I am not a Christian (although I do admire Catholicism) and have my own spiritual belief. But regardless, I absolutely hate it when religions change their originality, their beliefs and systems for praise, power or popularity. I hate it because religion should be a beacon for its own believers and hold them to a high standard. It should stand between the faith of it's believers and general madness. When a religion fails to do so, it's lost.
@@cnault3244 I would like to know why you want to know that. Is it really for seeking the answer or just finding an excuse to malign something you don't like?
@@cnault3244 Because I do not like to answer people who are not genuinely interested. Not assuming, just stating. I also think people shouldn't think they are always entitled to be answered.
Prince M I dont see any one bringing it up with practising jews either. Or are we not allowed to mention them. What is it with christians and their double standards?
The punishment for adultery is death. Same with two men that engage with one another. But as for two women, then it is the judge that decides their penalty. It is not death. Beating, or prison, or rehab, whatever deters her.
Scott2781 Why exactly are you bringing islam in to this. It's not islam telling you to change your religion. Cant christians defend their religion with out using islam as a scape goat? absolutely pathetic. Also why dont you lot ever mention judaism considering it too forbids homosexuality?.
Because we wont lol. Unfortunately christianity has become a joke because christians have not defended it. I don’t understand why nothing is done and why these people are not refuted. Like christians wake up and take lessons from muslims. So what if the media chats rubbish defend ur faith!
I am never sure why there any debate when the word of God is abundantly clear on marriage it just seems clear that some would rather ignore Gods teachings and follow the worlds teachings ..
@@SemiOmni314 Thanks mate but God so loved the world he gave his only son Jesus as a sacrifice for your sins and mine Get on the Jesus bus bro its the only one going to heaven ..All the others are on roads to nowhere
i think that is the correct decision. If the church doesn't champion the teachings of the bible what does it do. Not a popularity contest is it!. People should interpret the bible however they please and act as they wish, but the church should not be championing anything that it doesn't back up with scripture or religious insight.
The Church of England is part of the World-wide Episcopal Church, and the wishes of the African churches , which are more Conservative than the C of E , will not allow Gay Marriage, have to be taken into account. , Christian and Jewish Marriage is a relationship , ideally for life of one man and one woman , Romans chapter 1 and 2 does not permit same sex marriages. Islam is even more strict on not allowing Gay Marriages or relationships In case people think I am Prejudiced , my husband has a cousin in Americs, who is gay/bisexual. We speak every week on the phone/Facebook . and he visits us regularly. WE love him very much , but we respect each others different view point on Gay Marriage / same sex relationships . When they come from America he , and his partner sleep in different rooms or stay in a hotel I accept the different views on this matter but hostile Gays have got to accept that the traditional Church teaching on this matter is a valid view point . I have got to acceot their point of view BUT they have got to accept my moderate view from a Christian perspective.
@@SSJfraz What previous versions? The King James Bible 1611 was translated from Masoretic Hebrew scripts dating to the 8th century. When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947 they contained all the books of the current Old Testament except for Esther. The scrolls date to 100-300BC. Parts translated are the same as the modern bibles. So the KJB Old Testament is the same as the 8th century AD script and the scriptures of the Dead Sea Scrolls which are pre Christ. As for the New Testament, the gospels are the best preserved ancient documents with 24,000 ancient copies and fragments in 11 languages. The Bible, given that it consists of writings dating from 1500BC to 80AD is remarkably well preserved.
Bible says a man and if he wants, multiple wives as well as concubines. But since no evidence for any god has been shown, there's no reason to take what the Bible says seriously.
The Church of England has only been around since the 16th century. It exists because Henry VIII wanted a church that would grant him a divorce. Not sure how this origin gives this church any standing on the sanctity of marriage.
@@Soarness And the video report is about what the Church of England has said. As for not going against the words of their beliefs, does this mean you would support them if they decided that slavery was OK? The Bible says owning people as your property is OK.
@@cnault3244 and the Church of England believes in a religion and in that religion gay marriage isn’t allowed. Please just use your brain and put 2 and 2 together. And no. In the New Testament slavery isn’t allowed and neither is being gay so maybe read the New Testament?
@@Soarness "And no. In the New Testament slavery isn’t allowed" Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 ) Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 " " and neither is being gay so maybe read the New Testament?" Guess you didn't read the new testament, I just posted passages from the NT that condone slavery. As for your claim that the new testament says being gay isn't allowed, can you post those verses?
I am not religious but I agree with this decision. This bloody country is woke and full of nonsense and we really need to make a stand I many areas. Man and woman getting married should be cherished and is a huge part of male and female life.
@@Random-UK not once in the bible does it disparage homosexuality… I mean to me it’s just a collection of human stories and writing collated into a famous semi fictional book but even those who believe it’s paranormal are imposing their own homophobia onto it, there are plenty of decent Christian’s who are accepting of all people
I agree this country us full of woke idiots does my head in, I'm just glad I'm not in the US. That being said although all that gay stuff really isn't my thing, these guys in the church have been raping and destroying the lives of young boys for years and years wich is the worst crime anyone can commit religious or not. So I really Don't get how two people of the same sex can't marry in a church, just makes no sense to me.. But yea if they don't want to allow it then they shouldn't be forced to, there's other ways of doing it and to be fair if I was gay and my god didn't like me for that reason would I really want to be apart of that faith in the first place lol
@@Keithemery889 not true. Have you ever actually read the Bible? As a Christian, I believe the word of God which is the Bible, and I believe the words of Jesus which are in the Bible. You might care to read it yourself? Maybe start with the gospel of John. It’s always a good place to start. As you read, you will be changed, and you will understand why this is a really important subject to christians. We believe that God created marriage, between one man and one woman. This is his will and his design and there is a purposeful marriage, not only to procreate, but if you want to know any more then you only have to ask or read the Bible. God bless you
I'm a man. I want to be part of a women's club. The club rules state that men aren't allowed. I'm going to protest until they change the club rules. This post has nothing to do with women's clubs.
No he doesn't that's BS that's what people would say in a Catholic Church as someone who has had relationships with men and women although they haven't gone far it's not right
Bible says "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13) Either do what the Bible says to do or admit you are a hypocrite and are just using the Bible as a menu where you choose which commandments to obey and which to ignore.
Well, now we know the devil has got his evil claws into the church of England, and the false teachers are doing their work. Revelations are here. We must remain strong and push back, God does not bless sin. 🙏
Surely the Archbishop should be saying how much damage God has done to the LGBTI+ community. All those nasty things He said in His book, that we no longer believe in. We are so, so so, terribly sorry for all the damage He has done! We are so sorry to be Christ's church and to be committed to such an outmoded, regressive organisation, with it's ridiculous notion that God exists and that He has spoken. Surely the church has been wrong for the last 2000 years (and the Jews wrong for the last 4000 years) and of course all the other branches of the Christian faith, Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant have been wrong too, but we, we glorious liberal Anglicans with our modern understanding of what God was trying to say (but sadly couldn't express) know the truth! So come and join us (and the devil - we are a broad church with a range of beliefs) and you too can join us in apologising for all the harm 'we' have done.
With all due respect to the journalist who did this report, why have you given it such an inflammatory title? The Church of England does not reflect the Church of Jesus Christ in this particular stance. Jesus loved everyone! But he did not condone sin. The church needs to go back to biblical values. I am not against the Church of England, as I was confirmed in the Church of England, I currently listen to sermons from someone who is a vicar in the church of England, and I went to the Church of England a few years ago and was very active in the fresh expressions of the church of England department shall we say. However, the Bible does not condone this or would it agree. Marriage was designed by God to be between one man and one woman only. Therefore it is not right to water down the Bible and change the church to fit in with society and its beliefs. Why should we do that? You can either agree with what the Bible says, or disagree. That’s your choice. Don’t try to change the church and the Bible. End of God bless all who read this whether you agree or not. Much love. 😍
@@cnault3244 LOL I think I already knew that, but I still wanted to ask the question. It seems like sensationalism gets peoples attention. So does that mean the society we live in thrives on sensationalism to keep them going? How shallow. How come you’re here? LOL
@@cnault3244 it’s interesting isn’t it? I don’t know the full details, but I think the church is divided as in the Anglican church. It doesn’t reflect biblical standards
@@nikkiisrael2708 I'm not sure any Christian church reflects biblical standards. According to the Bible, slavery ( not some form of metaphorical slavery, the |Bible defines a slave as property you can beat) is OK. Do any Christians agree with the Bible?
