад

    Appreciate the fact that you found Sabastian and shared your finding with him. But get ready for many more exotic and interesting bottles of wine coming your way, from all corners of the world. We all can't wait as well. 😍

  • @jayceperlmutter4317
    @jayceperlmutter4317 Год назад

    How wonderful! Really fun to watch and enjoy!

  • @drmatthewhorkey
    @drmatthewhorkey Год назад

    Like the intro during the case opening hahah… Did you stick a small Aputure light in there?
    Do you think the wine was recorked at some point?

  • @gallopwave
    @gallopwave Год назад

    When I was in La Sante Prison,
    Bernard Bonnet and I found a bottle of Speyer wine in some catacombs. We enjoyed it but had no idea what it was til years later.