No one should be religious.....but if homophobics want to hate....Go to other religions that accept them…definitely not Christ, jews and Islam might as they like homophobia
@@pastorbri It's not the church that lays the laws down but God. Anyone performing a same-sex marriage should be struck down with them. Like Moses said in Leviticus 20:13 “’If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a Church allows same-sex marriage you are in a house of Satan, not that of God.
That’s not love, but lust. Sin is Sin. LGBT+ = LUST, human sinful nature, desire of wickedness and sin against God’s will. The punishment is hell, if they don’t repent. We as God’s people should protest hugely against these evil decisions by these evil bishops or whoever they are. We should tell the truth according to the Bible. What I see in many churches in here (UK) is quite shocking to me. Cowardliness 🤦🏻♂️ Those people who are in those high positions in power nowadays should be kicked out of their positions. We should stop being coward. Holy Bible: romans chapter 1:24-32, first Corinthians chapter 6:9-10, Judah chapter 1:7 and so on and so forth. Homosexuality is condemned by God. BUT these people are talking about blessing those evil things that God already condemned them. I am very angry.😡
They say if you don't follow the rules then choose another religion. It's between you and God. And you will be punished. But you should keep your sexual habits private. Not be proud in the streets
@@gordianknot6867 16And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.17In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him.18There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4 verse 16-18
@@Freedom-hv3vm thats a funny kind of love, that relies on the condition that you’re a good christian/believer proving my point. God has his conditions.
@@gordianknot6867 and like a good God He doesn't change. He loves us so much He doesn't want to keep us in our sins. He had His law that has to be followed, He won't charge for society or culture. He is the God God
@@Freedom-hv3vm I’m not saying god isn’t good however he plays his games and we play ours. I love god but I cannot understand his ways. I have my theories but thats all they are. I see myself similar to Abraham, searching.
There's nothing to discuss. It's all been revealed in Scripture and Tradition. Either believe in Christ and repent, or follow your own will - if you think it is of any value.
@@pastorbri So that's why God sent a rain of fire to Sodom and Gomorrah. "Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (malakoi), nor abusers of themselves with mankind (arsenokoitai), nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV) Abandon false teachings that are inspired by the devil. Join the authentic Church of the Apostles, i.e. the Eastern Orthodox Church.
Ewan Jones Care to explain why christians never mention the jews and judaism? Because homosexuality is forbidden in judaism too. Why is it that you all have an issue with people staying silent against islam but not judaism? I dont see any one telling practising jews to accept homosexuality. But youre all fine with that. Wont even mention that but always got to bring up islam in order to use it as a scape goat to defend your religion. Absolute cowardice. How about you grow a pair and defend your own religion with out trying to throw muslims under the bus.
The reason for marriage, is to allow people who believe in the Day of Judgement to have lawful intercourse. Otherwise there wouldn't have been any reason for fornication being a sin. So why would a people that do not believe in God, nor in His Commands on what's lawful and not lawful, but do fornicate and engage with the same gender whenever they want to, why do they want to get married if no other reason than to corrupt the institution of marriage? They have to be asked if marriage is a religious thing or if there's no need for it to begin with? A) If there is no need for it, then why do they want to get married and not continue fornicating as they used to? B) But if there is a need for it, then is that need: marriage in order to prevent fornication? So what is marriage for according to you? Is it just a piece of paper that doesn't care about lawful and unlawful intercourse? If marruage doesn't differentiate between itself and fornication, then why deny marriage for the youth but not fornication? Refuting the disbelievers of the west is not hard. Because all of their decisions and intentions are driven by lusts and addictions and not comprehension and truth.
@@Random-UK marriage has existed for far longer than your god…. Humans have been getting married in many different forms for thousands and thousands of years
Well this is interesting. I am entirely in favour of gay marriage. However, whether that should be a church marriage is debatable because in the Catholic church and the CoE, and in scripture, marriage is a special sacrament between a man and a woman for life. As a divorced person, I can't be married in church, and I am fine with that and don't regard myself as a 2nd class citizen. I was very happy that my 2nd marriage could be blessed in church.
As a gay man I will always be confused why others keep seeking approval & validation from religion, which is (aside from mind-control), inherently opposed to us. God can be found anywhere, we don't need them to have a relationship with the divine.
Funny that you call religion mind control, while the lgbt movement charges through society demanding we do your will for fear of cancellation, and push your propaganda in schools on children. Let he who is without sin.
@@roninhood1027 Both are human frameworks of thought and are blatantly flawed because of it. They know not what they have done. As a gay man I can say the LGBTQI omercon persi 8 "movement" is a dangerous parody of itself. As someone who has read the King James Bible I can tell you there are so many plot holes, it's unbelievable. Take the story of Job. If a grandfather asks their son to kill it's grandson to prove their love, only at that last moment to say "Nah, just kidding. Nice to know you love me though". I wouldn't think that was a very loving grandad, in fact quite abusive. If god is there, god is not good.
These are people who don't go to church, couldn't find the Gospels if you told them where to look, being more interested in power over something that they don't like, than it's ever been about marriage.
There's a good business opportunity here, someone should build a church looking building so gay people can have a "church" wedding........can not understand what compels people to want to force themselves into a religion that clearly doesn't truly accept their sexual orientation, create your own god and religious text just like how all other religions were created, make up whatever you like, instead of Sunday being the day of rest make it the day of rimming, have leather chapless trousers and skirts as your religions clothing, but in all seriousness why can't people just live and accept that you will not be liked by everyone on this planet, be it for your sexuality, personality, skin colour, nationality ect and that if there is a god no one knows what god thinks or if god has "rules" for life, just get on with living life and when you die make your apologies or be proud you made no mistakes and accept whatever may be, the biggest problem today is no one is happy until they force everyone to be happy for them.
A lot of gays grew up in the Church and have felt love and acceptance from God as they are, despite the views from the Church. These people still consider themselves Christians and would rather stay in the Church. It's not that complicated.
@@RandomBloke007 God does not want people to practice homosexuality. If you are not engaging in anal and oral sex with people of the same gender then that's fine. You have a divine nature - cultivate it.
@@chris6559 in this case, one that doesn't hysterically wave a rainbow flag in such a fashionable manner.... At least SOME people have standards and well done.
The god of this world is Satan. God the creator of mankind says: Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Ask the Muslims community too ? What about Jewish community also ? 🙄. It’s so frustrating the constant disregard for Christian norms and values. Should I come into your house and start moving everything around because I don’t feel acquainted…
The constant failure to stand up for your religion has led to this. And you so is why we get offended if you burn and mock our sacred scriptures. It so sad to see this I’m honestly not even Christian and I don’t think this is right. We still respect the bible a great deal.
Thank god respect peoples life choices but we should not have our faith and believes being changed just to please a certain group, if you respect the bible you shouldn’t force your desires and wishes just to make yourselves happy
@@Keithemery889 now religion is a choice so if you don’t respect and like the faith’s view you don’t need to follow it find something else to believe in, considering people are non believers not sure why they want to force a religion in which they don’t believe in to change for them just so they can have everything their way
@@Keithemery889 guess you don’t care to study other religions in the same context all religions are not perfect therefore you are not required to follow and if you say murder homosexuals then why on earth would they wish to get married under that religion also if you look back in history people were not perfect, public hanging and executions etc but we don’t do that in modern society as we have evolved. Consenting adults can live however they wish to live their lives, I just don’t find it right that we Christian’s should change our views to please
Mind Begs the Question: If Christian Scripture prohibits homosexuality If a Chruch/Priest approve homosexuality Must be regarded as Church/Christian Must not be regarded as Church/Christian?
The Bible condones owning other people as your property ( slavery). That alone is enough of a reason to discard the Bible as a source for moral guidance
What the world needs is a university that educates women on how to be pious, knowledgeable, loving, kind, chaste and beautiful wives. The graduates from this prestigious university would've gotten so many marriage requests. No need for you to be licentious and attract semi possessed men at the bars in order to find love. Rather the best men would line up to get your hand after graduation, and you'd feel like a princess. Your dowry would increase. You'll have classes on Fiqh (Jurisprudence), classes on physical training so that you're fit physically. Classes on being a chef, and you'll master all the Halal dishes. On fashion and beautification for the bedroom and not in public. On kindness and raising kids etc. That's one of the ideas I have in store for you.
@@jagaloon216 Your society is grooming girls to become pornographers until victims like you who couldn't find a wife become addicted to it, and then you rage against the world with hearts filled with pain and diseases until you have weird profile pictures like that. You are not well, you need to be detoxed from the corruption of western values. Do not grieve, there are good people left. We will rectify this world from the polytheists and disbelievers. Men will not end up like you if I can see to it.
@@jagaloon216 The time for Islam to be universally accepted is coming thanks to the immoral extremism of the west that is showing everyone that your way of life failed you. When we get authority, and we will, then swiftly and quickly you'll be detoxed, rectified and purified. You won't see tattooed people roaming about, or paganism being allowed, or people doubting what genders they belong to. But rather being seen doing a sin in public lest your testimony is denied, will become your concern. And you won't afford having a weird profile picture that could ruin your reputation and status. You we call yourself Ibn (son of) McDougall. You've lost all dignity and honour, and we will help you restore it. Christianity failed you, but we wont.
Are they against pedophilia finally as well? Peter Ball died, but all of his and the other men’s victims still have to live with the affects of their depravity that the “ church” covered up.
Bible says "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13) Either do what the Bible says to do or admit you are a hypocrite and are just using the Bible as a menu where you choose which commandments to obey and which to ignore.
The Church of England exists because Henry VIII wanted a church that would grant him a divorce. Not sure how this origin gives this church any standing on the sanctity of marriage.
For someone who is struggling with homosexuality and looks to their faith to alleviate the anguish only for the church to capitulate to the LGBT community would do a disservice to that person. The LGBT demands respect for their lifestyle and choices but cannot give it to other people. They're also vicious towards those who don't want to be gay by saying that person hates themselves for being gay. It's the complete opposite, it's because they love themselves they are wanting to escape from the venomous lifestyle. I know because I have lived through it.
The bible is very clear, homosexuals are welcome, but you must not practice homosexuality. So, how can God possibly bless such a thing. It's like choosing only to follow bits of the bible, which is not the word of Yashua. It's that simple. I'm sorry.
its homophobics who need to struggle with their sin, as the homophobics demand respect for their demonic wicked lifestyle and choices but cannot give it to other people. They're also vicious towards those who don't want to be uneducated or homophobic by saying that person hates themselves for being a bigot. It's the complete opposite, it's because they love themselves they are wanting to escape from the venomous homophobic lifestyle. I know because I have lived through it more so.
@@bullypete22 no the bible is very clear, homophobics are welcome, but you must not practice homophobia to make satan pleased. So, how can God possibly bless such a thing. It's like choosing only to follow bits of the bible, which is not the word of Yashua. It's that simple. I'm sorry.
Bible says "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13) Either do what the Bible says to do or admit you are a hypocrite and are just using the Bible as a menu where you choose which commandments to obey and which to ignore.
@@Chris1553 So you say that there is nothing wrong with slavery but that you wouldn't accept being a slave. What a hypocrite you are. Btw Britains were able to own slaves until the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833.
The middle path is to also end celibacy, ban fornication, allow polygamy and not allow women marrying off themselves without a guardian (like her father). And making sure her consent for marriage is there, that she is not married off to anyone she doesn't want to marry. And lowering the age of marriage in order to protect the chastity of the new generations that are coming up. Because why allow young boys and girls to have boyfriends and girlfriends and fornicate, but if they wanted to get married, then the laws of shaytan (western man made laws) forbid the path to purity for them? Similar to how shaytan forbade eating cattle for the pagans. If your kids are at the age of seeking the opposite gender, then tell them that if you want to taste the opposite gender, then you can marry, if not, then wait. That's how you protect them from Zina.
A blessing void of a full sacramental embrace is a stifled blessing. Can we truly declare this Godly? No, the answer is simply NO. God’s love is wholeheartedly unconditional and the grace imparted through the sacrament of marriage is unconditional, a gift to all members of the baptized Body of Christ regardless of sexual orientation. Why does the Church of England impose boundaries on God’s love???
My argument is that the youth that are allowed to fornicate, should demand that they are allowed to get married. If the lgbt people say: _"Marriage is just a piece of paper."_ Then the youth should argue by saying: _"If you are teaching us how to use contraceptions, and how to have boyfriends and girlfriends on the movies, and how to fornicate is equal with love etc, then why are we not allowed to get married while the lgbt are?"_ If they say: _"You are too young."_ Then say: _"Too young for what?"_ You see how the polytheists and criminal disbelievers of the west allow the path to the Fire for you, but deny the path of purity and Paradise for you? Growing up as a youth in the west, is more riskier for a person to be among the inhabitants of the Fire after this life, because you are being taught the sins that leads to it as your way of life. So how come you are always demonstrating for causes that are sinful but not for preserving your chastity? There's no one left protecting righteousness among you anymore.
The Word of God is evident in its view of homosexuality. The most commonly quoted Bible verses are Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, which state that it is an abomination for a man to lie with another man as he would with a woman. In Romans 1:26-27, Apostle Paul says that homosexuality is contrary to God's natural order and results from rejecting God.
As a Muslim I am happy to hear that. I don't understand why gay person wants to be priest or marry in church if they don't accept the same religion commandment about them. I am not against their choices but why stick it in our(Muslim, Jews, Christian) face. Make your own religion and if it has good perks I may join you. 😅😅
@Follow the howl 😂 Leviticus 18:22 ESV You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. Leviticus 20:13 ESV If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
@Follow the howl hhmm. You win, sodomizing is ok with you so be it but don't step on the religious scripture to justify your choices. Jesus died for your sins so why bother about right or wrong 🤣🤣🤣
Homosexuals and Lesbians do not follow the teachings of the Bible , so why on earth would they expect to be blessed within the house of God ?? Just seems a really odd request. The Church should NOT be forced to go against the Bible, that's totally wrong.
Homophobics with pride do not follow the teachings of the Bible , so why on earth would they expect to be blessed within the house of God ?? Just seems a really odd request. The Church should NOT be forced to go against the Bible, that's totally wrong.
1st Corinthians 6:9 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
why can't u in the satanic alphabet community make ur own church (RSHT-PLUS......Racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic plus) & STOP imposing their believes on other BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCHES!!!!!!
@@K.R.O1875 The amount of twisting of the same boring old bible verses are fascinating on this thread. 😂 The best way to control a person is to indoctrinate them into religion.
Hi K. Actually, yes it does. And not only does it say it once, it says it several times. First, God gave the model for marriage - one man, one woman. Then, just for clarity, He condemned single sex union to be immoral, punishable by death. He then reiterated this point several times throughout His manifesto, which we Christians call the Bible. To be sure that there was no confusion about the matter when He sent His Son to act as our Messiah, the point was restated again, numerous times throughout the Greek Scriptures, which some refer to as the New Testament. This avoided the problem of allowing some to differentiate between the Hebrew Scriptures and the Greek Scriptures (or Old and New Testaments). Finally, He included the most important statement of all, just to provide the cherry on top of the cake. "I AM Jehovah, I have not changed". Hope this helps. If you are in ANY doubt, or require further clarification please feel free to refer to your Bible.
People are always loud .until there faced with the truth .god destroyed sodom and gomorrah for this reason i dont think it will be long till judgement comes we need to repent god loves you all but he doesnt love your sin .wake up before its to late im saying this with genuine care
Bible says "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13) Either do what the Bible says to do or admit you are a hypocrite and are just using the Bible as a menu where you choose which commandments to obey and which to ignore.
It's a step forward and progress but as they said it isn't equality. Hopefully as we learn to understand one another we can overcome such hurdles like this and make our society a happier better place, without hate and negativity. We don't have to agree with one another but we should respect each other and treat one another with dignity and respect we would want to be shown ourselves.
@@GloryToYAH4Ever it also says to be kind, charitable and love one another. Calling someone an abomination is the very opposite.... that one is even in the 10 commandments isn't it?
@@KrisRoberts114 yeah well they bible was written 130 years after Christ died... by a committee of men..in a different country try..... who used aural stories to create the bible..... so you have a verbal story headed down through a few generations..... at a time when they still believed slavery was fine and that feeding lions live human prisoners was entertaining..... since then it has been translated through god only knows how many languages so you can add in Chinese whispers effect to that..... you know the key phrase .... LOST IN TRANSLATION. Well there is a reason for that. Oh yeah and as far as I can tell only the 10 commandments ts were written by God himself..... and is the sole connecting evidence between christianity, Judaism and Islam. Everything else was written by man..... man is not perfect, man makes mistakes therefor his stories and writings are imperfect as such the bible is not a perfect representation and should be used as a guide but not law.... and I view that to be the same for EVERY religious book not just the bible. If we all stuck to the basic 10 comment ent principles the world would be a far better place.i think God has got other thi gs to worry about than if 2 people want to dedicate their lives to the betterment of another, to support them through hardships and joy. To make such a promise should not be taken lightly and every time a couple choose to dedicate themselves to one another forsaking all others it should be celebrated for the monumentous vow that is. Divorce is considered a sin but half the world have gotten a divorce.... or how about the wearing of synthetic threads..... sounds like someone is on a power trip and wanted to assert dominance over trade at the time so imposed the rule to make money.... oh yeah isnt that a sin.... greed and hate?
@@601salsa who told you it was verbal have you never heard of the Dead Sea scrolls and the greek septuagint also do you think the Roman's who were notorious for documenting everything would mistake the fact jesus was crucified, the fact the new testament was completed a century after means nothing, do we know history from a century ago.. yes hitler and the world wars likely never happened I mean who can be sure it was roughly a century ago now soooooo!!🤦♂️
You can stick your blessings thank you. How dare you treat same sex couples as 2nd class citizens. Your apology does not excuse or diminish your sacrilegious prejudice. Is it any wonder Christianity and church numbers are in such sharp decline in the Western world! So be it. Jesus is never more beautiful than when left untouched by the Church.
Read the bible God does not agree with same sex marriage its a sin an abomination. Marriage is a religious union the church is not a stage to make you self feel good??
@@suchisthismystery2814 Church numbers are In steep decline because of nonsense like this creeping in constantly, you either abide by scripture or you dont, trying to alter it to your whim is a huge sin
@@KrisRoberts114 You can tell yourself that if you want! Telling yourself such falsehoods might make you feel.better but it won't change the fact of the matter. As for "abiding by scripture", as interpreted by who exactly? You? 😂
I am not a Christian (although I do admire Catholicism) and have my own spiritual belief. But regardless, I absolutely hate it when religions change their originality, their beliefs and systems for praise, power or popularity. I hate it because religion should be a beacon for its own believers and hold them to a high standard. It should stand between the faith of it's believers and general madness. When a religion fails to do so, it's lost.
"I do admire Catholicism"
Why?
Do you admire paedophile priests and the Magdeline Laundries? Or are you cherry picking?
@@cnault3244 I would like to know why you want to know that. Is it really for seeking the answer or just finding an excuse to malign something you don't like?
@@anuranbhattacharya9938 I would like to know why, instead of answering my question, you felt it necessary to reply with a question.
@@cnault3244 Because I do not like to answer people who are not genuinely interested. Not assuming, just stating. I also think people shouldn't think they are always entitled to be answered.
Why this issue was not brought up with Islamic leader in UK?
Prince M
I dont see any one bringing it up with practising jews either. Or are we not allowed to mention them. What is it with christians and their double standards?
Cos they would have said piss off
Amen
@mohammedkhan2020 true including Jews. I agree they should ask every other religion. But my question not against Muslims here.
Because Islam is a disgusting culture that should be extinct.
Why try to bend their religion to your will ? Why don't we ask Islam to accept them too ?
The punishment for adultery is death. Same with two men that engage with one another. But as for two women, then it is the judge that decides their penalty. It is not death. Beating, or prison, or rehab, whatever deters her.
Scott2781
Why exactly are you bringing islam in to this. It's not islam telling you to change your religion. Cant christians defend their religion with out using islam as a scape goat? absolutely pathetic. Also why dont you lot ever mention judaism considering it too forbids homosexuality?.
Religion is God's word.
You can't change the Bibles words, you only hide them
Shhh, they don't like common sense round these ere parts.
Because we wont lol. Unfortunately christianity has become a joke because christians have not defended it. I don’t understand why nothing is done and why these people are not refuted. Like christians wake up and take lessons from muslims. So what if the media chats rubbish defend ur faith!
GOOD reject every single attempt. It's a right of choice. Nobody HAS to give into it anywhere.
yes we must reject satans homophobic lifestyle
I am never sure why there any debate when the word of God is abundantly clear on marriage it just seems clear that some would rather ignore Gods teachings and follow the worlds teachings ..
Simple: God is against the World, and because of this, the World wants to bastardize the word of God so that they don't feel bad about sinning.
@@SemiOmni314 Thanks mate but God so loved the world he gave his only son Jesus as a sacrifice for your sins and mine Get on the Jesus bus bro its the only one going to heaven ..All the others are on roads to nowhere
@@jallancam5503the other bus is not going nowhere, it is going to hell & the path is very very wide
and yet its not clear on marriage
@@SemiOmni314 God hates homophobia
When humans become insane but think that they’re wiser instead 😢
homophobics were never wise
i think that is the correct decision. If the church doesn't champion the teachings of the bible what does it do. Not a popularity contest is it!. People should interpret the bible however they please and act as they wish, but the church should not be championing anything that it doesn't back up with scripture or religious insight.
The Church of England is part of the World-wide Episcopal Church, and the wishes of the African churches , which are more Conservative than the C of E , will not allow Gay Marriage, have to be taken into account. , Christian and Jewish Marriage is a relationship , ideally for life of one man and one woman , Romans chapter 1 and 2 does not permit same sex marriages. Islam is even more strict on not allowing Gay Marriages or relationships
In case people think I am Prejudiced , my husband has a cousin in Americs, who is gay/bisexual. We speak every week on the phone/Facebook . and he visits us regularly. WE love him very much , but we respect each others different view point on Gay Marriage / same sex relationships . When they come from America he , and his partner sleep in different rooms or stay in a hotel I accept the different views on this matter but hostile Gays have got to accept that the traditional Church teaching on this matter is a valid view point . I have got to acceot their point of view BUT they have got to accept my moderate view from a Christian perspective.
What version of the bible should they be championing? The current version, or one of the many previous versions?
@@SSJfraz What previous versions? The King James Bible 1611 was translated from Masoretic Hebrew scripts dating to the 8th century. When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947 they contained all the books of the current Old Testament except for Esther. The scrolls date to 100-300BC. Parts translated are the same as the modern bibles. So the KJB Old Testament is the same as the 8th century AD script and the scriptures of the Dead Sea Scrolls which are pre Christ. As for the New Testament, the gospels are the best preserved ancient documents with 24,000 ancient copies and fragments in 11 languages. The Bible, given that it consists of writings dating from 1500BC to 80AD is remarkably well preserved.
@@SSJfraz they are the same
@@sheilanixon913 it's not actually Henry the VIII created they make the wrong decisions just because someone's gay doesn't mean there a threat.
God is never in a hurry nor late. One day we'll all face God in judgement. I'd rather comply with His rules now
Which god?
"One day we'll all face God in judgement. I'd rather comply with His rules now."
Which god?
The only One
@@fragrancedeparadiso443 Be more specific. Which only god are you talking about?
@@cnault3244 there's only one
He calls himself a priest but hasn't even read the Bible? Marriage is ordained by God for men and women and he blesses it with children.
Bible says a man and if he wants, multiple wives as well as concubines.
But since no evidence for any god has been shown, there's no reason to take what the Bible says seriously.
You really said the truth,thank you so much for letting the truth
Most homophobics have never read a bible.. and not all heterosexuals have kids or want kids or can have kids, can we condemn them too then?
but he lied@@oghenemudiaoghenerumugba416
It’s their religion, it’s been around for thousands of years and they shouldn’t go against the word of their beliefs.
The Church of England has only been around since the 16th century. It exists because Henry VIII wanted a church that would grant him a divorce. Not sure how this origin gives this church any standing on the sanctity of marriage.
@@cnault3244 I said the religion has been around for thousands of years not the church….
@@Soarness And the video report is about what the Church of England has said.
As for not going against the words of their beliefs, does this mean you would support them if they decided that slavery was OK? The Bible says owning people as your property is OK.
@@cnault3244 and the Church of England believes in a religion and in that religion gay marriage isn’t allowed. Please just use your brain and put 2 and 2 together.
And no. In the New Testament slavery isn’t allowed and neither is being gay so maybe read the New Testament?
@@Soarness "And no. In the New Testament slavery isn’t allowed"
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 )
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 "
" and neither is being gay so maybe read the New Testament?"
Guess you didn't read the new testament, I just posted passages from the NT that condone slavery.
As for your claim that the new testament says being gay isn't allowed, can you post those verses?
I am not religious but I agree with this decision. This bloody country is woke and full of nonsense and we really need to make a stand I many areas.
Man and woman getting married should be cherished and is a huge part of male and female life.
What’s the difference between a man and a woman getting married and a man and a man getting married? How does this effect your life?
@@Random-UK not once in the bible does it disparage homosexuality… I mean to me it’s just a collection of human stories and writing collated into a famous semi fictional book but even those who believe it’s paranormal are imposing their own homophobia onto it, there are plenty of decent Christian’s who are accepting of all people
I agree this country us full of woke idiots does my head in, I'm just glad I'm not in the US. That being said although all that gay stuff really isn't my thing, these guys in the church have been raping and destroying the lives of young boys for years and years wich is the worst crime anyone can commit religious or not. So I really Don't get how two people of the same sex can't marry in a church, just makes no sense to me..
But yea if they don't want to allow it then they shouldn't be forced to, there's other ways of doing it and to be fair if I was gay and my god didn't like me for that reason would I really want to be apart of that faith in the first place lol
@@heathen-greaser weirdly reasonable
@@Keithemery889 not true.
Have you ever actually read the Bible? As a Christian, I believe the word of God which is the Bible, and I believe the words of Jesus which are in the Bible. You might care to read it yourself?
Maybe start with the gospel of John. It’s always a good place to start.
As you read, you will be changed, and you will understand why this is a really important subject to christians.
We believe that God created marriage, between one man and one woman.
This is his will and his design and there is a purposeful marriage, not only to procreate, but if you want to know any more then you only have to ask or read the Bible.
God bless you
I'm a man. I want to be part of a women's club. The club rules state that men aren't allowed. I'm going to protest until they change the club rules.
This post has nothing to do with women's clubs.
or join a mans group
God forbids it, so how can you seek His blessing? It’s ridiculous.
Your bible might forbid it. Who said that’s the real god ?
@@John76125 The people who believe it clearly
No he doesn't that's BS that's what people would say in a Catholic Church as someone who has had relationships with men and women although they haven't gone far it's not right
If god forbids it why doesn't he tell us himself?
Bible says "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13)
Either do what the Bible says to do or admit you are a hypocrite and are just using the Bible as a menu where you choose which commandments to obey and which to ignore.
1:35 And... they're still not happy. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.
yes homophobics have always been that way
NO...... GODS WORD NEVER CHANGES......
Well, now we know the devil has got his evil claws into the church of England, and the false teachers are doing their work.
Revelations are here. We must remain strong and push back, God does not bless sin. 🙏
It's scary how blind the world is .maybe they should ask the lord what he wants its his church.but I think your spot on stay strong
Surely the Archbishop should be saying how much damage God has done to the LGBTI+ community. All those nasty things He said in His book, that we no longer believe in. We are so, so so, terribly sorry for all the damage He has done! We are so sorry to be Christ's church and to be committed to such an outmoded, regressive organisation, with it's ridiculous notion that God exists and that He has spoken. Surely the church has been wrong for the last 2000 years (and the Jews wrong for the last 4000 years) and of course all the other branches of the Christian faith, Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant have been wrong too, but we, we glorious liberal Anglicans with our modern understanding of what God was trying to say (but sadly couldn't express) know the truth! So come and join us (and the devil - we are a broad church with a range of beliefs) and you too can join us in apologising for all the harm 'we' have done.
why shouldnt they refuse? why are people thinking they should?
With all due respect to the journalist who did this report, why have you given it such an inflammatory title?
The Church of England does not reflect the Church of Jesus Christ in this particular stance.
Jesus loved everyone! But he did not condone sin.
The church needs to go back to biblical values.
I am not against the Church of England, as I was confirmed in the Church of England, I currently listen to sermons from someone who is a vicar in the church of England, and I went to the Church of England a few years ago and was very active in the fresh expressions of the church of England department shall we say.
However, the Bible does not condone this or would it agree.
Marriage was designed by God to be between one man and one woman only.
Therefore it is not right to water down the Bible and change the church to fit in with society and its beliefs.
Why should we do that?
You can either agree with what the Bible says, or disagree.
That’s your choice.
Don’t try to change the church and the Bible.
End of
God bless all who read this whether you agree or not.
Much love. 😍
To get people to read the article or watch the video. If the headline was "today's news release from the C of E" it wouldn't get as much interest.
@@cnault3244 LOL I think I already knew that, but I still wanted to ask the question.
It seems like sensationalism gets peoples attention.
So does that mean the society we live in thrives on sensationalism to keep them going? How shallow.
How come you’re here? LOL
@@nikkiisrael2708 I'm here to mock the church of England's position on gay marriage.
@@cnault3244 it’s interesting isn’t it? I don’t know the full details, but I think the church is divided as in the Anglican church.
It doesn’t reflect biblical standards
@@nikkiisrael2708 I'm not sure any Christian church reflects biblical standards.
According to the Bible, slavery ( not some form of metaphorical slavery, the |Bible defines a slave as property you can beat) is OK. Do any Christians agree with the Bible?
If gay people want to be religious…. Go to other religions that accept them…definitely not Christ, jews and Islam.
Exactly
They want the world to bend like them
No one should be religious.....but if homophobics want to hate....Go to other religions that accept them…definitely not Christ, jews and Islam might as they like homophobia
100 wrong@@itshim917
no homophobics do@@lastcosmic
Christ does accept gay people but not the act they commit
Homosexuality is a sin.
No, homophobia is
@@pastorbri It's not the church that lays the laws down but God.
Anyone performing a same-sex marriage should be struck down with them.
Like Moses said in Leviticus 20:13 “’If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
If a Church allows same-sex marriage you are in a house of Satan, not that of God.
That’s not love, but lust.
Sin is Sin.
LGBT+ = LUST, human sinful nature, desire of wickedness and sin against God’s will.
The punishment is hell, if they don’t repent. We as God’s people should protest hugely against these evil decisions by these evil bishops or whoever they are. We should tell the truth according to the Bible.
What I see in many churches in here (UK) is quite shocking to me. Cowardliness 🤦🏻♂️
Those people who are in those high positions in power nowadays should be kicked out of their positions.
We should stop being coward.
Holy Bible: romans chapter 1:24-32, first Corinthians chapter 6:9-10, Judah chapter 1:7 and so on and so forth.
Homosexuality is condemned by God. BUT these people are talking about blessing those evil things that God already condemned them.
I am very angry.😡
YES INDEED, VERY VERY FURIOUS TO HEAR THAT THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE HOLY MIGHTY GOD'S LAW IN MARRIAGE 👩❤️👨
Homophobia, thats not love just hate. Hate is sin and sin is sin.....
homophobics do this all the time though@@CHRISTmyLordFOREVER
WELL IT’S TRUE I MEAN THE BIBLE SAYS SODAM AND GAMORA WERE KILLED GODS WAY.
@Follow the howl yes you fucking boyfriend
for not helping the poor n needy (ezek 16;49)
How does the Jewish, Islamic or Hindi authorities treat same-sex marriage? I am genuinely intrigued.
They say if you don't follow the rules then choose another religion.
It's between you and God.
And you will be punished.
But you should keep your sexual habits private. Not be proud in the streets
This is weird, I too thought this very same question today while listening to the BBC News.....
@@lastcosmic I will be proud in the streets and there's nothing you can do about it 💀👍
@@boyeighteen9048 So, you won't be looking at getting married in one of these religious institutions, then?
@@lastcosmic Thank you for the information .
God is Love but He is Lawful
God is not love. God’s love is conditional just like humans is.
Be humble before god, fear him and above all beg for forgiveness.
@@gordianknot6867 16And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.17In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him.18There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
1 John 4 verse 16-18
@@Freedom-hv3vm thats a funny kind of love, that relies on the condition that you’re a good christian/believer proving my point. God has his conditions.
@@gordianknot6867 and like a good God He doesn't change. He loves us so much He doesn't want to keep us in our sins. He had His law that has to be followed, He won't charge for society or culture. He is the God God
@@Freedom-hv3vm I’m not saying god isn’t good however he plays his games and we play ours. I love god but I cannot understand his ways. I have my theories but thats all they are. I see myself similar to Abraham, searching.
Christianity is finished. If you tolerate everything, you stand for nothing - Top G
yes never tolerate homophobia
Oh its not finished
There's nothing to discuss. It's all been revealed in Scripture and Tradition. Either believe in Christ and repent, or follow your own will - if you think it is of any value.
yes so homophobia is a sin
@@pastorbri So that's why God sent a rain of fire to Sodom and Gomorrah.
"Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (malakoi), nor abusers of themselves with mankind (arsenokoitai), nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)
Abandon false teachings that are inspired by the devil. Join the authentic Church of the Apostles, i.e. the Eastern Orthodox Church.
God does not want people to practice homosexuality.
At last a Christian in the Church of England.
but u can not be christian and homophobic
Don't see u people pressing Christians why don't ye press the Muslims on this
Ewan Jones
Care to explain why christians never mention the jews and judaism? Because homosexuality is forbidden in judaism too. Why is it that you all have an issue with people staying silent against islam but not judaism? I dont see any one telling practising jews to accept homosexuality. But youre all fine with that. Wont even mention that but always got to bring up islam in order to use it as a scape goat to defend your religion. Absolute cowardice. How about you grow a pair and defend your own religion with out trying to throw muslims under the bus.
because Gods word is truth
The reason for marriage, is to allow people who believe in the Day of Judgement to have lawful intercourse. Otherwise there wouldn't have been any reason for fornication being a sin.
So why would a people that do not believe in God, nor in His Commands on what's lawful and not lawful, but do fornicate and engage with the same gender whenever they want to, why do they want to get married if no other reason than to corrupt the institution of marriage?
They have to be asked if marriage is a religious thing or if there's no need for it to begin with?
A) If there is no need for it, then why do they want to get married and not continue fornicating as they used to?
B) But if there is a need for it, then is that need: marriage in order to prevent fornication?
So what is marriage for according to you? Is it just a piece of paper that doesn't care about lawful and unlawful intercourse? If marruage doesn't differentiate between itself and fornication, then why deny marriage for the youth but not fornication?
Refuting the disbelievers of the west is not hard. Because all of their decisions and intentions are driven by lusts and addictions and not comprehension and truth.
so let LGBT marry
Let’s remember the definition of marriage: one man and one woman.
Who’s definition?
@@Random-UK marriage has existed for far longer than your god…. Humans have been getting married in many different forms for thousands and thousands of years
@@Keithemery889 Citation needed
@@Keithemery889
True. So why would this be an issue ?
@@Keithemery889 Gods.
Well this is interesting. I am entirely in favour of gay marriage. However, whether that should be a church marriage is debatable because in the Catholic church and the CoE, and in scripture, marriage is a special sacrament between a man and a woman for life. As a divorced person, I can't be married in church, and I am fine with that and don't regard myself as a 2nd class citizen. I was very happy that my 2nd marriage could be blessed in church.
no it needs to be in church
Enemies from within
called homophobics
As a gay man I will always be confused why others keep seeking approval & validation from religion, which is (aside from mind-control), inherently opposed to us. God can be found anywhere, we don't need them to have a relationship with the divine.
Wisely said
👌
You can’t have relationship with the divine you can with the devil which you chose to do
Funny that you call religion mind control, while the lgbt movement charges through society demanding we do your will for fear of cancellation, and push your propaganda in schools on children. Let he who is without sin.
@@roninhood1027 Both are human frameworks of thought and are blatantly flawed because of it. They know not what they have done. As a gay man I can say the LGBTQI omercon persi 8 "movement" is a dangerous parody of itself. As someone who has read the King James Bible I can tell you there are so many plot holes, it's unbelievable. Take the story of Job. If a grandfather asks their son to kill it's grandson to prove their love, only at that last moment to say "Nah, just kidding. Nice to know you love me though". I wouldn't think that was a very loving grandad, in fact quite abusive. If god is there, god is not good.
These are people who don't go to church, couldn't find the Gospels if you told them where to look, being more interested in power over something that they don't like, than it's ever been about marriage.
yes many homophobics hate the church
There's a good business opportunity here, someone should build a church looking building so gay people can have a "church" wedding........can not understand what compels people to want to force themselves into a religion that clearly doesn't truly accept their sexual orientation, create your own god and religious text just like how all other religions were created, make up whatever you like, instead of Sunday being the day of rest make it the day of rimming, have leather chapless trousers and skirts as your religions clothing, but in all seriousness why can't people just live and accept that you will not be liked by everyone on this planet, be it for your sexuality, personality, skin colour, nationality ect and that if there is a god no one knows what god thinks or if god has "rules" for life, just get on with living life and when you die make your apologies or be proud you made no mistakes and accept whatever may be, the biggest problem today is no one is happy until they force everyone to be happy for them.
God does not want people to practice homosexuality.
@@StimParavane amen it's a sin an abomination.
@@StimParavane which is why I said "a religion that clearly doesn't truly accept their sexual orientation"
A lot of gays grew up in the Church and have felt love and acceptance from God as they are, despite the views from the Church. These people still consider themselves Christians and would rather stay in the Church. It's not that complicated.
@@RandomBloke007 God does not want people to practice homosexuality. If you are not engaging in anal and oral sex with people of the same gender then that's fine. You have a divine nature - cultivate it.
Even they don't support same sex marriage, people will still stick together.
Nobody can stop them, I guessed.
thank Jesus for same sex marriages
Thank God.
Which one?
@@chris6559 in this case, one that doesn't hysterically wave a rainbow flag in such a fashionable manner....
At least SOME people have standards and well done.
The god of this world is Satan. God the creator of mankind says:
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
@@1961UK what about shellfish and mixed fibres? You wouldn’t be cherry picking to suit your own nasty little prejudices would you?
@@jagaloon216 you’re the hysterical one mate, mind your own business and let people be.
Ask the Muslims community too ? What about Jewish community also ? 🙄. It’s so frustrating the constant disregard for Christian norms and values. Should I come into your house and start moving everything around because I don’t feel acquainted…
The constant failure to stand up for your religion has led to this. And you so is why we get offended if you burn and mock our sacred scriptures. It so sad to see this I’m honestly not even Christian and I don’t think this is right. We still respect the bible a great deal.
why when Gods word is the truth?
yes but God hates religion.@@aminahmad2595
But they ignore the abuse of kids -_-
Hi
Quite right too.
Thank god respect peoples life choices but we should not have our faith and believes being changed just to please a certain group, if you respect the bible you shouldn’t force your desires and wishes just to make yourselves happy
It’s not like the bible was forced on millions at gunpoint over the last few hundred years….
@@Keithemery889 now religion is a choice so if you don’t respect and like the faith’s view you don’t need to follow it find something else to believe in, considering people are non believers not sure why they want to force a religion in which they don’t believe in to change for them just so they can have everything their way
@@sapphireandstorm5874 it’s not like your religion has a history of forced conversions, colonialism and murdering homosexuals
@@Keithemery889 guess you don’t care to study other religions in the same context all religions are not perfect therefore you are not required to follow and if you say murder homosexuals then why on earth would they wish to get married under that religion also if you look back in history people were not perfect, public hanging and executions etc but we don’t do that in modern society as we have evolved. Consenting adults can live however they wish to live their lives, I just don’t find it right that we Christian’s should change our views to please
@@sapphireandstorm5874 you don’t find it right? But your religion has oppressed and murdered millions simply for their orientation, race or beliefs…
Mind Begs the Question:
If Christian Scripture prohibits homosexuality
If a Chruch/Priest approve homosexuality
Must be regarded as Church/Christian
Must not be regarded as Church/Christian?
The Bible condones owning other people as your property ( slavery). That alone is enough of a reason to discard the Bible as a source for moral guidance
its homophobia thats condemned
What the world needs is a university that educates women on how to be pious, knowledgeable, loving, kind, chaste and beautiful wives. The graduates from this prestigious university would've gotten so many marriage requests. No need for you to be licentious and attract semi possessed men at the bars in order to find love. Rather the best men would line up to get your hand after graduation, and you'd feel like a princess. Your dowry would increase. You'll have classes on Fiqh (Jurisprudence), classes on physical training so that you're fit physically. Classes on being a chef, and you'll master all the Halal dishes. On fashion and beautification for the bedroom and not in public. On kindness and raising kids etc. That's one of the ideas I have in store for you.
What about grooming underage girls? Is that an idea you have in store?
Do you have a burger stall in store BTW?
@@jagaloon216 Your society is grooming girls to become pornographers until victims like you who couldn't find a wife become addicted to it, and then you rage against the world with hearts filled with pain and diseases until you have weird profile pictures like that. You are not well, you need to be detoxed from the corruption of western values. Do not grieve, there are good people left. We will rectify this world from the polytheists and disbelievers. Men will not end up like you if I can see to it.
@@jagaloon216 The time for Islam to be universally accepted is coming thanks to the immoral extremism of the west that is showing everyone that your way of life failed you. When we get authority, and we will, then swiftly and quickly you'll be detoxed, rectified and purified. You won't see tattooed people roaming about, or paganism being allowed, or people doubting what genders they belong to. But rather being seen doing a sin in public lest your testimony is denied, will become your concern. And you won't afford having a weird profile picture that could ruin your reputation and status. You we call yourself Ibn (son of) McDougall. You've lost all dignity and honour, and we will help you restore it. Christianity failed you, but we wont.
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@@eyesodd Islamic bots these Islamic people need to stay out of christain matters
Are they against pedophilia finally as well?
Peter Ball died, but all of his and the other men’s victims still have to live with the affects of their depravity that the “ church” covered up.
Well done bishops im sick of this aplha bet lot we dont care about your feelings.
IV always said I will Neva marry and that is un negotiable
Unchecked sin ...
Bible says "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13)
Either do what the Bible says to do or admit you are a hypocrite and are just using the Bible as a menu where you choose which commandments to obey and which to ignore.
OLD LAW GOD SAID IS DEAD@@cnault3244
The Church of England exists because Henry VIII wanted a church that would grant him a divorce. Not sure how this origin gives this church any standing on the sanctity of marriage.
Way to ignore all the religious termoil in Europe. Learn some history before saying something so ignorant.
For someone who is struggling with homosexuality and looks to their faith to alleviate the anguish only for the church to capitulate to the LGBT community would do a disservice to that person. The LGBT demands respect for their lifestyle and choices but cannot give it to other people. They're also vicious towards those who don't want to be gay by saying that person hates themselves for being gay. It's the complete opposite, it's because they love themselves they are wanting to escape from the venomous lifestyle. I know because I have lived through it.
The bible is very clear, homosexuals are welcome, but you must not practice homosexuality. So, how can God possibly bless such a thing. It's like choosing only to follow bits of the bible, which is not the word of Yashua. It's that simple. I'm sorry.
@@bullypete22 Do you eat shellfish? Pork? Wear mixed fabrics? Literally other things lividicus said.
its homophobics who need to struggle with their sin, as the homophobics demand respect for their demonic wicked lifestyle and choices but cannot give it to other people. They're also vicious towards those who don't want to be uneducated or homophobic by saying that person hates themselves for being a bigot. It's the complete opposite, it's because they love themselves they are wanting to escape from the venomous homophobic lifestyle. I know because I have lived through it more so.
@@bullypete22 no the bible is very clear, homophobics are welcome, but you must not practice homophobia to make satan pleased. So, how can God possibly bless such a thing. It's like choosing only to follow bits of the bible, which is not the word of Yashua. It's that simple. I'm sorry.
Homophobics make lies up on these things@@silver4831
They are only doing the devil's work
No there not how they harming you
@@declangaming24 because the devil's want our children
@@lastcosmic your opinion but I'm bisexual but am I doing the devil work becuase I like both genders?
@@declangaming24 Choose the opposite sex, that's what God wants for you.
@@aw-resistance9968 I like both men and female
ANY LAWS OPPOSITE OF WHAT GOD SAYS IS A SIN! CASE DISMISSED!
Bible says "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13)
Either do what the Bible says to do or admit you are a hypocrite and are just using the Bible as a menu where you choose which commandments to obey and which to ignore.
thats homophobics stuffed
@@cnault3244 OLD LAW God said is dead
Hooray, they are following the bible !
Up next they will announce that slavery is OK.
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Nothing wrong with it helped civilise the uncivilised !
@@Chris1553 So you would have no problem if I made you my slave under the rules in the Bible.
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I would never have been a slave, I'm from Great Britain and we were the greatest country in he world , unfortunately not now !
@@Chris1553 So you say that there is nothing wrong with slavery but that you wouldn't accept being a slave. What a hypocrite you are.
Btw Britains were able to own slaves until the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833.
The middle path is to also end celibacy, ban fornication, allow polygamy and not allow women marrying off themselves without a guardian (like her father). And making sure her consent for marriage is there, that she is not married off to anyone she doesn't want to marry. And lowering the age of marriage in order to protect the chastity of the new generations that are coming up. Because why allow young boys and girls to have boyfriends and girlfriends and fornicate, but if they wanted to get married, then the laws of shaytan (western man made laws) forbid the path to purity for them? Similar to how shaytan forbade eating cattle for the pagans. If your kids are at the age of seeking the opposite gender, then tell them that if you want to taste the opposite gender, then you can marry, if not, then wait. That's how you protect them from Zina.
A blessing void of a full sacramental embrace is a stifled blessing. Can we truly declare this Godly? No, the answer is simply NO. God’s love is wholeheartedly unconditional and the grace imparted through the sacrament of marriage is unconditional, a gift to all members of the baptized Body of Christ regardless of sexual orientation. Why does the Church of England impose boundaries on God’s love???
My argument is that the youth that are allowed to fornicate, should demand that they are allowed to get married. If the lgbt people say: _"Marriage is just a piece of paper."_ Then the youth should argue by saying: _"If you are teaching us how to use contraceptions, and how to have boyfriends and girlfriends on the movies, and how to fornicate is equal with love etc, then why are we not allowed to get married while the lgbt are?"_
If they say: _"You are too young."_ Then say: _"Too young for what?"_
You see how the polytheists and criminal disbelievers of the west allow the path to the Fire for you, but deny the path of purity and Paradise for you?
Growing up as a youth in the west, is more riskier for a person to be among the inhabitants of the Fire after this life, because you are being taught the sins that leads to it as your way of life.
So how come you are always demonstrating for causes that are sinful but not for preserving your chastity? There's no one left protecting righteousness among you anymore.
The Word of God is evident in its view of homosexuality. The most commonly quoted Bible verses are Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, which state that it is an abomination for a man to lie with another man as he would with a woman. In Romans 1:26-27, Apostle Paul says that homosexuality is contrary to God's natural order and results from rejecting God.
As a Muslim I am happy to hear that. I don't understand why gay person wants to be priest or marry in church if they don't accept the same religion commandment about them. I am not against their choices but why stick it in our(Muslim, Jews, Christian) face. Make your own religion and if it has good perks I may join you. 😅😅
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Leviticus 18:22 ESV
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 ESV
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
@Follow the howl so it is ok to go against your scripture?
@Follow the howl hhmm. You win, sodomizing is ok with you so be it but don't step on the religious scripture to justify your choices. Jesus died for your sins so why bother about right or wrong 🤣🤣🤣
I don't know why a homosexual listens to any homophobic
the bible was written by some dude and people still live by it to this day cringe
beliefs should help people, not create rules to manipulate people
Jayne ozanne is a sociopath, that person is horrible
"Fear GOD not man"...
What is Written is Written...
What a Shame...
for lack of Knowledge of the Holy Bible...
God Bless @ Amen
Catholic church welcomes yall home whenever your ready
How anyone could be a Catholic with all the pedophile cover ups is beyond me.
Was this Church not created under the idea that I can commit Adultery. So it makes sense that sin will be accepted.
Homosexuals and Lesbians do not follow the teachings of the Bible , so why on earth would they expect to be blessed within the house of God ?? Just seems a really odd request. The Church should NOT be forced to go against the Bible, that's totally wrong.
Homophobics with pride do not follow the teachings of the Bible , so why on earth would they expect to be blessed within the house of God ?? Just seems a really odd request. The Church should NOT be forced to go against the Bible, that's totally wrong.
I agree with them. Everything seems to be gay themed it's not on.
This world is being destroyed .it's not what man wants its what the almighty wants.😢
None of the Abrahamic religions condone this so why the vehement focus on Christianity, as if we should just roll over
1st Corinthians 6:9 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
nowt about LGBT there then
Great!!!!! Zero compromise!!!! Let the Alphabet community form their own church & STOP imposing their believes on other BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCHES!!!!!!
why can't u in the satanic alphabet community make ur own church (RSHT-PLUS......Racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic plus) & STOP imposing their believes on other BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCHES!!!!!!
Cottrell and Mullally - God sees you. Ichabod
Praise Jesus on same sex marriages
Crusade to The Church of England. Burn those devil in angel cloak.
Where in the Bible does it say men can't marry men or women can't marry women? It doesn't.
It does men were never meant to marry men
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But it doesn't. It literally doesn't.
@@K.R.O1875 The amount of twisting of the same boring old bible verses are fascinating on this thread. 😂
The best way to control a person is to indoctrinate them into religion.
Hi K.
Actually, yes it does. And not only does it say it once, it says it several times.
First, God gave the model for marriage - one man, one woman.
Then, just for clarity, He condemned single sex union to be immoral, punishable by death.
He then reiterated this point several times throughout His manifesto, which we Christians call the Bible.
To be sure that there was no confusion about the matter when He sent His Son to act as our Messiah, the point was restated again, numerous times throughout the Greek Scriptures, which some refer to as the New Testament.
This avoided the problem of allowing some to differentiate between the Hebrew Scriptures and the Greek Scriptures (or Old and New Testaments).
Finally, He included the most important statement of all, just to provide the cherry on top of the cake.
"I AM Jehovah, I have not changed".
Hope this helps. If you are in ANY doubt, or require further clarification please feel free to refer to your Bible.
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Imagine saying all that tripe and still not giving a single verse prohibiting same sex marriage.
Brokeback mountain!!🤣🤣🤣
Good
The bible clearly says god is not cool with it
Do go changing the rules to fit you, find something else to believe in
Blessings 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sick people
People are always loud .until there faced with the truth .god destroyed sodom and gomorrah for this reason i dont think it will be long till judgement comes we need to repent god loves you all but he doesnt love your sin .wake up before its to late im saying this with genuine care
Excellent news ❤️
Bible says "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13)
Either do what the Bible says to do or admit you are a hypocrite and are just using the Bible as a menu where you choose which commandments to obey and which to ignore.
It's a heresy to bless sin. Your damning everyone that follows the church.
so never bless homophobia
Will the same couples have children
some do
Give them an inch and they want an acre.
all homophobics do
Jesus loves you repent
1:35 but god does not approve of these relationships.
yes he doesn't like homophobics
They are essentially become cult.
yes the homophobic cult
The time of false prophecy is ahead for allowing this
homophobics are the false prophecy
The church is in the right in the gay couples in the wrong
no the homophobics are wrong
@@pastorbrithe church is in the right
@@nightwolf5831 except the homophobic church's
It's a step forward and progress but as they said it isn't equality. Hopefully as we learn to understand one another we can overcome such hurdles like this and make our society a happier better place, without hate and negativity. We don't have to agree with one another but we should respect each other and treat one another with dignity and respect we would want to be shown ourselves.
Read the bible God does not agree with same sex marriage its a sin an abomination.
@@GloryToYAH4Ever it also says to be kind, charitable and love one another. Calling someone an abomination is the very opposite.... that one is even in the 10 commandments isn't it?
The bible Is clear about homosexuality, there is absolutely no place for it in a church..
@@KrisRoberts114 yeah well they bible was written 130 years after Christ died... by a committee of men..in a different country try..... who used aural stories to create the bible..... so you have a verbal story headed down through a few generations..... at a time when they still believed slavery was fine and that feeding lions live human prisoners was entertaining..... since then it has been translated through god only knows how many languages so you can add in Chinese whispers effect to that..... you know the key phrase .... LOST IN TRANSLATION. Well there is a reason for that. Oh yeah and as far as I can tell only the 10 commandments ts were written by God himself..... and is the sole connecting evidence between christianity, Judaism and Islam. Everything else was written by man..... man is not perfect, man makes mistakes therefor his stories and writings are imperfect as such the bible is not a perfect representation and should be used as a guide but not law.... and I view that to be the same for EVERY religious book not just the bible. If we all stuck to the basic 10 comment ent principles the world would be a far better place.i think God has got other thi gs to worry about than if 2 people want to dedicate their lives to the betterment of another, to support them through hardships and joy. To make such a promise should not be taken lightly and every time a couple choose to dedicate themselves to one another forsaking all others it should be celebrated for the monumentous vow that is. Divorce is considered a sin but half the world have gotten a divorce.... or how about the wearing of synthetic threads..... sounds like someone is on a power trip and wanted to assert dominance over trade at the time so imposed the rule to make money.... oh yeah isnt that a sin.... greed and hate?
@@601salsa who told you it was verbal have you never heard of the Dead Sea scrolls and the greek septuagint also do you think the Roman's who were notorious for documenting everything would mistake the fact jesus was crucified, the fact the new testament was completed a century after means nothing, do we know history from a century ago.. yes hitler and the world wars likely never happened I mean who can be sure it was roughly a century ago now soooooo!!🤦♂️
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You can stick your blessings thank you. How dare you treat same sex couples as 2nd class citizens. Your apology does not excuse or diminish your sacrilegious prejudice. Is it any wonder Christianity and church numbers are in such sharp decline in the Western world! So be it. Jesus is never more beautiful than when left untouched by the Church.
Read the bible God does not agree with same sex marriage its a sin an abomination. Marriage is a religious union the church is not a stage to make you self feel good??
@@GloryToYAH4Ever It is just a matter of time. You wait and see. As for your interpretation of the Bible, you're welcome to it.
@@suchisthismystery2814 Church numbers are In steep decline because of nonsense like this creeping in constantly, you either abide by scripture or you dont, trying to alter it to your whim is a huge sin
@@KrisRoberts114 You can tell yourself that if you want! Telling yourself such falsehoods might make you feel.better but it won't change the fact of the matter. As for "abiding by scripture", as interpreted by who exactly? You? 😂
@@suchisthismystery2814 can you tell me any scripture that says sex between same sex or with animals is ok?
Just get married in Scotland instead? Leave England in the stone ages.
God does not want people to practice homosexuality.
@@StimParavane He sounds like a boring guy.
@@thomastallis7245 Anal and oral sex with people of the same gender do not lead to a divine union and pure states of mind. In fact the opposite.
Yeah cos Scotland is really the place to be 😂 infamous for its drug addled population, sturgeon is a wanker and sell out to the WEF.
@@thomastallis7245 your a troll and Anti-Religious
Ok so people today have to suffers because some guys in a desert 1000s of years ago decided to make up some stuff and write it in a book
HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN SODOMA AND GOMORA?
Christianity has become a joke